4. The commercial or capitalized value, on certain assumptions based

on present conditions, and also on possible future conditions

which might be involved in a renewal of the City contract, which

was to expire within two years.

That these determinations of value, from different points of view, had

an influence in moulding the opinion of the individual appraisers, there

can be little doubt; yet it is probably equally true that in no case was

like weight attached to the several items or bases of valuation.

Nevertheless, in the final valuation, the consensus of opinion as to the

value of the property, as a whole, was remarkably close, the extreme

variations in opinion being approximately 8%, more, or less, than the

final appraised valuation.

Attention should also be called to the necessity, in any valuation by

capitalization of income, such as that outlined by Mr. Riggs and used by

Professor Adams in the U. S. Government Valuation of Railroads,[46] of

determining whether the plant or property is in what might be termed an

over-built, normally developed, or under-built condition; in short,

whether the investing public has correctly gauged its momentary physical

condition with reference to its bearing on the rates, and whether the

earnings are in fact inadequate, commensurate with the service rendered,

or excessive. In the long run, due weight will be given to these facts;

in a brief period, they may be incorrectly gauged. In water-works

properties, unfortunately, there is rarely, if ever, a market price of

the securities which can be said to be credible or significant in

valuation. Therefore, in the valuation of water-works properties, it is

the more important that the appraisers should weigh carefully the

present character of the service furnished and the momentary adequacy or

inadequacy of the rates as predicated on such service, on the needs of

the community, and the existing standards of the day, if full justice is

to be done.

In conclusion, the writer reiterates his statement, that he has taken

issue with the author in no carping spirit of criticism, but with a

recognition of the difficulty and complexity of the work of appraisal,

and the conviction that engineers are under a moral obligation to do an

educational work in pointedly calling attention to the fact that the

going, or going concern, value, of a public service corporation's

property is not an intangible value representing an unearned increment,

but a very real and substantial item of cost in the property as a whole.

While the difficulty may be met by placing going value, as suggested by

the writer, in a middle class between physical plant and intangible

values, the placing of it in the same class with franchise and other

intangible elements of value, as suggested by the author, may, in the

judgment of the writer, do a serious injury to corporations, in failing

to give expression, in such a manner as shall be clearly within the

grasp of the popular mind, to the fundamental idea of the cost of

developing going value. While the writer has no personal interest in the

matter, on one side or the other, having served both municipality and

corporation in water-works valuations, he feels, nevertheless, that

engineers can do a genuine service, alike to the public and to the

public service corporation, in laying stress on the fundamental elements

of cost and value, and particularly those on which rates should be

predicated, in public service corporation property valuation and rating.

CHARLES HANSEL, M. AM. SOC. C. E.—So much has been said on the subject

of valuation of public utilities that, although the speaker has thought

on the subject for ten years, and has done considerable valuation of

railroad properties, he finds that he is considerably confused, for the

reason that the discussions seem to cover the whole field of

engineering, accounting, taxation, and economics; therefore he suggests

that, in order to get down to a basis of usefulness, a special committee

should be appointed to take this question under consideration.

The speaker had the honor of being associated with the Michigan

Commission, as a member of the Board of Review. Professor M. E. Cooley

was selected by the State of Michigan to take charge of the work of

organization, and Mr. Riggs was the engineer who organized the office

and field forces. Both these gentlemen were eminently successful in that

very difficult work. Mr. Cooley did this Board the honor of saying that

there were so many problems coming up in actually carrying out the work

(aside from the theories of taxation, rate-making, accounting, and

several other things, which could be found more readily in the Auditor's

office than in the Engineer's), that he had asked for the appointment of

this Board of Review, to sit as a Court, and to pass on the many complex

questions arising from day to day; and he had the satisfaction of coming

to the Board every day and saying: "Well, now here is a condition, and

how will I handle it?" Of course, actually, he knew more about it than

the Board, but he was kind enough to say that he would ask for the

Board's opinion. That Board adjudicated all these various questions to

the best of its ability, and the speaker has the satisfaction of knowing

that the valuation has stood in the Federal Courts. The subjects are so

fugitive and so illusive that very much depends on the point of view.

The speaker is now engaged in the actual task of trying to place a

valuation on some $300,000,000 worth of property in New Jersey,

involving the most important terminals in the United States.

The valuation of public service utilities is the most profound question

which has ever been before the Society, and it includes a great deal

which is outside of strictly engineering questions; in fact, the

discussions do not throw much light on the methods which should be

followed in making valuations.

The terminology of a subject is very important; in fact, the speaker has

found it so important that in his discussions with the Attorney-General

of New Jersey, in reference to the Railroad Tax Law, which he has been

asked to re-draft, that draft will be accompanied by a glossary, so that

the meaning of certain terms used in that particular Act will be clear.

In this New Jersey work some eighty-seven engineers and assistants are

employed, and for their guidance the speaker has prepared thirty-five

pages of very carefully considered instructions. These instructions are

accompanied by blue prints showing exactly how all field notes must be

recorded, with diagrams of trusses, culverts, and the like, and all the

elements of railroad construction.

The Tax Law of New Jersey states that, first, the true value of the real

estate shall be ascertained; second, the true value of the tangible

personal property; and the first law of 1884 stated: "and third, the

value of the franchise"; but somebody discovered that there was

something besides the value of the real estate, the tangible personal

property, and the franchise. They did not know what it was, but there

was something else; therefore, in the 1888 law they changed the third

division of value to read: "the remaining property, including the

franchise."

As an example of one of the difficulties of determining classification,

attention is directed to the term, Real Estate, which is broadly, but

seldom accurately, understood.

The Interstate Commerce Commission is the highest tribunal in the land,

in the matter of railroad accounting, but it affords no help in many

important elements of value; for instance, under the Interstate Commerce

Commission, real estate includes only such real estate (land) as is not

required for railroad purposes. All land actually used for railroad

purposes is classified under "Right of Way and Station Grounds."

When the engineers on the New Jersey valuation were sent into the field,

it was necessary to specify exactly what elements must be described as

real estate, and what as tangible personal property. The division line

had to be defined accurately for the reason that all personal property

is assessed permanently to the State, while, in the case of real estate,

the State receives the taxes on a strip not exceeding 100 ft. in width,

and the tax on all property used for railroad purposes outside this

strip reverts to the taxing district wherein it is found.

The vexatious question as to whether machinery is to be considered as

real estate or personal property was settled by the New Jersey Law,

which says that tangible personal property shall include all machinery;

but it left unsettled the question: what is machinery? After careful

consideration, real estate was divided into 74 classes, and all other

tangible elements were classified as personal property. Some of the

items of real estate are: ash-handling machinery and the like, chimneys,

cisterns, conveyors, dams, locks, lock machinery, electric wiring,

piping, heating, interlocking, signaling, pavements, reservoirs, shop

fittings, tanks, telegraph lines, track, track scales, transfer tables,

water-works, etc., etc. Generally speaking, all items of a fixed

character were included in the 74 divisions of real estate.

The difficulties of determining all the elements of real estate are

mentioned simply to call attention to what at first glance seems quite

simple, but on close examination is found to have great complexities.

The question of useful life depreciation, direct and indirect, due to

decrepitude or obsolescence, or both, is one of the illusive questions;

and then comes the value of the franchise.

The valuation of railroad property in New Jersey is further complicated

by the requirements of the State Tax Law, which specifies that the value

of the remaining property, including the franchise, shall be determined

after the "true value" of the real estate and tangible personal property

have been determined.

The speaker will not attempt a discussion of franchise values, as it is

a subject which requires the most profound study.

The author states that he is appalled at the speaker's misconception of

the method of determining non-physical value used by Professor Adams in

Michigan. The speaker is perfectly familiar with that method, and,

although having the greatest respect for Professor Adams' opinions, is

compelled to draw attention to two important elements of that formula

which are open to objection.

Professor Adams establishes his annuity on the depreciated value, rather

than on the cost, or the reproduction cost, which, in the speaker's

opinion, does not determine the proper annuity or reasonable fixed

charges to be deducted from net income before net surplus is

established. Bonds are generally sold at a considerable discount, and

represent the full cost plus this discount, consequently, the interest

on bonds or fixed charges will be greater than an annuity established on

cost, "reproduction cost," or "present value." Would it not more nearly

establish fixed charges or annuity, to take the cost plus discount and

commissions as the basis on which to apply the annuity rate?

While Professor Adams' formula establishes a larger net surplus for

capitalization than the method suggested by the speaker, he in effect

destroys this net surplus by charging against it all betterments

chargeable to income. It is quite clear that this gives the railroad

company a chance to absorb all net income into betterments, and thus

wipe out all net income, in which case there would be no net surplus to

capitalize, consequently, no non-physical or franchise value, and the

total value established under this plan would be less than if the

property had not been improved by the betterments—_reductio ad

absurdum_.

In reference to the question of whether or not the method of valuation

should be the same, regardless of the purpose to which the value is to

be applied, the speaker cannot agree with the author, and believes that

it is quite consistent to establish different values for different

purposes.

The completion of a large public utility, planned on such a scale as to

provide for the requirements of many years to come, utilizing but part

of its capacity, and earning less than its operating expenses and fixed

charges, with its rates of toll fixed by law, must be considered in a

different way than a well-established public utility, with business

forcing it to its utmost capacity, and with tolls not fixed by law.

There are many important elements bearing on this consideration of

value, and the purpose of the valuation should be known before

attempting to establish the value.

In New Jersey the work is complicated further by the necessity of

establishing the value of 122 separate railroad corporations, and the

assignment of all property outside the 100-ft. strip to each of the 450

taxing districts through which the 122 corporations, with their many

branches and spurs, are operating.

In order to determine the quantities and materials in the permanent way

and structures, nine engineer corps were organized, each corp consisting

of six men. With this force the center line of the main running track

was measured, and the exact distance in each taxing district recorded.

Cross-sections of the roadbed were made as often as changes in the

natural surface required, and accurate measurements and notes were made

of all structures; and, although in many cases the engineers were able

to secure the plans of the more important steel structures, the field

parties were required to obtain sufficient data to compute the tonnage

in case it was impossible to get these plans.

The field parties were also instructed to note the character of the land

and improvements adjoining railroad property, and record such other

information as was necessary for a comprehensive understanding of the

conditions attendant on the construction of a railroad in that locality.

The time allotted for the completion of the work is one year, and

although this is a comparatively short period in which to introduce a

premium system in field work, it was decided to inaugurate such a system

as would be as nearly satisfactory as possible under the conditions. A

record of each field force for each day in each month was made on

profile paper, using the horizontal lines to represent the number of

tracks, and the vertical lines to represent distance. Two horizontal

lines were allowed for single track, four for double track, and so on.

One mile was allowed for each vertical division of the paper, and, in

awarding the premium, there was taken into consideration, not only the

extent of territory covered by each field party, but much consideration

was given to the field notes, and a cash prize was awarded each month.

The results of the organization and encouragement to the field parties

are shown by the very great increase in the amount of work per man of

the field parties, which was nearly 300% during the time the parties

were in the field.

A great many questions hinging on interstate commerce, and involving

Fundamental, State, Federal, and International Law, are embraced in the

broad view of the valuation of railroad properties. The movement of

rolling stock through various States, and between the United States,

Canada, and Mexico, and the determination of the situs and domicile of

floating equipment, are subjects which, not only require considerable

knowledge of railroad operation, but involve many questions not clearly

determined by the Courts.

The subject is of such great importance that steps should be taken to

formulate methods of procedure, and, at the Annual Meeting of the

Society, the speaker will offer a resolution requesting the appointment

of a Special Committee to determine the proper methods to be used in the

valuation of public utilities.

J. MARTIN SCHREIBER, M. AM. SOC. C. E.—Engineers and those generally

interested in the valuation of public service properties are fortunate

in having the valuable information embodied in this paper. Although

there are some points on which the speaker differs with the author, the

following remarks are only offered in order to bring out, from

experience, some further phases of the subject, rather than as an

attempt to criticize.

A great deal is heard about the exact cost of reproduction, also

arguments in reference to the proper allowance for contingencies,

probably only involving a small percentage. The speaker questions the

propriety of advocating the exact cost figures. The carefully checked

cost figures of reliable contractors, with first-class engineering

organizations, submitting proposals on the same construction, are often

found to vary from 5 to 15% from the total cost. Different organizations

will sometimes be the cause of figures varying 5% or more, depending on

the efficiency and experience of the corps. A clever purchasing agent

will reduce an apparently precise estimate on equipment or supplies as

much as 10%; on the other hand, the condition of the market may be such

that the actual price paid exceeds the estimate by the same percentage.

Engineers who are responsible for estimating on, and the execution of,

construction projects generally add more than 10% for contingencies, as

it is practically impossible to anticipate them, and a precise estimate

is almost certain to fall short. It is unfortunate that it is almost

impossible to sustain contingency figures on the witness stand; for that

reason, probably, it would be more satisfactory to the lay mind, and to

the various courts, boards, etc., which are required to pass on

valuations, and do not thoroughly understand the technicalities of the

situation, if engineers would drop the contingency item and modify the

quantities or the unit prices.

If it is possible to estimate the exact cost of reproduction, certainly

considerable variation may be expected from independent sources in

computing depreciation and present values. Yet there are reputable

engineers who would have one believe (assuming that they know the cost

of reproduction) that by a simple field inspection they are able to

compute the exact present value.

Some time ago, the speaker heard an expert testify in the interest of a

certain city, for tax purposes, with reference to the value of a piece

of street-railway track. He first stated the valuation for reproduction,

and then the definite present value. The latter was greatly in excess of

the actual value. The expert, who was an engineer of considerable

standing, on cross-examination, did not know the height of rail from top

of head to bottom of groove, either at the joint or any other part in

its length; he did not know the exact depth of flange of the car wheels

which operated over that track, the headway, or the exact weight of the

cars used. He had assumed the condition of the ties, and that the track

was ballasted. Finally, he was compelled to admit that his determination

of the depreciation, by simply a field inspection, was a very rough

approximation. Now, it is not in every case in the past that a

corporation attorney, even with engineering assistance, has been able to

point out unfair testimony. Many times the speaker has heard incompetent

testimony admitted, on the general principle that the witness was an

engineer of note, even though his record had been made in other

specialities. Too much stress cannot be put on this phase of the

subject, and the speaker is glad that the author has mentioned the fact

that the personnel of those doing appraisal work should be of the

highest order. In the past it is probable that the failure to

discriminate properly in accepting incompetent testimony (not to mention

prejudiced testimony) was automatic, and this is the most important

reason for much of the hostility of officials of public service

properties toward all forms of investigation, as the author mentions.

Company officials know that they are often compelled to employ and train

specialists to furnish, within fairly accurate limits, the very

information which is being sought, and naturally they are skeptical

about the data presented by those who, though not intimate with the

property, purport to give exact cost figures. Any one who is able to

point out a consistent method whereby these exact figures may be

obtained surely will obtain credit for a valuable contribution toward

the solution of the complex subject of valuation.

Referring to the valuation of the property of the Detroit United

Railroads, mentioned in the paper, the Director of Appraisals for the

city estimated that the cost of the complete appraisal of the property,

which includes about 220 miles of single track, would be from $3,000 to

$4,000. Approximately, $25,000 has already been spent, not including the

expense sustained by the company, which furnished a large proportion of

the information.

Probably correct present value estimates which include depreciation may

not be even fairly approximated without intimate knowledge of the

particular property, and this should embody operation, policy of

management, past performance, study of historical cost (as far as the

records will permit), estimated cost of construction, and actual cost of

maintenance. The life of a piece of track or equipment, disregarding

obsolescence and extraordinaries, generally depends on the type and

details of construction, the service it has done, and the service that

will be required of it. Renewals should be made when the cost of repairs

reaches a certain figure, other conditions being favorable. It is a fact

that able engineers, intimately acquainted with the case at issue, and

employed on the same property, often have conflicting ideas in reference

to the life of track or equipment, one recommending immediate renewal

and another advocating longer operation.

The speaker does not intend to argue against the possibility of placing

fairly accurate values on reproduction or present value, but wishes to

bring out the fact that it is not as simple as the lay mind is often led

to believe. Further than that, he is of the opinion that the following

is essential for economical and satisfactory valuations for all

concerned:

(1) There should be co-operation of the appraisers with the public

service property officials, including operators, engineers, and their

records.

(2) Present values should be determined by:

(_a_) Cost of reproduction,

(_b_) Mortality tables,

(_c_) Data of performance,

(_d_) Field examination.

(3) The organization for the appraisal work should be of sufficient

scope, and should be allowed the time and funds which the project

reasonably requires.

(4) The appraisers should be carefully selected, the personnel including

men who have had wide experience in the particular class of operation;

and specialists should be obtained if necessary.

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