AUTOBULUS, SOCLARUS, OPTATUS, PHAEDIMUS, ARISTOTIMUS, HERACLEO.

1. AUTOBULUS. Leonidas, being asked the question what he thought

of Tyrtaeus, made answer, that he was a good poet to whet minds of

young men; as a person who, by the vigor and spirit of his poetical

raptures, kindled that wrathful indignation and ambition of honor,

which emboldened them in combat to the contempt of death and danger.

Which makes me afraid, my dearest friends, lest the encomium of hunting

yesterday recited may have inflamed our young gentlemen beyond the

bounds of moderation, so as to deem all other things fruitless and of

little worth, while they rendezvous from all parts to this exercise.

So much the rather, because I myself, when I was but very young,

even beyond the strength of my age, seemed to be more than became

me addicted to this sport, and to be over desirous with Phaedra in

Euripides,

With hounds and horn and merry hollow,

The spotted hart and hind to follow

So did that discourse affect me, fortified with many and probable

arguments.

SOCLARUS. You say very truly, Autobulus. For that same poet seems to

me to have awakened the force of rhetoric, for a long time lulled

asleep, to gratify the inclinations of the youthful gentry, and to

make himself their spring companion. But I am most pleased with him

for introducing the example of single combatants, from whence he takes

occasion to praise the sport of hunting, as being that which for the

most part draws to itself whatever is natural in us, or what we have by

use acquired, of that delight which men take in fighting with single

weapons one against another, thus affording an evident prospect of

artifice and daring courage, endued with understanding, encountering

brutish force and strength, and applauding that of Euripides:

Small is the nerveless strength of feeble man,

Yet through the cunning of his reaching brain,

By various slights and sundry stratagems,

Whatever land or th’ Ocean breeds he tames.[77]

2. AUTOBULUS. And hence it was, as they say, my dearest Soclarus, that

men at first became insensible and inhuman, having once tasted of

murder, and being all accustomed, by hunting and following the chase,

not only to behold without remorse the wounds and blood of wild beasts,

but to rejoice at their being killed and slaughtered. Afterwards, as at

Athens, some sycophant was by the Thirty Tyrants set apart for death,

as a proper object of capital punishment, then a second, and a third;

till, proceeding by degrees, they seized upon good men, and at length

spared not the best and most worthy citizens. In like manner the first

that slew a bear or a wolf obtained applause, then the ox and hog were

appointed to be killed, under pretence of having tasted the sacred

things that lay before them. Next to them deer, hares, and goats were

made use of for food, and in some places the flesh of sheep, dogs, and

horses grew familiar to human taste. The tame goose also and pigeon,

man’s familiar domestic, according to Sophocles,—not for nourishment or

to assuage hunger, as cats and weasels do, but to indulge voluptuous

appetites,—they dressed and mangled to pieces. This gave strength and

vigor to whatever was in nature bloodthirsty and savage, and rendering

the disposition of man inflexible to pity, had almost erased out of

his breast whatever was inclinable to humanity and mildness. Whereas,

on the other side, the Pythagoreans, that they might accustom men to

the love of humanity and compassion, still inculcated into their minds

a particular care of being mild and gentle towards beasts. For there

is nothing more powerful than custom to win upon all the affections

of man, and to draw them from moderation to extremity. But I know not

how it comes to pass, that being entered into this discourse, we have

forgot not only the subject we were yesterday upon, but what we had

also this day agreed to make the theme of our colloquy. For yesterday,

as you well know, having thrown out a proposition, that all creatures

were in some manner partakers of understanding and reason, we gave an

occasion to you, young huntsmen, for a fair dispute, which of the two

excelled in craft and cunning, the land animals, or the creatures that

breed in the sea? Which, if you please, we will determine this day, if

Aristotimus and Phaedimus will stand to their agreement; of which two

gentlemen, the one has offered himself to his friends to be the patron

of the land animals, the other reserves the honor of being more crafty

to those of the sea.

SOCLARUS. They will be as good as their words, I assure you, Autobulus,

and will be here presently; for I saw them both early this morning

preparing for the combat. In the mean time, if you please, before they

begin, let us resume something of what was yesterday not so fully

discoursed of for want of time, or not so carefully argued in our

wine, as it ought to have been. For there seemed a dispute to resound

in my ears from the Stoics’ portico, that, as immortal is opposite to

mortal, incorruptible to corruptible, incorporeal to corporeal, in like

manner things void of reason ought to be opposed to those beings that

are endued with reason, lest among so many pairs of contraries this

alone should be found maimed and imperfect.

3. AUTOBULUS. Good now, friend Soclarus, who was he that maintained

that, because there are certain beings endued with reason, therefore

there is nothing void of reason? For we abound with examples in

all things that are destitute of a soul; nor do we want any other

antithesis to irrational, but only to oppose whatever is deprived of

a soul—as being void of reason and understanding—to that which is

endued with reason and understanding together with a soul. But if any

one will assert, that Nature is not defective, and that therefore

animated Nature is partly rational, partly without reason; another

may at the same time allege, that animated Nature is partly endued

with imagination, partly deprived of it; partly sensible, partly

insensible; to the end that Nature may not want these opposite habits

and privations, as it were, equally balanced in the same kind. For, as

it would be absurd to expect to find some living creatures sensible

and others without sense, and equally ridiculous to grant imagination

to some living creatures and not allow it to others,—since there is

no living creature that comes into the world but what is presently

endued with sense and imagination,—thus would he be as much out of the

way, who should require one living creature to be rational and another

void of reason, and that too when he is disputing with men who hold

that nothing whatever can partake of sense which does not also partake

of understanding, and that there is no animal not endued by Nature

with opinion and ratiocination, as well as with sense and instinct.

For Nature, which, as they truly say, made all things for the sake

of something and to some end, did not make a sensible creature to be

merely sensible of barely suffering something; but since there are

many things familiar and agreeable, and other things as baneful and

pernicious, no one of them could survive for a moment, did they not

learn to avoid some things and covet the use and benefit of others.

Sense it is, therefore, that affords to every creature the knowledge

both of useful and hurtful; but the discretion which accompanies the

said sense, choosing and seizing upon things profitable, and discerning

and avoiding things pernicious or troublesome, can never be thought to

reside in any creature not capable to reason, to judge, remember, and

consider. Therefore, if you will deprive the creatures of expectation,

memory, design, preparation, hope, fear, desire, and grief, you must at

the same time deny them the use either of eyes or ears, and indeed of

all sense and imagination; which it is better for them to be without,

since they cannot make use of them, than to labor under grief and pain,

with no means present of averting them.

There is an oration of Strato the philosopher, demonstrating that

without sense there can be no understanding. For many times letters

cursorily glanced upon by the eye, and speeches little regarded by the

ear, escape our knowledge, our minds being intent on other matters.

Afterwards by recollection the same things return into our mind, for us

to run through and pursue them in our thoughts as we please. Whence we

say proverbially, “The mind sees, the mind hears; all other things are

deaf and blind,” in regard there can be no sense in the eyes and ears,

if understanding be wanting. Therefore King Cleomenes, after great

commendations given to a copy of verses recited at a banquet where he

was present, being asked whether it were not an admirable piece, bid

them that heard it give their judgment, for that his mind was in the

Peloponnesus. Therefore of necessity, whatever creatures are capable of

sense must also be capable of understanding, if we can no otherwise be

sensible than by the force of understanding.

But suppose we should grant that sense has no need of the understanding

for the performance of the duty incumbent upon it; nevertheless, when

that same sense which has shown an animal the difference between what

is grateful and what is averse to Nature has departed, where is that

faculty which retains this difference in the memory,—dreading things

that are abominable, and longing after things that are useful, and if

they are wanting, seeking means to compass them,—which provides animals

receptacles and places of refuge, that they may look out after their

prey, and avoid the snares and gins of the hunters? And yet those very

authors inculcate these things in their introductions, even to the

teasing our ears: defining purpose to be an indication that something

is to be brought to completion; design to be an impulse before an

impulse; preparation to be an action before an action; memory to be

the comprehension of some certain past impression, which at first was

apprehended by sense. In all which things there is nothing which may

not rightly be said to partake of reason, and yet all these things

are common to all creatures; as indeed are certainly all cogitations;

which, while they lie concealed in the brain, we call thoughts, but

when they come to be in motion, we name conceptions. In the mean time

they acknowledge all passions and perturbations of the mind to be

false judgments and erroneous opinions; so that it is a wonder to me,

that the same men should oversee so many operations and motions, some

of desire, others of fear, nay, by Jupiter, many times of envy and

emulation itself. And many times they themselves punish their dogs

and horses when they commit a fault, and this not to no purpose, but

to chastise them by causing in them through pain that trouble of mind

which we call repentance. Now the tickling the ear by pleasing sounds

is called enchantment, but the bewitching the eye is called bewitching;

both which we make use of in the domesticating of wild beasts. Harts

and horses are allured by the sounds of pipes and flutes. And there

are a sort of crabs which are charmed out of their holes by fifes; and

it is reported that the shadfish are drawn to show themselves above

water by singing and clapping of hands. The otus also, which is a bird

not much unlike a night-raven, is taken by allurement of the sight;

for that while he stands staring upon the fowlers dancing before him

in measure and figure, and out of affection will be striving to act

his part by aping their motions with his wings and shoulders, he is

frequently surprised and taken.

But as for those that more foolishly affirm that beasts are not

affected with joy or anger or fear, that the swallow does not build,

that the bee does not remember, that the lion is not angry, that the

hart is not timorous, but that they do all these things only as it were

and apparently; I would fain know what answer they will make to those

who say, that beasts neither see nor hear, but as it were see and as it

were hear; that they neither neigh nor bleat, but as it were send forth

a certain sound; lastly, that they do not absolutely live, but live

as it were? For, in my opinion, to aver this is as contrary to plain

demonstration as the rest.

4. SOCLARUS. Well then, Autobulus, suppose me to be one of those that

affirm these things. For it is great folly for men to compare the

actions of beasts with the customs, actions, and manner of living men,

and above all, to deny that beasts have the least inclination or aim at

any progress towards virtue, to which we bent our discourse. Indeed, I

doubt whether Nature gave them a beginning or no, since they are so

incapable to attain the end.

AUTOBULUS. Why truly, Soclarus, this is not a thing that seems so

absurd to those men. For that while they assert the extreme love of

parents towards their children to be the principle of society and

justice, and find at the same time this virtue apparent and surpassing

in brute animals, yet they will not allow them in the least to partake

of justice; like mules, which, though they are furnished with genital

parts, as wanting neither privities nor wombs, and mixing with delight

and pleasure, yet cannot attain the end of generation. But then again

I would have you consider, whether they be not ridiculous, that affirm

Socrates or Plato to be no less vicious than the meanest of slaves,—nay

more, that they were fools, intemperate, and unjust,—and then find

fault with the nature of beasts, as being impure and no way accurately

framed for the reception of virtue; as if this were proof of utter

want of reason, and not of depravedness and imbecility of reason.

And all the while, they acknowledge that there are vices of reason,

of which all brute beasts are guilty; many of which we plainly find

to be intemperate, fearful, malicious, and unjust. Therefore he that

denies that reason exists by Nature in a creature, because it is not

framed by Nature to attain to the perfection of reason, little differs

from one that should deny a monkey to partake of deformity by Nature,

or a tortoise of slowness, as being neither susceptible of beauty or

swiftness. Nor do they observe the distinction that lies before their

eyes. For reason is in the creature by Nature, but right and perfect

reason is attained by industry and education; so that naturally all

creatures may be said to be rational. But if they look for perfection

of reason and true wisdom, they will hardly find those perfections

in any man whatever. For as there is a difference between sight and

sight, and between flight and flight,—for hawks and grasshoppers

do not see alike, neither do eagles and partridges fly with equal

swiftness,—so neither in all rational creatures is there to be found

the same perfection of cunning and acuteness. For as there are many

examples to be produced of several brute creatures, excelling in the

observance of society, fortitude, and foresight as to their particular

economy and making provision for themselves; so on the other side,

there may be found among them as many of injustice, cowardice, and

folly. Which is evident from the present contest wherein these young

gentlemen have engaged themselves, while the one has undertaken to

maintain that land-animals, the other that creatures bred in the

sea, are most inclined to virtue. Which is plainly demonstrated by

comparing river-horses with storks. For the one support and cherish

their fathers, the others kill them that they may enjoy their dams. So

likewise, if you compare doves with partridges. For the cock partridge

will not suffer the hen to sit, but breaks her eggs and throws them

out of the nest if she refuses to be trod. But the cock pigeon takes

upon him part of the female’s duty, in brooding over the eggs and

feeding the young ones; and if the hen happens to be too long absent,

he corrects her with his bill, till he forces her to return to her

nest. So that, while Antipater found fault with sheep and asses for

their nastiness, I wonder how he came to pass by lynxes and swallows,

of which the one are so cleanly that they always remove and hide their

excrements, the others teach their young ones to turn their tails out

of their nest, before they let fall their defilement. And indeed, why

may we not say that one tree is more docible than another, as dogs are

more docible than sheep; or one pot-herb more timorous than another,

as harts are more fearful than lions? Or otherwise, as among things

immovable, there is not one thing slower in motion than another; nor

among things that are mute, one thing more vocal than another; so

neither, among things to which Nature has not afforded a faculty of

understanding, is there one thing more timorous, more slothful, or more

intemperate than another. But as to those creatures where that faculty

is present, the difference is manifest in the degrees of more or less.

5. SOCLARUS. However, it is a wonderful thing to observe, how much man

differs from all other creatures in probity of manners, in industry,

and in all those things that relate to justice and common society.

AUTOBULUS. Nevertheless, my dear friend, this cannot be denied,

that there are many brute beasts that surpass men both in bulk and

swiftness, others that far surpass him in strength of sight and

exactness of hearing; and yet for all this we are not to say that man

is blind, without strength, or wants ears. For Nature has not deprived

us either of hands or eyes or strength or bulk, though we must not

compare with camels or elephants. In like manner we must not say that

brute beasts are altogether deprived of reason and understanding,

because they are more dull of understanding, and not so quick at

ratiocination as we are, as only enjoying a weak and muddy sort of

reason, like a dim and clouded eye. And did I not presently expect

these young gentlemen, being persons both studious and learned, to

bring together an infinite number of examples in reference to both land

and sea-animals, I could produce a thousand examples of docility and a

thousand more of good nature in beasts, which the famous city of Rome

has given us an opportunity to fetch from her imperial theatres; but we

will leave these things fresh and untouched, for them to embellish with

their eloquent discourse.

In the mean time I have something to offer by the by, which is this,

that I am of opinion that there is a mutilation, disease, and defect

peculiar to every part and faculty,—as blindness of the eye, lameness

of the leg, and stuttering of the tongue,—which defects cannot be

appropriated to any other members. For that blindness can never be

attributed to that which was never created to see, nor lameness to that

which never could go, nor can any thing be said to stammer that wants

a tongue, or to lisp or stutter that has not a vocal utterance. And

nothing can be said to be a changeling or beside his wits or mad, to

which Nature never gave the use of thought, reason, and understanding;

for it is impossible to be so without some faculty that can suffer

either privation or mutilation or some other defect. But you have seen

dogs that were mad, and I have seen horses under the same predicament;

and some there are who say that bulls and foxes will be mad. But the

example of dogs is sufficient, which is unquestionable. This makes it

evident, that those creatures have a sort of reason and understanding

not to be despised, which being once confused and troubled, the

affection arises which is called madness. For we do not find either

their sight or their hearing diminished. Now, as when a man is affected

with hypochondriac melancholy, or in a delirium, it would be absurd

to say that he was not beside himself, or that his sense, reason, and

memory were not disturbed,—for custom tells that they who are in a

raving condition are not in their right senses, but are fallen from

their reason,—so whoever believes that there is any other cause why

dogs run mad, but only that their natural senses, reason, and memories

are disturbed, while they cease to know faces the most familiar to them

before, and abandon their most usual food, and overlook what is just

before their eyes, such a man, I say, seems to me either to overlook

what is just before his eyes, or else, seeing the conclusions that

follow, to fight against the truth itself.

6. SOCLARUS. You seem to me to be very much in the right, for the

Stoics and Peripatetics are led to affirm the contrary upon this

supposition, that justice could have no certain original, but would

be altogether incomprehensible and inexistent if all brute creatures

should partake of reason. For either of necessity we must do a very

great piece of injustice when we devour and feed upon them; or if we

forbear the use of them, it will be impossible for us to live, or

rather we shall in some measure live the lives of beasts, rejecting the

use of brute creatures. I pass by those innumerable myriads of nomades

and Troglodytes that know no other food but flesh. But as for us that

seem to live lovingly and in friendship together, what necessity would

there be of laboring on the earth, toiling upon the sea, or mining in

the mountains, what ornament would there be in our life, if it were so

that we must be bound to live, as it would then become us, not only

without injury but rather with all civility and humanity toward all

the sorts of beasts, as being our fellow rational creatures? We have

no cure, no remedy for an unquestionable necessity that deprives us

either of life or justice, unless we observe that ancient bound and

dispensation which, according to Hesiod, distinguishing natures and

separating every kind by themselves, commands

The fish, wild beasts, and all the winged fowl,

To prey upon their kinds without control,

For among them no law nor justice reigns;

Only by justice man from man abstains.[78]

And therefore, as brutes can extend no act of justice to us, so neither

can we commit any act of injustice against them. Which argument they

who reject have left us no benefit of life, nor any the smallest

entrance for justice into the world.

7. AUTOBULUS. These things, dear friend, you utter as the opinion

of those people. But we are not to allow philosophers a remedy to

procure easy delivery, as they do to women that are subject to hard

labors, merely that they may bring us forth justice without any pain

or trouble. For the same persons, even in the greatest matters, will

not allow to Epicurus so small and pitiful a thing as the slightest

inclination of one only atom, for to make way for the stars and

living creatures and Fortune to come into the world, and that thereby

our free will might be saved. For we ought either to prove what is

doubtful or to assume what of itself is manifest; so we ought not to

take for granted this doctrine touching beasts as regards justice,

unless it is either confessed or otherwise proved by demonstration. For

justice has another way to establish itself, neither so steep nor so

slippery, nor leading to the subversion of evident truths; but which,

according to Plato’s instruction, my son and thy friend, Soclarus,

has showed to such as are not captiously contentious but willing to

learn. For certain it is, that both Empedocles and Heraclitus held it

for a truth, that man could not be altogether cleared from injustice

in dealing with beasts as he now does; often bewailing and exclaiming

against Nature, as if she were nothing else but necessity and war,

having neither any thing unmixed nor any thing truly pure, but still

arriving at her end by many, and those unjust and unlawful passions.

Whence they affirm that generation itself originally proceeded from

injustice by the conjunction of immortal with mortal, and that the

thing engendered is still contrary to Nature delighted with the parts

of that which engenders, dismembered from the whole. But this seems to

be too luxuriant and severe an accusation of Nature. For there is yet a

more moderate excuse, which does not altogether deprive the beasts of

reason, yet justifies the necessary and convenient use of them; which

when the ancients introduced, they detested and utterly discountenanced

voracious and voluptuous gluttony. Pythagoras also resumed the

argument, teaching how we might reap the benefit of the creatures

without doing injustice. For they do no injustice, that chastise and

kill such savage beasts that are both hurtful to man and never will be

tame. But taming such as are gentle and loving to men, they thereby

make them assistant in the several uses to which they were ordained,—

The horse and ass, that backs to load resign,

And race of bulls,

which, as Prometheus in Aeschylus[79] observes,

Kind Heaven vouchsafed to men by toil distrest,

With servile limbs his labors to assist.

Thus we make use of dogs to guard our goats and sheep, while they are

milked and shorn. For life does not presently forsake a man unless

he have his platters of fish or livers of geese, or unless he may

kill whole oxen or kids to supply his banquets, or unless—that he may

disport himself in the theatre or take his pleasure in hunting—he may

compel some beasts to be daring and to fight against their wills, and

kill others whom Nature has not armed to defend themselves. For, in my

opinion, he that is for sport and pastime ought to seek out for such

as will sport and be merry with him. And as it was the saying of Bion,

that, though boys throw stones at frogs in sport, yet the frogs do not

die in sport but in earnest; so in hunting and fishing, the fault is

in the men delighting in the torments and cruel deaths of beasts, and

tearing them without compassion from their whelps and their young ones.

For it is not in the making use of beasts that men do them wrong, but

in the wastefully and cruelly destroying them.

8. SOCLARUS. Contain yourself, my dearest Autobulus, and forbear these

accusations; for here are several gentlemen coming, all great huntsmen,

whom it will be very difficult to bring over to your opinion; neither

is it convenient to offend them.

AUTOBULUS. You give me good advice. However, I know Eubiotus very

well, and my kinsman Ariston; nor am I less acquainted with Aeacides

and Aristotimus, the sons of Dionysius the Delphian, as also with

Nicander the son of Euthydamus, all expert in the chase by land, as

Homer expresses it; and therefore likely to take part with Aristotimus.

On the other side, yonder comes Phaedimus too, bringing along with

him the islanders and neighbors to the sea, Heracleon of Megara, and

Philostratus of Euboea,

Whose whole delight is all the day

The toilsome pastime of the sea.[80]

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