When I made my speech at Springfield, of which the Judge complains, and

from which he quotes, I really was not thinking of the things which he

ascribes to me at all. I had no thought in the world that I was doing

anything to bring about a war between the free and slave states. I had no

thought in the world that I was doing anything to bring about a political

and social equality of the black and white races. It never occurred to

me that I was doing anything or favoring anything to reduce to a dead

uniformity all the local institutions of the various States. But I must

say, in all fairness to him, if he thinks I am doing something which leads

to these bad results, it is none the better that I did not mean it. It

is just as fatal to the country, if I have any influence in producing

it, whether I intend it or not. But can it be true that placing this

institution upon the original basis--the basis upon which our fathers

placed it--can have any tendency to set the Northern and the Southern

States at war with one another, or that it can have any tendency to

make the people of Vermont raise sugar-cane, because they raise it in

Louisiana, or that it can compel the people of Illinois to cut pine logs

on the Grand Prairie, where they will not grow, because they cut pine

logs in Maine, where they do grow? The Judge says this is a new principle

started in regard to this question. Does the Judge claim that he is

working on the plan of the founders of government? I think he says in some

of his speeches indeed, I have one here now--that he saw evidence of a

policy to allow slavery to be south of a certain line, while north of

it it should be excluded, and he saw an indisposition on the part of the

country to stand upon that policy, and therefore he set about studying the

subject upon original principles, and upon original principles he got

up the Nebraska Bill! I am fighting it upon these "original principles,"

fighting it in the Jeffersonian, Washingtonian, and Madisonian fashion.

Now, my friends, I wish you to attend for a little while to one or two

other things in that Springfield speech. My main object was to show, so

far as my humble ability was capable of showing, to the people of this

country what I believed was the truth,--that there was a tendency, if not

a conspiracy, among those who have engineered this slavery question for

the last four or five years, to make slavery perpetual and universal in

this nation. Having made that speech principally for that object, after

arranging the evidences that I thought tended to prove my proposition, I

concluded with this bit of comment:

"We cannot absolutely know that these exact adaptations are the result of

preconcert; but when we see a lot of framed timbers, different portions of

which we know have been gotten out at different times and places, and by

different workmen--Stephen, Franklin, Roger, and James, for instance,--and

when we see these timbers joined together, and see they exactly make the

frame of a house or a mill, all the tenons and mortises exactly fitting,

and all the lengths and proportions of the different pieces exactly

adapted to their respective places, and not a piece too many or too

few,--not omitting even the scaffolding,--or if a single piece be lacking,

we see the place in the frame exactly fitted and prepared yet to bring

such piece in,--in such a case we feel it impossible not to believe that

Stephen and Franklin and Roger and James all understood one another from

the beginning, and all worked upon a common plan or draft drawn before the

first blow was struck."

When my friend Judge Douglas came to Chicago on the 9th of July, this

speech having been delivered on the 16th of June, he made an harangue

there, in which he took hold of this speech of mine, showing that he had

carefully read it; and while he paid no attention to this matter at all,

but complimented me as being a "kind, amiable, and intelligent gentleman,"

notwithstanding I had said this, he goes on and eliminates, or draws out,

from my speech this tendency of mine to set the States at war with one

another, to make all the institutions uniform, and set the niggers and

white people to marrying together. Then, as the Judge had complimented me

with these pleasant titles (I must confess to my weakness), I was a little

"taken," for it came from a great man. I was not very much accustomed to

flattery, and it came the sweeter to me. I was rather like the Hoosier,

with the gingerbread, when he said he reckoned he loved it better than any

other man, and got less of it. As the Judge had so flattered me, I could

not make up my mind that he meant to deal unfairly with me; so I went to

work to show him that he misunderstood the whole scope of my speech, and

that I really never intended to set the people at war with one another. As

an illustration, the next time I met him, which was at Springfield, I used

this expression, that I claimed no right under the Constitution, nor had

I any inclination, to enter into the slave States and interfere with the

institutions of slavery. He says upon that: Lincoln will not enter into

the slave States, but will go to the banks of the Ohio, on this side,

and shoot over! He runs on, step by step, in the horse-chestnut style of

argument, until in the Springfield speech he says: "Unless he shall

be successful in firing his batteries until he shall have extinguished

slavery in all the States the Union shall be dissolved." Now, I don't

think that was exactly the way to treat "a kind, amiable, intelligent

gentleman." I know if I had asked the Judge to show when or where it was

I had said that, if I didn't succeed in firing into the slave States until

slavery should be extinguished, the Union should be dissolved, he could

not have shown it. I understand what he would do. He would say: I don't

mean to quote from you, but this was the result of what you say. But I

have the right to ask, and I do ask now, Did you not put it in such a form

that an ordinary reader or listener would take it as an expression from

me?

In a speech at Springfield, on the night of the 17th, I thought I might as

well attend to my own business a little, and I recalled his attention as

well as I could to this charge of conspiracy to nationalize slavery. I

called his attention to the fact that he had acknowledged in my hearing

twice that he had carefully read the speech, and, in the language of the

lawyers, as he had twice read the speech, and still had put in no plea

or answer, I took a default on him. I insisted that I had a right then

to renew that charge of conspiracy. Ten days afterward I met the Judge

at Clinton,--that is to say, I was on the ground, but not in the

discussion,--and heard him make a speech. Then he comes in with his plea

to this charge, for the first time; and his plea when put in, as well as I

can recollect it, amounted to this: that he never had any talk with Judge

Taney or the President of the United States with regard to the Dred Scott

decision before it was made. I (Lincoln) ought to know that the man who

makes a charge without knowing it to be true falsifies as much as he who

knowingly tells a falsehood; and, lastly, that he would pronounce the

whole thing a falsehood; but, he would make no personal application of

the charge of falsehood, not because of any regard for the "kind, amiable,

intelligent gentleman," but because of his own personal self-respect! I

have understood since then (but [turning to Judge Douglas] will not hold

the Judge to it if he is not willing) that he has broken through the

"self-respect," and has got to saying the thing out. The Judge nods to me

that it is so. It is fortunate for me that I can keep as good-humored as I

do, when the Judge acknowledges that he has been trying to make a question

of veracity with me. I know the Judge is a great man, while I am only a

small man, but I feel that I have got him. I demur to that plea. I waive

all objections that it was not filed till after default was taken, and

demur to it upon the merits. What if Judge Douglas never did talk with

Chief Justice Taney and the President before the Dred Scott decision

was made, does it follow that he could not have had as perfect an

understanding without talking as with it? I am not disposed to stand upon

my legal advantage. I am disposed to take his denial as being like an

answer in chancery, that he neither had any knowledge, information, or

belief in the existence of such a conspiracy. I am disposed to take his

answer as being as broad as though he had put it in these words. And now,

I ask, even if he had done so, have not I a right to prove it on him, and

to offer the evidence of more than two witnesses, by whom to prove it; and

if the evidence proves the existence of the conspiracy, does his broader

answer denying all knowledge, information, or belief, disturb the fact?

It can only show that he was used by conspirators, and was not a leader of

them.

Now, in regard to his reminding me of the moral rule that persons who tell

what they do not know to be true falsify as much as those who knowingly

tell falsehoods. I remember the rule, and it must be borne in mind that

in what I have read to you, I do not say that I know such a conspiracy

to exist. To that I reply, I believe it. If the Judge says that I do not

believe it, then he says what he does not know, and falls within his

own rule, that he who asserts a thing which he does not know to be true,

falsifies as much as he who knowingly tells a falsehood. I want to call

your attention to a little discussion on that branch of the case, and the

evidence which brought my mind to the conclusion which I expressed as

my belief. If, in arraying that evidence I had stated anything which was

false or erroneous, it needed but that Judge Douglas should point it out,

and I would have taken it back, with all the kindness in the world. I do

not deal in that way. If I have brought forward anything not a fact, if he

will point it out, it will not even ruffle me to take it back. But if he

will not point out anything erroneous in the evidence, is it not rather

for him to show, by a comparison of the evidence, that I have reasoned

falsely, than to call the "kind, amiable, intelligent gentleman" a liar?

If I have reasoned to a false conclusion, it is the vocation of an

able debater to show by argument that I have wandered to an erroneous

conclusion. I want to ask your attention to a portion of the Nebraska

Bill, which Judge Douglas has quoted:

"It being the true intent and meaning of this Act, not to

legislate slavery into any Territory or State, nor to exclude it

therefrom, but to leave the people thereof perfectly free to form and

regulate their domestic institutions in their own way, subject only to the

Constitution of the United States."

Thereupon Judge Douglas and others began to argue in favor of "popular

sovereignty," the right of the people to have slaves if they wanted

them, and to exclude slavery if they did not want them. "But," said,

in substance, a Senator from Ohio (Mr. Chase, I believe), "we more than

suspect that you do not mean to allow the people to exclude slavery if

they wish to; and if you do mean it, accept an amendment which I propose,

expressly authorizing the people to exclude slavery."

I believe I have the amendment here before me, which was offered, and

under which the people of the Territory, through their representatives,

might, if they saw fit, prohibit the existence of slavery therein. And now

I state it as a fact, to be taken back if there is any mistake about it,

that Judge Douglas and those acting with him voted that amendment down. I

now think that those men who voted it down had a real reason for doing

so. They know what that reason was. It looks to us, since we have seen the

Dred Scott decision pronounced, holding that "under the Constitution" the

people cannot exclude slavery, I say it looks to outsiders, poor, simple,

"amiable, intelligent gentlemen," as though the niche was left as a place

to put that Dred Scott decision in,--a niche which would have been spoiled

by adopting the amendment. And now, I say again, if this was not the

reason, it will avail the Judge much more to calmly and good-humoredly

point out to these people what that other reason was for voting the

amendment down, than, swelling himself up, to vociferate that he may be

provoked to call somebody a liar.

Again: There is in that same quotation from the Nebraska Bill this clause:

"It being the true intent and meaning of this bill not to legislate

slavery into any Territory or State." I have always been puzzled to know

what business the word "State" had in that connection. Judge Douglas

knows. He put it there. He knows what he put it there for. We outsiders

cannot say what he put it there for. The law they were passing was not

about States, and was not making provisions for States. What was it placed

there for? After seeing the Dred Scott decision, which holds that the

people cannot exclude slavery from a Territory, if another Dred Scott

decision shall come, holding that they cannot exclude it from a State, we

shall discover that when the word was originally put there, it was in view

of something which was to come in due time, we shall see that it was the

other half of something. I now say again, if there is any different

reason for putting it there, Judge Douglas, in a good-humored way, without

calling anybody a liar, can tell what the reason was.

When the Judge spoke at Clinton, he came very near making a charge of

falsehood against me. He used, as I found it printed in a newspaper,

which, I remember, was very nearly like the real speech, the following

language:

"I did not answer the charge [of conspiracy] before, for the reason that

I did not suppose there was a man in America with a heart so corrupt as

to believe such a charge could be true. I have too much respect for Mr.

Lincoln to suppose he is serious in making the charge."

I confess this is rather a curious view, that out of respect for me he

should consider I was making what I deemed rather a grave charge in fun.

I confess it strikes me rather strangely. But I let it pass. As the Judge

did not for a moment believe that there was a man in America whose heart

was so "corrupt" as to make such a charge, and as he places me among the

"men in America" who have hearts base enough to make such a charge, I hope

he will excuse me if I hunt out another charge very like this; and if it

should turn out that in hunting I should find that other, and it

should turn out to be Judge Douglas himself who made it, I hope he will

reconsider this question of the deep corruption of heart he has thought

fit to ascribe to me. In Judge Douglas's speech of March 22, 1858, which I

hold in my hand, he says:

"In this connection there is another topic to which I desire to allude.

I seldom refer to the course of newspapers, or notice the articles which

they publish in regard to myself; but the course of the Washington Union

has been so extraordinary for the last two or three months, that I think

it well enough to make some allusion to it. It has read me out of the

Democratic party every other day, at least for two or three months, and

keeps reading me out, and, as if it had not succeeded, still continues to

read me out, using such terms as 'traitor,' 'renegade,' 'deserter,' and

other kind and polite epithets of that nature. Sir, I have no vindication

to make of my Democracy against the Washington Union, or any other

newspapers. I am willing to allow my history and action for the last

twenty years to speak for themselves as to my political principles and

my fidelity to political obligations. The Washington Union has a personal

grievance. When its editor was nominated for public printer, I declined

to vote for him, and stated that at some time I might give my reasons for

doing so. Since I declined to give that vote, this scurrilous abuse, these

vindictive and constant attacks have been repeated almost daily on me.

Will any friend from Michigan read the article to which I allude?"

This is a part of the speech. You must excuse me from reading the entire

article of the Washington Union, as Mr. Stuart read it for Mr. Douglas.

The Judge goes on and sums up, as I think, correctly:

"Mr. President, you here find several distinct propositions

advanced boldly by the Washington Union editorially, and apparently

authoritatively; and any man who questions any of them is denounced as an

Abolitionist, a Free-soiler, a fanatic. The propositions are, first, that

the primary object of all government at its original institution is the

protection of person and property; second, that the Constitution of the

United States declares that the citizens of each State shall be entitled

to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several States;

and that, therefore, thirdly, all State laws, whether organic or

otherwise, which prohibit the citizens of one State from settling in

another with their slave property, and especially declaring it forfeited,

are direct violations of the original intention of the government and

Constitution of the United States; and, fourth, that the emancipation of

the slaves of the Northern States was a gross outrage of the rights of

property, inasmuch as it was involuntarily done on the part of the owner.

"Remember that this article was published in the Union on the 17th of

November, and on the 18th appeared the first article giving the adhesion

of the Union, to the Lecompton Constitution. It was in these words:

"KANSAS AND HER CONSTITUTION.--The vexed question is settled. The problem

is saved. The dead point of danger is passed. All serious trouble to

Kansas affairs is over and gone..."

And a column nearly of the same sort. Then, when you come to look into

the Lecompton Constitution, you find the same doctrine incorporated in it

which was put forth editorially in the Union. What is it?

"ARTICLE 7, Section I. The right of property is before and higher than

any constitutional sanction; and the right of the owner of a slave to such

slave and its increase is the same and as inviolable as the right of the

owner of any property whatever."

Then in the schedule is a provision that the Constitution may be amended

after 1864 by a two-thirds vote:

"But no alteration shall be made to affect the right of property in the

ownership of slaves."

"It will be seen by these clauses in the Lecompton Constitution that they

are identical in spirit with the authoritative article in the Washington

Union of the day previous to its indorsement of this Constitution."

I pass over some portions of the speech, and I hope that any one who feels

interested in this matter will read the entire section of the speech, and

see whether I do the Judge injustice. He proceeds:

"When I saw that article in the Union of the 17th of November, followed by

the glorification of the Lecompton Constitution on the 10th of November,

and this clause in the Constitution asserting the doctrine that a State

has no right to prohibit slavery within its limits, I saw that there was a

fatal blow being struck at the sovereignty of the States of this Union."

I stop the quotation there, again requesting that it may all be read. I

have read all of the portion I desire to comment upon. What is this charge

that the Judge thinks I must have a very corrupt heart to make? It was a

purpose on the part of certain high functionaries to make it impossible

for the people of one State to prohibit the people of any other State from

entering it with their "property," so called, and making it a slave State.

In other words, it was a charge implying a design to make the institution

of slavery national. And now I ask your attention to what Judge Douglas

has himself done here. I know he made that part of the speech as a reason

why he had refused to vote for a certain man for public printer; but when

we get at it, the charge itself is the very one I made against him, that

he thinks I am so corrupt for uttering. Now, whom does he make that charge

against? Does he make it against that newspaper editor merely? No; he

says it is identical in spirit with the Lecompton Constitution, and so

the framers of that Constitution are brought in with the editor of

the newspaper in that "fatal blow being struck." He did not call it a

"conspiracy." In his language, it is a "fatal blow being struck." And if

the words carry the meaning better when changed from a "conspiracy" into a

"fatal blow being struck," I will change my expression, and call it "fatal

blow being struck." We see the charge made not merely against the editor

of the Union, but all the framers of the Lecompton Constitution; and not

only so, but the article was an authoritative article. By whose authority?

Is there any question but he means it was by the authority of the

President and his Cabinet,--the Administration?

Is there any sort of question but he means to make that charge? Then there

are the editors of the Union, the framers of the Lecompton Constitution,

the President of the United States and his Cabinet, and all the supporters

of the Lecompton Constitution, in Congress and out of Congress, who

are all involved in this "fatal blow being struck." I commend to Judge

Douglas's consideration the question of how corrupt a man's heart must be

to make such a charge!

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