_True._ That may be well enough at _First_; but still, after _One

Refusal_, and That with a _Publick Interdict_ on the Neck on't,

forbidding the pursuance of it; such a _Petition_ is not by any means to

be _Repeated_. _First_, out of _Respect_ to _Regal Authority_:

_Secondly_, as the _King_ is the _Sole Judge_ of the matter: _Thirdly_,

upon the _Importunity_, it is not so properly _Desiring_ of a thing, as

_Tugging_ for it. _Fourthly_, It tends many ways to the Diminution of

his Majesties _Honour_, in case it be Obtain'd: For it implys, either

_Levity_, or _Fear_; or (to make the best on't) the _King_ confers the

_Obligation_, and the _Heads of the Petition_ receive the _Thanks_. Now

adde to all this, the _suborning_ of _Subscriptions_, and the

_Inflaming_ of _Parties_, what can be more _Undutifull_ or _Dangerous_?

_Citt._ But do not you find many _Honest_ and _Considerable men_

concern'd in these _Petitions_?

The Nation poyson'd with False Principles.

The Injustice of our Common Wealthsmen.

_True._ Yes, in several of them _I_ do; and the main reason is This.

There's no man under _Five and Fifty_, at Least, that is able to give

any Account, of the _Designe_, and _Effects_ of this way of Petitioning

in _Forty_ and _Forty One_, but by _Hear-say_: so that This Nation

proceeds mostly upon the _Maxims_, and _Politiques_, which That

_Republican_ Humour deliver'd over to us: But yet let the _Thing_, or

the _Manner_ of it be as it will, Those that _disarm'd_, and _turn'd

back_ the _Kentish Petitioners_ at _London-bridg_. Those that _Wounded_,

and _Murther'd_ the _Surry-Petitioneres_ in the _Palace Yard_, only for

desiring a _Peace_, and in order to the _Preservation_ of his _late

Majesty_: _Those People_ methinks, that were so Outrageous _Against

Those Petitions_ (and Several others of the same kind) should not have

the Face now to be so _Violent, for This_. And whoever examines the

_present Roll_, will find the _Old Republicans_ to be the

_Ring-leaders_.

Bum. Really, _Citt_, the man speaks Reason.

The mean ways of promoting their Designs.

_True._ Consider then the _Mean ways_ ye have of advancing your

Pretensions, by _Falshoods_, and _Scandals_, to disappoint Honest men of

_Elections_; The use ye make of the most _Servile Instruments_, to

promote your Ends; your _fawning Methods_ of _Popularity_ toward the

_Rabble_; your ways of undermining the _Government_ of the _City_, as

well as of the _Nation_; your worse then _Jesuitical Evasions_ in matter

of _Conscience_; your _Non-sensical Salvo's_, and _Expositions_ of

_Christian Liberty_; your putting out the _Church of Englands Colours_,

and calling your selves _Protestants_, when you are effectually no

better then _Algerines_, and _Pyrating_ even upon _Christianity it

self_; your Beating of the wood, in the History of our most _Seditious

Times_, to start _Presidents_ and _Records_ in favour of your own

Disloyal Purposes. The _Pharisaical_ Distinguishing of your selves from

the _Profane_ (as you are pleas'd to stile all others,) even in your

_Dresse, Tone, Language_, &c. Your Uncharitable _Bitternesse of Spirit_;

your _lying in wait_ for _Blood_; and laying of _Snares_ for the

_Unwary_ and the _Innocent_; and still vouching an _Inspiration_ for all

your _Wickednesse_; your gathering of _all Winds_ toward the raising of

a _Storm_; Your _Unity_ in _Opposition_, and in _nothing Else_: your

_Clamours_, and _Invectives_ against _Priests_, and _Jesuits_, when it

is the Church of _England_ yet, that feels the _Last effect_ of your

_Sacrilegious Rage_. 'Tis not so much the _Officers_ of the Church, and

State, that are _Popishly Affected_, but the _Offices_ Themselves; and

Those in the first place (as you chuse your _Sins_ too) that are most

_Beneficiall_. To say nothing of your wild _Impostures_ upon the

_Multitude_.----

_Citt._ Now you talk of _Impostures_, what do you think of _L'Estrange's

History of the P L O T_, and his _Answer to the A P P E A L_? Whether

are Those Pamphlets, _Impostures_ upon the _Multitude_, or _Not_?

_True._ You were saying e'en now, That _The History of the Damnable

Popish Plot_ was of your Writing; Answer me That Question, First; Was it

so, or not?

_Citt._ No, it was not of my Writing; It was done by a

_Protestant-Club_.

_True._ Why then let me tell ye, if a man may believe the _Preface_ to

That _Club-History_, or the _Notes_ upon the _Answer to the Appeal_ (for

I have read them all:) _L'Estrange's Pamphlets_ are great abuses upon

the _People_: But if you had the Books about ye, the matter were easily

clear'd by comparing them.

_Citt._ By good luck we have 'um all about us, that can any way concern

this Question. And look ye here now.

Reflexions upon _L'Estrange_.

First, _He calls his_ Abridgement _of the_ Tryals, _The_ History _of

the_ Plot, _without mentioning one word of the Original Contrivance, the

Preparatives, manner of Discovery, and other Remarkables essential to a_

History.

2. _He omits_ Staly's _and_ Reading's Tryals, _which yet sure had

Relation to the_ Plot.

3. _In his_ Epistle, _he seems to drown the_ Popish Plot _with

suggestions of an_ Imaginary One _of the_ Protestants.

4. _The amusing People with such Stories, is notoriously a Part of the_

Grand Popish Designe.

5. _Whereas he tells us, that not one_ Material Point _is omitted, most

Readers cannot finde the substantial part of Mr._ Bedloes _Evidence

against_ Wakeman, _(P. 46 of the Tryall) So much as hinted at: Not to

mention the gross shuffles, and Omissions in_ Pag. 77, _and elsewhere._

6. _He charges the_ Printed Tryals (_in his FREEBORN SUBIECT_ P. 15.)

_with many_ Gross Incoherences, _and very_ Material mistakes; _yet

Instances but_ One, _and corrected too, as an_ Erratum.

7. _When Our Posterity shall urge these Tryals for proof against_

Papists, _how easily may the subtle Villains stop their Mouths, by

alledging from this Authour that_ no heed is to be given to the said

Tryals; _(being so publickly own'd by a Person of his Note, and Late

Qualification) to be guilty of so many, and such very_ Material

Mistakes.

The Fore going Reflections Answer'd.

_True._ Observe here, _First L'Estrange_ expounds his _History_ in the

_Title Page_, by restraining it to the _Charge_ and _Defence_ of _the

Persons there mentioned_: Beside that he calls it an _Historical

Abstract_, and a _Summary_, in his _Epistle_.

2. _Staleys Trial_ had no Relation at all to the _Plot_, and _Reading_

was not Try'd for's _Life_; and so not within the Compass of his

intention exprest in the _Preface_.

3. The _Epistle_ acknowledges a _Detestable Plot_, and a _Conspiracy_:

but advises _Moderation_, and that the _Rabble_ may not dictate Laws to

_Authority_; for _that Licence_ was the Cause of the _Late Rebellion_.

4. It was more then a _Story_, the _Murther_ of the _Late King_, and the

_Subversion_ of the Government, and the _suppressing_ of these

_Necessary Hints_, and _Cautions_ is notoriously a part of the _Grand

Phanatical Design_.

5. In _L'Estranges History_ here _Pag._ 79 and 80. there's every

particular of Mr. _Bedloes_ Evidence in Sir _George Wakemans Tryal,

Pag._ 46. with many other passages over and above: whereas your

_Damnable History_ here _Pag._ 295. falls short at least by One Half.

And then for the _shuffles_, and _Omissions_ reflected upon, _Pag._ 77.

see _L'Estranges Words, Pag._ 88. _The Lord Chief Justice_ (says he)

_after some Remarkes upon the_ Romish Principles, _summ'd up the

Evidence, and gave Directions to the Jury:_ which is the substance of

the _Page_ cited in the _Preface_. Touching your _Elsewhere_, it is in

plain _English, No where_.

6. Look ye, here's more Juggling. He says S E V E R A L _Gross

Incoherences_, and you have made them M A N Y: and then you have left

out the _Parenthesis_, (_especially in the Latter of them_) which varies

the Case too. And I remember again, that the _Erratum_ was supply'd

after _L'Estrange_ had _corrected_ it: And sure it was a Gross one too,

to expose a _Protestant Gentleman_ for a _Papist, Nine times_ in _two

Pages_. I could shew ye several other _Material Mistakes_, but One shall

serve for _all. Pag._ 45. (as I take it) of _Irelands Tryal_; which you

will finde charg'd upon the Press, in _L'Estranges History, Pag._ 18.

7. Pray'e mark me now: _L'Estrange_ findes _Errours_ of the _Press_ in

the _Other Tryals_ and _Rectifies_ them, in his _Own_: Now if Posterity

shall finde in the _Right_, that the _Other_ are _wrong_, they are in no

danger of being _Misled_ by the _One_, in what is _Corrected_ by the

_Other_: And if they do not read the _Right Copy_ at all, there's no

harm done to the Other, but they must take it as they finde it. So that

this _Remark_ is so far from _Disparaging_ the _Proceedings_, that a

greater Right can hardly be done to _Publick Justice_ by a _Pamphlet_.

But now let the _Epistle_ speak for it _self_.

To the READER.

The Epistle to L'Estrange's History of the Plot.

There has not been any point, perhaps, in the whole Tract of _English

Story_, either so dangerous to be mistaken in, or so difficult, and yet

so necessary to be understood, as the Mystery of this detestable _Plot_

now in Agitation. (A Judgement for our Sins, augmented by our Follies,)

But the world is so miserably divided betwixt some that will believe

every thing, and others nothing that not only _Truth_, but

_Christianity_ it self is almost lost between them; and no place left

for Sobriety and Moderation. We are come to govern our selves by Dreams

and Imaginations; We make every _Coffee-house Tale_ an Article of our

Faith; and from Incredible Fables we raise Invincible Arguments. A man

must be fierce and violent to get the Reputation of being

_Well-affected_; as if the calling of one another _Damned Heretique_,

and _Popish Dog_, were the whole Sum of the Controversie. And what's all

this, but the effect of a Popular Licence and Appeal? When every

Mercenary Scribler shall take upon him to handle matters of Faith, and

State; give Laws to Princes; and every Mechanique sit Judge upon the

Government! Were not these the very Circumstances of the late _Times_?

When the Religious Jugglers from all Quarters fell in with the Rabble,

and managed them, as it were, by a certain sleight of hand: The _Rods_

were turned into _Serpents_ on both sides, and the Multitude not able to

say, which was _Aaron_, and which the _Enchanter_. Let us have a Care of

the same Incantation over again, Are we not under the protection of a

Lawfull Authority? Nor was there ever any thing more narrowly Sifted, or

more vigorously discouraged, then this _Conspiracy_. _Reformation_ is

the proper business of _Government_ and _Council_, but when it comes to

work once at the wrong End, there is nothing to be expected from it, but

_Tumult_ and _Convulsion_. A Legal and Effectual provision against the

Danger of _Romish Practices_ and _Errours_, will never serve Their Turn,

whose Quarrel is barely to the _Name_ of _Popery_, without understanding

the Thing it self. And if there were not a _Roman Catholick_ left in the

three Kingdoms, they would be never the better satisfied, for where they

cannot find Popery, they will make it: nay and be troubled too that they

could not _find_ it. It is no new thing for a Popular Outcry, in the

matter of _Religion_, to have a _State-Faction_ in the belly of it. The

first late Clamour was against _Downright Popery_; and then came on

_Popishly Affected_; (_That_ sweeps all.) The _Order of Bishops_, _and

the Discipline of the Church_ took their Turns next; and the next blow

was at the _Crown_ it self; when every Man was made a _Papist_ that

would not play the Knave and the Fool, for Company, with the Common

People.

These things duly weighed, and considering the Ground of our present

Distempers; the Compiler of this Abridgment reckoned that he could not

do his Countrymen a better Office, than (by laying before them the naked

state of things) to give them at one view, a Prospect, both of the

subject matter of their Apprehensions, and of the Vigilance, Zeal, and

needful severity of the Government on their behalf. To which end, he

hath here drawn up an _Historical Abstract_ of the whole matter of Fact

concerning those Persons who have hitherto been Tryed for their Lives,

either upon the _Plot_ it self, or in Relation to it: opposing

Authentick Records to wandring Rumours; and delivering the _Truth_ in

all Simplicity. He hath not omitted any one material Point: There is not

so much as one _Partial Stroke_ in it; not a flourish, nor any thing but

a bare and plain _Collection_, without any Tincture either of Credulity,

or Passion. And it is brought into so narrow a Compass too, that it will

ease the Readers _head_, as well as his _purse_; by clearing him of the

puzzle of _Forms_, and _Interlocutories_. that serve only to amuse and

mislead a man, by breaking the Order, and confounding the Relative parts

of the _Proceeding_.

Having this in Contemplation; and being at the same time possest of a

most exact _Summary_ of all passages here in Question; This Reporter was

only to cast an Extract of these Notes into a Method: especially

finding, that upon comparing the substance of his own papers, with the

most warrantable Prints that have been published; his own _Abstract_

proved to be not only every jot as Correct, but much more Intelligible,

which being _short_ and _full_; he thought might be useful, and find

Credit in the world upon its own account, without need of a _Voucher_.

_L'Estranges_ Narrative Justify'd.

His Adversary detected

A Bold and senceless libel

_True._ You have now the whole matter before you; the _Epistle_, ye see,

justifies it self: And then for the _Narrative_, I dare undertake he

shall yield up the Cause, if you can but produce any _One Material

Point_, which he hath either _Falsify'd_, _Palliated_, or _Omitted_, in

the whole _Proceeding_. But to be plain with you, _Citt_, One of the

_Authours_ of _your Preface_ is a _Common setter_, _a Forger of Hands_,

_a little spy_ upon the _Swan_ in _Fishstreet_; a _Hackny Sollicitor_

against both _Church_ and _State_: You know this to be true _Citt_; and

that I do not speak upon Guess; so that _Calumny_, and _False

Witnessing_ is the best part of that _Authours Trade_. And then the

_pretended History_ is a direct _Arraignment_ of the _Government_. He

takes up the _King_ and _Council_, _Pag._ 381. reflects upon the

_Judges_ in the very _Contents_, and elsewhere; he descants upon the

_Duke of York_ in opposition to the express sense and declaration of the

_Bench_, _Pag._ 145. and has the confidence yet to Dedicate this

_Gally-mawfry_ of audacious _slanders_ to _the Two Houses of

Parliament_. There is little more in the whole, then what has been

eaten and spew'd up again Thirty times over: and the intire work is only

a _Medly_ of _Rags_, and _Solacisms_, pick'd up out of _Rubbish_, and

most suitably put together.

_Citt._ You may take his part as ye please, But there's a Famous

_Lecturer_ charg'd him Publiquely for _Popery_, in his _Answer_ to the

_Appeal_; and for falling upon Dr. _Lloyd_.

_L'Estrange_ charg'd as a Papist, by a Certain Lecturer.

_True._ He did so; but at the same time that _Lecturer_ found no fault

with the _Appeal it self_; and the best on't is, his _Tongue's_ no more

a slander then his _Pen_: And whoever reads what he has written

concerning the _Late King_, and the _Episcopal Church_, will think never

the worse of _L'Estrange_ for what he says. Now for the _Reverend Dean

of Bangor_, I dare say he never _spake_, or _thought_ of him, but with

_Veneration_. Let me see the book.

The Ground of his Accusation.

Look, ye here, 'tis _pag._ 18. in _L'Estrange's Impression_, and 'tis

_pag._ 15. in _this_; and here's the Point [_Their Loyalty and Good

service paid to the King_ (says the _Appealer_ speaking of the Papists)

_was meerly in their own Defence_.] Now see _L'Estrange's Reply_ upon

it, _If it lies_ (says he) _as a_ Reproach _upon them that they did then

not serve the King out of_ Loyalty; _that which they_ did, _was yet

better then_ not serving _him_ at all; _and better in a Higher degree_

still, _then_ Fighting against _him_. And a little after. _It is worth

the Observation, that not a man drew his Sword in the opposite Cause who

was not a_ Known Separatist; _and that on the Other side, not one_

Schismatick _ever struck stroke in the_ Kings Quarrell.

And now for your Notes upon his Answer, they are so silly, that it were

Ridiculous to Reply upon 'um [_who knows_ (says he) _but the Regicides

were Papists in disguise_, _pag._ 19.] And a deal of such senselesse

stuff; enough to turn a bodies Stomach. And if you'd inform your self of

his Malice; look ye here _pag._ 4. _p._ 9. and _p._ 33 how he Palliates,

if not Justifies, the Late Rebellion, the Murther of the Arch-Bishop of

St. _Andrews_, and the drawing of the Sword against the King.

Briefly, 'tis an _Insipid Bawling_ piece of _Foolery_, from One end to

the Other. And it is not but that I highly approve of your _Zeal_ for

the Discovery of the _Plot_, and Suppressing of _Popery_, but we are not

yet to Trample upon _Laws_, and _Publique Orders_, for the attaining

even of those Glorious ends.

But now I think on't; deal freely with me; did you really go to the

_Registers_ ye spake of, to furnish _Names_ for your _Subscriptions_?

_Citt._ No; That was but a _Flourish_: but all the Rest we _Literally_

did.

A gross Cheat upon the Nation.

_True._ Are not you Conscious to your selves of your Iniquities? who

made _You_ a _Commissioner_ for the _Town_, or _You_ for the _Country_?

But we are like to have a fine business of it, when the _Dreggs_ of the

_People_ set up for the _Representatives_ of the _Nation_; to the

Dishonour of the most _Considerable_, and Sober part of the _Kingdome_.

Pre'thee _Bumpkin_, with thy _Poles_, and _Baltiques_, how shouldst thou

come to understand the _Ballance_ of _Empires_? who are _Delinquents_,

and who _not_? the Right of _Bishops Votes_? And _You_ (forsooth) are to

Teach the _King_ when to call a _Parliament_, and when to let it alone.

And are not you a fine Fool i'the mean time, to Drudg for the Faction

that Sets ye on, to be afterwards made a slave for your pains?

Lewd Practises of the Faction.

And then for You, _Citt_, with your _Mouldy Records_, your _Coordinate

Estates_, and your _Sovereign Power of the People_. Do not I know all

your Fallacies, your Shifts, and Hiding-holes? There's not one step you

set, but I can trace you in't: You have your _Spies_ upon all

_Libraries_, as well as _Conversations_; your _Agents_ for the procuring

of old _Manuscripts_, and _Records_, and for the _Falsifying_ of _New

ones_, to make them look like _Old Ones_. Nay, the _Papers_ of _State_

themselves had much ado to scape ye. Those that assert the _Just Rights_

of the _Crown_, you either _Bury_ or _Conceal_; only Publishing the

_Presidents_ of _Seditious Times_, in Vindication of such Principles.

_Citt._ I must confess I take the _Government_ to be _Coordinate_, and

the _King One_ of the _Three Estates_, with submission to be better

inform'd.

Against Coordination.

_True._ If it be so, how comes it that the House of _Commons_ even in

their most Popular seasons, have still own'd the Crown of _England_ to

be _Imperial_? How comes it that all our _Laws_ are call'd the _Kings

Laws_: all our _Courts of Justice_ his _Majesties Courts_, and all

_Publick Causes_ try'd in the _Kings Name_, and by the _Authority_ of

his _Majesty_?

_Citt._ But have not the _Two Houses_ their share in the _Legislative

Power_?

It is the sanction makes the Law, not the Consent.

_True._ You must distinguish betwixt the _Consent_, and the _Sanction_;

the _Preparatory_ Part is _Their's_, the _Stamp_ is the _Kings_: The Two

_Houses_ Consent to a _Bill_; It is only a _Bill_, when it is

_presented_, and it remains yet a _Bill_, even when the King has

_Consented_ to it; and in this _Common Consent_, in Order to a _Law_,

the _Two Houses_ may be said to _share_ with his _Majesty_: But then the

_Fiat_, that superinduces an _Authority_, and is _Only_, and _Properly_

the Act of _Legislation_, is _singly_ in the _King_. So that though they

_share_ in the _Consent_, they have no pretence at all to the

_Sanction_: which is an Act of _Authority_; the other but of

_Agreement_.

The Inconveniences of a Coordination supposed.

And yet again, admitting your _Coordination_; First, every King runs the

hazzard of his Crown upon every Parliament he calls: For _That Third

Estate_ lies at the Mercy of the _Other Two_: And further, 'tis a kinde

of Ringing the Changes with the Government, the _King_ and _Lords_ shall

be Uppermost _One day_, the _King_ and _Commons_, _Another_, and the

_Lords_ and _Commons_, the _Third_: For in this Scale of Constitution

whatsoever the _One_ will _not_, the _Other Two_, _may_.

_Citt._ Well, but Ours is a MIXT Government, and we are a _Free People_.

Of a mixt Government and a Qualify'd.

_True._ If ours be a _Mixt Government_, so as to any _Popular

Participation_ of _Power_ with the _King_, then it is not a _Monarchy_:

(which is the _Government Only_ of _One_) but if you'l call it a

_Qualifi'd Government_; so as to distinguish it from an _Absolute_ and

_Unlimited Government_, I'le agree with you. But let the _Government_ be

_what_ it will, and _where_ it will, let it do _Right_ or _Wrong_, it is

_Equally Unaccountable_, for there lies no _Appeal_, but to a

_Superiour_, and the _Supreme_ has _none_ but _God Himself_.

_Citt._ But if we be a _Free People_, have not _We_ as much _Right_ to

_Our Liberties_, as the _King_ has to _his Crown_?

_True._ Yes, we have, but the King has this Advantage of us, that _We_

may _Forfeit_ our _Liberties_ but _He_ cannot forfeit his _Crown_.

_Citt._ What if a _King_ will Transgresse all the Laws of _God_ and

_Man_? may not the _People_ resume their _Trust_?

Power is from God, not from the People.

Soveraignty of the People most ridiculous.

_True._ No, not unlesse you can produce an expresse _stipulation_ to

_That very purpose_. But let me shew you, First, the Errour of taking

That to be a _Trust_ from the _People_, which, in truth, is an

_Ordinance_ of _Providence_, For _All Power is from God_; And Secondly,

the _Absurdity_ of the very _Supposition_, even in the Case of a Trust

conferr'd by the People. If the _King breaks_ his _Trust_, the _People

Resume_ it: but _who_ are These _People_? If a _Representative_, they

are but _Trustees Themselves_, and may incur a _Forfeiture_ too, by the

same Argument. Where are we next then? For if it devolves to the _Loose

Multitude_ of _Individuals_, (which you will have to be the Fountain of

_Power_) you are Then in an _Anarchy_, without any Government at all;

and There you must either Continue in a _Dissociated State_, or else

agree upon _Uniting_ into some Form of _Regiment_, or other: and whether

it be _Monarchy_, _Aristocracy_, or _Democracy_, it comes all to a

Point. If you make the _Government Accountable_ upon every Humour of the

_People_, it lapses again into a _Confusion_. To say nothing of the

ridiculous phansy of a _Sovereignty_ in the _People_ upon This Account;

that they can never be so brought together either to _Establish_ or to

_Dissolve_ a _Government_, as to authorize it to be the _Peoples Act_.

For there must be, _First_, an _Agreement_ to _Meet_ and _Consult_.

_Secondly_, an _Agreement_ upon the _Result_ of That _Debate_; and any

_One Dissenter_ spoils all, where every _Individuall_ has an _Equall

Right_: So that unlesse the People be all of the same minde, This

Supposition will be found wholly Impractible and Idle.

_Citt._ But is there no Fence then against _Tyranny_?

_True._ Only _Patience_, unless you run into _Anarchy_, and then into

that which you call _Tyranny_ again; and so tread Eternally that Circle

of _Rigour_ and _Confusion_. _In fine_, the Question is this, whether

people had better run _Certainly_ into _Confusion_ to avoid a _Possible

Tyranny_, or venture a _Possible Tyranny_, to avoid a _Certain

Confusion_.

_Citt._ But where we finde _Positive Law_ and _Provisions_ to _fail_ us,

may we not in those Cases, betake our selves to the _Laws_ of _Nature_

and _Self-Preservation_?

Self-preservation is no Plea for the People.

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