I did admit that, Euthydemus, and I have no way of escape.

Well then, said he, if you admit that Zeus and the other gods are yours,

can you sell them or give them away or do what you will with them, as

you would with other animals?

At this I was quite struck dumb, Crito, and lay prostrate. Ctesippus

came to the rescue.

Bravo, Heracles, brave words, said he.

Bravo Heracles, or is Heracles a Bravo? said Dionysodorus.

Poseidon, said Ctesippus, what awful distinctions. I will have no more

of them; the pair are invincible.

Then, my dear Crito, there was universal applause of the speakers and

their words, and what with laughing and clapping of hands and rejoicings

the two men were quite overpowered; for hitherto their partisans only

had cheered at each successive hit, but now the whole company shouted

with delight until the columns of the Lyceum returned the sound, seeming

to sympathize in their joy. To such a pitch was I affected myself, that

I made a speech, in which I acknowledged that I had never seen the like

of their wisdom; I was their devoted servant, and fell to praising and

admiring of them. What marvellous dexterity of wit, I said, enabled you

to acquire this great perfection in such a short time? There is much,

indeed, to admire in your words, Euthydemus and Dionysodorus, but there

is nothing that I admire more than your magnanimous disregard of

any opinion--whether of the many, or of the grave and reverend

seigniors--you regard only those who are like yourselves. And I do

verily believe that there are few who are like you, and who would

approve of such arguments; the majority of mankind are so ignorant of

their value, that they would be more ashamed of employing them in the

refutation of others than of being refuted by them. I must further

express my approval of your kind and public-spirited denial of all

differences, whether of good and evil, white or black, or any other;

the result of which is that, as you say, every mouth is sewn up, not

excepting your own, which graciously follows the example of others; and

thus all ground of offence is taken away. But what appears to me to

be more than all is, that this art and invention of yours has been so

admirably contrived by you, that in a very short time it can be imparted

to any one. I observed that Ctesippus learned to imitate you in no time.

Now this quickness of attainment is an excellent thing; but at the same

time I would advise you not to have any more public entertainments;

there is a danger that men may undervalue an art which they have so easy

an opportunity of acquiring; the exhibition would be best of all, if

the discussion were confined to your two selves; but if there must be

an audience, let him only be present who is willing to pay a handsome

fee;--you should be careful of this;--and if you are wise, you will also

bid your disciples discourse with no man but you and themselves. For

only what is rare is valuable; and 'water,' which, as Pindar says, is

the 'best of all things,' is also the cheapest. And now I have only to

request that you will receive Cleinias and me among your pupils.

Such was the discussion, Crito; and after a few more words had passed

between us we went away. I hope that you will come to them with me,

since they say that they are able to teach any one who will give them

money; no age or want of capacity is an impediment. And I must repeat

one thing which they said, for your especial benefit,--that the learning

of their art did not at all interfere with the business of money-making.

CRITO: Truly, Socrates, though I am curious and ready to learn, yet I

fear that I am not like-minded with Euthydemus, but one of the other

sort, who, as you were saying, would rather be refuted by such

arguments than use them in refutation of others. And though I may appear

ridiculous in venturing to advise you, I think that you may as well hear

what was said to me by a man of very considerable pretensions--he was a

professor of legal oratory--who came away from you while I was walking

up and down. 'Crito,' said he to me, 'are you giving no attention to

these wise men?' 'No, indeed,' I said to him; 'I could not get within

hearing of them--there was such a crowd.' 'You would have heard

something worth hearing if you had.' 'What was that?' I said. 'You would

have heard the greatest masters of the art of rhetoric discoursing.'

'And what did you think of them?' I said. 'What did I think of them?' he

said:--'theirs was the sort of discourse which anybody might hear from

men who were playing the fool, and making much ado about nothing.' That

was the expression which he used. 'Surely,' I said, 'philosophy is a

charming thing.' 'Charming!' he said; 'what simplicity! philosophy is

nought; and I think that if you had been present you would have been

ashamed of your friend--his conduct was so very strange in placing

himself at the mercy of men who care not what they say, and fasten upon

every word. And these, as I was telling you, are supposed to be the

most eminent professors of their time. But the truth is, Crito, that the

study itself and the men themselves are utterly mean and ridiculous.'

Now censure of the pursuit, Socrates, whether coming from him or from

others, appears to me to be undeserved; but as to the impropriety of

holding a public discussion with such men, there, I confess that, in my

opinion, he was in the right.

SOCRATES: O Crito, they are marvellous men; but what was I going to say?

First of all let me know;--What manner of man was he who came up to you

and censured philosophy; was he an orator who himself practises in the

courts, or an instructor of orators, who makes the speeches with which

they do battle?

CRITO: He was certainly not an orator, and I doubt whether he had ever

been into court; but they say that he knows the business, and is a

clever man, and composes wonderful speeches.

SOCRATES: Now I understand, Crito; he is one of an amphibious class,

whom I was on the point of mentioning--one of those whom Prodicus

describes as on the border-ground between philosophers and

statesmen--they think that they are the wisest of all men, and that

they are generally esteemed the wisest; nothing but the rivalry of the

philosophers stands in their way; and they are of the opinion that if

they can prove the philosophers to be good for nothing, no one will

dispute their title to the palm of wisdom, for that they are themselves

really the wisest, although they are apt to be mauled by Euthydemus and

his friends, when they get hold of them in conversation. This opinion

which they entertain of their own wisdom is very natural; for they

have a certain amount of philosophy, and a certain amount of political

wisdom; there is reason in what they say, for they argue that they have

just enough of both, and so they keep out of the way of all risks and

conflicts and reap the fruits of their wisdom.

CRITO: What do you say of them, Socrates? There is certainly something

specious in that notion of theirs.

SOCRATES: Yes, Crito, there is more speciousness than truth; they cannot

be made to understand the nature of intermediates. For all persons or

things, which are intermediate between two other things, and participate

in both of them--if one of these two things is good and the other evil,

are better than the one and worse than the other; but if they are in

a mean between two good things which do not tend to the same end, they

fall short of either of their component elements in the attainment of

their ends. Only in the case when the two component elements which do

not tend to the same end are evil is the participant better than either.

Now, if philosophy and political action are both good, but tend to

different ends, and they participate in both, and are in a mean between

them, then they are talking nonsense, for they are worse than either;

or, if the one be good and the other evil, they are better than the one

and worse than the other; only on the supposition that they are both

evil could there be any truth in what they say. I do not think that they

will admit that their two pursuits are either wholly or partly evil; but

the truth is, that these philosopher-politicians who aim at both fall

short of both in the attainment of their respective ends, and are

really third, although they would like to stand first. There is no need,

however, to be angry at this ambition of theirs--which may be forgiven;

for every man ought to be loved who says and manfully pursues and works

out anything which is at all like wisdom: at the same time we shall do

well to see them as they really are.

CRITO: I have often told you, Socrates, that I am in a constant

difficulty about my two sons. What am I to do with them? There is

no hurry about the younger one, who is only a child; but the other,

Critobulus, is getting on, and needs some one who will improve him.

I cannot help thinking, when I hear you talk, that there is a sort

of madness in many of our anxieties about our children:--in the first

place, about marrying a wife of good family to be the mother of them,

and then about heaping up money for them--and yet taking no care about

their education. But then again, when I contemplate any of those who

pretend to educate others, I am amazed. To me, if I am to confess the

truth, they all seem to be such outrageous beings: so that I do not know

how I can advise the youth to study philosophy.

SOCRATES: Dear Crito, do you not know that in every profession the

inferior sort are numerous and good for nothing, and the good are few

and beyond all price: for example, are not gymnastic and rhetoric and

money-making and the art of the general, noble arts?

CRITO: Certainly they are, in my judgment.

SOCRATES: Well, and do you not see that in each of these arts the many

are ridiculous performers?

CRITO: Yes, indeed, that is very true.

SOCRATES: And will you on this account shun all these pursuits yourself

and refuse to allow them to your son?

CRITO: That would not be reasonable, Socrates.

SOCRATES: Do you then be reasonable, Crito, and do not mind whether the

teachers of philosophy are good or bad, but think only of philosophy

herself. Try and examine her well and truly, and if she be evil seek to

turn away all men from her, and not your sons only; but if she be what I

believe that she is, then follow her and serve her, you and your house,

as the saying is, and be of good cheer.

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