Mr. RUBY. Wait, we have got to clarify something else. We are getting
ahead of ourselves.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me just pinpoint time here. Was your conversation with
Woodfield about Woodfield not being able to write the Belli story, did
that conversation occur before, during, or after the trial of your
brother?
Mr. RUBY. During, I would say.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You indicate by your tone of voice and your words that you
are not certain as to when this took place. Could you try to think of
what the surrounding circumstances were of this conversation and other
things to pinpoint the time?
Mr. RUBY. It wasn’t after, I know. Whether or not it was before, it
could have been just before, because I don’t remember when Al Moscow
came down the first time.
Oh, well, we can know exactly. It was published all over the country
that Belli had signed a contract to do a story on Jack Ruby and the
trial and all that stuff, and it was all over the country, with Al
Moscow to do the writing. So we can pinpoint that. I don’t remember the
date.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, I took you off the track. Get back on your track.
Mr. RUBY. Where was I?
Mr. GRIFFIN. You said that we were skipping ahead, I think.
Mr. HUBERT. I think the last thing you were talking about before we
diverted into these other aspects was that you said you had nothing to
lose.
Mr. RUBY. Yes; that is right, so that evening we went to see Belli.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did you see Belli?
Mr. RUBY. In a home—a used home he had recently purchased in L.A.
Mr. HUBERT. Was an appointment made by them to see him?
Mr. RUBY. Yes; oh, yes. I think it was 7 o’clock, if I am not mistaken,
that evening.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did they call Belli? Where was Belli when they
called him to make the appointment.
Mr. RUBY. In L.A. from what they told me.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; but do you know whether he was at his house or in an
office or in a hotel or in a cocktail lounge or where he might have
been?
Mr. RUBY. I don’t recall. I don’t remember.
Mr. HUBERT. Were you present when they called to make the appointment?
Mr. RUBY. I don’t remember that, either.
Mr. HUBERT. So we are at the point that you do go to see Belli.
Mr. RUBY. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. I think this is a good breaking point for lunch.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Maybe.
(Whereupon, at 1:10 p.m., the proceeding was recessed.)