Mr. Bray falls into the same error as "Bystander" in accusing

Ingersoll of attacking a theology which, he tells us, is "opposed to

all reason," and now "well nigh obsolete." I would simply say if it is

"obsolete," it is the stock in trade of the Christian Church today. Take

away from it this obsolete theology (which is "opposed to all reason,")

and there is nothing left of Christianity worth speaking of; for the

morality Christianity contains does not of right belong to it It is

Pagan. It has been _appropriated_ by Christianity, and is not original

with it. There is not a single moral precept in the Bible, but was

taught before that book was written. (For proof of this, see Sir

Wm. Jones, Max Muller, Lord Amberly, and "Supernatural Religion.")

Therefore, when you take away the dogmas of Christianity--its "obsolete

theology"--you take away Christianity itself to all intents and

purposes. And hence the utter inconsistency and absurdity of our

opponents in taxing us with merely attacking a dead theology, when that

dead theology is all there is of a religion which they defend and

wish to perpetuate. Seeing, then, that the theology of Christianity is

admittedly dead, why not give it up and come over to us? for all you

have left--the brotherhood of man--belongs to us: it is our RELIGION OF

HUMANITY.

As the only salient point, to my mind, in Mr. Bray's reply to Ingersoll

is dealt with in the following letter, which I addressed to the

_Spectator_, and which appeared in its columns, I have only space here

to reproduce that letter:--

To the Editor of the Canadian Spectator:

Sir,--In your issue of the 10th instant, in a discourse in reply to Col.

Ingersoll, I find the following:--

"The lecturer, who seemed to imagine that he understood everything else,

was compelled to acknowledge that he did not understand why there should

be so much hunger and pain and misery. Why, the world over, life should

live upon life. When he has cast Jehovah out of the Universe, he is

pained and puzzled to account for the presence of wrong and sorrow. With

God he cannot account for it; without God he cannot account for it. If

Col. Ingersoll, or any other of that school, can give me an intelligent

theory of life, and satisfactory solution of the problem of the presence

of evil and pain without God, I am prepared to consider it."

Now, Sir, having the honor (or dishonor, as the case may be,) to belong

to that school, I venture to take up the gauntlet thus thrown down. From

our stand-point we are able, we think, to give an intelligent theory of

these things; and although it may not be wholly devoid of mystery, we

claim it is less mysterious than the Christian theory. We claim that

the Materialistic explanation of the Universe and its phenomena is more

reasonable and less mysterious than the Theistic; and this is why

we find ourselves compelled to adopt it and become Atheists. On the

Materialistic hypothesis of development and evolution we are certainly

_not_ "puzzled to account for the presence of wrong and sorrow," however

much we may be pained at their fearful prevalence. It is only on the

hypothesis of being under the governance of an omnipotent and infinitely

_benevolent_ Being that we are utterly unable to account for such-a

state of things. Although the ultimate tendency of the forces of

the-Universe seems to be towards a higher, and higher, and more perfect

condition, not only for man, but all animals, and even plants, yet

these-forces are, as Science abundantly proves, utterly without

mercy--without pity for man or any other animal. Therefore, on the

evolution philosophy of things, we can reasonably predicate pain,

sorrow, and wrong; and are not puzzled at their existence. It is only on

the theory of a _good_ God controlling the Universe that we stand dumb

with confusion and wonderment in the presence of all this woe, pain,

misery, and wrong-with which the world is filled--this terrible

"struggle for life," where the-strong prey upon the weak, where animal

eats animal, and man eats-man!

The theologians have had upwards of two thousand years to reduce the

Materialistic paradoxes of Epicurus on the existence of evil, but have

they done so? If there be a God, and He is all-powerful, He _could_

remove the _surplus_ evil and pain from the world, and if He is all-good

He _would_ remove it, is an argument which has never yet been answered

by a Paley, a Butler, a Dawson, or any other Christian Theist or Bible

apologist. I use the phrase "_surplus_ evil and pain" for this reason:

As a sort of apology for the rank malevolence abroad in the world, and

as an argument for the existence of a beneficent God, Christian Theists

tell us that pain is necessary as an antecedent to the proper enjoyment

of pleasure; that it is necessary to the growth and development of

character; that the storm of the ocean is an essential pre-requisite to

the adequate enjoyment of the subsequent calm; that all smooth sailing

would be monotonous and insipid. Now, we will admit this for the sake

of the argument; but there yet remains the mass of _surplus_ evil to

be accounted for, which is wholly unnecessary for such corrective and

distributive purposes. It may, perhaps, be necessary that the tempest

toss the ship about on the bosom of the ocean in order that the living

freight may have a keener appreciation of the succeeding calm, and also

to develop awe and sublimity in their breasts; but to accomplish this it

is scarcely to the purpose to send all to the bottom of the ocean! That

we may have a proper relish for our food and a due appreciation of the

blessings of a good appetite, it may be necessary that we feel the pangs

of hunger and starvation occasionally; but to give us this wholesome

discipline it would seem hardly necessary that millions of human beings

should actually be starved to death!

Now, on the theory of _inexorable law_* instead of a _beneficent

Providence_, we are not surprised that a ship which is not strong enough

to ride the storm should go to the bottom, even though five hundred

bishops and clergymen be aboard supplicating an unknown God for succor.

On the theory of inexorable and merciless law in which we are fast

bound, we are not "puzzled" that millions of human beings should

starve to death when these laws or conditions of Nature are violated in

over-population and a false political and social economy. Or when a Tay

bridge goes down with its living freight under the pressure of train

and tempest, the Atheist is neither surprised nor puzzled: but the

Christian, who worships a benevolent (?) God and believes that not a

hair falls from his head without His notice, can only look at such a

malevolent horror in dumb silence and amazement--he has no explanation.

Our theory of the presence of evil in the world is, therefore, at

least rational; but, is the Christian theory rational? Is it rational

to-suppose that all the pain, sorrow, and evil in the world have been

caused by the puerile circumstance of a woman eating an apple? This

would be as monstrously unjust as it is irrational and absurd.

As to the origin and maintenance of life "without God," it is quite as

comprehensible and rational without God as with one with the Christian

conditions and qualifications. An universe of matter containing

the "promise and potency of all forms and qualities of life" is

as intelligible and comprehensible as a God _outside_ the Universe

embodying the potency of all life. From the time that Lucretius declared

that "Nature is seen to do all things spontaneously of herself without

the meddling of the Gods," and Bruno that matter is the "universal

mother who brings forth all things as the fruit of her own womb," down

to Prof. Tyndall, who discerns in matter "the promise and potency of

every form and quality of life," scientists have never been able to

discover the least intrusion of any creative power into the operations

of

* Materialists, in using the phrase "law of Nature," use a

popular expression, but not in the popular sense as

presupposing a law-giver. By "law of Nature" we simply mean

natural sequence--the uniformity of Nature's operations.

Nature and the affairs of this world, or the least trace of interference

by any God or gods. In the primeval ages of ignorance and barbarism the

gods were supposed to do everything, from the production of wind, rain,

tempest, thunder and lightning, earthquakes, &c, down to dyspepsia

and potato-bugs. Science now explains all these things and a thousand

others. Indeed, in modern philosophy there is no room for the gods in

the Universe, and nothing left for them to do. And there cannot be any

room _beyond_ it for them, for "above Nature we cannot rise."

The Materialistic theory (and to it we subscribe) is that there is

but _one existence_, the _Universe_, and that it is eternal--without

beginning or end--that the matter of the Universe never could have been

created, for _ex nihilo nihil fit_, (from nothing nothing can come,) and

that it contains within itself the potency adequate to the production of

all phenomena. This we think to be more conceivable and intelligent

than the Christian theory that there are two existences--God and the

Universe--and that there was a time when there was but one existence,

God, and that after an indefinite period of quiescence and "masterly

inactivity" He finally created a Universe either out of Himself or out

of nothing--either one of which propositions is philosophically absurd.

And in either case, to say that God would be infinite would be equally

absurd.

Respectfully,

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