Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, was this before——

Mr. RUBY. Wait, we have got to clarify something else. We are getting

ahead of ourselves.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me just pinpoint time here. Was your conversation with

Woodfield about Woodfield not being able to write the Belli story, did

that conversation occur before, during, or after the trial of your

brother?

Mr. RUBY. During, I would say.

Mr. GRIFFIN. You indicate by your tone of voice and your words that you

are not certain as to when this took place. Could you try to think of

what the surrounding circumstances were of this conversation and other

things to pinpoint the time?

Mr. RUBY. It wasn’t after, I know. Whether or not it was before, it

could have been just before, because I don’t remember when Al Moscow

came down the first time.

Oh, well, we can know exactly. It was published all over the country

that Belli had signed a contract to do a story on Jack Ruby and the

trial and all that stuff, and it was all over the country, with Al

Moscow to do the writing. So we can pinpoint that. I don’t remember the

date.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, I took you off the track. Get back on your track.

Mr. RUBY. Where was I?

Mr. GRIFFIN. You said that we were skipping ahead, I think.

Mr. HUBERT. I think the last thing you were talking about before we

diverted into these other aspects was that you said you had nothing to

lose.

Mr. RUBY. Yes; that is right, so that evening we went to see Belli.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did you see Belli?

Mr. RUBY. In a home—a used home he had recently purchased in L.A.

Mr. HUBERT. Was an appointment made by them to see him?

Mr. RUBY. Yes; oh, yes. I think it was 7 o’clock, if I am not mistaken,

that evening.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did they call Belli? Where was Belli when they

called him to make the appointment.

Mr. RUBY. In L.A. from what they told me.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; but do you know whether he was at his house or in an

office or in a hotel or in a cocktail lounge or where he might have

been?

Mr. RUBY. I don’t recall. I don’t remember.

Mr. HUBERT. Were you present when they called to make the appointment?

Mr. RUBY. I don’t remember that, either.

Mr. HUBERT. So we are at the point that you do go to see Belli.

Mr. RUBY. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. I think this is a good breaking point for lunch.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Maybe.

(Whereupon, at 1:10 p.m., the proceeding was recessed.)

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