SECTION XVII.

ORDER IN DEBATE.

When the Speaker is seated in his chair, every member is to sit in his

place.--_Scob._ 6; _Grey_, 403.

When any member means to speak, he is to stand up in his place, uncovered,

and to address himself, not to the House, or any particular member, but

to the Speaker, who calls him by his name, that the House may take notice

who it is that speaks.--_Scob._ 6; _D'Ewes_, 487, _col._ 1; 2 _Hats._

77; 4 _Grey_, 66; 8 _Grey_, 108. But members who are indisposed may be

indulged to speak sitting.--3 _Hats._ 75, 77; 1 _Grey_, 195.

$In Senate, every member, when he speaks, shall address the chair,

standing in his place; and when he has finished, shall sit down.--_Rule_

3.$

When a member stands up to speak, no question is to be put; but he is

to be heard, unless the House overrule him.--4 _Grey_, 390; 5 _Grey_,

6, 143.

If two or more rise to speak nearly together, the Speaker determines

who was first up, and calls him by name; whereupon he proceeds, unless

he voluntarily sits down, and gives way to the other. But sometimes the

House does not acquiesce in the Speaker's decision; in which case, the

question is put, "which member was first up?"--2 _Hats._ 76; _Scob._ 7;

_D'Ewes_, 434, _col._ 1, 2.

$In the Senate of the United States, the President's decision is without

appeal. Their rule is in these words:--_When two members rise at the

same time, the President shall name the person to speak; but in all

cases_, the member who shall first rise and address the chair, shall

speak first.--_Rule_ 5.$

No man can speak more than once to the same bill, on the same day; or

even on another day, if the debate be adjourned. But if it be read more

than once, in the same day, he may speak once at every reading.--_Co._

12, 116; _Hakew._ 148; _Scob._ 58; 2 _Hats._ 75. Even a change of opinion

does not give a right to be heard a second time.--_Smyth. Comw. L._

2. _c._ 3; _Arcan. Parl._ 17.

$The corresponding rule of the Senate is in these words:--No member

shall speak more than twice in any one debate on the same day, without

leave of the Senate.--_Rule_ 4.$

But he may be permitted to speak again to clear a matter of fact.--3

_Grey_, 357, 416. Or merely to explain himself, 3 _Hats._ 73, in some

material part of his speech, _ib._ 75; or to the manner or words of

the question, keeping himself to that only, and not travelling into the

merits of it, _Memorials in Hakew._ 29; or to the orders of the House,

if they be transgressed, keeping within that line, and falling into the

matter itself.--_Mem. Hakew._ 30, 31.

But if the Speaker rises to speak, the member standing up ought to sit

down, that he may be first heard. _Town. col._ 205; _Hale. Parl._ 133;

_Mem. in Hakew._ 30, 31. Nevertheless, though the Speaker may of right

speak to matters of order, and be first heard, he is restrained from

speaking on any other subject, except where the House have occasion for

facts within his knowledge: then he may, with their leave, state the

matter of fact.--3 _Grey_, 38.

No one is to speak impertinently or beside the question, superfluously

or tediously.--_Scob._ 31, 33; 2 _Hats._ 166, 168; _Hale, Parl._ 133.

No person is to use indecent language against the proceedings of the

House, no prior determination of which is to be reflected on by any

member unless he means to conclude with a motion to rescind it.--2 _Hats._

169, 170; _Rushw._ p. 3. v. 1. fol. 42. But while a proposition is under

consideration, is still in fieri, though it has even been reported by a

committee, reflections on it are no reflections on the House.--9 _Grey_,

308.

No person in speaking, is to mention a member then present by his

name; but to describe him by his seat in the House, or who spoke last

or on the other side of the question, &c. _Mem. in Hawk._--3 _Smyth's

Comw., L._ 2. _c._ 3; nor to digress from the matter to fall upon the

person.--_Scob._ 31; _Hale, Parl._ 133; 2 _Hats._ 166, by speaking,

reviling, nipping, or unmannerly words against a particular member.

_Smyth's Comw. L._ 2. _c._ 3. The consequence of a measure may be

reprobated in strong terms; but to arraign the motives of those who

propose or advocate it, is a personality, and against order. Qui

digreditur a materia ad personam, Mr. Speaker ought to suppress.--_Ord.

Com._ 1604, Apr. 19.

$When a member shall be called to order he shall sit down, until the

President shall have determined whether he is in order or not.--_Rule_

16.

No member shall speak to another, or otherwise interrupt the business

of the Senate, or read any printed paper while the Journals or public

papers are reading, or when any member is speaking in any debate.--_Rule_

2.

No one is to disturb another in his speech, by hissing, coughing,

spitting,--6 _Grey_, 332; _Scob._ 8; _D'Ewes_, 332, _col._ 1; nor stand

up to interrupt him,--_Town. col._ 205; _Mem. in Hakew._ 31; nor to

pass between the Speaker and the speaking member; nor to go across the

House,--_Scob._ 6; or to walk up and down it; or to take books or papers

from the table, or write there.--2 _Hats._ 171.

Nevertheless, if a member finds it is not the inclination of the House to

hear him, and that, by conversation or any other noise, they endeavor to

drown his voice, it is the most prudent way to submit to the pleasure of

the House, and sit down; for it scarcely ever happens that they are guilty

of this piece of ill manners without sufficient reason, or inattentive

to a member who says any thing worth their hearing.--2 _Hats._ 77, 78.

If repeated calls do not produce order, the Speaker may call by his name

any member obstinately persisting in irregularity; whereupon the House

may require the member to withdraw. He is then to be heard in exculpation

and to withdraw. Then the Speaker states the offence committed, and the

House considers the degree of punishment they will inflict.--2 _Hats._

169, 7, 8, 172.

For instances of assaults and affrays in the House of Commons, and the

proceedings thereon, see 1 _Pet. Misc._ 82; 3 _Grey_, 128; 4 _Grey_, 328;

5 _Grey_, 38; 26 _Grey_, 204; 10 _Grey_, 8. Whenever warm words or an

assault have passed between the members, the House, for the protection of

their members, requires them to declare in their place not to prosecute

any quarrel,--3 _Grey_, 128, 293; 5 _Grey_, 289; or orders them to attend

the Speaker, who is to accommodate their differences, and to report to

the House,--3 _Grey_, 419; and they are put under restraint, if they

refuse, or until they do.--9 _Grey_, 234, 312.

Disorderly words are not to be noticed till the member has finished

his speech.--5 _Grey_, 356; 6 _Grey_, 60. Then the person objecting to

them, and desiring them to be taken down by the clerk at the table, must

repeat them. The Speaker then may direct the clerk to take them down

in his minutes. But if he thinks them not disorderly, he delays the

direction. If the call becomes pretty general, he orders the clerk to

take them down, as stated by the objecting member. They are then part

of his minutes, and when read to the offending member, he may deny they

were his words, and the House must then decide by a question, whether

they are his words or not. Then the member may justify them, or explain

the sense in which he used them, or apologize. If the House is satisfied,

no further proceeding is necessary. But if two members still insist

to take the sense of the House, the member must withdraw before that

question is stated, and then the sense of the House is to be taken.--2

_Hats._ 199; 4 _Grey_, 170; 6 _Grey_, 59. When any member has spoken,

or other business intervened, after offensive words spoken, they cannot

be taken notice of for censure. And this is for the common security of

all, and to prevent mistakes, which must happen, if words are not taken

down immediately. Formerly, they might be taken down at any time the

same day.--2 _Hats._ 196; _Mem. in Hakew._ 71; 3 _Grey_, 48; 9 _Grey_,

514.

Disorderly words spoken in a committee, must be written down as in

the House; but the committee can only report them to the House for

animadversion.--6 _Grey_, 46.

$The rule of the Senate says,--If a member be called to order for words

spoken, the exceptionable words shall be immediately taken down in

writing, that the President may be better enabled to judge.--_Rule_ 17.$

In Parliament, to speak irreverently or seditiously against the King,

is against order.--_Smyth's Comw. L._ 2, _c._ 3; 2 _Hats._ 170.

It is a breach of order in debate to notice what has been said on the

same subject in the other House, or the particular votes or majorities

on it there; because the opinion of each House should be left to its own

independency, not to be influenced by the proceedings of the other; and

the quoting them might beget reflections leading to a misunderstanding

between the two Houses.--8 _Grey_, 22.

Neither House can exercise any authority over a member or officer of

the other, but should complain to the House of which he is, and leave

the punishment to them. Where the complaint is of words disrespectfully

spoken by a member of another House, it is difficult to obtain punishment,

because of the rules supposed necessary to be observed (as to the

immediate noting down of words) for the security of members. Therefore

it is the duty of the House, and more particularly of the Speaker, to

interfere immediately, and not to permit expressions to go unnoticed,

which may give a ground of complaint to the other House, and introduce

proceedings and mutual accusations between the two Houses, which can

hardly be terminated without difficulty and disorder.--3 _Hats._ 51.

No member may be present when a bill, or any business concerning himself,

is debating; nor is any member to speak to the merits of it till he

withdraws.--2 _Hats._ 219. The rule is, that if a charge against a member

arise out of a report of a committee, or examination of witnesses in

the House, as the member knows from that to what points he is to direct

his exculpation, he may be heard to those points before any question

is moved or stated against them. He is then to be heard, and withdraw

before any question is moved. But if the question itself is the charge,

as for breach of order, or matter arising in debate, there the matter

must be stated, that is, the question must be moved, himself heard, and

then to withdraw.--2 _Hats._ 121, 122.

Where the private interests of a member are concerned in a bill or

question, he is to withdraw. And where such an interest has appeared, his

voice has been disallowed, even after a division. In a case so contrary

not only to the laws of decency, but to the fundamental principles of

the social compact, which denies to any man to be a judge in his own

cause, it is for the honor of the House that this rule of immemorial

observance should be strictly adhered to.--2 _Hats._ 119, 121; 6 _Grey_,

368.

No member is to come into the House with his head covered, nor to remove

from one place to the other with his hat on, nor is to put on his hat

in coming in, or removing, until he be sit down in his place.--_Scob._

6.

A question of order may be adjourned to give time to look into

precedents.--2 _Hats._ 118.

$In the Senate of the United States, every question of order is to be

decided by the President, without debate; but if there be a doubt in

his mind, he may call for the sense of the Senate.--_Rule_ 16.$

In Parliament, all decisions of the Speaker may be controlled by the

House.--3 _Grey_, 319.

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