Mr. HUBERT. Did you tell either the State officer who interrogated you
or the FBI man who interrogated you that you had a lawyer and that his
name was Martin?
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t think I did.
Mr. HUBERT. You did not ask that your lawyer be present?
Mr. SENATOR. No; I didn’t.
Mr. HUBERT. What occurred then after the interview with the FBI man was
over? What happened?
Mr. SENATOR. Then they let me go. They released me.
Mr. HUBERT. Who did that, in fact, the FBI man or a State officer?
Mr. SENATOR. The FBI man. If I remember right, I think the FBI man
said, “That is all there is.” That is all there was of the interview.
Mr. HUBERT. And you were permitted to leave?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember what time you left?
Mr. SENATOR. I would say it was between 6 and 7 at night because I know
when I got outside again it was dark.
Mr. HUBERT. Was anybody waiting for you?
Mr. SENATOR. No; there was nobody waiting for me. Somebody gave me a
message, or handed me a message, I don’t remember who it was, that Jim
Martin would meet me, the fellow who brought me down, the attorney who
brought me down.
Mr. HUBERT. Was that a police officer?
Mr. SENATOR. No, no; you mean who handed me the message?
Mr. HUBERT. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t remember.
Mr. HUBERT. Was it a written message? I asked that because you said you
did not remember who handed you——
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t remember who it was.
Mr. HUBERT. Which would indicate it was written, you see?
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t remember who it was. All he said, he would meet me
there. In other words, he was going to meet me across the street from
the——
Mr. HUBERT. Was it a verbal message?
Mr. SENATOR. I think it was a written message. I don’t remember who
gave it to me.
Mr. HUBERT. You just put it in your pocket or something?
Mr. SENATOR. No; I read it.
Mr. HUBERT. You read it and threw it away?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I knew I would meet him. So I met him. As a matter
of fact, I was with three attorneys when we met, either two or three
attorneys.
Mr. HUBERT. Mr. Griffin, do you want to ask any questions on this
segment that I have covered this morning up to this point?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; I want to go back a little bit. When Jack Ruby left
the house Sunday morning, you were dressed, were you not?
Mr. SENATOR. I?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You were not dressed?
Mr. SENATOR. No; I was in my underwear.
Mr. GRIFFIN. When you got down to the Eatwell Restaurant, can you tell
us which of the waitresses, management people, were on duty?
Mr. SENATOR. Which of the waitresses?
Mr. GRIFFIN. And management people were on duty.
Mr. SENATOR. I would say there were probably two or—no; not glancing
around or anything of that nature, I would probably say there were 2 or
3 waitresses.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You eat there regularly?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I stop there every day.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You say you know these waitresses?
Mir. SENATOR. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. So what I am asking you is to tell us which of the
waitresses were on duty.
Mr. SENATOR. I could recollect the one who said it when I heard her say
it.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Which one was that?
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t know her name. I know her.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you not know the names of any of the people who work in
there?
Mr. SENATOR. This girl here, I mean I know them all, but I don’t know
them by name.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know any of them by name?
Mr. SENATOR. No; I don’t know any of them by name.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know the names of the owners?
Mr. SENATOR. I know the owner. I know his first name. I don’t know his
last name.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What is that?
Mr. SENATOR. His first name is Jim. There is a father and son. Jim is
the father and Charles is the son.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How old would you say they are?
Mr. SENATOR. I would probably say Charles must be—of course, they
weren’t there that day. Charles I would probably say is in—could be
in I guess his late thirties, I’m not sure, and the father I would
probably say is maybe in his late sixties or early seventies.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Can you describe the waitress that was on duty?
Mr. SENATOR. She was a woman about, I would probably say in her late
forties or maybe early fifties, dark haired if I remember rightly, and
I believe brown eyes. I don’t know how to describe her.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know a waitress there by the name of Helen?
Mr. SENATOR. Helen? A little short girl.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I don’t know what she looks like.
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I know one. The other is a little short girl I think
by the name of Helen. I think it is Helen. See, now once in a while
they wear badges but I can’t remember one from the other, outside of
their faces. I always say hello to them. On the other hand, I never
take that much notice of who’s who.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Of course, the waitress who was on duty knew that you were
Jack Ruby’s roommate, did she not?
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t think so. I don’t think she did.