ANDREW JOHNSON.

EXECUTIVE MANSION, _February 10, 1868_.

General U.S. GRANT,

_Commanding Armies of the United States, Washington, D.C._

GENERAL: The extraordinary character of your letter of the 3d instant[35]

would seem to preclude any reply on my part; but the manner in which

publicity has been given to the correspondence of which that letter

forms a part and the grave questions which are involved induce me to

take this mode of giving, as a proper sequel to the communications which

have passed between us, the statements of the five members of the

Cabinet who were present on the occasion of our conversation on the 14th

ultimo. Copies of the letters which they have addressed to me upon the

subject are accordingly herewith inclosed.

You speak of my letter of the 31st ultimo[36] as a reiteration of the

"many and gross misrepresentations" contained in certain newspaper

articles, and reassert the correctness of the statements contained in

your communication of the 28th ultimo,[37] adding--and here I give your

own words--"anything in yours in reply to it to the contrary

notwithstanding."

When a controversy upon matters of fact reaches the point to which this

has been brought, further assertion or denial between the immediate

parties should cease, especially where upon either side it loses

the character of the respectful discussion which is required by the

relations in which the parties stand to each other and degenerates in

tone and temper. In such a case, if there is nothing to rely upon but

the opposing statements, conclusions must be drawn from those statements

alone and from whatever intrinsic probabilities they afford in favor of

or against either of the parties. I should not shrink from this test in

this controversy; but, fortunately, it is not left to this test alone.

There were five Cabinet officers present at the conversation the detail

of which in my letter of the 28th [31st[37]] ultimo you allow yourself

to say contains "many and gross misrepresentations." These gentlemen

heard that conversation and have read my statement. They speak for

themselves, and I leave the proof without a word of comment.

I deem it proper before concluding this communication to notice some of

the statements contained in your letter.

You say that a performance of the promises alleged to have been made by

you to the President "would have involved a resistance to law and an

inconsistency with the whole history of my connection with the

suspension of Mr. Stanton." You then state that you had fears the

President would, on the removal of Mr. Stanton, appoint someone in his

place who would embarrass the Army in carrying out the reconstruction

acts, and add:

"It was to prevent such an appointment that I accepted the office of

Secretary of War _ad interim_, and not for the purpose of enabling you

to get rid of Mr. Stanton by withholding it from him in opposition to

law, or, not doing so myself, surrendering it to one who would, as the

statements and assumptions in your communication plainly indicate was

sought."

First of all, you here admit that from the very beginning of what

you term "the whole history" of your connection with Mr. Stanton's

suspension you intended to circumvent the President. It was to carry out

that intent that you accepted the appointment. This was in your mind at

the time of your acceptance. It was not, then, in obedience to the order

of your superior, as has heretofore been supposed, that you assumed the

duties of the office. You knew it was the President's purpose to prevent

Mr. Stanton from resuming the office of Secretary of War, and you

intended to defeat that purpose. You accepted the office, not in the

interest of the President but of Mr. Stanton. If this purpose, so

entertained by you, had been confined to yourself; if when accepting

the office you had done so with a mental reservation to frustrate the

President, it would have been a tacit deception. In the ethics of some

persons such a course is allowable. But you can not stand even upon

that questionable ground. The "history" of your connection with this

transaction, as written by yourself, places you in a different

predicament, and shows that you not only concealed your design from

the President, but induced him to suppose that you would carry out his

purpose to keep Mr. Stanton out of office by retaining it yourself after

an attempted restoration by the Senate, so as to require Mr. Stanton to

establish his right by judicial decision.

I now give that part of this "history" as written by yourself in your

letter of the 28th ultimo:[38]

"Some time after I assumed the duties of Secretary of War _ad interim_

the President asked me my views as to the course Mr. Stanton would have

to pursue, in case the Senate should not concur in his suspension, to

obtain possession of his office. My reply was, in substance, that

Mr. Stanton would have to appeal to the courts to reinstate him,

illustrating my position by citing the ground I had taken in the case

of the Baltimore police commissioners."

Now, at that time, as you admit in your letter of the 3d instant,[39]

you held the office for the very object of defeating an appeal to the

courts. In that letter you say that in accepting the office one motive

was to prevent the President from appointing some other person who would

retain possession, and thus make judicial proceedings necessary. You

knew the President was unwilling to trust the office with anyone who

would not by holding it compel Mr. Stanton to resort to the courts.

You perfectly understood that in this interview, "some time" after

you accepted the office, the President, not content with your silence,

desired an expression of your views, and you answered him that Mr.

Stanton "would have to appeal to the courts." If the President reposed

confidence _before_ he knew your views, and that confidence had been

violated, it might have been said he made a mistake; but a violation of

confidence reposed _after_ that conversation was no mistake of his nor

of yours. It is the fact only that needs be stated, that at the date of

this conversation you did not intend to hold the office with the purpose

of forcing Mr. Stanton into court, but did hold it then and had accepted

it to prevent that course from being carried out. In other words, you

said to the President, "That is the proper course," and you said to

yourself, "I have accepted this office, and now hold it to defeat that

course." The excuse you make in a subsequent paragraph of that letter

of the 28th ultimo,[38] that afterwards you changed your views as to

what would be a proper course, has nothing to do with the point now

under consideration. The point is that _before_ you changed your views

you had secretly determined to do the very thing which at last you

did--surrender the office to Mr. Stanton. You may have changed your

views as to the law, but you certainly did not change your views as

to the course you had marked out for yourself from the beginning.

I will only notice one more statement in your letter of the 3d

instant[39]--that the performance of the promises which it is alleged

were made by you would have involved you in the resistance of law. I

know of no statute that would have been violated had you, carrying out

your promises in good faith, tendered your resignation when you

concluded not to be made a party in any legal proceedings. You add:

"I am in a measure confirmed in this conclusion by your recent orders

directing me to disobey orders from the Secretary of War, _my superior_

and your subordinate, without having countermanded his authority to

issue the orders I am to disobey."

On the 24th[39] ultimo you addressed a note to the President requesting

in writing an order given to you verbally five days before to disregard

orders from Mr. Stanton as Secretary of War until you "knew from the

President himself that they were his orders."

On the 29th,[40] in compliance with your request, I did give you

instructions in writing "not to obey any order from the War Department

assumed to be issued by the direction of the President unless such order

is known by the General Commanding the armies of the United States to

have been authorized by the Executive."

There are some orders which a Secretary of War may issue without the

authority of the President; there are others which he issues simply as

the agent of the President, and which purport to be "by direction" of

the President. For such orders the President is responsible, and he

should therefore know and understand what they are before giving such

"direction." Mr. Stanton states in his letter of the 4th instant,[41]

which accompanies the published correspondence, that he "has had no

correspondence with the President since the 12th of August last;" and

he further says that since he resumed the duties of the office he has

continued to discharge them "without any personal or written

communication with the President;" and he adds, "No orders have been

issued from this Department in the name of the President with my

knowledge, and I have received no orders from him."

It thus seems that Mr. Stanton now discharges the duties of the War

Department without any reference to the President and without using his

name.

My order to you had only reference to orders "assumed to be issued by

the direction of the President." It would appear from Mr. Stanton's

letter that you have received no such orders from him. However, in your

note to the President of the 30th ultimo,[42] in which you acknowledge

the receipt of the written order of the 29th,[43] you say that you have

been informed by Mr. Stanton that he has not received any order limiting

his authority to issue orders to the Army, according to the practice

of the Department, and state that "while this authority to the War

Department is not countermanded it will be satisfactory evidence to

me that any orders issued from the War Department by direction of the

President are authorized by the Executive."

The President issues an order to you to obey no order from the War

Department purporting to be made "by the direction of the President"

until you have referred it to him for his approval. You reply that you

have received the President's order and will not obey it, but will obey

an order purporting to be given by his direction _if it comes from the

War Department_. You will not obey the direct order of the President,

but will obey his indirect order. If, as you say, there has been a

practice in the War Department to issue orders in the name of the

President without his direction, does not the precise order you have

requested and have received change the practice as to the General of

the Army? Could not the President countermand any such order issued to

you from the War Department? If you should receive an order from that

Department, issued in the name of the President, to do a special act,

and an order directly from the President himself not to do the act, is

there a doubt which you are to obey? You answer the question when you

say to the President, in your letter of the 3d instant,[44] the Secretary

of War is "my superior and your subordinate," and yet you refuse

obedience to the superior out of a deference to the subordinate.

Without further comment upon the insubordinate attitude which you

have assumed, I am at a loss to know how you can relieve yourself

from obedience to the orders of the President, who is made by the

Constitution the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy, and is

therefore the official superior as well of the General of the Army

as of the Secretary of War.

Respectfully, yours,

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