appear, that the House itself and the gentleman from Rhode Island had
been as inconsistent as himself. He would appeal to the gentleman
whether it was more honorable to desert his duty and fly a vote, than to
act as he had done?
Mr. HUGER said it was unnecessary at this time to take into view the old
arguments that had been urged. The proposition of the gentleman from
Tennessee, for an equestrian statue, was the only one he should notice.
So impressed was he with the inadequacy of a common statue to express
the gratitude of America, that he would rather have nothing done, than
to have what was done in this backhanded way.
He was disposed to treat with respect the acts of the old Congress. But
the act, to which the gentleman from Tennessee had alluded, and which he
wished this House exclusively to carry into effect, was passed in
reference to the military exploits of Gen. WASHINGTON, because, at the
time it was passed, his life had been most characterized by them. Since
that period circumstances had changed. If we are bound by the acts of
the old Congress, are we not equally bound by those of the last session?
If you adopt the ideas of the gentleman, do you not hold out the
Commander-in-chief of the American Army as deserving a splendid
monument, and the father of the constitution and other great civil acts
as deserving nothing?
Without any concert whatever, a remarkable concurrence had taken place
between West, Trumbull, and other respectable artists, who all gave an
unequivocal preference to a mausoleum; which, in his opinion, would be
far less expensive than a statue. The expense of the latter, as would
appear from an estimate in the office of the Secretary of State, could
not be less than forty thousand guineas, deliverable at Paris; and when
the additional charges of transportation, insurance, and other
incidental expenses, were considered, he was persuaded it could not be
completed for less than two or three hundred thousand dollars.
Mr. J. C. SMITH considered the Government as pledged to do that which
they had promised, and which the national feeling required.
Mr. RANDOLPH must consider the present as a tedious and useless debate.
The gentleman had declared the Government to be pledged. To whom were
they pledged, and for what? It was to the relics of the deceased; to
have them placed within these walls. For this, there were the strongest
reasons, as such a measure would be agreeable to the venerable lady to
whom he had been united. If then they were so pledged, why violate this
pledge, by referring the business to the Secretary of State, of the
Treasury, of War, and of the Navy; though what connection there was
between the office of the Secretary of the Navy and the performance of
the trust, he could not tell?
One consideration with him was insuperable. The departure from the
original plan tended, unjustly, and most cruelly, (however pure the
intention,) to violate the feelings of a lady, so much troubled already.
Mr. J. C. SMITH said it had been declared by some gentlemen that the
reputation of WASHINGTON might be safely confided to the record of
history. Was it the opinion of those gentlemen that the record was to be
found in the charge of murder against that illustrious character? Was it
to be found in the patriotic effusions of men who had pronounced all
expressions of national gratitude a mockery of woe, and had declared
that it was high time for those who were the sincere apostles of liberty
to be done with such foolery; or was it to be found in the denunciations
of a printer, supported by a State that perpetually boasted its regard
to Republicanism?
Mr. HARPER could not but regret that a gentleman, who possessed so
lively a regret for the venerable lady alluded to, should have exhibited
in this discussion so glaring a contrast between his professions and his
actions, by introducing that lady into the debate, and indelicately
expressing her wishes, in reference to the place where the relics of her
deceased partner should be deposited. Was it conceivable that to her the
place could be of any importance? Or was it possible that this House
could be enslaved by the trifling circumstance of the _locus in quo_, or
that the paltry consideration attending an action of trespass could be
gravely introduced into such a debate. All that this venerable lady says
amounts to this, that, accustomed from the example of her deceased
friend to obey the national wishes, she submitted to that disposition of
his remains that Congress may make. Shall we, then, in violation of the
plain meaning of her words, enter into whispers of hearsay respecting
wishes, which, from his knowledge of her good sense, he was persuaded
had never been uttered?
Mr. RANDOLPH rose to explain. He had neither said, nor intended to say,
that he possessed any knowledge beside that which appeared on the
journals; and from that knowledge he was justified in saying that Mrs.
WASHINGTON'S compliance, as expressed by her, was not with any public
will that might be expressed, but with that will which had been already
expressed. Whatever insinuations the gentleman from South Carolina may
mean to convey, his feelings of respect for every woman were sacred; nor
were they limited to that sex alone. He was not disposed on this
occasion to take the advice of the gentleman, who judging me by his own
heart, said Mr. R., may imagine me capable of disrespect to the sex.
Mr. HARPER wished the gentleman would avoid any further interruption,
and reserve his remarks until he was done. He did not know, nor was he
concerned to inquire into the motives of the gentleman from Virginia.
Such inquiry would, of all others, be the least profitable or
interesting, either to the House or to himself. Neither had he any idea
of giving advice which that gentleman would follow. He well knew that it
was the most hopeless of all things to give advice to one whose own
sense of propriety did not tell him what was right. Those, who were
incapable of receiving lessons from their own minds or feelings, were
not likely to receive them from any other quarter.
The feelings ascribed to Mrs. WASHINGTON were unfounded. The lady was
incapable of entering into trifling disputes about place or time, such
as the House had this day witnessed.
The arguments, by which the superiority of a statue to a mausoleum was
attempted to be established, were fallacious. The form and features of
our illustrious friend would be preserved without the erection of any
statue by us. Pictures by celebrated artists were every where multiplied
and caught at with avidity; and the sculptor and the painter will be
employed unceasingly to keep pace with the increasing demand. Likenesses
may be found every where, and as perfect on the other side of the
Atlantic as on this.
A mausoleum would last for ages, and would present the same imperishable
appearance two thousand years hence, that it would now. Whereas a statue
would only remain until some civil convulsion, or foreign invasion, or
flagitious conqueror, or lawless mob, should dash it into atoms; or till
some invading barbarian should transport it as a trophy of his guilt to
a foreign shore.
I have beheld, said Mr. H., a monument erected to a man, once considered
as the patron of America, defaced, mutilated, its head broken off,
prostrated with the ground. A statue, erected by the Legislature of
Virginia to perpetuate the virtues of a man to future ages, had been
destroyed.
Besides, a statue was minute, trivial, and perishable. It was a
monument erected to all that crowd of estimable but subordinate
personages, that soar in a region, elevated indeed above common
character, but which was infinitely below that occupied by WASHINGTON.
The greatest honor which this country ever has received, the greatest
honor which it ever could receive, was derived from numbering with its
sons the immortal WASHINGTON.
Shall then a mistaken spirit of economy, and a still more mistaken
jealousy arrest us? Honor him, it is true, we cannot. The world has
charged itself with that task. Posterity, as long as the world shall
endure, will celebrate his virtues and his talents; those virtues and
talents of which every ingredient of their happiness will be a perpetual
evidence. But though we cannot honor him, we may dishonor ourselves;
though we cannot increase the lustre of his fame, we may show our own
meanness, cowardice, spite, and malice; and show an astonished world
that we are deplorably unworthy of the high honor conferred by Nature in
giving us a WASHINGTON.
I am, said Mr. H., awfully impressed by the subject. I sink under the
sublimity that surrounds it. No words can reach it; mine are totally
inadequate; to the feelings of the House then it must be submitted:
they, after anticipating all that genius or eloquence can say, will
still far surpass their boldest effusions.
Mr. RANDOLPH was very unfortunately situated, as he was compelled to
rise, not in his own defence, but in defence of the calumniated
reputation of that State which he revered, since from it he derived his
birth.
I will not, said Mr. R., enter into an elucidation of the motives of the
gentleman from South Carolina, which have produced so much asperity, and
such a virulence of rancor against the State of Virgina, but will
confine myself to the question on engrossing the bill.
The gentleman has talked to us about his disregard for the _locus in
quo_. Mr. R. said he cared as little for the _quo modo_, as the
gentleman did for the _locus in quo_.
He had further told us that a statue might be overthrown by a licentious
mob; and that this had actually been the case in the State of Virginia.
But, why had it been so? Because that statue had been erected in the
life-time of the person it celebrated; because it had been erected under
the Colonial Government; and because, like every other fetter of
tyranny, it was broken by the Revolutionary spirit that established our
liberties.
But, says the gentleman, statues are raised for subordinate men, for
this admiral or that general, who may deserve well of their country, but
who do not merit the highest distinctions of national gratitude. If this
measure of raising a mausoleum is to be only a cover for obtaining
statues for temporary and secondary and trifling characters, it may have
a very alarming influence upon us.
It is not easy, for a man of even less sensibility than myself, to hear
in silence the State in which I was born, and one of whose
Representatives I am, calumniated in the manner in which it had been
that day, by the gentlemen from Connecticut and South Carolina. In
defence of that State, actuated by a love to it, and not from any
respect to its detractors; not to repel any imputation of meanness, of
cowardice, of malice, which the gentleman from South Carolina has called
ours, (meaning, I suppose, his own,) I will inform him, and the
gentleman from Connecticut, that that State was the first to celebrate
the fame of the Hero of America, by erecting a statue to him in the
Capitol at Richmond.
The gentleman from Connecticut objects to a confidence in the record of
the historian. Does the gentleman wish to suppress the history of the
political events of 1776? Or does he believe that these events will be
handed down in association with the bloody buoy, and Porcupine's works?
Perhaps he has formed from his own mind a proper selection for our
children, and is against the press handing down any thing else?
Mr. H. said, that the gentleman from Virginia had misstated what he had
said. He had cast no reflection on the State of Virginia; but had barely
stated two instances of statues overthrown and destroyed, to illustrate
their frailty.
During the preceding debate, Mr. CLAIBORNE stated that the committee to
whom this subject had been committed, had obtained several estimates;
among which was one in writing, by Dr. Thornton, which states with
confidence that the expense of an equestrian statue would not exceed
from eight thousand to fifteen thousand pounds currency.
After some remarks from Mr. SHEPARD and Mr. LYON, the yeas and nays were
taken on engrossing the bill, and were--yeas 44, nays 40, as follows:
YEAS.--George Baer, Bailey Bartlett, John Brown,
Christopher G. Champlin, William Cooper, William Craik,
Franklin Davenport, John Dennis, George Dent, Joseph
Dickson, William Edmond, Thomas Evans, Abiel Foster,
Jonathan Freeman, Henry Glenn, Samuel Goode, Chauncey
Goodrich, Elizur Goodrich, Roger Griswold, William Barry
Grove, Robert Goodloe Harper, Archibald Henderson, William
H. Hill, Benjamin Huger, James H. Imlay, John Wilkes
Kittera, Henry Lee, Lewis R. Morris, Abraham Nott, Harrison
G. Otis, Thomas Pinckney, Jonas Platt, Leven Powell, John
Read, Nathan Read, John Rutledge, jr., John C. Smith,
Samuel Tenney, George Thatcher, John Chew Thomas, Richard
Thomas, Peleg Wadsworth, Lemuel Williams, and Henry Woods.
NAYS.--Willis Alston, Theodorus Bailey, John Bird, Phanuel
Bishop, Robert Brown, Gabriel Christie, Matthew Clay,
William Charles Cole Claiborne, John Condit, John
Davenport, Thomas T. Davis, John Dawson, Joseph Eggleston,
Lucas Elmendorph, Edwin Gray, Andrew Gregg, John A. Hanna,
Joseph Heister, David Holmes, George Jackson, Aaron
Kitchell, Michael Leib, Matthew Lyon, James Linn,
Nathaniel Macon, Peter Muhlenberg, John Randolph, William
Shepard, John Smilie, John Smith, Richard Dobbs Spaight,
Richard Stanford, Thomas Sumter, Benjamin Taliaferro, John
Thompson, Abram Trigg, John Trigg, Lyttleton W. Tazewell,
Philip Van Cortlandt, and Joseph B. Varnum.
The third reading of the bill was fixed for Thursday week; when the
House adjourned to Tuesday, the thirtieth.
TUESDAY, December 30.
_The Henderson claim to land guarantied by treaty to Chickasaw and
Cherokee Indians._
Another member, to wit, ROBERT WILLIAMS, from North Carolina, appeared,
and took his seat in the House.
A memorial of Pleasant Henderson and others, inhabitants of the State of
North Carolina, was presented to the House and read, stating their
claims to certain lands ceded by the State of North Carolina to the
United States, with a reservation of the claims of the petitioners; the
possession of which lands the United States have since guarantied by
treaty to the Chickasaw and Cherokee Indians; and praying relief in the
premises.
_Ordered_, That the said memorial do lie on the table.
WEDNESDAY, December 31.
_The Territory of Columbia._
On motion of Mr. H. LEE, the House went into a Committee of the Whole on
the bill in relation to the Territory of Columbia.
Mr. RANDOLPH moved to strike out the first section, which is in these
words:
_Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives
of the United States of America in Congress assembled_,
That the laws of the State of Virginia, as they existed on
the first Monday of December, in the year 1800, shall be
and continue in force in that part of the District of
Columbia which was ceded by the said State to the United
States, and by them accepted for the permanent seat of
Government; and that the laws of the State of Maryland as
they existed on the said first Monday in December, shall be
and continue in force in that part of the said District
which was ceded by that State to the United States, and by
them accepted, as aforesaid.
Mr. H. LEE said, that he was far from considering this bill as an act of
supererogation. The constitution had prohibited the States of Virginia
and Maryland from legislating for the Territory; and it now became a
question, whether the existing laws of those States were in force, which
question might come before the Judiciary. To obviate all doubts, this
bill, in the shape of a declaratory one, was reported.
Mr. NICHOLAS said, this bill is not, in my opinion, merely an act of
supererogation, but an act of immense mischief. I do not agree with my
colleague in the construction he gives the constitution. He is of
opinion, that the powers given to Congress on this subject must be
exercised by them. I think differently. These powers are like many
others conferred, which may or may not be exercised. It had never been
contended that we are obliged to carry into execution all the powers
with which we are invested. It is true, that we have nearly exhausted
the letter of our charter, in the extent to which we have gone; but this
fact furnished no reason for going still further.
A construction contrary to that contended for had been given by Congress
in the exercise of their power. The act of acceptance passed by
Congress, confirming the cessions made by Virginia and Maryland,
expressly declares, "that the operation of the laws of the State within
such District shall not be affected by this acceptance until the term
fixed for the removal of the Government thereto, and until Congress
shall otherwise by law provide."
Great force was attached to that part of the constitution which gave
Congress exclusive legislation over the Territory. But the same clause
of the constitution gave the same power over forts, magazines, arsenals,
&c. Yet this power had never been assumed by Congress. The possession of
the right had heretofore been considered as sufficient; the exercise of
it was reserved until peculiar circumstances should occur, which
rendered it necessary.
I believe the committee are not prepared to sanction this bill. To
sanction it would be to place the inhabitants of the Territory in a
situation for which they would not be thankful. It would impose upon
them all the laws of Virginia and Maryland, as they existed on the first
Monday of December, without those improvements which experience may
suggest.
If this bill passed, it would leave a considerable portion of the
inhabitants of the Territory without any judicial authorities to which
they could appeal. There were parts of Fairfax, Montgomery, and Prince
George's Counties, which would have no courts to which they could apply.
Another consequence that would result from the construction attempted to
be given to the constitution, was the deprivation of the inhabitants of
all participation either in Federal or State legislation. As, by the
construction, they would cease to be the subjects of State taxation, it
could not be expected that the States would permit them, without being
taxed, to be represented.
Could any man desire to place the citizens of the District in such a
state? To deprive them of the common right of participating in the
passage of laws which all the citizens enjoyed?
If the construction be sound, that we are bound to legislate, then all
the judicial proceedings which had taken place since the first Monday in
December, whatever affected either property or persons, were mere
nullities. I do not, however, believe the construction to be sound. I
believe it opposed both to the spirit of the constitution and to the
construction hitherto given by Congress. But were the construction just,
to adopt the proposed bill would be to act in a way inadequate to the
importance of the subject, which, involving in it a system of government
for a large portion of citizens, ought not to be acted upon with
precipitation, but ought to be conducted by the collected wisdom of
Congress derived from mature and deliberate reflection.
Mr. H. LEE said, my colleague is wrong in supposing this bill a part of
a permanent system. It is only intended to cure an evil which some
persons have supposed to exist, from the doubtful jurisdiction of the
States of Virginia and Maryland.
Mr. OTIS said, though I respect the talents of the committee who brought
in the bill, yet I cannot discover that it contains a single new view or
provision. Though I am myself at a loss to account for the necessity of
the bill, the committee were certainly right, if they entertained
doubts, to attract the attention of the House to them.
By the first act of Congress accepting the cession, the United States
have legislated in the very way the gentleman from Virginia now
proposes. As it appeared at that time impossible to form a code of laws,
those of Maryland and Virginia were confirmed till Congress should
legislate.
If it were true that Congress were bound to legislate themselves, an
equal obligation existed at that time with that which existed at
present. Their not having done so was a strong argument against the
construction now contended for.
To pass such a law as that now offered, instead of removing, would be
the very means of exciting doubt. The time may arrive when Congress must
go into the subject in detail, and make those provisions that were
necessary for a great city. But at present such a step was not called
for: the Territory had gone on very well for ten years without the
interposition of Congress, and I have no doubt it will continue for some
time to come to do well without it.
Mr. BIRD said, this question, in my opinion, is susceptible of a very
clear and precise solution. Did the acts of cession by the States, and
of acceptance by Congress, take away the jurisdiction of those States,
and vest it in Congress? The acts of Maryland and Virginia make a
complete cession of soil and jurisdiction to Congress. This cession has
been accepted by Congress. What is the consequence of one sovereign
transferring all jurisdiction to another sovereign? Does not the power
that cedes give up all right whatever to that which accepts? The words
of the constitution are that Congress shall exercise exclusive
legislation. If Congress exercise exclusive legislation, does it not
follow that no other body can exercise any legislation whatever?
The gentleman from Virginia (Mr. NICHOLAS) does not deny the power
altogether, but limits it, as a power that may or may not be exercised
by Congress; and, in illustration of his opinion, instances the power to
naturalize and to pass bankrupt laws. But the cases are not analogous.
These last are powers that Congress may or may not exercise. The
constitution does not apply to them the term exclusive; nor are they
shut out by the actual words of that instrument or by necessary
inference.
Over some objects Congress have partial authority; but in this case
their authority is absolute and exclusive of all other; from which
irresistibly follows the absolute cessation of all power in the ceding
body.
It was undoubtedly the intention of the framers of the constitution,
that after this Territory became the actual seat of Government, no
authority but that of Congress should be in force.
The act of cession by the States, after stating the terms of cession,
contains a proviso, that the power of legislation thereby vested in
Congress, shall not impair the force of the laws of Maryland and
Virginia, till Congress shall otherwise by law provide. A proviso is to
prevent something from being done that without it would be done.
Congress declared the same thing when they accepted the cession with the
same proviso. This proviso tends to supersede the cession. Having this
effect it must fall, as conflicting with the act to which it is a
proviso. It must be considered as absolutely void. A proviso is intended
to prevent the operation of a particular thing, not to give an operation
to it. It may prevent the enaction of a particular law, but it cannot
re-enact that law.
A difference of opinion seemed to exist as to the period when the powers
of the States were superseded. It was the opinion of some gentlemen that
they ceased on the completion of the act of cession. The committee
consider them as ceasing on the first Monday in December of the present
year. It became the House solemnly to settle this point before they
entered into the consideration of a complicated system of government. If
the Legislative powers of the States had ceased, it follows, as a
necessary consequence, that the Judicial powers had also ceased.
For these reasons I think it will be best to declare that things shall
remain in _statu quo_. If the ordinary jurisdiction established be not
competent, it may easily be made so.
Mr. RANDOLPH was not prepared to enter into a discussion of the
important point before the committee. He would only state the dilemma in
which the inhabitants of the District of Columbia would be placed by the
construction given to the constitution by his colleague, who was of
opinion that all Legislative and Judicial powers derived from Virginia
and Maryland, ceased on the first Monday of December. If this
construction were true, was it not equally true that the bill now
proposed would be of the same validity, and of no more validity, than
the act of acceptance passed by Congress.
From his being unprepared, what he offered was submitted more in the
form of hints than of correct arguments. But it seemed to him that if
the construction contended for should prevail, it would disfranchise the
corporations of Georgetown and Alexandria, and all other corporations
within the District. Would it not place the Territory in the situation
of a conquered country? According to this construction, the Territory
was in a state of anarchy, and murder, if committed, would be no crime.
Further, if the constitutional provision is obligatory upon us to assume
exclusive legislation, are we not bound to establish uniform laws
throughout the entire District? and of course are we not prohibited from
establishing one system in one place, and a different system in another?
One other objection merited the gentleman's notice. The laws of Virginia
precluded every officer under its Government from holding any Federal
office.
From the impression made on his mind by these considerations, Mr. R.
said, he would be wanting to himself and his country, if he agreed to
the bill. He hoped, therefore, that the Committee would rise, and not
precipitate a decision.
Mr. HARPER was in favor of the motion that the committee should rise,
for the purpose of recommitting the bill to a select committee. He would
state his reasons: The object of the first section was to assume the
jurisdiction. That was his object. He wished the establishment of a
Judiciary competent to the carrying into effect the laws now existing.
He wished this object to be accomplished in a fair, open, direct way. At
some future period Congress might find it necessary to enter on a system
of legislation in detail, and to have established numerous police
regulations. At this time, the present exigency would be provided for by
confirming the laws of Virginia and Maryland, and by giving effect to
them by the institution of a competent Judicial authority.
Mr. NICHOLAS said, that he should vote for the committee rising, from a
different motive from that which actuated the gentleman from South
Carolina. He hoped the business would be suffered for the present to
sleep.
The construction given to the constitution by the gentleman from New
York, did not render it merely expedient in Congress to assume
jurisdiction, but rendered it an absolute duty. In reply to his remarks,
the gentleman had alleged that the authority given by the constitution
in relation to this Territory, differed from the other powers vested in
Congress, inasmuch as the former investment of power had connected it
with the word _exclusive_; whereas the latter had not. The meaning which
Mr. N. affixed to that word, was altogether different from the one now
contended for. The constitution does not say Congress shall possess
exclusive power of legislation; but that they shall have power of
exercising exclusive legislation.
The acts of cession and acceptance contained a construction directly
opposed to that now made. They declare that the laws of Maryland and
Virginia shall continue till Congress shall alter them. Their cessation
is made to depend on an uncertain event, viz: whether Congress shall
legislate or not. Not a tittle in the constitution or in our practice,
under the constitution, infringed our liberty to act or not to act.
What would be the effect of this law on the inhabitants of the
Territory? It would impose on them the laws of Maryland and Virginia, as
they existed on a particular day, without any capability of improvement
from the improved code of those States.
Mr. N. had heard of no inconveniences which had arisen from the
non-assumption of power by Congress. The people in the Territory of
Columbia had been a happy people for more than a hundred years under
their State Governments; and, he had no doubt, would remain so without
the interposition of Congress, who, at present, were unqualified to act.
After some further remarks by Messrs. HARPER and H. LEE, the question
was taken on the committee rising, and carried without a division.
The committee rose; the Chairman requested leave to sit again, which was
not granted.
Mr. HARPER then moved to recommit the bill to the same committee that
introduced it. He said, the objection made by the gentleman from
Virginia to the assumption of power by Congress goes to say that the
constitutional provision, the acts of cession of Maryland and Virginia,
and the act of acceptance by Congress, shall be all a dead letter; and
that the Territory shall continue, as heretofore, under its old
jurisdiction. This was, to all intents and purposes, the amount of the
gentleman's remarks. He asked, what necessity for the exercise of power
by Congress? Had not the citizens lived happily for a hundred years
under the State Governments? This Mr. H. did not dispute. It was
probably true that they had lived as happily as other portions of
citizens under the State Governments. But the provision of the
constitution on this subject had not been made with this view. It was
made to bestow dignity and independence on the government of the Union.
It was to protect it from such outrages as had occurred when it was
differently situated, when it was without competent Legislative,
Executive, and Judicial power, to ensure to itself respect. While the
government was under the guardianship of State laws, those laws might be
inadequate to its protection, or there might exist a spirit hostile to
the general government, or at any rate indisposed to give it proper
protection. This was one reason, among others, for the provisions of the
constitution, confirmed and carried into effect by the acts of Maryland
and Virginia, and by the act of Congress.
The object of the gentleman was to defeat all these acts and all these
arrangements, in subversion of that provision which the constitution had
made, and of that necessity which it had foreseen.
The gentleman from Virginia requires more time. He thinks we are not
prepared to legislate. But if his (Mr. H.'s) ideas were adopted, there
would be no occasion for this. The Territory has laws; and Mr. H.
believed these laws would answer very well for fifty years, without
giving Congress much trouble to modify them.
The establishment of a Judiciary would be very easy, and would require
little time. As to a police, it may be necessary hereafter. At present
it was not necessary. With regard to a corporation, he was against it at
present, and he did not think it would ever be necessary.
Mr. NICHOLAS did not consider the power imparted by the constitution as
imperative. He, therefore, could not fairly be charged with a desire to
deviate from the designs of its framers. The power was like a coat of
armor, intended to protect the Government in periods of danger, and not
to be worn at all times for parade and show.
Remarks had been made to show that the dignity and independence of the
Government required the assumption. All such arguments, when set against
the happiness of the people, were inconclusive; Mr. N. had always been
taught to consider the true dignity of the Government as indissolubly
connected with the happiness of the people; and was unable to unlearn
all that he had heretofore acquired to this effect.
Mr. CRAIK agreed with the member from South Carolina, as far as his
remarks went, but he did not think they went far enough. He was himself
friendly to the institution of a local government for local purposes,
leaving all Federal powers to Congress. If the bill should be
recommitted, he would be prepared to offer a plan conformably to these
ideas. He felt no alarm at the doubts suggested of the validity of the
laws of Maryland and Virginia. He believed that they were still in
force; and did not think there was any absolute necessity for Congress
to act at all at present. Still, he thought that delay would only
multiply the inconveniences already experienced in the formation of a
plan of government. A plan might be framed, to protect the General
Government as well as, in some degree, the inhabitants of the Territory,
from any tyranny that some gentlemen supposed might be exercised by
Congress.
He concluded, by expressing a hope that a completely organized system
might be formed and adopted.
THURSDAY, January 1, 1801.
The House of Representatives having received information of the death of
Major General THOMAS HARTLEY, one of its members, who has represented
the State of Pennsylvania, in that branch of the National Legislature,
from the commencement of the Government until his death, do, therefore,
unanimously, _Resolve_, That the members testify their respect for the
memory of the said THOMAS HARTLEY, by wearing a crape on the left arm,
for one month.
_Resolved_, That the SPEAKER address a letter to the Executive of
Pennsylvania, to inform him of the death of THOMAS HARTLEY, late a
member of this House, in order that measures may be taken to supply the
vacancy occasioned thereby.
_Mausoleum to Washington._
An engrossed bill concerning GEORGE WASHINGTON was read the third time;
and, on the question that the same do pass,
Mr. DAWSON moved to recommit it. Lost--ayes 39, noes 44.
Mr. RANDOLPH moved to refer the bill to a select committee. Lost--ayes
32.
Mr. SPAIGHT and Mr. DAVIS then assigned their reasons for voting against
the bill.
The question was then taken on the passing of the bill, and it was
resolved in the affirmative--yeas 45, nays 37, as follows:
YEAS.--Bailey Bartlett, John Brown, Christopher G.
Champlin, William Cooper, William Craik, John Davenport,
Franklin Davenport, John Dennis, George Dent, Joseph
Dickson, Thomas Evans, Abiel Foster, Jonathan Freeman,
Henry Glenn, Samuel Goode, Chauncey Goodrich, Elizur
Goodrich, Roger Griswold, William Barry Grove, Robert
Goodloe Harper, Archibald Henderson, William H. Hill,
Benjamin Huger, James H. Imlay, John Wilkes Kittera, Henry
Lee, Silas Lee, Lewis R. Morris, Abraham Nott, Harrison G.
Otis, Thomas Pinckney, Jonas Platt, Leven Powell, John
Read, Nathan Read, John Rutledge, jr., John C. Smith, James
Sheafe, Samuel Tenney, George Thatcher, John Chew Thomas,
Richard Thomas, Peleg Wadsworth, Lemuel Williams, and Henry
Woods.
NAYS.--Willis Alston, Theodorus Bailey, Phanuel Bishop,
Robert Brown, Gabriel Christie, Matthew Clay, William C. C.
Claiborne, John Condit, Thos. T. Davis, John Dawson, Joseph
Eggleston, Lucas Elmendorph, Edwin Gray, Andrew Gregg, John
A. Hanna, David Holmes, George Jackson, Aaron Kitchell,
Michael Leib, James Linn, Nathaniel Macon, Peter
Muhlenberg, Anthony New, John Nicholas, John Randolph, John
Smilie, John Smith, Richard Dobbs Spaight, Richard
Stanford, Thomas Sumter, Benjamin Taliaferro, John
Thompson, Abram Trigg, John Trigg, Philip Van Cortlandt,
Joseph B. Varnum, and Robert Williams.
_Resolved_, That the title of the said bill be "An act to erect a
Mausoleum for GEORGE WASHINGTON;" and that the Clerk of this House do
carry the same to the Senate, and desire their concurrence.
FRIDAY, January 2.
Another member, to wit, JAMES A. BAYARD, from Delaware, appeared, and
took his seat in the House.
On motion of Mr. GRISWOLD the House went into a Committee of the Whole
on the Judiciary bill; the House dividing--yeas 44, nays 33.
The bill was read through, when the committee reported progress, and
asked and obtained leave to sit again.
_Sedition Law._
The House proceeded to consider the report of the Committee of Revisal
and Unfinished Business, made the thirty-first ultimo, which lay on the
table, and the same being again read, in the words following, to wit:
"The Committee of Revisal and Unfinished Business further
report, in part:
"That, on examining the statutes of the United States, they
find that the act, entitled 'An act in addition to the act,
entitled "An act for the punishment of certain crimes
against the United States,"' passed the fourteenth day of
July, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-eight, will
expire on the third day of March, one thousand eight
hundred and one.
"And the said committee report their opinion, that the
above-mentioned act ought to be continued; and, therefore,
recommend the following resolution:
"_Resolved_, That the Committee of Revisal and Unfinished
Business be authorized to report a bill for continuing the
act, entitled 'An act in addition to the act, entitled "An
act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United
States,"' passed the fourteenth day of July, one thousand
seven hundred and ninety-eight."
It was moved and seconded that the said report be committed to a
Committee of the whole House. And the question being taken thereupon, it
was resolved in the affirmative--yeas 47, nays 33.
_Ordered_, That the said report be committed to a Committee of the whole
House on Tuesday next.
MONDAY, January 26.
Several other members, to wit: from Kentucky, JOHN FOWLER; from
Virginia, SAMUEL J. CABELL; and from New York, EDWARD LIVINGSTON,
appeared, and took their seats in the House.
THURSDAY, January 29.
_Rules for Electing President when no Election by Electors._
The following resolution, proposed by Mr. RUTLEDGE, was presented to the
House, which, being read, was ordered to lie on the table.
"_Resolved_, That a committee be appointed to prepare and
report such rules as, in their opinion, are proper to be
adopted by this House, to be observed in the election of a
President of the United States, whose term is to commence
on the fourth day of March next, provided the Electors
appointed under the authority of the States have not
elected a President for that term."
FRIDAY, January 30.
_Election of President when the two highest on the List voted for have
an equal number of Votes._
Mr. BAYARD submitted the following resolution, to wit:
_Resolved_, That, in the event of its appearing upon the
counting and ascertaining of the votes given for President
and Vice President, according to the mode prescribed by the
constitution, that an equal number of votes have been
given for two persons, that as soon as the same shall have
been duly declared and entered on the journals of this
House, that the Speaker, accompanied by the members of the
House, shall return to this Chamber, and shall immediately
proceed to choose one of the two candidates for President;
and in case, upon the first ballot, there shall not appear
to be a majority of the States in favor of one of the
candidates, in such case the House shall continue to ballot
for President, without interruption by other business,
until it shall appear that a President is duly chosen; and,
if no such choice should be made upon the first day, the
House shall continue to ballot from day to day, till a
choice shall be duly made.
_Ordered_, That the consideration of the said motion be postponed until
Monday next.
MONDAY, February 2.
A new member, to wit, EBENEZER MATTOON, returned to serve as a member of
this House for the State of Massachusetts, in the room of Samuel Lyman,
who has resigned his seat, appeared, produced his credentials, was
qualified, and took his seat in the House.
_Election of President._
A motion being made and seconded that the House do come to the following
resolution, to wit:
_Resolved_, That a committee be appointed to prepare and
report such rules, as, in their opinion, are proper to be
adopted by this House, to be observed in the choice of a
President of the United States, whose term is to commence
on the fourth day of March next, if, when the votes which
have been given by the electors appointed under the
authority of the States shall have been counted, as
prescribed by the constitution, it shall appear that no
person for whom the electors shall have voted, has a
majority, or that more than one person, having such
majority, have an equal number of votes:
_Ordered_, That Mr. RUTLEDGE, Mr. NICHOLAS, Mr. GRISWOLD, Mr. MACON, Mr.
BAYARD, Mr. TALIAFERRO, Mr. FOSTER, Mr. CLAIBORNE, Mr. OTIS, Mr. DAVIS,
Mr. MORRIS, Mr. CHAMPLIN, Mr. BAER, Mr. COOPER, Mr. LINN, and Mr. WOODS,
be appointed a committee, pursuant to the said resolution.
_Ordered_, That the motion made on Friday last relative to the mode of
commencing and continuing the ballot for the choice of a President of
the United States, be referred to the committee last appointed.
_District of Columbia._
The House then went into Committee of the Whole on the bill for the
government of the District of Columbia. While the question was being
taken for the House to resolve itself into a committee, Mr. SMILIE rose
and moved the postponement of this order till the third day of March
next. He made this motion, he said, in order to try the sense of the
House, whether they were determined to assume the jurisdiction or not.
He hoped it would not, and was proceeding to show his reasons, when
The SPEAKER reminded him of the order of the House. He could not be
permitted to discuss the merits of the bill under this motion.
Mr. SMILIE conceived the question to affect the bill generally, and
simply to be, whether the House would agree to disfranchise some
thousands of persons of their political rights, which they now enjoyed.
If this was not considered an object of importance enough to command
attention, he must confess other gentlemen saw it in a very different
light from that in which he viewed it. By the passage of this bill, the
people of the district would be reduced to the state of subjects, and
deprived of their political rights, and he very much doubted whether not
of their civil rights also. If, indeed, there was such an imperious
necessity of assuming the jurisdiction, of which he was by no means
convinced, then it must be done; but, if that great and immediate
necessity did not exist, why should this privation of rights take place?
If it was necessary to reduce the City of Washington to a state of local
government by an incorporation, he contended that act could be done by
the State Legislature; as he did not conceive the local demands of the
people called for it, as they could want no such assumption as the bill
contemplated, and as he could perceive no advantage to be derived to the
General Government thereby, and as the assumption would eventually
injure the people, he trusted it would be postponed, at least.
Mr. RUTLEDGE said, he had always uniformly opposed any motion for
postponing a bill, the consideration of which the House had not gone
into. Although it might be in order, it could not be perfectly fair,
from various considerations; if, however, it were only from its tendency
to preclude the investigation of the bill, it were sufficient. The
gentleman had stated it not to be necessary. Who are to judge? Most
assuredly the people belonging to the Territory. And what have they
said? Why, sir, they have prayed the House to assume the jurisdiction.
From this petition the subject was referred to a committee, and this
committee have reported a bill, and a bill well discussed and well
matured in its detail. To refuse this bill from a diversity of
sentiment, would be to insult the committee, and to insult the people of
the Territory. If the gentleman wishes to please the people, why does he
not suffer the consideration of the bill to proceed, and afford his aid
in making it what he supposes their desires would concur in? Perhaps the
gentleman has not read the bill. Mr. R. said, if he had not, how was he
to know whether it was good or bad? Something must be done. He wished to
get at that something, but was precluded by the motion. It certainly
became the gentleman to show how this bill would operate injuriously
upon the people, as a reason for his motion. Disfranchisement, to be
sure, had been mentioned as the result of this bill; but how was the
House to know that would be its tendency, except by going into its
investigation?
Mr. CRAIK, also, considered this order of the House as the most unfair
one among the rules of the House. However, it must be permitted while
the order continued. The gentleman had said the people were in a state
of vassalage; how was this declaration to be refuted, if the order of
the House forbade the investigation into the application of this bill to
the liberties of the people? The gentleman further said, that the people
did not desire this assumption of jurisdiction. Were he, Mr. C. said, to
give an opinion upon the subject, it would be drawn from the same source
with that expressed by the gentleman, but of a very different import. He
should say, as far as his knowledge of their sentiments extended, and he
professed to be pretty well acquainted with their ideas upon this
subject, that their feelings, their interests, and their desires
conspired to encourage the assumption, and to prevent the postponement
of the subject. As the immediate representative of a large proportion of
them, he could say that much uncertainty and disquiet convulsed the
minds of many good and wise men among them; that their present
uncertainty was truly deplorable; that serious doubts existed with
judicious men how far the grants and acceptance of lands, or of their
papers, afforded them security for value received; doubts existed, in
all their acts of negotiation, whether their respective State laws held
any government over them? And this state of insecurity as to their
property, could not fail to have an injurious effect. They doubted
whether all other jurisdiction did not immediately cease, upon the
removal of Congress to the District; and should Congress break up
without assuming the jurisdiction, and taking other suitable measures to
fix the Government, it would not fail to paralyze every exertion and
effort toward a successful establishment. No man at present can assure
himself of the right by which he holds his property, or remove his
apprehensions. They now called loudly upon the National Government to
remove from them this state of doubt and uncertainty; this is the object
of the bill before the House; by this bill, a variety of inconveniences
are removed, and the Government use their effort to make their situation
at least more certain; and, he had no doubt, more safe and desirable.
This it was incumbent on the Government to do; and this, he trusted, a
majority of the House would be disposed to do soon. If the objects or
provisions of the bill did not meet that gentleman's desires, he wished
an opportunity to hear the objections, to enable him, as far as in his
power, to remove them.
Mr. SMILIE was proceeding to show that, at any rate, such a bill as the
present ought not to pass, when
The SPEAKER interrupted him, saying that any arguments that went to show
that the third day of March was a more proper time than the present for
this bill to pass would only be in order.
Mr. SMILIE continued to show the impropriety of the bill, and the
inevitable injuries that must be sustained by it, when he was again
reminded of the question of order.
Mr. S. proceeded: that it might be the wish of some of the people, he
would not say; but he denied that such a wish had been expressed, and
therefore it ought not to be considered as correct. As to the question
of doubt on the minds of the people, whether or not they held their
property secure, not being certain of the existence of their former
State laws, he referred to the acts of cession, passed by the States of
Maryland and Virginia respectively, the words of which were, that the
laws remained in force "until Congress shall by law otherwise provide."
Under this express provision, the cession was made by the two States;
and by this provision the Government of the United States accepted the
grant of the ten miles square. And, therefore, until Congress by law
should accept of the jurisdiction and nullify the laws of those States
over the District, there could be no doubt but they remained in full
force, and property was held as secure under those laws as ever. As he
had before observed, he contended that an act of incorporation could be
obtained for the city of Washington without this bill. From all these
grounds, he believed the bill to be at present unnecessary.
Mr. H. LEE did not wonder at this opposition, considering the quarter
from whence it came; perhaps, he said, if he had come from Pennsylvania,
the idea of losing the General Government might instigate him to wish to
give the stabbing blow to every act which should go to the establishing
of that Government in another place. But, he trusted, as these local
reasons could not influence gentlemen from other States, they would not
concur in his arguments. He trusted other gentlemen would lay to their
hands and join to make this District a settled Government, and go into
the examination of the principles proposed to accomplish that measure.
He hoped not merely words of kindness escaping from the lips of
gentlemen, would be deemed by them sufficient, but that their efforts
would be used to produce a well-digested and valuable government, for
the security of their civil and political rights.
With respect to the act of cession, he contended that the solemn
injunctions of the constitution were detailed in words upon which the
most critical could not find wherewith to hang a doubt. There the
Congress of the United States were enjoined to "exercise exclusive
jurisdiction." When was this jurisdiction to commence but at the period
when the General Government should occupy it? Was not, then, this spot
become the permanent seat of the Government of the Union? Were not the
different departments, Executive, Legislative, and Judicial, assembled,
according to the constitution, in this District? How, then, could the
respective States of Virginia and Maryland a moment longer possess the
jurisdiction? It was completely done away, and nothing was now wanting
to remove the miserable state of suspense the people now felt, but the
declaration of the Government that this was the case; that moment would
all their fears be appeased. As a friend to those people, then, as much
as that gentleman could be, he hoped an opportunity would be given to
examine the bill, not doubting but it would be made to meet the wishes,
as he was assured it would be the interest of the people to be governed
by it.
Mr. MACON said the motion was perfectly in order, and explained some of
the cases for which it was established, as a rule of the House. As to
the jurisdiction being assumed by the removal of Congress here, as the
gentleman last up had said, were that the case, not only by this bill
would it be assumed, but the acts of the two States must have ceased
from the day Congress first sat here; a deduction by no means supported.
The only evidence the House had of the desire of the people to come
specially under the National Government, was a petition from Alexandria,
except that the gentleman from the District had learned so among his
friends. But did that express the will or wishes of the inhabitants of
the surrounding country.
As he believed the laws of the States to be in full force; as he
believed they would remain so until otherwise enacted by Congress, and
as postponing the bill till the third of March would afford the people a
large time to reflect on the subject, and express their will more
generally, he hoped the postponement would take place. He would remind
the House that this measure once taken, could not be undone; and,
therefore, prudence would dictate that time should be taken to do it
well. The act could not be repealed without amending the constitution.
If the gentleman only calculated upon an opposition from Pennsylvania,
he was mistaken. Mr. M. presumed that he could not be supposed to have
local attachments, residing very far from the former, or the present
seat of Government; he was, notwithstanding, opposed to taking up this
subject at present, and even during the present session. The delay of
acceptance could not displease the inhabitants, if they were satisfied
as to the present jurisdiction, which did not, in his opinion, admit of
a doubt. It was impossible that the postponement could be attended with
any inconvenience; they had been in the same situation for ten years,
and wherein could be the inconvenience of their remaining so? Nay, there
must be advantages in their usages and customs being continued to them.
He wished this matter to be postponed till another session.
Mr. BIRD never could suppose that the members of the Legislature would
be satisfied with their removal from a place of accommodation to a
wilderness, and with subjecting themselves to the inconveniences of this
place, without exercising all the powers intrusted to them, and taking
the jurisdiction to the Government, the members and subordinates of
which were to subject themselves to the code of laws under which they
should place themselves. A motion, therefore, to continue the
jurisdiction out of the hands of the Government, much surprised him. All
the arguments used by the gentleman in favor of a postponement, would
operate fully to the entire abandonment of the subject; and did he
suppose that all the expense attending the removal of the whole
Government, all the inconvenience experienced, would be, or ought to be,
borne without the enjoyment of that constitutional right, nay,
injunction, of "exclusive legislation?" What could have been the reason
why Congress was to assume this exclusive legislation? Did not the
members of the convention know that a great quantity of public treasure
would be drawn together into this place? Did they not suppose it of
importance to secure the privileges and rights of foreign ministers, who
would necessarily be brought to reside in this District? Did they not
consider the number of persons attached to the Government worthy of the
special regard of the national Legislature? Could any gentleman conceive
that these were not too great powers to be intrusted to any State
whatever? Else why was the provision for exclusive jurisdiction made? To
avoid putting those powers into execution, he firmly believed, would be
omitting a great and important duty. But, were it not for the words of
the constitution, the words of the acts of cession made by the States
were as ample upon the subject as one sovereign power in the act of
granting, and another sovereign power in the act of receiving a cession,
could make. This was precisely the case; the two States made a full and
complete cession of the jurisdiction to the General Government, upon the
terms of the constitution, which were to "exercise exclusive
legislation, in all cases whatever, over such District," which had, by
the cession of those particular States, and the acceptance of Congress,
become the seat of the Government of the United States. How, he would
ask gentlemen, could this be granted, and yet retained? It was absurd to
suppose a man could grant a piece of land, and by the same instrument
retain it.
But suppose this was a doubtful subject, whether or not the laws of the
two States were in force in the District; would the gentleman still wish
to leave it in doubt? Surely no new laws could be made by those States
to affect this district, actually made the seat of Government, and he
contended that none of the laws whatever did exist here, and that the
power of the civil officers actually had ceased; it therefore required
no painting to show that the state of the place was truly deplorable.
Would the gentleman yet wish to leave the District without laws, and
merely lest it should take away their suffrage? That the people could
not be represented in the General Government, Mr. B. admitted. But where
was the blame, if any could attach? Certainly not to the men who made
the act of cession; not to those who accepted it. It was to the men who
framed the constitutional provision, who peculiarly set apart this as a
District under the national safeguard and Government. But, he contended,
there was no injury sustained. What less compensation than the
particular legislation of this District could be required for the
removal of the Government, whereby in these almost uninhabited woods the
beginnings of a rich and prosperous city was commenced, and made the
capital of the United States?
The motion for postponement was withdrawn without a question being
taken, and the House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on
the bill. Mr. SMILIE moved to strike out the first section of the bill.
Mr. SMILIE said he would willingly give the reasons which prompted him
to make the motion, and he hoped the gentleman would as freely make his
reply. If it could be proved to him that the rights of these people
could be reserved by the passage of the bill, it would give him
pleasure, but, believing it to be impossible, he wished to destroy the
bill. It could not be denied but that the people of this District were
precisely in the same situation at present which they always had been,
and subject to the same laws, but would it be so when the Government
once accepted the cession? It would not. Not a man in the District would
be represented in the Government, whereas every man who contributed to
the support of a government ought to be represented in it, otherwise his
natural rights were subverted, and he left, not a citizen, but a
subject. This was one right the bill deprived these people of, and he
had always been taught to believe it was a very serious and important
one. It was a right which this country, when under subjection to Great
Britain, thought worth making a resolute struggle for, and evinced a
determination to perish rather than not enjoy.
Another, and an important right, of which those people were about to be
deprived, was, that their Judges and their Governor were not to be the
choice of themselves, but of the President. The privilege of a local
Legislature might be given to the people, but of what avail could they
be if the Governor appointed by the President could deprive them of
every act they might make by his negative? Where was their security if
the acts of these Representatives of the people could be to-morrow
revoked by a power deriving authority from elsewhere? Much as gentlemen
might talk about dignity of government, nothing, he thought, would more
comport with true dignity than liberty, and without it dignity of
government was not worth a name. It surely must be disagreeable for the
Government to be in the midst of a people who are deprived of their
rights, and what insecurity there ever had been, or ever would be, to
the Government, from its residence under the laws of the States, he
could not conceive. He had never known of any. If he could be convinced
that the people would not be deprived of these rights, among others, he
would agree to some such bill as this.
Mr. DENNIS acknowledged that had he the same impressions as the member
who had just sat down, he would not hesitate for a moment to believe
that liberty had been forced to yield to a reign of absolute slavery.
But from a consideration of the interests of the people, of the dignity
of the Government, and of the seat of the Congress, together with the
reflections of the gentleman who had just resumed his seat, he felt
himself called upon to make some observations by way of an answer.
As to the interests of the people, could it for a moment be doubted that
a local government, a judiciary, and a legislature, would be highly
advantageous? Could any man doubt but it would be more convenient and
advantageous for the inhabitants to attend the courts in this place than
to be taken away to Richmond or to Annapolis? It had been always an
approved privilege that justice should be brought home to every man's
door, and where could it be more so than by the establishment of a
judiciary, especially for this District? Nor were the advantages less,
he contended, in the legislative department. If a ready communication
with their representatives was desirable to the people, by the residence
and sitting of the representatives of this District being within itself,
the communication was easy, and the rights of the people in their local
concerns more attainable, surely, than though they had to go to Richmond
or to Annapolis. But, taking a more comprehensive view of the subject,
Mr. D. asked if the general interests of the District would not be more
secured by persons immediately acquainted and concerned, than by persons
of different States, and at a distance from the place? One or two
representatives to each legislature would be the utmost that the
District could send, and these placed among men of different interests,
what could be expected compared to a body such as is prescribed by this
bill, drawn from among the people themselves? In these legislatures, the
numerous local circumstances which must call for attention in a newly
planted and rapidly growing capital, never can receive due attention.
Every person must know that a great proportion of business must arise
from a commercial city. From observation he could say that about
one-third of the business of the Legislature of Maryland usually arose
from Baltimore alone. As this city, therefore, grew in population and in
trade, the demand for legislative attention would increase, and either
its interests must be neglected, or the sitting of the State
legislatures must be protracted too far. Besides this, experience must
have taught gentlemen that numerous bodies could not so well attend to
the minute advantages of a place like this as small bodies, and
particularly such as well knew its situation and circumstances.
It had been said that these people were happy. Mr. D. admitted it; but a
change of circumstances made an inevitable difference, and required a
different mode of legislating. This District of the General Government,
being a part of two States, must require an alteration from its former
government. Surely the organization of a local body must be more
advantageous than any modifications which could be made by those two
Legislatures. So far from a rule of despotism then being over these
people, he thought the passing of this bill would much increase their
prosperity. It was said that, by the assumption of the jurisdiction,
these people would ask how much they were heretofore represented in the
two Legislatures to which they sent delegates. They were so in name, but
very little in essence, from the comparatively small number they could
send to the Legislatures. But the arguments went as much against the
assumption at any future time as at present. That it would be some time
taken up there could be no doubt. It ought therefore to be recollected,
that if it would ever be proper, a period more unfavorable to the
interests of the people might be selected than the present, and
therefore the present moment ought to be accepted, and especially so, as
he believed the people were desirous of it, and were satisfied with the
features of the bill. From their contiguity to, and residence among the
members of the General Government, they knew, that though they might not
be represented in the national body, their voice would be heard. But if
it should be necessary, the constitution might be so altered as to give
them a delegate to the General Legislature when their numbers should
become sufficient. Upon the whole, he could see no measures which would
more immediately promote the interests of the people of this district,
and give stability to their minds, and to their concerns with each
other, than the present bill and, therefore, he hoped the section would
remain.
Mr. MACON said, he could see no such immediate necessity for this law. A
gentleman had told the committee it was necessary because the States did
not pay regard to it. Mr. M. supposed the same attention was paid to
this district as usual, and the same as was paid to any other particular
part. He believed their political and local rights were as perfectly
secure without this bill as any other part of those States, and if the
object of gentlemen was to make it better or worse, he should be opposed
to it. Before the least change from their former situation, some
inconveniences ought to be mentioned under which they labored, and this
had not been done, more than mere conjecture and surmises had
engendered. Most assuredly there ought to be some good ground for this
assumption, because it was not merely a common act of the Legislature,
which could be repealed or amended as soon as passed. It was an act of a
nature that could not be essentially altered without an alteration in
the constitution, because if the assumption was once accepted, it could
not be parted with.
It would be so far from advantageous to the city of Washington, Mr. M.
said, that it must essentially injure it. On one side of the water was
Alexandria, a populous town; on the other side was Georgetown. Would not
these two give to the legislature a majority? And if so, a more palpable
evil could not be put upon the city than by putting it in with more
numerous towns whose interests would ever be opposed to the growth of
the city. There would inevitably be an Alexandria interest, a Georgetown
interest, and a city interest, and those struggling with each other.
It was said to be inconvenient to be represented at a distance, from the
want of an easy communication. How could this be? What was more easy
than for letters and instructions to be sent by post? The communication
was easy from all parts of the United States to Congress, and could be
equally so to any place where the post goes. There could be no doubt but
the States would pay as much attention to the interests of this
District, if it continued under their jurisdiction, as ever had been
done, and more: by not suffering it to endure any injury which it could
prevent, Congress should immediately take the jurisdiction. The language
and meaning of gentlemen could be well understood. Gentlemen were called
to support the measure with energy, while they had strength. No doubt
this was the principal ground of their endeavors to push the measure,
although the Legislature had but just met here, and there had been
scarce time to know what would be the proper regulations to adopt. But
he wished to remind them, that although the law might be passed, the
time would not be far off when his friends would be in the minority, and
some considerable alterations might be made in it.
Mr. M. then proceeded to the details of the bill. He disliked the
establishment of a government, the executive and judiciary of which were
in the appointment of the President of the United States, the former for
three years and the latter during good behavior: and these, both
governor and judges of the superior and inferior courts, to be paid out
of the Treasury of the United States. Could it be the wish of the
gentleman, he asked, to establish in the very heart of the United
States, and immediately under the eye of the Government, such a
principle as that these rulers should be independent and entirely above
the control of the people? He declared that if he should be in Congress
again, and as long as he ever should be in the House, he should
constantly make it his duty to exert himself for the repeal of so bad a
principle, and leave the governor, the judges, and the Legislature,
immediately amenable to the people. Another thing he should also be ever
opposed to, was the manner of this House of Representatives and Senate
being chosen, and the time of their continuance. Why should they be
elected here for two years, when in all the State Legislatures, he
believed they were chosen annually, except two, in one of which they
were elected every six months, and in the other, every two years. A
greater absurdity still was evinced in the time for which, and the
manner how the Senators were chosen--six years, and by electors.
Although in these things there was a similarity to the choice of the
General Government, he would ask what similarity there could be in the
two Governments? In the one there is a vast extent of country and a
numerous population; in the other, a small population, a small tract of
country, and an almost general knowledge by every one of every
individual in it. He doubted whether the Legislature of the Union could
at all delegate powers to this local government; but whether or not, he
could see no kind of necessity during the present session to assume
them. The Government would go on as well as before, and he had no doubt
the city would continue in that rapid state of prosperity gentlemen had
witnessed since they arrived here.
The committee rose without taking a question, and had leave to sit
again.
TUESDAY, February 3.
A new member, to wit, JOHN STEWART, returned to serve as a member of
this House for the State of Pennsylvania, in the room of Thomas Hartley,
deceased, appeared, produced his credentials, was qualified, and took
his seat in the House.
_District of Columbia._
The House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on the bill for
the government of the District of Columbia, when the question was taken
on the motion made yesterday, for striking out the first section, and
negatived, ten members only rising for it.
Mr. GREGG then proposed an amendment to the first section, the object of
which was to make the election of representatives annual, instead of
biennial as contemplated by the bill. This motion brought on a lengthy
discussion, being supported by Messrs. J. SMITH, CLAIBORNE, NICHOLAS,
GALLATIN, and MACON; and opposed by Messrs. CRAIK, HARPER, BAYARD, H.
LEE, THOMAS, and DENNIS. On the question for agreeing to the motion, it
was determined in the negative--48 voting for it and 50 against it.
A motion was then made by Mr. CLAIBORNE, so to amend the first section
as to extend the privilege of voting to persons who are not freeholders;
that privilege being confined by the bill to freeholders exclusively.
This motion brought on a short debate, in which Messrs. KITCHELL,
NICHOLSON, SMITH, MACON, TAZEWELL, and NICHOLAS supported the motion,
and Messrs. HARPER, CRAIK, DENNIS, and GALLATIN, opposed it. On the
question that the House do agree to the motion, it was determined in the
negative, there being 48 votes for, and 50 against it.
WEDNESDAY, February 4.
_District of Columbia._
The House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on the bill for
the government of the District of Columbia.
A motion was made by Mr. GALLATIN to amend the first section of the
bill, so as to extend the privilege of voting for representatives to
persons other than freeholders, who are possessed of property in the
District to the value of eighty dollars.
Mr. HARPER proposed an amendment to the foregoing amendment, that a
citizen, not being a freeholder, in order to qualify him as an elector,
must be a housekeeper, and possessed of property of the value of one
hundred dollars, to be ascertained by the record of the last assessment
next preceding the period of offering his vote.
Mr. GALLATIN'S amendment was withdrawn, and Mr. HARPER'S, which, though
offered as an amendment, was a complete substitute for it, was adopted.
Mr. CLAIBORNE proposed as an amendment to this same section, to reduce
the term of a Senator continuing in office from six to three years.
The motion was negatived.
Mr. TAZEWELL moved to strike out the Senate altogether, on the ground
that Congress, having the revision of all laws that may be passed for
the territory, and the power of rejecting such as they did not approve,
would be a sufficient check on the Representatives without a Senate.
This motion was negatived.
Mr. MACON moved as an amendment, that the Senators should be elected
immediately by the people, and not by electors, as proposed by the bill.
This motion was also lost.
A motion was made by Mr. NICHOLSON, that the electors should not be
permitted to choose themselves as Senators.
This motion was adopted.
The committee rose, reported progress, and asked leave to sit again.
FRIDAY, February 6.
A new member, to wit, LEVI LINCOLN, returned to serve in this House as a
member from Massachusetts, in the room of Dwight Foster, elected a
Senator of the United States, appeared, produced his credentials, and
took his seat in the House.
_Rules for Election of President._
Mr. RUTLEDGE, from the committee appointed, on the second instant, to
prepare and report such rules as, in their opinion, are proper to be
adopted by this House to be observed in the choice of a President of the
United States, made a report; which was read.
[See _post_, Monday 9th, as amended.]
MONDAY, February 9.
_Ordered_, That the Committee of Claims, to whom was referred, on the
thirtieth ultimo, the memorial of sundry clerks employed in the
different departments, be discharged from the further consideration
thereof, and that the same be referred to the Committee of Revisal and
Unfinished Business.
Mr. RUTLEDGE, from the committee appointed on the part of this House,
jointly, with the committee on the part of the Senate, to ascertain and
report a mode of examining the votes given for President and Vice
President of the United States; of notifying the persons elected of
their election, and the time, place, and manner of administering the
oath of office to the President, reported that the committee had taken
the subject referred to them under consideration, but had come to no
agreement thereupon.
A message from the Senate, informed the House that the Senate would be
ready to receive the House in the Senate Chamber, on Wednesday next, at
twelve o'clock, for the purpose of being present at the opening and
counting of the votes for President of the United States; and that the
Senate have appointed a teller on their part, to make a list of the
votes for President of the United States as they shall be declared.
_Rules for Election of President._
The House proceeded to consider the report made on Friday last, from the
committee appointed to prepare and report rules proper to be observed in
the choice of a President of the United States: Whereupon,
_Ordered_, That the said report be committed to a Committee of the whole
House immediately.
The House, accordingly, resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on
the said report; and, after some time spent therein, the Chairman
reported that the committee had had the said report under consideration,
and directed him to report to the House their agreement to the same,
with an amendment; which he delivered in at the Clerk's table, where the
same was read. The House then proceeded to consider the report:
Whereupon, the amendment reported from the Committee of the whole House
to the said report, was, on the question put thereupon, agreed to by the
House.
A motion was then made and seconded that the House do disagree with the
Committee of the whole House in their agreement to the fourth rule
contained in the said report, in the words following, to wit:
"4th. After commencing the balloting for President, the
House shall not adjourn until a choice is made:"
And, the question being taken thereupon, it passed in the negative--yeas
47, nays 53.
A motion was then made and seconded that the House do disagree with the
Committee of the whole House in their agreement to the fifth rule
contained in the said report, in the words following, to wit:
"5th. The doors of the House shall be closed during the
balloting, except against the officers of the House:"
And, the question being taken thereupon, it passed in the negative--yeas
45, nays 54.
_Resolved_, That this House doth agree with the Committee of the whole
House in their agreement to the said report, as amended, in the words
following, to wit:
"That the following rules be observed in the choice by the
House of Representatives of a President of the United
States, whose term is to commence on the fourth day of
March next.
"1st. In the event of its appearing, upon the counting and
ascertaining of the votes given for President and Vice
President, according to the mode prescribed by the
constitution, that no person has a constitutional majority,
and the same shall have been duly declared and entered on
the journals of this House, the Speaker, accompanied by the
members of the House, shall return to their Chamber.
"2d. Seats shall be provided in this House for the
President and members of the Senate; and notification of
the same shall be made to the Senate.
"3d. The House, on their return from the Senate Chamber, it
being ascertained that the constitutional number of States
were present, shall immediately proceed to choose one of
the persons from whom the choice is to be made for
President; and in case upon the first ballot there shall
not appear to be a majority of the States in favor of one
of them, in such case the House shall continue to ballot
for a President, without interruption by other business,
until it shall appear that a President is duly chosen.
"4th. After commencing the balloting for President, the
House shall not adjourn until a choice be made.
"5th. The doors of the House shall be closed during the
balloting, except against the officers of the House.
"6th. In balloting, the following mode shall be observed,
to wit: The representatives of the respective States shall
be so seated that the delegation of each State shall be
together. The representatives of each State shall, in the
first instance, ballot among themselves, in order to
ascertain the votes of the State; and it shall be allowed,
where deemed necessary by the delegation, to name one or
more persons of the representation, to be tellers of the
ballots. After the vote of each State is ascertained,
duplicates thereof shall be made; and in case the vote of
the State be for one person, then the name of that person
shall be written on each of the duplicates; and in case the
ballots of the State be equally divided, then the word
"_divided_" shall be written on each duplicate, and the
said duplicates shall be deposited in manner hereafter
prescribed, in boxes to be provided. That, for the
conveniently taking the ballots of the several
representatives of the respective States, there be sixteen
ballot boxes provided; and that there be, additionally, two
boxes provided for the purpose of receiving the votes of
the States; that after the delegation of each State shall
have ascertained the vote of the State, the
Sergeant-at-Arms shall carry to the respective delegations
the two ballot boxes, and the delegation of each State, in
the presence and subject to the examination of all the
members of the delegation, shall deposit a duplicate of the
vote of the State in each ballot box; and where there is
more than one representative of a State, the duplicates
shall not both be deposited by the same person. When the
votes of the States are all thus taken in, the
Sergeant-at-Arms shall carry one of the general ballot
boxes to one table, and the other to a second and separate
table. Sixteen members shall then be appointed as tellers
of the ballots; one of whom shall be taken from each State,
and be nominated by the delegation of the State from which
he was taken. The said tellers shall be divided into two
equal sets, according to such agreement as shall be made
among themselves; and one of the said sets of tellers
shall proceed to count the votes in one of the said boxes,
and the other set the votes in the other box; and in the
event of no appointment of teller by any delegation, the
Speaker shall in such case appoint. When the votes of the
States are counted by the respective sets of tellers, the
result shall be reported to the House; and if the reports
agree, the same shall be accepted as the true votes of the
States; but if the reports disagree, the States shall
immediately proceed to a new ballot, in manner aforesaid.
"7th. If either of the persons voted for, shall have a
majority of the votes of all the States, the Speaker shall
declare the same; and official notice thereof shall be
immediately given to the President of the United States,
and to the Senate.
"8th. All questions which shall arise after the balloting
commences, and which shall be decided by the House voting
_per capita_ to be incidental to the power of choosing the
President, and which shall require the decision of the
House, shall be decided by States, and without debate; and
in case of an equal division of the votes of States, the
question shall be lost."
TUESDAY, February 10.
_Credentials of Members._
Mr. DENT, from the standing Committee of Elections, made a report, which
he delivered in at the Clerk's table, where the same was read, and is as
follows:
"The Committee of Elections having examined the credentials
of several members claiming seats in this House, report:
"That, by two certificates of the Governor of
Massachusetts, under seal of the State, and dated the ninth
day of January, one thousand eight hundred and one, it
appears by one of the said certificates that Ebenezer
Mattoon is duly elected to serve as a member of the House
of Representatives of the United States, in the room of
Samuel Lyman, stated therein to have resigned; and by the
other certificate, that Levi Lincoln is duly elected as
aforesaid, in the place of Dwight Foster, appointed a
Senator of the United States.
"It appears, also, by a letter under the signature of the
Governor of Pennsylvania, dated the twenty-first day of
January, one thousand eight hundred and one, and addressed
to the Speaker, accompanied by authenticated documents,
that John Stewart is duly chosen, in the place of Thomas
Hartley, deceased.
"The committee are of opinion that Ebenezer Mattoon is
entitled to a seat, in the place of Samuel Lyman, resigned;
Levi Lincoln, in the place of Dwight Foster, appointed a
Senator of the United States; and John Stewart, in the
place of Thomas Hartley, deceased."
_Election of President._
_Resolved_, That this House will attend in the Chamber of the Senate on
Wednesday next at twelve o'clock, for the purpose of being present at
the opening and counting of the votes for President and Vice President
of the United States; that Mr. RUTLEDGE and Mr. NICHOLAS be appointed
tellers, to act jointly with the teller appointed on the part of the
Senate, to make a list of the votes for President and Vice President of
the United States, as they shall be declared; that the result shall be
delivered to the President of the Senate, who shall announce the state
of the vote, which shall be entered on the journals; and if it shall
appear that a choice hath been made agreeably to the constitution, such
entry on the journals shall be deemed a sufficient declaration thereof.
_Ordered_, That the Clerk of this House do acquaint the Senate
therewith.
WEDNESDAY, February 11.