THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

MONDAY, November 2, 1812.

This being the day appointed by law for the meeting of Congress, the

following members of the House of Representatives appeared, and took

their seats, to wit:

_From New Hampshire_--Samuel Dinsmoor, Obed Hall, and John A.

Harper.

_From Massachusetts_--Abijah Bigelow, Elijah Brigham, Richard

Cutts, Wm. Ely, Isaiah L. Green, Ebenezer Seaver, William M.

Richardson, Charles Turner, jr., Laban Wheaton, Leonard White,

Wm. Widgery.

_From Rhode Island_--Richard Jackson, jr.

_From Connecticut_--Epaphroditus Champion, John Davenport, jr.,

Lyman Law, and Jonathan O. Mosely.

_From Vermont_--Martin Chittenden, Wm. Strong.

_From New York_--Daniel Avery, Harmanus Bleecker, James Emott,

Asa Fitch, Sam. L. Mitchill, Benjamin Pond, Thomas Sammons,

Pierre Van Cortlandt, jr.

_From New Jersey_--Adam Boyd, Lewis Condict, Jacob Hufty, and

Thomas Newbold.

_From Pennsylvania_--Wm. Anderson, David Bard, Robert Brown,

William Crawford, William Findlay, Abner Lacock, Aaron Lyle,

Jonathan Roberts, Wm. Rodman, Adam Seybert, John Smilie, Geo.

Smith, and Robert Whitehill.

_From Maryland_--Stevenson Archer, Charles Goldsborough, Joseph

Kent, Philip B. Key, Peter Little, Alexander McKim, Samuel

Ringgold, Philip Stuart, and Robert Wright.

_From Virginia_--John Baker, Burwell Bassett, Matthew Clay,

John Dawson, Thomas Gholson, Peterson Goodwyn, Aylett Hawes,

Joseph Lewis, jr., William McCoy, Hugh Nelson, Thomas Newton,

James Pleasants, jr., and John Roane.

_From North Carolina_--Willis Alston, jr., William Blackledge,

Meshack Franklin, Nathaniel Macon, Archibald McBryde, and

Joseph Pearson.

_From South Carolina_--William Butler, John C. Calhoun, Elias

Earle, William Lowndes, Thos. Moore, and Richard Wynn.

_From Georgia_--William W. Bibb, Geo. M. Troup.

_From Kentucky_--Henry Clay, _Speaker_, Joseph Desha, and

Stephen Ormsby.

_From Tennessee_--Felix Grundy, John Rhea, and John Sevier.

_From Ohio_--Jeremiah Morrow.

_From Indiana Territory_--Jona. Jennings, _Delegate_.

A quorum, consisting of a majority of the whole House, being present,

it was ordered that the Clerk do acquaint the Senate therewith.

On motion of Mr. DAWSON, a committee was appointed on the part of the

House, jointly with such committee as may be appointed on the part of

the Senate, to wait on the President of the United States, and inform

him that a quorum of the two Houses is assembled, and ready to receive

any communication he may be pleased to make to them.

Mr. DAWSON and Mr. BLEECKER were appointed the committee on the part of

the House.

TUESDAY, November 3.

Several other members, to wit: From Massachusetts, FRANCIS CARR; from

Connecticut, TIMOTHY PITKIN, jr.; from Vermont, SAMUEL SHAW; from New

York, ARUNAH METCALF, SILAS STOW, and URI TRACY; from Pennsylvania,

JOHN M. HYNEMAN; from Virginia, JOHN SMITH, and THOMAS WILSON; from

North Carolina, RICHARD STANFORD; from S. Carolina, LANGDON CHEVES, and

DAVID R. WILLIAMS; and, from Kentucky, RICHARD M. JOHNSON, appeared,

and took their seats.

A message from the Senate informed the House that a quorum of the

Senate is assembled, and ready to proceed to business. They have

appointed a committee on their part, jointly with the committee on

the part of this House, to inform the President of the United States

that a quorum of the two Houses is assembled, and ready to receive any

communications he may be pleased to make to them.

Mr. DAWSON, from the joint committee appointed to wait on the President

of the United States, reported that the committee had performed the

service assigned to them, and that the President answered that he would

make a communication to the two Houses of Congress to-morrow at 12

o'clock.

And then the House adjourned.

WEDNESDAY, November 4.

Several other members, to wit: From Vermont, JAMES FISK; from North

Carolina, WM. R. KING and ISRAEL PICKENS; from Georgia, BOLLING HALL;

and from Kentucky, ANTHONY NEW, appeared, and took their seats.

A Message was received from the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. [For

which, see Senate proceedings of this date, _ante_, page 567.]

The Message having been read was referred, with the documents

accompanying it, to the Committee of the whole House on the state of

the Union.

THURSDAY, November 5.

_Constitution and the Guerriere._

Mr. DAWSON rose and said:--Mr. Speaker, I take this early moment

to present to you a resolution which I feel pleasure and pride in

believing will meet the general approbation, not only of this House,

but of the nation.

The President of the United States, in his Message, which was read on

yesterday, has, in terms eloquent and appropriate, made mention of an

engagement which has taken place between an American frigate and one of

His Britannic Majesty's, which has rendered to the officers and crew of

our frigate that justice which they so justly merited; an engagement in

which American tars have proven to the world, that when commanded by

officers of skill, valor, and fidelity, they are capable of contending

with, and of vanquishing, those of any nation on the earth, upon

any element--even on that element where British skill has so justly

acquired so much celebrity, and that the American flag, when authorized

by the constituted authorities of our country, will command respect

on the high road of nations. Far, very far be it from me to boast--it

ill becomes an individual or a nation, and is never the concomitant of

true courage; but on the present occasion it seems to me proper that we

should express our sentiments--our feelings, and thereby the feelings

of the nation. I shall, therefore, without further comment, offer you

the following resolution, observing that the facts stated have been

ascertained at the proper department, and the proofs are on my table:

_Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the

United States of America in Congress assembled_, That the

President of the United States be, and he is hereby, requested

to present, in the name of Congress, to Captain Isaac Hull,

a gold medal, with suitable emblems and devices; and that

the sum of ---- thousand dollars be, and the same is hereby,

appropriated, to be distributed as prize money to the officers

and crew of the United States' frigate the Constitution, of

forty-four guns, according to the provisions of the act for

the better government of the Navy of the United States; in

testimony of the high sense entertained by Congress of the

gallantry, good conduct, and services of Captain Hull, the

officers, and crew, of the said frigate Constitution, in

attacking, vanquishing, and capturing the British frigate

the Guerriere, mounting fifty-four carriage guns, thereby

exhibiting an example highly honorable to the American

character, and instructive to our rising Navy.

Some conversation passed on the proper mode of disposing of this

subject, in the course of which

Mr. SEYBERT suggested the propriety of also giving some distinctive

or medals to the crew of the Constitution, who he thought were too

generally overlooked in such cases.

Mr. WRIGHT approved the spirit of the resolution, but hoped the other

officers would receive swords, and the men suitable rewards; and

confidently hoped a gold medal would be voted to the nearest relative

of Lieutenant William Bush of the marines, a young gentleman from his

district, who fell gallantly fighting in that action, covered with

wounds and glory; he, therefore, for that purpose, moved that the

resolution be referred to a select committee.

The resolution was eventually ordered to lie on the table till a

committee should be appointed to whom it should be referred.

FRIDAY, November 6.

Several other members, to wit: from New Jersey, GEORGE C. MAXWELL; from

Massachusetts, EZEKIEL BACON; from Connecticut, LEWIS B. STURGES; and

from Pennsylvania, JAMES MILNOR, appeared, and took their seats.

GEORGE POINDEXTER, the Delegate from the Mississippi Territory, also

appeared, and took his seat.

MONDAY, November 9.

Several other members, to wit: from Massachusetts, SAMUEL TAGGART; from

Connecticut, BENJAMIN TALLMADGE; from New York, EBENEZER SAGE, and

THOMAS R. GOLD; from Pennsylvania, ROGER DAVIS; from Delaware, HENRY M.

RIDGELY; and from Virginia, JOHN TALIAFERRO, appeared, and took their

seats.

_Encouragement to Privateers._

Mr. MITCHILL presented a petition of sundry owners and agents of

privateers in the city of New York, praying for a reduction of the

duties on prizes and prize goods; that prize property, on condemnation,

may be delivered to them to be disposed of and distributed; that the

time necessary to procure condemnations may be shortened; that the

fees of the officers of prize courts may be limited to a certain sum,

and that prize owners and their agents be authorized to order prizes

arrived in one port to any other port, at their discretion, at any time

before the actual libelling of such prizes.

_Exemption of Soldiers from Arrest for Debt._

Mr. BACON stated that, under the present law, exempting from arrest of

privates in the Army of the United States in certain cases of debt,

frauds had been, and more extensively might be, committed; inasmuch

as a soldier who was tired of the service, by giving his bond for a

feigned debt for an amount greater than twenty dollars, could procure

himself to be arrested and kept out of service, &c. Mr. B. further

illustrated the evasions to which the present law is liable, and

concluded by moving the following resolution:

_Resolved_, That the Committee on Military Affairs be

instructed to inquire into the expediency of providing by law

for exempting altogether from liability to arrest, or being

taken in execution for debt, of any non-commissioned officer,

musician, or private, belonging to the Army of the United

States, or to any volunteer corps, when called into service

pursuant to to law.

The resolution was agreed to.

TUESDAY, November 10.

Another member, to wit, from Virginia, JAMES BRECKENRIDGE, appeared,

and took his seat.

_Mounted Troops._

Mr. RICHARD M. JOHNSON observed that he had draughted a resolution for

the consideration of the House, the object of which was to authorize

an expedition of mounted volunteers against the several Indian tribes

hostile to the United States. He said the people of the United States

had the power and the will to break up and to extirpate those hostile

savages, to desolate their country, or compel them to surrender at

discretion, as the Miamies had done lately when they beheld the strong

arm of the Government uplifted and ready to fall upon them heavily. And

it was the imperious duty of Congress so to organize this power, and so

to direct this will, as to make it effectual and most destructive to

the enemy in the line of its operation. Mr. J. said a winter campaign

of mounted men well selected, well organized, and well conducted for

sixty days, would close an Indian war, which was restrained on their

part by no ties of religion, by no rules of morality, by no suggestions

of mercy, by no principles of humanity. Sir, said he, you well know

that we cannot so guard any part of our extended line of frontier as

to prevent entirely the incursions of savages, so long as they have a

place of safety or hiding place upon our borders; by reason of which

a few desperate savages, well armed with their rifles, tomahawks, and

scalping knives, and paid for the scalps of our citizens, may travel in

the night, watch their place of assassination undiscovered, and fall

upon our infant settlements thus exposed and massacre them without

distinction of age or sex, and not leave even an infant to lisp the sad

tale of sorrow to the passing stranger. Such has been the fact in many

places on our frontier since the battle of Tippecanoe; and such was the

melancholy fact near the Ohio river, in Indiana, when upwards of twenty

persons were horribly murdered in cold blood, without the opportunity

of resistance; the most of these unfortunate victims were women and

children, whose heads were roasted by the fire, and in this cruel mode

tortured to death, and under circumstances which would blacken and dye

with deeper disgrace the most infamous and abandoned set of beings on

earth. Since the defeat of Braddock, Mr. J. observed, the conflict

with the Indians had always been an unequal one, and the United States

had never carried on such a campaign against them as would bring them

to their reason. He observed, that a winter campaign of mounted men

would place us on an equality in our contest with the Indians; and he

pledged himself for the efficacy of such an expedition, if sanctioned

and authorized by Congress, and left to the Executive of Kentucky,

so far as the forces were taken from that State. On such a campaign

they must meet us in battle, or surrender at discretion; they could

not avoid our search nor evade our pursuit--the season would furnish

certain means of discovery; their strongholds would be broken up; their

squaws and children would fall into our hands, and remain sure pledges

against savage ferocity and barbarity. Nothing do they so much fear as

to have their squaws taken prisoners. Their winter quarters would be

discovered and their stock of winter provisions would be destroyed;

and once since the Revolution the friend of his country would enjoy

the satisfaction of seeing our savage enemies humbled in the dust and

solely at our mercy, notwithstanding all the arts of British intrigue

to the contrary. On the contrary, we want no additional evidence, no

train of reasoning, nor a particular detail of facts, to convince us

that any other kind of force, and at any other period, will only give

us a partial remedy. Upon any other principle we give the savage foe

every advantage. When threatened and pursued by a force sufficient

to chastise them, no warriors can be found--they scatter through the

woods like the wild beasts of the forest. Send a small party, and

they are immediately surrounded and cut off by superior numbers. In

fact, sir, they will not meet at their own doors and firesides equal

numbers in honorable combat--they must always have some great and

decided advantage. In the several attacks made upon Fort Wayne, Fort

Harrison, and Bellevue--at which places our officers and soldiers acted

with a firmness and gallantry deserving the highest praises of their

country--the Indians retreated at the approach of assistance, and could

not be found. We witnessed the same scene when our army penetrated

their country from Fort Wayne, who burnt their towns and destroyed

their crops. In short, sir, late in the spring, in the summer, and in

the fall, every thicket, every swamp--nay, every brush-heap surrounded

with weeds furnishes a hiding place; and it is in vain to search after

Indians at such a time, if they are not disposed to be seen. Mr. J.

said, with this imperfect picture before us, which, however, contained

undeniable facts, Congress could not reconcile it to its duty not to

take such steps as would speedily terminate the war with the savages.

Such steps had been taken as to produce much temporary distress among

the Pottawatamies and other tribes, and the destruction of their

villages and crops would employ many of their warriors in procuring

subsistence for their squaws and children, which consequently gave

a correspondent relief to our frontier settlements; that a winter

campaign well conducted was indispensable to complete the work which

was begun with so much zeal, but which could not produce all the

benefit that might be expected from a regular authorized expedition;

for it would be recollected that the mounted men had gone out suddenly

upon the spur of the occasion, without compensation, with a view

to relieve the frontiers from the disasters of Hull's humiliating

surrender; and in such voluntary associations many men would consider

themselves under less obligations than if employed by the Government,

although the party with whom he had the honor to act served beyond

the time for which they enrolled themselves, and never quitted the

service until honorably discharged. Mr. J. observed, if the savages are

unmindful of the many acts of benevolence, of justice and friendship

exercised towards them by the United States; if British influence, or

British gold, or any other consideration, could induce them to continue

the savage practice of imbruing their hands alike in the blood of the

warrior in the field, and the infant in its mother's arms; if they

will be bound by no obligation however sacred; by no treaty, however

solemnly made; by no dictate of nature, no matter how self-evident; the

United States are absolved from all acts of further forbearance; and

we are called upon by every feeling of duty and honor to disarm them

of their fury and put them beyond the power of injury. Mr. J. said he

had not intended to trouble the House with so many preliminary remarks,

but he had seen in his place the Chairman of the committee to whom the

resolution was to be referred, and he was anxious that the design and

object of the motion should be known, that the committee might act with

despatch if it met with their views:

_Resolved_, That the select committee to whom was referred so

much of the President's Message as relates to military affairs,

be instructed to inquire into the expediency of authorizing

an expedition of mounted volunteers against the Indian tribes

hostile to the United States.

The resolution was agreed to _nem. con._, without debate.

THURSDAY, November 12.

Another member, to wit, from Kentucky, SAMUEL MCKEE, appeared and took

his seat.

FRIDAY, November 13.

Several other members, to wit: from New York, THOMAS B. COOKE; from

New Jersey, JAMES MORGAN; from Virginia, JOHN RANDOLPH; and from North

Carolina, LEMUEL SAWYER, appeared, and took their seats.

MONDAY, November 16.

Several other members, to wit: from Massachusetts, WILLIAM REED; from

Rhode Island, ELISHA R. POTTER; from Virginia, DANIEL SHEFFEY; from

North Carolina, JAMES COCHRAN; from South Carolina, RICHARD WYNN,

appeared, and took their seats.

TUESDAY, November 17.

_Encouragement to Privateers._

Mr. BASSETT, from the committee appointed on that part of the

President's Message which relates to the Naval Establishment, reported,

in part, a bill in addition to the act concerning letters of marque,

prizes, and prize goods; which was read twice, and committed to a

Committee of the Whole to-morrow.

The bill is as follows:

A Bill in addition to the act concerning letters of

marque, prizes, and prize goods.

_Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of

the United States of America in Congress assembled_, That all

prize property, upon sentence of condemnation, shall, at the

request of the owners of the private armed vessel by which

the capture shall have been made, or of their agents, be, by

the marshal of the district in whose custody the same may be,

delivered over to the said owners or their agents, to be by

them sold or disposed of at their discretion, and the proceeds

thereof distributed by them agreeably to the provisions of

law: _Provided_, That all fees, costs, and charges, arising

on the process of condemnation, be first paid, and that the

duties accruing on such prize goods, as also two per cent. on

the estimated value of such prize property, after deducting

all duties, costs, and charges, (which value, as it respects

the cargo, shall be ascertained in the same manner as is

provided by law for ascertaining the value of goods subject

to ad valorem duties; and as it respects the vessel, to be

ascertained by appraisers to be appointed in the same manner,)

shall be first paid, or secured to be paid, to the collector of

the district into which such prize property may be brought for

condemnation; which two per cent. shall be in lieu of the two

per cent. on the net amount of the prize money reserved by the

seventh section of the act to which this act is in addition,

and shall be pledged and appropriated to the same fund as is

thereby provided for.

SEC. 2. _And be it further enacted_, That all bonds taken for

the security of the two per cent. fund before provided for

shall be made payable within sixty days from the time of taking

such bonds.

SEC. 3. _And be it further enacted_, That the owners of any

private armed vessel or vessels, or their agents, may, at any

time before a libel shall be filed against any captured vessel

or her cargo, remove the same from any port into which it may

be first brought, to any other port in the United States,

subject to the same restrictions, and complying with the same

regulations, with respect to the payment of duties, which are

provided by law in relation to other vessels arriving in port

with cargoes subject to duty: _Provided_, That before such

removal the said captured property shall not have been attached

at the suit of any adverse claimant, or a claim against the

same have been interposed in behalf of the United States.

SEC. 4. _And be it further enacted_, That wherever the proceeds

of any prize property has been, or shall be, deposited with the

clerk of any district court, pursuant to the orders of said

court, upon condemnation, the same shall, at the request of the

owners of the private armed vessel by which the capture shall

have been made, or of their agents, be paid over to them, to be

by them distributed agreeably to the provisions of law.

WEDNESDAY, November 18.

Another member, to wit, JOSIAH QUINCY, from Massachusetts, appeared,

and took his seat.

THURSDAY, November 19.

_Privateer Prize Law._

The House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on the bill in

addition to the act concerning prizes and prize goods.

Mr. BASSETT, as chairman of the committee who reported the bill,

explained its provisions, and enforced the necessity of its adoption.

He took occasion to advert to the numerous captures made by our private

armed vessels, and their utility as a system of annoyance to the enemy.

In every case in which they had come in conflict, they had acquitted

themselves in a manner that redounded to their credit.

After some further conversation on the details of the bill, the

following section was, on motion of Mr. BACON, substituted for the

fourth section of the bill:

"SEC. 4. _And be it further enacted_, That in cases of sale

of prize property by the marshal of any district, or wherever

the proceeds thereof has been or shall be deposited with the

clerk of any district court, pursuant to the orders of said

court upon condemnation, the same shall, by the said marshal or

clerk respectively, at the request of the owners of the private

armed vessel by which the capture shall have been made, or of

their agents, be paid over to them, to be by them distributed

agreeably to the provisions of law: _Provided_, That all fees,

costs, and charges, arising on condemnation, be first paid, and

all duties accruing on such prize property, as also the two per

cent. fund accruing on such proceeds, be first paid, or secured

to be paid, to the collector of the district into which such

prize may be brought for condemnation, and that the marshal

and clerk shall be allowed for their services respectively, in

selling, receiving, and paying over as aforesaid, a commission

of one per cent. and no more, on the net proceeds of such prize

property, after deducting the duties, the two per cent. and

charges aforesaid: _Provided, also_, That such commission shall

not exceed, upon any property included in one condemnation, the

sum of one thousand dollars."

The bill as thus amended was then ordered to be engrossed for a third

reading.

_Retaliation._

The engrossed bill "vesting the power of retaliation in the President

of the United States in certain cases," was read a third time.

A debate of more than an hour took place on the question of its

passage, which was finally determined _in the negative_, by yeas and

nays--51 to 61.

FRIDAY, November 20.

_Pay of the Army._

The House went into Committee of the Whole on the bill concerning the

pay of the Army of the United States, which was read.

Mr. WILLIAMS, as chairman of the committee who reported it, rose to

explain the provisions of the bill. He said he hoped the consideration

of the bill would not involve a discussion of the justice or necessity

of the war. War, said he, is now declared; we have thrown ourselves

between our country and the enemy; and it becomes us to carry her

triumphantly through the war, or be responsible for the disgrace a

contrary course would incur. The reason of the introduction of the

first provision of the bill, he said, was the palpable fact, that the

present pay of the Army, taking into consideration the price of labor

throughout the Union, was much below the average rate. The committee,

in the investigations of this business, had, with much labor, consulted

all sources of information accessible to them, and in no part of the

United States did it appear to be conceded by their Representatives,

that the fair price of labor was less than nine dollars per month.

Even if the price was as low as eight, or say seven dollars, wherefore

should the soldier receive less than any other man? This is a subject

on which every gentleman could decide by recurring to his own

neighborhood, and inquiring, what was there the price of labor. If he

could not procure the service of an individual there for less than

eight dollars, how can he refuse the soldier that price which I now

solicit for him? The ranks are not filled; we know it by too melancholy

a proof; and it is our duty to fill them. How shall we best do it? It

will not be contended that your population is insufficient; no, sir;

the inducement is not adequate. There is no avocation of life, no

employment, however hazardous, which fails to be pursued from a want of

persons ready to engage in it. No, sir; if you want men to scale the

mountains of ice under the Northern pole, or endure the fervid rays

of a vertical sun in the hither India, to brave the stormy ocean, or

search for mines in the bowels of the earth; only find them adequate

compensation, and there are men enough to be found. The compensation

for services performed, ought always to be in proportion to the risk

incurred. This is a position which cannot be controverted. There is no

reason why the ranks of your Army are not filled so forcible, as that

you do not give enough to the privates.

Mr. W. then briefly adverted to other provisions of the bill. To the

second section he apprehended little objection; it had been found to

be necessary, and ample precedent might be found for it. To the third

section there might and probably would be some objection. It was

founded, he said, on the principle that every man owed to the country

which protected him, military service; the same principle, already

engrafted in our laws, which obliged the youth of 18 years old to

enter into the militia, warranted his retention in the service when

he had voluntarily enlisted. The fourth section spoke for itself and

needed no explanation.

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