THE IRISH CHURCH BILL: CRITICAL DAYS (1869).

=Source.=--Morley’s _Life of Gladstone_, vol. ii., pp. 273–276.

(Macmillan and Co.)

On July 16, the Bill, restored substantially to its first shape, was

again back on the table of the Lords, and shipwreck seemed for five

days to be inevitable. On July 20, at eleven o’clock, by a majority of

175 to 93, the Lords once more excluded from the preamble the words

that the Commons had placed and replaced there, in order to declare

the policy of Parliament on matters ecclesiastical in Ireland. This

involved a meaning which Mr. Gladstone declared that no power on earth

could induce the Commons to accept. The crisis was of unsurpassed

anxiety for the Prime Minister. He has left his own record of its

phases:

_Saturday, July 17._--By desire of the Cabinet I went to Windsor in

the afternoon and represented to H. M. what it was in our power to

do--namely, although we had done all we could do upon the merits, yet,

for the sake of peace and of the House of Lords, [we were willing]

(_a_) to make some one further pecuniary concession to the Church

of sensible though not very large amount; (_b_) to make a further

concession as to curates, slight in itself; (_c_) to amend the residue

clause so as to give to Parliament the future control, and to be

content with simply declaring the principle on which the property

should be distributed....

The further pecuniary concession we were prepared to recommend would be

some £170,000 or £180,000.

_Sunday, July 18._--In the afternoon Lord Granville called on me and

brought me a confidential memorandum, containing an overture which Mr.

Disraeli had placed in the hands of Lord Bessborough for communication

to us.... While the contention as to the residue was abandoned, and

pecuniary concessions alone were sought, the demand amounted, according

to our computation, to between £900,000 and £1,000,000. This it was

evident was utterly inadmissible. I saw no possibility of approach to

it, and considered that a further quarter of a million or thereabouts

was all that the House of Commons could be expected or asked further to

concede.

_Monday, July 19._--Those members of the Government who had acted as a

sort of Committee in the Irish Church question met in the afternoon.

We were all agreed in opinion that the Disraeli overture must be

rejected, though without closing the door, and a reply was prepared in

this sense, which Lord Granville undertook to send. [Draft in the above

sense that no sum approaching £1,000,000 could be entertained].

_Tuesday, July 20._--The Archbishop (Dr. Tait), who had communicated

with Lord Cairns in the interval, came to me early to-day and brought

a memorandum as a basis of agreement, which, to my surprise, demanded

higher terms than those of Mr. Disraeli. I told the Archbishop the

terms in which we had already expressed ourselves to Mr. Disraeli.

Meanwhile an answer had come from Mr. Disraeli stating that he could

not do more. Then followed the meeting of the opposition peers at the

Duke of Marlborough’s.

_Wednesday, July 21._--The Cabinet met at eleven, and I went to it

in the mind of last night. [Not to abandon the Bill absolutely, but

only to suspend the Government’s responsibility for it, leaving the

Opposition to work their own will, and with the intention, when this

had been done, of considering the matter further]. We discussed,

however, at great lengths all possible methods of proceeding that

occurred to us. The course adopted was to go through the endowment

amendments, and if they were carried adversely, then to drop their

responsibility.

_Thursday, July 22._--I was laid up to-day and the transactions were

carried on by Lord Granville, in communication with me from time to

time at my house.

The proceedings of this critical day are narrated by Lord Granville in

a memorandum to Mr. Gladstone dated August 4.

“After seeing you, I met Lord Cairns at the Colonial Office. He offered

me terms.... I asked him whether, in his opinion, he, the Archbishop,

and I could carry anything we agreed upon. He said, ‘Yes, certainly.’

After seeing you, I met Lord Cairns a second time in his room in the

House of Lords. I asked, as a preliminary to giving any opinion on his

amendments, how he proposed to deal with the preamble. He said, ‘To

leave it as amended by the Lords.’ I then proposed the words which were

afterwards adopted in the 68th clause. He was at first taken aback,

but admitted that he had personally no objection to them.... We agreed

upon the commutation clause if the 7 and the 5 per cent. were lumped

together. On the curates’ clause we could come to no agreement. He

proposed to see Lord Salisbury and the Archbishop, and to meet again

at four at the Colonial Office. He spoke with fairness as to the

difficulty of his position, and the risk he ran with his own party.

I again saw you, and asked the Irish Attorney-General to be present

at the last interview. I stated to him in Lord Cairns’ presence how

far we agreed, and expressed my regret that on the last point--the

curates--our difference was irreconcilable. Lord Cairns said he hoped

not, and proceeded to argue strongly in favour of his proposal. He at

last, however, at 4.30, compromised the matter by accepting five years

instead of one. I shook his hand, which was trembling with nervousness.

We discussed the form of announcing the arrangement to the House. We

at once agreed it was better to tell the whole truth, and soon settled

that it would be better for its success that he should announce the

details. I was afterwards apprehensive that this latter arrangement

might be disadvantageous to us, but nothing could be better or fairer

than his statement.”

“The news was brought to me on my sofa,” Mr. Gladstone says, “and

between five and six o’clock I was enabled to telegraph to the Queen.

My telegram was followed up by a letter at 7 p.m., which announced that

the arrangement had been accepted by the House of Lords, and that a

general satisfaction prevailed.”

To the Queen he wrote (July 22):

“Mr. Gladstone is at a loss to account for the great change in the tone

and views of the Opposition since Sunday and Monday and even Tuesday

last, but on this topic it is needless to enter. As to the principal

matters, the basis of the arrangement on the side of the Government

is much the same as was intended when Mr. Gladstone had the honour

of an audience at Windsor on Saturday; but various minor concessions

have been added. Mr. Gladstone does not doubt that, if the majority

of the House of Lords should accede to the advice of Lord Cairns, the

Government will be able to induce the House of Commons to agree on the

conditions proposed. Mr. Gladstone would in vain strive to express to

your Majesty the relief, thankfulness, and satisfaction with which he

contemplates not only the probable passing of what many believe to be a

beneficent and necessary measure, but the undoubted and signal blessing

of an escape from a formidable constitutional conflict.”

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