I suppose so.

May not the truth be rather, as we were saying just now, that desire is

the cause of friendship; for that which desires is dear to that which

is desired at the time of desiring it? and may not the other theory have

been only a long story about nothing?

Likely enough.

But surely, I said, he who desires, desires that of which he is in want?

Yes.

And that of which he is in want is dear to him?

True.

And he is in want of that of which he is deprived?

Certainly.

Then love, and desire, and friendship would appear to be of the natural

or congenial. Such, Lysis and Menexenus, is the inference.

They assented.

Then if you are friends, you must have natures which are congenial to

one another?

Certainly, they both said.

And I say, my boys, that no one who loves or desires another would ever

have loved or desired or affected him, if he had not been in some way

congenial to him, either in his soul, or in his character, or in his

manners, or in his form.

Yes, yes, said Menexenus. But Lysis was silent.

Then, I said, the conclusion is, that what is of a congenial nature must

be loved.

It follows, he said.

Then the lover, who is true and no counterfeit, must of necessity be

loved by his love.

Lysis and Menexenus gave a faint assent to this; and Hippothales changed

into all manner of colours with delight.

Here, intending to revise the argument, I said: Can we point out any

difference between the congenial and the like? For if that is possible,

then I think, Lysis and Menexenus, there may be some sense in our

argument about friendship. But if the congenial is only the like, how

will you get rid of the other argument, of the uselessness of like to

like in as far as they are like; for to say that what is useless is

dear, would be absurd? Suppose, then, that we agree to distinguish

between the congenial and the like--in the intoxication of argument,

that may perhaps be allowed.

Very true.

And shall we further say that the good is congenial, and the evil

uncongenial to every one? Or again that the evil is congenial to the

evil, and the good to the good; and that which is neither good nor evil

to that which is neither good nor evil?

They agreed to the latter alternative.

Then, my boys, we have again fallen into the old discarded error; for

the unjust will be the friend of the unjust, and the bad of the bad, as

well as the good of the good.

That appears to be the result.

But again, if we say that the congenial is the same as the good, in that

case the good and he only will be the friend of the good.

True.

But that too was a position of ours which, as you will remember, has

been already refuted by ourselves.

We remember.

Then what is to be done? Or rather is there anything to be done? I can

only, like the wise men who argue in courts, sum up the arguments:--If

neither the beloved, nor the lover, nor the like, nor the unlike, nor

the good, nor the congenial, nor any other of whom we spoke--for there

were such a number of them that I cannot remember all--if none of these

are friends, I know not what remains to be said.

Here I was going to invite the opinion of some older person, when

suddenly we were interrupted by the tutors of Lysis and Menexenus, who

came upon us like an evil apparition with their brothers, and bade them

go home, as it was getting late. At first, we and the by-standers drove

them off; but afterwards, as they would not mind, and only went on

shouting in their barbarous dialect, and got angry, and kept calling the

boys--they appeared to us to have been drinking rather too much at the

Hermaea, which made them difficult to manage--we fairly gave way and

broke up the company.

I said, however, a few words to the boys at parting: O Menexenus and

Lysis, how ridiculous that you two boys, and I, an old boy, who would

fain be one of you, should imagine ourselves to be friends--this is what

the by-standers will go away and say--and as yet we have not been able

to discover what is a friend!

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