The neutral Ministers here seem to wish to intermeddle in the proposed

pacification. There is a general jealousy among them of the house of

Bourbon, and a particular animosity against this branch of it. This I

have long remarked, and I have now more frequent occasions than

heretofore. I am afraid the rumors of peace will slacken the

preparations of the Dutch for war. The hopes of a speedy general

pacification, and a sense of complaisance and apprehension of the

Empress of Russia, may procrastinate the treaty between the United

States and them. I write these conjectures with diffidence, as indeed

I do all which depend on my own judgment.

I am busy at present in arranging the public accounts. The projected

bank employs so much of M. Cabarrus's time, and that of his clerks,

that it is possible I may be obliged to follow the Court to St

Ildefonso, to which place the king removes the 14th instant, before I

can obtain such a settlement of them, as may enable me to transmit the

general account to Mr Jay, for his approbation. In the meantime, I

draw, and shall still be obliged to draw, on Dr Franklin, to enable me

to discharge the public bills accepted by Mr Jay. Exchange is every

day more to our disadvantage. The depreciation of the royal billets is

now at 3-1/4 to 3-1/2 per cent, and I make no doubt will be at 6 per

cent in two months. The Court has been again obliged to apply to the

Gromios for assistance, whose privileges, it appears from the

establishment of the bank, it meant to deprive them of. This

circumstance marks their distress for money, and as some say, the want

of system in their conduct.

The Duc de Crillon has set out for the camp before Gibraltar; the

operations, however, will not seriously commence before the month of

August, if in all that month. The expectations of success are

sanguine. I heard the Duke himself speak with great confidence on the

subject. The combined fleet left Cadiz the 4th instant; it consists of

thirtytwo sail of the line, and some frigates, and proceeds

immediately to the British channel. I avail myself of a courier from

the French Ambassador to forward copies of this letter to the ports of

France. The Count de Montmorin continues to give the same proofs of

attachment to the interests of the States, and of personal kindness to

myself, that I have ever experienced since my arrival in Spain. I beg

leave to remind you to send me a cypher, and to entreat your

instructions and intelligence addressed directly to myself; otherwise

I have few opportunities of manifesting my zeal for the public

service, or of acquiring your personal esteem.

I have the honor to be, &c.

WILLIAM CARMICHAEL.

FOOTNOTES:

[13] The letter here referred to is missing. Mr Jay left Madrid for

Paris about the 20th of May.

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ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL.

Philadelphia, July 6th, 1782.

Sir,

Since my letter of May last, I have been favored with yours of the

18th and 27th of February. As they contained many things of

importance, which we had received through no other channel, I

communicated their contents to Congress, to whom I have reason to

think they were very acceptable. The great changes that have taken

place in the administration of Britain, make us extremely desirous of

learning minutely the measures they are pursuing. Unfortunately it is

long since we have received any other information from Europe, than

that contained in the public prints. Our Ministers abroad do not keep

up such a communication with the sea-ports as to avail themselves of

the opportunities, that are almost weekly afforded, by which means the

intelligence they transmit, if not of a private nature, is almost

always forestalled.

We are at present in a state of absolute inactivity here. We are not

sufficiently strong to attack the enemy in their works, without some

naval aid; nor can they attack us with any prospect of success.

Congress employ the present leisure in forming and enforcing a system

of finance, which, notwithstanding all the difficulties it has to

struggle with, will, I hope, shortly place our affairs on a more

respectable footing; particularly, if any of those powers who are

interested in supporting us, shall afford the aid we have a right to

expect.

Among other changes that have taken place, there is one I believe you

will be pleased with; in the payment of your salaries, which in future

will be paid here upon my certificate. I, as your agent, will vest the

money in bills, and remit them to you or Dr Franklin, with orders for

him to remit the money to you, or pay it to your order. This will

render your payments more regular, and free you from the appearance of

dependence, which must be disagreeable to you. I remit by this

conveyance to him, the amount of one quarter's salary, commencing the

1st of January last, and ending the 1st of April, which I have vested

in bills at the present rate of exchange, which is six shillings

threepence this money, for five livres, by which you gain almost five

and a half per cent. You will be charged here two and a half per cent

premium, which is the usual commission, and I shall consider myself as

your agent in this business, unless you should choose to appoint some

other. Your accounts for the next quarter will be made up immediately;

the money vested in a bill upon Dr Franklin, which I will remit him by

the next opportunity. Send me a general state of your account, that I

may get it settled for you, and the arrears, if any, discharged. I

could wish much to have a cypher with you, but find it very difficult

to send one. Let me have one, if you have a safe conveyance, if a

favorable opportunity offers from here, I will transmit you one.

I am, with great esteem and regard, &c.

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

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TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

St Ildefonso, July 8th, 1782.

Sir,

On the 5th and the 12th ultimo I did myself the honor of addressing

you from Madrid. On the 2d instant I came to this place, having waited

in the capital some days longer than I intended, for the purpose of

arranging finally the public accounts with M. Cabarrus; but finding

that that gentleman's occupations prevented him from stating them in

the manner directed by Mr Jay, and having by my stay, in compliance

with his request, convinced him that the settlement and discharge of

the balance still due, depended on himself, I judged it proper to

follow the Court hither, in order to have frequent opportunities of

pressing the Minister to pay attention to the different memorials

presented by Mr Jay; of which copies have been transmitted by him to

Congress, and to procure such information as it might be proper to lay

before you. I did not strongly urge the settlement of the accounts

above mentioned, because Dr Franklin had requested Mr Jay to give him

as much time as possible for the payment of the sums due here,

although I am persuaded the delay will be prejudicial, as it is

probable the exchange will be more to our disadvantage every day.

On the 3d instant, I waited on the Count de Florida Blanca and M. Del

Campo. I found the former in conference with the French Ambassador,

and as that had been long, and I knew he would be much fatigued, and

also that he expected the Russian Minister and the Ambassador of the

Emperor, who have of late received frequent couriers, I shortened my

visit, which passed in amicable assurances on his part and hopes on

mine, that his Excellency would put it as much in my power, as it was

my inclination to contribute to a lasting harmony between the two

countries, by enabling me to inform Congress of the favorable

disposition of his Majesty, and at the same time of the measures taken

by his Ministers to redress the grievances, which Mr Jay had so often

laid before him. He desired me to mention these affairs in detail to

M. Del Campo, and after repeating assurances of good will, &c., he

proceeded to inform me, that he had received a copy of a letter, which

Mr Jay on his arrival at Paris had written to the Count d'Aranda,

adding, that he was sorry he could not continue the conversation at

present, for that he expected the Ministers above mentioned every

moment, but that on the Saturday following he would be glad to see me,

to talk over many matters necessary to discuss at this crisis. I took

my leave, and actually met the Imperial and Russian Ministers at the

door, with M. Del Campo, whom I next went to see.

I had a long conversation, the material points of which, after having

reminded him of the memorials, &c., presented by Mr Jay, turned on the

manner in which the propositions of the new British Administration

would be received in America. I had the good fortune to answer in the

most decided manner, that all proposals for a separate treaty would be

unanimously rejected, for on my return from this visit to my lodgings,

I found Mr Clonard, who delivered me the letter you did me the honor

to write me on the 1st of May, and who informed me of many of the

subsequent transactions. The same day at dinner, the Count de

Montmorin showed me a letter from the Chevalier de la Luzerne, in

which he informs him, that Congress had rejected the propositions made

by General Carleton, and that all the States would follow the example

of Maryland. This conduct has a great and good effect in Europe. The

same day the king spoke at table of the news, and praised greatly the

probity of the Americans, raising his voice in such a manner that all

the foreign ministers might hear him. I have conversed with several of

these since, and find them unanimous in their opinion that the wisest

measure Great Britain can take, is to conclude a treaty acknowledging

our independence.

The couriers received, and the audiences demanded by the Russian and

Imperial Representatives, excited my attention, and I have discovered

that they have been once more directed by their Courts to make an

offer of their mediation to his Catholic Majesty. They made this

communication on the 3d instant, and have received their answer; for

on the 6th the Count de Kaunitz despatched a courier. In my next I

hope to communicate the answer of this Court. I suspect England is at

the bottom of this business. The combined fleet is probably at this

time in the English channel, where it will be reinforced by a squadron

of French ships commanded by M. de la Motte Piquet. The preparations

for the siege of Gibraltar are pushed with vigor. I have not yet had

the honor to hear from Mr Jay. My last letter from Dr Franklin is

dated the 11th ultimo. Messrs Grenville and Oswald were then at Paris,

but had not yet received their full powers. Neither had Spain nor

Holland sent instructions to their Ministers, so that the conferences

could not properly be opened.

I have the honor to enclose in the first copy of this, a letter which

I received the 4th instant from M. Dumas. The letters brought by Mr

Clonard for Mr Jay were forwarded by the same gentleman. I remain

without other instructions than what are contained in yours of the 1st

of May. If Mr Jay should be detained at Paris, I shall be without any

information but what I may obtain by my private correspondence and my

own industry; I beg leave to submit this to your consideration.

I have the honor to be, &c.

WILLIAM CARMICHAEL.

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TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

St Ildefonso, July 22d, 1782.

Sir,

In my last of the 8th instant, I had the honor to inform you of an

offer of mediation renewed to this Court by those of Petersburg and

Vienna. I have since been told, that the Count de Florida Blanca's

answer was to the following purport; "that his Catholic Majesty is

highly sensible of the offers made by their Imperial Majesties to

promote the establishment of the public tranquillity, but that before

accepting their propositions it is necessary to consult his ally, and

for this purpose instructions will be sent to his Ambassador at Paris,

who, in order to prevent delay, will at the same time be authorised to

communicate the answer to the Russian and Imperial Ministers at the

Court of Versailles." I had this information from a person connected

with the Ambassador of the Court of Vienna.

The Emperor is full of the project of removing his East India Company

from Trieste to Ostend, and of augmenting the commerce of his

subjects, particularly in the Low Countries. The continuation of the

war is favorable to his designs, at all events he will seek his own

advantage in the proposed mediation.

All the neutral powers seem desirous of procuring stipulations

favorable to their commerce and navigation, particularly in the

Mediterranean, and for this purpose all appear to wish a general

Congress. Perhaps upon the whole it would be more for the honor and

permanent advantage of the United States, to have their independence

acknowledged and guarantied in an assembly of this nature, than by a

particular treaty between the belligerent powers. As Mr Jay is to

negotiate with the Count d'Aranda at Paris the proposed treaty, my

business here is confined to the arrangement of the public accounts,

and the payment of the bills still due, the collecting intelligence,

and the solicitation of redress of the various complaints laid before

the Ministry in behalf of individuals. For this last purpose I wait

on the Count de Florida Blanca, and M. Del Campo, from time to time,

and in a respectful manner solicit their attention to these affairs.

Personally I have no reason to complain; in my political character I

should have more, if I did not know, that the first powers in Europe

are treated with the same inattention and delay. I mention this not to

excuse the conduct of this Court, but to convince you, that it is not

singular with respect to us. I have in some instances promises of

redress, and it is to be hoped, that circumstances, patience, and good

humor, will terminate these affairs to the satisfaction, in some

measure, of the parties interested.

While Mr Jay remains at Paris, as the public despatches are addressed

to him, I shall be deprived of intelligence from America, except what

I may acquire by private correspondence from thence. I have not had

the honor to hear from Mr Jay since he left this place, which may have

been occasioned by delay or ill health on the road and afterwards. I

have no correspondence with Messrs Adams and Dana, from whom I might

receive, and to whom I might contribute hints, that might be of

service to the public interest. Messrs Grenville and Oswald are still

at Paris, but on this subject you will have from others much more

accurate information than it is in my power to give you.

The Count d'Artois is expected here tomorrow, and will be received and

treated as an Infant of Spain. This visit is highly pleasing to the

royal family. He is expected with impatience. Nothing worth your

notice has yet passed at Gibraltar. The besiegers and the besieged,

equally prepare the one for the attack, the other for the defence of

the place. A courier extraordinary from France, brings advice of the

capture of eighteen transports and merchantmen bound to Quebec and

Newfoundland. Unhappily the New York fleet, which sailed with the

vessels captured, had two or three days before separated from them. A

fifty gun ship and a frigate, which escorted them, escaped. I have not

yet received M. Cabarrus's account. When these are once delivered and

settled, I shall take the earliest opportunity of transmitting to

Congress and to Mr Jay, copies of all the public accounts in this

country. I entreat your indulgence, and frequent remembrance of me.

I have the honor to be, &c.

WILLIAM CARMICHAEL.

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TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

St Ildefonso, September 8th, 1782.

Sir,

My last were of the 17th and 26th ultimo, I am still without the least

information from America, since the 1st of May, the date of your last

letter. His Excellency, the Count de Florida Blanca, whom I had the

honor to see yesterday, seemed apprehensive, that Congress might be

induced to believe, from the capitulation accorded to the British at

Providence, that this Court had not after what happened at Pensacola

instructed its commanders to take care in future, that the garrisons

of such places as his Catholic Majesty's forces might reduce, should

be disposed of in such a manner as not to be prejudicial to any of the

belligerent powers. His Excellency assured me how much he should be

concerned if an oversight of the General employed on this occasion,

should create a misunderstanding injurious to the harmony which the

King wished to cultivate with America, and prayed me to take the

earliest opportunity of conveying these sentiments to Congress. He

proceeded to inform me, that immediately after the Court received the

articles of capitulation at Pensacola, instructions were sent to M.

Galvez, to oblige the enemy to consent in future to the transportation

of their prisoners to Europe; that these orders did not reach him

until he had left the Havana, previous to the necessary arrangements

for the expedition against the Bahama Islands.

I assured his Excellency, that I found myself happy in having an

occasion to represent every instance of his Majesty's good will, and

begged leave to remind him, that several complaints sustained by

citizens of America laid before his Excellency by Mr Jay, and since

his departure by myself, remained unredressed. That I presumed his

Excellency had given the necessary orders for their relief, but that

his Majesty's favorable intentions had been hitherto frustrated by the

delay, and in some cases by the injustice of persons employed in the

service of Government. I insinuated how agreeable it would be to me to

remove the unfavorable impressions, that his conduct had made or might

make in the breast of my countrymen, by having it in my power to

communicate the orders which had been given, or which his Majesty

might be pleased to renew, for this effect. I particularized the case

of the Lord Howe, an English vessel with a valuable cargo, brought

into Cadiz by part of her crew, Americans, detained by order of the

Admiralty, and the captors confined in some measure as prisoners of

war. I represented in the strongest terms, the little respect paid to

a positive resolution of Congress, granting to the captors of vessels

the property taken in this manner; a resolution occasioned by the

notorious injustice of the common enemy, who commenced this practice

of seducing American seamen, and encouraging their own to enter into

our service with the purpose of afterwards betraying the confidence

reposed in them.

His Excellency desired me to pass him an office in French on the

subject, and promised me an answer in writing, with the intention I

imagine of its being sent to Congress. You will please to observe that

the negligence of Mr Harrison's banker, to whom he addressed his

letters to me on this subject, retarded my knowledge of the detention

of this vessel. I had, however, spoken to M. Del Campo, immediately on

hearing of its arrival at Cadiz, and repeated to him the substance of

the resolution of Congress, from an apprehension that the officers of

that port would observe the same conduct, as those of the Canaries had

done in the case of the Dover cutter. I avoided mentioning

particularly the latter affair, until I should have obtained the

promised answer, as if that proves favorable, as I expect it will, I

shall renew with redoubled ardor my representations on this head. They

are, however, so much in want of money here, that I fear the captors

will be obliged to wait some time for theirs. This scarcity of cash

occasions the exaction of the duties at Cadiz and Bilboa, complained

of by Mr Harrison and others. I have employed all the means in my

power to convince not only the Count de Florida Blanca, but also the

Ministers of Finance and the Indies, of the impolicy as well as the

injustice of this measure.

I have engaged several persons, who have their confidence to second

me, and I hope that good humor, patience, and above all, frequent

personal solicitations, will obtain at least a diminution of these

duties, an object of great importance to our commerce. In the mean

time, I have advised Mr Harrison and others to make no payments on the

pretext that the affair is before the Ministry, for refunding is

contrary to the spirit of this country. Important news may soon be

expected from Gibraltar, at least my letters inform me that the attack

is to be made this day, for that everything would be ready for the

purpose. As I have very minute details of all that passes there from

persons at head quarters, I hope I shall be able to give you a

succinct relation of the operations. This correspondence is of a

delicate nature for the parties concerned, and therefore I shall not

hazard sending copies of my letters but by the safest conveyances. I

am promised a drawing of the so much talked of floating batteries,

which, as the nature and novelty of their construction may excite

curiosity, I will forward the instant I receive it. I hope soon to

have the honor to hear from you, and to have instructions for my

future government. With sincere wishes that my conduct may not be

displeasing to Congress, and with the highest respect,

I have the honor to be, &c.

WILLIAM CARMICHAEL.

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ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL.

Philadelphia, September 12th, 1782.

Sir,

All my letters of late have begun with complaints of neglect on the

part of our Ministers, in not transmitting early and full intelligence

of what is passing in Europe at this interesting period. That there

may, however, be one exception, I will not say a word on this subject

to you, only reminding you, that the last despatches we have been

favored with from you are those of the 18th and 27th of February.

These I replied to the 6th of July; a copy of that letter goes with

this; since which, Carleton and Digby have announced the commencement

of negotiations in Europe, and the resolution to acknowledge the

independence of America, without exacting any condition. Leslie has

informed the inhabitants of Charleston, that he means to evacuate it;

measures have been accordingly taken for that purpose. The evacuation

of New York seemed also in some measure determined on. But the arrival

of the packet, announcing the late changes in the Administration, has

revived the spirits of the tories, and they still retain hopes of

maintaining their ground in America. Our armies are now united, and

about moving to their old station at the White Plains. Pigot is at New

York with twentysix sail of the line; and the Marquis de Vaudreuil at

Boston, where he has unfortunately lost the Magnificence, sunk in the

harbor. Congress have endeavored to compensate this loss by presenting

His Most Christian Majesty with the America, built at Portsmouth. She

will, I believe, prove a very fine ship; and with diligence, she may

be fitted in time to be of use this campaign.

We have nothing new among us to inform you of. The armies on both

sides have been inactive, and our attention is turned on what passes

in Europe. Here we are lost in the wide field of expectation and

conjecture without a clue to lead us. I must again press you to think

of appointing some agent here to receive your salary, which will be

paid upon the spot; and may be vested in bills to great advantage.

Two quarters' salary have been transmitted by me, but as I am

unauthorised in this business, I shall inform Mr Morris that he must

devise some other way to make these remittances, which I beg leave to

decline meddling with in future.

I have the honor to be, with great esteem, &c.

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

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TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

St Ildefonso, September 29th, 1782.

Sir,

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