Mr. GRIFFIN. And were you——

Mr. SENATOR. It might have been in the early part of the afternoon. I

am not sure. But I also met him later. It must have been around 8 or

8:30 when we went out together. I was at the Burgundy Room. Then we

went to this other place.

Mr. GRIFFIN. It is your recollection that you saw Downey then both in

the afternoon and the evening?

Mr. SENATOR. I think I saw him in the afternoon, but the evening for

sure. I think I saw him in the afternoon. I am not sure. I think I made

an appointment to meet him later, and then we would go out for a beer

or two. This is what I think. I think now I am not sure on that.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you troubled on Saturday over your having gone with

Jack out to photograph this impeach Earl Warren sign?

Mr. SENATOR. Was I troubled when I went with him?

Mr. GRIFFIN. On Saturday did this trouble you in any way?

Mr. SENATOR. You mean Saturday afternoon?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.

Mr. SENATOR. You mean did I think about it?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.

Mr. SENATOR. Oh, I imagine that I would probably say that I had thought

about it; yes. As a matter of fact, I thought about that thing many a

time; I don’t know why; I don’t know why he wanted to go out that night

and take these pictures. He never mentioned why he wanted to see it or

why he wanted to snap the pictures.

Mr. GRIFFIN. You didn’t mention this to the Dallas Police Department?

Mr. SENATOR. No.

Mr. GRIFFIN. You did mention, however, that you went out with Jack and

had coffee with him that morning?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes; at the Southland Hotel.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Of course, this was all in sequence with having gone out

to see that Earl Warren sign?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. But what was it that made you omit to tell the police that?

Mr. SENATOR. Nothing particularly. I don’t know why. Just it was a

shaken-up day for me.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you worried that this might hurt Jack to talk about

that particular episode?

Mr. SENATOR. No. As a matter of fact, it would do him justice.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How do you feel that way?

Mr. SENATOR. I think if a man is exploring somebody who put out a sign,

whoever it may be, who would want to impeach Earl Warren, our Supreme

Court Justice, or somebody who would put out these whys about the

President the day he is coming here, which weren’t good, the whys, I

would say that this would be in favor of him of wanting to know these

things, why should they be.

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