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A dialoge

or communication of

two persons, deuysyd

and set forthe in the la-

tê tonge, by the noble

and famose clarke.

_Desiderius Erasmus_

intituled ye pyl-

gremage of

pure de-

uoty-

on.

Newly trãslatyd into

Englishe.

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|| [+] ij.||

To the reder.

Amongest the writinges of all men, dearly belouyd

reder, not onely of the diuersyte of tongues, but also

the noble drawghts of so artificyall paynted figures,

whiche haue so lyuely expressed to ye quycke ymage, the

nature, ordre, & proporcyon of all states, as

concernynge the gouernaunce of a Christen comêwealthe,

that ther is (as I suppose) no parte of the scripture,

which is not so enpowndyde, furnysshed, and set forthe,

but that euery Christen man, therby may lerne his dewty

to god, hys prynce, and hys nebure, and so consequently

passe thourough the strayte pathe of the whiche

scripture doth testyfye vpõ, very fewe can fynde ye

entrye, wherby thorough faythe in the redêptyon of the

worlde thorowe ye bloode of Christe the sone of god, to

rayne || with the father and the holy goste eternally,

accordynge to the promyse of Christe, sayinge. In my

fathers hawse ther be many placys to dwell in, we wyll

come to hym and make a mansyon place with hym and I

haue and shall open thy name vnto them, that the same

loue with the whiche thou louydest me, may be in theym,

and I in thê, and thys is the kyngdome of god so often

mouyd to vs in holy scripture, whiche all faythfull

shall possesse and inheret for euermore: where as ye

vnfaythfull, vnryghtswye, and synner shall not entre in

to the kyngdome of god, bycause, of chaûgynge the glory

of gode immortall in to the ymage of a corruptyble man,

and therfore to incentiously he hathe suffrede them to

wandre in theyr clowdes of ygnoraunce, preferrynge the

lyes and corrupte || [+] iij.|| iudgmentes of man the

veryte and the truthe of god, rather seruynge the

creature then the creator, amongest all the parties of

the whiche (as was spoken at the begynnyng) thys alwaye

not alonely in the newe law, but also in the olde

Testament was as a thynge moost abhomynable and

displesant in the sight of gode prohybyte and forbyden:

but our nature whiche hath in hym, the dampnable

repugnaûce of synne agaynst the omnypotêt power of

gode, lest euyn frome owre fyrst father Adam, is so

enclyned to vyces, amongest the whiche it hath not

gyuen the least parte to thys desperate synne of

ydolatrye, agaynst the immaculate, and fearefull

commandement of god. Thou shalt haue no straunge Gods

in my syght, that it is sore to be dreadde the same

iudgement to be gyuyn || vpon vs that was gyuen vpon

the cytye of Ninyue to be absorped of the yerthe in to

the yre and vengeannce of gode, whiche hathe ben the

cause that so many wryters bothe of late dayes, and

many yeres passede, haue euyn to deathe, resisted thes

dampnable bolsterers of ydolatrye, gyuen theyr selues

to the crosse in example of reformacyon to theyr

bretherne, bothe in wrytinge and cownsell, exhortynge

the flocke of Christe frome soche prophane doctryne,

amongest whome the noble and famouse clerke _Desiderius

Erasmus_ hath setforthe to the quycke ymage, before

mennys eyes, the supersticyouse worshype and false

honor gyuyn to bones, heddes, iawes, armes, stockes,

stones, shyrtes, smokes, cotes, cappes, hattes, shoes,

mytres, slyppers, sadles, rynges, bedes, gyrdles,

bolles, || [+] iiij.|| belles, bokes, gloues, ropes,

taperes, candelles, bootes, sporres, (my breath was

almost past me) with many other soche dampnable

allusyones of the deuylle to use theme as goddes

contrary to the immaculate scripture of gode, morouer

he notethe as it were of arrogancye the pryuate

iudgment of certayne that of theyr owne brayne wolde

cast out ymages of the temple, with out a comen consent

and authoryte, some there be that alway seke halowes,

and go vpon pylgramages vnder a pretense of holynes,

whervpon thes brotherhoddes and systerhoodes be now

inuented, morouer they that haue ben at Hierusalem be

called knightes of the sepulcre, and call one an other

bretherne, and vpon palme-sondaye they play the foles

sadely, drawynge after them an asse in a || rope, when

they be not moche distante frome the woden asse that

they drawe. The same do they conterfayte that haue ben

at saynt Iames in Compostella. But they be more

pernycyouse, that set forthe vncertayn relyques, for

certayne, and attrybute more to them than they oughte

to haue, and prostytute or sett theym forthe for

fylthye lukre. But now whan they perceyue, that this

theyr dãpnable *Corbane [*A tresure boxe of ye Iewes.]

dothe decay, and that theyr most to be lamented blyndnes

and longe accustomed errours shuld be redressed, they, all

fayre bothe of god and man set asyde, rebelle and

make insurrectyones contrary to the ordynaunce of gode,

agaynst theyr kynge and liege lorde, prouokynge and

allurynge the symple comynaitye to theyre dampnable

ypocrysye and conspyracy, myndyng || [+] v.|| and goynge

about to preuente our most soueraigne lordes iudgment,

not yet gyuê vpon theyr Sodomiticall actes, and most

horryble ypocrysy. But the worde of the lorde whiche

they so tyrannously go aboute to suppresse with all the

fauerours therof shall ouercome & destroy all soch most

to be abhorred & deceyuable inuegelers & dysturbers of

ye symple people to soch detestable treason. And that

it may so do to the terryble example of thes and a11

other rebelles and most dysloyal subiectes, and to ye

greate comforthe & cõsolacyõ of his gracys faythfull

and true comens. I requyre him which brethethe where he

willithe and raygnethe eternall gode to graût vnto our

seyde most dradde soueraygne lorde whose maiesty as it

euydently appereth onely applieth his diligence to the

aduaunsynge || & lettynge forthe of the most holsome

documenth and teachyng of almyghty god, to the redres

of long accustome euylls and damnable sectes, to the

supportacion and mayntenaunce of godly and alowable

ceremonyes, to the suppressynge and most to be desired

abolishyng of the deuelishe and detestable vsurped

aucthoryties, dampnable errours and prophane abuses

brought in by that myghty Golyas, that obdurated

Phareo, that proude Nembroth (whome god amêde) the

byshope of Rome, to graunte (I say) vnto hys hyghnes,

suche hys godly ayde and assistence, that hys grace

with hys moost honorable counsell (agaynst whome this

arrogant conspyracy is nowe moued and begonne) may

ouercome and debelle the stud traytres as in tymes

paste hys maiestye hath prudently || do other, that haue

hertofore attempted to perpetrate and brynge to passe

like sedicyous mishief, and so to establishe the hartes

of hys gracys true subiectes that they may wyllyngly

and according to theyr dueties, obey and fulfyll hys

most lawfull and godly ordened lawes and commaundements

wherby they shall not onely do the thyng agreable to

goddes wylle and teachynges, in that he willeth euery

soule to be subiected to the hygher power and obedyent

to theyr prynce, but also (to theyr greate laude and

prayse) shall shewe them selfe to be redy and

confirmable to do theyr dueties in aydyng hys excellent

hyghnes to the reformacyon of all pernicious abuses &

chiefly of detestable ydolatrye, whiche is so muche

prohibited in holy scripture and most displeasant to

god, || for whiche intent and purpose the sayd most

noble and famous clarke _Desiderius Erasmus_, compiled &

made this dialoge in Laten, as it foloweth herafter

nowe lately translated into our mother the Englishhe

tonge. Auoyd therfore, most deare readere, all abuses

whereby any inconuenyence may growe, other to the

hynderaunce of godes worde, to the displeasure of thy

prynce, (whome thou arte so straytly commaunded to

obaye, or to the domage of a publike weale, whiche

aboue all vices is noted most to be abhorred, not

alonely of the most holy wryteres and expownderes of

scripture, but also of prophane gentylles, whiche neuer

perceyuyd other thinge than nature enclyned theyr

hartes vnto, and so consequently to obtayne the

fruytion of the godhode thorowe the faythe that was

|| spoken of at the begynnynge to the

whiche the lorde Iesus Chri-

ste brynge vs all with a

perfaycte quyetnes,

So be it.

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|| A.||

A pylgremage, for pure deuocyõ.

_Menedemus._ [*Signifieth to forsake.] What new thynge

ys it, that I se? doo I nat see _Ogygyus_ my neybur,

whom no mã could espie of all thes sex monthes before?

yt was a sayng that he was deed, It is euen he, except

that I be ferre deceyuyd. I wyll go to hym, & byd hym

good morow. Good morow Ogygyus.[*was faynyd of an old

kynge of Thebanes.] Good morow to you Menedemus.

_Mene._ I pray you frome what contray do you come to vs

ayen so saffe. For here was a great comunicacyõ that

you dyd sayle streght to hell. _Ogy._ No, thankyd be

god, I haue faryd as well syns I went hens, as euer I

dyd in all my lyffe. _Me._ Well, a man may well

perceyue that all soche rumours be but vanytye. But I

pray you what araye is this that you be in, me thynke

that you be clothyd with cokle schelles, and be || ladê

on euery syde with bruches of lead and tynne. And you

be pretely garnyshyd with wrethes of strawe & your arme

is full of *snakes egges.[*Signifyeth bedes. Malsyngam

ys callyd parathalassia by cause it is ny to ye see.]

_Ogy._ I haue bene on pylgremage at saynt Iames in

Compostella, & at my retourne I dyd more relygyously

vysyte our lady of Walsyngã in England, a very holy

pylgremage, but I dyd rather vysyte her. For I was ther

before within this thre yere. _Me._ I trowe, it was but

for your pleasure. _Ogy._ Nay, it was for pure

deuocyon. _Me._ I suppose you learnyd that relygyõ of

the Grecyanes. _Ogy._ My mother in law dyd make a vowe

that if her dougther shuld be delyueryd of a man chyld

alyue, than that I shuld go to saynt Iames on

pylgremage, and ther to salute and thãke hym. _Me._ Dyd

you salute saynt Iames alonly in your name, and your

mothers. _Ogy._ No, in the name of all owre house.

_Me._ || A ij.|| Verely I thynke that your howshold as

well shold haue prosperd, in case you had not salutyd

hym at all. But I pray you what answer dyd he make to

your salutacyon. _Ogy._ Nothynge at all. But whã I dyd

offre, me tought he dyd lawghe vpon me, and becke at me

with hedde, & dyd reche to me this cokleshell. _Me._

Wherfore dothe he gyue rather suche schelles, than

other thynges. _Ogygy._ For the see, whiche is nye vnto

hym dothe mynystre plenty of suche. _Me._ O holy saynt

Iames, that bothe is a mydwyffe to women with chyld,

and also dothe helpe his pylgrymes. But I pray you what

new kynd of makyng vowes is that that whan a mã is ydle

he shall put the burden apon an other mannes bakke? In

case that you doo bynd youre selffe with a vowe, that

yf ye matter chaunche happyly whiche you haue in hande,

that I for you || shall fast twyse in on weke, do you

beleue that I can fulfyl youre vow? _Ogy._ No, I doo

not beleue it if that you dyd vowe it in youre awne

name. It is but a sport with yow to mokke sayntes. But

this was my mother in law, I must nedys obey her, you

know womenes affectyones, & I must obaye heres. _Me._

If that you had not perfourmyd your vowe, what iopertye

had you be in? _Ogy._ I graunt, he could not haue had

an accyon ayenst me in ye law, but he myght from

hensforthe be deafe to my vowes, orels pryuyly send

some calamytye or wretchednes amongste my housholde,

yow know well enuffe the maneres of great men. _Me._

Tell me now what that same honest mã saynt Iames dothe,

and howe he farythe. _Ogy._ Moche colder thã he was

wontyd to do. _Me._ What is the cause of it? His age?

_Ogy._ Oh you scoffer, yow || A iij.|| know wel enoghe

that sayntes wax nat olde. But this new learnynge,

whiche runnythe all the world ouer now a dayes, dothe

cause hym to be vysytyd moche lesse than he was wontyd

to be, for if any doo come thay salute him alonly, but

they offre lytle or nothinge, and say that theyr monaye

may bettre be disposyd amongste pore people. _Me._ O a

wykyd comunicacyon. _Ogy._ Ye & so great an Apostle

whiche was wõtyd to stand all in precyous stones &

gold, now stãdythe all of wodde hauynge before hym

skaresly a wax candle. _Me._ If it be trew that I here,

it is great ioperdy lest that same chance to all the

rest of the sayntes. _Ogy._ I thynk it wel, for ther is

an epistle abrode whiche our lady dyd wryte apon the

same matter. _Me._ What lady? _Ogy._ *She that hathe

her name of a stone.[*Our ladi of stone in Raurachia

whiche is a certayne cuntre.] _Me._ I trawe it is in

Raurachia. _Ogy._ That same || is it. _Me._ yow tell me

of a stony lady, But to whome dyd she wryte? _Ogy._ The

epistle dothe playnely shew his name. _Me._ By whome

was it sent? _Ogy._ No dowbt but by an angell, whiche

dyd lay the wrytynges apõ the aultre, wherof he

prechythe to whome it was sent. And lest there shuld be

any suspectyõ of crafty cõuayance in you, you shall se

the epistle wryten with his owne hande. _Me._ Do you

know so well the hand of thangell whiche is secretary

to our lady? _Ogy._ Yee why nat? _Me._ By what argumêt?

_Ogy._ I haue redde that *Epithaphe [*Is a scripture

wryten on a graue.] of Bede which was grauyd of the

angell: and the letteres agre in all thynges. I haue

redde also ye obligacyõ whiche was sent to saynt Gyles

as dothe aper. Dothe not thes argumentes proue that

mater to be good enoghe. _Me._ May a man loke apon

them? _Ogy._ ye and if you wyll swere to kepe it ||

A iiij.|| preuy. _Me._ Oh you shall speake to a stone.

_Ogy._ Ther be stones now a dayes of that name very

slawnderous, that wyll hyde nothynge. _Me._ you shall

speake to a domme man, & yow trust nat a stone. _Ogy._

Apon ye condycyon I wyll tell it, loke that you here

with bothe youre eyares. _Me._ So I doo.

[The epistle of our Lady.]

_Ogy._ Mary the mother of Iesu to *Glaucoplutus

[*Glaucoplutus desirus of ryches.] sêdythe gretynge.

Insomoche as you folowe Luther, you nobly perswade,

that it is but in vayne to call apõ sayntes, do ye well

know for that to be grettly in my fauore. For vntyll

thys day I haue almost be slayne with the importunate

prayers of men. Of me alone they askyd althynges, as

who shuld say my sone were alway a babe, because he is

so faynyd and payntyd apõ my breste, that yet he wold

be at my commaundemêt and durst nat denye my petycyon,

dredynge that if he denye my petycyon, || that I shuld

denye hym my teate whan he is a thurst: and very oft

thay requyre that of me, whiche a shamfast yongman dare

scantly aske of a Bawde, yee they be suche thynges as I

am ashamyd to put in wrytynge. Now comythe ye

marchauntman and he redy to sayle into Spayne for a

vantage, dothe cõmytte hys wyues honesty to me. Than

commythe thet lytle preaty Nunne and she castythe away

her vayle redy to runne away, she leuythe with me the

good name of her vyrgynytye, whiche shortly she

entendythe to take monay for. Than cryeth the wykyd

soudyer purposyd to robbe & saythe, blessyd lady send

me a good praye. Now cõmythe the vnthryfty dyasser and

cryethe, send me good chance Lady & thow shalt haue

parte of my wynnynges: and if the dyasse runne ayenst

hym, he blasphemes, and cursythe me, bycause || I wyll

nat fauor his noghtynes. Now cryeth she that sellythe

her selffe for fylthye lukre & saythe, swete lady send

me some costomers, & if I denye it, they exclame ayenst

me & say, thou arte not the mother of marcy. Moreouer

the vowes of some women be no lesse wykyd thã folishe.

The mayd cryeth & saythe, O swet Mary send me a fayre

and riche husbond. The maryed womã saythe send me

goodly chylderen. Now laborythe the woman with chyld,

and cryeth dere lady dylyuer me of my bondes. Than

cõmythe ye olde wyffe, and saythe flowre of all women

send me to lyue longe withowt coghe and drynes. Now

crepythe the the dotynge old man & saythe, lady send me

for to wax yonge ayê. Thã cõmythe forth the phylosopher

and cryethe send me some argumêtis that be îsoluble.

The great prest cryeth send me a fat benefyce. Thã ||

saythe the bysshope kepe well my churche. Thã cryethe

ye hye Iustyce shew me thy sone or I passe out of this

worlde. Thã saythe ye Cowrtyer send me trwe confession

at the howre of my deathe. The husbondman saythe send

vs temperate wether. The mylke wyffe cryethe owt

blessyd lady saue our catell. Now if I denye anythynge

by & by I am crwell. If I cõmytte it to my sone, I here

them say, he wyll what so euer you wyll. Shall I than

alone bothe a woman and a mayd helpe maryneres,

sawdyeres, marchantmen, dyasseres, maryed mê, women

with chyld, iudges, kynges, and husbondmen? ye and this

that I haue sayd is the least parte of my payne. But I

am nat now so moche trobled with soche busynes, for

that I wold hartely thanke you, but that this

commodytye dothe brynge a greater discõmodytye with

hym. I || haue now more ease, but lesse honor &

profett. Before this tyme I was callyd quene of heuen,

lady of the world, but now any man wyll skarsly say aue

Maria or hayle Mary. Before I was clothyd with precyous

stones and gold, and had my chaunges, and dayly ther

was offeryd gold and precyous stones, now I am skarsly

coueryd with halffe a gowne and that is all beeyten

with mysse. My yerly rentes be now so smalle that I am

skarsly able to fynde my pore quere kepar to light a

wax cãdle before me. Yet all this myght be sufferyd,

but you be abowt to pluke away greater thynges, you be

abowt (as they say) that what so euer any saynte hathe

in any place, to take hyt frome the churches, but take

hede what you doo. For ther is no saynte without a way

to reuêge his wronge. If you cast saynt Petre forthe of

the churche, he may serue || you of the same sauce, and

shite vp heuyngates ayenst you. ye saynt Paule hathe

his sworde. Barthylmew is nat withowt his great knyffe.

Saynt Wyllyam is harnysyd vnder his monkes cloke, nat

withowt a greate speare. What canst thou doo ayenst

saynt George whiche is bothe a knyght & all armyd with

hys longe spere and his fearfull sword? Nor saynt

Antony is nat withowt hys weapenes for he hathe holy

fyre with hym. Ye the rest of the sayntes haue theyr

weapones or myschefues, whiche they send apon whome

they liste. But as for me thou canst not cast owt,

except thou cast owt my sone, whiche I hold in myne

armes. I wyll nat be seperat frome hym, other thou

shalt cast hym owt with me or els thou shalt let vs

bothe be, except that you wold haue a temple withowt a

Christe. These be the thynges that I wold || yow shall

know ymagyne you therfore what shal be your answer. For

this thinge pleasythe me very well. Frome oure stony

churche the calendes of Auguste, the yere frome my

sonnes passyon a M. CCCCC. xiiij. I stony lady

subscrybyd thys with myne owne hande. _Me._ Trewly that

was a soro and fearfull epistle, I suppose that

Glaucoplutus wyll beware frõ hêsforthe. _Ogy._ Ye & if

he be wyse. _Me._ Wherfore dyd nat that good saynt

Iames wryte to that man of the same mater. _Ogy._ I can

nat tell, except it be bycause he is so ferre of, and

now a dayes men be moche searchyd for suche maters, &

in theyr iornaye theyr lettres takê frome them. _Me._

I pray you, what god dyd send you into Englõd? _Ogy._

I saw the wynd maruelouse prosperouse thyderward, and

I had almoste promysyd this to that blessyd lady of

Walsyngã that I wold seke || her within .ij. yere,

_Me._ What wold you axe of her. _Ogy._ No new thyngs at

all, but suche as be comen, as to kepe saffe and sownd

my housholde, to encreasse my goodes, and in thys world

to haue a lõge and mery liffe, and whã I dye

euerlastynge lyffe in another worlde. _Me._ May nat owr

lady grante the same at home with vs? She hathe at

Antwarpe a moche more lordly temple thã at Walsyngame.

_Ogy._ I denye nat but it may be so, but in dyuers

places she grantes dyuers thynges, wether it be her

pleasur so to do, or bycause she is so gentle, that as

cõcernynge this purpose, she wyll gyue her selfe to our

affectyões. _Me._ I haue harde oft of saynt Iames, but

I pray you describe to me the kyngdome of Walsyngam.

_Ogy._ Verely I shall tell you as shortly as I canne.

Yt is the most holy name in all England, and you may

fynde some in || that yle, that suppose thayr substãce

shal nat prospayre except they vysyte her with thayr

offerynge euery yere ones as thay be able to gyue.

_Me._ Wher dothe she dwell? _Ogy._ At the vttermost

parte of all England betwyxt the Northe and the Weste,

nat vary ferre from the see, skarsly iii myles, the

towne is almost susteynyd by the resort of pylgrymes.

The college is of Canões, but thay be suche as hathe

thayr name of the Laten tonge and be called Seculares,

a kynd betwyxte monkes & Chanones. _Me._ What you tell

me of *Amphybyanes, [*Amphybyanes be thynges doutfull.]

suche as ye mõstre *Fyber is.[*Fyber is a beste of ye

see & ye land.] _Ogy._ No thay be rather suche as the

*Cocatrice. [*A Cocatrice wil kyll a man with a loke,]

But withowt dissimulation, I shall put you owt of this

dowte in thre wordes. To them that thay hate, thay be

Chanones, and to them that thay loue thay be Monkes

_Menede._ Yet yowe doo nat open thys redle. _Ogy._ ||

I shall paynte it before youre eyes, if the bysshope of

Rome doo shot hys thonderbowlt amõgst all monkes, thay

wyll than be chanones, & nat monkes, but and if he wold

suffre all monkes to take wyues, thã wyll they be

monkes, _Me._ O new partakeres, I wold to god they wold

take away my wyffe. _Ogy._ But to come to our purpose,

the college hathe skarsly any other *emolumêtes

[*Rêttes.] but of the liberalite of our lady. For the

great offeryngs be kepyd stylle, but if ther be any

litle some of monaye offerid that goith to the comens

of the company, & the mayster whome thay call pryoure.

_Me._ Be thay of a vertuous lyffe? _Ogy._ Nat to be

dispraysyd, thay be more vertuous thã ryche of thayr

yerely renttes. The temple ys goodly & goregious, but

oure Lady dwellythe nat in it, but that was purchasyd

for the honor of her sone. She hathe her owne temple,

|| B.|| that she may be of the ryght hand of her sone.

_Me._ Apon the right hãd. Whiche way dothe her sonne

loke than? _Ogy._ It is well remembryd. Whan he lokythe

to the West, his mother is apõ his right hand, but whã

he turnythe hym to the Este she is apon the lefte hand.

But yet she dwellythe nat in that churche, for it is

nat yet buyldyd all vpe, and the wynde runnythe thorow

euery parte with open wyndowes & dowres, and also nat

ferre of is the Occiane seye father of all wyndes.

_Me._ what doo yow tell me wher dothe she dwell thã?

_Ogy._ In ye same churche whiche I told you was nat all

fynyshyd, ther is a lytle chapell seelyd ouer with

wodde, on ether syde a lytle dore wher ye pylgrymes go

thorow, ther is lytle light, but of ye taperes, with a

fragrant smell. _Me._ All these be mete for religyon.

_Ogy._ Ye Menedemus if you loke within you || wyll say

that it is a seate mete for sayntes, all thynges be so

bright in gold, syluer, and precyous stones. _Me._ You

almost moue me to go thyther also. _Ogy._ It shalnat

repente you of your iornay. _Me._ Spryngithe ther no

holy oyle? _Ogy._ I trowe you dote, that spryngythe nat

but owt of the sepulchres of sayntes, as saynt Andrew,

& saynt Katerê, owr lady was nat beried. _Me._ I graût

I sayd amysse, but tell on your tale. _Ogy._ So moche

more as thay persayue youre deuocyõ, so moche larger

reliques wyl thay shew to you. _Me._ Ye and peraduêture

that thay may haue larger offerynges, as is sayd that,

many lytle offerynges makythe a heuy boxe. _Ogygy._ Her

chaplens be alway at hand. _Me._ Be thay of ye

Chanones? _Ogy._ No, thay be nat permyttyd to be with

her, lest that peraduenture by occasyon of that

religyon, thay shuld be plukkyd || B ij.|| frome thayr

owne religyõ, and whylst thay kepe that virgyne, thay

regard very lytle thayr awne virgynyte, alonly in that

inner chapell whiche is our ladyes preuy chãbre, ther

standithe a certayne Chanõ at the autre. _Me._ For what

purpose? _Ogy._ To receyue and kepe, that whiche is

offeryd. _Me._ dothe any man gyue ayenst hys wyll.

_Ogy._ No, but many men hathe suche a gentle

shamfastnes, that thay wyll gyue some thynge to hym

that standythe by, other thay wyll offre more largely,

whiche thay wold nat doo perauêture if that he were

absent, that standithe there. _Me._ You tell me of

mannes affectiones, whiche I my selffe prouyd very

ofte. _Ogy._ Ye trewly there be some so gyuê to our

blessyd lady, that whan thay apere to put vpe thayr

handes to offre, with a pure cõusyance, thay stayl that

whiche other men hathe gyuen. _Me._ Than || lett no man

be there, wyll nat oure Lady shote her thonderbowlte at

suche. _Ogy._ Wherfor shuld our lady rather doo so,

than God hymselffe, whom thay be nat affrayd to pluke

owt hys robes, & breake ye churche walles therfore.

_Mene._ I am in a great doubt whether I shuld, rather

maruayle apon thayre wykyd boldnes, or Goddys great

gêtlenes and longe sufferynge. _Ogy._ Apõ the Northe

parte ther is a certayne gaate, but lest that you

should make a lye, it is nat of the churche, but of the

pale that compassithe a bowte the churche yarde, and

that hathe a lytle wykyt, suche as be in great mennes

gaates, that who so euer wyll entre, must fyrst putin

hys legge, nat withowt some ioperdie, and than bowe

downe hys hedde. _Me._ It is ioperdie to goo thorow

suche a dore, to a mannes enemye. _Ogy._ So it is, the

sexten dyd tell me that || B iij.|| ther was ones a

knyght whiche fleeynge hys enemye, than aprochynge, dyd

ride thorow ye wykyte, and than the wretche dispayrynge

in hym selffe, apon a soden motion, dyd commend

hymselffe to ye blessyd virgyne, whiche was than at

hand. But now commythe the myrakle. By and by that

knyght was all in the churche yarde, and hys aduersary

was ragynge at the dore wowte. _Me._ And dyd he tell

you so maruylous a myrakle for a trewthe? _Ogy._ No

dowte. _Me._ But I suppose that he could nat so

lyghtely doo that to you so a great a philosopher.

_Ogy._ He dyd shewe to me in that same wykytte in a

plate of coper, the ymage of the knyght fastenyd with

nayles and with the same garmentes that the Englishmen

were wontyd to wayre at that tyme, as you may see in

that olde pictures, whiche wyl nat lye, Barbours had ||

but lytle lyuynge at that tyme: and dieres & websteres

gotte but litle monay. _Me._ Why so? _Ogy._ For he had

a berd like a goote, and his cote had neuer a plyte,

& it was so litle, that with strayte gyrdynge it mayd

hys body to apere lesse than it was. Ther was another

plate, that was in quantyte and fourme like to a

cheste. _Me._ Well now it is nat to be doubtyd apõ.

_Ogy._ Under ye wykyte ther was a grate of yrne, that

no man cã passe theryn but a footemã, for it is nat

conuenyent that any horsse shuld tread after apon ye

place, whiche the knyght dyd cõsecrate to owr lady.

_Me._ Nat withowt a good cause. _Ogy._ Frome that parte

toward the Este, there is a litle chapell, full of

maruayles and thyther I wête, ther was I receyuyd of

another of our ladyes chaplenes, ther we knelyd downe,

to make our litle prayeres. By & by, he broght forthe

|| B iiij.|| the ioynte of a mannes fynger, the

greatyste of thre, which I kyssyd, & askyd whose

relyques thay were, he dyd say that thay were saynt

Petres. What thapostle sayd I. Ye sayd he. Than I dyd

better beholde the ioynte, whiche for hys greatenes

myght well haue be a Gyãtes ioynte, rather than a

mannes. Than sayd I, saynt Peter must nedys be a great

man of stature. But at that word, ther was one of the

gentlemê that stode by, that could not forbere

lawghynge, for the which I was very sory. For if he had

holden hys pease, we had sene all the relyques, yet we

metely well pleasyd mayster Sextê, with gyuynge hym

.ij. or .iij. grotes. Before that chapell there was a

litle howsse, which he sayd ones in wynter tyme whan

that there was litle rowme to couer the reliques, that

it was sodenly broght & sett in that place. Under that

house || there was a couple of pittes, bothe fulle of

water to the brynkys, and thay say that ye sprynge of

thos pittes is dedicate to our lady, that water is very

colde, and medycynable for the hede ake and that

hartburnynge. _Me._ If that cold water wyll hele the

paynes in the hede and stomake, than wyll oyle put owte

fyre from hensforthe. _Ogy._ It is a myrakle that I

tell, good syr, or els what maruayle shuld it be, that

cowld water shuld slake thurste? _Me._ This may well be

one parte of your tale. _Ogy._ Thay say that the

fowntayne dyd sodenly sprynge owte of the erthe at the

commaundement of our lady, & I dilygently examenynge

althynges, dyd aske hym how many yeres it was sythe

that howsse was so sodenly broght thyther. Many yeres

agone saythe he. Yet, sayde I, the wallys doo nat apere

so old. He dyd nat denay it. No mor thes woden

|| B v.|| pyleres. He cowld nat denay but that they

were sette there nat longe agoo, and also the mater dyd

playnly testyfye ye same. Afterward, sayd I, thys roffe

which is all of rede dothe apere nat to be very olde,

& he granted also, thes greete bemes which lye

ouerthwerte, and these rafteres that hold vpe that

howsse were nat sett longe agone. He affyrmyd my

saynge. Well sayd I seynge that no parte of the housse

is lefte but all is new, how can yow say that this was

the house whiche was broght hyther so longe agoo. _Me._

I pray you how dyd the howskeper, auoyde hymselffe

frome your argumêt. _Ogy._ By & by he dyd shew to vs

the mater by the skyne of a bayre whiche had hangyd be

the rafteres a longe season, and dyd almost moke the

symplenes of owre wyttes that could nat perceyue so

manyfeste an argumête we beynge || perswadyd by this

argument, askid pardon of our ignorance, and callid

into our communycacyon the heuêly mylke of our lady.

_Me._ O how like to the sone is the mother, for he hath

left to vs so moche blood here in erthe, & she so moche

mylke, that a man wyl skarysly beleue a woman to haue

so moche mylke of one chylde, in case the chyld shuld

sukke none at all. _Ogy._ Thay saye the same of the

holy crosse, whiche is shewyd in so many places bothe

openly, and pryuately, that if ye fragmentes were

gathered apon one heape, they wold apere to be a iuste

fraghte for a shipe, and yet Christe dyd bere all his

crosse hymselffe. _Me._ But do nat you maruayll at

this? _Ogy._ It may welbe a strãge thynge, but no

maruayle, seynge that the lord whiche dothe encreasse

this at hys pleasure, is almyghty. _Me._ It is very

gently expownded, but I am || afrayd, that many of thes

be faynyd for lukre. _Ogy._ I suppose that God wold nat

suffre hymselffe to be deludyd of suche a fasshion.

_Mene._ Yis, haue nat you sene that whã bothe the

mother, the sone, the father, and the holy ghoste hathe

be robbyd of thes sacrilegyous theues, that thay

woldnat ones moue, or styre nother with bekke or crakke

wherby thay myght fray away the theues. So great is the

gentles of God. _Ogy._ So it is, but here out me tale.

This mylke is kepyd apon the hye aultre, and in the

myddys ther is Christe, with his mother apon hys ryght

hand, for her honor sake, the mylke dothe represente

the mother. _Me._ It may be sene than? _Ogy._ It is

closyd in crystalle. _Me._ It is moyste thã? _Ogy._

What tell you me of moystenes, whã it was mylkyd more

than a thowsand and fyue hunthrithe yere agone, it is

so congelyd, that a mã wold || saye that it were chalke

temperyd with the whyte of a egge. _Me._ Ye, but do

thay sette it forthe bare? _Ogy._ No, lest so holy

mylke shuld be defowlyd with the kyssynge of men. _Me._

You say well. For I suppose that ther be many that

kysse it, whiche be nother clene mouthyd, nor yet be

pure virgynes. _Ogy._ Whan ye sexten sawe vs, he dyd

runne to the aultre, & put apon hym his surplese, & his

stole about his nekke, knelyd downe relygyously, and

worshipyd it, and streghtforthe dyd offre the mylke to

vs to kysse. And at the ende of the aultre we knelyd

downe deuoutly, & the fyrste of all we salutyd Christe,

& than after we callyd apon our lady with thys prayer,

whiche we had mayd redy for the same purpose. O mother

& mayde, whiche dyd gyue sukke with thy virgynes teates

the lorde of heuen and yerthe, thy sone Iesus Christe,

we beynge puryfyed || thorowe hys precyous blode, do

desyre that we may attayne, and come to that blessyd

infancye of thy colombynes meknes, whiche is immaculate

without malice, frawde, or diseyte, and with all

affectyon of harte dothe couett and stody for the

heuenly mylke of the euangelicall doctryne, to go

forthe and encrease with it into a perfaycte man, into

the mesure of the plentefulnes of Christe, of whose

cõpany thou haste the fruycyon, togyther with the

father, & the holy ghost for euermore, so be it. _Me._

Uerely thys is a holy prayer. But what dyd she?

_Ogygy._ Thay bothe bekkyd at vs, excepte my eyes

waggyd, and me thoght that the mylke daunsyd. In the

meanseson the sexten came to vs, withowt any wordes,

but he held out a table suche as the Germanes vse to

gather tolle apon bridges. _Me._ By my trothe I haue

cursyd veryofte suche || crauynge boxes, whan I dyd

ryde thorowe Germany. _Ogy._ We dyd gyue hym certayne

monay whiche he offeryd to our lady. Thã I axyd by a

certayne yonge man, yt was well learnyd, whiche dyd

expownde and tell vs the saynge of ye Sextê, hys name

(as fere as I remembre) was Robert alderisse, by what

tokenes or argumêtes he dyd know that it was the mylke

of owr lady. And that I very fayne, & for a good

purpose desyred to knowe, that I myght stope the

mowthes of certayne newfanglyd felowes, that be wotyd

to haue suche holy relyques in derysyon and mokage.

Fyrst of all the Sexten with a froward cowntenãce wold

nat tell, but I desyryd the yong man to moue hym more

instantly, but somwhat more gently he so courtesly

behauyd hymselffe, that and he had prayd owr lady

herselffe || after that fashion, she wold nat haue be

dysplesyd therwith. And thã this mystycall chapleyn, as

and if he had be inspyryd with ye holy ghoste, castynge

at vs a frounynge loke, as & if he wold haue shote at

vs ye horryble thonderbolte of the greate curse, what

nede you (saythe he) to moue suche questyones, whan yow

see before your eyes so autentycall & old a table. And

we were afrayd lest that he wold haue cast vs out of

the churche for heretykes, but that oure monay dyd

tempte hys greate furye. _Mene._ What dyd you in the

meaneseason? _Ogygyus._ What suppose you? We were

amasyd as and if a man had stryke vs with a clube, or

we had be slayne with a thonderclape, and we very lowly

axid pardon of oure folishe boldenes, and gote vs frome

thens. For so must we entreate holy thynges. || Frome

thens we went in to ye howse where owre lady dwellithe,

and whan we came there, we sawe another Sexten whiche

was but a noues, he lokyd famylarly as and if he had

knowê vs, and whã we came a litle further in, we sawe

another, that lokyd moch after suche a fashion, at the

last came the thyrd. _Me._ Perauenture thay desyryd to

descrybe you. _Ogy._ But I suspecte another mater.

_Mene._ What was it? _Ogygy._ There was a certayne

theffe that had stole almost all owr ladyes frontlet,

and I supposyd that they had me in suspycyon thereof.

And therfore whan I was within the chapell I mayd my

prayers to our lady after thys fashiõ. Oh cheffe of all

women Mary the mayd, most happy mother, moste pure

virgyne, we vnclene, and synners, doo vysyte the pure &

holy, and after our abylytye we haue offeryd vnto the,

we pray thy that thy || C.|| sone may grante this to

vs, that we may folow thy holy lyffe, and that we may

deserue thorow the grace of the holy ghoste,

spirytually to cõceyue the lord Iesus Christ, & after

that conceptyon neuer to be separat from hym, Amen.

This done I kyssyd the aultre, and layd downe certayne

grotes for myne offerynge and went my waye. _Me._ What

dyde our lady now, dyd nat she make one sygne, that you

myght know that she had hard youre prayeres. _Ogy._ The

lyght (as I told you before) was but litle, and she

stode at the ryght ende of the aultre in the derke

corner, at the last the communicatyõ of the fyrst

Sexten had so discoregyd me, that I durst not ones loke

vpe with myne eyes. _Me._ This pylgremage came but to

smale effecte. _Ogy.._ Yes, it had a very good & mery

ende. _Me._ You haue causyd me to take harte of grasse,

for (as Homere || saythe) my harte was almost in my

hose. _Ogy._ Whan dynar was done, we returnyd to ye

temple. _Me._ Durste you goo & be susspecte of felonye?

_Ogy._ Perauenture so, but I had nat my selffe in

suspiciõ, a gyltles mynde puttythe away feare. I was

very desyrous to see that table whiche the holy Sexten

dyd open to vs. At the last we fownde it, but it was

hãgyd so hye that very fewe could rede it. My eyes be

of that fashion, that I can nother be callyd *Linceus,

[*Linceus ys a beaste so quike eyed that it wyll see

thorow any wall] nother purre blynd. And therefore I

instantly desyryd Alldryge to rede it, whose redynge I

folowyd with myne owne eyes, because I wold skarsly

truste hym in suche a mater. _Me._ Well, now all

doubtes be discussyd. _Ogy._ I was ashamyd that I

doubtyd so moche, ye mater was so playne set forthe

before oure eyes, bothe the name, the place, the thynge

it selffe as it was || C ij.|| done, to be breffe,

there was nothynge lefte owte. There was a mane whos

name was Wylyam whiche was borne in Parise, a man very

deuoute in many thyngs but pryncypally excedynge

relygyous in searchynge for the relyques of all sayntes

thorowowt all the world. He after that he had vysytyd

many places, contrayes, and regyones, at the laste

came to Cõstantynenople. For Wylhelmes brother was

there byshope, whiche dyd make hym pry to a certayne

mayde, whiche had professyd chastyte, that hadde parte

of oure ladyes mylke, which were an excedynge precyous

relyque, if that other with prayer, or monaye, or by

any crafte it myghte be gotte. For all the reliques

that he hadde gotte before were but tryfles to so holy

mylke. Wyllyam wold not rest there tyll that he had

gotte halffe of that holy mylke, but whan he had ||

it, he thoghte that he was richer than Croeseus. _Me._

Why nat, but was it nat withowt any goodhope? _Ogy._ He

went thã streght home, but in hys iornay he fell seke.

_Me._ Iesu there is nothynge in thys worlde that is

other permanent, or alwayes in good state. _Ogy._ But

whan he sawe & perceyuyd that he was in greate ioperdye

of his lyffe, he callyd to him a frenchman, whiche was

a very trusty companyon to hym in hys iornay. And

commaundyd all to auoyd the place, and make sylence, &

pryuyly dyd betake to hym thys mylke, apon this

condycyõ, that if it chãcyd to come home saffe & sownde

he wuld offre that precyous tresure to our ladyes

aultre in Paryse, whiche standythe in the myddys of the

ryuere Sequana, whiche dothe apere to separat hymselffe

to honor and obaye our blessyd lady. But to make short

tale. Wylyam is deade, & || C iij.|| buryed, the

Frenchman mayd hym redy to departe apon hys iornay,

& sodêly fell seke also. And he in great dyspayre of

amendynge, dyd commyth ye mylke to an Englishmã, but

nat withowt great instance, and moche prayer he dyd

that whiche he was mouyd to doo. Than dyed he. And ye

other dyd take the mylke, and put it apon an aultre of

ye same place the Chanones beynge present, whiche were

yt as we call Regulares. Thay be yet in the abbaye of

saynt Genofeffe. But ye Englishmã obtaynyd the halffe

of that mylke, & caryed it to Walsyngã in England, the

holy ghost put suche in hys mynde. _Me._ By my trothe

this is a godly tale. _Ogy._ But lest there shuld be

any doubte of this mater, ye Byshopes whiche dyd grante

pardon to it thayre names be wryten there, as thay came

to vysyte it, nat withowt thayre offerynges, and thay

haue || gyuen to it remyssyon, as moche as thay had to

gyue by thayre authorite. _Me._ How moche is that?

_Ogy._ Fowrty dayes. _Mene._ Yee is there dayes in

hell. _Ogy._ Trewly ther is tyme. Ye but whan thay haue

grãtyd all thayre stynte, thay haue no more to grante.

_Ogy._ That is nat so for whan one parte is gone

another dothe encrease, and it chansythe dyuersly euyn

as the tonne of Canaidus. For that althoghe it be

incontynently fyllyd, yet it is alway emptye: and if

thou be takynge owt of it, yet there is neuer the lesse

in the barell. _Me._ If thay grãte to an hunderithe

thowsand mê fowrty dayes of pardone, wuld euery man

haue elyke? _Ogy._ No doubte of that. _Me._ And if any

haue forty byfore dynar, may he axe other forty at

after souper, is there any thynge left than to gyue

him? _Ogy._ Ye, & if thou aske it ten tymes in one

howre. _Me._ I wold || C iiij.|| to God that I had

suche a pardon bagge, I wold aske but .iij. grotes, and

if thay wold flowe so faste. _Ogy._ Ye but you desyre

to be to ryche, if that you myght for wyshynge, but I

wyl turne to my tale, but there was some good holy man

whiche dyd gyue this argumente of holynes to that

mylke, and sayd that our Ladyes mylke whiche is in many

other places, is precyous & to be worshipyd but thys is

moche more precyous, & to be honoryd, bycause the other

was shauen of stones, but this is the same that came

out of the virgynes brest. _Me._ How kno you that?

_Ogy._ The mayd of Cõstantynople, which dyd gyue it,

dyd saye so. _Me._ Perauenture saynt Barnard dyd gyue

it to her. _Ogy._ So I suppose. For whã he was an old

man, yet he was so happy that he sukkyd of ye same

mylke, that Iesus hymselffe sukkyd apon. _Me._ But I

maruayle why he was || rather callyd a hony sukker than

a mylke sukker. But how is it callyd oure ladyes mylke

that came neuer owt of her breste? _Ogy._ Yes it came

owt at her breste, but perauenture it light apon the

stone that he whiche sukkyd knelyd apon, and ther was

receyuyd, and so is encreasyd, & by ye wyll of god is

so multyplyed. _Me._ It is wel sayd. _Ogy._ Whan we had

sene all thys, whyle that we were walkynge vpe & downe,

if that any thynge of valure were offeryd, so that

anybody were present to see thaym ye Sextens mayd great

haste for feare of crafty cõuayêce, lokynge apõ thaym

as thay wold eate thaym. Thay poynte at hym with there

fynger, thay runne, thay goo, thay come, thay bekke one

to an other, as tho thay wold speake to thaym that

stand by if thay durste haue be bold. _Mene._ Were you

afrayd of nothynge there? _Ogy._ Yis I dyd loke

|| C v.|| apõ hym, lawghynge as who shold saye I wold

moue him to speake to me, at laste he cam to me, and

axid me what was my name, I told him. He axid me if yt

were nat I that dyd hange vpe there a table of my vowe

writen in Hebrew, within .ij. yere before. I confessid

that it was ye same. _Me._ Cã you wryte hebrewe?

_Ogygy._ No but all that thay cãnat vnderstond, thay

suppose to be Hebrewe. And than (I suppose he was send

for) came the posterior pryor. _Me._ What name of

worshipe is that? Haue thay nat an abbate? _Ogy._ No

_Me._ Why so? _Ogy._ For thay cannat speake Hebrew.

_Me._ Haue thay nat a Bishope? _Ogy._ No. _Me._ What is

ye cause? _Ogy._ For oure lady is nat as yet so ryche,

that she is able to bye a crosse, & a mytre, whiche be

so deare, _Me._ Yet at least haue thay nat a

presedente? _Ogy._ No veryly. What lettythe thaym?

_Ogy._ That is a name || of dygnyte and nat of relygyõ.

And also for that cause suche abbayes of Chanones, doo

nat receyue the name of an abbate, thay doo call thaym

maysters? _Me._ Ye, but I neuer hard tell of pryor

posterior before. _Ogy._ Dyd you neuer learne youre

grãmere before. _Me._ Yis I know prior posterior amõgst

the fygures. _Ogy._ That same is it. It is he that is

nexte to the prioure, for there priour is posterior.

_Me._ You speake apon the supprioure. _Ogy._ That same

dyd entertayne me very gently, he told me what greate

labure had be abowt ye readynge of thos verses, & how

many dyd rubbe thayr spectakles abowt thaym. As oft as

any old ancyent doctor other of deuynyte or of the

lawe, resorted thyder, by and by he was broght to that

table, some sayd that thay were lettres of Arabia, some

sayd thay were faynyd lettres. Well || at the last came

one that redde the tytle, it was wryten in laten with

greate Romayne lettres, ye Greke was wryten with

capytale lettres of Greke, whiche at the fyrst syght do

apere to be capytale latê lettres, at thayr desyer I

dyd expownde ye verses in laten, trãslatynge thaym word

for word. But whã thay wold haue gyuyn me for my

labour, I refusyd it, seynge that ther was nothynge so

hard that I wold not doo for our blessyd ladyes sake,

ye thogh she wold commaûd me to bere this table to

Hierusalê. _Me._ What nede you to be her caryoure,

seynge that she hathe so many angelles bothe at her

hedde and at her fette. _Ogy._ Than he pullid owt of

hys purse a pece of wodde, that was cutt owte of the

blokke that our ladye lenyd apon. I perceyuyd by and by

thorow the smell of it, that it was a holy thynge. Than

whan I sawe so || greate a relyque, putt of my cappe,

and fel down flatte, & very deuoutly kyssyd it .iij. or

.iiii tymes, poppyd it in my pursse. _Me._ I pray you

may a man see it? _Ogy._ I gyue you good leue. But if

you be nat fastynge, or if you accompanyed with yowre

wyffe the nyght before, I conceyle you nat to loke apon

it. _Me._ O blessed arte thou that euer thou gotte this

relyque. _Ogy._ I may tell you in cowncell, I wold nat

gyue thys litle pece for all ye gold that Tagus hathe,

I wyll sett it in gold, but so that it shall apere

thorow a crystall stone. And than the Supprioure whã he

sawe that I dyd take the relyque so honorably, he

thoght it shuld nat be lost, in case he shuld shew me

greater mysteries, he dyd aske me whether I hadde euer

sene our ladyes secretes, but at that word I was

astonyed, yet I durst nat be so so bold as to demande

what thos || secretes were. For in so holy thynges to

speake a mysse is no small danger. I sayd that I dyd

neuer se thaym but I sayd that I wold be very glade to

see thaym. But now I was broght in, and as I had be

inspired with the holy ghost, than thay lyghted a

couple of taperes, & set forthe a litle ymage, nat

couryously wroght, nor yet very gorgeous, but of a

meruelous virtue. _Me._ That litle body hathe smale

powre to worke myrakles. I saw saynt Christopher at

Parise, nat a carte lode, but as moche as a greate

hylle, yet he neuer dyd myrakles as farre as euer I

herd telle. _Ogy._ At our ladyes fette there is a

precyous stone, whos name as it is nother in Greke nor

Laten. The Frenchemã gaue it the name of a tode,

bycause it is so like, that no man (althoghe he be

conynge) can set it forthe more lyuely. But so moche

greater is || the myrakle, that the stone is litle, the

fourme of the tode dothe nat apere, but it shynythe as

it were enclosyd within that precyous stone. _Me._

Perauenture they ymagyne ye symylytude of a tode to

be there, euyn as we suppose whan we cutte ye fearne

stalke there to be an egle, and euyn as chyldren

(whiche they see nat indede) in ye clowdes, thynke they

see dragones spyttynge fyre, & hylles flammynge with

fyre, & armyd mê encownterynge. _Ogy._ No, I wold you

shuld know it, there is no lyuynge tode that more

euydêtly dothe expresse hymselffe than it dyd there

playnly apere. _Me._ Hetherto I haue sufferyd thy lyes,

but now get the another that wyll beleue the, thy tale

of a tode. _Ogy._ No maruayle Menedemus thogh you be so

disposyd, for all the world cannot make me to beleue

yt, not & all doctoures of dyuynyte wold swere || it

were trewe. But that I sawe it with myne eyes, ye with

thes same eyes, dyd I proue it. But in ye meanseson me

thynke you regard naturall phylosophye but litle. _Me._

why so, because I wyll nat beleue ye asses flye? _Ogy._

An do you nat se, how nature the worker of all thynges,

dothe so excell in expressynge ye fourme bewty, &

coloure of thaym maruylously in other thynges, but

pryncypaly in precyous stones? moreouer she hathe gyuen

to ye same stones wonderouse vertu and strêkthe that is

almost incredyble, but that experience dothe otherwyse

testyfye. Tell me, do you beleue that a Adamand stone

wold drawe vnto him stele withowt any towchynge therof,

and also to be separate frome him ayen of hys owne

accorde, excepte that yow had sene it with yowre eyes.

_Me._ No verely, nat and if .x. Arystoteles wold

perswade me || to the contrarye. _Ogy._ Therfore

bycause you shuld nat say thys were a lye, in case you

here any thynge, whiche you haue not sene prouyd. In a

stone callyd Ceraunia we see ye fashon of lightnynge,

in the stone Pyropo wyldfyre, Chelazia dothe expresse

bothe the coldnes and the fourme of hayle, and thoghe

thou cast in to the hote fyre, an Emrode, wyll

expresse the clere water of the seye. Carcinas dothe

counterfayte ye shape of a crabfishe. Echites of the

serpente vyper. But to what purpose shuld I entreat, or

inuestygate the nature of suche thynges whiche be

innumerable, whã there is no parte of nature nor in the

elementes, nother in any lyuynge creature, other in

planetes, or herbes ye nature euyn as it were all of

pleasure hathe not expressyd in precyous stones? Doo

yow maruayle thã that in thys stone at owre ladies

fote, || D.|| is the fourme and fashon of a tode. _Me._

I maruayle that nature shuld haue so moche lesure, so

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