Mr. Lincoln referred to some official documents emanating from Indiana,

and compared the progressive population of the two States. Illinois

had gained upon that State under the public land system as it is. His

conclusion was that ten years from this time Illinois would have no more

public land unsold than Indiana now has. He referred also to Ohio. That

State had sold nearly all her public lands. She was but twenty years

ahead of us, and as our lands were equally salable--more so, as he

maintained--we should have no more twenty years from now than she has at

present.

Mr. Lincoln referred to the canal lands, and supposed that the policy of

the State would be different in regard to them, if the representatives

from that section of country could themselves choose the policy; but the

representatives from other parts of the State had a veto upon it, and

regulated the policy. He thought that if the State had all the lands,

the policy of the Legislature would be more liberal to all sections.

He referred to the policy of the General Government. He thought that

if the national debt had not been paid, the expenses of the government

would not have doubled, as they had done since that debt was paid.

TO ------ ROW.

SPRINGFIELD, June 11, 1839 DEAR ROW:

Mr. Redman informs me that you wish me to write you the particulars of

a conversation between Dr. Felix and myself relative to you. The Dr.

overtook me between Rushville and Beardstown.

He, after learning that I had lived at Springfield, asked if I was

acquainted with you. I told him I was. He said you had lately been

elected constable in Adams, but that you never would be again. I asked

him why. He said the people there had found out that you had been

sheriff or deputy sheriff in Sangamon County, and that you came off and

left your securities to suffer. He then asked me if I did not know such

to be the fact. I told him I did not think you had ever been sheriff or

deputy sheriff in Sangamon, but that I thought you had been constable. I

further told him that if you had left your securities to suffer in that

or any other case, I had never heard of it, and that if it had been so,

I thought I would have heard of it.

If the Dr. is telling that I told him anything against you whatever, I

authorize you to contradict it flatly. We have no news here.

Your friend, as ever, A. LINCOLN.

SPEECH ON NATIONAL BANK

IN THE HALL OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

SPRINGFIELD, ILLINOIS, December 20, 1839.

FELLOW-CITIZENS:--It is peculiarly embarrassing to me to attempt a

continuance of the discussion, on this evening, which has been conducted

in this hall on several preceding ones. It is so because on each of

those evenings there was a much fuller attendance than now, without any

reason for its being so, except the greater interest the community feel

in the speakers who addressed them then than they do in him who is to do

so now. I am, indeed, apprehensive that the few who have attended

have done so more to spare me mortification than in the hope of being

interested in anything I may be able to say. This circumstance casts

a damp upon my spirits, which I am sure I shall be unable to overcome

during the evening. But enough of preface.

The subject heretofore and now to be discussed is the subtreasury scheme

of the present administration, as a means of collecting, safe-keeping,

transferring, and disbursing, the revenues of the nation, as contrasted

with a national bank for the same purposes. Mr. Douglas has said that we

(the Whigs) have not dared to meet them (the Locos) in argument on this

question. I protest against this assertion. I assert that we have again

and again, during this discussion, urged facts and arguments against

the subtreasury which they have neither dared to deny nor attempted to

answer. But lest some may be led to believe that we really wish to avoid

the question, I now propose, in my humble way, to urge those arguments

again; at the same time begging the audience to mark well the positions

I shall take and the proof I shall offer to sustain them, and that they

will not again permit Mr. Douglas or his friends to escape the force of

them by a round and groundless assertion that we "dare not meet them in

argument."

Of the subtreasury, then, as contrasted with a national bank for the

before-enumerated purposes, I lay down the following propositions, to

wit: (1) It will injuriously affect the community by its operation on

the circulating medium. (2) It will be a more expensive fiscal agent.

(3) It will be a less secure depository of the public money. To show

the truth of the first proposition, let us take a short review of our

condition under the operation of a national bank. It was the depository

of the public revenues. Between the collection of those revenues and the

disbursement of them by the government, the bank was permitted to and

did actually loan them out to individuals, and hence the large amount of

money actually collected for revenue purposes, which by any other

plan would have been idle a great portion of the time, was kept almost

constantly in circulation. Any person who will reflect that money is

only valuable while in circulation will readily perceive that any device

which will keep the government revenues in constant circulation, instead

of being locked up in idleness, is no inconsiderable advantage. By the

subtreasury the revenue is to be collected and kept in iron boxes until

the government wants it for disbursement; thus robbing the people of the

use of it, while the government does not itself need it, and while the

money is performing no nobler office than that of rusting in iron boxes.

The natural effect of this change of policy, every one will see, is

to reduce the quantity of money in circulation. But, again, by

the subtreasury scheme the revenue is to be collected in specie. I

anticipate that this will be disputed. I expect to hear it said that

it is not the policy of the administration to collect the revenue

in specie. If it shall, I reply that Mr. Van Buren, in his message

recommending the subtreasury, expended nearly a column of that document

in an attempt to persuade Congress to provide for the collection of the

revenue in specie exclusively; and he concludes with these words:

"It may be safely assumed that no motive of convenience to the citizens

requires the reception of bank paper." In addition to this, Mr.

Silas Wright, Senator from New York, and the political, personal and

confidential friend of Mr. Van Buren, drafted and introduced into the

Senate the first subtreasury bill, and that bill provided for ultimately

collecting the revenue in specie. It is true, I know, that that clause

was stricken from the bill, but it was done by the votes of the Whigs,

aided by a portion only of the Van Buren senators. No subtreasury

bill has yet become a law, though two or three have been considered by

Congress, some with and some without the specie clause; so that I

admit there is room for quibbling upon the question of whether the

administration favor the exclusive specie doctrine or not; but I take it

that the fact that the President at first urged the specie doctrine,

and that under his recommendation the first bill introduced embraced it,

warrants us in charging it as the policy of the party until their head

as publicly recants it as he at first espoused it. I repeat, then, that

by the subtreasury the revenue is to be collected in specie. Now mark

what the effect of this must be. By all estimates ever made there are

but between sixty and eighty millions of specie in the United States.

The expenditures of the Government for the year 1838--the last for which

we have had the report--were forty millions. Thus it is seen that if the

whole revenue be collected in specie, it will take more than half of all

the specie in the nation to do it. By this means more than half of all

the specie belonging to the fifteen millions of souls who compose the

whole population of the country is thrown into the hands of the public

office-holders, and other public creditors comprising in number perhaps

not more than one quarter of a million, leaving the other fourteen

millions and three quarters to get along as they best can, with less

than one half of the specie of the country, and whatever rags and

shinplasters they may be able to put, and keep, in circulation. By

this means, every office-holder and other public creditor may, and

most likely will, set up shaver; and a most glorious harvest will the

specie-men have of it,--each specie-man, upon a fair division, having to

his share the fleecing of about fifty-nine rag-men. In all candor let me

ask, was such a system for benefiting the few at the expense of the many

ever before devised? And was the sacred name of Democracy ever before

made to indorse such an enormity against the rights of the people?

I have already said that the subtreasury will reduce the quantity of

money in circulation. This position is strengthened by the recollection

that the revenue is to be collected in Specie, so that the mere amount

of revenue is not all that is withdrawn, but the amount of paper

circulation that the forty millions would serve as a basis to is

withdrawn, which would be in a sound state at least one hundred

millions. When one hundred millions, or more, of the circulation we

now have shall be withdrawn, who can contemplate without terror the

distress, ruin, bankruptcy, and beggary that must follow? The man

who has purchased any article--say a horse--on credit, at one hundred

dollars, when there are two hundred millions circulating in the country,

if the quantity be reduced to one hundred millions by the arrival of

pay-day, will find the horse but sufficient to pay half the debt; and

the other half must either be paid out of his other means, and thereby

become a clear loss to him, or go unpaid, and thereby become a clear

loss to his creditor. What I have here said of a single case of the

purchase of a horse will hold good in every case of a debt existing at

the time a reduction in the quantity of money occurs, by whomsoever, and

for whatsoever, it may have been contracted. It may be said that

what the debtor loses the creditor gains by this operation; but on

examination this will be found true only to a very limited extent. It is

more generally true that all lose by it--the creditor by losing more of

his debts than he gains by the increased value of those he collects; the

debtor by either parting with more of his property to pay his debts

than he received in contracting them, or by entirely breaking up his

business, and thereby being thrown upon the world in idleness.

The general distress thus created will, to be sure, be temporary,

because, whatever change may occur in the quantity of money in any

community, time will adjust the derangement produced; but while that

adjustment is progressing, all suffer more or less, and very many lose

everything that renders life desirable. Why, then, shall we suffer a

severe difficulty, even though it be but temporary, unless we receive

some equivalent for it?

What I have been saying as to the effect produced by a reduction of the

quantity of money relates to the whole country. I now propose to

show that it would produce a peculiar and permanent hardship upon the

citizens of those States and Territories in which the public lands lie.

The land-offices in those States and Territories, as all know, form the

great gulf by which all, or nearly all, the money in them is swallowed

up. When the quantity of money shall be reduced, and consequently

everything under individual control brought down in proportion, the

price of those lands, being fixed by law, will remain as now. Of

necessity it will follow that the produce or labor that now raises money

sufficient to purchase eighty acres will then raise but sufficient

to purchase forty, or perhaps not that much; and this difficulty and

hardship will last as long, in some degree, as any portion of these

lands shall remain undisposed of. Knowing, as I well do, the difficulty

that poor people now encounter in procuring homes, I hesitate not to say

that when the price of the public lands shall be doubled or trebled, or,

which is the same thing, produce and labor cut down to one half or one

third of their present prices, it will be little less than impossible

for them to procure those homes at all....

Well, then, what did become of him? (Postmaster General Barry) Why, the

President immediately expressed his high disapprobation of his almost

unequaled incapacity and corruption by appointing him to a foreign

mission, with a salary and outfit of $18,000 a year! The party now

attempt to throw Barry off, and to avoid the responsibility of his sins.

Did not the President indorse those sins when, on the very heel of

their commission, he appointed their author to the very highest and most

honorable office in his gift, and which is but a single step behind the

very goal of American political ambition?

I return to another of Mr. Douglas's excuses for the expenditures of

1838, at the same time announcing the pleasing intelligence that this is

the last one. He says that ten millions of that year's expenditure was

a contingent appropriation, to prosecute an anticipated war with Great

Britain on the Maine boundary question. Few words will settle this.

First, that the ten millions appropriated was not made till 1839, and

consequently could not have been expended in 1838; second, although it

was appropriated, it has never been expended at all. Those who heard Mr.

Douglas recollect that he indulged himself in a contemptuous expression

of pity for me. "Now he's got me," thought I. But when he went on to

say that five millions of the expenditure of 1838 were payments of the

French indemnities, which I knew to be untrue; that five millions had

been for the post-office, which I knew to be untrue; that ten millions

had been for the Maine boundary war, which I not only knew to be untrue,

but supremely ridiculous also; and when I saw that he was stupid enough

to hope that I would permit such groundless and audacious assertions to

go unexposed,--I readily consented that, on the score both of veracity

and sagacity, the audience should judge whether he or I were the more

deserving of the world's contempt.

Mr. Lamborn insists that the difference between the Van Buren party and

the Whigs is that, although the former sometimes err in practice,

they are always correct in principle, whereas the latter are wrong in

principle; and, better to impress this proposition, he uses a figurative

expression in these words: "The Democrats are vulnerable in the heel,

but they are sound in the head and the heart." The first branch of the

figure--that is, that the Democrats are vulnerable in the heel--I admit

is not merely figuratively, but literally true. Who that looks but for

a moment at their Swartwouts, their Prices, their Harringtons, and their

hundreds of others, scampering away with the public money to Texas, to

Europe, and to every spot of the earth where a villain may hope to find

refuge from justice, can at all doubt that they are most distressingly

affected in their heels with a species of "running itch"? It seems

that this malady of their heels operates on these sound-headed and

honest-hearted creatures very much like the cork leg in the comic song

did on its owner: which, when he had once got started on it, the more he

tried to stop it, the more it would run away. At the hazard of wearing

this point threadbare, I will relate an anecdote which seems too

strikingly in point to be omitted. A witty Irish soldier, who was always

boasting of his bravery when no danger was near, but who invariably

retreated without orders at the first charge of an engagement, being

asked by his captain why he did so, replied: "Captain, I have as brave a

heart as Julius Caesar ever had; but, somehow or other, whenever

danger approaches, my cowardly legs will run away with it." So with Mr.

Lamborn's party. They take the public money into their hand for the

most laudable purpose that wise heads and honest hearts can dictate; but

before they can possibly get it out again, their rascally "vulnerable

heels" will run away with them.

Seriously this proposition of Mr. Lamborn is nothing more or less than

a request that his party may be tried by their professions instead of

their practices. Perhaps no position that the party assumes is more

liable to or more deserving of exposure than this very modest request;

and nothing but the unwarrantable length to which I have already

extended these remarks forbids me now attempting to expose it. For the

reason given, I pass it by.

I shall advert to but one more point. Mr. Lamborn refers to the late

elections in the States, and from their results confidently predicts

that every State in the Union will vote for Mr. Van Buren at the next

Presidential election. Address that argument to cowards and to knaves;

with the free and the brave it will effect nothing. It may be true; if

it must, let it. Many free countries have lost their liberty, and ours

may lose hers; but if she shall, be it my proudest plume, not that I was

the last to desert, but that I never deserted her. I know that the great

volcano at Washington, aroused and directed by the evil spirit that

reigns there, is belching forth the lava of political corruption in a

current broad and deep, which is sweeping with frightful velocity

over the whole length and breadth of the land, bidding fair to leave

unscathed no green spot or living thing; while on its bosom are riding,

like demons on the waves of hell, the imps of that evil spirit, and

fiendishly taunting all those who dare resist its destroying course with

the hopelessness of their effort; and, knowing this, I cannot deny that

all may be swept away. Broken by it I, too, may be; bow to it I never

will. The probability that we may fall in the struggle ought not to

deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just; it shall not

deter me. If ever I feel the soul within me elevate and expand to those

dimensions not wholly unworthy of its almighty Architect, it is when I

contemplate the cause of my country deserted by all the world beside,

and I standing up boldly and alone, and hurling defiance at her

victorious oppressors. Here, without contemplating consequences, before

high heaven and in the face of the world, I swear eternal fidelity to

the just cause, as I deem it, of the land of my life, my liberty, and

my love. And who that thinks with me will not fearlessly adopt the oath

that I take? Let none falter who thinks he is right, and we may succeed.

But if, after all, we shall fail, be it so. We still shall have the

proud consolation of saying to our consciences, and to the departed

shade of our country's freedom, that the cause approved of our judgment,

and adored of our hearts, in disaster, in chains, in torture, in death,

we never faltered in defending.

TO JOHN T. STUART.

SPRINGFIELD, December 23, 1839.

DEAR STUART:

Dr. Henry will write you all the political news. I write this about some

little matters of business. You recollect you told me you had drawn the

Chicago Masark money, and sent it to the claimants. A hawk-billed Yankee

is here besetting me at every turn I take, saying that Robert Kinzie

never received the eighty dollars to which he was entitled. Can you tell

me anything about the matter? Again, old Mr. Wright, who lives up South

Fork somewhere, is teasing me continually about some deeds which he says

he left with you, but which I can find nothing of. Can you tell me where

they are? The Legislature is in session and has suffered the bank to

forfeit its charter without benefit of clergy. There seems to be little

disposition to resuscitate it.

Whenever a letter comes from you to Mrs.____________ I carry it to her,

and then I see Betty; she is a tolerable nice "fellow" now. Maybe I will

write again when I get more time.

Your friend as ever, A. LINCOLN

P. S.--The Democratic giant is here, but he is not much worth talking

about. A.L.

1840

CIRCULAR FROM WHIG COMMITTEE.

Confidential.

January [1?], 1840.

To MESSRS ------

GENTLEMEN:--In obedience to a resolution of the Whig State convention,

we have appointed you the Central Whig Committee of your county. The

trust confided to you will be one of watchfulness and labor; but we hope

the glory of having contributed to the overthrow of the corrupt powers

that now control our beloved country will be a sufficient reward for the

time and labor you will devote to it. Our Whig brethren throughout the

Union have met in convention, and after due deliberation and

mutual concessions have elected candidates for the Presidency and

Vice-Presidency not only worthy of our cause, but worthy of the support

of every true patriot who would have our country redeemed, and her

institutions honestly and faithfully administered. To overthrow the

trained bands that are opposed to us whose salaried officers are ever

on the watch, and whose misguided followers are ever ready to obey their

smallest commands, every Whig must not only know his duty, but must

firmly resolve, whatever of time and labor it may cost, boldly and

faithfully to do it. Our intention is to organize the whole State, so

that every Whig can be brought to the polls in the coming Presidential

contest. We cannot do this, however, without your co-operation; and

as we do our duty, so we shall expect you to do yours. After due

deliberation, the following is the plan of organization, and the duties

required of each county committee:

(1) To divide their county into small districts, and to appoint in each

a subcommittee, whose duty it shall be to make a perfect list of all the

voters in their respective districts, and to ascertain with certainty

for whom they will vote. If they meet with men who are doubtful as to

the man they will support, such voters should be designated in separate

lines, with the name of the man they will probably support.

(2) It will be the duty of said subcommittee to keep a constant watch on

the doubtful voters, and from time to time have them talked to by those

in whom they have the most confidence, and also to place in their hands

such documents as will enlighten and influence them.

(3) It will also be their duty to report to you, at least once a month,

the progress they are making, and on election days see that every Whig

is brought to the polls.

(4) The subcommittees should be appointed immediately; and by the last

of April, at least, they should make their first report.

(5) On the first of each month hereafter we shall expect to hear from

you. After the first report of your subcommittees, unless there should

be found a great many doubtful voters, you can tell pretty accurately

the manner in which your county will vote. In each of your letters to

us, you will state the number of certain votes both for and against us,

as well as the number of doubtful votes, with your opinion of the manner

in which they will be cast.

(6) When we have heard from all the counties, we shall be able to

tell with similar accuracy the political complexion of the State. This

information will be forwarded to you as soon as received.

(7) Inclosed is a prospectus for a newspaper to be continued until after

the Presidential election. It will be superintended by ourselves, and

every Whig in the State must take it. It will be published so low that

every one can afford it. You must raise a fund and forward us for extra

copies,--every county ought to send--fifty or one hundred dollars,--and

the copies will be forwarded to you for distribution among our political

opponents. The paper will be devoted exclusively to the great cause

in which we are engaged. Procure subscriptions, and forward them to us

immediately.

(8) Immediately after any election in your county, you must inform us of

its results; and as early as possible after any general election we will

give you the like information.

(9) A senator in Congress is to be elected by our next Legislature. Let

no local interests divide you, but select candidates that can succeed.

(10) Our plan of operations will of course be concealed from every one

except our good friends who of right ought to know them.

Trusting much in our good cause, the strength of our candidates, and

the determination of the Whigs everywhere to do their duty, we go to

the work of organization in this State confident of success. We have

the numbers, and if properly organized and exerted, with the gallant

Harrison at our head, we shall meet our foes and conquer them in all

parts of the Union.

Address your letters to Dr. A. G. Henry, R. F, Barrett; A. Lincoln, E.

D. Baker, J. F. Speed.

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