XXIV. SOCIETIES AND PUBLIC BANQUETS

The most unique experience in my life has been the dinners given

to me by the Montauk Club of Brooklyn on my birthday. The Montauk

is a social club of high standing, whose members are of professional

and business life and different political and religious faiths.

Thirty years ago Mr. Charles A. Moore was president of the club.

He was a prominent manufacturer and a gentleman of wide influence

in political and social circles. Mr. McKinley offered him the

position of secretary of the navy, which Mr. Moore declined. He

came to me one day with a committee from the club, and said:

"The Montauk wishes to celebrate your birthday. We know that it

is on the 23d of April, and that you have two distinguished

colleagues who also have the 23d as their birthday--Shakespeare

and St. George. We do not care to include them, but desire only

to celebrate yours."

The club has continued these celebrations for thirty years by

an annual dinner. The ceremonial of the occasion is a reception,

then dinner, and, after an introduction by the president, a speech

by myself. To make a new speech every year which will be of

interest to those present and those who read it, is not easy.

These festivities had a fortunate beginning. In thinking over

what I should talk about at the first dinner, I decided to get

some fun out of the municipality of Brooklyn by a picturesque

description of its municipal conditions. It was charged in the

newspapers that there had been serious graft in some public

improvements which had been condoned by the authorities and excused

by an act of the legislature. It had also been charged that the

Common Council had been giving away valuable franchises to their

favorites. Of course, this presented a fine field of contrast

between ancient and modern times. In ancient times grateful

citizens erected statues to eminent men who had deserved well of

their country in military or civic life, but Brooklyn had improved

upon the ancient model through the grant of public utilities.

The speech caused a riot after the dinner as to its propriety,

many taking the ground that it was a criticism, and, therefore,

inappropriate to the occasion. However, the affair illustrated

a common experience of mine that unexpected results will sometimes

flow from a bit of humor, if the humor has concealed in it a stick

of dynamite.

The Brooklyn pulpit, which is the most progressive in the world,

took the matter up and aroused public discussion on municipal

affairs. The result was the formation of a committee of one hundred

citizens to investigate municipal conditions. They found that

while the mayor and some other officials were high-toned and

admirable officers, yet the general administration of the city

government had in the course of years become so bad that there

should be a general reformation. The reform movement was successful;

it spread over to New York and there again succeeded, and the

movement for municipal reform became general in the country.

The next anniversary dinner attracted an audience larger than

the capacity of the club, and every one of the thirty has been

an eminent success. For many years the affair has received wide

publicity in the United States, and has sometimes been reported

in foreign newspapers. I remember being in London with the late

Lieutenant-Governor Woodruff, when we saw these head-lines at

a news-stand on the Strand: "Speech by Chauncey Depew at his

birthday dinner at the Montauk Club, Brooklyn." During this nearly

third of a century the membership of the club has changed, sons

having succeeded fathers and new members have been admitted, but

the celebration seems to grow in interest.

During the last fourteen years the president of the club has been

Mr. William H. English. He has done so much for the organization

in every way that the members would like to have him as their

executive officer for life. Mr. English is a splendid type of

the American who is eminently successful in his chosen career,

and yet has outside interest for the benefit of the public. Modest

to a degree and avoiding publicity, he nevertheless is the motive

power of many movements progressive and charitable.

Twenty-four years ago a company of public-spirited women in the

city of Des Moines, Iowa, organized a club. They named it after

me. For nearly a quarter of a century it has been an important

factor in the civic life of Des Moines. It has with courage,

intelligence, and independence done excellent work. At the time

of its organization there were few if any such organizations in

the country, and it may claim the position of pioneer in women's

activity in public affairs.

Happily free from the internal difficulties and disputes which so

often wreck voluntary associations, the Chauncey Depew Club is

stronger than ever. It looks forward with confidence to a successful

celebration of its quarter of a century.

I have never been able to visit the club, but have had with it

frequent and most agreeable correspondence. It always remembers

my birthday in the most gratifying way. I am grateful to its

members for bestowing upon me one of the most pleasurable compliments

of my life.

A public dinner is a fine form of testimonial. I have had many

in my life, celebrating other things than my birthday. One of

the most notable was given me by the citizens of Chicago in

recognition of my efforts to make their great Columbian exhibition

a success. Justice John M. Harlan presided, and distinguished

men were present from different parts of the country and representing

great interests. Probably the speech which excited the most

comment was a radical attack of Andrew Carnegie on the government

of Great Britain, in submitting to the authority of a king or a

queen. Canada was represented by some of the high officials of

that self-governing colony. The Canadians are more loyal to the

English form of government than are the English themselves. My

peppery Scotch friend aroused a Canadian official, who returned

his assault with vigor and interest.

It is a very valuable experience for an American to attend the

annual banquet of the American Chamber of Commerce in Paris.

The French Government recognizes the affair by having a company

of their most picturesquely uniformed soldiers standing guard both

inside and outside the hall. The highest officials of the French

Government always attend and make speeches. The American Ambassador

replies in a speech partly in English, and, if he is sufficiently

equipped, partly in French. General Horace Porter and Henry White

were equally happy both in their native language and in that of

the French. The French statesmen, however, were so fond of

Myron T. Herrick that they apparently not only grasped his cordiality

but understood perfectly his eloquence. The honor has several

times been assigned to me of making the American speech in

unadulterated American. The French may not have understood, but

with their quick apprehension the applause or laughter of the

Americans was instantly succeeded by equal manifestations on

the part of the French.

Among the many things which we have inherited from our English

ancestry are public dinners and after-dinner speeches. The public

dinner is of importance in Great Britain and utilized for every

occasion. It is to the government the platform where the ministers

can lay frankly before the country matters which they could not

develop in the House of Commons. Through the dinner speech they

open the way and arouse public attention for measures which they

intend to propose to Parliament, and in this way bring the pressure

of public opinion to their support.

In the same way every guild and trade have their festive functions

with serious purpose, and so have religious, philanthropic, economic,

and sociological movements. We have gone quite far in this

direction, but have not perfected the system as they have on the

other side. I have been making after-dinner speeches for sixty

years to all sorts and conditions of people, and on almost every

conceivable subject. I have found these occasions of great value

because under the good-fellowship of the occasion an unpopular

truth can be sugar-coated with humor and received with applause,

while in the processes of digestion the next day it is working with

the audience and through the press in the way the pill was intended.

A popular audience will forgive almost anything with which they

do not agree, if the humorous way in which it is put tickles

their risibilities.

Mr. Gladstone was very fine at the lord mayor's dinner at Guild Hall,

where the prime minister develops his policies. So it was with

Lord Salisbury and Balfour, but the prince of after-dinner speakers

in England is Lord Rosebery. He has the humor, the wit, and the

artistic touch which fascinates and enraptures his audience.

I have met in our country all the men of my time who have won fame

in this branch of public address. The most remarkable in

effectiveness and inspiration was Henry Ward Beecher. A banquet

was always a success if it could have among its speakers

William M. Evarts, Joseph H. Choate, James S. Brady, Judge John R. Brady,

General Horace Porter, or Robert G. Ingersoll.

After General Grant settled in New York he was frequently a guest

at public dinners and always produced an impression by simple,

direct, and effective oratory.

General Sherman, on the other hand, was an orator as well as a

fighter. He never seemed to be prepared, but out of the occasion

would give soldierly, graphic, and picturesque presentations of

thought and description.

Not to have heard on these occasions Robert G. Ingersoll was to

have missed being for the evening under the spell of a magician.

I have been frequently asked if I could remember occasions of this

kind which were of more than ordinary interest.

After-dinner oratory, while most attractive at the time, is

evanescent, but some incidents are interesting in memory. At

the time of Queen Victoria's jubilee I was present where a

representative of Canada was called upon for a speech. With the

exception of the Canadian and myself the hosts and guests were

all English. My Canadian friend enlarged upon the wonders of his

country. A statement of its marvels did not seem sufficient for

him unless it was augmented by comparisons with other countries

to the glory of Canada, and so he compared Canada with the

United States. Canada had better and more enduring institutions,

she had a more virile, intelligent, and progressive population,

and she had protected herself, as the United States did not,

against undesirable immigration, and in everything which constituted

an up-to-date, progressive, healthy, and hopeful commonwealth she

was far in advance of the United States.

I was called upon immediately afterwards and said I would agree

with the distinguished gentleman from Canada that in one thing

at least Canada was superior to the United States, and it was

that she had far more land, but it was mostly ice. I regret to

remember that my Canadian friend lost his temper.

One of the historical dinners of New York, which no one will forget

who was there, was just after the close of the Civil War, or, as

my dear old friend, Colonel Watterson, called it, "The War between

the States." The principal guests were General Sherman and

Henry W. Grady of Atlanta, Ga. General Sherman, in his speech,

described the triumphant return of the Union Army to Washington,

its review by the President, and then its officers and men returning

to private life and resuming their activities and industries as

citizens. It was a word-picture of wonderful and startling

picturesqueness and power and stirred an audience, composed

largely of veterans who had been participants both in the battles

and in the parades, to the highest degree of enthusiasm. Mr. Grady

followed. He was a young man with rare oratorical gifts. He

described the return of the Confederate soldiers to their homes

after the surrender at Appomattox. They had been four years

fighting and marching. They were ragged and poor. They returned

to homes and farms, many of which had been devastated. They had

no capital, and rarely animals or farming utensils necessary to

begin again. But with superb courage, not only on their own part

but with the assistance of their wives, sisters, and daughters,

they made the desert land flourish and resurrected the country.

This remarkable description of Grady, which I only outline, came

as a counterpart to the triumphant epic of General Sherman. The

effect was electric, and beyond almost any that have ever occurred

in New York or anywhere, and Grady sprang into international fame.

Joseph H. Choate was a most dangerous fellow speaker to his

associates who spoke before him. I had with him many encounters

during fifty years, and many times enjoyed being the sufferer by

his wit and humor. On one occasion Choate won the honors of the

evening by an unexpected attack. There is a village in western

New York which is named after me. The enterprising inhabitants,

boring for what might be under the surface of their ground,

discovered natural gas. According to American fashion, they

immediately organized a company and issued a prospectus for the

sale of the stock. The prospectus fell into the hands of Mr. Choate.

With great glee he read it and then with emphasis the name of

the company: "The Depew Natural Gas Company, Limited," and waving

the prospectus at me shouted: "Why limited?"

There have been two occasions in Mr. Choate's after-dinner speeches

much commented upon both in this country and abroad. As I was

present on both evenings, it seems the facts ought to be accurately

stated. The annual dinner of the "Friendly Sons of St. Patrick"

occurred during one of the years when the Home Rule question was

most acute in England and actively discussed here. At the same

time our Irish fellow citizens, with their talent for public life,

had captured all the offices in New York City. They had the mayor,

the majority of the Board of Aldermen, and a large majority of

the judges. When Mr. Choate spoke he took up the Home Rule

question, and, without indicating his own views, said substantially:

"We Yankees used to be able to govern ourselves, but you Irish

have come here and taken the government away from us. You have

our entire city administration in your hands, and you do with us

as you like. We are deprived of Home Rule. Now what you are

clamoring for both at home and abroad is Home Rule for Ireland.

With such demonstrated ability in capturing the greatest city on

the western continent, and one of the greatest in the world, why

don't you go back to Ireland and make, as you would, Home Rule

there a success?"

I was called a few minutes afterwards to a conference of the

leading Irishmen present. I was an honorary member of that society,

and they were in a high state of indignation. The more radical

thought that Mr. Choate's speech should be resented at once.

However, those who appreciated its humor averted hostile action,

but Mr. Choate was never invited to an Irish banquet again.

The second historical occasion was when the Scotch honored their

patron Saint, St. Andrew. The attendance was greater than ever

before, and the interest more intense because the Earl of Aberdeen

was present. The earl was at that time Governor-General of Canada,

but to the Scotchmen he was much more than that, because he was

the chief of the Clan Gordon. The earl came to the dinner in full

Highland costume. Lady Aberdeen and the ladies of the vice-regal

court were in the gallery. I sat next to the earl and Choate sat

next to me. Choate said: "Chauncey, are Aberdeen's legs bare?"

I looked under the table-cloth and discovered that they were

naturally so because of his costume. I answered: "Choate, they are."

I thought nothing of it until Choate began his speech, in which

he said: "I was not fully informed by the committee of the

importance of the occasion. I did not know that the Earl of Aberdeen

was to be here as a guest of honor. I was especially and

unfortunately ignorant that he was coming in the full panoply of

his great office as chief of Clan Gordon. If I had known that

I would have left my trousers at home."

Aberdeen enjoyed it, the ladies in the gallery were amused, but

the Scotch were mad, and Choate lost invitations to future Scotch dinners.

Few appreciate the lure of the metropolis. It attracts the

successful to win greater success with its larger opportunities.

It has resistless charm with the ambitious and the enterprising.

New York, with its suburbs, which are really a part of itself,

is the largest city in the world. It is the only true cosmopolitan

one. It has more Irish than any city in Ireland, more Germans

and Italians than any except the largest cities in Germany or

Italy. It has more Southerners than are gathered in any place

in any Southern State, and the same is true of Westerners and

those from the Pacific coast and New England, except in Chicago,

San Francisco, or Boston. There is also a large contingent from

the West Indies, South America, and Canada.

The people who make up the guests at a great dinner are the

survival of the fittest of these various settlers in New York.

While thousands fail and go back home or drop by the way, these

men have made their way by superior ability, foresight, and

adaptability through the fierce competitions of the great city.

They are unusually keen-witted and alert. For the evening of

the banquet they leave behind their business and its cares and

are bent on being entertained, amused, and instructed. They are

a most catholic audience, broad-minded, hospitable, and friendly

to ideas whether they are in accord with them or not, providing

they are well presented. There is one thing they will not submit

to, and that is being bored.

These functions are usually over by midnight, and rarely last

so long; while out in the country and in other towns, it is no

unusual thing to have a dinner with speeches run along until

the early hours of the next morning. While public men, politicians,

and aspiring orators seek their opportunities upon this platform

in New York, few succeed and many fail. It is difficult for a

stranger to grasp the situation and adapt himself at once to its

atmosphere. I have narrated in preceding pages some remarkable

successes, and will give a few instances of very able and

distinguished men who lost touch of their audiences.

One of the ablest men in the Senate was Senator John T. Morgan,

of Alabama. I was fond of him personally and admired greatly his

many and varied talents. He was a most industrious and admirable

legislator, and a debater of rare influence. He was a master of

correct and scholarly English, and one of the very few who never

went to the reporters' room to correct his speeches. As they were

always perfect, he let them stand as they were delivered.

Senator Morgan was a great card on a famous occasion among the

many well-known men who were also to speak. Senator Elihu Root

presided with his usual distinction. Senator Morgan had a prepared

speech which he read. It was unusually long, but very good. On

account of his reputation the audience was, for such an audience,

wonderfully patient and frequent and enthusiastic in its applause.

Mistaking his favorable reception, Senator Morgan, after he had

finished the manuscript, started in for an extended talk. After

the hour had grown to nearly two, the audience became impatient,

and the senator, again mistaking its temper, thought they had

become hostile and announced that at many times and many places

he had been met with opposition, but that he could not be put down

or silenced. Mr. Root did the best he could to keep the peace,

but the audience, who were anxious to hear the other speakers,

gave up hope and began to leave, with the result that midnight

saw an empty hall with a presiding officer and an orator.

At another great political dinner I sat beside Governor Oglesby,

of Illinois. He was famous as a war governor and as a speaker.

There were six speakers on the dais, of whom I was one. Happily,

my turn came early. The governor said to me: "How much of the

gospel can these tenderfeet stand?" "Well, Governor," I answered,

"there are six speakers to-night, and the audience will not allow

the maximum of time occupied to be more than thirty minutes. Any

one who exceeds that will lose his crowd and, worse than that,

he may be killed by the eloquent gentlemen who are bursting with

impatience to get the floor, and who are to follow him."

"Why," said the governor, "I don't see how any one can get started

in thirty minutes."

"Well," I cautioned, "please do not be too long."

When the midnight hour struck the hall was again practically

empty, the governor in the full tide of his speech, which evidently

would require about three hours, and the chairman declared the

meeting adjourned.

Senator Foraker, of Ohio, who was one of the appointed speakers,

told me the next morning that at the Fifth Avenue Hotel, where

he was stopping, he was just getting into bed when the governor

burst into his room and fairly shouted: "Foraker, no wonder

New York is almost always wrong. You saw to-night that it would

not listen to the truth. Now I want to tell you what I intended

to say." He was shouting with impassioned eloquence, his voice

rising until, through the open windows, it reached Madison Square Park,

when the watchman burst in and said: "Sir, the guests in this

hotel will not stand that any longer, but if you must finish your

speech I will take you out in the park."

During Cleveland's administration one of the New York banquets

became a national affair. The principal speaker was the secretary

of the interior, Lucius Q. C. Lamar, who afterwards became

United States senator and justice of the Supreme Court. Mr. Lamar

was one of the ablest and most cultured men in public life, and

a fine orator. I was called upon so late that it was impossible

to follow any longer the serious discussions of the evening, and

what the management and the audience wanted from me was some fun.

Lamar, with his Johnsonian periods and the lofty style of

Edmund Burke, furnished an opportunity for a little pleasantry.

He came to me, when I had finished, in great alarm and said:

"My appearance here is not an ordinary one and does not permit

humor. I am secretary of the interior, and the representative of

the president and his administration. My speech is really the

message of the president to the whole country, and I wish you

would remedy any impression which the country might otherwise

receive from your humor."

This I was very glad to do, but it was an instance of which I have

met many, of a very distinguished and brilliant gentleman taking

himself too seriously. At another rather solemn function of this

kind I performed the same at the request of the management, but

with another protest from the orator and his enmity.

In reminiscing, after he retired from the presidency, Mr. Cleveland

spoke to me of his great respect and admiration for Mr. Lamar.

Cleveland's speeches were always short. His talent was for

compression and concentration, and he could not understand the

necessity for an effort of great length. He told me that while

Justice Lamar was secretary of the interior he came to him one

day and said: "Mr. President, I have accepted an invitation to

deliver an address in the South, and as your administration may

be held responsible for what I say, I wish you would read it over

and make any corrections or suggestions."

Mr. Cleveland said the speech was extraordinarily long though

very good, and when he returned it to Secretary Lamar he said to

him: "That speech will take at least three hours to deliver.

A Northern audience would never submit to over an hour. Don't

you think you had better cut it down?" The secretary replied:

"No, Mr. President; a Southern audience expects three hours, and

would be better satisfied with five."

Justice Miller, one of the ablest of the judges of the Supreme Court

at that time, was the principal speaker on another occasion. He

was ponderous to a degree, and almost equalled in the emphasis

of his utterances, what was once said of Daniel Webster, that

every word weighed twelve pounds. I followed him. The Attorney-General

of the United States, who went back to Washington the next

day with Justice Miller, told me that as soon as they had got

on the train the justice commenced to complain that I had wholly

misunderstood his speech, and that no exaggeration of interpretation

would warrant what I said. The judge saw no humor in my little

effort to relieve the situation, and took it as a reply of opposing

counsel. He said that the justice took it up from another phase

after leaving Philadelphia, and resumed his explanation from

another angle as to what he meant after they reached Baltimore.

When the train arrived at its destination and they separated in the

Washington station, the justice turned to the attorney-general

and said: "Damn Depew! Good-night."

Such are the perils of one who good-naturedly yields to the

importunities of a committee of management who fear the failure

with their audience of their entertainment.

The great dinners of New York are the Chamber of Commerce, which

is a national function, as were also for a long time, during the

presidency of Mr. Choate, those of the New England Society. The

annual banquets of the Irish, Scotch, English, Welsh, Holland,

St. Nicholas, and the French, are also most interesting, and

sometimes by reason of the presence of a national or international

figure, assume great importance. The dinner which the Pilgrims

Society tenders to the British ambassador gives him an opportunity,

without the formalities and conventions of his office, of speaking

his mind both to the United States and to his own people.

The annual banquets of the State societies are now assuming greater

importance. Each State has thousands of men who have been or

still are citizens, but who live in New York. Those dinners

attract the leading politicians of their several States. It is

a platform for the ambitious to be president and sometimes succeeds.

Garfield made a great impression at one of these State dinners,

so did Foraker, and at the last dinner of the Ohio Society the

star was Senator Warren G. Harding. On one occasion, when McKinley

and Garfield were present, in the course of my speech I made a

remark which has since been adopted as a sort of motto by the

Buckeye State. Ohio, I think, has passed Virginia as a mother

of presidents. It is remarkable that the candidates of both great

parties are now of that State. I said in the closing of my speech,

alluding to the distinguished guests and their prospects: "Some

men have greatness thrust upon them, some are born great, and some

are born in Ohio."

One of the greatest effects produced by a speech was by

Henry Ward Beecher at an annual dinner of the Friendly Sons of

St. Patrick. At the time, the Home Rule question was more than

ordinarily acute and Fenianism was rabid. While Mr. Beecher had

great influence upon his audience, his audience had equal influence

upon him. As he enlarged upon the wrongs of Ireland the responses

became more enthusiastic and finally positively savage. This

stirred the orator up till he gave the wildest approval to direct

action and revolution, with corresponding cheers from the diners,

standing and cheering. Mr. Beecher was explaining that speech

for about a year afterwards. I was a speaker on the same platform.

Mr. Beecher always arrived late, and everybody thought it was

to get the applause as he came in but he explained to me that it

was due to his method of preparation. He said his mind would

not work freely until three hours after he had eaten. Many speakers

have told me the same thing. He said when he had a speech to make

at night, whether it was at a dinner or elsewhere, that he took

his dinner in the middle of the day, and then a glass of milk

and crackers at five o'clock, with nothing afterwards. Then in

the evening his mind was perfectly clear and under absolute control.

The Lotos Club has been for fifty years to New York what the

Savage Club is to London. It attracts as its guests the most

eminent men of letters who visit this country. Its entertainments

are always successful. For twenty-nine years it had for its

president Mr. Frank R. Lawrence, a gentleman with a genius for

introducing distinguished strangers with most felicitous speeches,

and a committee who selected with wonderful judgment the other

speakers of the evening. A successor to Mr. Lawrence, and of

equal merit, has been found in Chester S. Lord, now president of

the Lotos Club. Mr. Lord was for more than a third of a century

managing editor of the New York Sun, and is now chancellor of

the University of the State of New York.

I remember one occasion where the most tactful man who ever appeared

before his audience slipped his trolley, and that was Bishop Potter.

The bishop was a remarkably fine preacher and an unusually attractive

public speaker and past master of all the social amenities of life.

The guest of the evening was the famous Canon Kingsley, author

of "Hypatia" and other works at that time universally popular.

The canon had the largest and reddest nose one ever saw. The

bishop, among the pleasantries of his introduction, alluded to

this headlight of religion and literature. The canon fell from

grace and never forgave the bishop.

On Lotos nights I have heard at their best Lord Houghton, statesman

and poet, Mark Twain, Stanley the explorer, and I consider it one

of the distinctions as well as pleasures of my life to have been

a speaker at the Lotos on more occasions than any one else during

the last half century.

In Mr. Joseph Pulitzer's early struggles with his paper, the

New York World, the editorial columns frequently had very severe

attacks on Mr. William H. Vanderbilt and the New York Central

Railroad. They were part, of course, of attacks upon monopoly.

I was frequently included in these criticisms.

The Lotos Club gave a famous dinner to George Augustus Sala, the

English writer and journalist. I found myself seated beside

Mr. Pulitzer, whom I had never met. When I was called upon to

speak I introduced, in what I had to say about the distinguished

guest, this bit of audacity. I said substantially, in addition to

Mr. Sala: "We have with us to-night a great journalist who comes

to the metropolis from the wild and woolly West. After he had

purchased the World he came to me and said, 'Chauncey Depew,

I have a scheme, which I am sure will benefit both of us. Everybody

is envious of the prestige of the New York Central and the wealth

of Mr. Vanderbilt. You are known as his principal adviser. Now,

if in my general hostility to monopoly I include Mr. Vanderbilt and

the New York Central as principal offenders, I must include you,

because you are the champion in your official relationship of the

corporation and of its policies and activities. I do not want

you to have any feeling against me because of this. The policy

will secure for the World everybody who is not a stockholder in

the New York Central, or does not possess millions of money. When

Mr. Vanderbilt finds that you are attacked, he is a gentleman and

broad-minded enough to compensate you and will grant to you both

significant promotion and a large increase in salary.'" Then I

added: "Well, gentlemen, I have only to say that Mr. Pulitzer's

experiment has been eminently successful. He has made his newspaper

a recognized power and a notable organ of public opinion; its

fortunes are made and so are his, and, in regard to myself, all

he predicted has come true, both in promotion and in enlargement

of income." When I sat down Mr. Pulitzer grasped me by the hand

and said: "Chauncey Depew, you are a mighty good fellow. I have

been misinformed about you. You will have friendly treatment

hereafter in any newspaper which I control."

The Gridiron Club of Washington, because of both its ability and

genius and especially its national position, furnishes a wonderful

platform for statesmen. Its genius in creating caricatures and

fake pageants of current political situations at the capital and

its public men is most remarkable. The president always attends,

and most of the Cabinet and justices of the Supreme Court. The

ambassadors and representatives of the leading governments

represented in Washington are guests, and so are the best-known

senators and representatives of the time. The motto of the club

is "Reporters are never present. Ladies always present." Though

the association is made up entirely of reporters, the secrecy is

so well kept that the speakers are unusually frank.

There was a famous contest one night there, however, between

President Roosevelt and Senator Foraker, who at the time were

intensely antagonistic, which can never be forgotten by those

present. There was a delightful interplay between William J. Bryan

and President Roosevelt, when Bryan charged the president with

stealing all his policies and ideas.

If the speaker grasped the peculiarities of his audience and its

temperament, his task was at once the most difficult and the most

delightful, and my friend, Mr. Arthur Dunn, has performed most

useful service in embalming a portion of Gridiron history in his

volume, "Gridiron Nights."

Pierpont Morgan, the greatest of American bankers, was much more

than a banker. He had a wonderful collection in his library and

elsewhere of rare books and works of art. He was always delightful

on the social side. He was very much pleased when he was elected

president of the New England Society. The annual dinner that year

was a remarkably brilliant affair. It was the largest in the

history of the organization. The principal speaker was William Everett,

son of the famous Edward Everett and himself a scholar of great

acquirements and culture. His speech was another evidence of

a very superior man mistaking his audience. He was principal of

the Adams Academy, that great preparatory institution for

Harvard University, and he had greatly enlarged its scope and

usefulness.

Mr. Everett evidently thought that the guests of the New England

Society of New York would be composed of men of letters, educators,

and Harvard graduates. Instead of that, the audience before him

were mainly bankers and successful business men whose Puritan

characteristics had enabled them to win great success in the

competitions in the great metropolis in every branch of business.

They were out for a good time and little else.

Mr. Everett produced a ponderous mass of manuscript and began

reading on the history of New England education and the influence

upon it of the Cambridge School. He had more than an hour of

material and lost his audience in fifteen minutes. No efforts of

the chairman could bring them to attention, and finally the educator

lost that control of himself which he was always teaching to the

boys and threw his manuscript at the heads of the reporters. From

their reports in their various newspapers the next day, they did

not seem to have absorbed the speech by this original method.

Choate and I were both to speak, and Choate came first. As usual,

he threw a brick at me. He mentioned that a reporter had come to

him and said: "Mr. Choate, I have Depew's speech carefully prepared,

with the applause and laughter already in. I want yours." Of

course, no reporter had been to either of us. Mr. Choate had in

his speech an unusual thing for him, a long piece of poetry. When

my turn came to reply I said: "The reporter came to me, as

Mr. Choate has said, and made the remark: 'I already have Choate's

speech. It has in it a good deal of poetry.' I asked the reporter:

'From what author is the poetry taken?' He answered: 'I do not

know the author, but the poetry is so bad I think Choate has

written it himself.'"

Mr. Choate told me a delightful story of his last interview with

Mr. Evarts before he sailed for Europe to take up his ambassadorship

at the Court of St. James. "I called," he said, "on Mr. Evarts

to bid him good-by. He had been confined to his room by a fatal

illness for a long time. 'Choate,' he said, 'I am delighted with

your appointment. You eminently deserve it, and you are

pre-eminently fit for the place. You have won the greatest

distinction in our profession, and have harvested enough of its

rewards to enable you to meet the financial responsibilities of

this post without anxiety. You will have a most brilliant and

useful career in diplomacy, but I fear I will never see you again.'"

Mr. Choate said: "Mr. Evarts, we have had a delightful partnership

of over forty years, and when I retire from diplomacy and resume

the practice of the law I am sure you and I will go on together

again for many years in the same happy old way."

Evarts replied: "No, Choate, I fear that cannot be. When I think

what a care I am to all my people, lying so helpless here, and

that I can do nothing any more to repay their kindness, or to help

in the world, I feel like the boy who wrote from school to his

mother a letter of twenty pages, and then added after the end:

'P. S. Dear mother, please excuse my longevity.'"

Where one has a reputation as a speaker and is also known to oblige

friends and to be hardly able to resist importunities, the demands

upon him are very great. They are also sometimes original and unique.

At one time, the day before Christmas, a representative of the

New York World came to see me, and said: "We are going to give

a dinner to-night to the tramps who gather between ten and eleven

o'clock at the Vienna Restaurant, opposite the St. Denis Hotel,

to receive the bread which the restaurant distributes at that hour."

This line was there every night standing in the cold waiting their

turn. I went down to the hotel, and a young man and young lady

connected with the newspaper crossed the street and picked out

from the line a hundred guests.

It was a remarkable assemblage. The dinner provided was a beautiful

and an excellent one for Christmas. As I heard their stories,

there was among them a representative of almost every department

of American life. Some were temporarily and others permanently

down and out. Every one of the learned professions was represented

and many lines of business. The most of them were in this

condition, because they had come to New York to make their way,

and had struggled until their funds were exhausted, and then they

were ashamed to return home and confess their failure.

I presided at this remarkable banquet and made not only one speech

but several. By encouraging the guests we had several excellent

addresses from preachers without pulpits, lawyers without clients,

doctors without patients, engineers without jobs, teachers without

schools, and travellers without funds. One man arose and said:

"Chauncey Depew, the World has given us such an excellent dinner,

and you have given us such a merry Christmas Eve, we would like

to shake hands with you as we go out."

I had long learned the art of shaking hands with the public. Many

a candidate has had his hands crushed and been permanently hurt

by the vise-like grip of an ardent admirer or a vicious opponent.

I remember General Grant complaining of this, of how he suffered,

and I told him of my discovery of grasping the hand first and

dropping it quickly.

The people about me were looking at these men as they came along,

to see if there was any possible danger. Toward the end of the

procession one man said to me: "Chauncey Depew, I don't belong

to this crowd. I am well enough off and can take care of myself.

I am an anarchist. My business is to stir up unrest and discontent,

and that brings me every night to mingle with the crowd waiting

for their dole of bread from Fleischmann's bakery. You do more

than any one else in the whole country to create good feeling and

dispel unrest, and you have done a lot of it to-night. I made up

my mind to kill you right here, but you are such an infernal good

fellow that I have not the heart to do it, so here's my hand."

On one occasion I received an invitation to address a sociological

society which was to meet at the house of one of the most famous

entertainers in New York. My host said that Edward Atkinson,

the well-known New England writer, philosopher, and sociologist,

would address the meeting. When I arrived at the house I found

Atkinson in despair. The audience were young ladies in full

evening dress and young men in white vests, white neckties, and

swallow-tails. There was also a band present. We were informed

that this society had endeavored to mingle instruction with

pleasure, and it really was a dancing club, but they had conceived

the idea of having something serious and instructive before the ball.

Mr. Atkinson said to me: "What won me to come here is that in

Boston we have a society of the same name. It is composed of

very serious people who are engaged in settlement and sociological

work. They are doing their best to improve the conditions of

the young women and young men who are in clerical and other

employment. I have delivered several addresses before that society,

and before the audiences which they gather, on how to live

comfortably and get married on the smallest possible margin. Now,

for instance, for my lecture here to-night I have on a ready-made

suit of clothes, for which I paid yesterday five dollars. In that

large boiler there is a stove which I have invented. In the oven

of the stove is beef and various vegetables, and to heat it is

a kerosene lamp with a clockwork attached. A young man or a young

woman, or a young married couple go to the market and buy the cheap

cuts of beef, and then, according to my instructions, they put it

in the stove with the vegetables, light the lamp, set the clockwork

and go to their work. When they return at five, six, or seven

o'clock they find a very excellent and very cheap dinner all ready

to be served. Now, of what use is my five-dollar suit of clothes

and my fifty-cent dinner for this crowd of butterflies?"

However, Mr. Atkinson and I made up our minds to talk to them as

if they needed it or would need it some day or other, and they

were polite enough to ask questions and pretend to enjoy it.

I understand that afterwards at the midnight supper there was more

champagne and more hilarity than at previous gatherings of this

sociological club.

During one of our presidential campaigns some young men came up

from the Bowery to see me. They said: "We have a very hard time

down in our district. The crowd is a tough one but intelligent,

and we think would be receptive of the truth if they could hear

it put to them in an attractive form. We will engage a large

theatre attached to a Bowery beer saloon if you will come down

and address the meeting. The novelty of your appearance will

fill the theatre."

I knew there was considerable risk, and yet it was a great

opportunity. I believe that in meeting a crowd of that sort one

should appear as they expect him to look when addressing the best

of audiences. These people are very proud, and they resent any

attempt on your part to be what they know you are not, but that

you are coming down to their level by assuming a character which

you presume to be theirs. So I dressed with unusual care, and

when I went on the platform a short-sleeved, short-haired genius

in the theatre shouted: "Chauncey thinks he is in Carnegie Hall."

The famous Tim Sullivan, who was several times a state senator

and congressman, and a mighty good fellow, was the leader of the

Bowery and controlled its political actions. He came to see me

and said: "I hope you will withdraw from that appointment. I do

not want you to come down there. In the first place, I cannot

protect you, and I don't think it is safe. In the second place,

you are so well known and popular among our people that I am

afraid you will produce an impression, and if you get away with

it that will hurt our machine."

In the course of my speech a man arose whom I knew very well as

a district leader, and who was frequently in my office, seeking

positions for his constituents and other favors. That night he

was in his shirt-sleeves among the boys. With the old volunteer

fireman's swagger and the peculiar patois of that part of New York,

he said: "Chauncey Depew, you have no business here. You are

the president of the New York Central Railroad, ain't you, hey?

You are a rich man, ain't you, hey? We are poor boys. You don't

know us and can't teach us anything. You had better get out

while you can."

My reply was this: "My friend, I want a little talk with you.

I began life very much as you did. Nobody helped me. I was a

country boy and my capital was this head," and I slapped it,

"these legs," and I slapped them, "these hands," and I slapped

them, "and by using them as best I could I have become just what

you say I am and have got where you will never arrive."

A shirt-sleeved citizen jumped up from the audience and shouted:

"Go ahead, Chauncey, you're a peach." That characterization

of a peach went into the newspapers and was attached to me wherever

I appeared for many years afterwards, not only in this country

but abroad. It even found a place in the slang column of the great

dictionaries of the English language. The result of the meeting,

however, was a free discussion in the Bowery, and for the first

time in its history that particular district was carried by

the Republicans.

After their triumph in the election I gave a dinner in the

Union League Club to the captains of the election districts.

There were about a hundred of them. The district captains were

all in their usual business suits, and were as sharp, keen,

intelligent, and up-to-date young men as one could wish to meet.

The club members whom I had invited to meet my guests were, of

course, in conventional evening dress. The novelty of the occasion

was so enjoyed by them that they indulged with more than usual

liberality in the fluids and fizz and became very hilarious. Not

one of the district captains touched a drop of wine.

While the club members were a little frightened at the idea of

these East-siders coming, my guests understood and met every

convention of the occasion before, during, and after dinner, as if

it was an accustomed social function with them. The half dozen

who made speeches showed a grasp of the political questions of

the hour and an ability to put their views before an audience which

was an exhibition of a high order of intelligence and self-culture.

In selecting a few out-of-the-way occasions which were also most

interesting and instructive, I recall one with a society which

prided itself upon its absence of narrowness and its freedom of

thought and discussion. The speakers were most critical of all

that is generally accepted and believed. Professor John Fiske,

the historian, was the most famous man present, and very critical

of the Bible. My good mother had brought me up on the Bible and

instilled in me the deepest reverence for the good book. The

criticism of the professor stirred me to a rejoinder. I, of course,

was in no way equal to meeting him, with his vast erudition and

scholarly accomplishments. I could only give what the Bible critic

would regard as valueless, a sledge-hammer expression of faith.

Somebody took the speech down. Doctor John Hall, the famous

preacher and for many years pastor of the Fifth Avenue Presbyterian

Church, told me that the Bible and the church societies in England

had put the speech into a leaflet, and were distributing many

millions of them in the British Isles.

It is singular what vogue and circulation a story of the hour will

receive. Usually these decorations of a speech die with the

occasion. There was fierce rivalry when it was decided to celebrate

the four hundredth anniversary of the landing of Columbus in

America, between New York and Chicago, as to which should have

the exhibition. Of course the Western orators were not modest in

the claims which they made for the City by the Lakes. To dampen

their ardor I embroidered the following story, which took wonderfully

when told in my speech.

It was at the Eagle Hotel in Peekskill, at which it was said

George Washington stopped many times as a guest during the

Revolutionary War, where in respect to his memory they preserved

the traditions of the Revolutionary period. At that time the bill

of fare was not printed, but the waiter announced to the guest

what would be served, if asked for. A Chicago citizen was dining

at the hotel. He ordered each of the many items announced to him

by the waiter. When he came to the deserts the waiter said: "We

have mince-pie, apple-pie, pumpkin-pie, and custard-pie." The

Chicago man ordered mince-pie, apple-pie, and pumpkin-pie. The

disgusted waiter remarked: "What is the matter with the custard?"

Alongside me sat a very well-known English gentleman of high

rank, who had come to this country on a sort of missionary and

evangelistic errand. Of course, he was as solemn as the task he

had undertaken, which was to convert American sinners. He turned

suddenly to me and, in a loud voice, asked: "What was the matter

with the custard-pie?" The story travelled for years, was used

for many purposes, was often murdered in the narration, but managed

to survive, and was told to me as an original joke by one of the

men I met at the convention last June in Chicago.

After Chicago received from Congress the appointment I did all

I could to help the legislation and appropriations necessary.

The result was that when I visited the city as an orator at the

opening of the exhibition I was voted the freedom of the city, was

given a great reception, and among other things reviewed the school

children who paraded in my honor.

The Yale alumni of New York City had for many years an organization.

In the early days the members met very infrequently at a dinner.

This was a formal affair, and generally drew a large gathering,

both of the local alumni and from the college and the country.

These meetings were held at Delmonico's, then located in

Fourteenth Street. The last was so phenomenally dull that there

were no repetitions.

The speakers were called by classes, and the oldest in graduation

had the platform. The result was disastrous. These old men all

spoke too long, and it was an endless stream of platitudes and

reminiscences of forgotten days until nearly morning. Then an

inspiration of the chairman led him to say: "I think it might be

well to have a word from the younger graduates."

There was a unanimous call for a well-known humorist named Styles.

His humor was aided by a startling appearance of abundant red hair,

an aggressive red mustache, and eyes which seemed to push his

glasses off his nose. Many of the speakers, owing to the

imperfection of the dental art in those days, indicated their

false teeth by their trouble in keeping them in place, and the

whistling it gave to their utterances. One venerable orator in his

excitement dropped his into his tumbler in the midst of his address.

Styles said to this tired audience: "At this early hour in the

morning I will not attempt to speak, but I will tell a story.

Down at Barnegat, N. J., where I live, our neighbors are very fond

of apple-jack. One of them while in town had his jug filled, and

on the way home saw a friend leaning over the gate and looking

so thirsty that he stopped and handed over his jug with an offer of

its hospitality. After sampling it the neighbor continued the

gurgling as the jug rose higher and higher, until there was not

a drop left in it. The indignant owner said: 'You infernal hog,

why did you drink up all my apple-jack?' His friend answered:

'I beg your pardon, Job, but I could not bite off the tap, because

I have lost all my teeth.'" The aptness of the story was the

success of the evening.

Some years afterwards there was a meeting of the alumni to form

a live association. Among those who participated in the organization

were William Walter Phelps, afterwards member of Congress and

minister to Austria; Judge Henry E. Howland; John Proctor Clarke,

now chief justice of the Appellate Division; James R. Sheffield

(several years later) now president of the Union League Club;

and Isaac Bromley, one of the editors of the New York Tribune,

one of the wittiest writers of his time, and many others who have

since won distinction. They elected me president, and I continued

such by successive elections for ten years.

The association met once a month and had a serious paper read,

speeches, a simple supper, and a social evening. These monthly

gatherings became a feature and were widely reported in the press.

We could rely upon one or more of the faculty, and there was always

to be had an alumnus of national reputation from abroad. We had

a formal annual dinner, which was more largely attended than

almost any function of the kind in the city, and, because of the

variety and excellence of the speaking, always very enjoyable.

The Harvard and Princeton alumni also had an association at that

time, with annual dinners, and it was customary for the officers

of each of these organizations to be guests of the one which gave

the dinner. The presidents of the colleges represented always

came. Yale could rely upon President Dwight, Harvard upon

President Eliot, and Princeton upon President McCosh.

Of course, the interchanges between the representatives of the

different colleges were as exciting and aggressive as their

football and baseball contests are to-day. I recall one occasion

of more than usual interest. It was the Princeton dinner, and

the outstanding figure of the occasion was that most successful

and impressive of college executives, President McCosh. He spoke

with a broad Scotch accent and was in every sense a literalist.

Late in the evening Mr. Beaman, a very brilliant lawyer and partner

of Evarts and Choate, who was president of the Harvard Alumni

Association, said to me: "These proceedings are fearfully prosaic

and highbrow. When you are called, you attack President McCosh,

and I will defend him." So in the course of my remarks, which

were highly complimentary to Princeton and its rapid growth under

President McCosh, I spoke of its remarkable success in receiving

gifts and legacies, which were then pouring into its treasury every

few months, and were far beyond anything which came either to

Yale or Harvard, though both were in great need. Then I hinted

that possibly this flow of riches was due to the fact that

President McCosh had such an hypnotic influence over the graduates

of Princeton and their fathers, mothers, and wives that none of

them felt there was a chance of a heavenly future unless Princeton

was among the heirs.

Mr. Beaman was very indignant and with the continuing approval

and applause of the venerable doctor made a furious attack upon

me. His defense of the president was infinitely worse than my

attack. He alleged that I had intimated that the doctor kept tab

on sick alumni of wealth and their families, and at the critical

moment there would be a sympathetic call from the doctor, and,

while at the bedside he administered comfort and consolation,

yet he made it plain to the patient that he could not hope for

the opening of the pearly gates or the welcome of St. Peter unless

Princeton was remembered. Then Beaman, in a fine burst of oratory,

ascribed this wonderful prosperity not to any personal effort or

appeal, but because the sons of Princeton felt such reverence and

gratitude for their president that they were only too glad of an

opportunity to contribute to the welfare of the institution.

The moment Beaman sat down the doctor arose, and with great

intensity expressed his thanks and gratitude to the eloquent

president of the Harvard alumni, and then shouted: "I never,

never, never solicited a gift for Princeton from a dying man.

I never, never, never sat by the bedside of a dying woman and

held up the terrors of hell and the promises of heaven, according

to the disposition she made of her estate. I never, never looked

with unsympathetic and eager anticipation whenever any of our

wealthy alumni appeared in ill health."

The doctor, however, retaliated subsequently. He invited me to

deliver a lecture before the college, and entertained me most

delightfully at his house. It was a paid admission, and when

I left in the morning he said: "I want to express to you on behalf

of our college our thanks. We raised last evening through your

lecture enough to fit our ball team for its coming contest with

Yale." In that contest Princeton was triumphant.

The Yale Alumni Association subsequently evoluted into the Yale Club

of New York, which has in every way been phenomenally prosperous.

It is a factor of national importance in supporting Yale and keeping

alive everywhere appreciation and enthusiasm for and practice of

Yale spirit.

My class of 1856 at Yale numbered ninety-seven on graduation.

Only six of us survive. In these pages I have had a continuous

class meeting. Very few, if any, of my associates in the New York

Legislature of 1862 and 1863 are alive, and none of the State

officers who served with me in the succeeding years. There is

no one left in the service who was there when I became connected

with the New York Central Railroad, and no executive officer in

any railroad in the United States who held that position when

I was elected and is still active.

It is the habit of age to dwell on the degeneracy of the times

and lament the good old days and their superiority, but Yale is

infinitely greater and broader than when I graduated sixty-five

years ago. The New York Legislature and State executives are

governing an empire compared with the problems which we had to

solve fifty-nine years ago.

I believe in the necessity of leadership, and while recognizing

a higher general average in public life, regret that the world

crisis through which we have passed and which is not yet completed,

has produced no Washington, Lincoln, or Roosevelt. I rejoice that

President Harding, under the pressure of his unequalled responsibilities,

is developing the highest qualities of leadership. It is an

exquisite delight to visualize each administration from 1856 and

to have had considerable intimacy with the leaders in government

and the moulders of public opinion during sixty-five unusually

laborious years.

Many who have given their reminiscences have kept close continuing

diaries. From these voluminous records they have selected according

to their judgment. As I have before said, I have no data and must

rely on my memory. This faculty is not logical, its operations are

not by years or periods, but its films unroll as they are moved

by association of ideas and events.

It has been a most pleasurable task to bring back into my life

these worthies of the past and to live over again events of greater

or lesser importance. Sometimes an anecdote illumines a character

more than a biography, and a personal incident helps an understanding

of a period more than its formal history.

Life has had for me immeasurable charms. I recognize at all times

there has been granted to me the loving care and guidance of God.

My sorrows have been alleviated and lost their acuteness from a

firm belief in closer reunion in eternity. My misfortunes,

disappointments, and losses have been met and overcome by abundant

proof of my mother's faith and teaching that they were the discipline

of Providence for my own good, and if met in that spirit and

with redoubled effort to redeem the apparent tragedy they would

prove to be blessings. Such has been the case.

While new friends are not the same as old ones, yet I have found

cheer and inspiration in the close communion with the young of

succeeding generations. They have made and are making this a

mighty good world for me.

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