The other branch of it is, that in the struggle between the negro and

the crocodile; he is for the negro. Well, I don't know that there is any

struggle between the negro and the crocodile, either. I suppose that if a

crocodile (or, as we old Ohio River boatmen used to call them, alligators)

should come across a white man, he would kill him if he could; and so he

would a negro. But what, at last, is this proposition? I believe it is a

sort of proposition in proportion, which may be stated thus: "As the negro

is to the white man, so is the crocodile to the negro; and as the negro

may rightfully treat the crocodile as a beast or reptile, so the white man

may rightfully treat the negro as a beast or a reptile." That is really

the "knip" of all that argument of his.

Now, my brother Kentuckians, who believe in this, you ought to thank

Judge Douglas for having put that in a much more taking way than any of

yourselves have done.

Again, Douglas's great principle, "popular sovereignty," as he calls it,

gives you, by natural consequence, the revival of the slave trade whenever

you want it. If you question this, listen awhile, consider awhile what I

shall advance in support of that proposition.

He says that it is the sacred right of the man who goes into the

Territories to have slavery if he wants it. Grant that for argument's

sake. Is it not the sacred right of the man who don't go there equally to

buy slaves in Africa, if he wants them? Can you point out the difference?

The man who goes into the Territories of Kansas and Nebraska, or any other

new Territory, with the sacred right of taking a slave there which belongs

to him, would certainly have no more right to take one there than I would,

who own no slave, but who would desire to buy one and take him there. You

will not say you, the friends of Judge Douglas but that the man who

does not own a slave has an equal right to buy one and take him to the

Territory as the other does.

A voice: I want to ask a question. Don't foreign nations interfere with

the slave trade?

Mr. LINCOLN: Well! I understand it to be a principle of Democracy to whip

foreign nations whenever, they interfere with us.

Voice: I only asked for information. I am a Republican myself.

Mr. LINCOLN: You and I will be on the best terms in the world, but I do

not wish to be diverted from the point I was trying to press.

I say that Douglas's popular sovereignty, establishing his sacred right

in the people, if you please, if carried to its logical conclusion gives

equally the sacred right to the people of the States or the Territories

themselves to buy slaves wherever they can buy them cheapest; and if any

man can show a distinction, I should like to hear him try it. If any man

can show how the people of Kansas have a better right to slaves, because

they want them, than the people of Georgia have to buy them in Africa,

I want him to do it. I think it cannot be done. If it is "popular

sovereignty" for the people to have slaves because they want them, it is

popular sovereignty for them to buy them in Africa because they desire to

do so.

I know that Douglas has recently made a little effort, not seeming to

notice that he had a different theory, has made an effort to get rid

of that. He has written a letter, addressed to somebody, I believe, who

resides in Iowa, declaring his opposition to the repeal of the laws that

prohibit the Africa slave trade. He bases his opposition to such repeal

upon the ground that these laws are themselves one of the compromises of

the Constitution of the United States. Now, it would be very interesting

to see Judge Douglas or any of his friends turn, to the Constitution of

the United States and point out that compromise, to show where there is

any compromise in the Constitution, or provision in the Constitution;

express or implied, by which the administrators of that Constitution are

under any obligation to repeal the African slave trade. I know, or at

least I think I know, that the framers of that Constitution did expect

the African slave trade would be abolished at the end of twenty years, to

which time their prohibition against its being abolished extended there

is abundant contemporaneous history to show that the framers of the

Constitution expected it to be abolished. But while they so expected,

they gave nothing for that expectation, and they put no provision in

the Constitution requiring it should be so abolished. The migration or

importation of such persons as the States shall see fit to admit shall not

be prohibited, but a certain tax might be levied upon such importation.

But what was to be done after that time? The Constitution is as silent

about that as it is silent, personally, about myself. There is absolutely

nothing in it about that subject; there is only the expectation of the

framers of the Constitution that the slave trade would be abolished at the

end of that time; and they expected it would be abolished, owing to public

sentiment, before that time; and the put that provision in, in order that

it should not be abolished before that time, for reasons which I suppose

they thought to be sound ones, but which I will not now try to enumerate

before you.

But while, they expected the slave trade would be abolished at that time,

they expected that the spread of slavery into the new Territories should

also be restricted. It is as easy to prove that the framers of the

Constitution of the United States expected that slavery should be

prohibited from extending into the new Territories, as it is to prove

that it was expected that the slave trade should be abolished. Both these

things were expected. One was no more expected than the other, and one was

no more a compromise of the Constitution than the other. There was nothing

said in the Constitution in regard to the spread of slavery into the

Territory. I grant that; but there was something very important said about

it by the same generation of men in the adoption of the old Ordinance of

'87, through the influence of which you here in Ohio, our neighbors in

Indiana, we in Illinois, our neighbors in Michigan and Wisconsin, are

happy, prosperous, teeming millions of free men. That generation of men,

though not to the full extent members of the convention that framed the

Constitution, were to some extent members of that convention, holding

seats at the same time in one body and the other, so that if there was any

compromise on either of these subjects, the strong evidence is that

that compromise was in favor of the restriction of slavery from the new

Territories.

But Douglas says that he is unalterably opposed to the repeal of those

laws because, in his view, it is a compromise of the Constitution. You

Kentuckians, no doubt, are somewhat offended with that. You ought not to

be! You ought to be patient! You ought to know that if he said less than

that, he would lose the power of "lugging" the Northern States to your

support. Really, what you would push him to do would take from him

his entire power to serve you. And you ought to remember how long, by

precedent, Judge Douglas holds himself obliged to stick by compromises.

You ought to remember that by the time you yourselves think you are ready

to inaugurate measures for the revival of the African slave trade, that

sufficient time will have arrived, by precedent, for Judge Douglas to

break through, that compromise. He says now nothing more strong than

he said in 1849 when he declared in favor of Missouri Compromise,--and

precisely four years and a quarter after he declared that Compromise to

be a sacred thing, which "no ruthless hand would ever daze to touch," he

himself brought forward the measure ruthlessly to destroy it. By a mere

calculation of time it will only be four years more until he is ready to

take back his profession about the sacredness of the Compromise abolishing

the slave trade. Precisely as soon as you are ready to have his services

in that direction, by fair calculation, you may be sure of having them.

But you remember and set down to Judge Douglas's debt, or discredit, that

he, last year, said the people of Territories can, in spite of the Dred

Scott decision, exclude your slaves from those Territories; that he

declared, by "unfriendly legislation" the extension of your property into

the new Territories may be cut off, in the teeth of the decision of the

Supreme Court of the United States.

He assumed that position at Freeport on the 27th of August, 1858. He said

that the people of the Territories can exclude slavery, in so many words:

You ought, however, to bear in mind that he has never said it since. You

may hunt in every speech that he has since made, and he has never used

that expression once. He has never seemed to notice that he is stating his

views differently from what he did then; but by some sort of accident, he

has always really stated it differently. He has always since then declared

that "the Constitution does not carry slavery into the Territories of the

United States beyond the power of the people legally to control it, as

other property." Now, there is a difference in the language used upon

that former occasion and in this latter day. There may or may not be a

difference in the meaning, but it is worth while considering whether there

is not also a difference in meaning.

What is it to exclude? Why, it is to drive it out. It is in some way to

put it out of the Territory. It is to force it across the line, or change

its character so that, as property, it is out of existence. But what is

the controlling of it "as other property"? Is controlling it as other

property the same thing as destroying it, or driving it away? I should

think not. I should think the controlling of it as other property would be

just about what you in Kentucky should want. I understand the controlling

of property means the controlling of it for the benefit of the owner of

it. While I have no doubt the Supreme Court of the United States would

say "God speed" to any of the Territorial Legislatures that should thus

control slave property, they would sing quite a different tune if, by

the pretence of controlling it, they were to undertake to pass laws which

virtually excluded it,--and that upon a very well known principle to

all lawyers, that what a Legislature cannot directly do, it cannot do by

indirection; that as the Legislature has not the power to drive slaves

out, they have no power, by indirection, by tax, or by imposing burdens in

any way on that property, to effect the same end, and that any attempt to

do so would be held by the Dred Scott court unconstitutional.

Douglas is not willing to stand by his first proposition that they can

exclude it, because we have seen that that proposition amounts to nothing

more nor less than the naked absurdity that you may lawfully drive out

that which has a lawful right to remain. He admitted at first that the

slave might be lawfully taken into the Territories under the Constitution

of the United States, and yet asserted that he might be lawfully driven

out. That being the proposition, it is the absurdity I have stated. He

is not willing to stand in the face of that direct, naked, and impudent

absurdity; he has, therefore, modified his language into that of being

"controlled as other property."

The Kentuckians don't like this in Douglas! I will tell you where it will

go. He now swears by the court. He was once a leading man in Illinois to

break down a court, because it had made a decision he did not like. But

he now not only swears by the court, the courts having got to working

for you, but he denounces all men that do not swear by the courts,

as unpatriotic, as bad citizens. When one of these acts of unfriendly

legislation shall impose such heavy burdens as to, in effect, destroy

property in slaves in a Territory, and show plainly enough that there

can be no mistake in the purpose of the Legislature to make them

so burdensome, this same Supreme Court will decide that law to be

unconstitutional, and he will be ready to say for your benefit "I swear by

the court; I give it up"; and while that is going on he has been getting

all his men to swear by the courts, and to give it up with him. In this

again he serves you faithfully, and, as I say, more wisely than you serve

yourselves.

Again: I have alluded in the beginning of these remarks to the fact that

Judge Douglas has made great complaint of my having expressed the opinion

that this government "cannot endure permanently, half slave and half

free." He has complained of Seward for using different language, and

declaring that there is an "irrepressible conflict" between the principles

of free and slave labor. [A voice: "He says it is not original with

Seward. That it is original with Lincoln."] I will attend to that

immediately, sir. Since that time, Hickman of Pennsylvania expressed the

same sentiment. He has never denounced Mr. Hickman: why? There is a little

chance, notwithstanding that opinion in the mouth of Hickman, that he may

yet be a Douglas man. That is the difference! It is not unpatriotic to

hold that opinion if a man is a Douglas man.

But neither I, nor Seward, nor Hickman is entitled to the enviable or

unenviable distinction of having first expressed that idea. That same idea

was expressed by the Richmond Enquirer, in Virginia, in 1856,--quite two

years before it was expressed by the first of us. And while Douglas was

pluming himself that in his conflict with my humble self, last year, he

had "squelched out" that fatal heresy, as he delighted to call it, and

had suggested that if he only had had a chance to be in New York and meet

Seward he would have "squelched" it there also, it never occurred to him

to breathe a word against Pryor. I don't think that you can discover that

Douglas ever talked of going to Virginia to "squelch" out that idea there.

No. More than that. That same Roger A. Pryor was brought to Washington

City and made the editor of the par excellence Douglas paper, after making

use of that expression, which, in us, is so unpatriotic and heretical.

From all this, my Kentucky friends may see that this opinion is heretical

in his view only when it is expressed by men suspected of a desire that

the country shall all become free, and not when expressed by those fairly

known to entertain the desire that the whole country shall become slave.

When expressed by that class of men, it is in nowise offensive to him. In

this again, my friends of Kentucky, you have Judge Douglas with you.

There is another reason why you Southern people ought to nominate Douglas

at your convention at Charleston. That reason is the wonderful capacity of

the man,--the power he has of doing what would seem to be impossible. Let

me call your attention to one of these apparently impossible things:

Douglas had three or four very distinguished men of the most extreme

anti-slavery views of any men in the Republican party expressing their

desire for his re-election to the Senate last year. That would, of itself,

have seemed to be a little wonderful; but that wonder is heightened when

we see that Wise of Virginia, a man exactly opposed to them, a man who

believes in the divine right of slavery, was also expressing his desire

that Douglas should be reelected; that another man that may be said to

be kindred to Wise, Mr. Breckinridge, the Vice-President, and of your

own State, was also agreeing with the anti-slavery men in the North that

Douglas ought to be re-elected. Still to heighten the wonder, a senator

from Kentucky, whom I have always loved with an affection as tender

and endearing as I have ever loved any man, who was opposed to the

anti-slavery men for reasons which seemed sufficient to him, and equally

opposed to Wise and Breckinridge, was writing letters into Illinois to

secure the reelection of Douglas. Now, that all these conflicting elements

should be brought, while at daggers' points with one another, to support

him, is a feat that is worthy for you to note and consider. It is quite

probable that each of these classes of men thought, by the re-election of

Douglas, their peculiar views would gain something: it is probable that

the anti-slavery men thought their views would gain something; that Wise

and Breckinridge thought so too, as regards their opinions; that Mr.

Crittenden thought that his views would gain something, although he was

opposed to both these other men. It is probable that each and all of them

thought that they were using Douglas; and it is yet an unsolved problem

whether he was not using them all. If he was, then it is for you to

consider whether that power to perform wonders is one for you lightly to

throw away.

There is one other thing that I will say to you, in this relation. It is

but my opinion, I give it to you without a fee. It is my opinion that it

is for you to take him or be defeated; and that if you do take him you

may be beaten. You will surely be beaten if you do not take him. We, the

Republicans and others forming the opposition of the country, intend to

"stand by our guns," to be patient and firm, and in the long run to beat

you, whether you take him or not. We know that before we fairly beat

you we have to beat you both together. We know that you are "all of a

feather," and that we have to beat you all together, and we expect to

do it. We don't intend to be very impatient about it. We mean to be as

deliberate and calm about it as it is possible to be, but as firm and

resolved as it is possible for men to be. When we do as we say,--beat

you,--you perhaps want to know what we will do with you.

I will tell you, so far as I am authorized to speak for the opposition,

what we mean to do with you. We mean to treat you, as near as we possibly

can, as Washington, Jefferson, and Madison treated you. We mean to leave

you alone, and in no way interfere with your institution; to abide by all

and every compromise of the Constitution, and, in a word, coming back to

the original proposition, to treat you, so far as degenerated men (if we

have degenerated) may, according to the examples of those noble fathers,

Washington, Jefferson, and Madison. We mean to remember that you are

as good as we; that there is no difference between us other than the

difference of circumstances. We mean to recognize and bear in mind always

that you have as good hearts in your bosoms as other people, or as we

claim to have, and treat you accordingly. We mean to marry your girls when

we have a chance, the white ones I mean; and I have the honor to inform

you that I once did have a chance in that way.

I have told you what we mean to do. I want to know, now, when that thing

takes place, what do you mean to do? I often hear it intimated that you

mean to divide the Union whenever a Republican, or anything like it, is

elected President of the United States. [A voice: "That is so."] "That is

so," one of them says; I wonder if he is a Kentuckian? [A voice: "He is

a Douglas man."] Well, then, I want to know what you are going to do with

your half of it? Are you going to split the Ohio down through, and push

your half off a piece? Or are you going to keep it right alongside of us

outrageous fellows? Or are you going to build up a wall some way between

your country and ours, by which that movable property of yours can't come

over here any more, to the danger of your losing it? Do you think you can

better yourselves, on that subject, by leaving us here under no obligation

whatever to return those specimens of your movable property that come

hither? You have divided the Union because we would not do right with you,

as you think, upon that subject; when we cease to be under obligations to

do anything for you, how much better off do you think you will be? Will

you make war upon us and kill us all? Why, gentlemen, I think you are as

gallant and as brave men as live; that you can fight as bravely in a

good cause, man for man, as any other people living; that you have shown

yourselves capable of this upon various occasions: but, man for man, you

are not better than we are, and there are not so many of you as there are

of us. You will never make much of a hand at whipping us. If we were fewer

in numbers than you, I think that you could whip us; if we were equal, it

would likely be a drawn battle; but being inferior in numbers, you will

make nothing by attempting to master us.

But perhaps I have addressed myself as long, or longer, to the Kentuckians

than I ought to have done, inasmuch as I have said that whatever course

you take we intend in the end to beat you. I propose to address a few

remarks to our friends, by way of discussing with them the best means of

keeping that promise that I have in good faith made.

It may appear a little episodical for me to mention the topic of which

I will speak now. It is a favorite position of Douglas's that the

interference of the General Government, through the Ordinance of '87, or

through any other act of the General Government never has made or ever can

make a free State; the Ordinance of '87 did not make free States of

Ohio, Indiana, or Illinois; that these States are free upon his "great

principle" of popular sovereignty, because the people of those several

States have chosen to make them so. At Columbus, and probably here, he

undertook to compliment the people that they themselves have made the

State of Ohio free, and that the Ordinance of '87 was not entitled in any

degree to divide the honor with them. I have no doubt that the people

of the State of Ohio did make her free according to their own will and

judgment, but let the facts be remembered.

In 1802, I believe, it was you who made your first constitution, with

the clause prohibiting slavery, and you did it, I suppose, very nearly

unanimously; but you should bear in mind that you--speaking of you as

one people--that you did so unembarrassed by the actual presence of

the institution amongst you; that you made it a free State not with the

embarrassment upon you of already having among you many slaves, which if

they had been here, and you had sought to make a free State, you would

not know what to do with. If they had been among you, embarrassing

difficulties, most probably, would have induced you to tolerate a slave

constitution instead of a free one, as indeed these very difficulties have

constrained every people on this continent who have adopted slavery.

Pray what was it that made you free? What kept you free? Did you not

find your country free when you came to decide that Ohio should be a free

State? It is important to inquire by what reason you found it so. Let us

take an illustration between the States of Ohio and Kentucky. Kentucky is

separated by this River Ohio, not a mile wide. A portion of Kentucky, by

reason of the course of the Ohio, is farther north than this portion of

Ohio, in which we now stand. Kentucky is entirely covered with slavery;

Ohio is entirely free from it: What made that difference? Was it climate?

No. A portion of Kentucky was farther north than this portion of Ohio.

Was it soil? No. There is nothing in the soil of the one more favorable

to slave than the other. It was not climate or soil that mused one side of

the line to be entirely covered with slavery, and the other side free of

it. What was it? Study over it. Tell us, if you can, in all the range

of conjecture, if there be anything you can conceive of that made that

difference, other than that there was no law of any sort keeping it out of

Kentucky, while the Ordinance of '87 kept it out of Ohio. If there is any

other reason than this, I confess that it is wholly beyond my power to

conceive of it. This, then, I offer to combat the idea that that Ordinance

has never made any State free.

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