CHAPTER XI

THE POST OFFICE EMPLOYEES CONTINUE TO PRESS THE HOUSE OF COMMONS FOR

INCREASES OF WAGES AND SALARIES

The Post Office employees demand "a new judgment on the

old facts." Mr. S. Woods' Motion, in February, 1898. Mr.

Steadman's Motions in February and June, 1899. Mr. Hanbury,

Financial Secretary to the Treasury, points out that the

postal employees are demanding a House of Commons Select

Committee because under such a Committee "the agitation and

pressure, now distributed over the whole House, would be

focussed and concentrated upon the unfortunate members of the

Select Committee." Mr. Steadman's Motion, in April, 1900. Mr.

Bayley's Motion, in June, 1901. Mr. Balfour, Prime Minister,

confesses that the debate has filled him "with considerable

anxiety as to the future of the public service if pressure

of the kind which has been put upon the Government to-night

is persisted in by the House." Captain Norton's Motion, in

April, 1902. The Government compromises by appointing the

Bradford Committee of business men. Mr. Austen Chamberlain,

Postmaster General, states that members from both sides of the

House "seek from him, in his position as Postmaster General,

protection for them in the discharge of their public duties

against the pressure sought to be put upon them by employees

of the Post Office." He adds: "Even if the machinery by

which our Select Committees are appointed were such as would

enable us to secure a Select Committee composed of thoroughly

impartial men who had committed themselves by no expression of

opinion, I still think that it would not be fair to pick out

fifteen members of this House and make them marked men for the

purpose of such pressure as is now distributed more or less

over the whole Assembly."

[Sidenote: _Civil Servants demand Right to agitate_]

On February 18, 1898, in the House of Commons, Mr. S. Woods[182] moved:

"And we humbly represent to Your Majesty that your servants in the

Post Office are not permitted to exercise the franchise, generally

allowed to other Departments in the State; nor to serve on electoral

committees; nor to take part in political agitation; and are otherwise

deprived of the privileges of citizenship in defiance of the letter

and spirit of the law; that the officials of the Post Office refuse to

recognize the Postmen's Trade Union; their officials are illegally and

unjustly dismissed for circularizing Parliamentary Candidates; and we

humbly beg Your Majesty to instruct the Postmaster General to remedy

these grievances."[183]

Sir James Fergusson, a former Postmaster General, said Mr. Woods'

motion had been brought "by the direction of the central Committee of

the Postal Union, or some such party." He continued with the statement

that the motion was the outcome of the agitation carried on since he,

Sir James Fergusson, had dismissed from the Post Office service Messrs.

Clery and Cheeseman, the ringleaders of a political campaign carried

on in violation of Sir James Fergusson's order of June 17, 1892. He

said the employees in the Revenue Departments had been disfranchised

in 1782 by the Marquis of Rockingham, Prime Minister, but that the

franchise had been restored to them in 1868. That in that year both Mr.

Disraeli and Mr. Gladstone had approved the policy of enfranchising

the employees of the Revenue Departments, subject to the limitation

that the ministerial heads of the Departments were to have the power to

determine the limits within which the employees were to take an active

part in politics. That an attempt had been made in 1874 to remove that

limitation, but that the House had supported the Government of the day

in resisting the attempt.[184]

[Sidenote: _House of Commons is Civil Servants' Court of Appeal_]

Mr. R. W. Hanbury, Financial Secretary to the Treasury, and

representative in the House of Commons of the Postmaster General, the

Duke of Norfolk, said, in the course of his reply to Mr. Woods: "We

must recognize the fact that in this House of Commons, public servants

have a Court of Appeal such as exists with regard to no private

employee whatever. It is a Court of Appeal which not only exists with

regard to the grievances of classes, and even of individuals, but it is

a Court of Appeal which applies even to the wages and duties of classes

and individuals, and its functions in that respect are only limited by

the common sense of Members, who should exercise caution in bringing

forward cases of individuals, because, if political influence is

brought to bear in favor of one individual, the chances are that injury

is done to some other individual.... I think it is only reasonable to

expect that, as both [political] parties in the State have dropped

party politics with regard to their employees, the employees should

in turn recognize that fact, and drop party politics with regard to

their employers." Mr. Hanbury enforced this point by stating that, upon

the request of the Civil Servants themselves, Lord Rockingham, Prime

Minister, in 1782 had disfranchised the Civil Servants in the Revenue

Departments. At that time the party in power, through the Public

Service, controlled 70 seats in Parliament. Lord North, who had been

in power twelve years, had sent out notices to certain constituencies

where the Civil Servants were able to turn the scale, saying, that

unless the Civil Servants supported the Government, it would go hard

with them. Thereupon the Opposition had sent out counter notices, and

thus had put the Civil Service in an awkward position. The result had

been that the Civil Servants themselves had requested Lord Rockingham

to disfranchise them.

Mr. Hanbury continued with the statement that, in 1892, Sir James

Fergusson had dismissed Mr. Clery for ignoring his order forbidding

Civil Servants to "circularize" parliamentary candidates. Thereupon

Mr. Clery, at Newcastle-on-Tyne, had said to a political meeting

of postmen: "They must approach the House of Commons on its weak

side; they must influence Members through their susceptibilities as

opportunity presents itself when candidates appeal to their respective

constituencies. A man is never more amenable to reason than when making

a request." Mr. Hanbury continued: "What private employee is able to

say: 'I am the permanent servant of my employer; I have a share in

declaring who that employer shall be; I will attack him on his weak

side when he comes up for re-election, and then I will use my power? I

will bring organized pressure to bear throughout the constituencies,

and I will make this bargain: that if he will not vote for an increase

in my pay, or diminish my duties, then I will not give him my vote.'

We have done away with personal and individual bribery, but there is

still a worse form of bribery, and that is when a man asks a candidate

to buy his vote out of the public purse. There are three great things

which distinguish our permanent public service. There is, in the first

place, the remarkable loyalty with which they serve both parties in

the State. Then there is the permanency of their employment. Again,

a great feature of that service is that no longer is it a question

of favoritism, but promotion by merit is the rule. Those three great

features have been slowly built upon this foundation--the elimination

altogether of the element of political partisanship from the service.

I hope nothing will be done to break down those foundations, on which

alone the public service can rest--a service which, for its efficiency,

its loyalty, and its high sense of public duty, I do not think is

surpassed. I doubt whether it is equalled or even approached."

Mr. Woods' Motion was lost by a vote of 163 to 86. It was supported

almost exclusively by the Opposition, only three Government supporters

voting for it.[185]

[Sidenote: _Mr. Steadman demands a Select Committee_]

In the House of Commons, on February 20, 1899, Mr. Steadman[186]

moved: "And we humbly represent to Your Majesty that, in view of the

great discontent existing among employees of the Postal and Telegraph

Services, immediate inquiry should be made into the causes of

complaint."[187] Mr. Steadman had been elected to the House of Commons

by a majority of twenty votes.

[Sidenote: _Parliament not competent to judge_]

Mr. R. W. Hanbury, Financial Secretary to the Treasury, replied that

no new facts had been brought to light since the Tweedmouth Committee

and the Norfolk-Hanbury Committee had made concessions entailing an

annual expenditure of $1,900,000 a year. The Post Office servants

were demanding "a new judgment on the old facts." He continued: "I

confess, I am not quite sure that we did not go too far [in 1897],

because by increasing these salaries we are bringing into this service

an entirely new social class; you are bringing in men who perhaps are

socially a little above their work, and these men naturally have a

standard of living and requirements which are not essential to men

doing this kind of work. If we are going to raise the salaries more

and more, you will get a higher social class into the service, and

there will be no limit to the demands made upon us." Mr. Hanbury

continued: "You have got to trust the heads of the Departments, or get

new heads; it is quite impossible for the House of Commons to go into

all these technicalities, and I know no Department where the work is

more technical and more complicated than the Post Office. The Treasury

work is supposed to be hard to learn [by the Members of the House of

Commons working for promotion to the Ministry], but the technicalities

of the Post Office is about the most difficult job I ever had, and I

do not think a Select Committee would be really able to get to the

bottom of this matter. But, after all, we must recollect another

fact, and it is this: that the Civil Service is a great deal too much

inclined to attempt to put pressure upon Members of Parliament. That

is a very bad system, upon which we ought to put our foot. It is bad

enough when it is brought to bear upon the House as a whole, but what

would happen with a Select Committee of this House? You would have the

resentment of the Civil Service focussed and concentrated upon the

unfortunate Members of the Committee, and I do not think it would act

more independently or more impartially than those two bodies which have

sat already."

Mr. Steadman's Motion was lost by a vote of 159 to 91. Eighty-six

members of the Opposition and two Government supporters voted for the

Motion.[188]

* * * * *

[Sidenote: _Civil Servants have "Friends" in the Commons_]

On June 1, 1899, Mr. Steadman moved the reduction of the Postmaster

General's salary by $500, by way of asking the House of Commons

to instruct the Government to appoint a Select Committee of the

House of Commons to investigate the grievances of the Post Office

employees.[189] He said: "It stands to reason that a Departmental

Committee [Tweedmouth Committee] composed of officials, which contained

only one impartial member--a Member of the House of Lords--could not

be satisfactory to the 160,000 male and female employees in the Post

Office service.... Every department of the Post Office service now has

its organization. All these organizations right through the departments

have their coaches and organizers; true, they are not yet directly

represented here in this House, but they have friends here who are

prepared to take up their quarrels."

Captain Norton[190] seconded the Motion. He spoke of the fact that

any telegraphist could obtain $30 a year extra pay by making himself

competent to discharge the duties of a letter sorter, and another $30

by passing an examination on the technical questions of telegraphy.

He asserted that it was a grievance that the men had to acquire, in

their leisure hours, the additional proficiency in question; and that

only 46 per cent. of the men were able to pass the examinations on the

technical questions involved in telegraphy.

Mr. Maddison[191] supported Mr. Steadman's Motion with the words: "For

my part, I have always had some hesitation in taking up the cases of

men employed by the State, because undoubtedly there is a sort of

notion that, because they are employed by the State, they can make

such demands as they like, because they are paid out of a very full

Treasury. I know that every half penny of that money comes out of the

general taxation of the country, and I agree that we are here as the

guardians of the public purse. The Right Honorable Gentleman has never

denied that we are here as the guardians of these men's interest, and

it has not been shown that the public interest is of greater importance

than the interest of these men, who do so much for the prosperity of

the Country.... In this case we want a non-official committee, although

I confess that I do not think such an inquiry will put an end to

disputes in the future."

Mr. Hanbury, Financial Secretary to the Treasury, said that if the

Government yielded to the demand for a House of Commons Committee

in this case, there would be a House of Commons Committee sitting

practically every session of Parliament. The points now under

discussion had been under agitation for four, five, or six years.

Before the Tweedmouth Committee entered upon its duties, and before

the Norfolk-Hanbury Conference with Members of the House of Commons,

the Government had a distinct understanding with Members of the House

that the decisions come to should be accepted. Mr. Hanbury continued:

"It is somewhat difficult, no doubt, to draw a comparison between

what the Post Office pays and what is paid by private firms. But I

will give one comparison, at any rate, and I think it is the only one

possible. A few years ago we took over from the National Telephone

Company the employees, principally women, who were engaged on the

[long-distance] trunk wires, and I venture to say that, counting in

the pensions we pay, these people are receiving from 30 per cent. to

40 per cent. larger salaries than when they were in the employment of

the company. Honorable Members who draw comparisons between servants of

the State and others, are too apt to forget the great facilities Post

Office servants get, such as constant employment, large pensions, good

holidays, for which they are paid, and large sick-pay and sick-leave.

If these are added together, it will be found that the Post Office is

paying wages considerably above the level of those paid by outside

employers. I should like to say one further word with regard to this

application for a Committee of this House. Why should we have it at

all? Let me speak with perfect frankness about this thing. We have

already had two Committees; we have also had a great deal of pressure

brought to bear upon Members; that pressure is becoming almost

intolerable. The honorable Member for Newington posed as the just

judge and said: 'I am weary of all this agitation; let us try to put

an end to it.' Well I am not weary of the agitation; so long as I am

satisfied, as I am now, that everything has been done that ought to be

done for the men, I will not yield to agitation. I say at once that I

do myself believe that, considering everything, and that full inquiry

has already been held, the only advantage these men could derive

from a House of Commons Committee would be that the agitation and

pressure, now distributed over the whole House, would be focussed and

concentrated upon the Select Committee. I, for one, am not prepared to

grant a Committee of that kind."

Mr. Steadman's Motion was lost by a vote of 157 to 107; ninety-seven

members of the Opposition and nine Government supporters voting for the

Motion.[192]

* * * * *

[Sidenote: _Mr. Steadman's third demand for a Select Committee_]

On April 27, 1900, Mr. Steadman moved the reduction of the Postmaster

General's salary by $2,500.[193] He said: "I rise for the purpose of

advocating the claims of the 160,000 persons employed in the Post

Office for a fair and impartial Committee of Inquiry to be elected by

this House to look into their grievances."

The contention that there were grievances, Mr. Steadman supported

with the following arguments. From 1881 to 1891, the Civil Service

Commissioners, in issuing notices that they would hold competitive

examinations for intending entrants into the telegraph service, had

stated that in London telegraphists had "a prospect of obtaining

[ultimately] $950 a year." That, argued Mr. Steadman, was a contract

between the Government and the telegraphists who entered the London

service between 1881 and 1891, that every such telegraphist should

rise to $950. The Government therefore had committed a breach of

contract when, in 1892, it had announced that good character and good

skill as an operator would not secure a telegraphist promotion to the

senior class, in which the salary rose from $800 a year to $950. To be

eligible for promotion to the senior class, a man must be not only an

excellent telegraphist, but must, in addition, possess such executive

ability as would enable him to act as an overseer, or as assistant to

the Assistant Superintendent.

Mr. Steadman continued: "Now I come to the question of the postmen.

Goodness knows where all that $1,950,000 a year has gone to. You cannot

get away from the fact that the postman to-day in London commences

[at the age of 16 years to 18 years] with a minimum wage of $4.50 a

week.... Fancy that, Mr. Chairman, a man commencing on $4.50 a week,

and employed by the State in a Department that has a clean profit of

between $15,000,000 and $20,000,000." Mr. Steadman next contended that

a good conduct stripe--worth $13 a year--should be given every three

years; that the present period of five years was too long. Moreover,

the Department was altogether too rigorous in withholding good conduct

stripes for breaches of discipline. Mr. Steadman cited the following

instances to prove the necessity of an inquiry by Members of the House

of Commons into the discipline enforced by the Department. A man who

had served nine years as an auxiliary postman had been arrested on the

charge of stealing a postal money order. Though found not guilty by the

Court, he had been dismissed, without a certificate of good character.

Postman Taylor, of Stirling, after suffering an accident, was unable

to cover his route in the time fixed by the Post Office. Thereupon the

local postmaster had asked Taylor to retire on a pension. "The latest

information that I have in regard to that case is that the man who is

now doing Taylor's duties, in order to get through his round in the

time allotted, has his son to help him." Again, the annual increment

had been withheld from one Lacon, a telegraphist at Birmingham, and

the local Secretary of the Postal Telegraph Clerks' Association. The

Secretary to the Treasury, Mr. Hanbury, had told Mr. Steadman that the

Superintendent at Birmingham reported that Lacon's increment had been

withheld because Lacon had been insubordinate while on duty. Lacon

had told Mr. Steadman that he had been disciplined because of his

connection with the union. Mr. Steadman added: "I will not for one

moment attempt to stand up in the House and attack permanent officials

who are not able to defend themselves; it would be unmanly for me to do

so. But I do say that I have as much right to believe the statement of

Lacon, as the Right Honorable Gentleman [the Secretary to the Treasury]

has to believe the statement of the Birmingham Superintendent. There

is only one way of proving these cases, and that is for a Committee

of impartial Members of this House to be appointed before which the

permanent official can state his case and the men theirs. If that is

done, the Members, if their minds are unbiased, will very soon be able

to judge as to who is telling the truth."

[Sidenote: _Commons reminded of Civil Servants' votes_]

Sir Albert Rollit seconded Mr. Steadman's Motion, saying: "and we ought

not to overlook the fact, that, rightly or wrongly, these men now have

votes, and if they cannot obtain redress for their grievances here in

the House of Commons, they will try to obtain it from our masters, the

electorate."

Mr. R. W. Hanbury, Financial Secretary to the Treasury, and

representative in the House of Commons of the Postmaster General,

the Duke of Norfolk, "on principle" opposed the request for a Select

Committee. "Well, I say that the House of Commons is the last body

which ought to interfere in these questions of the payment of our

public servants. It is the last body which ought to be appealed to

as regularly as it is by civil servants to raise their salaries,

because that, after all, is the real object of this proposed committee.

Already I think the pressure brought to bear on individual Members,

and especially on Members who have a large number of civil servants

in their constituencies, has become perfectly intolerable, and civil

servants may depend upon it that it is the general opinion in this

House, although they may have their cause advocated by Members upon

whom they may be able to bring particular pressure, because large

numbers of them happen to live in the constituencies of those Members;

I repeat that they may depend upon it that in the opinion of the great

body of the Members of this House they are taking a highly irregular

course, and are in no way making their position more favorable in

the minds of the great majority of Members. Nothing will induce me

personally to agree to any committee such as has been suggested. And

while I object on principle, I object also because absolutely no

necessity has been shown for the committee.... The Duke of Norfolk and

I, because we were so desirous that no case of the slightest grievance

should be left untouched, inquired into every grievance which was

said to have been left unredressed by the Tweedmouth Committee....

Every Member of the House had a right to attend our [Norfolk-Hanbury

Committee] meetings, and to cross-examine the witnesses.... It is

the intention of the Post Office and of the Treasury to carry out

the recommendations of the Tweedmouth Committee to the very fullest

extent, and if the honorable Member [Mr. Steadman] is able to show me

any case whatever in which that has not been done, even in the case of

an individual postman, or sorter, or telegraphist, I will go into it

myself, and I will do more: I will promise that the grievance shall be

redressed."

Mr. Steadman's Motion was lost by a vote of 66 to 46. It was supported

by forty-one members of the Opposition and by four supporters of the

Government.[194]

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On June 7, 1901, while the House of Commons was in Committee of Supply,

Mr. Thomas Bayley[195] asked for a Select Committee of the House of

Commons to investigate the grievance of the Post Office servants.[196]

He said: "This House shows a want of moral courage by throwing the

responsibility for redressing the grievance of the Post Office servants

on the other House [Lord Tweedmouth] or the permanent officials of any

Department whatsoever." Mr. Bayley had begun his political career as a

Town Councillor in Nottingham.

[Sidenote: _The Prime Minister's Anxiety_]

After many Members had supported the request for a Select Committee,

the Prime Minister, Mr. A. J. Balfour, said: "I have listened

with great interest to this debate, and, I confess frankly, with

considerable anxiety as to the future of the public service if

pressure of the kind which has been put upon the Government to-night

is persisted in by this House. This House is omnipotent. It can make

and unmake Governments. It can decide what, when, and how public money

is to be spent. But with that omnipotence I would venture to urge upon

Members their great responsibility with a subject like this. Everyone

knows that a great organized body like the Post Office Service has in

its power to put great pressure upon Members, but I earnestly urge upon

honorable Gentlemen that unless we take our courage in both hands, and

say that, although most desirous that all legitimate grievances shall

be dealt with, we cannot permit the Government as a great employer of

labor to have this kind of pressure put upon it, I think the future of

the public service is in peril. I assure the committee that I speak

with a great sense of responsibility. In this very case the Post Office

employees have brought forward their grievances year after year. Two

Commissions have been appointed, and no one ever ventured to impugn

the ability or impartiality of the members of those Commissions. These

Commissions made the fullest examination into the case put before

them, and reported at length, and as a consequence of that report the

British taxpayers are now paying $2,500,000 more of money than they

paid before.... In none of the speeches has any specific complaint

been brought forward, or any point urged which suggests the necessity

for further inquiry, but only the statement that there is a feeling

of uneasiness, and a desire for further examination, and that when

such a desire is expressed, the House should listen to it. We cannot

keep the Civil Service in a sound and healthy condition if we are

going to examine into it by a committee every five years. If the House

of Commons were to yield to the very natural temptation of granting

a committee such as had been asked for, though we might escape an

inconvenient division, we should be unworthy, in my opinion, of bearing

any longer the great responsibility of being the enormous employer

of labor that we are. We should not be carrying out our duty to the

public, and, worst of all, we should aim a blow at the Civil Service,

which is the boast of this country and the envy of the civilized

world, because we should become the parliamentary creatures of every

organized body of public servants who chose to use the great power

which the Constitution gives, for ends which I am sure they believe to

be right, but which this House could not yield to in the manner now

suggested without derogating from the high functions and spirit of pure

impartiality which the House must maintain if Members are to do their

duty by their constituents."

Mr. Bayley's Motion was lost by a vote of 148 to 103; it being

supported by ninety-one members of the Opposition and nine Government

supporters.[197]

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[Sidenote: _Captain Norton demands a Select Committee_]

On April 18, 1902, while the House of Commons was in Committee of

Supply, Captain Norton[198] moved the reduction by $500 of the item:

Salaries and Working Expenses of the Post Office Telegraph Service:

$12,056,250.[199] He said: "The case briefly was this, that the

Government had been guilty of a distinct breach of faith in connection

with a certain number of worthy Government officials. He knew that

to make this statement of breach of faith was what must be called a

strong order, but he was prepared to prove that he was not exaggerating

in the smallest degree." He went on to state that the telegraphists

who entered the service in London in 1881 to 1891, when the Civil

Service Commissioners had advertised that entrants had "a prospect of

obtaining $950," had a contract with the Government that the possession

of "ordinary manipulative ability, with regular attendance and good

conduct" would insure advancement to a position paying $950. The

Government had broken that contract by prescribing, in 1892, that men

"must be equal to supervising duties" in order to be promoted to the

positions carrying $950.

Sir Albert Rollit[200] supported Captain Norton with the words: "For

a long time past there had been a very strong and general feeling in

the service that many of the men had been the victims of something

amounting almost to an imposition, however unintentional, on the part

of a public Department. Strong terms had been used in the course of the

debate, but he should endeavor to deal with the matter on the basis of

what he believed to have been a contract between those employees and

the Post Office. It was not difficult to show that that implied--or,

he might even say, express--contract had induced many to enter the

service, only to find that the contract was afterward departed from by

one of the contracting parties, the State."

Mr. Keir Hardie supported Captain Norton's Motion with the argument

that the concessions made by the Tweedmouth Committee had imposed no

additional burdens upon the taxpayers, for that committee merely had

allocated a small portion of the extra profit made by the Post Office

to the Post Office servants who made that profit. Mr. Keir Hardie at

one time has held the office of Chairman of the Independent Labor

Party,[201] an organization that brings to bear upon the British

municipal governments a pressure similar to that here shown to be

brought upon the House of Commons.

[Sidenote: _Members of Parliament coerced_]

Mr. Gibson Bowles said: "He was aware that many honorable Members who

brought forward the position of servants of the State, did so against

their own desires, because of the almost irresistible pressure placed

upon them by the servants of the State, who were at the same time

electors.... He supported the Secretary to the Treasury in resisting

this particular amendment, because it was one of many which tended to

illustrate a form of tyranny that was becoming unbearable, and which

tended seriously to injure the character of this House as making its

Members the advocates of classes, sections, and little communities,

instead of being trustees not for them alone, but for the whole

community."

Mr. Austen Chamberlain, Financial Secretary to the Treasury, and

representative in the House of Commons of the Postmaster General, the

Marquis of Londonderry, said he "supposed it would not be unfair to say

that an officer joining the British Army had a prospect of becoming

a field marshal." As to the telegraphists, "all that the Government

ever had held out to them was a prospect of a certain number of them

attaining something beyond the ordinary maximum" of $800, to which any

man could rise by the display of ordinary manipulative ability and the

observance of good conduct. Under Mr. Fawcett, in 1881 to 1884, one

telegraphist out of every 6.3 telegraphists had risen beyond $800. In

1890 the proportion in question had been exactly the same. In 1902, the

proportion was one in six, or, "practically the same."

Mr. Austen Chamberlain continued: "When I consider the great

concessions that were made [by the Tweedmouth Committee], and the great

burden that was placed upon the taxpayers, the care that was given to

that inquiry, and the opportunity that was afforded to every one to

have their grievances heard, I cannot pretend to think that a case has

been made out for trying, not fresh matters, but for retrying the same

matters and changing the tribunal, merely because all its decisions

[_i. e._, some of its decisions] were not agreeable to one of the

parties concerned. I hope the House will not do anything so fatal to

the efficiency and the organization of our Civil Service, as to allow

any large body of civil servants to think that they have only to be

importunate enough to secure in this House repeated inquiries into

their grievances, no matter what previous care has been given to their

consideration. I trust this House will have confidence in the desire

of the Postmaster General to deal fairly with all his employees, and

believe me when I say that there is nothing easier for us to do than to

give way; and that it is only because we believe it to be our duty to

the taxpayers that we find it necessary to refuse these recurring and

increasing demands."

Captain Norton's Motion was lost by a vote of 164 to 134. It was

supported by one hundred and twenty-three Opposition members, and by

seven Government supporters.[202]

A few hours later, Mr. Thomas Bayley[203] moved a reduction of $500 on

the salary of the Postmaster General, in order to call attention to

the grievances of the officials of the Post Office.[204] He said there

should be a Court of Appeal for the civil servants, and that Court

should be the House of Commons alone; whenever a dispute arose between

the Government of the day and its servants, the House should constitute

itself the Court of Appeal. Mr. Bayley added: "It had been distinctly

laid down that it was no part of the duty of the Post Office to make

a profit, but it should be worked for the future convenience of the

public and not reduced to the level of a mere profit making machine. It

was this desire on the part of the Post Office officials to make profit

which lay at the root of all the troubles which the House had been

discussing in the debate that evening."

Mr. Austen Chamberlain, Financial Secretary to the Treasury, and

representative, in the House of Commons, of the Postmaster General,

replied: "I refuse to resign one particle of my responsibility, or

to accept the suggestion that the Government should wash their hands

of their responsibility, and throw the subject, as an open question,

before the House of Commons, and ask a Committee of this House,

without aid or guidance from responsible Ministers, to judge upon

the multitude of conflicting interests and details incident to the

administration of so great a service as the Post Office. I, for one,

will not be party to putting off that responsibility on to the House

of Commons.... But we consider that it would be a grave dereliction

of duty on our part to throw this great service into the turmoil and

confusion of a Parliamentary inquiry, with the knowledge that such an

inquiry would not be final--honorable Gentlemen who have supported this

Amendment have declared that to talk about finality in this matter

is absurd--with the knowledge that what is done to-day for the Post

Office, must be done to-morrow for every other Department employing a

large number of Government servants, until elections to this House

will depend more and more on the willingness of Members to purchase

the support of those who are in public employment by promises of

concessions at the public expense, instead of securing their support,

like that of other citizens, on public grounds and national interests."

* * * * *

[Sidenote: _The Government's Compromise_]

On April 30, 1903, while the House was in Committee of Supply, Mr.

Austen Chamberlain, Postmaster General, prefaced the discussion

by the Committee of the Post Office Vote, with the following

statement:[205].... "The demand is that a Select Committee of this

House should be appointed to examine into the grievances of the Post

Office staff. I have made it my business since I have been at the post

office to see that every memorial from the staff dealing with their

grievances, addressed to me, should come before me personally....

Even though I have felt that many of the matters thus brought to my

notice were very small details of administration. I am determined

that an official [employee] of the Post Office, going to the head of

his service, should receive as fair and careful consideration of his

appeal, if he applies to me direct, as if he sought Parliamentary

influence to urge his claim. And I venture to think that nothing has

occurred during the time that I have been responsible which can

justify any servant of the Post Office in saying that he is unable,

except by Parliamentary influence, or by Parliamentary exposure, to

obtain the attention of the head of the Department. The other day at

the request of several Members on both sides of the House, I met the

Members themselves, and consented that if they wished, they should

be accompanied by members of the Post Office Staff, who should make

before them, and in my presence, a statement of the grounds on which

they asked for this inquiry by a Select Committee, in order that then

and there I might discuss it with my honorable friends. The Vote comes

on to-night, and I intend to take this opportunity of making a few

observations on the grounds for this Parliamentary inquiry as put forth

by the Staff. There are three main grounds alleged by the spokesman

for the staff for a Parliamentary inquiry--wages, sanitation [_i.

e._, the sanitary condition of certain offices], and meal reliefs, or

the time allowed out of working hours for taking refreshment. If a

person does eight hours' continuous work he is allowed half an hour

out of that time for a meal, reducing his actual working hours to

seven and a half hours.... I only wish to draw the attention of the

committee to what was described to me as a typical grievance by the

spokesman of a deputation which waited on me shortly before Christmas.

Certain men are on duty from 10 a. m. to 2 p. m., and from 4 p. m.

to 8 p. m., and complain because they are not allowed 20 minutes for

tea. In the judgment of any impartial person, was that a reasonable

grievance?... I myself have come to the conclusion, ... that while a

great number of the complaints made have no foundation in justice, and

that a great number of the men who think themselves aggrieved would

find it difficult to get, elsewhere than in the public service, such

good employment as they have now, there are other cases which are

open to improvement and for which further inquiry is needed to fix

exactly what should be done. The Government is unalterably opposed

to a Select Committee of the House of Commons for the decision of

this question. Honorable Members know, and it is no use blinking it,

the kind of pressure which is brought to bear, or is attempted to be

brought to bear, upon Members in all parts of the House by the public

servants, servants of the Post Office, I am afraid, especially, though

not entirely [exclusively], at election times. I have had Members come

to me, not from one side of the House alone, to seek from me, in my

position as Postmaster General, protection for them in the discharge

of their public duties against the pressure sought to be put upon them

by the employees of the Post Office. Even if the machinery by which

our Select Committees are appointed were such as would enable us to

secure a Select Committee composed of thoroughly impartial men who had

committed themselves by no expression of opinion, I still think that it

would not be fair to pick out fifteen Members of this House and make

them marked men for the purposes of such pressure as is now distributed

more or less over the whole Assembly. But if I am opposed to the

appointment of a House of Commons Committee for fixing wages in the

Post Office, I am still more opposed to thrusting upon it, or, indeed,

on any Committee, the duty of regulating in all its details the daily

administration and work of the Post Office. The wages paid are not

in all respects satisfactory, some are too low, others are too high.

Advice from men of practical and business experience would help me, the

Minister in this matter. Therefore, I propose to take such advice--of

men as free from any kind of political and electoral pressure, as they

should be free from any departmental influence. I should suggest a body

of five to report for my advice and information on the wages paid in

the Post Office Department to the four great classes of employees, the

letter sorters and the telegraphists in London, and the letter sorters

and the telegraphists in the provinces."

After reiterating that he proposed to get the advice of business men

only on the question of the scale of wages paid in the Post Office

Department, and that he in no way proposed to surrender to any

Committee of any sort the general duties of the Postmaster General,

Mr. Austen Chamberlain closed with the words: "I ask the Committee [of

Supply] to give me all the confidence it can, and when it is unable to

give me that confidence, I say that that is no reason for granting a

Select Committee to do my work, but only a reason for transferring the

office of Postmaster General to someone who is more competent."

Mr. Thomas Bayley replied that "he was not willing to give up the

rights and privileges of the House of Commons, whose duty it was

to remedy the grievances of the public service.... And although he

had been assured by those whom he represented [_i. e._, post office

servants] that the Post Office officials would loyally abide by the

decision of a Committee of the House of Commons, the Right Honorable

Gentleman [the Postmaster General] could not expect the same loyalty

with regard to the decision of the Committee he proposed to appoint."

Sir Albert Rollit said: "The Tweedmouth Committee was a one-sided

tribunal; the officials were represented on it, but the men not at

all...."

Captain Norton replied: "The Right Honorable Gentleman had also

referred to the question of Members on both sides of the House coming

to him for protection. That was very startling, because the reason

they were there at all was that they might represent every section of

their constituents,[206] ... but presuming the Post Office servants

were organized, he submitted they were within their rights to appeal

to their Members.... If the postal officials were such terrible tyrants

he hoped they would take note that they could never hope for fair

play from the present Government. The Right Honorable Gentleman had

appointed a packed jury of five individuals to deal with a fraction of

the question.... In other words, he was going to take shelter behind

this bogus committee.... He was going to appoint five Members, possibly

sweaters, to determine the rate of wages.... It would be astounding if

the postal officials accepted any such bogus arbitration. If it was

to be a Board of Arbitration, why should not they have five postal

servants added to the five employers of labor?" Captain Norton is a

Junior Lord of the Treasury in the present Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman

Ministry.

* * * * *

On May 17, 1903, the National Joint Committee of the Postal Association

unanimously resolved: "That this National Joint Committee views

with extreme dissatisfaction the appointment of a Court of Inquiry

which is not composed of members of Parliament, but is an altogether

irresponsible body, and protests against the scope of the inquiry

being limited to a single grievance and to a minority of the Staff. It

pledges itself to continue to use every legitimate endeavor to obtain

an impartial Parliamentary Committee of Inquiry into the causes of

discontent in the postal and telegraph service."[207]

In August, 1903, the Postmaster General appointed a "Committee to

inquire into the adequacy of the wages paid to certain classes of the

postal servants." The Committee consisted of: Sir Edward Bradford,

until lately Chief Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police; Mr. Charles

Booth, a Liverpool Merchant, and the author of "The Life and Labor of

the People in London;" Mr. Samuel Fay, General Manager of the Great

Central Railway; Mr. Thomas Brodrick, Secretary of the Co-operative

Wholesale Society, Manchester; and Mr. R. Burbridge, Managing Director

of Harrod's Stores.[208]

FOOTNOTES:

[182] _Who's Who_, 1903, Woods, Sam'l., M. P. for S. W. Lancashire,

1892 to 1895; M. P. (R.) for Walthamstow, Essex, 1897 to 1900;

President of Lancashire Miners' Federation; Vice-President of Miners'

Federation of Great Britain; Secretary of Trade Union Congress since

1894.

[183] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, February 18, 1898, p. 1,107

and following.

[184] Compare also _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, April 22,

1874, p. 958 and following, and June 1, 1874, p. 797 and following.

_Parliamentary Papers_, 1874, vol. IV: A Bill to Relieve Revenue

Officers from remaining Electoral Disabilities; and 37 and 38 Victoriæ,

c. 22: An Act to Relieve Revenue Officers from remaining Electoral

Disabilities.

[185] Ayes Noes

Conservatives } Government 2 132

Liberal Unionists } Supporters 1 27

Liberals } The 48 3

Nationalists } Opposition 32 0

Various factions 3 1

-- ---

86 163

[186] _Who's Who_, 1903, Steadman, W. C., M. P. (R.) Stepney, Tower

Hamlets, 1898 to 1900--returned by a majority of twenty, defeated 1900;

stood for Parliament, Mid-Kent, defeated, 1892; Hammersmith, defeated,

1895. Is Secretary Barge Builders' Trade Union.

[187] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, February 20, 1899; p. 1,523

and following.

[188] Ayes Noes

Conservatives } Government 1 129

Liberal Unionists } Supporters 1 28

Liberals } The 67 2

Nationalists } Opposition 19 0

Various factions 3 0

-- ---

91 159

[189] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, June 1, 1899, p. 99 and

following.

[190] _Who's Who_, 1903, Norton, C. W., M. P. (L.) W. Newington,

London, since 1892. Late Captain 5th Royal Irish Lancers, ... some

years in India; selected to report upon Italian Cavalry, 1880;

Brigade-Major of Cavalry, Aldershot, 1881-82. In 1906 Captain Norton

was made a Junior Lord of the Treasury in the Campbell-Bannerman

Liberal Government.

[191] _Who's Who_, 1903, Maddison, F., M. P., Sheffield, Brightside

Division, 1897 to 1900. Three years Chairman of the Hull Branch of

Typographical Association; first Labor Member of the Hull Corporation;

offered post of Labor Correspondent to the Board of Trade in 1893;

Editor of the _Railway Review_, official organ of the Amalgamated

Society of Railway Servants (resigned, 1897); Ex-President of the Labor

Association for Promoting Co-operative Production.

[192] Ayes Noes

Conservatives } Government 5 133

Liberal Unionists } Supporters 4 21

Liberals } The 83 2

Nationalists } Opposition 14 0

Various factions 1 1

--- ---

107 157

[193] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, April 27, 1900, p. 199 and

following.

[194] Ayes Noes

Conservatives } Government 4 55

Liberal Unionists } Supporters 0 9

Liberals } The 40 0

Nationalists } Opposition 1 0

Various factions 1 2

--- ---

46 66

[195] _Who's Who_, 1903, Bayley, Thos., J. P., M. P. (L) Chesterfield

Division, Derbyshire, since 1892. Many years on Nottingham Town

Council; Alderman, Nottingham County Council; contested Barkston Ash

Division of Yorkshire, 1885; Chesterfield, 1886.

[196] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, June 7, 1901, p. 1,358 and

following.

[197] Ayes Noes

Conservatives } Government 8 120

Liberal Unionists } Supporters 1 25

Liberals } The 57 0

Nationalists } Opposition 34 0

Various factions 3 3

--- ---

103 148

[198] _Who's Who_, 1905, Norton, C. W., M. P. (L.) West Newington

(London), since 1892; late Captain 5th Royal Irish Lancers; selected to

report upon Italian Cavalry, 1880; Brigade-Major of Cavalry, Aldershot,

1881-82. In 1906 Captain Norton was made a Junior Lord of the Treasury

in the Campbell-Bannerman Liberal Government.

[199] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, April 18, 1902, p. 660 and

following.

[200] _Who's Who_, 1904. Rollit, Sir Albert Kaye, J. P., LL. D., D.

C. L., D. L., M. P., Islington, since 1886. Partner in Bailey and

Leetham, steamship owners; Director of National Telephone Co.; Mayor

of Hull 1883 to 1885; President of Associated Chambers of Commerce of

the United Kingdom, 1890 to 1896; President London Chambers of Commerce

1893 to 1898; Chairman Inspection Committee, Trustee Savings Bank since

1890; President Municipal Corporations' Association.

[201] _Who's Who_, 1905.

[202] Ayes Noes

Conservatives } Government 6 127

Liberal Unionists } Supporters 1 31

Liberals } The 72 4

Nationalists } Opposition 51 0

Various factions 4 2

--- ---

134 164

[203] _Who's Who_, 1905, Bayley, Thos., J. P., M. P. (L.), Chesterfield

Division Derbyshire since 1892; many years on Nottingham Town Council.

[204] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, April 18, 1902, p. 706 and

following.

[205] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, April 30, 1903, p. 1,015 and

following, and May 11, p. 313 and following.

[206] According to _The Times_, May 11, 1903, Captain Norton said: "The

Right Honorable Gentleman had told a startling story of how Members on

both sides of the House had appealed to him to protect them from the

postal servants. Members of the House represented all sections in their

constituencies and surely postal servants as voters had the right to

approach their representatives, and apply the same kind of pressure

that other organized bodies applied."

[207] _The Times_, May 18, 1903.

[208] _The Times_, August 14, 1903.

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