Mr. SENATOR. The handouts is when I was completely out.
Mr. HUBERT. You didn’t have any employment at all?
Mr. SENATOR. No, I was completely out.
Mr. HUBERT. That was for about a year, year and a half?
Mr. SENATOR. I would say about a year and a half at a rough guess.
Mr. HUBERT. When did that begin and when did that end, that year and a
half? Let’s look at it this way: You were not working at the time you
were living with Ruby, were you, that is to say you were not making any
money?
Mr. SENATOR. No.
Mr. HUBERT. You were not contributing?
Mr. SENATOR. No. Ruby gave me handouts.
Mr. HUBERT. That is right?
Mr. SENATOR. Certainly.
Mr. HUBERT. So that is a year and a half back from November of 1963, is
it not, roughly?
Mr. SENATOR. No, I was with this Volume Sales like you mentioned before.
Mr. HUBERT. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. I was with them. Now, I was with Volume for maybe about 9
months, I think.
Mr. HUBERT. Let’s take the time that you were with Corbat. Was that on
a handout basis too, or did you pay your fair share then?
Mr. SENATOR. No; with Corbat I paid him very little. I’ll tell you when
I paid him very little, though. I paid him very little when I first
moved in with him, because I had no money.