He was silent for a minute, and then he said: "Do you believe in God?"

"I hardly know," I said. "Not very much, I am afraid, in the kind of God

that I have heard preached about."

"What do you mean?" he said.

"Well," I said, "it's rather a large question--but I used to think, both at

school and at Oxford, that many of the men who were rather disapproved of,

that did quite bad things, and tried experiments, and knocked up against

nastiness of various kinds, but who were brave in their way and kind, and

not mean or spiteful or fault-finding, were more the sort of people that

the force--or whatever it is, behind the world--was trying to produce than

many of the virtuous people. What was called virtue and piety had something

stifling and choking about it, I used to think. I had a tutor at school who

was a parson, and he was a good sort of man, too, in a way. But I used to

feel suddenly dreary with him, as if there were a whole lot of real things

and interesting things which he was afraid of. I couldn't say what I

thought to him--only what I felt he wanted me to think. That's a bad

answer," I went on, "but I haven't really considered it."

"No, it isn't a bad answer," he said, "It's all right! The moment you feel

stifled with anyone, whatever the subject is--art, books, religion,

life--there is something wrong. Do you say any prayers?"

"No," I said, "to be honest, I don't."

"You must take to it again," he said. "You can't get on without prayer. And

if you come here," he said, "you may expect to hear about God. I talk a

good deal about God. I don't believe in things being too sacred to talk

about--it's the bad things that ought not to be mentioned. I am interested

in God, more than I am interested in anything else. I can't make Him

out--and yet I believe that He needs me, in a way, as much as I need Him.

Does that sound profane to you?"

"No," I said, "it's new to me. No one ever spoke about God to me like that

before."

"We have to suffer with Him!" he said in a curious tone, his face lighting

up. "That is the point of Christianity, that God suffers, because He wants

to remake the world, and cannot do it all at once. That is the secret of

all life and hope, that if we believe in God, we must suffer with Him. It's

a fight, a hard fight; and He needs us on His side: But I won't talk about

that now; yet if you don't want to believe in God, and to be friends with

Him, and to fight and suffer with Him, you needn't think of coming here.

That's behind all I do. And to come here is simply that you may find out

where He needs you. Why writing is important is, because the world needs

freer and plainer talk about God--about beauty and health and happiness and

energy, and all the things which He stands for. Half the evil comes from

silence, and the end of all my experiments is the word in the New

Testament, Ephphatha--Be opened! That is what I try for, to give men the

power of opening their hearts and minds to others, without fear and yet

without offence. I don't want men to attack things or to criticise things,

but just to speak plainly about what is beautiful and wholesome and true.

So you see this isn't a place for lazy and fanciful people--not a fortress

of quiet, and still less a place for asses to slake their thirst! We don't

set out to amuse ourselves, but to perceive things, and to say them if we

can. My men must be sound and serious, and they must be civil and amusing

too. They have got to learn how to get on with each other, and with me, and

with the village people--and with God! If you want just to dangle about,

this isn't the place for you; but if you want to work hard and be knocked

into shape, I'll consider it."

There was something tremendous about Father Payne! I looked at him with a

sense of terror. His face dissolved in a smile. "You needn't look at me

like that!" he said. "I only want you to know exactly what you are in for!"

"I would like to try," I said.

"Well, we'll see!" he said. "And now you must be off!" he added. "We shall

dine in an hour--you needn't dress. Here, you don't know which your room

is, I suppose?"

He rang the bell, and I went off with the old butler, who was amiable and

communicative. "So, you think of becoming one of the gentlemen, sir?" he

said. "If you'll have me," I replied. "Oh, that will be all right, sir," he

said. "I could see that the Father took to you at first sight!"

He showed me my room--a big bare place. It had a small bed and accessories,

but it was also fitted as a sitting-room, with a writing-table, an

armchair, and a bookcase full of books. The house was warmed, I saw, with

hot water to a comfortable temperature. "Would you like a fire?" he said. I

declined, and he went on: "Now if you lived here, sir, you would have to do

that yourself!" He gave a little laugh. "Anyone may have a fire, but they

have to lay it, and fetch the coal, and clean the grate. Very few of the

gentlemen do it. Anything else, sir? I have put out your things, and you

will find hot water laid on."

He left me, and I flung myself into the chair. I had a good deal to think

about.

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