Mr. BURLESON. But this date——

Mrs. GRANT. So, he never got that—that’s the wrong date.

Mr. BURLESON. That date really should be early Friday morning, November

22, 1963?

Mrs. GRANT. Yes.

Mr. BURLESON. Which would have been following Thursday. All right. Now,

directing your attention——

Mrs. GRANT. Can I add in over here something. When he was at my

apartment Friday the phone rang and Andy, who is our bartender, said,

“Jack, call Don Safran.”

Mr. BURLESON. Just a minute, we are coming to that, but I want to

direct your attention now to the next statement after the one I just

read. “She advised that after President Kennedy was assassinated

on November 22, 1963, he called the newspapers to change the

advertisements to show that the club would be closed Friday, Saturday

and Sunday, November 22d, 23d, and 24th, 1963.” Would you care to

explain that just a little bit?

Mrs. GRANT. Yes; I heard him call the Dallas Morning News, because

there was a paper coming out at 10 o’clock at night and it seemed to me

that they said it was too late—the Dallas news—you know how it comes

out?

Mr. BURLESON. The first edition?

Mrs. GRANT. Yes; but he said, anyway, put it in Friday, Saturday, and

Sunday, and I heard——

Mr. BURLESON. And it was on the afternoon of November 22d?

Mrs. GRANT. That’s right.

Mr. BURLESON. That he called from your place?

Mrs. GRANT. That’s right.

Mr. BURLESON. He called both of the papers?

Mrs. GRANT. That’s right. Then, he called the Times Herald, but in

between this, it seems that Andy called, who was in charge of the

Carousel Club and he said, “Call Don Saffran.”

Mr. BURLESON. All right. Now, we are going to get onto that but is that

all you wanted to say about what we have just talked about?

Mrs. GRANT. Yes.

Mr. BURLESON. The next immediate following statement says, “She said

that Don Saffran (PH) a newspaper reporter for the Dallas Times Herald,

called him and wanted to know if he was sure,” and I am continuing on

page 3, “he was not going to operate those clubs on any of those three

days. He pointed out that some of the other clubs apparently were not

going to be closed for even one night.

“When Ruby heard that the other clubs were not going to be closed, he

became quite upset and asked Don how anyone with any kind of conscience

could dance and have a good time after the President had been killed.

He ended up by telling Don that he did not care what anyone else did,

that he was going to close for those three days.”

And that is the end of those several sentences. What do you want to add

in your deposition about that?

Mrs. GRANT. Well, as I said, Andy called him and he called Don and

he says, “I’m going to close tonight—tonight.” And this is what Don

says, “Are you going to be closed Saturday and Sunday?” I don’t know

what Jack said, I’ll be honest, at that time, but Jack—there was about

a 3-minute hesitation and he says, “I’m calling him back,” and this

is what I heard him say—he said, “Don this is Jack Ruby.” He said,

“Listen, I will be closed for three days—tonight, Friday, Saturday, and

Sunday,” and he says, “I don’t care when the other clubs close,” and he

says, “We’re broke anyway so—”. In other words, he felt he can’t get

any worse off than he is—it isn’t that he makes a million dollars—I

mean, that was his attitude.

Mr. BURLESON. The rest of page 3, the following three paragraphs on

page 3 appear to be correct; is that right?

Mrs. GRANT. But I wanted to clear this—you see, this wasn’t put in.

Mr. BURLESON. Well, let me ask you this: We are now referring to

the first full or complete paragraph on page 3, which says, “Mrs.

Grant displayed a page from the Dallas Morning News, dated Saturday,

November 23d, 1963, in Section 1, Page 19, containing a one column ad

approximately four inches in length, stating that the Carousel Club on

Main Street, Dallas, would be closed Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.”

What do you want to say about that?

Mrs. GRANT. Well, I understand the early edition didn’t have it yet.

Mr. BURLESON. All right. In reference to the next paragraph, it says,

“Mrs. Grant recalled that on the day of the President’s assassination,

November 22, 1963, Jack Ruby telephoned her at least eight times and

made three personal visits to her apartment,”—what correction or change

do you want to make?

Mrs. GRANT. I think he came twice—one time early in the day and once

later in the afternoon with the groceries.

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