SECTION 1. _Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of

[Illustration: _Very truly Yours Charles N. Fowler_]

SEVENTEEN TALKS

ON THE

BANKING QUESTION

BETWEEN

UNCLE SAM

AND

MR. FARMER, MR. BANKER,

MR. LAWYER, MR. LABORINGMAN,

MR. MERCHANT, MR. MANUFACTURER

BY

Hon. Charles N. Fowler

WHO WAS A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

FOR SIXTEEN YEARS, A MEMBER OF THE

BANKING AND CURRENCY COMMITTEE FOR

FOURTEEN YEARS AND CHAIRMAN

OF THE COMMITTEE FOR

EIGHT YEARS

PUBLISHED BY THE

FINANCIAL REFORM PUBLISHING CO.

ELIZABETH, NEW JERSEY

Copyright, 1913, by

FINANCIAL REFORM PUBLISHING CO.

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THE TROW PRESS

NEW YORK

FOREWORD

This book is written in the form of a conversation between Uncle Sam

and six men of various occupations. It begins with the A, B, C of the

subject and by question and answer goes over all the different phases

of the subject precisely as you would expect them to arise under such

circumstances. After weeks of study and investigation they finally

reach an agreement, based upon their talks, and formulate a Financial

and Banking system for the United States.

The Author.

TABLE OF CONTENTS

PAGE

FIRST NIGHT. The Standard of Value 7

SECOND NIGHT. What Is Money? 26

THIRD NIGHT. What Is Currency? 46

FOURTH NIGHT. Bank Credit Currency 62

FIFTH NIGHT. What Is Exchange? 84

SIXTH NIGHT. Value, Price, Wealth, Property, Credit 101

SEVENTH NIGHT. Commercial Credit, Land Credit,

Government Credit 118

EIGHTH NIGHT. Colonial Credit Money 144

NINTH NIGHT. United States Notes or Greenbacks 173

TENTH NIGHT. Reserves 195

ELEVENTH NIGHT. The Bank 224

TWELFTH NIGHT. Land Credit Bank 248

THIRTEENTH NIGHT. The Clearing House 289

FOURTEENTH NIGHT. Banking in 1860 340

FIFTEENTH NIGHT. Outline of Bill 368

SIXTEENTH NIGHT. Draft of Bill 405

SEVENTEENTH NIGHT. Aldrich Plan and Plot Exposed 459

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FIRST NIGHT

THE STANDARD OF VALUE

UNCLE SAM: Gentlemen, I have invited you to take part in one

conversation a week upon the much-vexed and all-important question

of a financial and banking system for my country. We shall continue

these conversations until we arrive at some conclusion which will be

satisfactory to all of us, although this may seem difficult at the

outset.

To begin with, I want to assure you that our talks shall be absolutely

confidential, and nothing that is said at these meetings shall ever

go any farther, unless we agree to announce our conclusion. With this

understanding we can be brutally frank with each other, and I can

expose my hand to you.

The present situation is one demanding immediate attention, and only

our ignorance, greed or political cowardice can prevent us from

arriving at a satisfactory solution of this problem. We must be sincere

and patriotic in our purpose, for we represent practically every

phase of our citizenship, and I assume you are typical of the average

intelligence of the people.

Here is Mr. Lawyer to steer us clear of legal obstacles, Mr.

Laboringman to speak for our millions of daily toilers, Mr. Farmer

to point out the disadvantage of agricultural loans, Mr. Merchant

to illustrate the defects of our present commercial credits, Mr.

Manufacturer to caution us against the conversion of our liquid capital

into fixed investments and Mr. Banker to tell us of his woes and

enlighten us upon the remedies for all his ills.

What we don't know now, we will each attempt to find out before

our talks come to an end. Certainly there is some solution to this

question. In short and in fact it must be solved.

I am the laughing stock of the entire civilized world today. For

our persistent folly we suffer losses in the aggregate amounting to

hundreds of millions of dollars every year. We ought to have, and can

have the best and the most efficient banking system in the world.

Indeed, we ought to give the laugh to all the other countries in

banking, as we do practically in everything else. It is up to us.

MR. BANKER: Uncle Sam, I agree absolutely with what you have just

said. I believe it is our duty to sit every week, as you suggest,

continuously until we arrive at some conclusion upon which we can all

agree. If we do this I believe, since we represent so many callings and

are so representative of the various lines of business, we shall find

the public approving of our conclusion.

I suggest that we begin with the very A, B, C of this question, and

settle one point after another as we go along. If we do this, our

differences will disappear as we progress, and the X, Y, Z of this

question, or the formation of a financial and banking system, will be

comparatively easy in the end.

For example, we must first fix clearly in our minds what a standard

of value is, and what our standard of value is, what money is, what

currency is, what capital is, what a bank is, and so continue step by

step to the end, leaving absolutely nothing for guesswork, if that is

at all possible.

The experience of the world has been so broad and complete that our

solution of this question is entirely possible, although we have some

problems that are peculiar to ourselves.

MR. LAWYER: That plan suits me exactly, for only recently I made

a thorough study of the question of our standard of value. My

investigation took me back more than 6,000 years, and I found the

subject amusing often as well as intensely interesting, while the

result of my research was most satisfactory.

I discovered that everything from baked clay to the credit of

practically every government that has ever existed had been used at

some time or other, as a standard of value, or a measure of value.

MR. FARMER: Mr. Lawyer, just what do you mean by a "standard of value"?

MR. LAWYER: A "standard of value" is anything that may be selected

by which all other things in some particular locality or country are

measured.

The Indians of British Columbia used haiquai shells; one string being

equal to one beaver skin. In Australia tough green stone and red ochre

were used. In Central Africa slaves were used. In Iceland the law made

cattle the standard of value. In the Fiji Islands whales' teeth. In the

South Sea Islands red feathers were used. In Mexico and Abyssinia salt

was used.

Agriculture has produced its standard of value; corn, maize, olive oil,

cocoanuts, cocoa-nut oil, tea, tobacco, cacao, beans, wheat, rice.

The pastoral life produced its standard of value; sheep, cattle, goats,

horses and practically every other domestic animal, according to the

time and place.

The following history of American experience in the development of

a standard of value cannot be better restated, and is practically a

repetition of the experience of mankind in all the ages, therefore I

want to read what Horace White says upon the subject:

"It may be said that Virginia grew her own money for nearly two

centuries, and Maryland for a century and a half.

"The first settlers of New England found wampumpeage, sometimes called

wampum and sometimes peage, in use among the aborigines as an article

of adornment and a medium of exchange. It consisted of beads made from

the inner whorls of certain shells found in sea water. The beads were

polished and strung together in belts or sashes.

"They were two colors, black and white, the black being double the

value of the white. The early settlers of New England, finding that

the fur trade with the Indians could be carried on with wampum, easily

fell into the habit of using it as money. It was practically redeemable

in beaver skins, which were in constant demand in Europe. The unit of

wampum money was the fathom, consisting of 360 white beads worth sixty

pence the fathom. In 1648 Connecticut decreed that wampum should be

'strung suitably and not small and great uncomely and disorderly mixt

as formerly it hath been.' Four white beads passed as the equivalent

of a penny in Connecticut, although six were usually required in

Massachusetts and sometimes eight. In the latter colony wampum was at

first made legally receivable for debts to the amount of 12d. only. In

1641 the limit was raised to fifty pounds sterling, but only for two

years. It was then reduced to forty shillings. It was not receivable

for taxes in Massachusetts. The use of wampum money extended southward

as far as Virginia.

"The decline of the beaver trade brought wampum money into disrepute.

When it ceased to be exchangeable in large sums for an article of

international trade the basis of its value was gone. Moreover it was

extensively counterfeited, and the white beads were turned into the

more valuable black ones by dyeing. Nevertheless it lingered in the

currency of the colonies as small change till the early years of the

eighteenth century. While it was in use it fluctuated greatly in value.

"The first General Assembly of Virginia met at Jamestown July 31, 1619,

and the first law passed was one fixing the price of tobacco 'at three

shillings the beste, and the second sorte at 18d. the pounde.' Tobacco

was already the local currency. In 1642 an act was passed forbidding

the making of contracts payable in money, thus virtually making tobacco

the sole currency.

"The Act of 1642 was repealed in 1656, but nearly all the trading

in the Province continued to be done with tobacco as the medium of

exchange.

"In 1628 the price of tobacco in silver had been 3s. 6d. per pound

in Virginia. The cultivation increased so rapidly that in 1631 the

price had fallen to 6d. In order to raise the price, steps were taken

to restrict the amount grown and to improve the quality. The right to

cultivate tobacco was restricted to 1,500 polls. Carpenters and other

mechanics were not allowed to plant tobacco 'or do any other work in

the ground.' These measures were ineffective. The price continued to

fall. In 1639 it was only 3d. It was now enacted that half of the

good and all of the bad should be destroyed, and that thereafter all

creditors should accept 40 lbs. for 100; that the crop of 1640 should

not be sold for less than 12d., nor that in 1641 for less than 2s.

per lb., under penalty of forfeiture of the whole crop. This law

was ineffectual, as the previous ones had been, but it caused much

injustice between debtors and creditors by impairing the obligation of

existing contracts. In 1645 tobacco was worth only 1-1/2d. and in 1665

only 1d. per lb.

"These events teach us that a commodity which is liable to great and

sudden changes of supply is not a desirable one to be used as money.

"In the year 1666 a treaty was negotiated between the colonies of

Maryland, Virginia, and Carolina, to stop planting tobacco for one year

in order to raise the price. This temporary suspension of planting made

necessary some other mode of paying debts. It was accordingly enacted

that both public dues and private debts falling due 'in the vacant year

from planting' might be paid in country produce at specified rates.

"In 1683 an extraordinary series of occurrences grew out of the low

price of tobacco. Many people signed petitions for a cessation of

planting for one year for the purpose of increasing the price. As the

request was not granted, they banded themselves together and went

through the country destroying tobacco plants wherever found. The evil

reached such proportions that in April, 1684, the Assembly passed a

law declaring that these malefactors had passed beyond the bounds of

right, and that their aim was the subversion of the Government. It was

enacted that if any persons, to the number of eight or more, should go

about destroying tobacco plants, they should be adjudged traitors and

suffer death.

"In 1727 tobacco notes were legalized. These were in the nature of

certificates of deposit in Government warehouses issued by official

inspectors. They were declared by law current and payable for all

tobacco debts within the warehouse district where they were issued.

They supply an early example of the distinction between money on the

one hand, and Government notes, or Bank notes, on the other. The

tobacco in the warehouses was a real medium of exchange. The tobacco

notes were always payable to bearer for the delivery of this money.

They were redeemable in tobacco of a particular grade, but not in any

specified lots. Counterfeiting the notes was made a felony. In 1734

another variety of currency, called 'crop notes,' was introduced. These

were issued for particular casks of tobacco, each cask being branded

and the marks specified on the notes.

"The circulating medium of the New England colonies was quite as

fantastic as that of Virginia. Merchantable beaver was legally

receivable for debts at 10s. per pound. In 1631 the General Court of

Massachusetts ordered that corn should pass for payment of all debts

at the price it was usually sold for, unless money or beaver skins

were expressly stipulated. In other words, a debt payable in pounds,

shillings, and pence might be paid at the debtor's option in any one of

three ways; in corn at the market price, in beaver at 10s. per pound,

or in the metallic money of England. For more than half a century this

order continued in force and operation, other things being added to the

list from time to time.

"In 1635 musket balls were made receivable to the extent of 12d. in one

payment.

"In 1640 Indian corn was made current at 4s. per bushel, wheat at 6s.,

rye and barley at 5s., and peas at 6s. Dried fish was added to the

list. Taxes might be paid in these articles and also in cattle, the

latter to be appraised.

"The need of metallic currency was severely felt. In 1654 it was

ordered that no coin should be exported, except 20s. to pay each one's

traveling expenses, on penalty of forfeiture of the offender's whole

estate.

"The cost of carrying the country produce taken for taxes amounted to

10 per cent of the collections. A constable once collected 130 bushels

of peas as taxes in Springfield. He found that he could transport this

portion of the public revenue most cheaply by boat. Launching it on the

Connecticut River, he shipped so much water on board at the falls that

the peas were spoiled. Thus we learn that money ought to be easy of

carriage and not liable to injury by exposure to the elements.

"In 1670 it was ordered for the first time that contracts made in

silver should be paid in silver.

"In 1675, during King Philip's war, the need of metallic money for

public use was so great that a deduction of 50 per cent was offered on

all taxes so paid.

"The first local currency of New Netherlands was wampum, but it was

subordinate to the silver coinage of the mother country; that is,

it was reckoned in terms of that coinage as fixed by the Dutch West

India Company from time to time. It was fixed at six white beads for

a stiver. Wampum was not made in the province, but was imported from

the east end of Long Island, the principal seat of production. It is

mentioned in a letter from the Patroons of New Netherlands to the

States General in June, 1634, as 'being in a manner the currency of the

country with which the produce of the country is paid for,' the produce

of the country being furs.

"Beaver soon became current here, as in New England, and for the same

reason, its currency value being fixed by the company at 8 florins

per skin. As 5 wampum beads were equal to 1 stiver and 20 stivers to

1 florin, and 8 florins to 1 skin, the ratio of wampum to beaver was

960 to 1. The market ratio did not coincide with the legal ratio very

long. Nor was the legal ratio of either wampum or beaver to silver

maintained; for, in 1656, Director Stuyvesant wrote to the company

urging that beaver be rated at 6 florins instead of 8, and wampum at 8

for a stiver instead of 6, as these rates were nearer the commercial

values.

"In 1719 the Assembly of South Carolina made rice receivable for taxes,

'to be delivered in good barrels upon the bay in Charlestown.' In

the following year a tax of 1,200,000 pounds of rice was levied, and

commissioners were appointed to issue rice orders to public creditors,

in anticipation of collection, at the rate of 30s. per 100 lb., in the

following form:

"'This order entitles the bearer to one hundred weight of well-cleaned

merchantable rice to be paid to the commissioners that receive the tax

on the second Tuesday in March, 1723.'

"Rice orders were made receivable for all purposes, and counterfeiting

was made felony without benefit of clergy.

"In eastern Tennessee and Kentucky, early in the nineteenth century,

deer skins and raccoon skins were receivable for taxes and served the

purposes of currency.

"When California was first invaded by gold seekers there were a few

Mexican coins in circulation there, not nearly sufficient to answer

the needs of the growing community. The immigrants brought more or

less metallic money with them. The smaller coins were those of many

different countries, chiefly Spanish. For want of sufficient coins, the

first trading was done largely with gold dust, sometimes by weighing

it in scales, sometimes by guesswork. A 'pinch' of gold dust about as

large as a pinch of snuff had a current value and was a common measure

in places where there was no means of weighing. At a public meeting

in San Francisco, September 9, 1848, it was resolved by unanimous

vote that $16 per ounce was a fair price for placer gold. This rate

was at once adopted in all business transactions. By and by private

coiners of gold came into the field. The Legislature was at first

alarmed by the appearance of these unaccustomed pieces, and passed a

law to prohibit circulation and to close the shops where they were

made. It was soon found, however, that they were a great convenience.

Then the law was repealed. Several establishments immediately went

to work assaying and coining gold. One of these was at Salt Lake

City, whose productions were known as Mormon coins. Only one of these

establishments, that of Moffat & Co., of San Francisco, conformed

exactly to the government standard of weight and fineness. All the

others, however, including the Mormon ones, circulated freely, and were

received on deposit by the banking houses until the government set up

an assay office and began to stamp octagonal pieces of $50, called

'slugs,' and afterwards those of $20 each. This was done in 1851; the

San Francisco mint was not ready till 1854. The Moffat coins continued

to circulate after the mint had gone into operation, since everybody

had confidence in their goodness. It is estimated that $50,000,000 of

private coins were struck. They were received in the Atlantic cities at

their assay value only."

The foregoing illustrations drawn from our own history serve to explain

the nature of money and the processes by which mankind learns to

distinguish between good money and bad.

MR. FARMER: In all that has been said there is nothing stranger nor

more interesting than what is going on today.

Uap is one of the most interesting of the South Sea Islands. It is the

Western outpost of the Carolines, which were purchased by Germany from

Spain for $3,300,000 at the close of the Spanish-American War. The

form of money used by the people and the perfection of the system of

currency is as interesting as anything in the history of the human race.

The small change consists of pieces of pearl shell and small round

stones. Large sums are represented by fei. These are big circular

stones in the form of wheels ranging in diameter from one to twelve

feet. In the centre of each is a hole through which a pole is thrust to

facilitate carriage from one spot to another.

These coins are not minted on the island, nor has any addition been

made to the supply of them for a number of years. They were originally

fashioned in the Pelao Islands, and brought thence to Uap in canoes

over a stretch of four hundred miles of ocean. A very large fei could

not be changed into smaller coin without seriously disturbing the

currency of the island. The owner of one of these twelve-foot masses of

wealth is a sort of J.P. Morgan. Like the man with the million dollar

bill in Mark Twain's story, he does not need to break his money in

order to pay for anything he may buy, but readily secures all that he

desires on credit.

It speaks volumes for the honesty of the islanders that all this stone

money is left out of doors standing against the sides of the huts. The

annals of Uap do not contain a single record of the theft of a fei,

but perhaps the difficulty of disposing of such unwieldy cash may be

a potent factor in the matter. Not only is the ownership of a large

fei equivalent to the command of an unlimited amount of currency, but

abstract possession seems to entail the same advantage.

Many years ago a canoe carrying one of these large stones was sunk a

few miles off the island. Although the fei went to the bottom of the

ocean and has lain there ever since, the man to whom it was consigned

enjoyed all the advantages that would have accrued from its delivery to

him. During his lifetime he was accredited one of the wealthiest men of

Uap. Not only that, but he bequeathed his interest in the submerged fei

to his son, and it has been passed on in like manner through four or

five generations, securing all the advantages of substantial wealth to

each.

MR. LAWYER: Metal of some kind has been used as far back as the records

of time go, and strange as it may seem, gold was the first metal to be

used as well as the first to be discovered, as a standard of value, or

measure of value. Iron was used in Sparta, spikes in Central Africa,

nails in Scotland, lead in Burmah, copper, tin and silver in Rome.

Silver and gold were used in China a thousand years ago. In her palmy

days gold bracelets and rings were weighed out in Egypt, measuring

value.

For the past two hundred years there has been a distinct evolution of

the world's present standard of value going on, sometimes it has been

gold, sometimes it has been silver, sometimes nations have tried to

have both. During the last hundred years the struggle to use both has

gone on persistently until within the last twenty-five or thirty years.

William A. Shaw states that in France during a period of one hundred

years, the ratio between gold and silver had been changed one hundred

and fifty times. The controversy of this period has well been called

the "Battle of the Standards."

A constantly increasing trade between the nations of the earth has

made a common standard of value more and more important, while the

ever-increasing refinement in the exchange of commodities among the

peoples of the earth has made a single standard absolutely essential.

Experience has wrought the change, and now the entire commercial world

has gold as its standard of value.

It is interesting to observe how gold because of its peculiar fitness,

as compared with any other commodity, was finally selected and adopted

as the world's standard of value.

If we were to study for months for the purpose of ascertaining what the

characteristics of the world's standard of value should be, we would

define the characteristics of gold as particularly distinguished from

any other metal or thing.

_First_: Gold has by far a greater stability of value than any other

substance. It is very doubtful whether there is a perceptible change,

at least any such change of value, as could be agreed upon. It is so

small.

_Second_: Gold has portability, or the facility of transportation from

one part of the country to the other, or from one nation to the other,

that makes it desirable as compared with any other metal, that is to

be thought of for a standard of value. For example, the same value in

silver weighs thirty times as much.

_Third_: The divisibility of gold at the mint into convenient pieces

for trade and commerce is all that can be desired.

_Fourth_: It has, practically speaking, perfect durability. It will

not corrode, or waste away, except by wear, and waste by wear is now

largely obviated by the use of some representative, such as our gold

certificate.

_Fifth_: Gold possesses homogeneity or perfect uniformity of structure

and material.

_Sixth_: Gold possesses cognizability, or can be readily known or

recognized.

It was undoubtedly all these inherent qualities, these prerequisites

that led to those legislative enactments which have during the last

hundred years singled out this yellow metal as the most fit arbiter of

the world's trade.

The first legislative act that seemed to lead to this ultimate decision

of the world was passed by the House of Commons in 1774, but not until

1816 was the law passed that definitely settled the question of the

standard of value for Great Britain. The very same law passed in that

year, now nearly one hundred years ago, remains in force to this day.

In 1853, the United States followed Great Britain in an attempt to

establish the gold standard. We reduced the weight of our silver

coins, smaller than one dollar, and made them legal tender for only

five dollars in amount. The silver dollar was not considered in

this legislation of 1853, and not until February 12, 1873, did the

gold dollar become the unit of value, when the gold standard was

unequivocally established. The silver dollar was at that time worth

about two cents more than a gold dollar, and therefore it was omitted

from the coinage. This was the famous crime of '73, about which the

men now wearing gray hair, or no hair, heard so much in the '80's and

early '90's. Yes, we were hearing this as late as 1896, when it was the

Battle Cry of the Presidential Campaign.

It may be stated that practically the whole civilized world, with

the single exception of Great Britain, has come to the single gold

standard, since 1873.

The only country now remaining upon the silver basis, or that has not

taken steps to place itself upon a gold basis, is, according to the

report of the Director of the Mint, the Central American States, which

are of comparatively no commercial importance whatever.

MR. MERCHANT: How much gold is there in the world today?

MR. LAWYER: It was estimated in 1890 that the amount of gold

accumulated was approximately $4,000,000,000 (four thousand million

dollars).

The amount of gold produced during the last twenty-two years, or since

1890, by all the countries of the world approximates $6,500,000,000

(six thousand five hundred million dollars). Of course a deduction,

or allowance, must be made for what has been used outside of monetary

purposes, or in industrial consumption, approximately $1,500,000,000

(one thousand five hundred million dollars). A deduction should also

be made for what has been absorbed by India, about $700,000,000 (seven

hundred million dollars), and also by Egypt, about $200,000,000 (two

hundred million dollars), or nearly $1,000,000,000 (one thousand

million dollars), by these two countries.

The Director of the Mint in his report, Page 53, says:

"In statistics of the precious metals India is the most important

country of Asia, and has long been one of the most important in the

world. The Government of India has advised this bureau that the

uncoined gold imported into that country might be considered to be

used for ornaments and in manufactures. This amounted in 1910 to

$47,026,698.

"The movement to India deserves to be treated in a class by itself. A

large part of the gold and silver that goes there sinks out of sight,

and whether it is made into ornaments or buried in the ground, is

withdrawn at least in large part from the monetary stock of the world.

Some of it may be brought out in periods of emergency, such as times of

famine, and reconverted into money, but in the past a steady stream of

the precious metals has moved into India and disappeared as a factor

in the commercial world. Sir James Wilson, K.C.S.I., for many years in

the Government service in India, in a comprehensive address delivered

before the East India Association of London, on June 14, 1911, reported

the net imports of gold by India since 1840 at about $1,200,000,000, or

one-tenth of the world's production in that time.

"It may be questioned whether the economists who are expressing fears

as to the effects that may result from the production of gold at the

present rate are aware of the amount of that metal taken by India since

the gold standard was definitely established, and the Government began

to pay out sovereigns freely. That occurred in 1900. For the ten-year

period, 1890-1899, the net imports plus the country's own production

were $135,800,000; for the eleven years, 1900-1910, they aggregated

$433,800,000. For the British fiscal years ended March 31, 1911, they

amounted to $90,487,000, or about one-quarter of the world's production

after the industrial consumption was provided for.

"_If this ability on the part of India to take and pay for gold proves

to be permanent, it is apparent that there will be no over supply to

trouble the rest of the world._"

The finance department of the Government of India, in its report for

the fiscal year ended March 31, 1911, commenting upon these figures,

says:

"'The gold figures are striking, but it is equally remarkable that the

increase in gold has not been at the expense of silver; the country, in

other words, continues to take practically the same amount of silver,

but it prefers that the addition to the imports of treasure which it

has been able to claim should be in the form of gold.'"

Sir James Wilson, in the address alluded to, sums up his explanation by

saying:

"'As for India, her prosperity is steadily advancing. Great numbers of

her people prefer to spend their savings on gold rather than on other

commodities. The probability is that altogether apart from questions

of currency India will continue to absorb gold in ever increasing

quantities.'

"The Egyptian situation is somewhat like that of India. The country is

on a gold basis, and for thirty years has been steadily taking gold

in the settlement of its trade balances. The high price of cotton in

recent years, and the increasing production of the country explains

the trade balances, but there is some mystery about the way the gold

disappears from view. It does not enter into bank stocks, and it is

difficult to understand how a country of its size and population, and

in which the masses of the people are so poor, can absorb so much gold

coin. In the first period under review the customs records show net

imports by $58,670,000, and in the second period, $146,660,000. For the

year 1910 they were $30,000,000.

"Some light is shed upon the situation by the following statement in an

address by Lord Cromer, made in London, in 1907:

"'A little while ago I heard of an Egyptian gentleman who died leaving

a fortune of £80,000 [$400,000], the whole of which was in gold coin in

his cellars. Then, again, I heard of a substantial yeoman who bought

property for £25,000 ($125,000). Half an hour after the contract was

signed he appeared with a train of donkeys bearing on their backs the

money, which had been buried in his garden. I hear that on the occasion

of a fire in a provincial town no less than £5,000 ($25,000) was found

hidden in earthen pots. I could multiply instances of this sort. There

can be no doubt that the practice of hoarding is carried on to an

excessive degree.'"

In round figures the approximate amount of gold remaining for

commercial or banking purposes is approximately $4,000,000,000 (four

thousand million dollars), in addition to what we had in 1890, making a

total of $8,000,000,000 (eight thousand million dollars).

Of this total amount the United States has $1,800,000,000 (one thousand

eight hundred million dollars), or nearly one-quarter of the monetary

gold supply of the world.

However, if we had our proper proportion of the world's monetary gold,

considered from the standpoint of our bank resources, we should have

upwards of $3,000,000,000 (three thousand million dollars).

MR. BANKER: How do you make that out?

MR. LAWYER: The banking resources of the entire world are now

about $55,000,000,000, while those of the United States are about

$25,000,000,000, or two-fifths of the bank resources of the world,

and therefore we are entitled to two-fifths of the eight billion of

monetary gold of the world. This would give us $3,200,000,000.

While, as I have just said, it is true that there have been no

discoveries of new fields since 1890, with the exception of the

Klondike, a most important event occurred in the discovery of the

Cyanide process, which was, with the circumstances attending it, well

described by the Mining World and Engineering Record of London, which

said:

"The discovery of the Cyanide process must be regarded as one of the

greatest achievements of modern time. And there can be no doubt that

Cyaniding will be held by the coming generation for its importance, not

so much to the mineral industries directly, as for its bearing upon

world economies in rendering possibly a greatly increased output of

gold and silver year after year. In a comparatively brief twenty-year

interval since 1890, when Messrs. McArthur and Forrest brought the

modern perfected Cyanide process prominently before the mining world,

the output of gold has amounted to 284,081,289 fine ounces. This is a

most astonishing showing, especially when compared with a total output

of 401,311,148 fine ounces for the entire 397 years previous from 1493

to 1890, a period lacking just three years of being four centuries.

"For the great expansion in the world's output, particularly noticeable

in the past fifteen years, the spread of the Cyanide process is

directly responsible. Nor, if we except the Klondike, has this record

production been boomed by the development of new fields. The cream of

the world's gold fields had already been skimmed in previous years in

California, Australia, South Africa, Siberia, India, and elsewhere. It

is mainly on the cast-off leavings of the old field that the Cyanide

process has achieved a record production of the yellow metal. And among

those leavings, we must not forget the innumerable low-grade properties

whose exploitation has been rendered fundamentally possible only by

the Cyanide process. It is these latter which now furnish the bulk of

the world's supply of gold, and upon which the world must depend very

largely for its future requirements."

MR. BANKER: Those figures are startling. We must be getting more gold

than we need for banking purposes.

MR. LAWYER: On the contrary, our banking resources are increasing

faster than our gold supply. In 1890 the banking resources of the world

were estimated at $16,000,000,000, less than one-third of what they are

today. That is, the banking resources have trebled since 1890, and the

gold supply for reserve or monetary purposes has only doubled.

MR. BANKER: What about the gold supply for the future?

MR. LAWYER: The production during the past four years has been about

stationary, averaging $450,000,000 each year. You must remember there

have been no gold discoveries of any consequence during the past ten

years, and it is very probable that the production will remain almost

stationary for a few years to come. At present it looks as though the

gold supply, and the demand for gold for monetary purposes, would run

along about equal. Of course the more intimate the business relations

of the nations of the earth become, the more efficient will the reserve

of gold become, because the reserves of the world will become more and

more mobilized, and therefore more efficient in the conduct of the

world's business.

MR. MERCHANT: From what you have said, and as a result of my own study,

I am convinced that the adoption of the Gold Standard was a natural

selection. It was the survival of the fittest.

Thousands of books have been written upon this subject, and libraries

literally filled with them.

In 1896, when the Presidential campaign was fought out on this

question, my investigation led me into an extended historical review

of the use of metals as money. I found that it had been in use by

the Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Chinese,

the Europeans during the middle ages, and that the struggle between

gold and silver during the last two hundred years had resulted to the

advantage of the people, to the commerce of every nation and to the

whole world. This last struggle was not whether gold or silver should

be the standard of value, but whether both should or could be used as

the standard of value. That is, could we have a double standard. The

decision has been unequivocal and universally in favor of a single

standard of value, and that standard gold.

But the double or bi-metallic standard had been a troublesome question

long before that. Professor Ridgeway says that from the first to the

last the Greek communities were engaged in an endless quest after

bi-metallism * * *, but while the gold unit never varies in any part

of Hellas, until a late epoch, the silver coins exhibit differences

not merely between one district and another, but even between one

period and another in the same city or state. There is incontrovertible

evidence to prove that the same trouble was caused by the fluctuation

in the relative value of gold and silver, as arises in modern times.

DelMar also states that gold Greek coins remained constant while the

silver ones varied, and had to be adjusted.

At present, it may be stated as a general truth, that all other

things throughout the commercial world are now measured by gold, or

very soon will be, as all the commercial nations of the earth, with a

single exception, have taken steps looking to the adoption of the Gold

Standard.

The Gold Standard is the evolution of the ages.

SECOND NIGHT

WHAT IS MONEY?

UNCLE SAM: At our talk last Wednesday evening we all agreed upon two

facts, and these were fundamental to the consideration of a financial

and banking system for me.

The first fact was this: that Gold is the Standard of Value all the

world over, as well as our standard.

The second fact: that a Standard of Value was something by which the

value of all other things is measured.

It must necessarily follow then, and be perfectly clear to all of us

that everything we produce, and everything that we buy and sell is

measured by Gold. In other words _that Gold is our money and that our

money is Gold_.

MR. LAWYER: Uncle Sam, you say "Gold is our Money." Now, it seems to me

as though there must be something done to gold to make it money, even

though all our money is gold.

MR. BANKER: Yes, something is done to gold to make it money, and to

circulate it as money. Just three things are done to gold to make it

possible to circulate it as money.

_First_, we have established a degree of fineness. The gold coin we

circulate as money is nine-tenths pure gold, or nine-tenths fine, and

one-tenth of cheaper metal. This is added to give it an increased

hardness so that the loss by rubbing the gold against other things will

not be so great. This loss is called the abrasion of gold.

_Second_, we have established a unit of value in gold which is one

dollar, composed of twenty-five and eight-tenths grains of gold,

nine-tenths pure, or fine.

_Third_, Uncle Sam here cuts up the gold into pieces as follows: he

makes a two dollar and a half piece, which contains two and a half

times as much gold as our unit of value and stamps each piece two and

a half dollars. It is known as a quarter eagle, being one-quarter of

the ten dollar piece which is called the eagle. He makes a five dollar

piece which contains five times as much gold as our unit of value and

stamps each piece five dollars. It is also known as a half eagle. He

makes a piece which contains ten times as much gold as our unit of

value and he stamps it ten dollars. It is also known as the eagle. He

makes a piece which contains twenty times as much gold as our unit of

value and stamps it twenty dollars. It is also known as the double

eagle. This is called making coins, or coining money.

These four gold coins constitute all the money there is in the United

States, for Uncle Sam does not make pieces containing twenty-five and

eight-tenths grains of gold, nine-tenths pure, or fine any more, and

stamp them one dollar because this piece of gold was so small as to be

inconvenient, indeed an actual nuisance. Uncle Sam stopped making these

coins in 1890.

UNCLE SAM: That is right, and I don't make any more gold pieces now

containing fifty times as much gold as my unit of value for the same

reason that I don't make any of the dollar pieces. A fifty dollar piece

was found to be inconvenient and in a way an actual nuisance.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Well, Uncle Sam, I would like to have a few of such

nuisances, and if any of you fellows have any of these two nuisances,

even the one dollar pieces about your persons, I wish you would allow

me to relieve you of all you have of either kind. When it comes to

getting rid of that kind of a nuisance, you don't seem to be in a hurry

about it. However, just remember that I stand ready at all times to

remove a nuisance of that kind, if it happens to be bothering any of

you.

MR. MERCHANT: We will remember that and give you the first chance.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Well, you might as well forget it, for I'll never get

the chance.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Mr. Banker, did I understand you to say that the

four gold coins you have mentioned, the two and a half, the five

dollar, ten dollar and twenty dollar gold pieces constitute all the

money that there is in the United States?

MR. BANKER: That is precisely what I said, and I stand ready to prove

it. Yes, to demonstrate it absolutely, and if I don't convince everyone

of you that I am right, I'll eat all the other stuff you call money

that you can bring me.

MR. LAWYER: Here is a gold certificate, isn't that money?

MR. BANKER: Mr. Lawyer, please hand me that certificate. Here is what

it says on its face: "_This certifies that there have been deposited in

the Treasury of the United States of America Ten Dollars in Gold Coin

payable to the bearer on demand_." It is perfectly evident, Mr. Lawyer,

that this is nothing but a warehouse receipt for ten dollars, stored

in Washington subject to the demand of the holder. There is just the

same difference between that and the gold coin as there is between a

trunk and a trunk check. You would not hold up a trunk check, and tell

me that it was a trunk. This certificate is no more money than a trunk

check is a trunk.

MR. LAWYER: You are right, Mr. Banker. There is nothing so absolutely

essential in our talk, as illustrated by this incident, as the use of

correct, exact language. And I am very glad that you have impressed

this fact so indelibly upon our minds at the outset.

MR. FARMER: Did you say, Mr. Banker, that all the money there was in

the United States were the gold coins? Then you said that if you didn't

convince the rest of us that that was the fact, you would eat all the

other stuff that we call money that we would bring you. Now, it seems

to me as though that was just one of your smooth, slick tricks of

getting what we have got in our pockets, as usual. How does that strike

the rest of you boys? Now, I have a few silver slugs here, Mr. Banker,

that will keep you busy chewing until you pass over, if you try that

game on us.

MR. BANKER: That is all right, Mr. Farmer, but you wait until you hear

me out.

Now, let us agree upon one fact, and that is this, that Uncle Sam over

there is not making or coining any other pieces of gold than the four

pieces I have just described, and that none of the one dollar or fifty

dollar pieces are now in circulation. Do you all agree that that is a

fair assumption under the circumstances?

UNCLE SAM: Yes, that is a perfectly fair assumption that all of the gold now

in circulation consists of the four pieces I am now making, the two and a

half, five, ten and twenty dollar pieces. But, if they constitute all

the money I have in circulation, I am mightily fooled, and it is high

time I was put right.

MR. BANKER: Well, that is what I am going to do. I am going to put you

right, for you have not only been fooled yourself, but you've been

fooling the people long enough as well.

Three hundred and fifty years B.C., one of the greatest philosophers,

and one of the wisest men that ever lived, described the development

and evolution of money, and defined what money was better than any man

ever has since, I think. That man was Aristotle. Aristotle's account of

the origin and definition of money was as follows:

"It is plain that in the first Society (that is in the household) there

was no such thing as barter, but that it took place when the community

became enlarged: for the former had all things in common, while the

latter, being separated, must exchange with each other according to

their needs, just as many barbarous tribes now subsist by barter; for

these merely exchange one useful thing for another, as, for example,

giving and receiving wine for grain and other things in like manner.

This kind of trading is not contrary to nature, nor does it resemble

a gainful occupation, being merely the complement of one's natural

independence. From this, nevertheless, it came about logically that as

the machinery for bringing in what was wanted, and of sending out a

surplus was inconvenient, the use of money was devised as a matter of

necessity. For not all the necessaries of life are easy of carriage;

wherefore, to effect their exchanges, men contrived something to give

and take among themselves, which being valuable in itself, had the

advantage of being easily passed from hand to hand for the needs of

life--such as iron, or silver, or something else of that kind, of which

they first determined merely the size and weight, but eventually put a

stamp on it in order to save the trouble of weighing, for the stamp was

placed there as _the sign of its value_."

Wilbur Aldrich says: "Gold, and no other thing, sustains all the

functions of money. Gold is money as soon as it is taken from the

earth, without smelting, without refining, without minting and without

limitation."

Horace White says: "Nobody would give that which has cost him labor in

exchange for something which he could obtain without labor."

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, you quoted a man there, Mr. Aldrich, I think

it was, who said that gold alone possessed all the functions of money.

Just what do you mean by the "functions of money"?

MR. BANKER: I am glad that you asked that very question, because those

functions have determined the place of gold in the world's business,

and made it the standard of value of the world, and consequently the

money of the world.

Those functions are these:

_First_: Gold is a measure of value; that is, all other things are

measured in gold.

_Second_: Gold is divided into units, such as our dollar, the English

sovereign, the French franc, the German mark, and so determines prices.

_Third_: Gold is a medium of exchange.

_Fourth_: Gold is a storehouse of value; that is, the people of the

world hold it as an absolutely safe form of property, varying less in

value than anything else they can possess.

_Fifth_: It is such a permanent form of value that it is made the basis

or standard of future or deferred payments: not only at the end of a

year, but at the end of twenty-five or fifty years.

MR. MERCHANT: I would like to ask you whether you think there is

anything in this claim that gold is cheaper today than twenty years

ago? Whether it is falling in value, and as a consequence prices of

everything else, which must be compared with gold, are rising?

MR. BANKER: No, sir, I do not think that the increased output of gold

is the cause of higher prices. The increased prices can be more than

accounted for in other ways. Think of it. There are:

1. The Trusts,

2. The Middleman,

3. Advertising,

4. Unscientific Management,

5. Overcapitalization,

6. Monopoly! Monopoly!

7. Extravagance,

8. Militarism,

9. Exhaustion of Soil,

10. High Rates of Interest on Agricultural Loans,

11. Unnecessary Disease,

12. Concentration of Population in Cities,

13. Shorter Hours by one-quarter,

14. Increased Wages by one-quarter at least; in some instances, 150%,

15. Shorter Hours for Women,

16. Child Labor Laws,

17. Minimum Wage Laws,

18. Workmen's Compensation Acts,

19. Insurance Against Unemployment,

20. Old Age Pensions.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Well, I don't know what you fellows think, but I

am for everyone of these forward movements that make for a better

humanity, morally, intellectually and physically; and I'm utterly

opposed to the unfair advantages that any man, or corporation, has over

any other man, or any other corporation. A just government rules its

people through just laws, and guarantees equal opportunities under the

operation of those laws.

MR. BANKER: So I think we all are, or will be, very soon. Every lover

of his country, everyone who recognizes that the government exists for

man--manhood and womanhood--must be for these purposes, but all these

things will require a readjustment, and will take time. I am only

saying that these things more than account for all your high prices,

but let me finish.

21. During the past ten years, 10,000,000 of our people have shifted,

or gone, from the country to the cities. Food producers have decreased,

and food consumers have increased by 10,000,000. Our population has

increased 47% and our food products only 30% since 1890.

22. The hundreds of millions that have gone into automobiles, not one

dollar in a thousand of which produces anything but a good time, or a

joy ride, is a burden on production, and has been affecting prices,

because they are nothing but luxuries.

23. Then there are all the other conveniences of life, such as

telephones, electric light, etc.

Again, gentlemen, let us note where the gold has gone to during

the last ten years, the period of increase in price. Germany got

only $40,000,000, although her business has expanded enormously.

England took only $30,000,000, while France took $300,000,000, Russia

$200,000,000, and we absorbed $1,100,000,000. During the same time

India took $433,000,000. Will anyone say that the prices in these

various countries have in any way shown or reflected the amount of gold

taken or absorbed?

Let some one come forward and prove that gold has become cheaper by

pointing out that prices in the various countries indicate its effects

upon commodities. Lastly, let them explain the fact that while the

banking resources of the world have increased from $16,000,000,000

to over $55,000,000,000, or increased three and one-half times,

the gold for monetary purposes has only doubled, or increased from

$4,000,000,000 to $8,000,000,000.

MR. MERCHANT: I am more than satisfied and pleased that I asked you

that question, for I knew it would be constantly bobbing up and

bothering us, as we went along. When I interrupted you, you were

speaking of gold and its functions as money.

MR. BANKER: Yes, and I assert that no other substance or thing

possesses these functions, qualifications or characteristics, at least

in no such degree as gold. Does anyone here deny that?

MR. LAWYER: I think we must all agree to that, and further I would say

that anything that did not possess all these functions, qualifications

or characteristics in combination cannot very well be called money. To

illustrate, if anything was used as a medium of exchange but depended

upon its relation to gold for its acceptance it could not be called

money.

I am fully aware that we speak of "cash" and "money," as anything we

get in exchange for property, but this language does not mean anything

definite, except as to the transaction.

I want to lay this down as an absolute rule, and something that no one

of us should forget or overlook during our conversations.

"_We should be careful to avoid calling any kind of credit instrument

money, no matter how much used as a medium of exchange._"

Let me read that again.

UNCLE SAM: Now, let me see just what you mean by that. If I understand

you, I think that is an attack upon me, upon my credit. For if my

recollection serves me right, the United States Notes, or Greenbacks,

have been called money, and treated as money ever since I issued them

during the war, way back in 1862, I think it was.

MR. BANKER: Well, Uncle Sam, do you think calling a thing something

which it is not makes it that thing? To say that the moon is made of

green cheese does not make it so. Now, here's one of your United States

Notes, or Greenbacks. Do you recollect what you printed on that at the

time you issued it, and have been printing on it ever since? This is

what it says:

"_The United States will pay the bearer $5.00._"

That promise, or agreement, can mean but one thing, and that is

that you will pay the bearer five times one dollar, or five times

twenty-five and eight-tenths grains of gold, nine-tenths fine.

Now, it must be perfectly clear to you, indeed, the conclusion is

incontrovertible, that that $5.00 United States Note, by which you

agree to pay me $5.00 cash, can't be the $5.00 itself.

MR. FARMER: No, by jocks, I know that is true. Tom Jones gave me a

written agreement to deliver me a horse last Monday morning. I sent

my boy over with his written promise for the horse, and he refused to

deliver the horse. Certainly, his promise was not the horse; that's

perfectly clear to me, for I did not get the horse, and that's the same

kind of a deal that this United States Note is.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Yes, but Uncle Sam is no such flunker as that.

MR. BANKER: Well, he flunked from 1862 until 1879, for about seventeen

years, and he came within an ace of flunking again in 1894. He is

liable to flunk any time it suits him, if he should get into a tight

place.

UNCLE SAM: That's so, and the misfortune and the shame of it is, that I

am left in a position where I am compelled to flunk.

MR. BANKER: I agree with you, but that only adds additional proof that

this $5.00 bill, which is your promissory note, your I.O.U., or old due

bill, given for boots, mules and ammunition during the war, is not

money at all, but a mere promise to pay money.

As you have just said, it is most unfortunate that you have been left

in this position by your boys who have been going to Congress for the

past fifty years, apparently without the intelligence, or courage, to

relieve you of this disgraceful situation.

UNCLE SAM: Well, if these United States Notes are nothing but

my promissory notes, or due bills, agreeing to pay money, it is

self-evident that they are not money. You have completely satisfied me

on that point. Mr. Banker, how much of that kind of stuff have I got

out?

MR. BANKER: $346,000,000.

UNCLE SAM: Great Scott, I presume if I should get into trouble with

some first-class nation, and have to go to war for a few years, and

the people began to wonder whether I was going to pull through and pay

my debts, that is to doubt my ability to stand the bill, and all that

$346,000,000, then that $5.00 United States Note would not pass for

$5.00.

MR. BANKER: Precisely so; that very note passed for only $1.75 at one

time in 1864, or only 35 cents on the dollar.

UNCLE SAM: Well, I wish Congress would get busy and pay these things

off, so that I would be prepared for business, if anything should turn

up compelling me to fight.

MR. MANUFACTURER: From what you have said, Mr. Banker, and what Uncle

Sam admits, I guess we all agree that the United States Notes, or

Greenbacks, are not money at all, but just ordinary debts, or demands

for money, and therefore cannot themselves be money, of course. But

what have you to say about this National Bank Note here? How does this

differ from the United States Notes or Greenbacks? Don't you admit that

this is some sort or kind of money?

MR. BANKER: I do not. It is no more money than the United States Note.

Just read what it says:

MR. MANUFACTURER: I will. This is what it says:

"_The First National Bank of New York will pay the bearer $5.00._"

Mr. Banker: Don't you see that that bill is a mere I.O.U. of the Bank,

nothing but a promise to pay five times twenty-five and eight-tenths

grains of gold, nine-tenths fine, to the bearer? It does not differ in

the slightest degree from the United States Note except that one is

the promise of the First National Bank of New York, and the other the

promise of Uncle Sam to pay $5.00. You can no more say that a promise

of a bank to pay money is money than you can say that a promise of

Uncle Sam to pay money is money. Both are debts, and both are demands

for money, and therefore neither can be money.

MR. FARMER: Gentlemen, while I must admit that Mr. Banker has

completely, yes, absolutely, gotten away with the United States Notes

and National Bank Notes and convinced us that they are not money at

all, just watch me choke him with this silver slug, weighing 412-1/2

grains, and bearing two invincible superscriptions.

_First_: "In God we trust."

_Second_: "United States of America, One Dollar." Mr. Banker, what

have you to say about our Silver Dollar? Do you mean to tell me it is

not money? That's what I want to know. Think of it, this dollar of our

daddies not money.

MR. BANKER: Well, Mr. Farmer, if you'll follow me for half a minute, I

will only have to ask you whether you yourself think it is money; and I

will abide by your own decision. But, what I would rather do is to put

it to a vote of the crowd, and if it is not unanimous I'll give it up.

Here is a 1 cent piece, bearing one of your invincible superscriptions,

"United States of America, One cent." We have more to trust God for in

one of these cents than we have in your Silver Dollar, and therefore

it was a grave oversight when Uncle Sam left off the other invincible

superscription, "In God we trust," since this piece of bronze is worth

only about one-thousandth part of a one-hundredth part of our Gold

Dollar, or .0011890. Here is one of our nickels, bearing the same

invincible superscription, "United States of America, V cents," which

is worth about two-thousandths of one-hundredth part of a Gold Dollar,

or .0026743. Here is a 10 cent piece, worth about 4 cents, or .04456,

and here is a 25 cent piece, worth about 11 cents, or .11141. Here is

a 50 cent piece, worth about 22 cents, or .22283. Here is the sacred

dollar of our daddies, worth about 47 cents, or .47651.

Now, all these pieces of metal belong to the same class of coin from

the cent to the dollar included, and are merely token coins.

MR. MERCHANT: Well, what is a token coin?

MR. BANKER: A token coin is a piece of metal bearing the stamp of the

Government, and passing at its face value, though the metal it contains

is worth less than its face value.

This definition covers every piece of metal coin Uncle Sam makes except

our gold coins, which are worth just as much and no more in the form of

coin than they are in the form of metal, or gold bars. Now, Mr. Farmer,

I want you to understand that the silver dollar is included in these

token coins.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Well, please tell me why do people take these pieces

of money at their face value, when they are worth so much less than

they pretend to be?

MR. BANKER: For the very simple reason that Uncle Sam over there

redeems all the coins, smaller than one dollar, when presented to him

in sums of five dollars or more, and because it is made the duty of

his Secretary of the Treasury to maintain the face value of our silver

dollar with our gold dollar by exchanging gold dollars for silver

dollars, if anyone asks him to do so.

If the Government should pass a law refusing to redeem our silver

dollars with gold dollars, our silver dollar would then pass for just

what the silver it contains would be worth from day to day. It is now

worth 47 cents. In 1902 it was worth 40 cents. In other words, our

silver dollar is not its own redeemer at 100 cents any more than the

United States Notes or the National Bank Notes are their own redeemers.

A silver dollar is a demand or a check calling for a gold dollar. The

silver dollar, the United States Note, the National Bank Note all

pass at their face value because they are convertible into gold, and

are temporarily redeemed by Uncle Sam in gold, while gold is its own

redeemer, and a ten dollar gold piece, or any other gold coin, is worth

just as much, if hammered into a spike, or melted into a slug, as

when it bears the stamp of Uncle Sam, certifying its quality and its

quantity.

MR. LAWYER: Mr. Banker, what are subsidiary coins?

MR. BANKER: All these token coins are properly called subsidiary coins.

Let me read to you what Horace White says on that point:

"The word 'subsidiary' is usually applied to coins which constitute the

small change of a country, and which are legal tender only for limited

amounts. In the United States the silver dollar must be classed as

subsidiary also; for, although it is full legal tender, the Government

does not coin it for private individuals as it coins gold. It is

subsidiary or subordinate to gold coin."

MR. LABORINGMAN: Uncle Sam, why do you make these token or subsidiary

coins?

UNCLE SAM: I make token or subsidiary coins out of silver, nickel, and

copper just as a matter of convenience to the people, and as a result

of custom also.

MR. LAWYER: I think what Horace White says upon that point is

particularly good, and answers your question, Mr. Laboringman,

completely. White says:

"If subsidiary silver coins circulate at a value which is largely

imaginary, the question may be asked, why not make them of some other

metal, or even of paper? There are no reasons except custom and

convenience. A coin, not heavier than a half dollar, is more convenient

than a piece of paper; it is cleaner, and in the long run is probably

cheaper, as it does not require frequent renewal. A cheaper coin might

be made out of some other metal, but it is generally best to conform

to the habits of the people. Having been always accustomed to a silver

subsidiary coinage no good reason is apparent why we should depart from

it."

MR. MERCHANT: Of course, you must use something besides gold to make

the 50, 25, 10 and 1 cent pieces out of, because even a gold dollar

would be found to be impracticable on account of its size. It would

take a microscope to find a piece of gold worth only 5 cents.

MR. LABORINGMAN: And it would take a telescope to find a piece of gold

worth only 1 cent.

MR. BANKER: Mr. White has this to say also about the silver dollar:

"The silver dollar is a larger kind of subsidiary coin, and should be

treated by the Government exactly as the smaller ones are treated. The

Government has received the value of a gold dollar for every silver

one emitted, and is therefore bound in equity to redeem the dollars

as it redeems the halves, quarters and dimes.... There are additional

reasons, however, for direct redemption of the silver dollar. One is

that such coins are unlimited legal tender between individuals. Another

is that there is a certain amount of public apprehension and lack of

confidence touching any coin which passes for more than its metallic

value."

"McLeod says that in 1691 in a posthumous work Sir William Petty

pointed out that one metal only should be adopted as the standard unit,

and other metals should be issued as subsidiary to the standard unit.

The same doctrine was advocated with great force and at great length by

Locke in 1693, and also by Harris in the middle of the last century,

and was finally embodied in the great masterpiece of the subject 'Lord

Liverpool's Coins of the Realm,' published in 1805."

Now, gentlemen, it must be apparent to everyone that a silver dollar is

only another form of a debt of Uncle Sam over there, and that unless he

continues to stand ready to exchange gold dollars for silver dollars,

and so keep the silver dollars in circulation at 100 cents, they would

circulate at their metal or bullion value, or at about 47 cents.

Mr. Farmer, do you think that stamping One Dollar upon that silver

coin, added one-hundredth part of a cent to it, or affected its value

in the slightest degree? Are you not convinced that it is not money at

all, but a mere debt of Uncle Sam and that it is a mere demand for One

Dollar in gold, and nothing more?

MR. FARMER: I am bound to admit that you have surprised me, indeed

paralyzed me, for I thought the Silver Dollar was money, but it is

certainly exactly the same sort of thing that the Greenback and the

National Bank Note is, and if they are not money, neither is the Silver

Dollar money.

MR. MERCHANT: I am sure we all agree on that point now, but what about

this silver certificate? Do you pretend, Mr. Banker, that all our

Silver Certificates are not money either?

MR. BANKER: That is just what I assert, but I claim still more than

that with regard to the Silver Certificate; for, if you will read it,

you will find that it is only a warehouse receipt for silver dollars,

which have been deposited in the United States Treasury; and therefore

is not a promise to pay anything, but simply to deliver so many silver

dollars, which, as I have just demonstrated, must be redeemed in gold

to keep them going for 100 cents on the dollar.

MR. LAWYER: I am going to ask one question in this connection, and that

is this. The United States Notes are a legal tender for everything

except to pay taxes on goods coming into the country and interest on

the debt and silver dollars are a legal tender, unless the contract

is made payable in something else. Does not the fact that the United

States Note and the Silver Dollar are legal tender, make them money?

MR. LABORINGMAN: What's legal tender?

MR. LAWYER: Anything which can be lawfully used in payment of a debt,

or which creditors are compelled to accept, is called legal tender

currency.

MR. BANKER: The fact that the United States Note and Silver Dollar are

legal tender does not change the real character of either of them.

Don't you know that the very fact that you are compelled, or think

you are compelled, to make anything legal tender, to make it go for

something it is not, lowers its value and depreciates that very thing?

The price of the United States Notes or Greenbacks from the day they

were issued, until January 1, 1879, the date Uncle Sam redeemed his

promise to pay gold for them, was simply a quotation of the government

credit. This credit ranged from $1.00 to 35 cents. White says: "The

difference between these extreme quotations may be taken to represent

changes in the public credit, or various vicissitudes and states of

mind, dependent upon the war."

Again he says: "In 1864 Congress attempted to check the depreciation

of the currency by closing the gold exchange, and prohibiting sales

of gold or foreign exchange for future delivery. The premium on gold

advanced more rapidly after the passage of this Act than before, and

Congress repealed it two weeks later."

MR. LABORINGMAN: Now, men, let me see if I understand what this is all

about. If I have caught on to just what you have been saying about

gold, which is all the money we have, and all these promises to pay

money, these United States Notes, Bank Notes and Silver Dollars, the

difference between gold coins and these promises is the same as the

difference between a meal and a meal ticket. And when you come to the

Silver Certificate that is only an order for a meal ticket.

UNCLE SAM: By Jove, he's hit the thing plump and square on the head,

hasn't he, boys? But what I want to know now is how many of these meal

tickets I've got out in one form or another? And, Mr. Banker, I want to

know another thing. I want to know how many cans of pork and beans I

have on hand to meet the meal tickets with?

MR. BANKER: Well, Uncle Sam, as I look at it you have 1,659,000,000

meal tickets out, and only 150,000,000 cans of pork and beans to meet

the demand for meals.

UNCLE SAM: Great Scott, what unbounded confidence the people must have

in me not to shove those meal tickets in, before I get ready to supply

the meals. What is worrying me is this, if anything should happen to

cause any suspicion on that score, the jig would be up with me, and I

can see the end of my credit; but of course that wouldn't be my finish.

Now, what I want done is this: I want to shift these meal tickets over

to the banks where they belong, or make full provision for them myself,

so that I can stop worrying, and shall be ready for business, if called

upon to meet a first-class nation in a protracted war.

By the way, Mr. Banker, just how did you make those meal tickets amount

to 1,659,000,000 and that I had on hand only 150,000,000 cans of pork

and beans to meet the meal tickets with? You must remember it takes one

can of pork and beans to redeem one meal ticket.

MR. BANKER: Uncle Sam, you will remember that you have $346,000,000 of

United States Notes to pay. You have also $563,000,000 Silver Dollars

to redeem, and there are $750,000,000 National Bank Notes, making a

total of $1,659,000,000, all resting on your $150,000,000 of gold in

the reserve of your Treasury.

UNCLE SAM: Yes, but I don't have to pay those National Bank Notes, do I?

MR. BANKER: Well, Uncle Sam, it's this way, you know, you have to pay

them out of a 5% fund created by the bankers, but the bankers can turn

right around and ask you to redeem the United States Notes which you

pay them for the National Bank Notes, in gold.

UNCLE SAM: Mr. Banker, tell me another thing. If these silver

certificates are nothing but warehouse receipts calling for silver

dollars, and the silver dollars are nothing but token coins, then all

these silver certificates are nothing but token or subsidiary coins in

another form.

MR. BANKER: That is literally true.

UNCLE SAM: And you say I have $563,000,000 of silver dollars out good

for nothing but token or subsidiary coin?

MR. BANKER: Precisely so.

UNCLE SAM: Now, what I want to know is this. How much of this silver is

needed today to supply the people with the token or subsidiary coin, up

to and including the $2.00 bills; that is, the $2.00 bill, the $1.00

bill, 50, 25, 10 and 5 cent pieces?

MR. BANKER: There are in circulation today about $400,000,000 of these

various forms of subsidiary or token coins, or about $4.00 for every

man, woman and child in this country.

UNCLE SAM: What is the total amount of silver in the country then, of

all kinds, silver dollars and pieces of silver less than one dollar?

Tell me that.

MR. BANKER: There are, as I just said a moment ago, $563,000,000 of

silver dollars and $147,000,000 of silver pieces less than one dollar,

or a total of $710,000,000.

UNCLE SAM: Well, well, you frighten me, for at the rate of four dollars

each, the amount necessary for the convenience of the people, I am

stacked up ahead for at least fifty years, or until we have about

200,000,000 of people; for you say we have all told $710,000,000 of

silver coins in the country now. I want to tell you gentlemen, right

now, that I want to get out of this hole, and I want to keep your mind

steadily on that point as we go along.

The whole situation is a most embarrassing one. Tell me how much gold

coin we have scattered about everywhere over the country?

MR. BANKER: There is about $1,850,000,000 of gold available in the

country.

UNCLE SAM: Then I am confident there is great plenty for the present,

if we can devise some plan, or scheme, to avail ourselves of it.

MR. LAWYER: I am convinced of that also, but the trouble is going to be

to bring it together, centralize it and so mobilize it that we can make

the most of it. We have learned one great and most important lesson

tonight, and that is that the only money we have is gold, and that

we cannot substitute an agreement to pay gold, a debt, a mere demand

for gold itself, for it. Such a proposal when you think of it is an

absurdity, a contradiction of terms.

To state the result of our conversation, or our conclusion, as I

understand it, it is this: Money must be coined out of a commodity that

is just as valuable in the form of a commodity as it is in the form of

coin. A piece of gold weighing just the same as a $20 gold coin, if as

pure, is worth just as much as a $20 gold piece.

Last Wednesday evening we all agreed that, as the result of our

conversation, gold was the standard of value of the entire world, and

was our standard of value as well.

Tonight, as I understand the result of our talk, we all agree that the

only money we have in this country is gold coin; that our money is gold

coin, and that our gold coin is our money.

Next Wednesday night let us investigate our currency and ask ourselves

"What is currency?"

Before we separate, I want to read to you what Webster says currency

is, because I want you to be thinking over the matter in the mean time.

Webster says:

"Currency is the state or quality of being current; a continual course

or passing from person to person or hand to hand; general acceptance;

circulation."

MR. LABORINGMAN: You mean something that everyone takes and is glad to

get.

MR. LAWYER: Precisely so; it is that which is in circulation, or is

given and taken as having value, or is representing value, as the

currency of the country.

If we all keep this definition in mind, we shall have very little

trouble next Wednesday evening in agreeing upon what currency is, and

what it ought to be.

UNCLE SAM: I want you men to remember one thing, and that is this, that

we want no currency in this country that isn't as good as gold, and

currently redeemed in gold coin to prove it. Nothing will satisfy Uncle

Sam but the best, and don't you forget it. On top of that I want to

plant another proposition, and that is this: It's not my business to be

exchanging gold for that currency either. Compel the banks to do that,

for that is their business.

But first, we will settle what our currency is, and what it ought to be.

Good Night.

THIRD NIGHT

WHAT IS CURRENCY?

UNCLE SAM: Well, boys, when we parted last Wednesday night, it was

agreed that we should take up for consideration and discussion tonight

the question, "What is Currency?" And just before we left Mr. Lawyer

read Webster's definition of Currency.

MR. MERCHANT: I am very glad that he did so because it gave me a start,

and set me to thinking, and as a result I became very much interested

in the subject.

MR. BANKER: I have made the question of currency a study now for

several years, and regard it of prime importance in any financial and

banking system; but especially so considering the peculiar conditions

existing in this country with our vast extent of territory, and the

many distinct commercial centers there are here, each specializing in

some one kind of production or industry. But more particularly is a

right form of currency essential in this country because of the great

number of our individual, independent banks now exceeding 25,000.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Well, Mr. Banker, it strikes me that you are getting

a trifle on to a side line. Let us get right down to business, and see

if we can make any progress in determining just what Currency is, what

kind we have and what kind we ought to have, if any change is to be

made.

To my mind, and I have put all the spare time I had upon the question,

that definition when fully understood described currency perfectly,

and will help us amazingly in arriving at a clear idea of just what

currency is as well as what it is not. Let me restate a part of

it, which I think covers all of it. "Currency is that which is in

circulation, or is given and taken as having value, or as representing

value." That is, currency may have value in itself, as illustrated by

our gold coin, or may only represent value, as illustrated by our gold

certificate.

Again, the definition described another quality, when it said that

"currency passes from person to person, or from hand to hand; general

acceptance; circulation." To be a piece of currency then, a thing may

or may not have actual value, as a gold coin, or as a gold certificate,

which can be exchanged for the coin. But the thing must have general

acceptance, that is, it must be received by the people generally, as a

matter of course, and without hesitation, and without taking anything

from it, or adding anything to it, such as a stamp, or a signature.

That is, a piece of currency having passed through a thousand hands,

remains identically the same thing, except the ordinary wear to which

it has been subjected.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, taking that explanation as correct, what

would you say that our currency consists of?

MR. BANKER: Our currency consists of the following things:

_First_: Gold coin, which is generally accepted, and has actual full

value.

_Second_: Gold certificates, which are generally accepted, but have no

actual value.

_Third_: All token, or subsidiary coin, including the silver dollar.

_Fourth_: Silver certificates.

_Fifth_: United States Notes.

_Sixth_: Bond-secured National Bank Notes.

MR. MERCHANT: I read an article recently in which checks and drafts

were spoken of as currency. Can it be possible that they can properly

be called "currency"?

MR. BANKER: Certainly not. They come under an entirely different head,

and I hope we shall spend an evening considering them very soon. Checks

and drafts never pass from person to person and from hand to hand and

are not of general acceptance. Herein lies the mark of distinction.

Checks and drafts do not pass from person to person and from hand to

hand and are always of special acceptance, that is, they are considered

before they pass. They are taken according to the strength of the

makers, acceptors and endorsers and usually pass only by endorsement.

We must make no such mistake because it will lead to a confusion of

ideas.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, you have just told us of what our currency

consisted. Gold coin, gold certificates, token coins, silver

certificates, United States Notes and our bond-secured Bank Notes.

Taken altogether I presume you would call that our currency system. Do

you call it a good system?

MR. BANKER: It is our currency system, but it is without doubt the

worst currency system in the world, if you include only respectable

commercial nations.

MR. MERCHANT: Well, Mr. Banker, what is wrong with it?

MR. BANKER: To tell you what is wrong with our currency system, I would

first have to tell you what a right kind of currency system is. And

I will proceed to do so in a word. A right kind of currency system

consists of three forms of currency only.

_First_: Gold coin, or the gold certificate.

_Second_: Token, or subsidiary coin.

_Third_: A credit bank note or bank credit currency.

All these forms of currency are absolutely essential to a right

currency system, as I shall proceed to demonstrate.

_First_: Gold coin, or its substitute, the gold certificate, is the

very foundation of a right currency system, because there must always

be present, or immediately available, a sufficient amount of gold to

prove, protect and redeem, if necessary, all other forms of currency.

_Second_: Subsidiary coins are absolutely essential as a matter of

convenience to carry on the small trade of the country.

_Third_: A credit bank note which will always spring into being,

precisely as a check does, to perform some special transaction, is the

most efficient and most economic form of currency in the world, because

it always just equals the demand for currency, and costs no more than a

deposit account, subject to check.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Just what do you mean when you say that a credit bank

note currency will cost no more than a deposit account subject to check?

MR. BANKER: I mean just this, that if you had a deposit at a bank of

$1,000, and the bank upon receiving your check for $1,000 could convert

that book account, or book debt, into a note account, or note debt, by

giving you its bank notes for $1,000, in exchange for your check, the

bank note currency would cost only the interest on the reserve carried

against the notes, which would be identical in amount with the reserve

carried against the deposit.

To illustrate, if the bank were in the country it would carry 15 per

cent reserve, if a National Bank, or $150 in cash against that deposit

of $1,000. The interest on that $150 for one year at 6 per cent would

be $9. Now, if that deposit were convertible into notes, and you kept

the same reserve of 15 per cent against them, the thousand dollars

in notes would cost only $9 per year, and could and would in turn be

reconverted into a deposit, subject to check.

Not only does this form of currency cost only about one-sixth as

much as our present currency in the form of United States Notes and

bond-secured Bank Notes, but it is the only form of currency that will

always be precisely equal to all the demands of trade. It will never

be too great in amount. It will never be too small in amount. It will

always just exactly equal the ever varying requirements of business and

will always be as good as gold, because currently redeemed in gold.

The principle of converting bank book credits into bank note credits,

in accordance with the requirements of the customers of a bank, is the

bank credit currency principle and there is not a single instance in

the history of banking where it has ever been tried and failed.

Let this be laid down as one of the eternal laws of banking. _Current

coin redemption is the very soul and breath of life to bank credit._

MR. MERCHANT: That is certainly most interesting and I must say a most

impressive fact, if we can secure a currency, equal at all times to

the requirements of trade, and always as good as gold coin, and at

an expense of one-sixth of what our present currency costs us in the

form of United States Notes and bond-secured Bank Notes. There are

today outstanding $346,000,000 United States Notes and $750,000,000 of

bond-secured Bank Notes, or about $1,100,000,000 in all. Now, since any

bank must pay par, or 100 cents on the dollar, to get possession of

either of these forms of currency, the cost of carrying either of them

will be 6 per cent on the total of $1,100,000,000, or $66,000,000 per

annum. Of course if the banks are compelled to use such an expensive

form of currency, they will have to charge their customers accordingly,

and in the end it comes out of me, Mr. Manufacturer and so on down the

line, until, finally, the cost or burden reaches Mr. Farmer over there,

or Mr. Laboringman over here.

Now, you assert that a credit currency would only cost the country

one-sixth as much, or only eleven million per year, whereas the same

amount of currency in United States Notes and bond-secured Bank Notes

now cost us $66,000,000 a year, or $55,000,000 more than it should. Of

course every cent of that must in the end come out of labor.

MR. BANKER: I said one-sixth for the country bank. The average reserve

held by all the National Banks is 20 per cent, not 15 per cent. So that

the unnecessary cost to the people of our present United States Notes

and bond-secured Bank Notes is five times as much as it should be, or

we are losing every year $53,000,000, every dollar of which must come

out of labor.

MR. MERCHANT: Now, let me see whether I understand this matter

correctly; to illustrate, let us suppose that your bank needed today

$1,000 more currency than it has on hand to accommodate a customer. You

would have to go out and buy it, and pay $1,000 for it, or obligate

your bank to do so. With interest at 6 per cent it would average $60

per year to carry it, but if you could exchange your bank's notes,

amounting to $1,000, for your customer's note of $1,000, and carry a

reserve against your bank notes outstanding of say 20 per cent or $200,

and interest is at 6 per cent, it would cost you only 6 per cent on

$200, instead of 6 per cent on $1,000; or you would make a saving of

$48 on the $1,000 of currency. Am I correct in my understanding of the

difference of cost upon these two forms of currency?

MR. BANKER: Yes, you are absolutely right. No one could state the

principle better than you have.

MR. MERCHANT: Well, then, it is clear, that if there is a saving of $48

a thousand on $1,100,000,000, we are wasting annually on that one item

alone $52,800,000.

MR. MANUFACTURER: But, gentlemen, let me call your attention to another

fact. This country is losing several times as much as that every year

on the average, because of our present rigid form of currency. Just as

soon as there is any fear anywhere in this great country about a bank

of any consequence, or about the business generally in the country,

every banker from Dan to Beersheba begins to grab currency in whatever

form he can get it, because he knows the amount is fixed and limited.

It is not nearly so much a run on the banks by the depositors, as it is

a run by the bankers on each other, just to accumulate cash. Everything

comes to a dead stop, just as it did in 1907, and it always will under

present conditions. Now, it seems to be perfectly plain that if the

banks could convert their book credits into note credits, they could

immediately meet the demand for cash, and so avert these commercial

catastrophes, which set us back years. You know we are just now

beginning to realize that we are getting over the panic of 1907.

Gentlemen, instead of the panic of 1907 costing us $53,000,000 a year,

it costs the people of the United States more than ten times as much as

that every year. God only knows what these commercial tragedies mean in

the life of a nation like ours, and it is up to us to prevent them, if

possible, and it must be possible. It looks to me as though Mr. Banker

was on the right track.

UNCLE SAM: Well, you fellows have got to show me a thing or two, before

we make the proposed changes, because I am from Missouri, as well

as from forty-seven other unsuspecting states, and don't you forget

it. In the first place, I want you to show me why my I.O.U.'s or the

United States Note, so-called Greenbacks, are not a good currency. In

the second place, I want you to show me why the present National Bank

Notes, which are secured by my bonds, dollar for dollar, are not the

best currency in the world. I have been told this for the last fifty

years, and if it is not true, it is about time I waked up.

MR. BANKER: Well, Uncle Sam, they've been fooling you, for both the

United States Notes and these bond-secured Bank Notes are the worst

form of currency in the world, and I can prove it.

UNCLE SAM: Well, you will have to prove it, that's all.

MR. BANKER: In the outset, I will tackle the United States Note, and

incidentally, I will state all the other objections to them, as well as

the objections to them as currency.

_First_: They are demand obligations against you amounting to

$346,000,000, and you must stand ready at all times to redeem them in

gold. This fact always has and always will imperil your credit. It

was the same greenbacks that sent your credit down to 35 cents on the

dollar during the war, and again they came within an ace of wrecking

your credit in 1894 when the gold in the treasury went down, down and

down, until there was only $41,000,000 left, between you and national

dishonor. Don't you remember that you then sold $262,000,000 of your

bonds to protect your credit which was being sapped by these very same

United States Notes? Pretty expensive business that, when you could

have had a currency that the banks of the country, and not you, would

have been compelled to redeem in gold whenever necessary.

You will no doubt remember that in 1879 when you began to keep your

promise, and redeem these greenbacks in coin, and make your old

due bills as good as gold, you issued $100,000,000 of bonds for a

corresponding amount of gold to establish your reserve or guarantee

fund, in order that you might keep your promise good in the future. If

you add this $100,000,000 to the other $262,000,000 you have issued

since to protect your credit against these United States Notes,

you will find that you have issued altogether $362,000,000 of your

bonds, or $16,000,000 more than the total amount of the greenbacks,

$346,000,000, and that you have also obligated yourself to pay interest

on these bonds from first to last amounting to $362,000,000 more. Now,

the astounding fact is that these old due bills, these I.O.U.'s, these

United States Notes, or so-called greenbacks, are still out and you

still owe them, just as you did in 1879, when you began keeping your

promise to redeem them in gold.

One of your expert clerks in the Treasury Department at Washington, the

Chief of the Loan and Currency Division, published a calculation in the

Congressional Record of April 29, 1908, Page 5638, that showed that, if

the greenbacks had been funded on the 1st day of January, 1879, into

4 per cent 30 year bonds, and canceled and destroyed, the total cost

to the Government for principal and interest to July 1, 1907, would

have been $741,897,340, whereas the total cost and liability actually

incurred on account of them has been $1,081,881,562; the difference in

favor of converting into bonds being $339,984,222.

Now, don't you think, Uncle Sam, that as a matter of business you'd

better get rid of these demand debts, these United States Notes?

_Second_: Don't let this most important fact escape your attention

either; that if you should be called upon to use your credit

extensively, as would be necessary in case of a great war, these demand

notes would be a very black cloud upon your credit, and your loans

would cost you vastly more, on account of the interest you would have

to pay, because they were still outstanding. I hope that you are not

hugging that sweet delusion that war is impossible.

_Third_: These United States Notes, as you are aware, are made legal

reserves for the national banks, who hold them against their deposits.

Now, if your credit goes to pieces, the credit of the banks will go

with it of course; because precisely to the extent that the banks hold

these debts of yours as reserves, they are driving gold out of the

country, and therefore instead of being better able to help you, they

will attack your credit by demanding gold from you for these old demand

debts.

You are also, of course, familiar with Gresham's law, so-called, under

the operation of which, the poorer money always drives out the better.

I assert without any fear whatever of successful contradiction, that if

you had paid off these United States Notes in 1879, you would not only

have saved $340,000,000 by so doing, but that today there would be in

the United States in our banks, and in circulation among the people,

$346,000,000 more gold than we now have. In other words, instead of our

gold amounting to $1,850,000,000, it would now amount to $2,196,000,000.

UNCLE SAM: Well, you have certainly demonstrated that I have made

some very expensive mistakes. Let's see just what the net result of

this blundering has been. I have lost $340,000,000 on account of the

greenbacks and I have lost the great advantage of having $346,000,000

more gold to further strengthen the commercial credit of the country;

and yet, I still owe every cent of these due bills and what seems to me

equally certain is this: that if I should get into a great war, these

very greenbacks will make me more trouble by injuring my credit in the

future to a much greater extent than they ever have done at any time

in the past. There is no doubt whatever about that. By the eternal,

something must be done to get me out of this apparently bottomless pit.

But you have not told us yet why these I.O.U.'s of mine, or United

States Notes, are not fit for currency, as you declare. You know that

you sort of hurt my feelings, and for half a minute I was fighting

mad, but as I said I am from forty-seven states, besides Missouri, and

therefore I am ready to be shown.

MR. BANKER: I am coming to their use as currency right now. There are

three distinct reasons why the United States Notes are a bad form of

currency.

_First_: Any Government issue of bills, or of I.O.U.'s such as these

are, must be very limited, if they are kept as good as gold.

_Second_: The United States Notes do not spring into existence in

connection with business transactions, as the right kind of a currency

always does.

_Third_: It costs those who use it, as currency, five times as much as

currency should.

It is precisely as Mr. Manufacturer over there asserted a moment ago.

Any system of currency that is of necessity limited in amount, and

fixed as these United States Notes must be from the very nature of

the case, breeds panics, because everybody realizing that the amount

is limited, begins to scramble for cash upon the first intimation

that there is any business trouble brewing. For this reason, they are

utterly unfit as a system of currency.

Again, a right currency system is the natural product of business, and

the amount of the currency will always rise and fall with the demands

of trade. This can never be the case with the United States Notes, and

they are on that account utterly unfit for currency.

And finally, certainly, if they cost the users of currency five times

as much as the right kind of currency would, then we should replace

them at once with the right kind of currency. Now, let me illustrate

and demonstrate this.

If, over at my bank, we are compelled to furnish an average of $10,000

in currency a week, our average expense for the year will undoubtedly

be $10,000 invested for that purpose. And if money is worth 6 per cent

interest, it will cost us $600 to supply that amount of currency. If

we can buy United States Notes as cheap as any other kind of currency,

and we should carry them in stock, they will cost us $600 per annum.

Now, our bank, being a country bank, we carry 15 per cent of all our

deposits to meet current demands. Is it not a perfectly simple and

self-evident fact that if instead of being compelled to buy this

$10,000 of United States Notes every week, and so keep $10,000 invested

all the year around at a cost to us of $600, the interest on $10,000,

we could convert $10,000 of our deposit debts into $10,000 note debts

of the bank it would only cost us 6 per cent on $1,500, the amount

we are carrying as reserve against our deposits of $10,000, or only

$90. In other words, we would save $510 on the transaction. Of course,

if we have to pay out $510 more in the one way than in the other, we

will have to get it back from Mr. Merchant here, Mr. Manufacturer, Mr.

Lawyer, Mr. Farmer and Mr. Laboringman; and if we should collect it

from Mr. Merchant and Mr. Lawyer, they will in turn take it out of Mr.

Farmer and Mr. Laboringman.

MR. FARMER: You bet they will. We always get the gaff in the end.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Where do I come in? I don't come in anywhere except to

carry the load, as usual. I come out at the little end of the horn, as

always heretofore.

UNCLE SAM: Well, fellows, you see, don't you, that everything gets

back, sooner or later, to the producer? He carries the load.

MR. MERCHANT: But we carry the worry.

MR. BANKER: I wish you did. You would have an easy time then, but--

MR. LABORINGMAN: You needn't say "but" to me. You have it on all of us.

There is no doubt about that. However, Mr. Banker, I'm not going back

on you, for you have helped me out of several tight pinches.

UNCLE SAM: Well, it does really look to me as if I had been living in a

fool's paradise. Those dear old greenbacks they have been about as much

of a fraud as the dollar of our daddies. I do declare this whole thing

makes me half sick. But if you are actually finding out what really

ails me, I'll get over that pretty soon, and, boys, if we stick to this

job, and play fair and honest, we'll have the best banking system in

the world yet, and don't you forget it.

But you forgot to tell me about the safest and best banking system in

the world because every bank note was secured by one of my Government

bonds. That's what they've been telling me, you know. Now, what about

that?

MR. BANKER: Well, I could not interfere with your confession that you

had been living in a fool's paradise, and dreaming dreams about making

something out of nothing, while your credit was in peril, and you were

losing hundreds of millions and furnishing the country a currency that

was costing the people five or six times as much as the right kind of

currency would.

Now, a word about your bond-secured bank note illusion, and I will

be through. Uncle Sam, you remember that during the war, you were

looking around in every direction to find some new method for obtaining

means to carry on the war. You had busted your credit wide open with

your United States Note issue, and the question was how to find some

new resource. Your Secretary of the Treasury, Mr. Chase, concocted

this scheme of giving the banks the right of issuing notes if they

purchased Government bonds, and deposited them to secure the payment

of the notes. It is very strange, but he did not get much from this

source, as there were only $98,896,488 of notes out when the war

closed. However, the scheme was started, and has been going ever since,

precisely as it was inaugurated, a bond investment scheme. The amount

of notes in circulation has never borne any direct relation to the

demands of trade, as you can see by the following facts: In 1880 the

notes outstanding amounted to $352,000,000, and in 1891, eleven years

afterwards, they amounted to only $162,000,000, or about $100,000,000

less, although the country was growing and business expanding all

the while. We ought always to expand our currency during the fall

months about $300,000,000, and we ought to contract it during the

succeeding months, or during the springtime just as much. But a careful

investigation shows that these bond-secured notes have decreased as

often in the fall months as they have increased, and have increased

in the spring months as often as they have decreased. This proves

conclusively that the amount of notes outstanding has never borne any

relation whatever to the requirements of trade. The scheme is today

precisely what it was when first concocted, purely a bond investment

affair.

UNCLE SAM: Well, well, now that is mighty strange, but my greatest

Chief Justice, John Marshall, pointed out the necessity of having

a currency directly related to the business of the country, when

upholding the constitutionality of the Act incorporating the second

United States Bank. He said: "The currency which it circulates by

means of its trade with individuals is believed to make it a more

fit instrument of government than it could otherwise be." One of my

presidents, James A. Garfield, used this language: "_No currency can

meet the wants of this country that is not founded on business._" Boys,

both of these great men must have referred to credit currency, and

declared that it was essential to our business.

MR. BANKER: Furthermore, Uncle Sam, these bond-secured Bank Notes

are indirectly just that much more of a burden resting upon the

United States Treasury, upon you, if you want to know the truth, as I

explained to you last Wednesday night.

The fact is, these bond-secured Bank Notes are only another form

of Government credit put into circulation through the disguise of

Government bonds.

Every single criticism and objection that I have made tonight to the

United States Notes are applicable equally to these bond-secured Bank

Notes.

_First_: For all banking purposes, economically speaking, they are

practically rigid and inflexible, at least so far as current needs go.

_Second_: These bond-secured notes do not spring into existence, or

into being, as checks and drafts do in connection with some business

transaction, but are tied up with a bond speculation.

_Third_: They cost those who use them as currency from five to six

times as much as the right kind of currency would.

_Fourth_: If we adopt the right kind of a currency system, it will set

free $750,000,000 of capital which is now tied up in these Government

bonds, and this vast sum which would be realized from the sale of the

bonds will assist to an amazing degree in supplying much needed capital

to the commerce of the country.

MR. MERCHANT: How is that?

MR. BANKER: The banks could then sell all the bonds now deposited to

secure these bond-secured Bank Notes. They amount to $750,000,000.

That these bond-secured Bank Notes are a monument of our stupendous

folly, and have been a curse to the business interests of the country,

I am sure no one here will attempt to deny.

MR. LAWYER: The Japanese, thinking that we were a smart people, copied

this bond-secured bank scheme from us, but immediately discovered that

it was worse than worthless and repudiated it. No one else has been

foolish enough to adopt it.

MR. BANKER: I challenge anyone here to urge a single reason in favor

of either the United States Notes, or the bond-secured Bank Notes,

which are only another form of United States Notes. No one can meet

the objections raised to them. In fact, there are two objections to

the bond-secured notes, in addition to those urged against the United

States Notes. First, as stated, they have tied up $750,000,000 in

the bonds. Second, they have proved such a successful delusion as to

prevent any sane legislation until sad experience has driven us to take

the matter up seriously and compelled us to act.

UNCLE SAM: Well, boys, so far as I am concerned, I am thoroughly

convinced that you don't want any of my I.O.U.'s for currency. Nor do

we want any bond-secured Bank Notes, which are really only another form

of my I.O.U.'s. But I am still from Missouri, as I have not yet been

convinced what we ought to do by way of a substitute. Mr. Banker has

told us something about credit currency, and he declares that it is the

only real thing in the way of currency.

Now, I suggest that we take that matter up next Wednesday night,

and decide definitely whether we want to adopt that principle, and

substitute that system, or some other. What do you all say to that?

MR. MERCHANT: I think that should be the programme. In the meantime,

let us all dig into the question and go to the very bottom of it, and

if possible stump Mr. Banker.

MR. BANKER: All right, gentlemen, I am ready for you, and if I don't

convince you that the only thing for us to do is to adopt a credit

currency system, I will retire in favor of anybody you name. Possibly

you'll select Nelson W. Aldrich.

UNCLE SAM: No, you won't do anything of the kind. We'll look around a

long time before we'll take him on. It is my candid opinion that he

don't know a thing on earth about the question. I have known Nelse

about thirty years. He came to my house after he had been engaged in

the grocery jobbing business, and he has been a jobber ever since. A

man who could stay in Congress for thirty years, declaring that we had

the best banking system in the world, would not recognize an economic

principle, on a cloudless day, walking down the middle of Pennsylvania

avenue at noon time. Now, as I said, Nelse has always been a jobber,

and he would detect a crooked political deal crawling down a gutter,

lizard-like, in the densest fog at midnight. He was prominent in a way

in my home town, but it was only as a broker in senatorial favors. He

kept books with the rest of his associates, his fellow senators. He was

the clearing house of the United States Senate. That's all. He would

be the very last man in the United States, the very last to join in

clear, intelligent, unselfish, patriotic thinking. He just couldn't do

it. Why, boys, he had rather go down a ram's horn than a gun barrel.

He likes the twisting sensation. We don't want him at any price. Mark

my word. What we want is honesty, intelligence, patriotism, unselfish

devotion to duty and some good hard work.

Let us hope that we shall find a way out.

Good Night.

FOURTH NIGHT

BANK CREDIT CURRENCY

UNCLE SAM: When we parted last Wednesday night, we had an understanding

that everybody would give all the time he could to looking up Credit

Currency. Now, I think before we take up that subject, it might be

well to recall and review what we've settled among ourselves up to the

present time.

_First_: We learned that gold is our standard of value.

_Second_: We all agreed that our money consisted of our gold coin alone.

_Third_: We agreed that our money, which consists of gold coin, is

identical in amount with our gold currency; that they are one and the

same thing.

_Fourth_: We found that we had at present a large amount of other

currency, consisting of subsidiary coins (including the silver dollar),

the United States Notes and our bond-secured Bank Notes.

_Fifth_: We came to the conclusion, however, after our last talk, that

neither the United States Notes nor the bond-secured Bank Notes were

fit for currency; and, in our quest for the best substitute possible,

Mr. Banker proposed a Credit Currency currently redeemed in gold

coin as the form of currency best suited to our condition. Indeed he

asserted that it was the only form of currency we should think of.

I have gone over the road we have traveled so far and called attention

to all the mile posts so that we should become perfectly familiar with

them; for unless there is a complete harmony between our conclusions

reached from time to time, our talks will in the end lead us to no

practical results.

At our last talk it was decided, you will remember, that both on

account of the peril to my credit, and because the United States Notes

and the bond-secured Bank Notes were unfit for currency, we should

tonight consider Credit Currency as a substitute.

MR. MERCHANT: Uncle Sam, I am more than gratified that you have called

our attention tonight to just those things we have agreed upon, because

unless we keep all these points constantly in mind, we will have

trouble in the end in reconciling our views. On the other hand, it has

began to dawn on me that possibly what we have always considered beyond

our comprehension may after all prove a comparatively simple matter,

because I have discovered, since our talks began, that truth here as

in all other subjects is simple when we arrive at and comprehend it.

Our great problem in this connection is to disentangle the great or

fundamental truths and make each one stand out in bold relief. So far,

I think we have succeeded to a remarkable degree.

MR. MANUFACTURER: We must have done so, for we have not yet struck a

single point upon which we have not unanimously agreed. Let us hope

that we shall be as successful in the future. At present, I must say

I am a little dubious about the results of tonight's discussion, for

I have run up against a snag or two, which I half fear will stump

Mr. Banker, when he tries to pull them. However, he has been pretty

successful so far in holding his own, and he may surprise us tonight.

MR. BANKER: I have no desire, or hope, of surprising you, but I have

perfect confidence in convincing all of you, that there is only one

system of currency for us to adopt, or even think of adopting, and that

is a pure Credit Currency.

Let us assume that two men, A and B, who are of equal and unquestioned

standing in some country town, start in the banking business at the

same time.

A begins by taking the deposits of his neighbors, and continues until

he has received $100,000, and has loaned the same out to the people

of the community. He now owes $100,000 subject to check, and he has

$100,000 owing to him, as he has loaned out all his deposits.

B starts a banking business, but upon an entirely different plan, or

basis. He takes no deposits in the ordinary way, but if anyone comes to

him desiring to borrow, or sell him promissory notes, he will lend his

credit, and take all good notes and checks offered him, and in exchange

give his own notes in such denominations and form as are suitable for

circulation as currency, until he has exchanged $100,000 of his notes

for $100,000 of the notes of the same people who have borrowed the

$100,000 from the other banker.

Now, this is not a strange thing for B to do, because the bankers of

Scotland did this for one hundred and forty years before they took

deposits subject to check.

Now, let us return to A and B. As a matter of course, some of these

notes of B will be deposited in A's bank, and B will have taken in some

of the checks on A's bank. At 10 o'clock each morning A and B meet;

A presents B's notes for redemption and B presents checks upon A for

redemption, and the one pays the other the difference. Sometimes the

balance is due to A and sometimes it is due to B. At the end of six

months or a year, it will be at a stand off. A has paid B as much as B

has paid A.

Now, can anyone of you men here tell me what difference there is in the

transactions of A and B, except this, that the notes of B amounting

to $100,000 payable to bearer on demand are outstanding, while the

deposits at A's bank amounting to $100,000 and payable to order are

outstanding. Those notes of B's amounting to $100,000 are a bank Credit

Currency. They are issued against, or upon B's credit. They pass from

person to person, from hand to hand and are currently redeemed every

day. While the deposits at A's bank amounting to $100,000 are against

A's credit, and the checks against them are redeemed every day. It is

perfectly evident that if the capital of A and B combined is ample

to meet the business requirements of that town, the form of credit

offered by them will also adapt itself to the peculiar needs of each

citizen. In other words, on a limited scale, you have a perfect banking

system in that country town; bank credit being given to each person in

precisely the form he wants it.

Now, let us go a step further. Let A and B unite and incorporate the

A-B Bank with a paid-up capital of $100,000, each man paying in $50,000

and the bank, so organized, taking over the liabilities.

The one bank could then furnish the people of that community their

deposit, or order credit, and their current credit, or currency at

exactly the same cost to the bank; for the amount of the reserve will

determine the cost of the note credit as well as the book credit. The

bank being a country bank will carry a 15 per cent reserve, or $15,000

cash, to protect the deposit of $100,000 subject to check, and also a

15 per cent reserve, or $15,000 cash, to protect the $100,000 of demand

notes outstanding. The actual cost to the bank in each case is 6 per

cent on the reserve of $15,000 or $900 per annum.

If this bank should be located in the cotton-growing section of the

country, and from August until January, the people needed more currency

than at any other time of the year to pay for picking and handling the

crop, and the customers of the bank came in and drew their checks for

$50,000 and asked the bank for currency for that amount, and the bank

should, as it ought to be able to do, under such circumstances change

its deposit debt of $50,000 to a note debt of $50,000, so that instead

of owing $100,000 in deposits, it owed only $50,000 in deposits, and

instead of owing only $100,000 in notes, it owed $150,000, would it

make any difference whatever to the bank except the trouble of making a

few book entries?

In the springtime, probably, the situation would be just the reverse.

The notes having served the convenience of the cotton-planters would be

returned to the bank by various people, and deposited to the credit of

the depositors, so that now the deposits are $150,000, and the notes

outstanding, or note debts, are only $50,000; the total debt of the

bank being precisely the same all the time, $200,000. It has made no

difference whatever to the bank, but the customers of the bank, and all

the people of that community, have been perfectly accommodated at the

smallest possible expense to them. Now, if that bank had been compelled

to go to some financial centre and buy that $150,000 of currency in the

form of United States Notes, bond-secured bank notes, or the notes of a

central bank, it would have cost the bank at the rate of 6 per cent per

annum on $150,000, or $9,000; whereas, it has only cost the bank 6 per

cent on the reserves carried to protect the $150,000, at the rate of

$15,000 for each $100,000, or six per cent on $22,500. The cost to the

bank you will see would be only $1,550, as against $9,000, if compelled

to buy the currency, or would result in an actual saving to the bank of

$7,450, an item, gentlemen, well worth saving.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, as I understand your contention from the

illustration you have just completed, it is this, that there is

absolutely no difference whatever, either in principle or in practice,

between a bank book credit and a bank note credit, except as a mere

matter of bookkeeping. That it is wholly immaterial whether there are

1,000 men walking about the streets of a town, each having a $10 bank

note of the local bank in their pockets, or a thousand men walking

about with check books from which they can issue 1,000 checks for $10

each. It is wholly a question of having a banking system that will

adjust itself every hour of the day, and every day in the year, to the

requirements of trade in that town, at the least possible expense to

the people.

MR. BANKER: You comprehend my contention perfectly.

MR. LAWYER: I will agree that your plan is structurally perfect to

accomplish this purpose; but, before I can concede that the plan is all

that can be desired, and all that we must insist upon having, I must

know that your plan contemplates the current redemption of these bank

notes in gold coin. For, as we have already agreed, our currency must

be as good as gold coin, and this can only be demonstrated by daily

gold coin redemption.

MR. BANKER: These bank notes or this Credit Currency will always be

interchangeable with the deposits of the bank of issue, and, like the

checks against the bank, will be daily redeemed over the counter of the

bank, and also at some clearing house centre. The life of the notes

will probably not exceed on the average thirty days. I hold that it is

the duty of the bank to supply its customers with exactly that form of

credit, either current credit in the form of notes, or book credits

subject to check, which their business demands, and that both forms of

credit must be kept as good as gold by giving gold if gold is demanded.

MR. LAWYER: With this point of current gold redemption covered and

settled, I am willing to agree that theoretically you have completely

convinced me. Now, what have you to offer in support of your theory by

the way of any practical illustrations?

MR. BANKER: I am glad that you have demanded illustration and proof

by way of banking experience; but, before taking up the historical

evidence in support of my condition, I want to define a Credit

Currency, so that you will have a concrete idea, if I may express

myself that way, in your mind.

I define a Credit Currency as follows: _a note issued by a bank against

its credit, without depositing United States Bonds, or any other kind

of security, to guarantee its payment, is bank Credit Currency_.

In speaking of the marvelous prosperity of Scotland, MacLeod used this

language in 1860 about the effect of Credit Currency in Scotland, where

it has now been in use 217 years.

"All these marvelous results which have raised Scotland from the lowest

state of barbarism up to her proud position in the space of 170 years

are the children of pure credit."

The great achievement of the Scotch system of credit notes is

exceedingly well stated by Mr. Charles A. Conant in these words:

1. It has provided Scotland with an elastic currency adapted to the

condition of her industries and adequate in volume to their changing

needs.

2. It has enabled the people to carry on numerous commercial and

agricultural transactions for which they could not have found the

necessary quantity of coin, and has economized the locking up of

capital in the precious metal.

3. It has made the use of notes of small denomination familiar and

popular, and has taught the people the distinction between bank notes

as the representatives of credit, and the precious metals as the

measures of value.

4. It has brought into active use the available savings and capital of

the country.

5. It has afforded an opportunity for entering upon business to

thousands of poor, but honest men, and enabled them to lay the

foundation of a comfortable home, and in many cases of a fortune.

6. It has convinced the people so conclusively of the value and safety

of the banking currency system that no serious panic has ever lasted

beyond a few days, or has ever affected any of the banks, except those

which were justly the subject of distrust.

Horace White, describing the Scotch system, says:

"Notes are issued in denominations of five dollars, or one pound, and

upwards. They are exchanged daily at the Edinburgh Clearing House,

and settlements are made between banks by drafts on London. The notes

remain in circulation on the average eighteen days after issue, the

whole circulation being redeemed twenty times each year. Noteholders

have a prior lien on the assets."

That is, if a bank should fail, the noteholders are paid first, and

before anyone else gets anything.

MR. MERCHANT: What is that? Did you say that the noteholder had a first

lien on the assets of the Scotch Bank: that is, that the noteholders

are paid in full before anyone else gets anything?

MR. BANKER: Yes, sir, and for the very best reasons in the world.

MR. LAWYER: Certainly, the noteholders should have a first lien upon

the assets of the bank issuing them, because bank notes are a public

convenience. Bank deposits, on the other hand, primarily are a private

convenience. It is a matter of public importance that bank notes

should flow through the channels of trade, pass from person to person

and hand to hand unquestioned by any member of the public, and have

ready as well as general acceptance. The man who selects his bank for

the purpose of making deposits has time to investigate and decide

deliberately which one he will choose. While a man in a transaction

must accept the currency of the country offhand. At all events, it is a

matter of the greatest public importance that he should do so without

hesitation, and yet be protected, be absolutely safe in doing so.

MR. MERCHANT: Come to think it over, I believe you are absolutely

right. Our present bank notes are made a first lien upon the assets of

the bank issuing them. We were talking about that the other day over

at the bank, and while I had never thought of it before, the cashier

of the bank explained the matter fully to me, and gave the same reason

for making bank notes a first lien that Mr. Lawyer has. When I told him

that I did not quite understand the thing as he did, he satisfied me

completely by using his own bank as an illustration.

He said, you will remember that we were a State Bank until about a

year ago, when we became a National Bank. Our capital of $100,000 is

all invested in this bank building which we occupy. Our deposits were

$500,000. We took $100,000 of our deposits and purchased $100,000 of

Government Bonds, which we deposited with the United States Government,

and received in return $100,000 bank notes which we have put out, or,

as we say, put into circulation. Now, since we actually took $100,000

of our deposits to buy the bonds with, and then placed the bonds up

as collateral, to guarantee the payment of $100,000 of notes, it is

perfectly clear that the noteholders will get their money, in case of

our failure whether anybody else gets anything or not.

I then asked him this question: Suppose, for the sake of the argument,

that the $100,000 of the United States Government Bonds should not sell

for $100,000? Say they sold for only $75,000, would the noteholders

lose the other $25,000, and he replied as follows:

"No, if the bonds should sell for only $75,000, the remaining $25,000

due the noteholders would be taken out of our assets, before any

depositor got a cent."

You see, therefore, gentlemen, that our National Bank Notes are a first

lien upon the assets of the banks that issue them, and that they will

always be paid in full, before the depositors get anything.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I am very glad this point came up, and has been

explained so completely and satisfactorily, because during the week

when I was studying up this question of a credit currency, that matter

came up, but I found no explanation or reasons given for making the

notes a first lien. It seems to me to be a fundamental principle that

they should be, and the reasons are the soundest for making them a

first lien. The bank note is a tool or instrument of trade for the

benefit of the public, and is of general importance, while the bank

deposit is a tool or instrument for the benefit of the individuals

composing that general public, and primarily of individual importance.

The distinction between the two must be very clear to all of you as it

is to me.

MR. LABORINGMAN: That is just as it should be. The working people

should always have a currency as good as gold, something that will not

turn to ashes during the night; that cannot deteriorate to the extent

of a single cent; for we are all practically compelled to take whatever

is in circulation, or comes along, in the way of currency. It should

certainly be as good as gold. I don't care how you fix it, but I do

insist upon that. I say that it is one of the very first duties of the

Government to the people; for, of all the ways of doing the laboring

masses out of their earnings, and cheating them, a depreciated currency

is positively the worst. Make your currency redeemable in gold, and so

safe that no toiler can lose by holding it any length of time.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I am quite sure that we all agree that not only

should the bank notes be currently redeemed in gold coin, but to make

them doubly safe, safe beyond any peradventure, they ought also to be a

first lien upon the assets of the bank issuing them.

During the week I read somewhere that the Scotch Banks had been in

operation 217 years, and that they did not start the deposit and

checking system until they had been in operation for 140 years. During

all that time they simply exchanged their notes for the notes of

the farmers, the shopkeepers, the manufacturers and anybody who was

entitled to credit.

MR. BANKER: Now, if you will allow me, I will produce some further

historical evidence.

The greatest financial genius that the United States has produced, and

one of the greatest the world has produced, drew the charter of the

first United States Bank upon which the second was modeled. Both of

these banks were pure credit currency banks, and were founded upon the

very soundest banking principles; but both of them were the victims of

political strife and party feud. No man who has ever lived more clearly

comprehended the principle of credit than did Alexander Hamilton.

The highest note issue of the first United States Bank was $5,900,000,

and deposits were $5,000,000.

The highest note issue of the second United States Bank was

$23,000,000, and the deposits were $2,600,000.

In 1800, under the inspiration of Napoleon Bonaparte, undoubtedly as

great an economist as soldier, the Bank of France was organized, and

is the most striking single example in all history of the bank credit

currency principle. It has to all intents and purposes always had

the right of unlimited note issue, as the limit is always fixed far

beyond the requirements of trade. The amount of the notes outstanding

are usually ten times as large as the deposits. The notes now exceed

$1,000,000,000, while the deposits are only about $100,000,000. In a

single week there has been a conversion of $75,000,000 of deposits

into notes, and a reconversion of a corresponding amount of notes into

deposits.

As a result of the destruction of the second United States Bank by a

veto of President Jackson, there were established in various states

of the Union banking institutions, largely modeled upon the work of

Hamilton. These institutions showed remarkable strength and rendered

most significant service to those sections of the country where located.

Probably the most noted of them all was the State Bank of Indiana,

organized in 1834, which continued its almost matchless career until

1866. It was a pure credit currency bank, marvelously suited to serve

the people of Indiana, under the conditions in which they lived. Its

capital was $3,300,000; its maximum of note issue was $5,700,000,

always currently redeemed in coin. In 1857, during the crisis when

every bank in the State of Indiana, and all the banks in New York,

except the Chemical, closed their doors, the State Bank of Indiana kept

on redeeming its notes in coin. This Indiana State Bank had thirteen

branches. The central office was at Indianapolis. Hugh McCullough,

afterwards one of the wisest secretaries of the Treasury we have ever

had, was President of the Fort Wayne Branch. He wrote this interesting

paragraph:

"Fort Wayne was three good days' ride from Indianapolis, mostly

through the woods. For fifteen years I made this journey on horseback,

and alone, with thousands of dollars in my saddle bag, without the

slightest fear of being robbed. I was well known upon the road, and it

was well known that I had money with me, and a good deal of it; and

yet, I rode unharmed through the woods, and stopped for the night at

the taverns and cabins on the way in perfect safety."

Another most signal success of the same credit currency principle was

the Bank Act of Louisiana, which was passed in 1842. It was a model,

not only for those times, but for these as well. All the banks had to

settle their balances every Saturday night in coin. In 1860 Louisiana,

as a result of this law, held more specie than any other state in the

Union except one. The very day that Gen. Butler took possession of New

Orleans, the banks were redeeming their notes in coin.

I might, if it were profitable, describe in detail the Bank of the

State of Ohio; the Banks of the State of Kentucky; the Banks of

Virginia; the Bank of the State of Missouri; the Bank of the State of

Iowa. Everyone of them were signal successes, and everyone of them

models worthy of imitation, and all of them were established and

operated successfully as credit currency banks.

But I want particularly to rivet your attention upon the Suffolk Bank

System of New England, which was purely the product of experience, and

I may say a perfect development of the law of evolution in banking.

MR. MERCHANT: My recollection is that the Suffolk System covered

all the six New England States, and that there were then over 500

banks in the system, with capital varying all the way from $25,000

to $700,000 each. Two other facts must be kept constantly in mind in

this connection; they are these: 1st, the combined authorized note

issue of these 500 banks was $131,000,000, absolutely unlimited to all

intents and purposes; 2d, there was then no means of communication or

transportation except the stage lines and horseback mail carriers.

There were no telephones in those days, nor telegraph lines, nor even

railroads.

MR. BANKER: I am more than pleased, Mr. Merchant, that you have

brought out these points, before I proceeded to explain what actually

happened in the course of the development of what I regard as the most

marvelous exhibition the world has yet furnished us with, what in

principle was practically a perfect banking system, and what was in

practice as nearly perfect as any human institution could be under the

circumstances.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Well, Mr. Banker, that is unqualified, literally

unmeasured praise. If we ever had so good a banking system actually in

operation in this country, I don't see why we did not have sense enough

to keep it. I hope you will be good enough to tell us why we lost it.

MR. BANKER: That is a very important and most pertinent question, and

certainly most natural that you should ask it. I should have covered

that point before, but it will do just as well now.

Uncle Sam, you will remember that when you passed the National Bank Act

in order to get the advantage of all the bank note circulation and so

increase the sale of United States Bonds, you put a tax of 10 per cent

on all bank notes for the purpose of preventing any bank from issuing

them, except National Banks. The result was that you killed the State

Bank of Indiana and all the other banks to which I have referred, which

were then issuing notes in the United States, including the 500 banks

in the Suffolk System.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I ought to say right here, before you go on, that

the 10 per cent tax on Bank Note issues, while doing a world of harm,

precisely as you say, did some good, too, because it prevented a lot

of banks that were not properly organized, and were not compelled to

redeem their notes in coin, from issuing a good deal of worthless

paper, or comparatively worthless paper. It is usually known as "red

dog," or "blue pup," or some other kind of dog paper.

There are two things that resulted from the National Bank Act that

I think should not be overlooked, though the act may have proved an

economic failure. It gave us a uniform currency throughout the country,

and it was of equal value everywhere, passing without charge, and at

no time worth less than the credit of the Government, or the current

value of the United States Note.

Therefore, if we are wise enough to take advantage of these two

important results, our experience will not be wholly in vain. That is,

we want a uniform currency throughout the country, in all the different

states, passing in at every bank window, at face value, without charge,

and unquestioned by anybody, because currently redeemed in gold coin

everywhere.

MR. BANKER: These interruptions have been splendid and I thank you for

them. You fellows have undoubtedly been studying up on this question,

as we used to say at school, "You've been cramming up."

Now, returning to the Suffolk System, I want to assert there is not a

question that can be asked by anyone, nor a point that can be made by

anyone in favor of a banking system, that the Suffolk System does not

answer and illustrate and exemplify.

Let me outline the situation:

1. It covered six different states.

2. It covered a large territory.

3. The facilities for communication were bad. Some parts of New England

were as far from Boston then as San Francisco is now.

4. There were 500 individual, independent banks.

5. There was no branch banking.

6. The permissive note issue to all intents and purposes was unlimited.

The possible amount of issue was $131,000,000, but the maximum amount

of notes out at any time did not reach 50 per cent of this total, while

the average amount did not exceed 33 per cent of it.

7. The Bank Notes of the Suffolk System were universally accepted at

par throughout New England.

8. They were redeemed every day at Boston, in coin by the Suffolk Bank.

9. They were accepted in all commercial centers of the West, Buffalo,

Cincinnati, Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Louis at a premium of from 1 to

5 per cent, because redeemed at Boston _in coin._

The Suffolk Bank was the clearing house for all the bank notes of

New England, and they were accepted at par, and redeemed in coin if

demanded.

Horace White says:

"It was the underlying principle of the Suffolk Bank system that any

bank issuing circulation should keep itself at all times in a condition

to be able to redeem it; that it should measure the amount by its

ability so to do; and that the exercise at any time of the right to

demand specie of a bank for its bills was something of which the

issuing bank had no right to complain....

"Under the Suffolk System of Bank Note redemption specie was seldom

asked for, but it was always paid when demanded; _the metallic reserve

was the touchstone of the whole business_."

The following is Mr. White's description of the operation of the bank:

"In 1824 two clerks could do all the work. In 1855 seventy were

required, and the redemptions reached $400,000,000 per year. As

the circulation of the New England banks at that time was about

$40,000,000, the whole amount was redeemed ten times each year, or

about once in five weeks.

"Any person engaged in a legitimate trade in any part of New England

could exchange his promissory note, running 60 or 90 days, for the

notes of a bank with which he could pay the wages of his employees, or

buy the materials for his industry in any part of the United States or

Canada. The notes would remain in circulation about five weeks, and

then find their way to the Suffolk Bank, where they were offset by the

notes of other banks which took their rise in the same way. The man

whose promissory note the bank had discounted, and by means of which it

had put its own notes in circulation, had meanwhile sold his products.

If he had sold them in Boston, his draft on the Boston merchant would

pay his note at the local bank, and this would enable the latter to

keep its balance good at the Suffolk. If he had sold them in New York

or Chicago, he would get his pay in a draft on Boston, which would

answer the same end. If he had sold them at home, and had received New

England Bank Notes in exchange for them, the local bank could use these

to keep its balance good at the Suffolk. New England trade was carried

on by an endless chain of offsets and book balances at the Suffolk

Bank. The security for the notes consisted of the bank's assets, and

the banker's moral character and business sagacity. Both notes and

deposits rested upon the same security that deposits rest upon now, and

the volume of both was determined by the wants of trade."

The interplay of bank book credit and bank note credit under the

Suffolk System in the panic of 1857 is nowhere equaled in the history

of banking; and that demonstration of the perfect adaptability of bank

credit to the most sensitive, and at the same time the most extreme

situation that can possibly arise, leaves no question unanswered as to

its fitness under all circumstances to meet the requirements of the

people.

A year before the panic, the note issue stood at $50,000,000, and the

deposits were $32,000,000. As a result of the panic, there was an

exigent demand for currency, and the note issue rose from $50,000,000

to $56,000,000, and the deposits fell at the same time from $32,000,000

to $25,000,000, showing a conversion of about $6,000,000 of book

credits into note credits, or of deposits into currency.

A year afterwards, when this exigent demand for currency had subsided,

and the reaction had set in, the notes fell from $56,000,000

to $35,000,000, and the deposits increased from $35,000,000 to

$46,000,000. In other words, $21,000,000 of notes were deposited and

took the form of deposits, subject to check.

I do not need to state the fact, except for the purpose of calling your

attention to it, that this currency did not cost the people of New

England any more than deposits; for the two were constantly changing

places with each other, strictly in accordance with the needs of trade.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, I think we are all under the very greatest

obligation to you for this elaborate explanation. This splendid

illustration, yes, absolute demonstration of the perfect adaptation

of bank credit to our currency needs. I want to compliment you upon

another thing, and that is, your position that it is the bank's

business to make provision for coin redemption. What do we have our

banks for except to furnish us credit in just the form we need it to

carry on our business, and to keep that credit, in whatever form it

takes, just as good as gold. That is the natural business of a bank. I

never caught on to that fact before, and therefore could not appreciate

it.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Mr. Banker, I have been greatly interested. Now, if

that plan worked so perfectly in New England, I cannot see for the life

of me, why every other section of the country cannot work out the same

system. If the New Englander could coin currency out of bank credit,

based on codfish and cloth, why cannot the western man coin currency

out of bank credit, based on cattle, cotton and corn?

The crux of the whole matter, the very heart of the thing, the vital

part is, that the bank be ready to redeem its notes in gold. Why

shouldn't it, that's the question?

MR. BANKER: Well, it should, that is the answer to your question, and

the bankers around every natural financial center in the United States

should get together, and form just what those 500 bankers had in New

England before the war, a perfect banking system of their own.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Manufacturer, that's sound and looks mighty good to

me. Do you see any objection to it, any flaw in it?

MR. MANUFACTURER: No, I do not, except to persuade the people, as Mr.

Banker has persuaded and converted us. Of course we will be up against

some legal difficulties, won't we, Mr. Lawyer?

MR. LAWYER: I imagine that we shall have no serious difficulties about

the legal questions involved, if we can persuade Congress. You see

we are up against Congress and for about every thought the average

Congressman has concerning a question of this kind, he has several

about how he is going to get back into Congress at the next election;

that's the real difficulty.

UNCLE SAM: Well, we'll see about that when we get this worked out, and

we'll put it up to them before election, and find out where they stand.

They must study this question just as we have, and if they can't show

us a better way, they will have to come over, or they won't get over,

that is all there is about that.

MR. BANKER: Well, gentlemen, when it comes to putting up an argument to

the Congressman, we will shove the Canadian currency system under his

nose, and keep it there until he gives in.

MR. MERCHANT: Are the Canadians using this credit currency system?

MR. BANKER: That's what they are. They started by copying the

Massachusetts Bank Act, as it existed before the war, and have gone on

making some changes from time to time since. The banks are authorized

to issue regularly an amount of currency equal to their capital.

The amount of capital has not been increased in proportion to their

business, because there are only a few banks there now, 27 in all, with

about 2,000 branches.

Here is a chart I had prepared to show you, because it illustrates so

perfectly how the currency expands and contracts every Fall. You see

that in the month of October every year they have an increase of about

$3.80 per capita over the minimum amount, and that just as soon as the

crops are disposed of, the currency again takes the form of a deposit.

[Illustration: This diagram demonstrates that the Canadian bank notes

adapt themselves every year, every month, every day, with unvarying

precision, to the ever changing demands of trade.]

_Total circulation of the chartered banks of Canada for each month of

1912 to Nov. 30th._

January $88,065,521

February 88,920,598

March 95,918,404

April 95,145,371

May 93,819,333

June 102,011,848

July 95,827,534

August 101,501,270

September 104,334,287

October 110,696,877

November 115,473,098

Maximum issue 115,473,098

Minimum issue 88,065,521

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Amount of Expansion $27,407,577

Population of Canada 7,204,838

Per Capita Expansion $3.80

Same expansion in the United States

would amount to $380,000,000

Under present conditions we do not have any note expansion whatever.

Not one single dollar. Every "Fall" we have a tragedy, because we are

compelled to use our reserve money to meet the increased demands for

currency.

The above figures correspond in their _expansion and contraction_ with

the figures for many years previous, with one significant change in

the date of maximum circulation, which has changed with the later farm

demands due to the tremendous development in the great north-western

territory. No stronger proof could be added to the marvelous way in

which this bank credit currency automatically adjusts itself to any and

every condition as it arises.

This currency goes to the Clearing House every day, precisely as the

checks and drafts do, for redemption. And in those cities where there

are no Clearing Houses, the banks present the notes they take in, to

each other, and the notes are redeemed every day by the respective

banks issuing them.

MR. MERCHANT: Gentlemen, isn't it marvelous how that currency adapts

itself to the demands of the Canadian crop moving period? Why, if we

had such a system working here, you would have an increase of currency

every Fall exactly equal to our demands, probably $300,000,000. I have

heard the amount variously estimated from $200,000,000 to $300,000,000.

At all events, this principle would give us exactly the amount needed

to meet the demands of trade.

MR. BANKER: That is precisely what would happen, and there would be no

shipping currency to and fro, backward and forward from New York to

Chicago and St. Louis, and then from these cities to a thousand other

points; and then when the crops had been moved the currency must be

shipped from the thousand points to St. Louis and Chicago and then on

again to New York. The banks in every locality would create their own

currency according to their respective needs, and at a cost of about

one-fifth of what it costs them today.

As the matter now stands, gentlemen, if I want $10,000 currency I

bundle up $12,000 or $15,000 of my commercial paper, and take it to

my correspondent, and get the currency by giving my bank's note, and

leaving the $12,000 or $15,000 of paper as collateral. Now, if you

should ask my correspondent upon what he had loaned me $10,000 he would

say, "my bank's credit and the commercial paper I left with him." But,

gentlemen, why could I not issue $10,000 of my bank notes against my

bank credit, and keep the $12,000 or $15,000 of commercial paper?

Certainly if my bank's credit and the commercial paper were good enough

for my correspondent bank to let me have $10,000 upon, they ought to

be good enough to issue my own notes upon. The present situation is

simply absurd and most troublesome, as well as most expensive.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I agree with you, it certainly is. I was talking the

other day with a Congressman about the Canadian Currency system, and

he said, "yes, it works fine up there, but they have a branch banking

system up there, and only 27 banks." Well, I said, it works just as

well in France with one bank. It has been working in Scotland just as

well with 12 banks for 217 years. It worked in Indiana with one bank

and 17 branches. It was just as efficient and successful in Louisiana

under a General Bank Act, where several banks were incorporated. And

it worked in New England under the Suffolk system with 500 individual

independent banks--why won't it work here? All he could say was, "Well,

I don't know."

UNCLE SAM: Pinhead. Didn't know the difference between a principle and

a fact, and he didn't even know the fact.

Now, boys, I am completely satisfied and if any one here is not, let

him speak up, or forever hold his peace. I believe you must all be

satisfied.

You must all be on time next Wednesday night so that we will not have

to wait as we did tonight.

Good Night.

FIFTH NIGHT

WHAT IS EXCHANGE?

UNCLE SAM: Now, boys, let us see just what we have settled during the

four nights we have been talking this matter over.

The first night we learned that gold was the standard of value, the

whole world around.

The second night we agreed that gold coin was the only money we had.

The third night we agreed that the only currency that we had and

ought to have was gold coin, the foundation and redeemer of all other

currency and our token or subsidiary coins. We came to the conclusion

and unanimously agreed that neither the United States Notes nor

bond-secured bank notes were fit for currency, because not related to

business transactions in their origin, that they were unresponsive to

the demands of trade, and were five times as expensive as the right

kind of currency.

The fourth night we agreed that the only true or correct currency was a

credit bank note, currently redeemed in gold coin.

_In other words, we agreed that gold was our standard of value, gold

coin our money, and that our currency should consist of gold coin, the

subsidiary coins and bank credit currency._

Tonight we want to find out, if we can, what Exchange is. This is a

mighty important question for probably 90 per cent or nine-tenths of

all our business is transacted in some form of Exchange. Mr. Lawyer, I

want to put it up to you first. What is Exchange?

MR. LAWYER: Well, Uncle Sam, the best definition I can give, is to take

one thing for or in the place of another. It is illustrated in a way

by the old saw, "a fair exchange is no robbery." That describes the

act of exchange, but I imagine that what you have in mind is the system

or practice of exchange, as carried on today. That practice or system

is only a multiplication of transactions where one man takes one thing

in place of another. In this connection it means to take one credit in

place of another credit; to take one debt in place of another debt. As

now developed and applied to the commerce of the world, I would say

that _the science of exchange is to substitute one credit for another

credit, or to make one debt pay another debt_.

A debt is what is due from one person to another person. I have a

deposit with Mr. Banker there, and I owe Mr. Farmer $20 for a load of

potatoes; if I draw a check upon Mr. Banker for $20 in favor of Mr.

Farmer, and hand it to him, I have paid my debt to Mr. Farmer with Mr.

Banker's debt to me.

MR. MERCHANT: Now, Mr. Lawyer, just hold on a minute until I find out

a thing or two before we go any further. In fact, I am sure everyone

here would like in the outset to find out the same things, except

possibly Uncle Sam, who ought to know everything, and is probably

omniscient, Mr. Banker, who deals in these things, and you, Mr. Lawyer,

who are presumed to know about them, and must know them, as a matter of

necessity in your practice. What I want to know is:

1. What is a promissory note?

2. What is a check?

3. What is a draft?

4. What is an acceptance?

5. What is a bill of exchange?

Until we know precisely what these various terms signify, or mean in

banking, when put into use, we shall soon be so far out at sea that we

will not know what we are saying, because we do not know the meaning of

the words we are using. This will be true of some of us at least. We

must familiarize ourselves with these words, or terms.

MR. BANKER: If you will allow me, I will try and explain and tell you

what these various terms mean, and what use we make of these several

instruments in writing.

_First_: A Promissory Note is a written promise to pay some one a sum

of money. It may be either to pay it immediately, or on demand, or at

some future day; to pay it either with or without interest; or to pay

it at some particular place.

MR. MERCHANT: It is just a written acknowledgment of a debt, isn't it?

MR. BANKER: It is a written acknowledgment of a debt, coupled with a

promise to pay it. If A owes B $1,000, and gives his note for that

amount, and B sells the note to C, the note has become exchange. It is

not the usual form of what is called exchange, but is nevertheless just

as truly exchange; for suppose that C owes A $1,000, he can then cancel

the debt by delivering him the note for $1,000. C has paid his debt to

A with A's debt to B.

_Second_: A check is a written order on a bank to pay money on demand.

It may be drawn to cash, or it may be drawn to bearer, or it may be

drawn to the order of some one. If A owes B $1,000 and A has a deposit

at a bank for that amount, A can cancel his debt to B by giving him a

check on the bank for $1,000. The check is exchange, though not in the

usual form of what is known as exchange, for A has canceled his debt to

B by giving B the bank's debt to him.

_Third_: A draft is a written order from one person to another to pay a

third person a sum of money.

An acceptance is to write across the face of a draft, payable at a

future time, the word "accepted," and the signature of the person

accepting it.

If A is owing B $1,000 and C is owing A $1,000, the debt to B can be

paid by A's draft upon C. The draft is identical in every respect with

the check, the difference is in form only, and the use of them. A check

is only used when the order to pay money is upon a bank. A draft may

be, and often is used when the order to pay money is upon a bank. A

check, properly or correctly speaking, is never used in an order to pay

money upon an individual or corporation, but a draft is invariably used

in such cases.

The transactions are identical in effect, though the conditions, or

circumstances, are different. Both the check and the draft are exchange.

_Fourth_: When a draft has been accepted, it becomes the promissory

note of the one accepting it, as he promises to pay it on the day named

in the draft. An accepted draft is only another form of a promissory

note, for if A owes B $1,000, and B draws upon A for that amount, and A

accepts the draft, A is in precisely the same position as he would have

been if he had sent B his promissory note for $1,000.

In the banking world a draft, after it has been accepted, is often

called and known as an "Acceptance."

_Fifth_: A Bill of Exchange in its ordinary or usual sense, is an order

of one person upon another to pay a third person a sum of money.

MR. MANUFACTURER: That is precisely what you said a draft was.

MR. BANKER: Just wait a moment, please, until I finish, and you will

note the difference. The Bill of Exchange is the medium of settling

accounts or debts between parties residing at a distance from each

other, without the intervention of money by exchanging checks or drafts.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Then they are identically the same thing except a

bill of exchange acquires its name from the fact that it settles debts

at a distance.

MR. BANKER: That is the exact distinction, if one is to be made at

all, and I think it will be well for us to make this distinction to

save confusion in our conversation, although in the ordinary and usual

language of the street, or the business world, the terms, or words,

"draft," "acceptance" and "Bill of Exchange" are used indiscriminately

the one for the other.

If the definition of Mr. Lawyer stands, and I think it is a very good

one, when he said "the science of exchange is to make one debt pay

another debt," the science of Bills of Exchange is to make one debt

pay another debt at a distant point. This is not a distinction fully

without a difference, because it helps us to classify the transactions

and distinguish them in a way as we go along.

A simple illustration is this: A, who lives in Boston, owes B, who

lives in San Francisco, $1,000, and C, who lives in San Francisco, owes

D, who lives in Boston, $1,000. B and D could exchange drafts with each

other; then B and D could collect each other's drafts. But B could sell

his draft on A to C for $1,000 and C could pay his debt of $1,000 to

D by forwarding him the draft on A. D would then collect the draft on

A. It will be seen at once that this transaction has saved the expense

of sending $1,000 in money from Boston to San Francisco, and also of

sending $1,000 in money from San Francisco to Boston at great expense

by express. This transaction between Boston and San Francisco is known

and called a transaction in Domestic Exchange.

If A, who lives in New York, owes B, who lives in London, $1,000, and

if C, who lives in London, owes D, who lives in New York, $1,000, B,

the resident of London, can draw on A in New York, and sell the draft

to C, who resides in London, and C could pay his debt to D, who resides

in New York, by forwarding B's draft to D, who resides in New York.

D could then collect the draft from A. It is perfectly clear that by

means of this transaction, the expense of sending $1,000 in gold from

New York to London, and also the expense of sending $1,000 in gold from

London to New York, has been saved.

This draft would be Foreign Exchange, because the cities are in two

different countries.

MR. MERCHANT: According to your illustration, Mr. Banker, if our

sales of cotton, grain and meat to Great Britain should amount to

$1,000,000,000 a year, and the sales of Great Britain to us of woolens,

silks, cotton and cloth and other manufacturies should amount to

$1,000,000,000, we would not have to transmit a single dollar of gold

either way, because the debts would just cancel each other. If the

debtors in the United States could find out who the debtors in Great

Britain were, then they could exchange debts with each other. The debts

of the two countries would just offset each other.

MR. BANKER: That is absolutely true, and it is entirely possible that

the $2,000,000,000 worth of goods in the two countries could be bought

and sold without moving a single dollar's worth of gold either way

across the Atlantic.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Well, that is just what we want to do and save the

expense and trouble of transmitting the money, and it is up to you, Mr.

Banker, to explain just how we are to accomplish this trick or feat,

because it will save a tremendous expense, if this can be done.

MR. BANKER: Yes, and will bring other advantages to the business

interests of the country of almost incalculable importance, as we shall

soon see. Now, the question is how to gain these ends. Two things

must be accomplished in this connection, if we are to profit by every

advantage that can possibly be taken in our trade with each other, as

well as in our trade with other countries.

_First_: The Bills of Exchange must be of such a high character

as to invite those, who need them to pay debts with, to take them

unhesitatingly.

_Second_: The Bills of Exchange must become known to those who may want

to use them to pay debts with, instead of shipping the actual money.

MR. MERCHANT: Of course, you gentlemen are aware that our debts abroad

are being settled in just this way today to a very large extent,

and I do not think that you need worry very much about the Bills of

Exchange not becoming known to those who need them to pay debts with,

if they are made of such a high character as to command a market, for

the market will at once develop and make itself felt. That is, I mean

a general market for Bills of Exchange of unquestioned character.

The only thing for us to do is to give our Bills of Exchange such a

standing as to command ready and general acceptance in the commercial

world. How can we do that?

MR. BANKER: That can be accomplished in a very simple, easy and natural

way, if we will only adopt it. Let me illustrate what I mean.

Today, A, living in this country, sells a bill of goods, say for

$50,000, to some one in Great Britain; the purchaser in Great Britain

arranges with his bank to accept a 60 or 90 day bill drawn on it by the

American shipper. Such drafts are drawn on well-known bankers, and when

accepted become virtually a time-deposit at the bank, and therefore

can always be disposed of at the lowest current rate of interest. This

arrangement is a very great advantage to the English business man, as

it enables him to use the high credit of the bank in carrying on his

business.

At the present time our National Banks are not authorized to accept

drafts made in this way, but if they were authorized to do so, the

credit of our banks would be given to the drafts made by one business

man upon another whether the drafts were domestic or foreign. Such an

obligation is the most desirable one for a bank or an investor to hold,

as a temporary investment for the following reasons:

_First_: The draft arises out of a transaction where goods passing from

buyer to seller are equal in value to the face of the draft. The goods

are actually in transit, and the draft is economically a title to the

goods.

_Second_: The seller is invariably good, or at least thought to be.

_Third_: The buyer is invariably good, or thought to be.

_Fourth_: The bank accepting the draft is invariably good, or believed

to be. But above and beyond that no bank will engage in such a

transaction, without making itself absolutely safe in some way.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, if we should adopt that principle in this

country, we would at once make every dollar's worth of goods in

transit, or ready for shipment, a liquid asset, practically a cash

asset, as we shall see, for the American merchant and manufacturer;

because a large amount of capital would at once be attracted to this

field for steady employment, or temporary investment.

MR. MANUFACTURER: There is nothing so essential to relieve the constant

strain upon individual credit and mobilize the really liquid wealth

of the country, as the creation of the kind of paper you have just

described. Think of it for a moment; there are the goods in transit,

the shipper, the buyer and the banker back of the paper that will be

coming due within the next sixty or ninety days. You can hardly imagine

anything safer, and more quickly convertible into cash.

Money available for the purchase of such paper would come from many

sources, among them the following:

_First_: Corporations would immediately be organized to deal in such

paper.

_Second_: All strong business houses, merchants and manufacturers would

prefer to hold such paper instead of stocks or bonds, for their surplus

funds during their slack seasons.

_Third_: Bankers of all classes, both in the country and city, would

find such paper preferable to any other form of investment for a

secondary reserve, and for their surplus funds during slack periods in

their respective sections.

_Fourth_: If acceptances are limited as they should be to goods in

transit, or on the road to consumption, the adoption of this principle

will mark, indeed will accentuate, the strong, the fundamental

difference between liquid assets and the more fixed forms of

investment, such as bonds and stocks. Banking capital employed in

this way can far more readily adjust itself to the exigent demands of

liquidation in the case of a panic, or a commercial crisis.

_Fifth_: Undoubtedly, to a very large degree, foreign capital would be

attracted to our market for this kind of paper, because its strength

and liquidity has already been proved to the bankers and capitalists on

the other side of the Atlantic. And whenever capital was required, the

rate of interest would be such as to be inviting. In other words, the

rates of interest would rise, correspondingly with our needs, and the

entire commercial world would be our possible market for the commercial

paper representing the economic title to the five or six billions

of finished goods that are always passing from the producer to the

consumers in this country, and to the consumers abroad.

MR. BANKER: Undoubtedly, we should soon have right here a general

market to take care of all this kind of paper; and it ought to become

soon the strongest and broadest market in the world for this kind of an

investment, considering our vast commercial resources. All of our Bills

of Exchange would be drawn in dollars, not francs, marks or pounds

sterling, and we would put upon them the stamp of the eagle, and not

the lion and the unicorn.

UNCLE SAM: I like that. It stirs my blood, warms the cockles of my

American heart. That's business.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I understand that for such Bills of Exchange, those

accepted by banks, there has grown up in London, Paris, Berlin,

Amsterdam and many other European centers, a large market, known as a

discount market. Indeed, that this form of paper constitutes a very

essential feature of the commercial transactions of all European

financial centers.

MR. BANKER: That is true, and unless we follow them and adopt the

same principle, and facilitate in the same way the protection,

transportation and distribution of our commodities, needed for current

consumption, we will continue to work under a very great handicap, as

compared with our foreign competitors. Moreover, we will again find

it difficult, if not impossible, to adjust ourselves to those periods

of contraction which must come from time to time, without almost

immeasurable losses, and the consequent stagnation in business that is

sure to follow.

MR. MERCHANT: I appreciate what Mr. Banker has just said. I am

confident from my observation during the panics of 1893 and 1907 that

our greatest injury came from the shock to business due to the fact

that there seemed to be no real relief from the strain until there was

an actual breakdown all along the line. Now it is evident that if a

large amount of capital were employed in the economic titles, as it

were, to our consumable commodities in the form of Bills of Exchange

and the market for them extended to the financial centers of Europe, as

seems probable, indeed certain, whenever the rate of interest was high

enough, we should pass through any future strain, without the usual

tragic results. Of course this added facility to the investment of our

Bills of Exchange will not be a cure-all, but it will certainly correct

an obvious and a very great defect in our present method of doing

business.

MR. BANKER: Certainly it will not be a cure-all, because it is only an

added facility in our credit system, and therefore must be provided

for precisely as a corresponding amount of loans should be. You see,

don't you, that an acceptance by a bank is practically the same thing

as a loan to the buyer and seller of the goods jointly, or to one of

them with the other as an endorser. The only difference is this: that

if a loan is made the money would be placed at once to the credit of

one of them, subject to his check, while the acceptance is an agreement

to pay the amount on a future day. The bank must take precisely the

same precaution in securing or protecting itself, and should carry

identically the same reserve against acceptances that it does against

its deposits subject to check.

MR. LAWYER: That is true, for if the buyer and seller fail to make

good, and meet the draft, the bank must pay it precisely as a bank must

pay the checks of its depositors, even though the borrowers of those

deposits do not pay their promissory notes when due. In reality and

in fact the results are identically the same, therefore I agree with

you, Mr. Banker, that a bank should carry the same reserve against its

acceptance liability as against its deposit liability.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Mr. Banker, have Bills of Exchange and bank

acceptances been used very long, or are they something quite new and

modern?

MR. BANKER: The Lord only knows how ancient they are. However, it is

undoubtedly true that the use of them, especially acceptances, has

grown enormously in recent years. For it is now a universal practice at

all financial centers throughout Europe.

The bank liabilities of the whole world were only $16,000,000,000 in

1890, while today they are upwards of $50,000,000,000, possibly as much

as $55,000,000,000. This almost appalling increase is due not only

to the growth of international trade and the expansion of the credit

system in foreign trade, but to domestic production as well. Of course

an acceptance is the natural counterpart of a Bill of Exchange.

Bills of Exchange, or something accomplishing the same purpose, were

in use among the Greeks. The history of the subject is buried in much

obscurity.

It is stated upon high authority that among the bankers of the Roman

world there existed a certain method or means of effecting payments

abroad.

MR. LAWYER: Here is what one author, Wilbur Aldrich, says:

"From the beginning of the Christian era the Jews became dispersed

and, shut out from other trades and occupations, became usurers, or

money-lenders at interest, a business which by the Canon law was

forbidden to Christians. The Jews were united by such strong ties that

their business assumed almost a corporate aspect. They bought, sold and

transferred for collection part of the many debts constantly owed to

them, and became practically an international exchange community. Their

practice gradually evolved the Bill of Exchange.

"Rivals of the Jews, and more given to money changing, Lombard and

other Italians naturally also became exchangers. Many large Italian

houses included whole families, and had branches in many cities widely

separated. The financiers from each city in Italy and from associated

leagues of such cities, frequently united for exchange purposes.

Italian finance thus grew into a great system of international

exchange. Among the great fairs of the Middle Ages, under the influence

of the Italians, some became connected chiefly with the business of

exchange; Piazenca, the most noted of the fairs of exchange, was

practically a clearing house for foreign exchanges.

"The Bill of Exchange was already in frequent use in the middle of the

thirteenth century, but at this time its form was that of a document

certified before a notary. At the end of the fourteenth century, it had

approached the form now in use. It should be added that the Bill of

Exchange was drawn only by the money changers and the bankers that had

branches or agents.

"The business of bill broking grew up in England towards the end of

the fourteenth century. The issuance of Bills of Exchange, based upon

genuine business sales of goods, was recognized as a legitimate source

of gain by the Canonists; or the ecclesiastic lawyers."

MR. BANKER: You _see_, Mr. Manufacturer, from what Mr. Lawyer has just

read, Bills of Exchange, in practically the same form that we now have

them, have been in use about 500 years. However, we are not now so

much interested in a post mortem of the Bill of Exchange as we are in

its place in our commerce. What we are most interested in is, just

what part the Bill of Exchange is playing in the trade and commerce of

today. What we want to get clearly fixed in our minds is what it is,

and what it does, as distinguished from other instruments of trade.

_First_: For the purpose of a definite idea of just what exchange is,

let us remember that exchange includes every written promise or order

to pay money that is used to substitute one credit for another credit,

or to make one debt pay another debt.

_Second_: That Bills of Exchange (sometimes called drafts, or

acceptances, indiscriminately) are promises or orders to pay money

which are used to substitute one credit for another credit, or to make

one debt pay another debt, at some distant city. If the cities are in

the same country, the Bills of Exchange are called Domestic Exchange.

If the cities are in different countries, the Bills of Exchange are

called Foreign Exchange.

_Third_: Let us agree, gentlemen, that so far as we are concerned we

should not, and shall not, consider the acceptance of any draft by a

bank as legitimate, unless the draft has grown out of an actual sale

and shipment of goods. In other words, what I want to impress upon you

is that if the draft is the economic title to goods, which are moving

from the producer to the consumer, the liability of a bank upon an

acceptance is reduced to a minimum. Acceptances of drafts growing out

of sales and shipments of goods will never be a source of dangerous

expansion, because they will liquidate, or pay themselves out, as the

goods will be wanted to eat, to wear, to use, or to go into other

manufactures, almost immediately.

_Fourth_: I want to nail one fact down right here so that no one of

you will ever overlook it, or forget it; and that fact is this: An

acceptance is just as much a bank liability as a deposit subject to

check, for if the seller and buyer, or the drawer and the drawee, don't

pay the debt on the day named, the bank will have to pay it, just as

much as it will have to pay the checks against its deposits, although

the people who borrowed the deposits have not paid their notes. It is

clear, therefore, that the same reserve should be carried to protect

acceptances as deposits.

MR. LAWYER: I am convinced of that, and I think we cannot insist

upon this conclusion too strongly for two reasons. First, the credit

facilities for trading, or carrying on business, are increasing at

a tremendous rate, and this particular form of credit is probably

increasing at a greater pace just now than any other. Second, there

is no form of credit more indirect, subtle and liable to mislead than

this; therefore, it will require double diligence to keep it as good as

gold. We must remember that since gold is our standard of value, gold

alone is the touchstone of all credit, acceptances as well as deposits

and bank notes.

MR. BANKER: There is no question whatever about that. If we want an

absolutely sound and impregnable financial and banking system, we must

meet checks and acceptances with gold just as well as bank notes,

for they are all identical and the same thing--only in different

forms--bank credit. Gentlemen, if you place our banks in a position

where they can pay gold no one will ever ask for gold, except for some

special purpose like that of export.

MR. MERCHANT: Is it not a fact that credit transactions in business are

increasing every year?

MR. MANUFACTURER: Mr. Merchant, I presume you mean, relatively.

That is, that the proportion of business transactions in credit as

distinguished from cash is greater now than formerly.

MR. MERCHANT: That is precisely what I mean, of course. I am aware that

there is on the average a great increase of business every year.

MR. BANKER: In some localities credit transactions are increasing, but

in others they are practically at a standstill. For example, I suppose

if you should take some country town in a cotton-growing district, the

amount of cash used from August to January might be 75 per cent of all

the transactions; for the planter pays the pickers and all the laborers

cash, and they in turn pay the storekeeper; during other periods of

the year, when accounts are running, the cash used is much smaller.

The average amount of cash used gradually falls as the people come to

use banks more and more, the bank checks taking the place of currency.

Generally speaking, however, the average country community does about

60 per cent of its business with currency, while the medium sized

cities, or towns, do possibly as much as 60 per cent of the business

with checks. In the largest cities as much as 90 per cent of the

business is done with checks, while the clearing houses settle their

differences or balances with about 5 per cent of actual money, where

money is used. Sometimes the differences or balances at the clearing

houses are settled by checks or drafts on a financial center.

While we have no definite figures that justify a positive statement,

it is generally estimated that about 90 per cent of all the business

of the country is done with some form of credit instrument, checks,

drafts, or bills of exchange.

MR. MERCHANT: Then all forms of exchange, promissory notes, checks,

drafts and bills of exchange are really mediums of exchange in

precisely the same sense that gold coin and currency are mediums of

exchange.

MR. BANKER: Certainly they are all just as efficient as mediums of

exchange, as gold coin and other forms of currency, although not as

facile for small trade. But, in large transactions they are far more

expeditious, more convenient, cost much less, and involve less risk.

These are the reasons they are used instead of cash to so large an

extent.

UNCLE SAM: Boys, from the attention that you have given this subject it

is evident that you are mightily interested, for you have had to work a

good deal harder to understand what you were talking about than usual.

But we have arrived, we have really gotten somewhere, difficult as

Exchange is generally thought to be.

Now, in order to fix in your minds just what progress we have made

during these five talks, I want to review what we have accomplished, or

agreed to.

The first night we found out that our standard of value was gold. The

second night we decided that our money was gold coin and that nothing

else would do. The third night we found out that our currency was

gold coin, token money, United States Notes and bond-secured notes;

we also found out that the United States Notes and bond-secured bank

notes were not fit for currency. The fourth night we determined that

the only currency in addition to our gold coins and token coins

worth considering for our purpose was a credit bank note, or bank

credit currency. Tonight we have found out what Exchange is and that

nine-tenths of our business is done in some form of it; but that we

must keep it as good as gold by holding adequate reserves to protect

this form of credit as well as any other.

Now, I call that going some.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Uncle Sam, last Wednesday evening, during our

discussion, Mr. Banker frequently used the word "reserve" in connection

with our currency, and insisted that the reserves should be such as to

protect the currency, and tonight he has again used the word "reserve"

in the same way in connection with exchange. While I know in a general

way what he means, I am not at all sure that I comprehend fully what a

reserve is in its true and broader sense.

MR. FARMER: Nor do I, and to confess the truth I am a little dazed on

that very point, and I want to suggest that we spend the next night

finding out what a bank reserve is. If all that Mr. Banker has been

saying is true the reserve is certainly the hub of this wheel, and

I want to tell you now that unless the hubs of your wheels are all

right, you won't have much of a wagon when you get through.

MR. BANKER: That's right. Your reserves are the very heart of the whole

question, the hub of the wheel.

UNCLE SAM: Well, then, we'll have reserves up next Wednesday, and let

us hope that our reserves will never get down, at least to a dangerous

point.

Good Night.

SIXTH NIGHT

VALUE, PRICE, WEALTH, PROPERTY, CREDIT

UNCLE SAM: Well, boys, what about reserves?

MR. LAWYER: Uncle Sam, soon after we departed the other night, I

began to think over the subject of reserves; but soon found myself

considering several other points, which, it seemed to me, we should

take up before reserves. Therefore, without consulting you, I

telephoned Mr. Merchant, Mr. Banker, Mr. Manufacturer, and I saw Mr.

Laboringman and talked the matter over with him. We all agreed that

there were several other points that we should discuss tonight instead

of reserves. I knew that Mr. Farmer lived on a Rural Free Delivery

route, and that I could reach him by noon the next day or Thursday

morning; so here we are ready to talk about something else. And we came

to this conclusion without even consulting you, for which possibly we

ought all of us now to beg your pardon.

UNCLE SAM: Well, there you go again. Really, I feel as though I were

in about the same position that one of my wisest Presidents, Abraham

Lincoln, said he was in, with regard to his influence over his Cabinet.

You will remember he once said, "I don't believe I have any influence

with the present administration, anyway." Of course, we all know that

was one of Honest Abe's sly drives, because he knew deep down in his

soul that in the end he was always the master of ceremonies. However,

what is it that you want to talk about? Of course, you understand, that

under the circumstances, having made the arrangement to talk about

reserve, "I am completely upsot."

MR. FARMER: Well, I'm the fellow that suggested that we talk about

reserves tonight; but I am sure that the change made was most

advisable. To use an ugly illustration, possibly ugly to this august

assembly, we now have our horses representing the standard of value

hitched up to our wagon which represents our currency and exchange, the

things that carry the value, wealth, property, and all commodities that

go by price, the trades having been made on credit, but calling for

capital. I think with Mr. Lawyer that we had better find out just what

these various words or terms mean before going any further. Otherwise

we will certainly be using words whose meaning we do not know, or, at

least, do not properly appreciate.

MR. MERCHANT: Now just what did you say; value, wealth, property,

capital and credit? That all sounds very well, but I suggest that you

include one more word that has always been a source of annoyance to me

when I want to buy anything, and most unsatisfactory when I want to

sell anything, and that is "price."

MR. FARMER: Oh, I had that in all right, but I will admit, in a sort of

backhanded way.

MR. BANKER: All right, then, let us include price in the list; then the

programme for tonight is, value, price, wealth, property, capital and

credit.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Just what do you mean by the value of anything? That

is, what is value anyway?

MR. MANUFACTURER: I have been studying over that very thing, and I

believe I can give you a definition that will wash. The value of

anything is measured by the use to which it is put, and is expressed in

anything for which it is exchanged.

MR. FARMER: I have been mulling over this question of value a little

myself, and I think that Mr. Manufacturer has that about right. I

worked it out this way: I have an old horse down on the farm that I

traded for, giving Hiram Johnson, my neighbor, a mule. That mule was

a mighty handy animal. I could do anything with him on the farm, but

he was a little too handy with his hind legs occasionally, so I traded

him off to let him practice on my neighbor Johnson. Now the value of

that mule was that horse that I got in exchange for it; and the value

of that horse was the mule. So, too, if I traded a hog for a sheep the

value of the hog is the sheep, and the value of the sheep is the hog.

MR. MERCHANT: Hold on just a minute before you go any further, as I

want to know whether anyone here can tell me what intrinsic value is.

We heard so much about that during the campaign of 1896; and I want to

know whether there is anything in it or not. I ran up against the same

expression in one of the books that I thumbed away back in 1896. And

today you sometimes hear men say that gold has intrinsic value. Now,

according to your definition, if no one could use gold, or rather did

not use it and you could not exchange it for anything else, it would

not have value.

MR. BANKER: Precisely so. Nothing is more absolutely true than that.

Gold, like everything else, gets its value from the demand for it,

which comes from its use and its consequent exchangeability.

MR. LAWYER: That is undoubtedly true, all the value that gold has

arises from its use and exchangeability, and its exchangeability arises

from its universal use.

It may be said, possibly, that the value of anything is measured by the

use to which it can be put; but I believe that it is all covered by the

latter part of the definition given by Mr. Manufacturer: _The value of

anything is any other thing for which it can be exchanged._ Anything

has value when it is exchangeable; when it is not exchangeable it has

no value. What is really more in keeping with our common everyday

language, is the definition of the Roman Law, "The value of anything is

what it can be sold for."

MR. BANKER: Yes, that is true in one sense, but I think we had better

make a distinction between receiving money and something else. If you

exchange anything for money, the amount of money received is more

properly called its price.

MR. LAWYER: You are right; I think we should make just that

distinction: "The value of anything is the thing you receive in

exchange for it." _The price of anything is the money you receive in

exchange for it._ Of course in everyday conversation, we are constantly

using value and price indiscriminately. We ask, what is the value of

something, when we want to know the price of it.

UNCLE SAM: Well, you have made short work of two topics or points

raised already.

MR. FARMER: Yes, and if we keep our noses to the grindstone, our eyes

on the sickle we are grinding, and our feet on the ground, we'll make

headway right along.

MR. LABORINGMAN: I think anybody can understand this subject, at least

so far anyway. We may get over our heads before we get through, but I

know I'm all right yet.

UNCLE SAM: The great thing to do in a discussion of this kind is just

what you do in any other matter. Talk common sense. Just talk horse

sense. Do you know I flatter myself that the common sense of the

American people is the wealth of the country?

MR. LAWYER: Wealth, did you say, Uncle Sam? Why that is just what we

are going to talk about. It may be that common sense is the source

of most of the wealth of the American people, but really, Uncle Sam,

with all due deference to you, I do not think you can call it wealth.

Aristotle said: "We call wealth everything whose value is measured by

money."

MR. BANKER: That definition of Aristotle has never been improved upon,

and today all students, scholars and economists have accepted it as

correct. And, while others have talked without limit and written books

without number about wealth, no one has improved upon what Aristotle

said wealth was. Just keep this simple inquiry in your minds: "Can it

be sold for money," and, remember that "whatever can be exchanged for

money is wealth."

Let me illustrate just what I mean. If I have land, houses, cattle,

horses, cotton, corn, or any other material thing that I can convert

into money, they all constitute wealth. Again, if I were a lawyer, a

doctor, farmer, bricklayer, engineer, musician, or painter, my services

would be wealth because I can sell them or exchange them for money.

Again, there is still another kind of wealth that may be described by

the single word "rights," such as mortgages, bonds, stocks, bank notes,

checks, drafts, bills of exchange, copyrights, patents, good will of a

business, etc., all these various things are also wealth because they

can be exchanged for money. They can all be bought and sold.

Let us remember this then, that all wealth is one of these three things:

_First_: Wealth is material, land, etc.

_Second_: Wealth is labor, work, etc.

_Third_: Wealth consists of rights, checks, notes, bonds, etc.

MR. LAWYER: Then, if I understand you correctly, you say a man is

wealthy because he has a good deal that he can turn into money.

Of course I am aware that a man may be considered wealthy in one

community, and in another community the same man with the same amount

of wealth may be considered a comparatively poor man--in other words,

everything is relative. A man worth $50,000 in some small country town

may be considered, and properly so, a very rich man; but on Fifth

Avenue, New York, he would be considered a comparatively poor man,

because it might take $50,000 to pay a year's rent for a house.

MR. LABORINGMAN: You bet I can see that point all right.

MR. FARMER: It seems to me as though you have made that perfectly

clear, but I want to tell you boys that when I tried to study up

on this question during the week, I got all balled up on the words

property and wealth, for I cannot see the slightest difference between

these two words.

MR. LAWYER: Well, I think there is a very great difference; and I

think I can demonstrate to you by an illustration right in your own

neighborhood just what the distinction is between these two words.

You will remember, Mr. Farmer, when that mill located over on Carroll

River, and that big dam was put in, Mr. Adams, a man whom you and I

both know very well, owned all the land in that neighborhood. You will

remember that he proceeded to borrow money and build houses for the

employees who wanted to come and work in the mill. I think he built as

many as 150 houses for that purpose. You will remember the dam washed

out and that they did not rebuild it; and as a consequence the mill

closed down. The result was the employees all left, and Mr. Adams was

involved to a very large extent, I think something over $200,000 all

told. Now he still has the property, but the insurance company has

the mortgages--in fact, Mr. Adams has a great deal more property now

than he had before the mill located there, because he has the land and

the 150 houses, but he has a good deal less wealth. For when the mill

located there, Mr. Adams' wealth exceeded $100,000, but after the mill

closed he could not rent or sell the houses to anyone. Now the evident

result was that he had increased the amount of his property, for he had

150 houses, but he actually had no wealth left. His property was what

we lawyers call corporeal property, that is, material property, land,

and buildings. The insurance companies which held the mortgages had

a very different kind of property, called by the lawyers incorporeal

property, that is, not material property but an interest in the real or

material property.

I think you will all agree that while Mr. Adams still has all his

property, all the wealth there is left belongs to the insurance company

which holds the mortgages.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Lawyer, is it not true that you could and would say

that a man had a lot of property if he owns say 100,000 acres of land

worth only 25 cents an acre, even if it was not salable at all?

MR. LAWYER: Yes, I think that is true, and illustrates in another way

that there is or may be a real difference between property and wealth;

however, it may be said that in conversation we often use the words

wealth and property without much, if any, distinction. It seems to me

that we should note this particular difference. _Wealth consists of

property convertible into money, and therefore implies exchangeability,

while property may not mean wealth at all, because the property has no

exchangeable value._

MR. BANKER: Mr. Lawyer, I think that that last statement of yours will

assist Mr. Farmer very greatly in understanding the real difference

between wealth and property. The difference is certainly very evident.

MR. FARMER: Yes, I have caught on. There may be a very great

difference between wealth and property, although we are in the

habit of using these two words without any reference to the special

meaning that really attaches to them. In our conversation we use them

indiscriminately, and I don't know as that makes any difference; but

for our purposes, that is, for the purposes of these discussions,

I think it is very important that we should know the difference;

because something may arise that will compel a recognition of the real

difference between these two words.

MR. BANKER: I was just going to remark that the very difference between

these two words suggests one of the other words we have agreed to

consider tonight, and that is the word "capital"; for capital is a form

of wealth, although all wealth is not capital.

Wealth, as we have seen, consists:

(1) Of material things, such as houses, land, etc.;

(2) Of productive power, called labor, etc.;

(3) Of rights, such as checks, notes, bonds, etc.

The owner of these things may use some of them for his convenience. He

may so use some of them as to produce a profit. Now, when anything is

traded with, or so used as to produce a profit, or as we often say

used productively, it is called capital.

Stephens defines capital thus: "Capital, the source whence any profit

or revenue flows."

So Senior says: "Economists are agreed that _whatever_ gives a profit

is properly called _capital_."

Again M.D. Fontenay says: "Wherever there is a _revenue_, you perceive

_capital_."

MacLeod says: "Capital is an economic quantity used for the purpose of

profit." I would suggest that we say _Capital is anything used for the

purpose of profit_.

MacLeod uses this language also: "If a person has a sum of money, he

may expend it on his household requirements; or in gratifying his

personal taste by buying books, or statues, or pictures, etc. Money

spent in this way is not _capital_.

"But if he buys goods of any sort for the purpose of selling them again

with a _profit_: Then the money so employed is '_capital_,' and the

goods so purchased are also _capital_, because they are intended to be

sold with a '_profit_.'

"So money let out at interest is _capital_.

"In a similar way any material thing may be used as capital. If a

landlord lets out his land for the purpose of profit, it is capital.

"All modern economists class personal skill, ability, energy and

character, as wealth, because persons can make a profit by their use.

Hence they may be used as capital, as well as material objects.

"If a man digs in his garden for his own amusement such labor is not

capital; or if he sings or acts or gives gratuitous lectures on any

subject to his friends, such labor is not capital.

"But if he sells his labor in any capacity for money: then such labor

is capital for him. Thus Huskisson says: 'that he had always maintained

that labor is the poor man's capital.' So Mr. Cardwell addressing his

constituents said 'labor is the poor man's capital.' And a writer in a

daily paper, speaking of agricultural laborers, said: 'The only capital

they possess is their labor, which they bring into the market to supply

their daily wants.'

"So if a man expends money in learning a profession such as that of an

advocate, physician, engineer, or a profession of any sort which he

practices for profit, the money laid out in acquiring such knowledge

is capital: and his skill, ability and knowledge are also capital. He

makes an income which is measurable and taxable, just in the same way

as if he had made profits by selling goods.

"Now, there are two fundamentally distinct ways in which capital may

increase:

"1. By direct and actual increase of quantity; thus flocks, and herds,

and all the fruits of the earth increase by adding to their number and

quantity.

"2. By exchange.

"That is by exchanging something which has a low value in a place, for

something which has a higher value.

"Now, it is clear that money produces a profit, and becomes capital, by

the second of these methods. Money is used as capital by exchanging it

for some goods or labor, the produce of which may be sold or exchanged

again, for a greater sum than they cost."

MR. LAWYER: Mr. Banker, that is very simple and very clear, but it

strikes me that a distinction which is of greater importance to us

is the form that capital takes, and I would say, as preliminary to a

distinction in the different forms of capital, that we should have a

broad definition of what capital is, concretely expressed. _Capital is

that part of the accumulated wealth of the country that is used for the

purpose of profit. It is either Active, Passive, or Fixed._

The Active Capital is that portion of the wealth of the country

which is employed in the production, transportation and distribution

of consumable commodities, and is more accurately described as the

commercial fund of the country.

The Passive Capital is that portion of the wealth of the country which

is derived from the commercial fund in the form of earnings, profits,

savings and income from investments, and is more accurately described

as the investment fund of the country. It is represented by bonds,

mortgages, and other investment securities.

The Fixed Capital is that portion of the wealth of the country which is

represented by real estate, buildings and all permanent improvements,

such as railroads, mill property, irrigation enterprises, etc.

_If we transfer the Active Capital, or commercial fund of the country,

to the Passive Capital, or investment fund, or what is still more

serious, convert it into Fixed Capital, we can no more keep the people

working and producing new wealth than you can keep a steam engine

producing power without coal and water._

What invariably happens in the so-called good times but almost

invariably what, by experience, proves "boom" times, is that business

men and in fact everybody, not only take all of their spare money, and

go into speculations, but they exhaust their credit as well; and what

they have to pay so far exceeds what they have to pay with, that when

the chain of credit breaks at any one point, the whole fabric falls.

It then takes years, usually, to catch up and reconstruct and reach

a normal condition in which, after "paying for the dead horses," so

to speak, the profits on business, savings from labor and the income

from rents and investments again begin to supply investment funds.

For example, it took at least four years to get the American people

to thinking naturally and normally, after the panic of 1907--and the

fact is some "dead horses" have not been paid for yet; but generally

speaking, we are now ready to turn a considerable sum from various

sources into the investment fund of the country, or into bonds,

construction of new work, and into fixed investments, lands, buildings,

railroads and other permanent improvements.

MR. BANKER: I think that you will all perceive from what Mr. Lawyer has

just said with regard to the various directions into which capital may

be turned and the fatal mistake that is ever and ever recurring--the

transfer of active or productive capital, or the commercial fund, into

the investment fund, or fixed forms, is what invariably, as he said a

moment ago, breaks the chain of credit at some point.

You can readily see, indeed it takes no argument to show, that nothing

in the business world should be guarded so jealously as the commercial

fund of the country, in order that credit may be maintained and labor

steadily employed.

MR. LAWYER: Our discussion has brought us most naturally to the last

word suggested for our consideration, and that is the word "credit."

I remember what Daniel Webster once said in a speech when speaking on

the continuance of the charter of the United States Bank in 1837. It

was this: "Credit is the vital air of the system of modern commerce.

It has done more, a thousand times, to enrich the nations than all

the mines of all the world." And again in another place he says: "We

owe more to credit and to commercial confidence than any nation which

ever existed; and ten times more than any nation, except England.

Credit and confidence have been the life of our system, and powerfully

productive causes of all our prosperity. They have covered the seas

with our commerce, replenished the treasury, paid off the national

debt, excited and stimulated the manufacturing industry, encouraged

labor to put forth the whole strength of its sinews, felled the forests

and multiplied our numbers, and augmented the nation, so far beyond all

example, as to leave us a phenomenon for other nations to look at with

wonder."

MR. BANKER: That might have been true in 1837, but today other

commercial nations could truthfully reverse that comment, for

they have in some respects and in some places passed us in credit

facilities--they have beaten us as it were at our own game, that is,

in having worked out a more highly developed use of credit.

MR. MANUFACTURER: When you recall the fact that between 90 and 95 per

cent of our business is carried on in some form of credit, you realize

that we have become so accustomed to this marvelous device that we have

lost appreciation of its power for human achievement and advancement.

MR. BANKER: You are right. Do you know that I regard credit as one of

the three greatest instrumentalities of modern civilization?

MR. LAWYER: Well, no, I never thought of credit in that connection.

That suggestion is so unusual that I am quite interested to know what

you regard as the three and in what order of importance you would place

them.

MR. BANKER: I regard the invention of printing as the greatest

influence in the world's advancement, because it opened up the paths

of knowledge to the poorest as well as the richest, and completely

destroyed the supremacy of wealth in the acquisition of knowledge. We

have observed what gigantic strides have been made during the past

twenty years, and with what increasing and amazing facility information

is now being disseminated, the progress of the last ten years

outstripping the imagination itself. Everybody can now know everything,

if they have the time and ability to acquire it.

MR. FARMER: How absolutely true that is. There are no less than ten

magazines on my table at home. They cover every conceivable subject

from electrical science, in which my son is deeply interested, to the

fashion plates of the latest style of women's dresses, current events,

current literature, fruit growing, intense farming, stock breeding,

eugenics and euthenics.

MR. LAWYER: Hold on there, Mr. Farmer, or you'll prove conclusively

that you fellows out in the country know more than we do in town.

MR. FARMER: Well, between you and me, I think that's so.

MR. BANKER: The second most powerful agent in the advancement of the

human race is that instrumentality by which all the resources of the

human mind have been developed and brought into requisition in meeting

the ever-increasing demands of mankind throughout the world. It has

destroyed the supremacy of money, and provided the means by which the

most humble of the race can place his foot upon the ladder of opulence.

That instrumentality is credit.

MR. LAWYER: I doubt whether such a proposition was ever thought of,

certainly it has never been advanced to my knowledge before; but when

you stop to think of it, I do not believe that anyone can successfully

controvert that statement. Look about you, and imagine, if you

can, what the condition of the people would have been without the

advantage of credit. Who of all your acquaintances has not made his

way to success by means of credit. Credit is certainly the gateway to

opportunity, and opportunity is the everlasting hope of the world.

MR. BANKER: Mr. Lawyer, unless you stop your flow of eloquence upon

this newly discovered means of human happiness, I will not get a chance

to state the third greatest contributing cause to the uniform and

universal development and advancement of mankind. It is steam and its

modern companion electricity. Through the application of steam to ocean

craft and railroads, transportation has brought the people of the whole

world practically into one market zone, and we are now all eating the

same food and wearing the same clothes, and to the last degree, every

people, and broadly speaking, every man, is doing that which he can do

most efficiently and profitably.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Mr. Banker, you have certainly opened up an entirely

new strain of thought to me; and yet when you grasp the full force

of the idea, and comprehend fully these three elements or forces:

printing, the general transmission or diffusion of thought or

knowledge; credit, the fullest use of all our talents by opening up a

world of opportunity; and transportation, the fullest exchange of all

the products of the mind and hand of man, you have actually covered

the realm of human life up to date. And yet, who ever thought of

placing this relative importance upon credit. We have been discussing

the comparative importance of gun powder that brought the knight and

soldier to a common level, the cotton gin, electricity, the telegraph,

the telephone, chemistry, surgery, wireless, printing and steam, but

whoever heard of credit in this connection?

MR. MERCHANT: What you say is distinctly true, but all these other

things I can readily see are only additional facilities in making the

three great fundamental instrumentalities for the advancement of the

human race more efficient; and the more one thinks it over, the more

impressive Mr. Banker's statement becomes.

_First_: Printing, the means of spreading knowledge;

_Second_: Credit, the fullest opportunity of developing and using the

powers of mind and body;

_Third_: Steam and electricity, the means of distributing on land and

sea the products of all mankind.

These three, printing, credit and power are certainly the three

greatest forces of modern civilization.

MR. BANKER: Now, gentlemen, having convinced you as I assume I must

have done, of the tremendous part that credit is playing in the world

of today, let us try to find out and comprehend just what credit really

is, and how it happens to be so essential to our present life.

The word "credit" means, "I believe," "I trust." That is, I believe

in a man, in a man's character, and in his ability, and therefore I

trust him to do something tomorrow, three months from now, six months

from now, nine months from now, one year, or possibly a longer time,

which he cannot do today. That is credit. What a limitless field of

opportunity and then of speculation this confidence of man in man opens

up. Credit is to money what steam is to water, and credit like steam

must always be kept within control, and within safe bounds, as in the

case of steam, or there will be an explosion of credit, a most direful

thing. Now, there never will be an explosion or crisis in the world of

credit, so long as credit is subjected constantly to the test of coin

redemption, that is, the conversion of credit into money, gold. So long

as credit can be extinguished by payment in gold, it is under control.

But, gentlemen, when gold redemption becomes impossible, look out! Let

me read what MacLeod says about that:

"It is unextinguished credit which produces those terrible monetary

cataclysms which scatter ruin and desolation among nations. It is by

the excessive creation of credit that overproduction is brought about,

which causes those terrible catastrophes, called 'commercial crises,'

and the inability of credit-shops to extinguish the credit they have

created, commonly called the failures of banks, is the cause of the

most terrible social calamities of modern times."

MR. LAWYER: Now, we have the other side of the picture. On the one

hand, we have Daniel Webster painting the possibilities of human

achievements through credit--its tremendous power for good, when under

control, and, on the other hand, the words of MacLeod pointing out the

awful danger, the tragical consequences of credit beyond control. The

years of 1873, 1893 and 1907 are illustrations of what happens when

credit has passed the boundaries of control.

MR. BANKER: Precisely so, and what we want to do is to prevent the

recurrence of those commercial tragedies which interrupt the currents

of prosperity, spreading desolation and death throughout the length and

breadth of the land.

MR. LABORINGMAN: It is to be hoped that we can do it, for no class

suffers so much as the working masses during these periods of disaster,

depression and distress. Don't you see that if any one of us has

succeeded in laying aside by painful saving a little nest egg, in some

savings bank, that it is wiped out, and he has to begin all over again?

And if one of us fellows has accumulated enough to start some little

business of his own, ninety-nine times out of one hundred he is cleaned

out, and through no fault whatever of his own.

MR. FARMER: In this very connection I want to call your attention to

another thing, and that's this. These men who have the intelligence,

ambition, perseverance and moral courage to pinch and save, even if

they have to starve to get a start for themselves, constitute the true

and the greatest ultimate source of wealth of this nation. They are the

chaps that make two blades of grass grow where only one grew before.

You don't want to forget that. They are not only the hope of every

community in which they live, but they are a constant inspiration to

the young.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Now, gentlemen, you are talking sense. If we can

devise some scheme to keep business from running away with us, and

running off the track, and down the embankment every few years, and

plumb over the precipice, we'll be doing something worth while. In a

word, what we want, it seems to me, is to keep business on a more even

keel, if possible; and if we could only get control of credit, and keep

it within reasonable limits, always subject to a current gold test, we

will be in a fair way to accomplish it.

MR. BANKER: That is just what we are after; to find some way to keep

credit within reasonable limits. You have struck the keynote of this

whole question.

In the first place, I want to call your attention to the fact that

there are several kinds of credit, and that we must familiarize

ourselves with all of them, in order that we may know how to deal with

them. A doctor, you know, is a mighty poor stick, if he cannot diagnose

your case, and tell you just what ails you, and yet proceeds to give

you some kind of medicine, any kind of medicine for the right or the

wrong disease. Indeed, he's about the most dangerous individual to

have in a community. Now, unless we can become convinced that we are

proceeding along right lines, because we have actually discovered the

evils from which we are suffering, we had better let things alone. But

our case is not hopeless, for the disease from which we are suffering

has a well-known specific antidote, and it is up to us to first find

out what ails us, and then to administer it.

The treatment of the credit phase of the situation, or what may be in a

way termed the mental aspect of the case, is probably as important as

any other, and I will now try to analyze and describe credit, so that

we can understand it, at least from my point of view.

There are five well defined forms of credit.

_First_: Credit granted to aid production.

_Second_: Credit to distribute production.

_Third_: Credit granted upon accommodation paper.

_Fourth_: Credit granted upon real estate.

_Fifth_: Credit granted to the Government, or forced by the Government.

UNCLE SAM: Say, Mr. Banker, do you know what time it is? Don't you

see it's half past ten o'clock? It will take you till morning to tell

all about credit, and I don't know but what it would take you until

"Kingdom Come."

MR. LABORINGMAN: Well, I've got to be up at six o'clock in the morning,

and be at my job by seven, and I want to go home. I move, we adjourn.

MR. FARMER: So do I, for I've four miles to go yet tonight.

MR. LAWYER: What difference does that make? The trolley goes right by

your door, and you'll be there in twenty minutes.

MR. FARMER: That's all right, Mr. Lawyer, I don't get my breakfast at

nine o'clock as you do, but I've got to be up in the morning at five

o'clock to feed my stock. I'm a-going, so good night.

UNCLE SAM: This is a rather informal break-up, but I guess it will be

of no use to call in the police, so good night.

SEVENTH NIGHT

COMMERCIAL CREDIT, LAND CREDIT, GOVERNMENT CREDIT

UNCLE SAM: Mr. Farmer isn't here yet. He left in such a huff the other

night, possibly he is sore--no, he is not, here he comes.

MR. LAWYER: When our meeting broke up last Wednesday night, Mr. Banker

had just outlined the different forms of credit, and I was very glad

that he did, because it gave me an opportunity to read up on the

subject and be prepared to listen intelligently, at least, to what any

of you may say tonight.

MR. MERCHANT: I did some investigating, too, and found the subject

far more interesting than I supposed it could possibly be. Indeed,

that is true of any subject. Your interest is always measured by your

knowledge, and many matters that seem to us difficult to understand,

become exceedingly simple as you get into them, and comprehend them.

How often the apparently impossible task completely dissolves under

persistent attacks.

MR. BANKER: I am more than pleased that you gentlemen have given

your spare time to this subject. Simple in function it is, but it is

immeasurably great in its possibilities, extent and responsibilities

from the standpoint of the banker.

Just as we parted last Wednesday I had described or defined the

different forms of credit, so far as they enter into banking directly

or indirectly. As I then stated, the first and simplest use of credit

is that granted for the production of something to eat, wear or

use--what we call consumable commodities, that is, credit granted to

aid in production.

If Mr. Farmer over there should come into my bank now as he used to

before he got rich, and ask for a thousand dollars to pay his expenses

while he was planting, cultivating and harvesting his crop, and then

in the fall should come again and ask me for three thousand dollars

more to buy some steers and hogs with, because he thought he could make

more money feeding than by selling his corn outright, and I had let

him have the total amount of $4,000 from time to time as he wanted it,

because I believed in his honesty and intelligence, and also because I

regarded the venture as a good one, that would be granting credit for

the production of beef and pork, food products--the very necessities of

life.

Just as soon as his steers and hogs had become fit for market, and

had ceased to gain anything to speak of, by holding them and further

feeding, he must sell or lose the cost of holding on the chance of a

rise in the market. But even this delay must be temporary. Virtually

he is compelled to sell from the very nature of the case. When he

sells his steers and hogs, suppose he should receive $5,000. First,

he pays me the $4,000 and interest, and has about $1,000 profit on

the transaction. You will all perceive and understand, that as I gave

Mr. Farmer this credit of $4,000 from time to time, he gave me his

promissory note for an equal amount, so that as fast as I granted

credit he created a debt. I acquired the right to demand payment of

$4,000 and he incurred the duty or obligation to pay $4,000.

So for every credit granted a corresponding debt is created; and if

every debt is paid every credit will be canceled. Though the credit

granted to Mr. Farmer was for the production of the necessities of

life, it was not the safest kind of a loan to make as we shall soon

see--his personal responsibility aside of course; because after I had

given the $1,000 he might have to replant his corn. The summer might be

dry and the frost might come early and cut off his crop; but passing

over these possible dangers to his crops, if we assume that his crop is

the biggest he ever raised, and that that very fact makes it desirable

to borrow the additional $3,000, pleuro-pneumonia might strike his

cattle, and cholera might seize his hogs and the transaction might

result in a loss of $1,000 instead of a profit of $1,000; or even a

greater loss than $1,000.

It is these risks that the banker takes in making loans to farmers

that justifies higher interest rates than are charged under some other

circumstances. Again it is these risks that lead a banker out of

caution to take real estate loans in addition, to cover the accidents

of crop raising, although the National Bank Act forbids making loans

upon real estate.

MR. FARMER: Under such circumstances, I think it ought to be possible

for a bank to take real estate loans. I believe it would help the

farmer to get his money at a trifle lower rate of interest.

MR. BANKER: I agree with you, and provision should be made for just

such cases; but the rule of the National Bank should still prevail

with regard to loans upon real estate so far as a regular business is

concerned, unless the bank is doing a savings bank business or a trust

company business, in which event it would be entirely proper to use

such funds for that purpose.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, a moment ago you said that the loan to Mr.

Farmer, apart from his personal standing, was not the safest kind of a

loan to make. Just what did you mean by that?

MR. BANKER: I am glad that you asked that question, for it should be

explained right here. Suppose that you, Mr. Merchant, should purchase

$4,000 worth of pork and beef in the barrel, at some distant point, and

should come to me for the money to pay for it. In all probability I

should ask you for the bill of lading covering the shipment, and also

insist upon your getting an insurance policy on the goods before giving

you the money. In this case, I am loaning money upon the necessities of

life, consumable commodities, and unless the insurance company fails,

and the goods are destroyed, I cannot possibly lose a cent. I have,

humanly speaking, eliminated all chances of loss. You will observe

that if I should hold the bill of lading and the insurance policy, I

have the title or ownership of the pork and beef, in any event. In such

cases, comparatively speaking, the rate of interest ought to be the

lowest possible, as far as the risk goes.

MR. MANUFACTURER: But this kind of a transaction constitutes a

comparatively small part of the commerce of the country.

MR. BANKER: Yes, that is true, and if credit was limited to such

transactions, credit crises would be very few, indeed, probably never

would arise as a result of over trading under such circumstances; trade

would be greatly hampered, and business curtailed to a destructive

degree.

MR. MANUFACTURER: That is certainly true. You men all know that I am a

manufacturer of high class clothing. I want to give you an illustration

of how business is being carried on today in the way of multiplying

credit.

A manufacturer of woolen goods at Lancashire, England, sold to a

wholesale merchant on the other side, $10,000 worth of goods on three

months' time. The wholesale merchant sold the goods for $12,000 to an

English exporter on three months' time. The English exporter sold the

goods to an American importer for $20,000, duty paid; the importer

sold them to an American jobber for $22,000; the jobber sold them to

me for $24,000. All these sales occurred within thirty days, and not

a single man paid a cent of money on account of his purchases. By way

of payment, this is what happened. I gave my note due in ninety days

to the jobber, and he discounted it at his bank. The jobber gave his

note due in ninety days to the importer, and the importer discounted it

at his bank; the English exporter sent over a draft upon the American

importer at ninety days sight, and he accepted it and it was returned

to England, where the exporter discounted it at his bank. In the

meantime, the wholesaler drew a draft on the exporter at ninety days

sight, and he accepted the draft, whereupon the wholesaler discounted

the draft at his bank. At the same time the manufacturer drew on the

wholesaler at ninety days sight, and the draft was accepted by the

wholesaler, and was discounted by the manufacturer at his bank. Thus we

see that goods which sold originally for only $10,000 went through five

different hands and became the basis upon which credits were granted

for $88,000, and debts were created for $88,000. Every single debt was

sold just as though it was so much woolen goods. Every man had his

money and not one of them had paid his debt, and yet every transaction

was legitimate and in the ordinary course of business.

Within sixty days I shall have turned these goods into clothes and sold

and delivered them, giving my customers in turn credit upon my books,

or will have accepted their promissory notes, which I may discount at

my bank if I should need the money in my own business. Now mark and

note this. If I should deliver to the American jobber my check today,

and he should send his check to the American importer and the American

importer should send a draft to the English exporter, and the English

exporter should deliver his check to the wholesaler, and the wholesaler

should send his check to the manufacturer, debts amounting to $88,000

would have been paid and credit amounting to $88,000 would have been

canceled; and yet not a single cent of cash in the form of coin or

currency has been used.

Every one of the checks, notes or drafts taken in the transaction is

property, just as much as the note taken for a single sale of the goods

would have been property. Indeed, every one of the five notes or drafts

was just as much property as the goods themselves were, and could be

bought and sold just as well as the goods themselves could be bought

and sold. Now it must be evident to all of you that in the production,

transportation and distribution of commodities, credit performs exactly

the same function as money. So far, therefore, credit is in all

respects equivalent to money. So long, therefore, as the operations

through credit are successful, everything goes well.

MR. BANKER: Precisely so, Mr. Manufacturer, so long as the operations

are successful, everything goes well; but it is the sudden breaking of

the chain of credit that brings or precipitates a disturbance.

MacLeod uses this language in referring to the destruction of

confidence: "It is the sudden failure of confidence and extension

of credit which produces what is called in commercial language, 'a

pressure on the money market' and which causes money to be 'tight.'

When money is said to be scarce, it does not mean that there is a

smaller quantity of money actually in existence than before; there may

be more, or there may be less in the country; no one can tell what the

amount of money in existence is, but a great amount of credit which

serves as a substitute, and was an equivalent of money, is either

destroyed altogether, or is suddenly struck with paralysis, as it

were, and deprived of its negotiable power, and therefore, practically

useless. A vast amount of property is expelled from circulation, and

money is suddenly called upon to fill the void."

It must be observed and noted right here, therefore, that streams of

gold, of gold, I say, must be constantly and swiftly running through

the channels of trade, and so intimately connected with a practically

unlimited supply or an inexhaustible reserve of gold, in the form of a

central reserve for the whole country, to immediately extinguish any

conflagration of credit as soon as it breaks out, precisely as a flood

of water extinguishes a fire when it first makes its appearance.

For the past ten or fifteen years, the banks of England have realized

the necessity of pursuing this principle, by carrying their own

individual reserves, and accordingly have been gradually accumulating

cash reserves of their own, instead of depending upon the Bank of

England, except as a last resort.

Germany, too, within the past year, has suffered severely because

adequate reserves have not been present in her channels of trade; and

having discovered this weakness in her banking practices, appointed

a commission to pass upon that and other questions. The commission

reported that the individual banks should carry their own reserves;

and Herr Havenstein, President of the Imperial Bank, a short time ago

demanded that the banks of Germany should carry their own cash reserves

up to 15 per cent of their liabilities.

How much more important, then, gentlemen, must it be that we, when

you consider the extent of our country, our vast and varied banking

interests which are being carried on by 25,000 or 30,000 individual or

independent banks, should require everyone of these banks to be in a

position to test its credits with the touchstone of gold, and at the

same time take the precaution of protecting itself by a central reserve

of gold far beyond any possible demand that may be made upon it.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, from what you have been telling us it is

perfectly clear that every promissory note, check, draft, or bill of

exchange, which are acknowledgments of debt, are just as much property

as land, houses, cattle, corn, iron, or anything else material that can

be bought and sold. Credit itself is merchandise and the subject of a

gigantic commerce of its own.

"A well-managed credit amounts to tenfold the funds of a merchant; and

he gains as much by his credit as if he had ten times as much money."

This maxim is generally received among all merchants. Credit is,

therefore, the greatest wealth to every man who carries on commerce.

Demosthenes says: "There being two kinds of property, money and general

credit, our greatest property is credit."

Again he says: "If you were ignorant of this, that credit is the

greatest capital of all toward the acquisition of wealth, you would be

utterly ignorant."

So Melon says: "To the calculation of values in money, there must be

added, the current credit of the merchant, and his possible credit."

So also Dutot says: "Since there has been regular commerce among men,

those who have need of money have made bills, or promises to pay in

money. The first use of credit, therefore, is to represent money by

paper. This usage is very old; the first want of it gave rise to it. It

multiplies specie considerably. It supplies it when it is wanted, and

which would never be sufficient without this credit; because there is

not sufficient gold and silver to circulate all the products of nature

and art. So there is in commerce a much larger amount in bills than

there is specie in the possession of the merchants."

MR. BANKER: While it is true, as a general principle, that by the sale

and transfer of the same property, as we have seen in the case of the

woolen goods, many credits are granted and a corresponding amount of

debts are created, it is also true that a single debt in the form of a

promissory note, check, draft or bill of exchange, may be the medium of

exchanging or transferring many different pieces of property. This is

just the reverse of the transaction that Mr. Manufacturer has explained

to us.

MR. FARMER: That is right. I want to tell you fellows something. One

day about six months ago I was thinking of taking an automobile trip,

but hesitated on account of the weather signs. I hung around town here

for an hour or two and happened to drop into the office of a certain

lawyer (I never go there any more now). We talked politics. While

there, I asked him what he thought of the weather, and the political

situation, and then went out. At the end of the month I got a bill

from that lawyer for $50. I called upon the gentleman (I suppose I

have got to call him a gentleman on account of his neighbor here) to

find out what his bill meant, and he claimed that while we talked

about politics, the Presidential election prospects and the weather,

that I had pumped him about some very important legal matters upon

which he had given me valuable advice. Upon my soul I never knew it,

but what could I do. My only possible escape was to pay some other

lawyer, possibly Mr. Lawyer over there, $100 to defend the case. As

is the practice nowadays, I took the short cut and paid it by sending

him my check. That lawyer indorsed and gave that check to a neighbor

of mine for a Jersey cow. My neighbor indorsed and gave the check to a

country grocery store out there and paid his bill with it. The country

storekeeper indorsed and gave the check to Mr. Merchant over there

for $50 worth of boots and shoes. Mr. Merchant indorsed and gave the

check to Mr. Manufacturer for $50 worth of clothing. Mr. Manufacturer

indorsed and deposited that check with Mr. Banker, right here, who

charged it up to my account. Now, by Jove, you wouldn't think that was

possible, but here is the check with those five indorsements.

Mr. Manufacturer has just given us an instance where the same identical

property worth only $10,000 in Lancashire, England, was sold five

times, and that credits amounting to $88,000 were being granted, and a

corresponding amount of debts were created. Now here is a case where

my debt to that blasted lawyer acknowledged by my check, paid him

$50; paid my neighbor for a Jersey cow $50; paid the country grocery

store for groceries $50; paid Mr. Merchant for boots and shoes $50;

paid Mr. Manufacturer for clothing $50; paid the bank on account of

Mr. Manufacturer's debt $50; or six separate debts in all, amounting

to $300. And the joke is, I never ought to have given the check at

all. This is the reverse side of the use of credit. The instance given

by Mr. Manufacturer was one illustrating the tremendous expansion of

credit. The instance I have given is one of the contraction of credit.

MR. BANKER: Right on that point Mr. MacLeod says that sixty years ago

almost the entire circulating medium of Lancashire, England, consisted

of bills of exchange in no way different from Mr. Farmer's debt, and

that they sometimes had as many as 115 indorsements upon them before

they came to maturity. So that the useful effect of a bill of exchange

is indicated by the number of indorsements upon it, supposing that

every transfer is accompanied by an indorsement, which is not always

the case. We see here the fundamental difference between bills of

lading and bills of exchange, because the indorsements on the former

denote the number of transfers of the same identical property; the

indorsements on the latter denote the number of transfers of distinctly

different property.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, in every form of credit granted so far and

debts created, we have certainly been dealing only in a legitimate way

with consumable commodities, the necessities of life, and ordinarily,

if not always, this kind of credit will take care of itself. And yet

the marvelous facility and power of credit has been illustrated so

vividly, that I am sure all of us appreciate it and can readily see how

it might be abused and lead to disaster if not confined to the actual

production of articles of food, clothing and daily use, or, in a word,

to the production of the necessities of life.

MR. FARMER: I object to your including that lawyer's bill as one of the

necessities of life.

MR. LAWYER: I beg your pardon, but we lawyers are a necessity. Possibly

necessary evils, but nevertheless, I insist that we are necessary.

MR. BANKER: Passing over this little quarrel between Mr. Farmer and Mr.

Lawyer, Mr. Merchant has hit upon the vital distinction that should

always be maintained in commercial banking as distinguished from

investment banking as we shall soon see.

MR. LAWYER: There is not one man in a thousand that comprehends the

distinction that you have just called our attention to, and I include

the bankers when I say that, too. I did not appreciate it myself a

week ago, but it is fundamental and must not be overlooked. I want to

call your attention to one form of credit that does not grow out of

actual transactions in the production and distribution of consumable

commodity, and that is accommodation paper.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Accommodation paper? It strikes me as though that

was just the kind of paper I wanted. I certainly will take any

accommodation that Mr. Banker over there will give me.

MR. LAWYER: Speaking of accommodation paper, Mr. MacLeod says: "We now

come to a species of credit which will demand great attention, because

it is the curse and plague spot of commerce, and it has been the

great cause of those frightful commercial crises which seem to occur

periodically; and yet, though there can be no doubt that it is in many

cases essentially fraudulent, yet it is of so subtle a nature as to

defy all powers of legislation to cope with it."

The obvious distinction between accommodation paper and promissory

notes or bills of exchange here referred to, and all legitimate

commercial paper, is this: the accommodation paper represents a future

transaction, something to be done, while the true commercial paper

represents a past transaction, or something that has been done; for

example, goods that had been manufactured and are ready for sale or

have been sold and shipped.

MR. BANKER: Mr. Lawyer, will you allow me to illustrate that

distinction?

MR. LAWYER: Certainly.

MR. BANKER: If Mr. Manufacturer there should make ten different sales

of clothing of $5,000 each, and then send out ten drafts to his ten

customers, who accepted them and returned them, these ten drafts would

be called real bills of exchange, or let us call them true commercial

bills, because the ten men have purchased and agreed to pay for the

goods received by them. Should the ten men have sent their promissory

notes to Mr. Manufacturer, they would be identically the same thing as

the drafts which they had accepted, and answer identically the same

purpose.

The real beneficiaries in these ten transactions are the ten purchasers

of the goods which they have received; and if Mr. Manufacturer should

sell me these ten bills of exchange or promissory notes as the case

might be, with his indorsement, the ten men would all individually

regard themselves as primarily liable; and they will, therefore, each

of them, prepare to pay his note when it comes due, although Mr.

Manufacturer is the guarantor. But if Mr. Manufacturer should go to

these same ten men and ask each of them as a favor or _accommodation_

to him to accept the draft or indorse his note for the same amount of

$5,000, each due in 90 days, no goods having been purchased by any one

of them, all these drafts would be accommodation paper, and no one of

these men would look upon his note as his debt, and therefore would

expect that Mr. Manufacturer would take care of the paper when it came

due.

In the latter case, Mr. Manufacturer, having gotten the money

and the ten men having no interest in the transaction, except as

an accommodation to Mr. Manufacturer in the form of a favor, Mr.

Manufacturer becomes the real maker of the ten notes, and the ten men

who are indorsers are, as I have said, without any interest in the

transaction, except that of accommodation acceptors.

Mr. MacLeod has described this whole transaction so fully and forcibly

I want to read it to you: "There is in fact only one real principal

debtor and ten sureties. Now these ten accommodation acceptors are

probably ignorant of each other's proceeding. They only give their

names on the express understanding that they are not to be called upon

to meet the bill: and accordingly they make no provision to do so. If

anyone of them is called upon to meet his bill, he immediately has

a legal remedy against the drawer (or the note maker). In the case

of real bills, then, the bank would have ten persons who would each

take care to be in a position to meet his own engagement; in the

case of accommodation paper there is only one person to meet the ten

engagements. Furthermore, if one of the ten real acceptors fails in his

engagement, the bank can safely press the drawer: but if the drawer of

the accommodation bill fails to meet one of the ten acceptances, and

the bank suddenly discovers that it is an accommodation bill, and they

are under large advances to the drawer, they dare not for their own

safety press the acceptor, because he will, of course, have immediate

recourse against his debtor, and the whole fabric will probably tumble

down like a house of cards. Hence the chances of disaster are much

greater when there is only one person to meet so many engagements, than

when there are so many each bound to meet his own.

"We see, then, that the real danger to a bank in being led into

discounting accommodation paper is that the position of principal and

surety is reversed. They are deceived as to who the real debtor is, and

who the real surety is, being precisely the reverse to what they appear

to be, which makes a great difference in the security to the holder of

the bills...." In carrying on a legitimate extension of credit, the

bank never permits the advance to exceed a certain definite limit; but

it never can tell to what length it may be inveigled to discounting

accommodation paper until some commercial reverse happens, when it

may discover its customer has been carrying on some great speculative

operation with capital borrowed from it alone....

"This is the rationale of accommodation paper; and here we see how

entirely it differs from real commercial paper. Because with real

commercial paper, and bona fide customers, though losses may come,

still directly the loss occurs, there is an end of it. But with

accommodation paper the prospect of a loss is the very cause of a

greater one being made, and so perpetually in an ever-widening circle

till at last the canker may eat into a banker's assets to any amount

almost."

"The insurmountable objection, therefore, to this species of paper, is

the dangerous and boundless facility it affords for raising money for

speculative purposes."

MR. MERCHANT: That is absolutely true. Accommodation paper and

speculation go hand in hand. They are twin sisters. Siamese twin

sisters. Pardon me, if I take a moment to demonstrate its terrors

by relating the experience of a friend of mine who was led into an

irrigation scheme:

"My friend was in the grocery business in a western town and had a

stock of groceries worth $75,000, and he had $25,000 cash in the bank.

The dam and water ditch was to cost $100,000. My friend sold off a

part of his goods, realizing $25,000 of additional cash. He moved the

balance of his goods out to the point where the dam was to be located,

forty miles away, and began operations. He succeeded in finishing

the dam after paying out for work all that he had, and in securing

indorsers up to $100,000 upon accommodation paper in the city where

he had carried on the grocery business. Two hundred thousand dollars

had been paid for groceries and clothing. The laborers had gone to

his store and obtained food and clothing during the two years he was

engaged in constructing the work, and they had consumed all their wages

in living, and more, too. He put an issue of bonds on the dam but could

not sell them; therefore he could not pay the banks. His indorsers

could not pay the banks, and most of them were ruined because of their

indorsements for accommodation purposes. He was wiped out. He turned

over everything to the bank, bonds and all. The banks had to carry

those bonds ten years before they could sell them."

MR. BANKER: Mr. Merchant, you have given a splendid illustration of

the result of accommodation paper, but you have proved far more than

you set out to demonstrate. You have not only shown the ruin wrought

by the $100,000 of accommodation paper, but also the extreme danger

accompanying accommodation paper, when the proceeds go into a real

estate investment or improvement; especially an irrigation enterprise

that usually requires a long time to reach results. The same is true

with regard to railroad investments, town lots, or any kind of real

estate investments. Your friend put into that grocery store from first

to last $200,000 worth of groceries and clothing, and the laborers who

did the work ate up the groceries and wore out the clothing.

MR. MERCHANT: That is just what they did, for he simply gave them

credit at the store for their wages, and they were charged for what

they bought, and at the end of two years, the $200,000 worth of

groceries and clothing were consumed and converted into that dam and

ditch. He used to say he was ruined by the dam ditch.

MR. BANKER: Now you have proved another thing by your illustration and

that is this. When the $200,000 worth of food and clothing represented

by two years' work of 100 men were converted into a real estate

improvement, instead of into consumable commodities, the necessities of

life, you have, so to speak, destroyed that much commercial capital, by

converting or changing it into fixed capital. This is true because your

friend could not begin and build another dam, for he had no money with

which to do it.

MR. MERCHANT: But, Mr. Banker, he could sell his bonds.

MR. BANKER: If he could, yes, but you just said he could not, and that

he turned everything over to the bankers and that they carried the

bonds for ten years. Now suppose that a flood should have come and

taken out his dam and destroyed his irrigation ditch, it would then

be perfectly clear to all of us, would it not, that $200,000 worth of

food and clothing had gone down the stream and had been forever lost;

completely wiped out, just as completely as if the goods had been

consumed by fire.

MR. MERCHANT: That is perfectly plain, but suppose that he could have

sold the bonds, he would have gotten his money back, would he not?

MR. BANKER: Yes, we would say in that case, that he had gotten his

money back, but he could not get the $200,000 of food and clothing

back, for they are in the dam and ditch. The $200,000 he gets for

his bonds, if he sold them for that price, is an entirely different

$200,000, as you must admit after a moment's thought. Your friend had

groceries and clothing which he could sell for $200,000 in money. Now,

suppose that you had had at the same time, $200,000 in your business.

Your $200,000 with the $200,000 your friend had put into the dam,

when finished would amount to $400,000. Now, if he had come to you to

dispose of his bonds, and you had thought well enough of them to sell

out your business and buy them, your $200,000 bonds would represent the

food and clothing in the dam and ditch, and are no longer cash capital

any more than a farm is cash capital, and it might take you longer to

sell your irrigation bonds than to sell a farm. You said it took the

bank ten years to get rid of them.

MR. MERCHANT: Oh, I see that now. We have simply converted $200,000 of

cash capital into $200,000 of passive or fixed capital. Before he built

the ditch he had $200,000 and before I sold out my grocery business I

had $200,000, making $400,000 of cash capital. Now he has $200,000 of

cash capital and I have $200,000 of fixed capital, possibly an eternal

investment in the bonds. That is what you would call a permanent

investment, I suppose, for it might take me twenty years to demonstrate

the value of the enterprise as it did the bankers.

MR. BANKER: Now, Mr. Merchant, I want you to mark and remember this; in

fact, I want all of you gentlemen to set this down in your memories so

that it can never be dislodged. These irrigation bonds would continue

as passive or fixed capital until the earnings or sale of the property,

covered by the ditch, should not only pay the interest upon them, but

should pay off the principal as well, even if it took a thousand years

to accomplish this result.

MR. LABORINGMAN: That is nothing but a straight real estate loan as far

as I can see, and not a very good one at that.

MR. BANKER: That is just what it is, and for the very same reason a

banker should no more buy such bonds or loan on such securities, his

commercial deposits than he should loan money on real estate. The

principle is the same. If we bankers loan on cotton, cattle, hogs,

wheat, corn, or manufactured goods of any kind, we know there is a

constant and ready market at some price for these things, for they are

all in current demand at some price, somewhere, while a real estate

loan, however good it may be, is not what we call a quick asset, or

liquid asset; that is, something that you can turn into money at once.

A commercial bank should never take a real estate loan, except as

additional security for money advanced for some legitimate commercial

purpose as distinguished from an investment. The commercial funds

should be used for the production of crops, or goods of some kind,

and if a real estate mortgage is taken in addition, it should be only

within reasonable limits, for it is the easiest thing in the world to

tie up all a bank's capital and deposits in real estate loans; that

is, to turn the capital and deposits into passive or fixed capital,

mortgages or real estate, which might be selling readily in boom times,

but which are utterly unsalable when the break comes.

MR. LABORINGMAN: What do you mean by tying up the capital and deposits

of a bank in mortgages and real estate?

MR. BANKER: I will explain that to you in such a way that I am sure

you cannot fail to understand and appreciate it. Suppose that I had

$100,000 in cash in my bank to meet the demands of my depositors; but

should give it to farmers in exchange for mortgages upon their farms. I

could not pay my depositors the mortgages; they want money. I might not

be able, and probably would not be able, to sell the mortgages in time

to pay the depositors their money; and if money happened to be scarce,

possibly not for a long time would I be able to pay them their money.

I would have that $100,000 tied up in mortgages. This is granting

credit on land. Now, these mortgages will continue in existence until

the farmers can make enough out of their crops to pay the interest

upon them from year to year, and finally to pay them off; it may take

ten or twenty years. If I had loaned $100,000 on cotton or cattle, the

products of the farm, they could have been converted immediately into

money at some price to meet the demands of my depositors.

MR. LABORINGMAN: I see now that you bankers must keep the money you

receive from us depositors, either in cash or in something you can

instantly convert into money, and when you don't do that, you have tied

it up, as you say; and if we happen to find it out we are apt to want

our money; and if we all want it at the same time, you call it a run

on your bank. Now when you say a banker is ready for a run, you mean,

as I now understand it, that he has all his deposits on hand in cash,

or has all his deposits invested in something that he can turn into

cash: good notes that have been taken in the course of business, that

is, in the production and transportation of consumable commodities,

the necessaries of life. Of course, anybody must understand that if a

bank bought a lot of farms or a lot of farm mortgages (and it might be

worse off if it bought city mortgages with our deposits), he could not

convert them or turn them into money on demand. I am on to this thing

now; neither mortgages nor land can be considered what you described

a minute ago as quick assets, or as liquid assets, because you cannot

convert them into money practically on demand.

MR. FARMER: I grasp that idea now myself. Do you know I have always

thought, until within an hour, that we farmers ought to be able to

get something to pay out in the shape of currency that represented

our land, or in exchange for a mortgage, just because I knew a

mortgage was good or worth its face; but I see now that a bank must

not only have something that is good and worth its face, but it must

be exchangeable for, and convertible into, real money or gold, at any

time, or the bank must shut up. And you can't turn all our farms into

some form of currency, and expect the banks to redeem it any more than

you can sell a farm every hour. I have been trying to sell one farm

for ten years. Now I see that would not make very good currency. Since

I cannot sell it, the only way for me to convert that farm into cash

capital is to take the net earnings, and lay them aside until they

equal its value or what it cost me; that might not be within twenty

years, as I might not be able to save for that purpose more than 3 per

cent or 4 per cent a year which, at compound interest, would about make

it. It is perfectly clear to me, now, that real estate is not a proper

basis for a currency, which must be currently redeemed in gold. It

cannot be done; that is a sure thing.

MR. LAWYER: Mr. Farmer, you have reasoned out for yourself a thing that

has fooled many a man, and the world has had many bitter experiences

trying to do the very thing you now so clearly see cannot be done; that

is, make currency out of real estate, or, rather, as you would say,

make money out of real estate, when, as we have already seen, gold is

the only money we have or can have, so long as gold is our standard of

value.

Jevons, a great English writer, has well said: "Land is doubtless one

of the best kind of security for the ultimate repayment of a debt; and

it is therefore very suitable when money is lent for a long time. But

representative bank notes purport to be equivalent to gold, payable

on demand, and nothing is less readily convertible into gold in an

emergency than land."

MR. FARMER: And we cannot have any more currency than we can redeem

daily in gold. Therefore we can't make currency out of all of our real

estate, even our agricultural land, which is according to our last

census worth sixteen billions or $160 for every man, woman and child

in the United States. The average value per acre is $15.57. Now, at

first thought, anyone would say that it would be safe to issue money

for this value, or sixteen billion dollars; but who would redeem it?

That is the question. One hundred and sixty dollars for every man,

woman and child. That would certainly be absurd; and yet I have always

thought that we could do that very thing until tonight. I see how it

is, currency must be currently redeemed in our standard of value, or it

will become first worth less than 100 cents on the dollar, and if the

thing goes far enough, it would actually become practically worthless,

although it might be based upon valuable real estate. How perfectly

simple and plain this all is now.

MR. LAWYER: Indeed, it is simple and plain, but do you know that that

scheme of making currency or money out of real estate, or converting

real estate into currency or money, was tried twice in France upon a

most gigantic scale? First, John Law, in 1717, worked out a scheme

whereby he tied the government of France to a land enterprise in the

United States, the "Mississippi Scheme," covering a large French grant,

and through his plan issued money, Government money, that represented

about one-quarter cash and the balance real estate. But everybody has

heard of John Law and the "Mississippi Bubble," so I won't say any more

about that. Nearly a century afterward the same scheme was tried again,

and strange as it may seem, in France, too.

From 1789 to 1796, during the French Revolution, the credit of the

French Government was added to vast real estate holdings, so that the

security was doubled, such as it was. I have just looked this matter

up with a good deal of care, and the best description I found was

substantially as follows:

Assignats were a form of paper money issued in France from 1789 to

1796. Assignats were so termed because land was assigned to the holders

of them. The financial strait of the French Government in 1789 was

extreme; coin was scarce, loans were not taken up, taxes had ceased to

be paid, production and the country were threatened with bankruptcy.

In this emergency Assignats were issued to provide a substitute for

metallic currency. These Assignats were originally of the nature

of mortgage bonds on the National lands. These lands consisted of

the church property confiscated on the motion of Mirabeau by the

Constitutional assembly on Nov. 2, 1789, and the Crown lands which had

been taken over by the nation on Oct. 7th. Subsequently the lands of

the Emigres, the princes and royal followers, 30,000 of the nobility

who were exiled from the soil of France, were added to the list of

lands against which the Assignats were issued.

These Assignats were first to be paid to creditors of the State;

with them the creditors could purchase National land, the Assignats

having for this purpose a preference over other forms of money. If the

creditor did not care to purchase land, it was supposed that he could

obtain the face value for them from those who desired land. Those

Assignats which were returned to the State as purchase money were to

be canceled, and the whole issue, it was argued, would consequently

disappear, as the National lands were distributed.

A first issue was 400,000,000 francs or ($80,000,000) worth of

Assignats, each note being 100 francs or $20 value and bearing interest

daily, at 5 per cent. They were to be redeemed by the product of the

sales, and from certain other sources, at the rate of 120,000,000

francs ($24,000,000) in 1791; 100,000,000 francs ($20,000,000) in 1792;

80,000,000 francs ($16,000,000) in 1793 and 1794, and the balance in

1795. The success of this first issue was undoubted, as all such first

issues are.

Mirabeau was a strenuous advocate of the Assignats. "They represent,"

he said, "real property, the most secure of all possessions, the soil

on which we tread. There cannot be a greater error than the fear so

generally prevalent as to the overissue of Assignats, reabsorbed

progressively in the purchase of the national domain; this paper money

can never become redundant."

In 1790 the interest was reduced to 3 per cent, and as the Treasury had

again become exhausted, a further issue was decided upon; it was also

decreed that the Assignats were to be accepted as legal tender, all

public departments being instructed to receive them as the equivalent

of metal money. The second issue amounted to 800,000,000 francs

($160,000,000) and carried no interest. It was solemnly declared in

the decree authorizing the issue that the maximum issue was never

to exceed one billion two hundred million francs (1,200,000,000)

($240,000,000). This pledge, however, was soon broken, and further

issues brought the total up to three billion seven hundred and fifty

million francs (3,750,000,000) ($750,000,000). The consequence of these

further issues was instant depreciation, and the note of 100 francs

($20) sank to less than 20 francs ($4) in coin. Recourse was then had

to protective legislation. The first step was to decree the penalty

of six years' imprisonment against any person who should sell specie

for a more considerable quantity of Assignats, or should stipulate a

different price for commodities, according as payment was to be made

in specie or Assignats. For the second offense, the penalty was to be

twenty years' imprisonment (August 1, 1793). For this the death penalty

was ultimately substituted (May 10, 1794). This severe provision was,

however, repealed after the fall of Robespierre. Notwithstanding these

precautions, the value of the Assignats still declined, till the

proportion of specie had become that of sixty to one. Then came the

passing, by the convention, on May 3, 1793, of the absurd maximum. The

decree required all farmers and corn dealers to declare the quantity

of corn in their possession and to sell it only in recognized markets.

No person was to be allowed to lay in more than one month's supply, a

maximum price was fixed above which no one was to buy or sell under

severe penalties. These measures were soon stultified by further issues

and by June, 1794, the total number of issued Assignats aggregated

nearly eight billion francs ($1,600,000,000), of which only two billion

four hundred and sixty-four million francs had returned to the Treasury

to be destroyed. The extension of the maximum price to all commodities

only increased the confusion. Trade was completely paralyzed and

all manufacturing establishments were closed down. Attempts by the

convention (legislature) to increase the value of the Assignats were of

no avail. Too many causes operated in favor of the depreciation; the

enormous issue, the uncertainty as to their value, if the revolution

should fail; the relation they bore both to specie and commodities

which retained their value and refused to be exchanged for money of

constantly diminishing power. Even between the Assignats themselves

there were differences. The Royal Assignats themselves, which had been

issued under Louis XVI had depreciated less than the Republican ones.

They were worth from 8 per cent to 15 per cent more, a fact due to the

hope that in case of a counter-revolution they would be less likely to

be discredited.

The Directory was guilty of even greater abuses in dealing with the

Assignats.

By 1796 the issue had reached the enormous figure of forty-five billion

francs ($9,000,000,000), and even this gigantic total was swollen

still more by the numerous counterfeits introduced into France by the

neighboring countries. The Assignats had now become totally valueless,

the abolition of the maximum the previous year, 1795, had produced

no effect; and, though by various payments into the Treasury, the

total number had been reduced to about twenty-four billion francs

($4,800,000,000), their face value was about thirty to one of coin.

At this value they were converted into eight hundred million francs

($160,000,000) of land warrants or Mandats Territoriaux, which were to

constitute a mortgage on all the lands of the republic. These Mandats

were no more successful than the Assignats; and even on the very day of

their issues were at a discount of 82 per cent. They had an existence

of six months, and were finally received back by the State at about

the 70th part of their face value in coin. That is, the State gave one

dollar in coin for seventy dollars in the paper.

This experience of France has been the experience of practically the

entire world, Italy, Russia, Germany, Great Britain. The South American

countries are now going through it. Even the very best of them, Brazil

and Argentina, although their notes are not backed up by the land as

those of France were, have suffered the same consequences of their

folly. They are the notes issued by the Government against their own

credit. They were issued as fiat money, but are gradually being retired

just as the Assignats were as depreciated currency.

MR. BANKER: Well, we haven't anything on the South American countries

to speak of ourselves from Colonial times down to the present day.

UNCLE SAM: Now, Mr. Banker, just hold up; you can't get into that tale

of woe tonight, for I always have a bad dream when I think of it; a

veritable nightmare. We must quit for tonight. Mr. Farmer over there

has gone to sleep on my hands already.

MR. FARMER: No, he hasn't; not on your life, and I hope it's a very

long life, Uncle Sam.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Mr. Farmer, you are the first man I ever saw who

snores when he is awake. You snored loud enough to wake the dead. Your

snoring actually kept me from going to sleep.

UNCLE SAM: Well, boys, let me see whether I can recollect just what

points we have made tonight.

_First_: There is credit, which is the result of confidence and trust.

It is the right to demand payment.

_Second_: For every credit granted, a debt is created.

_Third_: If every debt is paid every credit will be canceled.

_Fourth_: Credit is never excessive no matter what its absolute

quantity is, so long as it always returns into itself; that is, cancels

itself.

_Fifth_: Credit from a commercial point of view, when granted to create

consumable commodities, the necessaries of life, is filling its proper

function.

_Sixth_: Credit granted to facilitate the sale, transfer and

distribution of consumable commodities, the necessaries of life, is

filling its proper function from a commercial point of view.

_Seventh_: Credit extended in the form of acceptances of checks,

drafts or bills of exchange, growing out of the actual production and

distribution of the necessaries of life, is filling its proper function

from a commercial point of view.

_Eighth_: Credit obtained through accommodation acceptances or

indorsements is a bane to and peril of commerce, especially if such

credit is used in real estate investments, and more particularly in

speculation.

_Ninth_: Credit granted upon real estate securities should depend

entirely upon the investment fund of the country for its cancelation.

So far as such credit is canceled by appropriating the commercial fund

of the country, labor will be thrown out of employment, production and

consumption will cease to a corresponding degree, and this will measure

the amount of human suffering that is sure to follow.

_Tenth_: Real estate is not a proper basis for currency, because it

is not a consumable commodity with a ready market where it can be

converted into gold and because the value of real estate from the

standpoint of our currency needs is unlimited and therefore necessarily

not convertible into gold coin which is always essential to a sound

currency.

The history of credit granted to our Government or forced by our

Government from the people will furnish plenty of food for our

appetites, humble our pride, and recall most sickening experiences one

week from tonight. Don't you think so, Mr. Banker?

MR. BANKER: I certainly do.

MR. LAWYER: So do I. And even then we cannot do the subject half

justice; but I suppose that we must get through some time.

UNCLE SAM: I see that Mr. Farmer is now wide awake, but that Mr.

Laboringman over there is starting for the land of nod, because Mr.

Farmer is not keeping him awake by his snoring, so I think I'd better

say good night.

EIGHTH NIGHT

COLONIAL CREDIT MONEY

UNCLE SAM: When we parted last Wednesday night, we all agreed to make

our experiences in Government issues of money the subject of inquiry

tonight, and I presume you have all been spending your days and nights

in studying American history, that is, in studying me.

MR. MERCHANT: I have put more work into the question of our Government

issues of money than into any subject in my life in the same length of

time, principally because I knew Mr. Farmer used to be what we called

a Green-backer some years ago and I wanted to be ready if he happened

to still entertain those ideas and was still subject to those fits of

madness that came over him before he paid off the mortgage on his farm.

But that's ancient history now, and he's holding the mortgage on the

other fellow's farm. Now, Mr. Farmer, don't get hot, for I don't mean

any disrespect to you, but only to recall that craze for fiat money

when you and I were much younger than we are now. Then again, you seem

to have had a real revelation during our last talk, and to have been

converted to the principle that there could be too much paper money.

MR. FARMER: That's all right, Mr. Merchant, but I well remember that

I was not alone when I used to advocate greenbacks without limit. Mr.

Banker over there was in the same boat with me.

MR. BANKER: Right you are, Mr. Farmer, and there was not a man in this

immediate neighborhood then except old Judge Jones who did not agree

with us, but we've traveled some since then.

MR. LAWYER: Well, gentlemen, I am a little surprised to find you all

so completely convinced that Government issues of money are to be

condemned before a fair trial. I half imagine that Mr. Manufacturer

over there will sympathize with me in my contention for the

constitutional power, and the wisdom of issuing United States Notes.

MR. MANUFACTURER: You are very sadly mistaken about me; I am ready to

prove that you are mistaken, both as to the wisdom and constitutional

right of the Government to issue money even if you are a lawyer,

and ought to know all about the constitution. I don't claim to know

very much about the money question, generally speaking, but like Mr.

Merchant I have made a special study of this particular feature of it.

I am convinced there is only one side to this question, however many

sides there may be to some other phases of it, and we do not have to

leave the history of our own country for overwhelming proof of the

folly of it. I for one do not believe that the Government has any

constitutional right to issue money.

MR. LAWYER: Well, Well!

MR. MERCHANT: We'll make you say "well, well" before we get through

with you, if it takes till morning.

MR. MANUFACTURER: It won't take until morning and when we get through

with him, he will be finished for fair, I think.

MR. LABORINGMAN: We are evidently going to have some fun tonight. You

seem to think that you have Mr. Lawyer in chancery. Now, blaze away. I

want you to nail Mr. Lawyer on the greenback question, if you can; for

he has been getting the best of you on several occasions; personally,

I hope I will never get any less of the greenbacks as they are good

enough for me.

MR. MERCHANT: But they are not good enough for you, Mr. Laboringman,

nor for anyone else, if they are not worth one hundred cents on the

dollar; or if they are ever liable to be worth less than one hundred

cents on the dollar; or if they are teaching an economic falsehood,

so long as they remain in existence; or if they are positively doing

the business interests of the country actual harm by excluding a

corresponding amount of gold, and finally, if they have no legal right

for existence today, even though one may admit for the sake of the

argument that it was necessary to issue them to save the nation, an

admission which I will not make.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Good for you, Mr. Merchant, that statement has the

right ring to it. The greenback is guilty of every one of the charges

that you make from my point of view, and so it must always be with

every Government issue of money.

You may go back to the very first Government issue of paper money in

this country, and follow the practice down to this very hour, and it

has left a trail of dishonesty, disaster, ruin and misery unmatched by

any other single cause. In my contention for this statement I am going

to rely for my historical facts upon George Bancroft, the greatest

American historian of our earlier period.

In the fall of 1690, upon the return of an unsuccessful expedition

which Massachusetts had sent out to capture Quebec, the general court,

the then legislative power, ordered an issue of "£7,000 ($35,000) of

printed bills of equal value with money." And the balance of the cost

which was £40,000 or $200,000 was issued the following day.

In July, 1692, within nineteen months of the earliest emission,

the first legislature under the new charter which transformed the

self-governing colony of Massachusetts Bay into a direct dependency

of Great Britain, made "all these bills of public credit current

within this province in all payments equivalent to money, excepting

specialties and contracts made before the publication" of this new law.

Their credit was supported by receiving them in all public payments at

a premium of 5 per cent.

_Immediately all the coins then in Massachusetts were exported to

England and the new stock followed as fast as it came in from abroad._

The vain sorrow of the province expressed itself in 1697 by the

prohibition of "the export of coin, silver money or bullion." In June,

a joint committee of the Council and representatives, to be aided by

the advice of merchants and others, was appointed to consider how to

revive trade, and find out some suitable medium to supply the scarcity

of "money"; and it is to be noted that the word "money" in all colonial

legislation was used exclusively for gold and silver coin.

The first issue of Bills of Credit of Massachusetts, after it became a

Royal Province, was in November, 1702, for £10,000 in value "equal to

money," but to be accepted in all public payments at the advance of 5

per cent.

The passion for borrowing spread like flame on the dry prairie. In

November, 1714, Massachusetts ordered £50,000 to be let out by trustees

to the inhabitants of the province for five years on real security,

at 5 per cent per annum, to be paid back in five annual installments.

The Act was a sacrifice of the public interests to borrowers, who

were to return their loan only after a lapse of time, sufficient to

insure the very great depreciation of the paper in which it was to

be paid. Moreover, the borrowers needed an enforcement by law of the

circulation of the paper which they borrowed: swiftly, therefore, in

December, 1715, under a pretext "to prevent the oppression of debtors"

a stringent statute made the bills legal tender for all debts that had

been, or should be contracted, between the 30th of October, 1705, and

the 30th of October, 1722.

The loan of Bills of Credit by Massachusetts in 1714 was managed at

the seat of Government. But why should Boston be favored? "That the

husbandry, fishery and other trades of the province might be encouraged

and promoted," Bills of Credit on the province to the amount of

£100,000 were in 1716 ordered to be distributed to a loan office in

each county. But why should borrowers in the smaller townships be

forced to travel to their shire towns? Let a public money lender be

near every man's door. By the statute of March, 1721, £50,000 were

distributed among borrowers in each of the several towns according

to its proportion in the last province tax. Again in 1728, £60,000 in

Bills of Credit were proportionately loaned among the several towns,

even on personal security, at the rate of 6 per cent for six years,

after which repayment was to be made in five yearly installments. Of

course, "money" disappeared; not even a single penny was to be had; the

small change became of paper.

The next development of the colonial system of paper money was a

partial repudiation, so far as Massachusetts was concerned. In

February, 1737, less than forty-seven years after the first emission

of Bills of Credit by Massachusetts, that colony issued £9,000 of a

new tenor of which one dollar was to be equal to three of the old,

and which, after five years, was to be redeemed at par in silver and

gold. When the time of redemption came around they were not paid off,

but by a further repudiation four pounds for one was made the rate in

exchanging the old tenor for the new.

On the 9th of January, 1739, the general court in Massachusetts made

this confession: "The emissions of great quantities of bills of public

credit, without certain provision for their redemption by lawful money

in convenient time, have already stripped us of all our money and

brought them into contempt to the great scandal of the government; for

the remedy thereof this province hath fixed the value of their bills in

lawful money, and the time of their redemption in 1742 new style."

But that year went by and relief had not been found. In 1744, James

Allen, the preacher of the annual election sermon, from the pulpit,

addressed the Governor in this wise: "Be the means of delivering us

from the perplexing difficulties we are involved in by an unhappy

medium, uncertain as the wind and fluctuating like the waves of the

sea, through the unrighteousness thereof the land mourneth, and the

cries of many are going up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth."

In 1745, people of Massachusetts took the largest part in the brilliant

enterprise which ended in the Louisburg campaign, and were to receive

from the British Parliament some payment for their extraordinary

expenses in the expedition.

In February, 1748, Massachusetts, while awaiting its share of this

remuneration, invited the governments of Connecticut, New Hampshire and

Rhode Island to join in abolishing the use of Bills of Credit; but as

no one of the three gave effectual heed to the summons, the people of

Massachusetts proceeded alone. It was estimated that about £2,200,000

of their Bills of Credit would be outstanding in the year 1749, that

is, $11,000,000. In January of that year an act was passed redeeming

the bills of the old issue or tenor at the rate of 45 shillings, those

of the new issue or tenor at the rate of 11s. and 3d. for one Spanish

dollar; a rate which somewhat exceeded their market value at the time.

The Bills of Credit of New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Connecticut were

excluded by most stringent laws, and Massachusetts, with its quickened

industry and established credit, "sat as a Queen among the Provinces."

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Manufacturer, you must have gotten your information

from the same source that I obtained mine; all that you've said sounds

very much like George Bancroft, whose history of this question I've

just read. Since my ancestors came from Connecticut, I am going to tell

her tale of woe.

In June, 1709, Connecticut put forth £8,000 of bills, or $40,000; then

soon followed that by £11,000 more, which were "to be in value equal to

money, and to be accordingly accepted in all public payments."

In October, 1718, Connecticut, to prevent oppression by the rigorous

exaction of money, declared its Bills of Credit legal tender for

debt contracted between the 12th day of July, 1709, and the 12th day

of July, 1727. The time for the operation of the law was afterwards

extended to 1735.

In the year 1733 Connecticut loaned interest-bearing bills for nearly

£50,000. In May, 1740, it issued £30,000 of a new issue of which

£22,000 were to be loaned to freeholders of the colony on mortgage,

or personal security, to be repaid one half in four years, the other

half in eight years in current bills, or hemp, or duck, or canvas at

their current market price. These bills were made legal tender in all

payments. But this provision was censured by the lords of trade in

England, and in the following November it was repealed.

Roger Sherman, the greatest statesman of Connecticut, gave his mind

to the questions about money and mediums, commerce and exchanges,

and having mastered them in 1752, under the name of Philoeuonomos,

"the lover of just laws," he addressed to the men of Connecticut "a

caveat" against injustice or an inquiry into the evil consequences of

a fluctuating medium of exchange. These are some of his words: "The

Legislature of Connecticut have at length taken effectual care to

prevent a further depreciation of the Bills of this colony; the other

Governments (meaning New Hampshire and Rhode Island) not having taken

the like prudent care, their Bills of Credit are still sinking in their

value...." "_Money ought to be something of certain value it being that

whereby other things are to be valued_ ..." and this I would lay down

as a principle that can't be denied that a debtor ought not to pay

any debts with less value that what was contracted for, without the

consent of, or against the will of the creditor.... "If what is used as

a medium of exchange is fluctuating in its value, it is no better than

unjust weights and measures, both of which are condemned by the law

of God and man; and, therefore, the longest and most universal custom

could never make the use of such a medium either lawful or reasonable.

"We in this Colony are seated on a very fruitful soil, the product

whereof with our labor and industry and the divine blessing thereon,

would sufficiently furnish us with and procure us all the necessaries

of life and as good a medium of exchange as any people in the world

have or can desire. But so long as we part with our most valuable

commodities for such Bills of Credit, as are no profit, we shall spend

a great part of our labor and substance for that which will not profit

us; whereas, if these things were reformed we might be as independent,

flourishing and happy a colony as any in the British Dominion."

In May of the same year, the famous traveler, John Ledyard, and

twenty-five other merchants of Connecticut caught up the theme, and in

a petition to their legislature said: "The medium of trade whereby our

dealings are valued and weighed, ought to be esteemed as sacred as any

weights and measures whatever, and, to maintain justice, must be kept

as stable, for as a false weight and a false dollar is an abomination

to the Lord, a false and unstable medium is equally so, as it occasions

as much iniquity, and is at least as injurious."

The Connecticut Assembly supported these memorialists, excluded

the bills of paper money of Rhode Island, and overcoming every

embarrassment, at last, like Massachusetts, redeemed every nine

shillings of its paper money with one shilling in specie. After the

first day of November, 1756, all accounts in Connecticut were kept in

lawful money.

MR. MANUFACTURER: The experience of the other New England States is

practically the same as that you have just recited in Connecticut. In

1717 the Council of New Hampshire was zealous to follow the fashion of

issuing paper money by loan and issued £15,000.

Rhode Island, also, in July, 1710, on its first emission of Bills

of Credit, declared them equal in value to "money," and made them

receivable in all public payments. In November, 1711, Rhode Island

discharged a claim by a loan of its Bills of Credit to the amount of

£300 for four years free of interest.

New Jersey, too, tried its hand at the same scheme, following the lead

of Pennsylvania. In December, 1783, it issued £31,250, and in 1786, it

struggled hard to issue a larger amount, but William Patterson, who

was afterwards a member of the Supreme Court, resisted the proposal

with inflexible courage, and here are some of the words which he

employed: "An increase of paper money, especially if it be a tender,

will destroy what little credit is left, will bewilder conscience in

the mazes of dishonest speculations, will allure some and constrain

others into the perpetration of knavish acts, will turn vice into a

legal virtue, and sanctify iniquity by law. Men have, in the ordinary

transactions of life, temptations enough to lead them from the path

of rectitude; why then pass laws for the purpose, or give legislative

sanction to positive acts of iniquity? Lead us not into temptation

is a part of our Lord's prayer worthy of attention at all times, and

especially at the present."

In March, 1723, when there was universal peace, borrowers undermined

the scruples of Pennsylvania, and that colony issued bills of credit

for loans to individuals, and not only compelled creditors to receive

the bills at par, or "lose their debts," but ordered sellers to

receive them at their nominal value in the sale of goods, or lands, or

tenements or "forfeit a sum from 30 shillings to £50."

Again, on March 21, 1783, Pennsylvania, which hardly knew what it was

doing and had not yet gathered up the strength of its will, was the

first to renew in peace the evil usage of the times of war, and issued

$300,000 in what was called Treasury Notes, the lowest of one-quarter

of a dollar, the highest at twenty dollars. Two years later, but after

great resistance, its legislature issued £150,000, the lowest note

of 3 pence. But in the decisive hour Pennsylvania, too, proved the

implacable foe of paper money.

In 1733, £90,000 in its bills of credit were brought into circulation

by loans of 4 per cent by the legislature of Maryland.

Virginia was involved from May, 1755, in measures of war, and immediate

and increasing issues of paper bills were made which from the

beginning were a lawful tender for private debts. For the new "notes"

of April, 1757, it was further ordered that any seller who should

demand more for his goods in notes than in gold or silver coin, should

"forfeit 20 per cent of their value." ... In 1781, in the month of

March, Virginia directed the emission of £10,000,000 and authorized

£5,000,000 more; and the Continental paper currency and its own were

made a legal tender in discharge of all debts and contracts, except

contracts which expressly promised the contrary.

In 1780 North Carolina directed the emission of more than £1,000,000,

and such further sums as the exigencies of the state might require; in

the next year gave authority at one dash to issue $26,250,000 of paper

dollars bearing 6 per cent interest. Again in 1783, North Carolina

emitted £100,000, declaring each pound of the emission equal to two and

one-half Spanish milled dollars, and a tender in all payments whatever.

In 1785, the state emitted £100,000 more.

South Carolina, too, as late as 1785, permitted itself to be persuaded

to lend among the constituents of its legislature £100,000 in paper

bills of the state, which were to pass in payments to the treasury of

the state but were not otherwise made legal tender. The state soon

perceived that the paper banished more gold and silver than the amount

of the bills which were to take their place.... This was done, although

its legislature on the pretext of creating a fund to sink former Bills

of Credit, and to encourage trade and commerce in July, 1712, had

ordered £52,000 in new bills of credit to be stamped and put out at

interest in loans. In December, 1717, they passed this statute: "It is

found by experience that the multiplicity of the Bills of Credit hath

been the cause of the ruin of our trade and commerce, and hath been the

great evil of this province, and that it ought with all expedition to

be remedied."

Finally, the great Empire State, with all the rest, entered eagerly

into the defense of its northern frontier, and in November, 1709,

for the first time involved itself in the use of Bills of Credit. In

1770, the legislature of New York passed an Act for emitting £120,000

in Bills of Credit to be put out on loan. Again in April, 1786, the

opening year of the final great movement for a closer union of the

state, it placed an emission of £200,000 in Bills of Credit with loan

officers, to be loaned on mortgage security; and they were made a legal

tender in any suit for debt or damages, and the costs of suit. The

bills were further to be received for duties to be collected at the

Port of New York by the state. Gen. MacDougal, the brave soldier and

patriot, though sick unto death, insisted upon being carried to the

Senate, that, as the last act of his public life, he might give his

voice against the proposal to emit paper money.

In 1780, the United States began repudiation by issuing a new paper

dollar equal to forty of their previous issues. After their new

constitution was established, all that remained of the bills of the

Continental Congress were called in at the rate of one dollar in silver

for one hundred dollars impressed on paper.

MR. FARMER: While you gentlemen were studying Bancroft, I have been

reading Horace White upon this question of Government issues of money,

and thought I would not give myself away until after you exposed

your hands. You've piled up facts, but you've given us a very slight

impression of the effect that these money issues had, and therefore I

am going to give you the benefit of my explanation which I think throws

another and very important light upon the subject.

Mr. White refers to a pamphlet circulated in 1743, which speaks of the

Bills of Credit in New England issued on loan "to themselves, members

of the legislature and to other borrowers, their friends, at easy

and fallaceous Lays, to be repaid at very long Periods; and by their

provincial laws made a tender in all contracts, trade and business,

whereby currencies, various and illegal, have been introduced which

from their continued and depreciated nature in the course of many

years, have much oppressed widows and orphans and all other creditors."

The same writer gives special attention to the colony of Rhode Island,

which had "defrauded more in a few years than any of the most wicked

administrations in the several nations of Europe have done in several

centuries. A contract made thirty years ago for £100,000 sterling in

value is at present reduced to a nominal 32 shillings."

White says that in addition to legal tender acts there was a great

variety of laws to compel people to sell their property at the same

price for bills of credit as for silver. The debtor class was not

satisfied with forcing depreciated paper upon creditors for past

obligations, but insisted that they ought to be able to buy as much

property with the paper as with specie. Those who had been forced to

take the paper for past debts naturally joined in this demand, and the

legislatures agreed with them. Hence we find in nearly all the colonies

severe penalties on those who charged more for their goods, lands or

services in Bills of Credit than in money. In some cases the penalty

was a fine, in others imprisonment, in others confiscation of property

offered.

The usual course of events where Bills of Credit were issued was as

follows: (1) emission; (2) disappearance of specie; (3) counterfeiting;

(4) wearing out of bills; (5) calling in and replacing worn and

counterfeited issues with new ones; (6) extending the time for old

ones to run, especially those which had been placed on loan; (7)

depreciation; (8) repudiation of early issues in part and the emissions

of others called "New Tenor."

Dr. Douglas says that Massachusetts had at one time "old tenor,

middle tenor, new tenor first, new tenor second." Rhode Island had an

indefinite number of tenors.

All sorts of opprobrious epithets were heaped upon them. They were

called invidious statutes, old, worn, torn, tattered, shattered,

ragged, mutilated, defaced, obliterated, illegible and "unfit to pass."

The depreciation of the Colonial bills varied in the different

colonies. In Massachusetts the maximum depreciation was 11 for 1 (the

standard being "proclamation money"). In Connecticut it was 8 for 1. In

1763, the value of the New Hampshire shilling was a little less than a

half penny; in 1771, it vanished altogether. Rhode Island owed tenor

bills in 1770 that were worth 26 to 1. Those of North Carolina were 10

for 1; of South Carolina 7 for 1.

Here is Mr. White's graphic description of the times: "The pamphlets

and records of the colonial period are filled with accounts of the

distress and demoralization caused by depreciated paper made legal

tender. As all loans were so payable, the accumulations of age, and

the inheritance of orphans dwindled. So, too, did the earnings of the

wageworker. In order to avoid the losses from a depreciating standard

of value, resort was had by working men to 'store pay,' and here they

were generally cheated. Trustees and executors, who had money in their

hands which belonged to other people, and who saw how things were

going, often postponed the payment on frivolous pretext, since each

delay enabled them to settle their accounts with less value, thus

devouring widows' houses. Not only was bad blood stirred up by the

resistance of the Royal Governors, but a spirit of lawlessness was

engendered against the local assemblies, if they showed a disposition

to resist the demands of the _green-backers_ of that day. Even after

the revolution the legislature of New Hampshire was mobbed because it

refused to legal tender bills. One of the demands of Shays' rebellion

in Massachusetts was for more paper money. In Rhode Island, after

the revolution, a general system of repudiation of debts, public and

private, was undertaken, and carried through by means of legal tender

paper in spite of the decisions of her courts."

However bad these colonial bills of credit proved to be, if it were

possible those of the revolutionary period were still worse.

Even before the Continental Congress assembled the separate colonies

began to issue Bills of Credit. When the Continental Congress met in

June, 1775, Franklin urged that the bills should bear interest, in

order to prevent depreciation. He even urged that the interests should

be payable in "hard dollars," but this was voted impracticable.

All seemed to be in confusion, and in this unsettled state it was voted

in July, 1775, to issue due bills for 2,000,000 Spanish milled dollars,

to be sunk by taxes in four successive years, beginning November 30,

1779, the taxes to be levied and collected by the states in proportion

to their population. These bills were not legal tender at the time of

their issue. The Congress had no power to make them so, but in January,

1777, it was recommended that the States should do so, and this they

did, one after another, in one way or another. Before the two millions

were issued, another million was wanted, and was authorized with three

million more, before the end of the year; and still they came nine

millions more, or until fifteen in all were out, before independence

was declared. This was called Continental Currency to distinguish it

from the issues of the separate states. Mr. White says from this time

the demon of "fiat money" had possession of the country, and worked

its will on the inhabitants. The issues ran on in an increasing volume

till they amounted to $240,000,000 in the year 1779. In 1781 the whole

mass became worthless. On this subject the essays of Pelatiah Webster

have become classic. Mr. Webster, it is thought by some, was the author

of the Constitution. He was a merchant of Philadelphia and an ardent

patriot. He wrote "we have suffered more from this than from every

cause of calamity; it has killed more men, pervaded and corrupted the

choicest interests of our country more and done more injustice than

even the arms and artifices of our enemies."

Professor Sumner says that when the depreciation was going on rapidly a

man might lose his whole wages while earning them.

Naturally, the next thing in order was the establishment of prices, for

which purpose conventions were called. The first one held at Providence

was composed of delegates from the four New England states. It fixed

the prices at which imported goods might be sold, but an exception was

made of arms and ammunition in order to encourage their importation.

Of course the proceedings in Connecticut were substantially the same.

This state, however, had a law to prohibit persons from buying any more

goods than the select men, or county commissioners, should judge to

be necessary for the use of their respective families. Anything like

prudence in laying in supplies was thus forbidden.

A Price Convention of the six Middle States was held at York, Pa., in

March, 1777, but was unable to agree upon a single point.

When the Price Conventions failed of their object, new ones were held

fixing new limits, for example fourfold the prices of 1774, then

eightfold, then tenfold, then twentyfold--terrorism being applied in

each case to enforce the decrees. Country folks accused town folks

of extortion, and threatened to come in and take what they wanted by

force. Town folks accused country folks of withholding their produce,

and so laws were enacted against withholders. Anonymous hand bills and

broad-sides were circulated threatening vengeance on merchants.

As a result of such irrational business disturbances, Boston was, in

October, 1779, on the verge of starvation; money transactions had

nearly ceased and business was done by barter.

A soldier's pay had dropped by depreciation from $7.00 per month to 33

cents, although it had been twice raised by Congress. Washington could

not move his soldiers to Yorktown till Robert Morris had borrowed hard

money from Rochambeau for their back pay.

In March, 1780, Congress tried the colonial experiment of "new tenor"

in a very awkward and roundabout way, and declared that "old tenor"

to be worth 40 to 1; the actual depreciation being 60 for 1. As it

was supposed that $200,000,000 of Continental money was out, this

was a repudiation of all but $5,000,000 of it. The depreciation then

went on more rapidly than before. The "new tenor" bills started at

a depreciation of 2 for 1, which became 3 for 1, even before they

reached the army, and dropped to 6 to 1 in a few months. Old tenor

went at a galloping pace at 500 for 1 in Philadelphia, when it ceased

to circulate. In the remoter districts of the South, it continued

in circulation nearly a year longer, and until the depreciation had

reached 1,000 to 1. The southern people, when they learned that

they had been using the stuff long after it had become worthless in

the North, thought that they had been cheated by the Yankees, thus

intensifying the sectional distrust which was already so dangerous.

Continental money was now an object of execration and afterwards of

derision. "Not worth a continental" became a synonym for absolute

worthlessness, and remains an axiom to this day. In the Act of Congress

approved August 4, 1790, authority was granted for funding the bills

in 6 per cent bonds "at the rate of $100 in the said bill for $1.00 in

specie." Only $7,000,000 turned up to take advantage of this provision.

MR. BANKER: I want to be perfectly frank with the rest of you men. Last

Thursday I was over at Mr. Lawyer's office and we got into a discussion

about this matter. I was literally astounded to find him in favor of

Government issues of money, and that he actually thought such issues

were constitutional. I knew how Mr. Merchant and Mr. Manufacturer

stood, for we had talked the matter over some time ago. So we got

together and divided up the work we should each of us do in order to

convince Mr. Lawyer that he was wrong on both points.

From what has been shown with respect to the facts I am sure that Mr.

Lawyer must be convinced that the principle at least of Government

issues of legal tender paper money is unsound; for all the evidence,

as we have seen for 100 years, from 1690 to 1790, is all on one side.

Indeed not a single exception can be found anywhere. You will remember

that everyone of the thirteen original states tried fiat legal tender

paper money, and then when they all united under the Continental

Congress, they tried it altogether; but the result was precisely the

same.

_First_: You will remember, came the issuance of the Bills of Credit,

as they called them, or Greenbacks, as we call them, paper money.

_Second_: And immediately all the gold and silver disappeared because

driven from the channels of trade, with something cheaper with which

the debtor could cancel his obligations.

_Third_: Dishonesty, dishonor, fraud, disaster, ruin and repudiation

followed each other in quick succession.

_Fourth_: Then came the return to sound conditions when paper issues

were discarded and the effort to make something out of nothing was

abandoned.

Mr. Lawyer, I want to ask you now whether you do not think we have made

a case against you so far as the unwisdom and utter folly of Government

issues of paper money is concerned.

MR. LAWYER: I must admit that the facts are overwhelming. I had never

taken the time nor trouble to investigate the subject, but had assumed

that one of the functions of our Government was the issuance of money,

even paper money, if you like. It seems from what has been shown here

and last Wednesday night as well that this scheme of issuing paper

money has been tried, not only by everyone of our thirteen Colonies

and the Continental Congress, but by practically every country of the

world at some time or other. It was tried in Austria, England, France,

Germany, Italy, Russia and is now going on in nearly every one of the

South American countries with the same experience, I am informed, that

other countries have suffered. Now, so far as the facts have been

disclosed, there is not a single instance in which the scheme has been

tried that has not resulted in precisely the same way--complete failure

and ultimate dishonor and repudiation if persisted in as a principle.

Under the circumstances I must say, as every fair-minded man must,

that the practice has been an absolute failure, and therefore it must

be admitted that the principle must be unsound, for it seems to have

worked nowhere, although tried under every conceivable condition. Of

course I am compelled to give in on the unsoundness of the scheme. Now,

you understand, that my admission as to the unsoundness and unwisdom of

the practice does not carry with it my admission that the United States

Government has no constitutional right or authority to issue paper

money if it chooses to do so.

MR. BANKER: I understand perfectly well that your admission of the one

point has nothing whatever to do with the constitutional question, but

I wanted to know your conclusion after a consideration of the facts as

presented first.

I think everyone here will agree that the disastrous experiences of

the colonies and of the Continental Congress in issuing paper money

must have forced this question upon the minds of the framers of the

Constitution, as one of the very greatest importance to be settled by

them. Certainly what they thought about it would indicate what they

intended to do. I will first show this by what they said, and then I

will demonstrate what they intended to do by what they actually did do

in the Constitutional Convention.

Alexander Hamilton, in June, 1783, set forth explicitly in a resolution

for a new Constitution of the United States of America his deliberate

opinion in these words: "To emit an unfunded paper as the sign of value

ought not to continue a formal part in the Constitution, nor ever

hereafter to be employed; being in its nature pregnant with abuses

and liable to be made the engine of imposition and fraud; holding out

temptations equally pernicious to the integrity of Government and to

the morals of the people."

In 1786, Thomas Paine, the author of "Common Sense," in an opinion on

Paper Money used this language: "The laws of the country ought to be

the standard of equity and calculated to impress on the minds of the

people the moral as well as the legal obligation of political justice.

But tender laws of any kind operate to destroy morality and to dissolve

by the pretence of law what ought to be the principle of _law_ to

_support_, reciprocal justice between man and man; and the punishment

of a member who should move for such a law ought to be _death_."

In the summer of 1785 Richard Henry Lee, then president of Congress,

warned Washington of a plan formed for issuing a large sum of paper

money in the next assembly of their state, adding as his opinion: "The

greatest foes in the world could not devise a more effectual plan for

ruining Virginia. I should suppose every friend to his country, every

honest and sober man, would join heartily to reprobate so nefarious a

plan of speculation."

Washington replied to Lee in these words: "I never have heard, and I

hope I never shall hear, any serious mention of a paper emission in

this state. Yet ignorance is the tool of design and is often set to

work suddenly and unexpectedly."

In 1787, on the 9th day of January, Washington wrote to Jabes Bowen as

follows: "Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will

ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to

every species of fraud and injustice."

To Mr. Stone, a member of the Senate of Maryland, who appealed to

Washington to allow his opinion on this subject to be made publicly

known, Washington wrote just three months before the opening of the

Constitutional convention, as follows: "As my sentiments thereon have

been fully and decidedly expressed long before the assembly either of

Maryland or of this state was convened, I do not scruple to declare,

that if I had had a voice in your legislature, it would have been given

decidedly against a paper emission upon the general principles of its

utility, as a representative and the necessity of it as a medium.

"To assign reasons for this opinion would be as unnecessary as

tedious. The ground has been so often trod that a place hardly

remains untouched. In a word the necessity arising from the want of

specie is represented as greater than it really is. I contend that

it is by the substance, not with the shadow of a thing, we are to be

benefited. The wisdom of man, in my humble opinion, cannot at this

time devise a plan, by which the credit of paper money would be long

supported; consequently, depreciation keeps pace with the quantity of

the emission, and articles for which it is exchanged rise in a greater

ratio than the sinking value of the money. Wherein then is the farmer,

the planter, the artisan benefited? An evil equally great is the door

it immediately opens for speculation, by which the least designing, and

perhaps most valuable part of the community are preyed upon by the more

knowing and crafty speculators."

In 1785, George Mason wrote "they may pass a law to issue paper money,

but twenty laws will not make the people receive it. Paper money is

founded upon fraud and knavery."

On the first day of August, 1786, Washington wrote to Jefferson: "Other

states are falling into the very foolish and wicked plans of emitting

paper money."

In May, 1788, Charles Pinckney, in a speech in the Convention of South

Carolina, said: "I apprehend these general reasons will be found true

with respect to paper money; that experience has shown that in every

state where it has been practiced since the Revolution, it always

carries the gold and silver out of the country, and impoverishes it."

John Marshall, the greatest of all our Chief Justices, the man who

breathed into the dry bones of a constitutional contract, the soul of

nationality, expressed himself at various times in these words: "He

had 'an unabated zeal for the exact observance of public and private

engagements.' He rightly insisted that the only ways of relief for

pecuniary 'distresses' were 'industry and frugality'; he condemned

'all the wild projects of the moment; he rejected as a delusion every

attempt at relief from pecuniary distresses' by the emission of 'paper

money' or by 'a depreciated medium of commerce.'" George Bancroft said:

"These were his opinions through life. He gave them to the public in

1807, and twenty-four years later in a revised edition of his 'Life of

Washington,' he confirmed his early convictions by the authority of his

maturest life."

James Madison, who was probably more responsible for the Constitution

than any other single individual, used these words in addressing the

delegates of Virginia in the year 1786: "Paper money is unjust; to

creditors, if a legal tender; to debtors, if not legal tender, by

increasing the difficulty of getting specie. It is unconstitutional,

for it affects the rights of property, as much as taking away equal

value in land. It is pernicious, destroying confidence between

individuals; discouraging commerce; enriching sharpers; vitiating

morals; reversing the end of government, and conspiring with the

examples of other states to disgrace Republican Government in the eyes

of mankind." As the result of his words and the well-known opinions

of Washington, Lee and Mason, the House of Delegates of Virginia on

the first day of November resolved by a vote of 85 against 17 that an

emission of paper money would be "unjust, impolitic and destructive of

public and private confidence, and of that virtue which is the basis

of Republican Government."

Disquieting symptoms having appeared in Virginia, Madison, in April,

enjoined Monroe, a member of its assembly, to battle paper money.

Madison enumerated among the evils for which the new Constitution

should provide a remedy, the "familiar violation of contracts in the

form of depreciated paper, made a legal tender." In his notes for his

own guidance in the Federal Convention, he laid down the principle

that "Paper money may be deemed an aggression on the rights of other

states," and just five weeks before the time for the meeting of the

convention, he wrote from Congress, then sitting in New York, to Edmund

Randolph, as follows: "There has never been a moment since the peace,

at which the federal assent would have been given to paper money."

In conclusion, Mr. Lawyer, I want you, because you are a particularly

good reader, and ought to be more interested in this subject than

anybody else, if you are wrong, to read the story of the Constitutional

Convention as related by George Bancroft.

MR. LAWYER: I will very gladly do so.

"The convention of the states for the reform of the confederacy

organized itself by electing as its president George Washington, who of

all the public men in his day was the most decided in his convictions

and the most outspoken in his words on the inherent dishonesty of

irredeemable paper bills.

"Virginia took the lead, and Randolph, its governor, in his opening

speech drew attention to paper money by reminding its hearers that the

patriotic authors of the confederation did their work 'in the infancy

of the science of constitutions and of confederacies, when the havoc of

paper money had not been foreseen.'

"Among the delegates from Connecticut were Oliver Ellsworth, who in

the Federal Congress had repeatedly served on committees for the

reform of the federal constitution, and Roger Sherman, who, in

1752, had published his conviction that good laws and poor money are

irreconcilable. They agreed to insist in the convention 'that the

legislatures of the individual states ought not to possess a right to

emit bills of credit for a currency, or in any manner to obstruct the

recovery of debts, whereby the interests of foreigners or the citizens

of any other state may be affected.'

"The refusal of the convention to confer on the legislature of the

United States the power to emit bills of credit or irredeemable paper

money in any form is so complete that, according to all rules by

which public documents are interpreted, it should not be treated as

questionable; but as the truth in this case is of infinite importance,

and has been questioned by those in authority, the wrong done to the

Constitution may justify a simple narrative of the facts, which ample

and indisputable records establish, and which no power can alter.

"The journal of the convention for framing the Constitution was kept

under the supervision of its members, and its authority is vouched for

by Washington, not only as the presiding officer of the convention, but

as President of the United States in a special message to Congress.

"By a clause in the ninth article of confederation of the United States

of America, and only by that clause, the confederated states had

authority 'to emit bills on the credit of the United States.'

"Of the legislature of the United States, under our present

constitution, the court insists that 'Congress is clearly authorized to

emit Bills of Credit.' But is it so?

"The eighth clause of the seventh article, in the first draft of the

Constitution, was as follows: 'The legislature of the United States

shall have the power to borrow money and emit bills on the credit of

the United States.' The journal of the convention for August 16th

makes this record: 'It was moved and seconded to strike out the words

"and emit bills," and the motion to strike out these words "passed in

the affirmative. Yeas: New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut,

Pennsylvania, Delaware, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina,

Georgia--9. Nays: New Jersey, Maryland--2." So the convention by a

vote of more than four to one, refused to grant to the legislature of

the United States the power "to emit bills on the credit of the United

States."'

"For the interpretation of this record, Madison, the best possible

witness, has left this note: 'Striking out the words cut off the

pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a

tender either for public or private debts.'

"Madison was the chief author of the new Constitution. Its opponent,

Luther Martin, the attorney-general of Maryland, a delegate to the

Federal Convention and present at the debate, read to the Maryland

House of Delegates a paper, in which he gave his account of the purpose

of the Convention; his evidence agrees exactly with that of Madison,

and for nearly a hundred years his fidelity as a witness was as little

questioned as that of Madison. Here are two witnesses: Madison, who

approved the prohibition, and Martin, who condemned it; the court

pushes the testimony of Madison aside as if he had 'not explained

himself,' though on the point in question his words are as clear as

sunlight. The address of Martin the court rejects as a 'philippic,'

though it contains not a word of invective against any individual, and

does contain the clearly expressed wish of its author 'not to wound the

feelings of any person.'

"We have a record of what was spoken and of what was done in the

Federal Convention kept by Madison, who took upon himself the most

solemn engagement to preserve the truth for the instruction of coming

generations, and whose opportunity, capacity, and integrity no one

questions. His report of what was said and done on the 16th of August

in the Federal Convention preserves the testimony of many witnesses,

taken down as it were by the most capable notary.

"The question before the Convention was: Shall power be granted to the

legislature of the United States 'to emit bills of credit'? The first

witness is Gouverneur Morris, a man free from illusions; a delegate

from the state which contained Philadelphia, then the most opulent city

in the thirteen states; and as by its interests he was nearly connected

with the city and state of New York, he thoroughly represented the

interests of commerce. He moved to strike out the grant of power to

'emit bills on the credit of the United States,' saying: 'If the United

States have credit, such bills will be unnecessary; if they have

not, will be unjust and useless.' The seconder of Gouverneur Morris

was Pierce Butler, a delegate from South Carolina, then the richest

commercial state in the South. He remarked in the course of debate that

'paper is a legal tender in no country in Europe,' and he was urgent to

withhold from the Government of the United States the power to make it

so.

"Madison interposed: 'Will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making'

the bills 'a tender'? Gorham, in reply to Madison, held that no

accompanying prohibition was sufficient to make it safe to grant to the

legislature of the United States the power to emit bills of credit. He

spoke absolutely 'for striking the words out,' saying: 'If the words

stand, they may suggest and lead to the measure.'

"The words of Oliver Ellsworth, our third chief justice, were: 'This is

a favorable moment to shut and bar the door against paper money. The

mischiefs of the various experiments which have been made are now fresh

in the public mind, and have excited the disgust of all the respectable

part of America.'

"Randolph expresses 'his antipathy to paper money'; but, 'could

not agree to strike out the words, as he could not foresee all the

occasions that might arise.'

"James Wilson, in concurrence with Ellsworth, said: 'It will have a

most salutary influence on the credit of the United States to remove

the possibility of paper money. This expedition can never succeed

whilst its mischiefs are remembered; and, as long as it can be

resorted to, it will be a bar to other resources.'

"George Reed spoke for Delaware: 'The words, if not struck out, would

be as alarming as the mark of the beast in Revelation.'

"John Langdon, of New Hampshire, conforming to the wise instructions of

the towns of his state, said: 'I had rather reject the whole plan than

retain the three words "and emit bills."'

"Madison, agreeing with the journal of the convention, records that

the grant of power to emit bills of credit was refused by a majority

of more than four to one. Eleven men took part in the discussion; and

every one of the eleven whether he spoke for or against the grant of

the power, Gouverneur Morris, Pierce Butler, James Madison, Nathaniel

Gorham, George Mason, John F. Mercer, Oliver Ellsworth, Edmund

Randolph, James Wilson, George Reed and John Langdon, each and all,

understood the vote to be a denial to the legislature of the United

States of the power to emit paper money. Take the men, one by one, and

see how weighty is the witness of each individual; take them together

and add the consideration that they, every one of them, unanimously

support each other and are contradicted by no one, and who shall dare

question their testimony? The evidence is perfect; no power to emit

paper money was granted to the legislature of the United States.

"By refusing to the United States the power of issuing bills of credit,

the victory over paper money was but half complete. The same James

Wilson, who twelve days before, with Oliver Ellsworth, had taken a

chief part in refusing to the United States the power to emit paper

money, and the same Roger Sherman, who in 1752 had put forth all his

energy to break up paper money in Connecticut, jointly took the lead.

The first draft of the Constitution had forbidden the states to emit

bills of credit without the consent of the legislature of the United

States; on the 28th of August they jointly offered this motion: 'No

state shall coin money, nor emit bills of credit, nor make anything

but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts,' making the

prohibition absolute. Roger Sherman, animated by zeal for the welfare

of the coming republic of countless millions, exclaims in the debate:

'This is the favorable crisis for crushing paper money.' His word was

the will of the convention, and the states, by a majority of eight

and a half against one and a half--that is, by more than five to

one--forbade the states, under any circumstances, to emit bills of

credit. This is the way in which our Constitution 'shut and barred the

door against paper money' and 'crushed' it.

"Nothing is wanted to the perfect strength of the truth, that the

constitution put an end to paper money in all the United States and

in all the several states.... 'No suggestion of the existence of a

power to make paper a legal tender can be found in the legislative

history of the country. Had such a power lurked in the Constitution,

as constructed by those who ordained and administered it, we should

find it so recorded. The occasion for referring to it has repeatedly

arisen; and had such a power existed, it would have been recognized and

acted on. It is hardly too much to say, therefore, that the uniform and

universal judgment of statesmen, jurists, and lawyers has denied the

constitutional right of Congress to make paper a legal tender for debts

to any extent whatever.'"

Thomas Jefferson's opinion: "The Federal Government--I deny their power

to make paper a legal tender."

MR. BANKER: Now, Mr. Lawyer, you undoubtedly with all your profession

will recognize Daniel Webster as the greatest expounder of the

Constitution. I want you to read what he says and then my case will be

closed on the constitutional right and authority of the Government to

issue paper money.

MR. LAWYER: I will gladly do so. "Most unquestionably there is no legal

tender, and there can be no legal tender, in this country, under the

authority of this Government or any other, but gold and silver, either

the coinage of our own mints, or foreign coins, at rates regulated by

Congress. This is a constitutional principle, perfectly plain, and

of the very highest importance. The states are expressly prohibited

from making anything but gold and silver a tender in payment of debts;

and although no such express prohibition is applied to Congress, yet

as Congress has no power granted to it, in this respect, but to coin

money and to regulate the value of foreign coins, it clearly has no

power to substitute paper, or anything else, for coin, as a tender in

payment of debts and in discharge of contracts. Congress has exercised

this power, fully, in both its branches. It has coined money, and

still coins it; it has regulated the value of foreign coins, and still

regulates their value. The legal tender, therefore, the constitutional

standard of value is established and cannot be overthrown. To overthrow

it would shake the whole system. The constitutional tender is the thing

to be preserved, and it ought to be preserved sacredly, under all

circumstances."

MR. MERCHANT: Well, Mr. Lawyer, what do you really think about the

constitutional question now?

MR. LAWYER: In the light of the facts preceding the Constitutional

Convention, the personal opinions of those who framed it, and what

they actually did in the convention, I will admit I have not a leg to

stand on. The story of our experience so well told by you gentlemen

demonstrating the utter unwisdom of government issues of money, and the

overwhelming evidence on the constitutional question has completely

converted me to your contention. But I was relying in a sort of a

blind way upon the fact that our Supreme Court has held that the

United States notes were lawfully issued. How about that? Have you

investigated it?

MR. BANKER: I have, but the story of the Greenback will take the best

part of another night. Therefore, I move we adjourn. It is enough

glory for one night to have a layman knock out a lawyer upon a

constitutional question.

MR. LAWYER: There is no humiliation in being shown that you are wrong

upon so great a question; I regard it as a piece of disgraceful

cowardice for a man to persist in holding to a position when he is

clearly wrong.

UNCLE SAM: That is the way I like to hear my boys talk. This is really

the longest siege we have had, and you all look as though you had been

undermined, and so we had better say good night.

NINTH NIGHT

UNITED STATES NOTES

UNCLE SAM: Here we are again and all present. Not a single man has

been sick or even reported as indisposed or indifferent since we began

these discussions. You must all be thinking that we are engaged in a

religious duty, a patriotic service, or you are mightily interested in

the subject.

Before we begin, let me recall what was so fully presented last

Wednesday night so that we can keep the mile posts constantly before us.

We then learned that during a hundred years, from 1690 to 1790, every

one of the thirteen colonies experimented with "Bills of Credit,"

"Legal tender" "paper money," or "Greenbacks," as we call them,

and that they issued fiat or "legal tender money" in almost every

conceivable shape, form and way. They issued money against their own

credit; they issued it against real estate mortgages, that is, in

the form of loans secured by mortgages; they issued it against the

personal credit of men in the form of ordinary loans; they issued it

under the authority of the Continental Congress when the Colonies

were all united. But in no case did any one of them, or all of them

combined, escape the certain and universal fate of all such efforts.

The order of events was always the same: (1) Emission of paper money;

(2) depreciation of the issue; (3) disappearance of coin; (4) emission

of more paper money to make up for the depreciation of that already

issued; (5) defrauding of creditors; (6) repudiation; (7) cancelation;

(8) reappearance of gold and silver; (9) resumption of species or coin

payment; (10) a return of that degree of prosperity that the times and

the conditions of the country justified.

Then came that review of the opinions of the framers of the

Constitution and the vote in the Constitutional Convention to strike

out the power to issue "bills of credit" by the general Government by

the decisive vote of 9 to 4, backed up subsequently by the opinions of

Thomas Jefferson and Daniel Webster.

As a result of the night's discussion, Mr. Lawyer was forced to admit

the unwisdom of any such issue of legal tender money, and that in the

light of the evidence, such an issue was without authority of law and

unconstitutional.

MR. BANKER: Uncle Sam, I think it should be stated right here that

every President of the United States and every successive Congress of

the United States down to 1862 recognized the fact that it was the

intention of the members of the Constitutional Convention "to shut and

bar the door against any such issue." Here is what Horace White says:

"During the war of 1812, the Government of the United States issued

Treasury notes to the amount of $36,680,794. All except $3,392,994

were payable to order and payable at a definite time and bore interest

at the rate of five and two-fifths per cent. About two-thirds of them

were of denominations of $100 or more. They did not become a part of

the circulating medium and were not intended to. They were paid to

such creditors of the Government as were willing to receive them, and

they were generally at par until specie payments were suspended in

September, 1814. On November 12, 1814, Mr. Hall, a member of Congress

from Georgia, introduced a bill into the House for an issue of Treasury

notes to be legal tender. The House, by vote of 42 to 95, and without

debate, refused to consider this bill. No other attempt was made to

pass a legal tender bill until 1862.

"In the panic and crisis of 1837-43, during a portion of which time

specie payments were suspended, the Government issued Treasury notes

to the amount of $47,000,000 to meet deficiencies of revenue. All of

these notes bore interest, and were payable at a fixed time. They

did not become a part of the circulating medium. A few were issued by

the Secretary of the Treasury in 1842, bearing only a nominal rate

of interest (one mill per $100 per annum). Such notes had not been

contemplated by Congress. The Committee of Ways and Means of the

House, to whom the subject was referred, reported that the Secretary

had exceeded his authority, but Congress took no action on the report.

It was the opinion of the Committee that these notes were 'Bills of

Credit' within the meaning of the Constitution, and that Congress had

no power to issue 'Bills of Credit.' In 1847, during the war with

Mexico, Treasury notes to the amount of $26,122,100 were issued. They

bore interest at the rate of five and two-fifths and six per cent.

They did not enter into the circulation, and were not intended to.

The foregoing issues of interest bearing Treasury notes were merely

Government loans, of which the securities were in small denominations

and had only short periods to run.

"When specie payments were suspended in 1814, and again in 1837, silver

and small change disappeared because it was worth more per dollar than

the bank notes in circulation. On both occasions private notes and

tickets or less denomination that $1.00, and copper coins were issued

and put in circulation by bridge, ferry, and turnpike companies and

by tradesmen and manufacturers. One hundred and sixty-four varieties

of private copper coin of the period of 1837 have been preserved in

numismatic collections. Most of them bore the names of the issuers who

promised to redeem them.

"Prior to the Civil War, the fiscal operations of the Government were

transacted exclusively with coin, by its own officers, without the

intervention of banks."

MR. MERCHANT: Now it seems to me an interesting question why after

maintaining this policy for more than seventy years from 1789 to 1862,

a fundamentally different view was taken in 1862.

MR. LAWYER: I think I can answer that question, if you will allow me.

You see, I have been looking this matter up since our last discussion,

when you fellows knocked me out, and I am now loaded for bear myself.

Salmon P. Chase, Secretary of the Treasury, probably knew as little

about finance as any man of his great ability could. He did not seem to

be able to think in the terms of economics at all. When the war broke

out he happened to do the natural thing by first going to the bankers

of New York, Philadelphia and Boston, and making loans amounting to

one hundred and fifty million dollars. Though prior to that time

the Secretary of the Treasury had had no authority to deposit the

Government money in the banks, Congress then authorized him to do so,

and he was enabled to leave it in the banks until he wanted it; but he

did not know enough to do that even. He required the banks to pay the

gold into the Treasury at New York at the rate of $5,000,000 per week.

Fortunately, the public creditors knew more about this question than

he did, or had more confidence in the country than he seemed to have;

and so when they received the gold they immediately returned it to the

banks. Chase's utter incapacity to deal with the question in his report

as Secretary of the Treasury in the fall of 1861, and a threatened

war with Great Britain, growing out of the Trent affair, so shocked

public confidence that by January 1, 1862, our national finances were

in a state of complete and utter collapse, and the consequence was

that specie payments were suspended. I do not see how anyone can fail

to conclude, after a careful study of the situation, that had Chase

allowed the bankers to finance the war, we should have fared very

much better than we did. We should probably have saved thirty-three

per cent of the cost of the war, or approximately one billion dollars

($1,000,000,000), the total cost of the war being three billion two

hundred million ($3,200,000,000).

MR. BANKER: I agree with you absolutely, Mr. Lawyer, Chase seemed to be

as unfit to run the Treasury Department, as a fish is to run a foot

race. If he had allowed James Gallatin, Moses Taylor and George S. Coe,

three great New York bankers, who arranged the first loan to formulate

a financial policy for him, the war could undoubtedly have been carried

on without issuing greenbacks, or any "legal tender money." But after

specie payments had been suspended, the situation was certainly

critical, and became more difficult to manage. However, there were

those who thought, and I agree with them, that it was never necessary

at any time, even then to resort to "legal tender money," or greenbacks.

MR. FARMER: How do you think it could have been avoided? How do you

think James Gallatin, Moses Taylor and George S. Coe would have

provided the money for carrying on the war?

MR. BANKER: By selling the bonds of the Government upon the best terms

possible, as to rates and interest and time, and by such a system of

taxation, as would help produce the necessary means for prosecuting the

war. These bankers had already furnished one hundred and fifty million

dollars ($150,000,000), and stood ready to go on and finance the war as

they certainly could have done, if they had been permitted to do so.

When they, in August, 1861, arranged to furnish the first $150,000,000,

the banks of New York, Philadelphia and Boston held gold amounting

to $63,200,000, and on December 7th, they held practically the

same amount, or $58,100,000, although they had already furnished

$100,000,000 of the $150,000,000 they had loaned. However, Chase was

both ignorant and obstinate and the result was a crisis in our national

affairs.

MR. LAWYER: That is the fact, and as you said a moment ago even then

there were those, and they were among the greatest of our public men,

who were convinced that it was unwise, dangerous, unconstitutional and

unnecessary to issue "legal tender money," or greenbacks, as they are

called. Just hear what some of them said. Justin S. Morrell used this

language in the House of Representatives: "If this paper money is a war

measure, it is not waged against the enemy, but one that may well make

him grin with delight. I would as soon provide Chinese wooden guns for

the army, as paper money alone for the Treasury.

"What is it that we most need? Clearly we lack money, and wish to

inspire our own people with that confidence that will induce them to

lend the requisite amount. But the very first step we propose is one

to destroy whatever of confidence yet remains among those who have a

dollar to lend. We proclaim by an engraved advertisement--to be forced

into the pockets of every man by the fiat of the Government--that we

will hereafter liquidate all of our debts with paper only....

"I object to this bill on the ground of its utter impolicy. I admit

that from the contracts entered into--many of which are now due--I

regret have not been paid as promptly as they deserve to be, and from

the heavy monthly disbursements to our armies, that the Government can

flood the country with even $150,000,000 of paper dollars. But from

that amount, you would vastly increase the cost of carrying on the war;

prices would go up and the addition we should pile upon our national

debt would prove that it might have been even wiser to have burned our

paper dollars before they were issued; the inflation of the currency

would be inevitable....

"It will be conceded that the power is no where contained in the letter

of the Constitution, and that, in all our history since the adoption

of the Constitution, it has never been exercised.... By making paper

a legal tender, no more specie will be seen, except through offers

of rewards to draw it from its hiding places, until we emerge from

our present difficulties, and not for an indefinite period perhaps,

thereafter. The $300,000,000 of specie said to be in the country,

though I think there is not quite so much, will be hoarded and remain

useless and idle for the rest of the war. I am for keeping this, the

vital fluid of commerce, in healthy, active circulation."

Charles Sumner used this language in the United States Senate: "Is

there not bad faith toward creditors who are compelled to receive what

is due to them in a depreciated currency? Is there not bad faith toward

all abroad who, putting trust in our integrity, national and personal,

have sent their money to this country, in gold or its equivalent?

And, surely, just in proportion as this is so, you cannot doubt that

we shall suffer alike in character and resources; for what resource

is greater to a nation, or to an individual, than a character for

integrity?... Is it necessary to incur all the unquestionable evils of

inconvertible paper, forced into circulation by an Act of Congress--to

suffer the stain upon our national faith--to bear the stigma of a

seeming repudiation--to lose for the present that credit which in

itself is a treasury--and to teach debtors everywhere that contracts

may be varied at the will of the stronger? Surely there is much in

these inquiries which may make us pause. If our country were poor or

feeble, without population, and without resources, if it were already

drained by a long war, if the enemy had succeeded in depriving us of

the means of livelihood, then we should not even pause. But our country

is rich and powerful, with a numerous population, busy, honest and

determined, and with unparalleled resources of all kinds, agricultural,

mineral, industrial and commercial; it is yet undrained by the war

in which we are engaged; nor has the enemy succeeded in depriving us

of any of the means of livelihood. It is hard--very hard--to think

that such a country, so powerful, so rich and so beloved, should be

compelled to adopt the policy of even questionable propriety."

James A. Bayard, of Delaware, used this language: "The thing is to my

mind so palpable a violation of the Federal Constitution, that I doubt

whether in any Court of Justice in this country, having a decent regard

for its respectability, you can possibly except that this bill, which

you now pass, will not, whenever the question is presented judicially,

receive its condemnation as unconstitutional, and void in this clause."

Roscoe Conklin used this language in the House: "I propose to assign

my reasons briefly for voting against the attempt by legislation to

make paper a legal tender. The proposition is a new one, no precedent

can be found in its favor; no suggestion of the existence of such a

power can be found in the legislative history of the country; and I

submit to my colleague as a lawyer, the proposition that this amounts

to affirmative authority of the highest kind against it. Had such a

power lurked in the Constitution as construed by those who ordained

and administered it, we should find it so recorded. The occasion for

resorting to it, or at least referring to it, has, we know, repeatedly

arisen, and had such a power existed, it would have been recognized and

acted on. It is hardly too much to say, therefore, that the uniform and

universal judgment of statesmen, jurists and lawyers has denied the

constitutional right of Congress to make paper a legal tender for debts

to any extent whatever....

"It will, of course, proclaim throughout the country a saturnalia

of fraud, a carnival for rogues. Every agent, attorney, treasurer,

trustee, guardian, executor, administrator, consignee, commission

merchant, and every debtor of a fiduciary character, who has received

for others money, hard money, worth 100 cents on the dollar, will

forever release himself from liability by buying up for that knavish

purpose, at its depreciated value, the spurious which we shall have put

afloat. Everybody will do it, except those who are more honest than the

American Congress advises them to be. Think of Savings Banks, entrusted

with enormous aggregates of the pittances of the poor, the hungry and

the homeless, the stranger, the needle woman, the widow and the orphan;

and we are arranging for a robbery of 10 per cent, if not of 50 per

cent, of the entire amount, and that by a contrivance so new, as never

to have been discovered under the administrations of Monroe, Adams or

James Buchanan....

"Such a step, if it should ever be taken by a Government, should be

taken when everything else has failed, and the last extremity has

been reached. It is the last expedient to which kings and nations can

resort."

William Pitt Fessenden, of Maine, used this language:

"With regard to the particular bill now before the Senate, we all know

that it was resorted to as a temporary measure, not in the beginning,

but in consequence of the necessities of the treasury, arising from

a greater expenditure than the Secretary could have imagined, and

arising from the necessary delay with reference to other measures. Can

it be said that a measure like the one now pending before the Senate

and the country is a measure of a day or an hour? Why, what does it

propose? It proposes something utterly unknown in this government from

its foundation; a resort to a measure of doubtful constitutionality,

to say the least of it, which has always been denounced as ruinous to

the credit of any government, which has recourse to it; a measure,

too, about which opinions in the community, as perhaps they never have

been divided upon any other subject; a measure which, when it has been

tried by other countries, as it often has been, has always proved a

disastrous failure....

"Everybody who has spoken on this question, I believe without an

exception--there may have been one or two--but all the opinions I have

heard expressed, agree in this: that only with extreme reluctance, only

with fear and trembling as to the consequences, can we have recourse to

a measure like this of making our paper a legal tender in the payment

of debt....

"A measure of this kind certainly cannot increase confidence in the

ability, or the integrity of the country. It can make us no better

than we are today, so far as the foundation of all public credit is

concerned.

"Next, in my judgment it is a confession of bankruptcy. We begin and go

out to the country with the declaration that we are unable to pay or

borrow, at the present time, and such a confession is not calculated to

increase our credit.

"Again, say what you will, nobody can deny that it is bad faith. If it

be necessary for the salvation of the Government, all considerations

of this kind must yield; but to make the best of it it is bad faith,

and encourages bad morality both in public and in private. Going to the

extent that it does to say that notes thus issued shall be receivable

in payment of all private obligations, however contracted, is in its

very essence a wrong, for it compels one man to take from his neighbor

in payment of a debt that which he would not otherwise receive, or be

obliged to receive, and what is probably not full payment....

"Again, in my judgment it must inflict a stain upon national honor. We

owe debts abroad. Money has been loaned to this country, and to the

people of this country, in good faith....

"Again, it necessarily changes the values of all property. It is very

well known that all over the world gold and silver are recognized as

money, as currency; they are the measure of value. We change it here,

what is the result? Inflation, subsequent depression, all the evils

which follow from an inflated currency....

"Again, a stronger objection than all that I have said to this

proposition--I am stating the objections which everybody must

entertain, because I suppose these facts are palpable--is that the

loss is to fall most heavily upon the poor. I believe it never was

disputed, it cannot be in the light of experience, that those who are

injured most by an inflated currency are the laboringmen, the poor....

The poor laborer suffers in the first place more than all; then small

capitalists, if I may so call them; and the rich capitalist, last

of all. Such is the necessary result and consequence always of this

system."

Thaddeus Stevens used this language in the House:

"This bill is a measure of necessity, not of choice. No one would

willingly issue paper currency, not redeemable on demand and make it

a legal tender. It is never desirable to part from that circulating

medium which by the common consent of civilized nations forms the

standard of value. But it is not a fearful measure, and when rendered

necessary by exigencies, it ought to produce no alarm."

John Sherman used this language:

"I agree that this measure can only be justified on the ground of

necessity. I do believe there is a pressing necessity that these demand

notes should be made a legal tender, if we want to avoid the evils of a

depreciated, dishonored paper currency."

E.G. Spalding, the reputed father of the legal tender act, used these

words:

"These are extraordinary times, and extraordinary measures must

be resorted to, in order to save our Government, and preserve our

nationality....

"This being accomplished I will be among the first to agitate a speedy

return to specie payment, and all measures that are calculated to

preserve the honor and dignity of the government in time of peace."

MR. MERCHANT: From what transpired there was undoubtedly an

overwhelming opinion that there was a necessity, and therefore the

issue of United States Notes was justified. No one will deny this

power, if placed upon that ground, that the issuance of the Notes was

essential to the preservation of the life of the Nation. But certainly

that reason no longer exists, and therefore we should now act as we

would then have acted, if we had not believed that it was a national

necessity.

The measure for the first issue of $150,000,000 of United States Notes

was passed and signed by the President February 25, 1862. The second

issue of $150,000,000 came very soon, on July 11, 1862. The third

issue of $150,000,000 followed on March 3, 1863, making a total issue

in about a year of $450,000,000. If the result of the war had been

doubtful and long continued, God only knows what the results would

have been, as these United States Notes came very near reaching the

zero point, as it was. The astounding fact, as the result of having

practiced the law of making something out of nothing, followed in 1868

when one of the great political parties in the hot pursuit of political

success declared in its platform that it was in favor of paying off

the national debt with the I.O.U.'s of the Government or United States

Notes. Of course, this action would have been the natural and necessary

prelude to national repudiation.

MR. FARMER: What I want to know is how much those greenbacks actually

depreciated.

MR. BANKER: I have a sheet here furnished by the Government showing

precisely what they were worth from February, 1862, to January 1, 1879,

when we resumed specie payment, and began their current redemption in

gold coin. It shows that they were worth 97 cents on the dollar in

February, 1862, when the President signed the bill; in one year, or

February 15, 1863, they were worth 60 cents on the dollar; and in a

little more than a year afterwards, in July, 1864, they were worth only

35 cents on the dollar. That is, if you had bought a horse for $100 in

January, 1862, and given a note due in July, 1864, you could have paid

for the horse with $35.

You will perceive that every creditor was defrauded going down hill

until you struck the bottom on that July day in 1864, when it took

$2.85 of United States Notes to buy $1.00 of gold coin, and you

defrauded every debtor climbing up that long hill from that July day in

1864, when the United States Notes were worth 35 cents, until January

1, 1879, when they became worth 100 cents. It took us just two years to

go down the hill, and fifteen years to reach the top of the same hill,

only to find the crater of a sleeping financial volcano beneath our

feet; for if war clouds should now encompass us, or we should take one

single step in the wrong direction, our National Credit would again be

shattered, and must fall into utter ruin.

MR. FARMER: Well, it then came out just as those men said it would,

didn't it?

MR. BANKER: Certainly, and I want to call your attention to another

thing, and that is that the additional cost of the war, because of

issuing United States Notes, was greatly increased precisely as they

predicted it would be.

MR. FARMER: Oh, yes, we must find out about that. You remember we

investigated the cost of the greenbacks since the war, and that Mr.

Banker then demonstrated to our entire satisfaction that the United

States Government would have been better off by $339,984,222, if at the

close of the war we had issued bonds, bearing 4 per cent, and taken up

these United States Notes and paid them off. Now, it would be mighty

interesting to know just how much the war cost because we issued these

United States Notes, and went off the Gold Standard.

MR. LAWYER: I have something here right on that point. Let me read it:

In his work on Public Debts, Prof. H.C. Adams computes the extra cost

of the war to the tax payers in consequence of the depreciated currency

at $850,000,000. And Mr. Wesley Hill, in the "Journal of Political

Economy," March, 1897, computes the net cost of the war, due to this

cause at $528,000,000. Now to be fair and take the average of these

two estimates or $689,000,000, and add the cost of meeting greenback

redemption since the war, or $339,984,222, we have $1,028,984,222, or

about one-third of the cost of the war which, as I told you a while

ago, was three billion two hundred million dollars, proving everything

that was said by those who were opposed to issuing the greenbacks.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I beg your pardon, sir, except one thing, Mr. Lawyer.

According to the decisions of the Supreme Court, up-to-date, and that

is, that they are constitutional. You remember, of course, that the

question of the constitutionality of the Legal Tender quality of the

United States Notes has been before the United States Supreme Court

three different times.

This question came up in the case of Hepburn vs. Griswold, December,

1869, and was held by five judges against three, the Court then

consisting of eight judges, the opinion of the Court being delivered

by Salmon P. Chase, himself, who was then Chief Justice, "that the

making of the Notes, or Bills of Credit, a legal tender in payment of

pre-existing debts, is not a means appropriate, plainly adapted, or

really calculated to carry into effect any power vested in Congress; is

inconsistent with the spirit of the Constitution, and is prohibited by

the Constitution."

MR. FARMER: Well, this man Chase, who was then Chief Justice, was

Secretary of the Treasury, and favored the issuance of these same

United States Notes, didn't he?

MR. LAWYER: Yes, he is the same person. But you must remember that he

was a politician in the one case, and a Chief Justice in the other.

Possibly, I should have said a statesman in the first place, but Thomas

B. Reed said that a statesman was a dead politician, and probably, you

might say, according to his theory, that Chase is a statesman now.

Chase also held that the clause in the Acts of 1862 and 1863, which

makes United States Notes legal tender in payment of all debts, public

and private, so far as it applies to debts contracted before the

passage of these Acts, is unwarranted by the Constitution: "The legal

tender quality," Chase said, "was valuable only for the purpose of

dishonesty, every honest purpose was answered as well without it."

Just one year afterward, in December, 1870, the question of the legal

tender of the United States Notes was again before the United States

Supreme Court, which now consisted of nine members. In a decision of

five against four, the above decision was reversed; one judge had

died, and a new judge had been created, and these two joined the three

formerly in favor of the Act.

MR. MANUFACTURER: That looks a little as though General Grant wanted

that kind of a decision, and had picked out the right kind of men to

get it. Possibly it was more this decision than pressure of business

that called for the creation of an additional member of the Court--was

it not?

MR. LAWYER: A great many have thought so, and that makes it look as

though the Supreme Court does some legislating occasionally on its

own account. However, the same question came up again in the case of

Juillard vs. Greenman, and was decided the same way in March, 1884.

It was then held that Congress has the constitutional power to make

Treasury Notes of the United States a legal tender in payment of

private debts in time of peace, as well as in time of war.

Justice Gray uses this language: "The power is incident to the power of

borrowing money, and issuing Bills or Notes of the Government for money

borrowed, of impressing upon those bills or notes, the quality of being

a legal tender for the payment of private debts was a power universally

understood to belong to sovereignty in Europe and America at the time

of the framing and adoption of the Constitution of the United States."

It appears that he based his decision upon this fact, but George

Bancroft, the historian, reviewed this opinion in both its legal and

historical aspects. And referring to the statement quoted above, this

great historian declared it to be a stupendous error, and further

affirmed that no such power was understood to belong to sovereignty in

Europe at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, that is, in

1788.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Well, I assume that we have another guess coming yet,

haven't we? You know this same Court has guessed four times already

on the Sherman Anti-Trust Law. In the Knight case, they declared that

manufacturing was not and could not be considered as United States

Commerce. Then came the Trans-Missouri case, then the Northern Security

Co. case, and last the Tobacco and Standard Oil cases, wherein this

august body ran amuck the word "reasonable," although that very word

was not in the Act at all, and although it had been impossible to get

Congress to put it into the Act. But after all, is it not the very soul

of the whole question? And is it not a fact that the Supreme Court of

the United States ought to be constantly interpreting the Constitution

of the United States in the light of changed conditions, and ever

advancing public opinion?

MR. LAWYER: It looks as though it might be well to give the Supreme

Court one more chance to guess; they might possibly guess right next

time. It is certainly "reasonable" to hope so, both in accordance

with the Constitution, and in accordance with economic law, and in

accordance with the experience of the whole world.

MR. MERCHANT: Well, what would happen if, when the Supreme Court

guesses again, it should guess right? Would the fact that the Court

declared that Congress had no power to make paper money a legal tender

render the greenbacks unfit for reserves, or illegal, as reserves?

MR. BANKER: Congress cannot, by law, make anything fit for reserves,

which by economic law is unfit for reserves; but Congress may make

anything, however unfit for reserves from an economic point of view, a

legal reserve; they might make potatoes, wheat, corn, a bale of cotton,

or a bundle of hay reserves. Therefore, although the Supreme Court

should declare the Legal Tender Act unconstitutional, as it ought to,

the United States Notes might still be held as reserves. The silver

certificates and the gold certificates are both legal reserves, but

neither of them are made legal tender by law, nor should they be, as

nothing but gold, which is our standard of value, should be made legal

tender. However, all of these barbarous forms of currency, United

States Notes, Silver Certificates, bond-secured National Bank Notes

should, and must be maintained upon a parity with gold, if possible,

as they now are; because the faith and honor of the Government is at

stake. It is this very fact that is the source of our weakness from a

national point of view, for the United States has no assets with which

to meet these enormous liabilities. The United States has no resources,

such as a bank has. It has nothing to sell in the way of grain, meat,

cotton, or manufactured goods, or personal property of any kind. It has

no capital, and no deposits, as our banks have, whose resources today

exceed twenty-five billion dollars ($25,000,000,000). The individual

deposits of the United States today exceed seventeen billion dollars

($17,000,000,000). Every month about three billion dollars' worth of

notes come due. Compare this situation with the condition of the United

States Treasury, and its ability to meet obligations. The Treasury does

not control a single dollar's worth of assets, except the incoming

taxes, which are more than pledged every year to meet the current

demands arising from the expenses of the Government.

MR. LAWYER: That is correct, as we learned upon a former evening.

The United States is bound for more than one billion seven hundred

million of demand liabilities, directly and indirectly, and has only

one hundred and fifty million of gold with which to meet them. All

the Government has is the power to tax the property of the people. Of

course it can anticipate this taxing power by selling bonds to meet an

emergency; but let us imagine for a moment what may happen. This very

night we may be looking out upon a perfectly clear and peaceful sky,

and even so soon as tomorrow morning war clouds may curtain the rising

sun, and before nightfall blacken the zenith of the heavens, and hang

low and lowering the whole horizon round, presaging the most titanic

and wicked struggle in blood that has ever stained the history of the

human race. What do you think the effect would be upon our credit, with

all these demand obligations outstanding? Would not that fact, coupled

with a great war on our hands, impair our credit to a very great

degree, compelling us to sell our bonds at much lower prices, and at

rates of interest far higher than could be possibly necessary, if there

was no question whatever about our remaining steadfastly upon the Gold

Standard instead of resorting to fiat paper money, as we did the very

last time we had to meet a similar difficulty, or crisis?

MR. BANKER: There is no doubt whatever about the imperative necessity

of our relieving the United States Treasury from the load it is now

carrying, and placing the United States Government in the same position

precisely that every state and municipality is in, so far as its credit

is concerned; for the treasury of the Government, when filling its

normal and proper functions, is no more fit to carry on the banking

business than a man who may be wealthy in land, but has no cash assets;

or a township, city, county or state is. And until the United States

Government divests itself of these unnatural burdens, which it is

unfitted to carry, we shall continue to suffer immeasurably whenever

called upon to use our national credit to any great extent.

Let me explain this principle a little more fully so that we will all

get it so thoroughly fixed in our minds that we shall not forget,

or overlook it, as we go on. A farmer, however wealthy in lands and

prosperous he may be, even though he may be worth half a million, or

a million dollars, should not have demand obligations outstanding for

any considerable amount because his resources are in lands or fixed

investments. If he borrows to enable him to produce his crops, he

should make his notes come due when he can meet them with the money he

receives from the sale of his crops, and the balance, or his profits,

will go to pay the interest on the mortgage, and possibly reduce it.

So a township, a city, county, or state has no personal property worth

considering to meet demand obligations. It has no liquid property of

any kind, in fact, nor any resources whatever, except its power to

tax the property within its jurisdiction; and therefore, if it needs

money, it may borrow to meet expenses; but it will make its notes come

due when the taxes come in, precisely as the farmer times his notes'

maturity with the sale of his crops. If a municipality has no demand

obligations, and its bonded debt is low, it can borrow on its bonds

at a low rate of interest. But if its demand obligations are enormous

in proportion to its ready cash, high rates of interest, and possibly

even bankruptcy, will always be staring it in the face. Granting or

assuming that the United States Government has no power to issue legal

tender, or fiat money, which is the greatest peril and most unmitigated

curse that ever hung over any country, the United States Treasury is in

precisely the same position, or situation, that the farmer is, whose

property is in land; that the township, the city, the county and the

state is in, and should always keep itself in a position where, in case

of war, or any other great emergency, it could use its credit to the

best possible advantage to itself; that is, to us, the people who must

pay the taxes to liquidate whatever debt it may incur.

MR. FARMER: I for one want to thank you for this explanation, for I

have always had a sneaking idea that the United States Government

owned everything, and was, as we say, the richest Government on earth,

when it could not possibly mean anything except that the people who

constitute the nation are the richest people on earth. Of course the

Government doesn't own anything worth speaking of, and cannot take

any property, without due process of law, that is, either through the

process of taxation or through condemnation proceedings, for public

uses. It is perfectly plain to me now that the United States Government

is no more fitted to carry on the banking business than Lorrain

township, where I live, nor this city, this county, nor this state,

except that it operates on a bigger scale, that's all. Do you know

that's as clear as a pike staff to me now.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Now, gentlemen, I want you to correct me if I don't

state this credit question right, from beginning to end; for I'm

not sure that I have followed all that has been said with sufficient

care to understand it perfectly. I appreciate the fact that we must

grasp this question of credit, and comprehend it very clearly, if we

are going to prepare a banking bill in which credit must play a most

important part.

_First_: We have credit, which is the result of confidence and trust

and gives us the right to demand payment.

_Second_: If credit is granted for the purpose of producing and

distributing consumable commodities, it should be for a short period,

proportioned to the time involved to complete the transaction.

_Third_: If credit is granted upon real estate, it should be for a long

period, because the security is not readily convertible into cash.

_Fourth_: Credit granted to a Government, by purchasing its bonds,

should be for a long period, unless for some temporary purpose.

_Fifth_: Neither real estate nor Government credit are a fit basis for

currency, because neither is a fit security for a demand debt, nor cash

credit, such as consumable commodities are.

_Sixth_: Government credit should never be used in the form of legal

tender money, because it must itself be redeemed in coin. It never

has been, and never can be its own redeemer, and is always subject

to unlimited abuse which must necessarily result sooner or later in

repudiation.

MR. BANKER: Mr. Manufacturer, you have summarized the discussion upon

credit remarkably well, I think.

MR. MERCHANT: So do I, and I am sure that we all understand what

constitutes the difference between the right and wrong basis of demand

obligation--convertibility or non-convertibility--quick assets or

slow assets--the commercial fund and the investment fund. If we keep

this thought steadily in view it will help us amazingly when we come

to draw a banking bill demanding the recognition of this fundamental

distinction.

MR. LAWYER: Gentlemen, don't you see that the very nature of things

forces the recognition of this fundamental distinction, because you can

keep your currency, if of the right kind, and all your credit used in

the production and distribution of consumable commodities convertible

into gold coin. But you cannot keep all the railroad bonds, all the

municipal bonds and all the real estate of the country convertible into

coin, practically on demand. That is impossible, and has been proved

times without number, as we have already seen.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Mr. Lawyer, I have been sitting here with a very

hazy kind of an idea about this credit matter, until this moment, but

that last point you made seems to me to clinch things, for I saw in

the "Evening Journal" last night that there was about one hundred and

twenty-five billion dollars' worth of property in the United States.

Of course you can't cash that all in tomorrow, nor next week, nor next

month, nor next year even, and the fortunate thing about it is that the

owners don't want to. When you come to think of it, there is a mighty

small part of it that the people want to turn into cash each day.

MR. BANKER: Mr. Laboringman, that is the point exactly, and our problem

is to make it absolutely sure that those who have a right, and want to

demand cash, can always get it. This can only be accomplished by two

things, adequate gold reserves to protect all current demands, and such

assets or commercial credits as can be converted into gold, at once to

meet any extraordinary demands--yes, even satisfy the panic-stricken

mob, and carry the country through such crises as 1893 and 1907

without unnecessary loss, indeed, prevent the recurrence of any such

experiences again.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Do you really think that that can be done? What a

blessing that would be to labor.

MR. BANKER: I certainly do believe it can be done; indeed, I know it.

But every banker must be compelled to do his part; that is, be ready at

all times to carry his proper share of reserves against his deposits.

One half of the bankers of this country cannot ride the other half,

that is certain.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, what amount, or percentage of reserves do you

think a banker should carry?

MR. FARMER: Now, hold on, just a minute. You can't get into that

subject, because I want to hear it, and I've got to go home right now.

MR. BANKER: Very well, gentlemen, we will put it off, if you say so,

until next Wednesday night.

UNCLE SAM: This is the second time you men have said that you would

take up reserves. Indeed, it has been so long since you talked about

taking it up before, that I was afraid that it would be overlooked

entirely, and yet nothing but the standard of value itself is more

important. Now, mark this, we want the right kind of reserves, and

plenty of them.

Good Night.

TENTH NIGHT

RESERVES

UNCLE SAM: Here we all are, every man in his accustomed place for the

tenth night. Not a man has been late on a single occasion, although Mr.

Farmer just got in under the wire one night by the skin of his teeth.

It is most agreeable and satisfying to note that there has been no

lagging in interest since we began. Indeed, there seems to me to have

been a most pronounced gain in your enthusiasm, at times amounting

almost to religious fervor.

MR. LABORINGMAN: That's the way it always is; the more you know about

anything, the more interesting it becomes.

MR. MERCHANT: Certainly the man who has a fad or who is even a crank

upon any subject, enjoys life a good deal more than a dead level

commonplace fellow, who never takes any particular interest in

anything--just passes the time. Every man for his own pleasure, if for

no other reason, ought to have something in which he is interested

outside of his regular employment. It may be a good horse, a good cow,

a good dog, or some fine chickens--a good garden, a fine front yard,

or just some flowers, or some subject affecting the welfare of his

fellows. Every man ought to have something; it doesn't matter so much

what it is, so long as he is devoted to it intensely. Of course, if he

can profit by it, or help his fellows at the same time, so much the

better. However, we have our hands full just now with a subject which

has become mighty interesting, I think, to all of us, and I hope that

our work will prove not only interesting to us, but profitable to our

fellows. At all events, it can do no one any harm, and will better fit

everyone of us for our duties as citizens. There is too little work

of this kind done all over the country; men can accomplish so much

more, if they only get together in small groups like this, instead of

plugging along alone. It's a good deal like the football game, where

team work counts for so much. It may be that what we are now doing

will inspire thousands of other little groups to get together and

discuss this, the greatest, the most important business question that

can possibly come before the American people, and then when this is

finished, they will, as a matter of habit, take up others, in precisely

the same way.

UNCLE SAM: Hold on there, Mr. Merchant, you've lectured us long enough

this evening, now let us get down to business. You know if there is

anything that your Uncle Samuel is noted for all the world over, it is

business, and business is business, you know. But, before we tackle the

tenth topic, tonight, I am going to retrace the road we have traveled,

and see if you can all recall and recognize the mileposts we've passed.

_First_: There was the Standard of Value, gold.

_Second_: Money, our only money is gold.

_Third_: Currency, the wrong kind.

_Fourth_: Currency, the right kind.

_Fifth_: Exchange by which one debt is made to pay another.

_Sixth_: Value, the value of anything is measured by the thing for

which it is exchanged.

Price, the amount of money received for anything.

Wealth, what can be exchanged for money.

Property, the right of ownership.

Capital, anything that may be so used as to result in a profit.

Credit, result of confidence and trust; creates a debt, and is the

right to demand payment.

_Seventh_: Land or Government credit is unfit as a basis for money or

currency.

_Eighth_: Our Colonial experience proved that land and Government

credit were unfit as a basis for money or currency.

_Ninth_: Our United States Notes again demonstrated the fact that

Government credit should never be used as a basis of legal tender

money. Tonight we are to discuss Reserves, which are the protection or

guarantee of credits granted or debts created.

Is that a correct definition of reserves?

MR. BANKER: Uncle Sam, I don't think anyone could give a better one.

UNCLE SAM: By way of encouragement to you men, before you begin to

discuss the subject of reserves, I want to gamble the prophecy that if

you will work out some method or plan that will make it possible for

the banker to pay all his deposits on demand, and at the same time will

enable him to continue to use practically all of them in profitable

employment, I will guarantee you now the support of every banker for

your plan, when you've completed it.

MR. MERCHANT: I don't think you assume any risk in that guarantee,

Uncle Sam.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Uncle Sam, you say that you will guarantee that every

banker will support it. That insurance policy won't be any risk at all.

Won't cost you a cent. I tell you now that if you can work out a plan

that will amount to an absolute guarantee of deposits, as a matter of

administration, I will guarantee the support of every depositor in the

country, and if I could prove it to their satisfaction, every depositor

would gladly pay me from one-quarter to one-half per cent on his

deposit. Do you know what I would get at that rate, say at one-quarter

per cent, only $42,000,000 every year; for our deposits you say are now

seventeen billion ($17,000,000,000).

Have you men ever looked up bank failures in the United States? Here is

something I stumbled upon yesterday.

Our country is so extensive and our banks are so numerous that

nothing whatever is thought in one part of a bank failure in another

part. Especially is this so since they occur so frequently. Like the

operation of the guillotine during the French Revolution and the

automobile manslaughter of today, bank failures in the United States

have become mere passing occurrences. Is this putting it too strongly?

Let us see.

Since the establishment of the national system in 1864, 518 national

banks have failed, with liabilities reaching $244,000,000. The direct

losses of the failed banks amount to $38,000,000.

Two thousand and fourteen state and private banks have failed since

1864, with liabilities amounting to $825,000,000, and probable losses

of $200,000,000.

The total liability of all banks, national, state and private, failing

since 1864 is $1,069,000,000. Their aggregate is 2,532 banks. In other

words, fifty-six banks have failed every year on an average, or nearly

five banks every month, and more than one bank every week.

Three hundred and fifty-one national banks have failed since 1890, with

liabilities aggregating $174,000,000.

One thousand four hundred and six state and private banks have failed

since 1890, with liabilities aggregating $694,000,000.

The total liabilities of all banks failing since 1890 aggregate

$898,000,000.

The total number of all banks failing since 1890 is 1,757. In other

words, eighty-eight banks have failed every year on an average, or

more than seven banks every month, and one bank about every four days,

during the last twenty years.

But who can estimate the indirect losses or depict the consequences of

these bank failures?

If this tragic condition can be obviated, it is a crime against the

people of the United States, it is a crime against civilization itself,

to permit its continuance.

MR. BANKER: No, indeed, neither Uncle Sam nor Mr. Laboringman assume

any risk in their guarantees. They certainly do not, and I will go

still further, and under those circumstances will guarantee the support

of every merchant, manufacturer, farmer, laboringman, and every man,

woman and child, whether depositors or not, as we would be the greatest

benefactors of the human race, if we could devise a plan that would

remove all risk from every deposit. And yet, humanly speaking, I am

not sure that this very result, the absolute guarantee of all deposits

may not be accomplished, and the chief factor in the accomplishment

of so great a blessing to the people is locked up in the principle of

reserves, assuming, of course, that the administration of the banking

business is such as to keep it sound.

If all the deposits made with the bank were in gold, or were

convertible into gold, and held to meet the deposits when called for,

the problem would be simple indeed, and would be solved already. But

such a plan would be impracticable and archaic. Indeed, it would

preclude all profit, unless a charge were made for such service, and

would reduce a bank to a safe deposit company. It would exclude the

use of all credit, and therefore destroy the possibility of doing

approximately more than nine-tenths of the business carried on today,

unless we should go back to actual barter. Our problem is to make the

business of banking absolutely safe and yet preserve the great credit

structure by which the business of the country and the world is carried

on.

MR. MERCHANT: For the purpose of this discussion we must assume that

the business is honestly managed, and is, therefore, ordinarily

sound, and confine ourselves to just the single subject of reserves,

which my study leaves me to think, may be considered; 1st, from the

standpoint of the single bank; 2d, from a standpoint of the community

or a single city; 3d, from a standpoint of the whole country; 4th, from

the standpoint of the whole world or our relation to the rest of the

commercial world.

Now, generally speaking, we mean by reserves in banking that part of

the capital which is retained in order to meet the average demands upon

deposits. But this, of course, varies with every bank to some extent;

and, while 5 per cent cash would be ample reserve for a high-class

mutual savings bank, a commercial bank, in equally good standing, may

require from 10 per cent reserve up to 50 per cent, according to the

character of the business carried on. A country bank dealing with

the farmers might require the smaller amount, while a bank dealing

entirely with bankers would require the largest possible reserve, to

meet any emergency at any time. Each individual bank must be judged by

itself and its reserves adjusted accordingly. In the second instance,

as suggested, the locality or environment must be taken into account;

in many instances the character of the neighboring banks and their

peculiar business are all factors of great importance, and no one of

them can be overlooked. So also when the bank credit is considered as a

unit of the structure of the nation, the general situation from one end

of the country to the other has a bearing upon it, and from some cause

terror may sweep over the entire land in a single day, and every nerve

of trade be paralysed.

Then, finally, if our nation is an integral part of the commercial

world, we must devise some method that will conserve our reserves when

possibly for a hundred of various reasons, they may be steadily leaving

us or be drawn away by foreign influences.

MR. BANKER: Your statement of the condition and forces that are always

playing upon every center of credit from the single bank in the country

town to the largest and strongest in our financial centers makes it

necessary for the welfare of the whole people, that we should develop

in the United States an atmosphere of absolute confidence that nothing

can shake. Unless we can do this we shall continue to have commercial

earthquakes of ever increasing violence and destructiveness.

How to develop, establish and retain a defense of impregnable

confidence should be then our purpose, and if we succeed, this must be

our great achievement.

Speaking of the matter in a more definite way, we must assume that from

the primary form of reserve, which is what we started out with, such a

part of our capital in gold as will always prove equal to the average

demands upon deposits must be kept constantly available.

We must have what are aptly called secondary reserves, which will

meet all ordinary, yes extraordinary, or unusual calls; but, finally

we must have such access to an almost incomprehensible store of gold,

as to impress and overwhelm the imagination, and place its possible

exhaustion beyond human conception.

Mark this, your cash on hand of the reserve order, that is in gold

coin, ought under all circumstances, to be ample to care for current

requirements, while your credits, subject to call, with other banks,

or arrangements for credit, ought to be ample to meet all ordinary, or

seasonal, or periodic demands--and your general assets, which most of

necessity be your ultimate reserve, must be of such a liquid character

that if a panic comes, and the necessity arises, they can be converted

into cash, of the reserve order; that is gold coin.

You perceive, of course, that such a condition assumes two things;

first, that gold should always be running through the channels of trade

in sufficient quantities to touch and characterize the quality of all

credits; book credits, as well as note credits; both must always be

equal to gold, and commerce must be kept conscious of that fact by the

persistent presence of gold.

There must be kept before the business eye, the people's eye, the

national eye, such a vast horde of gold concentrated for the purpose as

to compel even the most timorous to feel safe, beyond a peradventure.

There must be a conviction everywhere that the system cannot break down

or fail.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Mr. Banker, your position, or statement, is in

perfect accord with Bagehot, the great banking economist of England.

Here's what he said: "I have tediously insisted that the natural system

of banking is that of many banks keeping their own cash reserves, with

the penalty of failure before them if they neglect it." In another

place he says: "Of course, in such a matter the cardinal rule to be

observed is that errors of excess are innocuous, but errors of defect

are destructive. Too much reserves only means a small loss of profit,

but too small a reserve may mean ruin. Credit may be at once shaken,

and if some terrifying accident happens to supervene, there may be a

run on the banking department, that may be too much for it, as in 1857

and 1866, and may make it unable to pay its way without assistance, as

it was in those years." And again he writes: "Why should a bank keep

any reserve? Because it may be called upon to pay certain liabilities

at once and in a moment."

Upon the same point I want to support your position by another great

English economist, Stanley Jevons. He says: "There is a tendency

to frequent severe scarcities of loanable capital, causing sudden

variations of the rate of interest, almost unknown thirty years ago.

I will therefore in the next chapter offer a few remarks intended

to show that this is an evil naturally resulting from the excessive

economy of the precious metal which the increasing perfection of our

banking system allows to be practiced, but which may be carried too

far, and lead to extreme disaster." Again he says: "The vast trade of

the country cannot be placed upon a sound basis, until the force of

public opinion among bankers imposes upon each member the necessity of

holding a cash reserve, bearing a fair proportion to the liabilities

incurred. It matters little who holds the reserve, provided it actually

does exist in the form of metal, and is not evaporated away, _by being

placed at par_, or deposited with other banks which make free use of

it. In the absence of some common action among bankers, it is certain

that the sensitiveness of the money market will increase, and it is

probable that commercial crises will from time to time recur, even

exceeding in their violence and disastrous consequences those whose

history we know too well."

The want of the conservation of proper gold reserves is what has led

to the weakness of the German situation today and compels them to take

steps to strengthen the reserves of the individual banks in accordance

with the finding of the commission appointed to revise the banking laws

of Germany. The individual banks of England have also been increasing

their cash reserves for several years past, recognizing the force of

what Jevons wrote several years ago.

MR. FARMER: That's all right, Mr. Banker, as a statement of principles,

and I think it is perfectly clear to me just what you mean; but there

is one point that I would like to have settled, and that's this:

what is a reserve in the United States? That is, what can you call

a reserve? You know I am a director of our little bank down in the

village below. The other day I asked them what they held for reserves

and the cashier brought out this list; $3,000 silver certificates;

$3,500 of United States notes, or greenbacks; $4,500 National bank

notes; $2,500 gold certificates; $1,500 gold coin; and some silver

change. As quick as I saw that bunch of stuff, I said to myself, just

what you pounded into me some nights ago, that those bank notes ought

never to be held as reserves, because they were nothing but another

bank's debts, nothing but another bank's I.O.U.'s. Do you know that

idea never penetrated my cranium until that very minute. Now, that is

an absolute absurdity, that one bank's debts should be used as another

bank's reserves. Just imagine what a high old time we would have, if

the banks went around the country exchanging their debts with each

other for the purpose of creating reserves. The sky would be the limit.

Just think of it; where would it stop?

MR. BANKER: Well, Mr. Farmer, that is precisely what the bankers

of this country are doing. I know of one National banker who took

$3,000,000 of his own bank notes, and put them into the reserves of a

Trust Co., and all the stock of the Trust Co. was owned by his bank,

and was locked up in the safe of the bank. I know another National bank

that got a large Trust Co. to bury $3,500,000 of its notes down at the

bottom of its reserves, so that they could not get out; and this is

a fair sample of just what is going on all over this country today.

This is done just to keep their notes out, so that they can make the

extra 1 per cent or 1-1/4 on the notes in circulation, as we call it.

Some one of you may say, well! these notes are secured by Government

bonds. Yes, suppose they are, what of it? Congress has just passed a

law providing for $500,000,000 more just like these present National

Bank Notes, which are to be secured by State Bonds, Municipal Bonds,

Railroad Bonds and Promissory Notes and what not, and the boast of that

wonderful economist Aldrich was that you could not tell them apart. Any

fraud, apparently, would suit him, so long as no one found it out. Now,

I assert, and challenge any man to deny it, that if any good debt is

fit to be used for reserve money, then every good debt is equally fit.

If a Government debt is good reserve money, then New York State debts,

Pennsylvania, Illinois, and all state debts; and if all state debts,

then New York city, Philadelphia, Chicago and all city debts; and if

New York, Chicago and Philadelphia debts are good reserve money, then

the United States Steel, Standard Oil and all corporation debts; and if

all corporation debts are good reserves, then the debts of J.P. Morgan,

John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie and all private debts are good

reserves. When you stop to think of it, what a preposterous proposition

it is to make any debt a reserve for another debt. The State of

California has just waked up, and will not permit her state banks to

hold a National Bank Note as reserve; but the great State of New York

specifically provides that her banks may hold National Bank Notes as

reserves.

MR. MERCHANT: I must confess that I never knew that before; such a

scheme as that is perfectly rotten, and it seems to me as though

something ought to be done to correct so obvious an evil. Why,

gentlemen, these men who are using bank notes as reserves, must have

known that they were driving just that much gold out of the country,

and weakening the basis of credit to just that extent.

MR. BANKER: I don't know whether they know enough to know that or not,

and I don't know whether it would have made any difference with them

if they did. When a man's cupidity and greed make a slave of him, they

drive all patriotism out of his soul, just as debts, promises to pay,

or wind money drives the gold out of the country.

MR. MANUFACTURER: This scheme of banks exchanging their promissory

notes or their debts for the purpose of making reserves is a new one to

me, too. But, if any one thing can be much worse than another, it must

be this scheme.

Gentlemen, a true reserve must be the measure and touchstone of credit,

therefore a reserve cannot be a credit itself nor a debt created by

granting credit. Now, what is the thing by which we are measuring the

value of all credit? Indeed, the thing by which we are measuring the

value of everything? It is gold, is it not? Then certainly gold is the

only thing that ought to be considered as a reserve.

MR. BANKER: Right you are, Mr. Manufacturer, no greater economic truth

was ever uttered, or better said, than you have just put this one. In

support of that, I want to read something just written by Joseph T.

Talbert, Vice-President of one of our greatest banks. It is this: "What

is a Bank Note? It is the available gold behind a Bank Note that gives

it value. Substitution of any form of credit paper, the greenback, for

instance, is a substitution of a deferred promise of a thing, for the

thing itself. A statute which forces such notes upon the people as a

legal tender, works a fraud and vitiates all reason in regard to money

and banking. It perverts the moral sense of right and justice."

MR. FARMER: There is no doubt whatever that all the true reserves

that that little country bank really had, was only the gold and gold

certificates amounting to $4,000 out of the total of $14,250, the rest

being only a substitution of some form of credit which must itself

be redeemed by gold which is certainly the only redeemer. We settled

that a long time ago, but it never came home to me until right now.

This thing is growing on me so rapidly that I shall soon be a real,

unregenerate Gold Bug. I guess I am that now. But, how plain and

self-evident that truth is when we get close to it. We are living and

teaching a gigantic economic fraud, an economic lie.

MR. BANKER: Some reference may have already been made to this fact;

however, it will do no harm to repeat it right here because of its

force and great importance. Under the English Bank Act of 1844,

permission was given to count silver as one-quarter or 25 per cent of

the reserves of the Bank of England; but it has never done so, since

it is regarded as an economic falsehood. The reason is obvious. If the

bank today held $50,000,000 of silver and $150,000,000 of gold, the

gold would not only have to carry the $50,000,000 of silver, which

is nothing but another form of credit money, because actually worth

only 50 cents on the dollar in bullion, but the gold would also have

to carry $150,000,000 additional; that is, all the credit based upon

this $50,000,000 of silver, a condition that is wholly misleading; for

the silver instead of being a reserve at all, as it seems, or pretends

to be, would actually be, so to speak, a bundle of dynamite under the

whole structure of English credit.

So, in the United States our $346,000,000 of United States Notes, or

greenbacks, instead of being an actual reserve to that extent, are not

only a burden resting upon our gold, to the amount of their face value;

but the burden our gold is carrying is multiplied to the extent of all

the credit that is resting, or is based upon these United States Notes,

which may be anywhere from one billion to three billion according to

the per cent of the reserves the banks using them carry. They may be

used as a 5 per cent reserve, and carry twenty times the amount of

the reserves, or more than six billion; it is possible that they may

be carried as a 17 per cent reserve, the average of all the National

Banks, or only 7 per cent, the average reserves of all the other State

Banks, excluding the Mutual Savings Bank.

MR. MERCHANT: What's that? Do you mean to say that the State Banks do

not carry more than an average of 7 per cent reserve, and that the

National Banks carry an average of two and a half times as much or 17

per cent cash?

MR. BANKER: I have the statement of the Comptroller right here, which

shows that the average cash reserves of all the State Banks is 5 per

cent, including the Mutual Savings Banks, but excluding them, only

an average of 7 per cent, and that the average reserves of all the

National Banks is 17 per cent.

The report of the Comptroller also shows this fact, that while all

other banks than the National Banks, excluding the Mutual Savings Bank,

hold only 7 per cent cash reserves of their individual deposits, or

demand liabilities, they have 24 per cent of their assets invested in

bonds and other securities, which must of necessity be slower than

current commercial paper, while the National Banks, which hold 17 per

cent in cash of their individual deposits, have invested only 17 per

cent of their assets in bonds, or other securities.

The inconvertibility of a great per cent of the assets of the State

institutions is another burden then, thrown upon the total cash

bank reserves of which the National Banks carry $996,000,000, with

$5,825,000,000 individual deposits, while the other banks, excluding

the Mutual Savings Banks, have only $577,000,000 cash reserves, with

individual deposits amounting to $7,589,000,000.

The average cash reserves of the United States therefore are only a

trifle over 11 per cent, when they should not be less than 16 per

cent under any circumstances at the low level, reaching nearer 20 per

cent at the high level. That is, reserves should be held for use, not

ornament. There should be such an elasticity in the use of reserves, as

to enable any community or section of the country to adjust itself to

the ever-changing conditions of trade.

Let me make this point perfectly clear by giving you an illustration.

Under the law of today, our bank carries 6 per cent cash, which

amounts to about $120,000. There are times of the year when I could

carry $180,000 or even $200,000 a good deal easier than I could carry

$60,000, or even $50,000 at another time. Common sense would say that

I ought to be able to adjust my business and my reserves somewhat to

the varying conditions, but no, I am tied down by a cast-iron rule, so

that I cannot bend without breaking the law. There is no doubt that

my reserves ought to average for the year fully 6 per cent cash. In

addition to this, I ought to carry at least 10 per cent more that I

know absolutely is available at any time. Yes, and this should be so

carried with the combined reserves of my fellow bankers all over the

United States, as to make any amount available that could possibly be

necessary at any time under any circumstances. _This is the principle

of the elasticity of reserves._

The wide variation between the State reserves and the reserves of the

National banks is not difficult to explain. There are eighteen states

today which have no reserve requirements at all. In the remaining

states, the reserve requirements range all the way from 5 per cent to

25 per cent. The reserve laws in some of the states are excellent, just

as good as that of the National Bank Act, while in an adjacent state,

there may be no provision whatever requiring reserves. The result is

that half of the banks of the country which are compelled to carry

adequate reserves are carrying the other half, a condition that is

unfair, unjust and manifestly unsound.

MR. MERCHANT: It is not only manifestly unfair as between the bankers

themselves, but such a condition imperils the banking situation as

a whole, and more than any other single cause, brings on a general

commercial disaster, as things now stand. The banking of the United

States and all the productive and transportation interests are,

comprehensively speaking, but one single business, so intimately

associated and interwoven are their affairs. The banks put up their

capital as an insurance fund, to protect their customers, and should

handle their resources, and should keep such an amount of reserves on

hand or at their command as to guarantee the payment of all depositors

upon demand, or in accordance with their contracts. Since the banks,

commerce and the people are all bound up together, the contracts of

the banks with the people should take one common form, and each bank,

from one end of the country to the other, should be compelled to assume

its proper share of the burden, both as to paid-up capital and as to

reserves.

It is interesting to note that the capital of the 7,312 National

banks amounting to $1,033,000,000 is just about equal to the capital

of the other 17,804 banks, outside the National System reporting,

and the estimated capital of $70,000,000 of the non-reporting banks,

$1,047,000,000.

The surplus of the National banks is 92 per cent of their capital,

and strange and fortunate to say, excluding the Mutual Savings bank,

the surplus of all other state banks is exactly 92 per cent of their

capital.

That is, the National banks have $1,983,000,000 capital and surplus to

insure $5,825,000,000 individual deposits and $2,178,000,000 due to

the other banks, or a capital and surplus to all deposits of nearly 25

per cent, while all the other banks have $2,010,000,000 capital and

surplus to insure individual deposits $5,089,000,000 and $454,000,000

due to banks, or a little over 24 per cent. Insurance expressed in

capital and surplus, therefore, is about equal, but a great and serious

divergence comes, as we have seen, in the average cash reserves of the

two classes of banks.

MR. MANUFACTURER: This is the weakness of the present situation from

the standpoint of reserves, and some of the states are beginning to

realize the importance of protecting the well-conducted banks from the

consequences of those recklessly or dishonestly managed; and they are

passing laws compelling all persons or firms doing a banking business

to submit to State supervision and control. They are compelling them

to incorporate their business within a reasonable time. These States

do not propose to have the innocent depositors swindled through a

misuse of funds; nor do they propose to permit bankers to so conduct

their banking business within their borders, that they can, if they

so desire, commit gigantic frauds, or by the misuse of the people's

deposits, bring on bank panics and a complete paralysis of business. I

think that Ohio has just passed such a law and that Illinois is about

to put the same kind of a statute into operation. The people of all

the states are beginning to understand that banking is a quasi-public

business, and that the banker, though not strictly speaking a trustee,

is in fact a quasi-trustee, and must conduct his business upon that

basis.

MR. BANKER: Mr. Manufacturer, you are quite right in what you have

said, but you have not gone far enough; nor as far, I am sure, as

you will be inclined to go when I have outlined the necessity of a

police regulation of the banking business, from a National rather than

from a State point of view. Just stop and think the matter over. To

use your own observation with regard to the action of the state, no

one will deny that a state has the right to supervise every person,

firm or corporation that takes deposits under the name of bank, or

banker, with a view of protecting the people against foolish or

dishonest bankers. By the same course of reasoning, the United States,

or National Government, has the right, and it is clearly its duty, to

protect one state against the unwise and dangerous course of some other

state and one section of the country against misconduct in the banking

business in some other section of the country. Bad banking is not only

a local mishap, but a national misfortune. Nine-tenths of the country

might be under such supervision and control of its banking business

as to insure practical immunity from such conditions and practices as

breed panics and the remaining tenth be so conducted as to preclude

the possibility of a day's freedom from the danger of a commercial

cataclysm.

Will anyone say that such a condition should continue for a day, or

a year, or for ten years, or for a hundred years, or for a thousand

perchance, because the general Government has no right or power to act

in the matter for want of constitutional authority? Let me ask you, Mr.

Lawyer, whether there is anything that will so certainly conserve the

peace, the prosperity and the "general welfare" of the United States as

a sound and uniform financial banking system extending over the whole

country.

MR. LAWYER: I certainly cannot conceive of anything of so much

importance as a sound and uniform banking system for the whole country.

If there is one single factor in our life that is distinctly national

in its character and scope, it is this.

During the past week, I devoted much time to that phase of this

question, because, as we have gone along during the last two or three

months, and this problem has been under discussion, I have become more

and more impressed with its vast importance, and above all with its

distinctly national character. I have not butted in tonight, as you

will observe, as I was anxious to see how you gentlemen would treat

this subject of Reserves, whether from a standpoint of individual

banks, or from the standpoint of the community, the commercial center,

or our country as a whole, or upon the broad proposition that gold

today constitutes the world's banking reserves and that we are a

very great part of that commercial world. For my own part, I had

come to the conclusion that there could not be a system of reserves

established that would be efficient and of the highest use, and really

protective unless it were national in its extent, and universal in

its application. Therefore, realizing the absolute necessity of some

common power to control all reserves, in order to compel each bank to

perform its part by carrying its share of the burden that commerce

imposes, I have been unable to find any solution, except in a uniform

national system; and why not? Certainly the National Government could

compel every bank to carry certain specified reserves, and failing to

do so to pay a tax of 10 or 20 per cent per annum upon all deposits

not so protected; that is, upon all deposits in excess of the required

reserve. This could be done under the taxing power of the Government,

precisely as a tax of 10 per cent was put upon all bank notes. Would

any patriotic banker refuse to coöperate with his fellow bankers in

such a reform, unless he wanted some unfair advantage by compelling the

other bankers to carry his load for him?

You gentlemen will remember that the National Government was given

jurisdiction of the Postal Savings Banks under these words which it was

understood at the time were written by the President: "Sixty-five per

cent of the deposits could remain with the banks as a working balance,

and also a fund which may be withdrawn for investment in bonds or

other securities of the United States, but only by direction of the

President, and only when in his judgment 'the general welfare' and the

interests of the United States so require." Similar words could be

used with regard to a per cent of the surplus of the banks, and if the

one was tenable, certainly the other would be especially so, since the

latter involves seventeen billion of individual deposits, of which six

billion four hundred and eighty million ($6,480,000,000) are savings

deposits. Again Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, empowers

Congress "to regulate commerce with foreign nations and among the

several states and with Indian tribes."

Upon this clause of the Constitution rests the Anti-Trust Law. What

have we not done under this clause of the Constitution and the general

welfare clause?

We have passed the Food and Drugs Act, giving the Government power to

stop the use of poisonous substances in food products and drugs:

The Insecticide Act, giving the Government power to determine what kind

of poison shall be used to annihilate bugs:

The Plant Quarantine Act, giving the Government power to regulate

the importation of nursery stock and other plants and products and

to enable the Secretary of Agriculture to establish and maintain

Quarantine Districts for plant diseases and insect pests:

The Livestock Quarantine Act, to enable the Secretary of Agriculture to

effectually suppress and extirpate contagious pleuro-pneumonia, foot

and mouth diseases and other dangerous infectious and communicable

diseases in cattle and other live stock:

The Meat Inspection Act that, for the purpose of preventing the use in

Interstate, or Foreign Commerce, of meat and meat food products, which

are unsound, unhealthy, unwholesome, or otherwise unfit for human food,

the Secretary of Agriculture at his discretion may cause to be made, by

inspectors appointed for that purpose, an examination and inspection

of all cattle, sheep, swine, and goats before they shall be allowed

to enter into any slaughtering, packing, meat-canning, rendering or

similar establishments in which they are to be slaughtered, and the

meat and meat food products thereof are to be used in interstate or

foreign commerce.

The twenty-eight Hour Law by which the Government compels the humane

treatment of cattle:

Employers' Liability Act:

The Safety Appliance Act:

The Hours of Service Act:

The Transportation of Explosives Act:

The Newspaper Publication Act:

The White Slave Act.

Can anybody doubt that we shall have a "National Health Act" by which

the Government can stop the invasion of this country by yellow fever,

cholera, bubonic plague, or any other scourge that may possibly visit

our shores, and sweep over the land?

Can anybody doubt that we shall soon have a National Child Employment

Act by which the childhood and youth of the land may be protected

against those labor practices that imperil our chief national resource,

the human resource?

Can anyone doubt that we shall soon have a National Woman's Employment

Act that future generations may not be pauperized in health, strength

and character?

Can anyone doubt that we shall soon have a National Workmen's

Employment Act to the end that American citizens in all parts of the

United States engaged in our productive industries shall have equal

opportunities in matters of hours of labor?

The general welfare of this nation demands strength, power and

greatness; but the strength, power and greatness of this nation reside

and consist in the character, health, strength and power of the people,

and therefore conservation of our greatest national resource is the

conservation of our human resource. The citizen is a national asset.

Can anyone doubt that justice between the employers of labor in our

various states, and the general welfare of this republic, demand

uniform health and labor laws to the end that the citizenship of this

republic may be the best product of the human race?

Gentlemen, if all these things are done, can be done and ought to be

done by the National Government, can anyone doubt the soundness of

this proposition: That it is interstate commerce to ship by mail, or

freight, any kind of property?

What is property? "Property is a thing or things subject to ownership;

anything that may be exclusively possessed and enjoyed; chattels,

lands, possessions." Gold, gold certificates, silver, silver

certificates, United States notes, checks, drafts, promissory notes are

all certainly within this definition.

H.D. MacLeod, the highest authority I know of on banking economics,

says: "Property, therefore, in its true sense, means solely a right,

interest or ownership, and consequently to call goods or material

things property is as great an absurdity as to call them right,

interest or ownership.

"To call goods themselves property is, comparatively speaking, a modern

corruption, and we cannot say when it began."

Therefore, property is primarily and essentially the very things with

which banking is solely concerned.

Will anyone deny that gold is property? Remember that when gold is

shipped in large quantities, it is by weight and not by count.

Will anyone deny that gold certificates are property?

Will anyone deny that silver is property?

Will anyone deny that silver certificates are property?

Will anyone deny that United States notes are property?

Will anyone deny that promissory notes are property?

Can anybody have the hardihood to say that if a note broker in New York

ships a million dollars' worth of commercial paper to purchasers in the

west upon a commission of a quarter or a half per cent, and receives

his payment, for the sake of the argument, let us say, by a shipment of

gold coin, that such broker is not engaged in Interstate Commerce? Does

this transaction become a different transaction, forsooth, because it

is carried out by a banker?

Will anybody deny that checks and drafts and bills of exchange are

property?

Will anybody deny that a bank has property, although it may be the

owner of one million dollars' worth of promissory notes?

Will anybody declare that a bank has no property when it has a million

dollars' worth of gold coin in its vaults?

If a bank in Chicago should by any chance own one million dollars'

worth of wheat, and should sell and ship the same to a New York bank,

and the New York bank should ship the Chicago bank one million dollars'

worth of gold, will anybody deny that they are engaged in interstate

commerce? Now, suppose that the Chicago bank should sell the wheat in

Chicago to Mr. Armour, instead of shipping it, for his promissory note

for one million dollars, due in thirty days, and that the Chicago bank

should then sell, and mail the note to the same New York bank, and the

New York bank should ship the Chicago bank one million dollars in gold,

in payment for the note, will anyone have the hardihood to assert that

this transaction is not interstate commerce?

Will anyone deny that the sale and shipment by note brokers of billions

upon billions of promissory notes from one state to another every year

is not interstate commerce, but that to ship eggs, apples, potatoes,

chickens, grain, cotton and live stock is interstate commerce?

I assert that it is just as proper and important that the National

Government inspect this paper, and the banks that create it, or

ship it, or buy it, as it is to inspect the sheep, hogs, cattle,

slaughterhouses and the meat they turn out in order that it can protect

the people of the United States. If the paper so shipped is infected

by the hand of a rotten maker, commercially speaking, and the bank

sending it out and responsible for it is not carrying an adequate

reserve to meet the paper, should the maker fail to pay it, the harm

done is vastly greater than that resulting from slightly infected meat.

How much infected meat would it take to do the harm, the damage to the

American people that resulted from the panic of 1907? And yet, if we

had had a wise, national financial and banking system, we need never

have passed through that harrowing, wasting panic that resulted in

destroying property values into the billions; in the death of thousands

of the people directly and indirectly; in the ruined health of tens of

thousands more; in the non-employment of hundreds of thousands; and in

the unknown and immeasurable suffering that ensued.

Such a national system must be supported by every banking unit; by

every individual bank carrying its part of the commercial burden, and

providing its proper share of the insurance of commercial safety by

contributing its proper proportion of the necessary reserves, both

local and national.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, I heartily approve of every word that you

have said, and there can be no possible doubt about the result of a

discussion of this phase of this question by the American people.

There is one question, however, that I desire to ask you before we pass

on, as we may overlook it. Is it not true that our National Banks are

now carrying 20 per cent reserves of which 17 per cent are cash? Are

not these reserves large enough to meet all emergencies?

MR. BANKER: I presume you gentlemen all know just how the National

Banks carry their reserves; but fearing that you do not, I will explain

the system to you. All so-called country banks are required to carry

15 per cent reserves; that is $15,000 cash against every $100,000 of

deposits; that they may send 9 per cent or $9,000 for every $100,000 of

deposits away to what we call reserve cities. Now, there are 320 banks

in 48 of these reserve cities. These reserve cities are required by

law to carry a reserve of 25 per cent, or $25,000, for every $100,000

deposits; but they may send away 12-1/2 per cent, or $12,500, for every

$100,000 of deposits to a central reserve city, of which there are

three: New York, Chicago and St. Louis.

These central reserve cities must carry 25 per cent cash reserves or

$25,000 in cash for each $100,000 of deposits. Experience shows that

these 320 banks in the 48 reserve cities and these 55 banks in the

three central reserve cities keep all of their money loaned out all of

the time; that is, right up to the reserve limit. Since they have no

margin, when called upon for anything more than the usual daily current

requirements, something extraordinary must be done to meet the demand.

Loans must be called in and paid off. But since these same banks that

are calling loans are supposed to be carrying the real, the final, the

ultimate reserves, a deadlock follows, and the borrower is up against

it; rates go almost anywhere that the banks want to put them; from 1

per cent to 10 per cent, to 20 per cent, to 100 per cent, or even 1,000

per cent; I believe that's the record rate. In other words, we have no

true, final reserves in this country at all, for you cannot break the

Government limit fixed by statute, and therefore we have a complete

lockup all along the line, until through straining, something breaks

somewhere.

There is absolutely no use of sending a part of your reserves away, if

you cannot get them when you want them; for then it is no reserve at

all, and that is the actual position or situation in the United States

today. Our so-called central reserves are not reserves; it may be

written down as a purely fictitious scheme, for there cannot be found

a single year in which any substantial arrangement has ever been made

by running the reserves up in the central reserve cities until they

amounted to an average of 35 or 40 per cent, which would be the only

practical way of providing for the crop-moving period.

If there is one thing more barbarous in our banking practices than a

bond-secured currency, it is our system of superimposed bank reserves,

especially in connection with the fixed limit, established by the

Government. What would you think of a railroad company which ran out

through the wheat country, having one-quarter of all its freight cars

idle all the time as a reserve, and yet when thrashing time came,

refused to use them, although the wheat was rotting on the ground,

because the management of the road demanded that the railroads should

always have at least one-quarter of the cars idle, as a reserve to meet

the demands during the crop-moving period. Wouldn't you think that that

was idiotic?

MR. LABORINGMAN: Well, I should say so.

MR. LAWYER: Mr. Banker, there is another point in that connection, and

that's this. You started off to get a central reserve, a true reserve,

as I supposed, as distinguished from the reserves of the National Banks

that are all loaned out all the time. Then, your reserves were all

broken up in the end, first into three hundred and twenty banks, and

at the end into fifty-five banks, located in New York, Chicago and St.

Louis. What we must have, it seems to me, is a real central reserve in

the form of unloaned gold, and then permit the banks to use their cash

reserves, if by any chance they needed them in part at least.

I notice that you carry about $100,000 in accordance with the legal

requirement. Now, just as you said a while ago, there are times of

the year when you could easily carry $200,000; but again there are

times when you want to use a part of the $100,000, possibly as much

as $75,000 of it. Why should you not do it, and then accumulate the

necessary excess in the slack time to make up your average for the year.

MR. BANKER: That is precisely what we ought to be permitted to do.

MR. LAWYER: Then, Mr. Banker, instead of sending as you now do, 9 per

cent of your deposits, or $175,000, to a reserve city, and that city in

turn sending a part of it to some central reserve city, your balance

with your reserve city should be sufficient to carry your exchange

account, and the balance go to a great central gold reserve, upon

which you and your fellow bankers throughout the country could rely

absolutely when the emergency came.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I have been listening to you gentlemen with intense

interest, and must say that you have worked this plan out completely

and practically.

I see what an enormous advantage it would be to a bank to use its

reserve as a reserve should be used, and what an absolute guarantee

of protection it would be to have all the reserves of all the banks

centralized, and ready to help anyone of them in need of gold, because

the gold was actually on hand, and had not been loaned out as the banks

now do; but I have been wondering where the State Banks and Trust

Companies were going to get 10 per cent more reserves of their demand

deposits to put up in this central gold reserve. You must remember that

they have five billion of deposits.

MR. BANKER: I can tell you how to do that; that is very easy.

When the State Banks come into the National system as they certainly

will, if you have the right kind of a system, they will exchange their

notes for the gold or gold certificates that are now in circulation,

as they come in over their counters. You see that all the gold and

gold certificates that are now held by the banks only amount to

$879,000,000, although there is in the country $1,850,000,000 of gold,

practically one billion of gold, or $10 of gold for every man, woman

and child out in the corn, cotton and wheat fields; in the mining

camps, when as a matter of fact, this gold should be in the reserves

of our banks, protecting our bank credits; and bank notes should be in

the corn, cotton and wheat fields, in the mining camps filling the true

function of currency, and where gold, or gold certificates are not at

all needed.

MR. LAWYER: Now, wait a moment, Mr. Banker, and let me see if I grasp

that. It is very important that we should all understand this. I am

exceedingly anxious to, and it strikes me that we are at a mighty

interesting juncture of this subject. If a State Bank with a reserve

of $70,000 came into your National system and had to increase its

present reserve, which is only 7 per cent, by as much as 10 per cent,

it could do so by simply retaining the gold and gold certificates as

they were deposited from day to day, and pay out its bank notes to the

extent of one hundred thousand dollars. The result would be that the

bank would increase its liabilities by $100,000, but it would also

increase its reserves by $100,000. That is certainly a perfectly sound

proposition. Before the bank came into the system, its reserves were

only 7 per cent, or $70,000, since its deposits were $1,000,000. After

it goes into the National system, it has changed $100,000 of its notes

for $100,000 of gold, or gold certificates, as they came in over the

counter; it now owes $1,100,000, of which $100,000 is of notes, but it

now has $187,000 of reserves of all of its demand liabilities, or 17

per cent, instead of $70,000, or 7 per cent, as before.

MR. MERCHANT: Isn't that a simple and very easy thing to do? And what

tremendous strength it would give to the whole banking situation

immediately.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Then when you think of it, what a stupendous piece of

folly it is, to have all this gold floating around the country, doing

no possible good, when a piece of credit paper, or bank note, would do

the work just as well.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Anybody can see that. A man that can't ought to be

arrested for want of brains. He'd have to plead guilty. Putting that

gold that you need in your bank reserves at the rate of one dollar of

gold for five or six dollars of credit into the streets, cotton fields,

corn fields and in the mines, is no greater piece of folly than it

would be to send a six-horse team to haul Mr. Farmer home, when one

horse would do just as well.

UNCLE SAM: Mr. Laboringman has got this thing dead right. In fact, in

my judgment, he has the horse sense of this crowd. Give him a show,

I'll bet on him every time, he always takes a short cut, and hits the

nail square on the head.

MR. MERCHANT: Suppose, Mr. Banker, that all the banks of the country

should come into the National system, and put up, say 10 per cent, as

you suggested a while ago, of their demand or individual deposits, and

5 per cent of their savings deposits, what would your central gold

reserve amount to?

MR. BANKER: On June 14, 1912, the Comptroller of the Currency reported

that the individual deposits amounted to ten billion five hundred

million ($10,500,000,000), and that the savings deposits, outside of

the mutual savings bank, amounted to two billion eight hundred and

seventy-two million ($2,872,000,000).

If the State Banks and Trust Companies should become National Banks,

and bring their reserves up to the National standard, by exchanging

their notes for gold; that is, exchanging $468,000,000 of their notes

for that much gold, the result would be as follows:

Individual

Deposits $10,500,000,000 @10% $1,050,000,000

Savings

Deposits 2,872,000,000 @ 5% 143,600,000

Bank Notes 1,219,000,000 @10% 121,900,000

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Making a total central gold reserve of $1,315,500,000

This is just double what the gold reserve of France is, the largest

gold reserve in the world today, but when you consider the fact that

our banking resources are 45 per cent of the total banking resources of

the world, it should be even more than that. It is interesting to note

that in making this readjustment for a central gold reserve it would be

just $100,000,000 larger than our bank note circulation.

With this central reserve of gold created, the United States could then

control the inflow and outflow of gold to and from the United States,

precisely as England controls the movements of gold today by fixing the

rate of discount or a price for the use of gold.

UNCLE SAM: Well, boys, if there is one phase of this question that you

have treated with a greater thoroughness and more satisfactory results

than any other, to my mind, it is your plan for protecting our bank

credits with ample gold reserves. They are so disposed of as to keep at

all times all bank credits in touch with gold, and therefore as good as

gold; at the same time have developed a great central gold reserve in

harmony with the practice of the great commercial nations of the world,

and commensurate with my importance as a banking power in the world.

You have made this subject so clear and conclusive that I need not

restate the points you have made.

I hope our next night will be as satisfactory as this has been.

Good Night.

ELEVENTH NIGHT

THE BANK

UNCLE SAM: At our last meeting you considered the very important

element in banking, of reserves, and seemingly the final factor that

enters into the structure of a bank. You have run the whole schedule

off, I think. Standard of value, money, currency, exchange, capital,

credit, government credit as money and as currency, land credit as

money and as currency and reserves. What else can there be?

MR. BANKER: I do not think there is any particular topic for us

to tackle now, but the bank itself, and I want to be permitted in

the outset to describe just what a bank is, and what it does. I do

not think there is any single thing in business life that is so

misunderstood. People think of a bank as a kind of mystery.

The banker is a merchant in money and credit, and precisely as you can

say that a man is a hardware merchant, cotton goods merchant, grain and

flour merchant, so you can say that the banker is a money and credit

merchant. He deals in these two things.

Let me illustrate this in a simple way. If Mr. Farmer should come to

me to borrow a thousand dollars for three months, and I should make

him the loan, as we say, I, as a banker, would buy his note, due in

three months. That is just what happens every time a bank makes a loan;

it simply buys the note. Now, in all probability I would not give Mr.

Farmer any actual money, but would simply give him credit for one

thousand dollars on the books of the bank, so that he could draw his

check against it. In other words, I would owe him one thousand dollars.

I have created a debt to him of one thousand dollars; in short, I have

traded debts with him. He has given me his note, which is a debt for

one thousand dollars due in three months, and I have given him credit

on the books of the bank, a debt due to him on demand. The transaction

does not differ in the slightest degree from the trade of horses for

cattle. Let me demonstrate this. Suppose that Mr. Farmer came to me and

offered me two of his Jersey cows for my horse and buggy, because he

does not want the cows, but does want the horse and buggy to do a lot

of running around. I want the cows to milk, and so make the exchange

with him. He gets something that meets his pressing needs in the horse

and buggy, and I get something from which I receive an income, the cows

from which I get milk. This corresponds to the interest on his note,

and by the way, the cream would be my profit.

MR. LABORINGMAN: That's it; you bankers are always milking the public,

and the interest you get is all cream; all profit.

MR. BANKER: Oh, no! it is not as bad as that. Don't make such a

mistake. The average cost to the bankers of the country, outside of any

losses, is about 4 per cent upon their deposits for interest paid on

deposits, rent for building, clerk hire and other general expenses. So

you see that it is not all profit by any means.

But let me get right back to what I was saying. The banker is nothing

but a trader who keeps an open shop for the purpose of trading his

debts for the debts of his depositors; or to put it in another way,

for the purpose of exchanging his credit for actual money which is

deposited with him, or for checks and drafts that are deposited with

him, or for promissory notes which he buys when he loans money to his

customers, and gives them credit on his books for the amount of the

loans. All these different things, money, checks, drafts and promissory

notes are bought by the banker with his credit, and the greater the

amount he buys with his credit the greater will be his debt. But, you

will probably say these are his deposits. Very true, but his deposits

are his debts. Don't forget that.

MR. LAWYER: Mr. Banker, you have accurately described the situation,

just as it exists today, and that, of course, is what we are interested

in; but it seems to me as though it would be a great help to us to

follow the development of banking, as we have it now.

MacLeod, the highest authority upon banking credit, and the theory of

banking, used this language: "The first business of a banker is not to

lend money to others, but to collect money from others."

Bagehot used this language, in describing the business of the bank:

"Thus, a banker's business--his proper business--does not begin while

he is using his own money; it commences when he begins to use the

capital of others."

Many writers have maintained that a bank should only be allowed to

create exactly as much credit as the specie paid in, and that its

sole function should be to exchange its credit for coin, and coin for

credit; and that the quantity of the bank's credit should always be

exactly the same as the coin it displaces. This principle is called the

currency principle.

Many banks in the world's history have been constructed on this

principle, especially those famous banks at Venice, Hamburg, Amsterdam

and several others.

These cities, small in themselves, were the centers of great foreign

commerce; and as a natural consequence, an immense quantity of coin

and denominations of all sorts of different countries was brought

by the foreigner who resorted to them. These coins were, moreover,

greatly clipped, worn and diminished. The degraded state of the current

coin produced intolerable inconvenience, disorder and confusion among

merchants, who, when they had to make or receive payment of their

bills, had to offer or receive a bag full of all sorts of different

coins. The settlement of these bills, therefore, involved perpetual

dispute--which coins were to be received, and which were not, and

how much each was to count for. In order to remedy this, it finally

became absolutely necessary that some fixed uniform standard of payment

should be devised, to insure regularity and a just discharge of debts.

In order to do this, the magistrates of those cities instituted a

Bank of Deposit, in which every merchant placed all his coins of

different kinds and nations. These were all weighed, and the bank gave

him credit, either in the form of notes, or a credit on their books,

exactly corresponding to the real amount of the bullion deposited. The

owner of this credit was entitled to have it paid in full weighted coin

on demand. These capital credits, therefore, always insured a uniform

standard of payment; and it was enacted that all bills upon these

respective cities, above a certain amount, should be paid in these Bank

Credits, which were called _Bank Money_. The consequence was evident,

as this Bank Credit, or Bank Money, was always exchangeable for money

of full weight on demand; it was always at a premium.

These banks professed to keep all the coin and bullion deposited with

them in their vaults. They made no use of it in the way of business,

as by discounting bills. Thus the credit created was exactly equal to

the specie deposited and their sole function was to exchange specie for

credit and credit for specie.

These banks were examples of the currency principle; they were of no

further use to commerce than this, that they served as a safe place

to keep money in--and they insured a uniform standard of payment for

debts. They made no profit by their business, but those who kept their

accounts with them paid certain fees to defray the expenses of the

establishment.

Later and during the civil war in Great Britain the goldsmiths of

London began to receive the cash of the merchants on deposit. They not

only agreed to repay it on demand, but to pay 6 per cent per annum

for the use of it. Consequently, in order to enable them to do that,

the deposits necessarily became their property to trade with as they

thought best.

When, therefore, these goldsmiths received this money on deposit,

they gave in exchange for it, or issued to their customers a credit,

or right to demand back an equal amount of money at will. And it must

be noted that it is this banker's credit which in banking language is

termed a deposit. The money itself is called an asset, or resource.

MacLeod says that in practice it will be found that in ordinary

times a banker's balance in cash will seldom differ by more than one

thirty-sixth part from day to day. So that if he retains one-tenth part

of his cash to meet any demands for payment that may be made, that is

ample and sufficient in ordinary times.

The banker, therefore, can see that if an amount of cash was sufficient

to support ten times the amount of his liabilities, he might safely buy

debts to several times the amount of cash in his hands.

From this you see clearly by evolution a banker is a trader, just as

Mr. Banker said a few moments ago, whose business consists in buying

money and debts by creating other debts. If he has taken actual money

on deposit, he has bought it, and if he has received checks and drafts

on deposit, he has bought them likewise with his credit.

Thus, it is seen that the essential and distinctive feature of a bank

and a banker is to issue credit payable on demand, and that this credit

may be put into circulation and serve as money.

_First_: They might demand payment in cash; if they did so, the banker

canceled his debt.

_Second_: The banker, if his customer wished it, gave him his

promissory note to pay him or the bearer on demand such sum as he

might wish; this neither created nor extinguished a deposit, it merely

recorded it on paper for the convenience of transferring it to someone

else. This promise to pay was at first called a "Goldsmith's Note," and

is now called "A Bank Note."

_Third_: If the customer wished to make a payment he might write a note

to his banker desiring him to pay the money to some particular person,

or to his order, or to bearer. These notes were then called "Cash

Notes," but are now called "Checks."

Now, it is perfectly clear that neither a bank note, nor a check

creates any new right; it merely records on paper a right to have money

which already exists, and it is used for the purpose of transferring

that right to have money to someone else.

It will be noted now, and I want you to keep this observation clearly

in mind, that all banks are banks of issue, that is issues of credit.

MacLeod says that the very meaning of the words "To Bank" is to issue a

right of action or a credit, in exchange for money or other debts; and

when once the banker has issued this right of action, or right to have

money, to his customer by writing it down to his credit, it makes not

the slightest difference as to his liability whether he delivers his

own promissory note, that is a bank note, to his customer, or whether

he merely creates the credit, and gives him the right to transfer it to

someone else by means of a check.

When a person deposits money at the bank, it is not his intention to

deprive himself of the use of it; on the contrary, he means to have

as free use of it as if it were in his own purse. The depositor,

therefore, lends his money to his banker, but yet at the same time has

the free use of it, as the bank employs that same money in promoting

trade; upon the strength of the money being deposited with the bank,

it buys debts with its promises to pay, either in the form of "Bank

Notes," or of credit on its books, several times exceeding the amount

of the cash placed with it; and the depositors who sell the bank their

debts, have the free use of the very same coin which the depositor has

the right to demand; thus the lender that is, the depositor, and the

borrower that is, the banker, have the same right at the same time to

the free use of the same money. All banking depends on the calculation

that only a certain small portion of each set of depositors will demand

the actual cash, but that the majority will be satisfied with the mere

promise, the "Bank Notes" or the credit on the books of the bank.

Banking is a species of insurance; it is theoretically possible that

a banker may be called upon to pay all his deposits at once, just as

it is theoretically possible that all the lives insured in an office

may end at the same instant; or it is theoretically possible that all

the houses insured may be burned at the same hour. The depositors and

noteholders of the Bank of England could demand payment the same day.

All the depositors and noteholders of the Bank of France could demand

payment the same day. All the depositors of any bank could demand

payment the same day. But all banking, as well as all insurance, is

based upon the expectation that these contingencies will not happen,

and the average experience of life proves that they do not happen. A

banker multiplies his debts to be paid on demand and keeps buying a

sufficient amount of cash to insure the immediate payment of all claims

which are _likely_ to be demanded at one time. If a pressure comes upon

him he must sell some of the securities he has bought, or borrow money

on them.

When the customer discounts a note at his bank he parts with the

property in it, just as when he sells any other article. The note

becomes the absolute property of the banker and he may sell it again,

or pledge it, or deal with it in any way that suits his own interests

best.

The notes in the safe of a banker are exactly similar to the goods in

the shop of a retail dealer. The retail dealer buys the goods from the

wholesale dealer and sells them at a higher price to his customers;

and, as he makes a profit by doing so, the goods are _capital_ to him.

Notes likewise are goods, or merchandise, which the bank buys from its

own depositors at a discount, or bearing interest for a time, and as

the bank makes a profit by so doing, the notes are _capital_ to the

bank precisely in the same way that the goods in the shop of the retail

dealer are _capital_.

Now, lest we shall be misled, I want to call your attention to an

error which is very common. Many persons not being aware that the word

"_Deposit_" in banking language means the credit created in exchange

for money, checks, drafts or notes bought, when they hear or read that

a bank has such an amount of deposits conceive or suppose that the bank

has that amount of cash on hand to trade with.

When it is said that a bank has $10,000,000, $50,000,000 or

$100,000,000 or $200,000,000 of deposits, they are not deposits in

cash at all; they are almost entirely pure credit, and are exactly

equivalent to just as many "Bank Notes." They are nothing but an

enormous superstructure of _Credit_ built up on a comparatively small

basis of reserves exactly like the note circulation. These figures do

not show the quantity of cash at the command of the bank that can be

traded with; but they show the quantity of business the bank has done,

and the debts or liabilities it has created. These deposits, then,

which so many think are cash, are in fact nothing but the credits the

banks have created in exchange for the cash and notes which figure on

the other side of the balance sheet as assets or resources.

This play of bank credit has been graphically described by Joseph

T. Talbot, the Vice-President of one of our largest National Banks;

he says: "A customer holding a bank note may present it for deposit

and credit, instead of demanding redemption in cash. In this case,

there is a conversion from the circulating form of credit, payable to

bearer, back to a 'Book Credit,' payable to order, as was ordinarily

the case. Thus it will be seen that all these forms of 'Bank Credits'

are interchangeable, one for another, at the pleasure of the holder

of the credit. The difference between these several forms of credit

involves no changes whatever in the bank's liabilities. They amount to

about the same difference which exists, let us say, between a coupon

bond and a registered bond. The one is payable to bearer, the other

is not. At one time a bank note may best serve a customer's needs; at

another time he might prefer a deposit in the bank; or again he might

prefer 'exchange.' All these interchangeable uses of credit actually

and continuously take place. It will now be clear that a circulating

'Bank Note' in the hands of the public does not differ essentially from

a 'Deposit Credit' on the bank's books.

"If one of your local bankers were asked how much he allowed his bank

to issue in cashier's checks, he would tell you that he issued whatever

sums his customers wanted; either against their balances, or against

new loans. He would tell you the same in respect of the amount of

exchange he issued; his sole rule and guide being the amount of such

credit which his customers require, and which he is in position to lend

afresh, and to maintain against, or to redeem in cash, if demanded. If

asked how long these obligations were allowed to remain outstanding,

he would tell you that he had no control whatever over the period of

their circulation; that these obligations stood out just as long as the

holders wanted to use them in that form, and no longer; that his only

concern was in being prepared to redeem the obligations on demand in

cash.

"Thus it is that the volume of bank credits, whether in the form

of deposits, checks or notes, responds in a rise or fall according

as there is legitimate trade demand; and over this the bank has no

control, except by ceasing to make loans. This is why deposits increase

as loans increase, and these increase as the volume of business

increases."

Now, if we understand the real nature of these so-called deposits, the

reason for their diminution is plain. Deposits fall because loaning

stops. When you stop loaning, you stop creating credit. You can

readily see that it is not a diminution of deposits in cash, but it is

a contraction of credit, a refusal to make loans.

This erroneous notion of the real meaning and nature of deposits

in banking language may lead to very great mistakes in estimating

the stability of a bank. That a bank's stability depends on a due

proportion being kept between the deposits or the liabilities and

the cash; and it may very well happen that while the deposits are

apparently mounting high, and might lead many persons to believe

that the actual quantity of cash was increased, it might be nothing,

perhaps, but a dangerous extension of credit. And if this were carried

too far, the bank might be in the most dangerous position just when it

was apparently most flourishing.

Now, let us consider how a banker who has purchased either money or

notes from his customers by creating deposits or debts, may be used

by his depositors. That is how the depositors may use these credits.

Of course, every banker does business exactly in the same way, or

practically so, and when their customers begin to use checks these

different results may follow:

_First_: The actual money may be drawn out.

_Second_: The credit may be transferred to the account of another

depositor of the same bank.

_Third_: The check may be an order to pay another bank. But in this

case, if the first bank is ordered to pay the second bank so much,

the chances are that the second bank will be ordered to pay the first

bank practically the same amount. If the claims of the two banks on

each other were exactly equal, the respective checks or orders are

interchanged, and the credits readjusted to the different customers'

accounts accordingly, without any payment in money. If it should happen

that the claims of all the banks against each other exactly balanced,

any amount of business might be carried on, without requiring a single

dollar of gold coin. If the mutual claims of the different banks

against each other do not exactly balance, it is only necessary to pay

the differences in coin.

Now, exactly to the degree that banks are brought into a closer

relationship with each other by such means, the smaller is the quantity

of coin required to carry on the business of the country; or the more

gigantic is the superstructure of credit which can be reared upon a

given reserve.

From what I have already said, you must all see that a merchant deals

with credit; but a banker is a dealer in credit. A merchant brings

his notes or debts, that are payable some time in the future, to the

banker for sale, and the banker buys them for credits in the form of

deposits, or debts payable instantly, which have precisely the same

effect in commerce as so much gold. He reaps exactly the same profit

by creating a credit in favor of his depositor as if he gave him the

actual cash. The checks drawn against these credits so created by the

banker circulate commodities in trade precisely in the same way that

bank notes do which circulate commodities precisely in the same way

that gold coin does. Consequently, these bank credits so created by

the banker, whether upon his books subject to check, or in the form of

bank notes, are exactly equal in their practical effects, so far as

exchanging commodities is concerned, to the creation of so much gold

coin.

This being true, you must realize how absolutely essential it is that

every bank credit must be kept as good as gold by current redemption in

gold everywhere, whenever demanded.

MR. BANKER: Mr. Lawyer, in all that you have said you have only

affirmed what I said in the outset; the banker is a shopkeeper, a

trader exchanging his credit for money and debts.

The development of the banking business in the United States is most

interesting, and its growth has been simply marvelous.

On Feb. 25, 1863, almost fifty years ago, when the National Banking

System was inaugurated, there were in the eastern states, including

New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, what are known as Mutual

Savings Banks. These institutions are run solely for the benefit of

the depositors. This is upon the theory that those using savings

banks are the wards of the state. These Mutual Savings Banks have no

capital and the trustees, or directors, serve without pay. There are

today in the United States 650 of these Mutual Savings Banks, with

deposits amounting to $3,608,000,000. Practically all of these Mutual

Savings Banks are located in the east, there being only thirty-one

west of Buffalo. These few got a start before the present conditions

of banking grew up. Today it is quite impossible to start a Mutual

Savings Bank anywhere, because the State Banks and Trust Companies

are able to pay such high rates of interest, owing to the fact that

they can conduct the Savings Bank business as a part of their regular

commercial business, or as a part of their Trust Company business. That

is, the Savings Bank business is incidental to their regular business,

and requires no separate and special organization. If there are any

extra charges they would be nominal at most. The savings business being

conducted over the same counter, this particular branch of banking may

be regarded as done at no cost to them. Under the circumstances it is

very easy to see how the State Banks, and those banking institutions

more recently organized, known as Trust Companies, have absorbed all

the savings business where the Mutual Banks had not already been

permanently established.

Another reason that has enabled them to do this is the fact that

in most states there are no prescribed rules for the investment of

savings bank deposits, and the banks are using the savings deposits for

commercial purposes, and also in speculative ventures, particularly

in the way of underwritings where the profits are much larger than

could be realized from such funds if they were limited to investments

of the highest order where, as you know, the rates of interest are

comparatively much lower.

MR. MERCHANT: How many such institutions are there?

MR. BANKER: There are today thirteen thousand three hundred and

eighty-one State banks, with four hundred and fifty-nine million of

capital and two billion nine hundred million of deposits.

Side by side with these state banks are 1,292 State Savings Banks, with

seventy-seven millions of capital and eight hundred and forty-three

millions of deposits. These State Savings banks differ only in name

from the regular State banks. The only point to be noted in this

connection is that the local statutes, or the laws of the State where

the bank is located, always determine whether the name will be a State

Savings bank, or a State bank. It may be assumed that whatever the

name, the business carried on is practically the same all over the

United States, with here and there some slight difference, but no

substantial variance.

MR. MANUFACTURER: These institutions you have named do not include the

Trust Companies, do they? There seems to be a perfect craze to start

Trust Companies now. Why is that?

MR. BANKER: Within the past twenty-five years there has grown up,

almost as if by magic, the class of banks you have just mentioned,

differing from State banks and State Savings banks only in one single

respect, but that is an all-comprehending one. Enterprising men in

almost every state have secured the passage of laws for what they call

a Trust Company business. Generally speaking, what you cannot do under

a Trust Company Charter is some kind of a business that has not yet

been thought of.

There are 1,410 of such Trust Companies, so called, with capital

amounting to $419,000,000 owing individual deposits amounting to

$3,674,000,000 with $450,000,000 additional liabilities, or something

over four billion dollars, all told.

This vast business has grown up outside of the National banking

system, simply because the National bank could not, but these other

institutions could develop along natural lines of business progress.

Notwithstanding these obstacles, however, there is no kind of a banking

business that the National banks of the country are not doing in some

way or other. Of course, they are not all of them doing all kinds of

business, but they have worked out methods by which they can, if they

desire to do so. Of the 7,397 National Banks, nearly half of them,

3,039, are now doing a regular savings bank business, without any

express authority of law, and 2,340,226 depositors have deposited with

our National banks $659,500,000.

Who is there who does not know that either downstairs in the same

building, or upstairs in the same building, or around the corner in

some other building, with the back ends of the two buildings adjoining,

many, if not all, the National Banks have attachments, where they are

carrying on the Savings bank business and the Trust Company business

under state charters. National banks are under National supervision,

while the State banks and Trust Companies, owned and manipulated by

them, are under State supervision, or possibly under no supervision at

all.

There are many National banks holding the stock of other banks, either

Savings banks, State banks, or Trust Companies in their treasury, and

some of them are holding the stock of two or more banks. Only recently

it was discovered that a National bank had invested ten million

dollars, directly or indirectly, in other banks throughout the country;

possibly an examination would show that this ten million was partly

the stock of other National banks, and partly the stock of state bank

institutions such as Savings banks, State banks and Trust Companies.

Now, if there is one holding company more to be criticised, and more to

be abjured than any other, it is a bank holding company, controlling

the stock of a great many other banks, particularly so under different

supervision.

When we behold the malformation of banking as now carried on in this

country, due to the struggle of the various institutions to adjust

themselves to these new conditions and to take advantage of all the

opportunities in modern business, it reminds one of the crooked,

twisted, knotted, and sadly misshapen tree-trunk that has grown up

amidst and between huge rocks, that stand in the way of an upright

and symmetrical development. These huge bowlders and rocks are the

obsolete laws on our statute books, our ignorance, our selfishness, our

prejudice, our political cowardice and our demagoguery.

Like our mutual savings banks, the original idea was that a Trust

Company could only do a Trust business in the strict sense of that

word. They could hold a railroad mortgage, and pay interest to the

bondholders, perform similar functions for other corporations, and

could act as a trustee in case of estates. Today you may assume that

no kind of business will escape the scope of the charter of the

so-called trust company, from the care of estates and the execution of

corporate trusts to banking in all of its forms, and agencies of every

conceivable kind. In other words, the all-round charter of the American

Trust Company, popularly so called, permits it to do anything that the

varied affairs of the American citizen may by any chance require.

Just as there are in the east mutual savings banks, which are relics

of former days, so the Trust Companies, with their limited powers,

are only a landmark in the evolution of American banking, and must

disappear as a separate institution in time.

The growth and development in fifty years has produced in the United

States a banking unit, doing in a conglomerate way what it ought to be

doing as a departmental business, with four distinct functions: viz.,

a commercial business, the manufacturing of credit; a savings bank

business, accumulating the savings of the laboring masses, which is a

sacred trust fund that should be placed in high grade investments; a

trust company business, executing trusts, and carrying on agencies of

every kind; a note-issuing business, which is only another form of the

commercial business, as the bank note is in fact only another form, as

we have learned, of a deposit--a circulating credit in place of a check

credit for the convenience of the people.

From Feb. 1, 1863, the birth of the National Bank Act, down to the

present time there has not been one single change in the National

Bank law worth mentioning. It is true we have dotted an "i" here, and

crossed a "t" there; but as for a substantial change there has not been

a single one made. Now, this is truly a most marvelous fact, when you

consider how great have been the changes, especially since 1890, or

during the past twenty-two years. Our banking resources have increased

fourfold. In 1890 they were about six billion, today they are more than

twenty-five billion.

MR. LAWYER: This growth in our banking power is not so strange because

it only reflects the growth of our business. The clearings of the

United States in 1890 were only thirty-seven billion, while the

clearings this year must pass the hundred and seventy billion dollar

mark. The productions of the United States in 1890 were only seventeen

billion. The productions of the United States in 1912 will exceed

thirty-five billion dollars. The wealth of the United States in 1890

was only sixty-five billion dollars. The wealth of the United States in

1912 is estimated at about one hundred and twenty-five billion dollars.

The imports in 1890 were seven hundred and eighty-nine million; the

imports the present year will be one billion eight hundred million; the

exports in 1890 were eight hundred and forty-five million; this year

our exports will exceed two billion three hundred million dollars.

MR. FARMER: And do you mean to say with this vast, almost incalculable

increase of production and wealth and consequent increase of banking

resources, there has not been a single step taken by the National

Government to facilitate it?

MR. BANKER: Mr. Farmer, there has not been a single change made to

facilitate the handling of this vast business. On the other hand,

there seems to have been such a profound ignorance on the part of

Congress, or such an abject fear, lest they might aid business, that

every progressive movement of a legislative character has been left to

the states, which have given us laws as varied as Jacob's coat of many

colors; indeed, rivaling the fifty-seven varieties of the famous pickle

man.

Not only have they left the banking business to just "grow up" like

Topsy in Uncle Tom's Cabin; but the Government itself has been one of

the greatest obstructionists to the national growth of our banking

business in its interference with the natural movement of the money of

the country which by every economic law, and business right, belongs in

the channels of trade, and not in the strong boxes of the Government.

MR. MANUFACTURER: That is absolutely true. I was greatly impressed

only yesterday by a statement made by the Secretary of the Treasury

right on that point of Government interference with current business by

withdrawing money from circulation and piling it up in the vaults of

the treasury. In the light of what we have learned during our talks, it

is simply appalling; indeed, it does not seem possible in a civilized

country.

Secretary MacVeagh says in the outset, "No reform of your banking and

currency system can be adequate which does not take the United States

Treasury out of the banking business," and then adds:

"When the independent Treasury system was established the idea was

that all the funds of the Government should be stored in the Treasury

vaults in the form of money, just as the mediæval war lords kept

their treasures in strong boxes. The independent Treasury system was

established in troublesome financial days, when the State banks were

not the safest places for the deposit of money. The people decided

that the public funds must be kept in Government vaults for safety.

"In this country, with our rigid laws fixing the minimum reserves

the banks must hold, any loss of cash by the banks means an instant

contraction of their loaning power. If the banks of New York and

Chicago lose $100,000,000 cash, they must at once reduce their

liabilities by $400,000,000. This means that they must reduce by that

amount their loans to the business community.

"With the volume of bank credit moving in the reserve cities four times

as fast as the volume of cash, and throughout the country ten times as

fast as the volume of cash, it is plain that the machinery of credit

is extremely sensitive to variations in the amount of cash held by the

banks. For this reason, an institution like the United States Treasury,

alternately accumulating and disbursing many millions of cash, is

likely to create widespread disturbance in the money market.

"The funds held by the great European Governments vary from $25,000,000

to $50,000,000. The coin, bullion, and paper money held as assets in

the United States Treasury during the present Administration has varied

from $300,000,000 to $350,000,000. In other words, nearly one-tenth

of all the money in the country is held idle in the Treasury vaults.

If this money were all deposited in the banks it would increase their

reserves 20 per cent.

"The receipts and disbursements of the Treasury are most irregular.

The Treasury receipts in 1907 exceeded the disbursements by

$91,000,000. Two years later the disbursements exceeded the receipts

by $118,000,000. For the past two years receipts have again exceeded

disbursements. The general fund in the Treasury was $272,000,000 in

1907; three years later it had fallen to $106,000,000. Under our

present system of keeping a large surplus Government fund idle in the

Treasury these wide variations in the yearly balance not only seriously

disturb the money market and the business of the country, but force the

Secretary of the Treasury to enter actively into the money market as a

paternal overseer of the machinery of credit.

"It not infrequently happens that surplus revenues accumulate in the

Treasury just at a time when the banks are straining their resources to

grant all the credits needed to finance a business boom. The Treasury

then takes money out of the banks and hoards it just at the time when

the country most needs it. If the business boom goes so far as to

strain credit to the breaking point, then the Treasury must come 'to

the relief of the situation,' by depositing some of its hoarded cash

in the banks. In recent years the Treasury has been carrying a large

surplus, and it has been in a position to relieve financial tension by

depositing funds in the banks. In December, 1907, following the money

panic, the special deposits in the banks by the Treasury had reached

$256,000,000. Three years later they were reduced to $4,000,000. In

the fiscal year 1908-1909, the Treasury withdrew $100,000,000 from the

banks.

"This state of affairs places in the hands of the Secretary of the

Treasury a power greater than any American should have. The power of

the Secretary to influence the money market by deposits or withdrawals

of public funds is always dangerous. No Government officer should have

this power. It has been a great burden, I believe, on the shoulders of

every recent Secretary of the Treasury Department.

"If the people realized how dangerous is the power in the hands of

the Secretary of the Treasury, they would insist that the Treasury

be at once taken out of the banking business. Accustomed as we are

to Government interference with the money market, few of us realize

how the Treasury in the past few years has exercised the central-bank

function of regulating the discount rate. The Treasury, by alternate

deposits and withdrawals of the public money in the banks, as well as

by other devices, has attempted to regulate the discount rate.

"The Treasury Department should be divorced from the money market and

from the banking business, and the way to effect the reform is plain.

We should have in this country a quasi-public institution not only to

hold the ultimate cash reserves of the banks and to regulate the rate

of discount, but to act as the fiscal agent of the Government. Such an

institution would hold the Government balances as deposits, and the

Government could check against them just as any large business concern

checks against its balances in bank. With the Government balances

deposited in such an institution the business of the country would

never be disturbed by the Treasury hoarding up cash, and the Secretary

of the Treasury would no longer be forced to meddle in the money market.

"As long as we have the present banking and currency system, we

shall have panics--and no longer. Does not this alone create a state

of emergency? What doubt should there be of the urgency of this

legislation? Why should it take another wasteful and degrading panic to

impress Congress? Why cannot 1907 suffice? There are many other things

of prime importance to be secured through monetary reform, but if

nothing were to be secured but emancipation from panics there would be

abundant imperative reasons for immediate action by Congress."

MR. MERCHANT: This statement of Secretary MacVeagh proves absolutely

just what you said a moment ago, that the situation was appalling, and

when you realize that this practice has been kept up ever since 1846,

when the sub-treasuries were established, it is unbelievable.

The Act of Aug. 5, 1846, declared it a felony to deposit public money

in banks.

The United States Government has been committing an economic felony

ever since. It has been committing an economic crime against commerce

and the laboring interests of the country ever since that Act was

passed, and is doing it this very hour.

The Act of Feb. 25, 1863, establishing National Banks, authorized

their use as depositaries of the public money except "receipts from

Customs." Forty-four years later the Act of March 4, 1907, struck out

the words "except receipts from customs." By the Act of March 2, 1911,

bank checks were made receivable for Customs dues, but no step has been

taken by the Treasury of the United States to make them so at New York,

Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Cincinnati, New Orleans, Philadelphia, St.

Louis, San Francisco and Washington, where the United States Government

still has its morgues for our money. Every day the checks are presented

which are sent in in accordance with the law, and the actual money

is withdrawn from the channels of trade; that is, the United States

Government withdraws reserve money to the full extent of every dollar

that is due it.

MR. LAWYER: While Mr. Manufacturer was reading what Secretary MacVeagh

said, I have been wondering what the people would do if the United

States Steel Corporation, the Standard Oil Co., J.P. Morgan or John

D. Rockefeller, or any of the railroad companies, or any other great

interest, should collect and hold in safe-deposit boxes hundreds of

millions of money, just as the United States Treasury does.

MR. FARMER: I'll tell you what we would do. We would blow them up

mighty quick, and hang them to boot, that's what we'd do.

MR. MERCHANT: Gentlemen, just think what it means to withdraw these

hundreds of millions of reserve money from the channels of trade, say

in the fall, keeping in mind that every dollar that the Government

grabs and withdraws, will support from five to ten times that amount

of credit. The withdrawal, as Mr. MacVeagh said, of one hundred

million dollars, means the contraction of from five hundred million to

a billion dollars; this is not only a fool's practice, but it is an

actual crime against the commerce of the country; a crime against the

producers, a crime against the laboring men of the country.

MR. LAWYER: How long, O Lord, how long, shall we remain the laughing

stock of the rest of the world? But, let us see, can any man here give

me a single reason why the United States Government should not deposit

its money with the banks, precisely as all the other governments of

the world do? It seems to me perfectly clear that the United States

Government should treat its income precisely as this town does, this

county does, this state does. Is there any conceivable reason why it

should not act in this matter precisely as New York City, Chicago, New

York State and Illinois, and every city and every state does?

MR. BANKER: Not one in the world.

MR. MANUFACTURER: This discussion upon the development of banking in

the United States and the present treasury situation brings out the

necessary reforms most vividly to my mind from these two points of

view, the banks, and the treasury.

_First_: Assuming that we are all agreed as to the result of our talk

last Wednesday night upon reserves, that they must be national to be

equal and adequate, our conclusions now are inevitable, (1) we must

give to the National banks the power to do a Savings bank business, as

well as a Commercial business; (2) we must give our National banks the

power to do a Trust Company business; (3) we must give our National

banks the power to issue a pure credit Bank Note precisely like that

issued by the Scotch Banks and the Canadian Banks, and was issued by

the five hundred banks in New England before the war. These notes will

go to the Clearing Houses every day with the checks and drafts to be

cleared at precisely the same time, and precisely in the same way.

_Second_: We must take the United States Government out of the banking

business, so that its transactions will cease to be a disturbing factor

in the everyday affairs of the commercial world.

MR. BANKER: You have outlined these necessary reforms splendidly, but

there are just two more points in this connection that must not escape

our attention. They are these:

_First_: All these various forms of banking are distinct in character

and economically the funds of each perform a peculiar function that

must be recognized and observed or we shall make a great fundamental

error in constructing what we hope will prove a sound financial and

banking system. We must provide that the commercial function, the

savings function, the trust function shall be kept apart by separating

the funds arising from each, and keeping them completely segregated, in

order that the country may always know just what its commercial fund

is, as distinguished from its investment fund.

_Second_: There is such a great demand for Farm Mortgage Loans by those

who are pursuing agriculture that I am convinced that some provision

should be made whereby the farmers of this country could obtain

money upon their lands, as cheaply as our great railroads and other

corporations are able to do. I have given this matter much study, and

as you gentlemen are aware, I am a member of the Committee appointed by

the American Bankers' Association to investigate and report the best

method possible to accomplish this purpose. Therefore I think that we

had better consider it here.

MR. LAWYER: I am in perfect accord with what you are aiming at, but it

is almost eleven o'clock.

MR. LABORINGMAN: I have been waiting patiently to see whether you

gentlemen were going to provide in some way for coöperative credit, but

up to date, you've not peeped a word.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Both of these subjects are really outside of a

financial and banking system, the particular thing we set about

creating. However, I am perfectly willing to take a night to discuss

them, and if we should find that either or both of them should

constitute a part of our plan I am ready to adopt them.

MR. BANKER: All right, I am agreed, and I think we all are agreed that

it is not only fair, but advisable, that we take up the whole subject

next Wednesday night.

UNCLE SAM: Do you know, boys, I am really proud of the work you are

doing; you've gotten on swimmingly. You have shown such fine moral

courage in caving in when you found out that you were wrong instead of

playing the part of the jackass that has not intelligence enough to

discern when he is in error, and too obstinate to change, if he happens

to find out by accident that he is wrong.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Uncle Sam, I am a Democrat, and I look upon that as a

personal stab.

UNCLE SAM: Just wait a minute, or playing the part of the elephant,

that is so turgid, or possibly designedly stupid, or so calm and by

self-satisfaction lulled into a conservatism that amounts to reaction,

and therefore refuses to move.

MR. MERCHANT: Well, I'm a Republican, and that looks like a slap at me.

However, I guess Uncle Sam is just in for a housecleaning tonight.

UNCLE SAM: You're both all right, personally, but your organizations

have been in wrong until just now there seems to be a patriotic

soul-awakening, and it's up to you to redeem them, or there will be

a housecleaning, and don't you forget it. I want men; men who have

intelligence and conscience; men who are capable and have convictions;

men who have moral courage; men who will fight if necessary to have

peace; I mean that peace that rules only when right prevails and

justice reigns.

Good Night.

TWELFTH NIGHT

LAND CREDIT BANK

UNCLE SAM: Boys, by unanimous vote we agreed at our last meeting to

devote tonight to the subjects that seem to lie close to the hearts

of Mr. Farmer and Mr. Laboringman. You will remember that Mr. Farmer

insisted that our work would not be complete unless we included in our

plan a Land Credit Bank, while Mr. Laboringman declared that he had

waited patiently to hear what we had to say about coöperative credit,

but in vain.

Since Mr. Farmer is a member of the committee appointed by the

agricultural society of his State to investigate the subject of Land

Credit Banks, I presume he is loaded to the guards and can tell us all

about it, and convince us, too, that he is right in his contention. I

suggest that we let him lead off tonight.

MR. FARMER: Well, gentlemen, I can assure you of my confidence of my

ability to convince you of the importance of recognizing my contention;

but I shall have to ask you all to be patient and agree to assist me in

working out the plan that is best adapted to our needs and conditions.

In studying this aspect of the banking problem, I think it will be

well to follow the steps of development up to date, just as we have in

considering other phases of this question, because experience is our

surest guide to tell us what not to do as well as what we ought to do.

In the outset, however, I want to call your attention to the fact,

that there is no subject of broader interest and more world-wide

discussion than the productivity of the soil. You are all aware, no

doubt, that there has been established at Rome the International

Institute of Agriculture, and that last summer fifty different

governments were represented there. Hon. David Lubin, of California,

represented this government. The President of the United States became

intensely interested and with the help of our foreign representatives,

particularly Hon. Myron T. Herrick, Ambassador to France, a vast amount

of most valuable information has been gathered, studied, digested and

classified. I think that we are now ready to take the matter up and

legislate upon it. Our interest ought to be greater and more intense

than that of any other nation on account of the number of our people

engaged in agriculture and the staggering interest rates they are

paying. Think of it.

The 12,000,000 farmers of the United States are adding over

$8,400,000,000 to the national wealth each year. They are doing this

on a borrowed capital of $6,040,000,000, on which $510,000,000 of

interest is annually paid. Counting commissions and renewal charges,

the rate averages at 8-1/2 per cent for this country as against 3-1/2

or 4-1/2 per cent for Germany. If the American farmers had a thoroughly

organized system of coöperative associations they would not only

save this difference of $200,000,000 or $250,000,000 to themselves

individually, but in the course of time the entire debt would be

transferred to the societies, the interest paid to them, an economic

waste stopped, and this stupendous sum restored to agriculture. The

assertion is neither fanciful nor extravagant. It is below the actual

ratio obtained by a comparison with the German figures.

There is practically no limit to the amount of capital that could be

advantageously employed for rehabilitating worn-out and abandoned

farms, opening up new areas, and introducing modern methods of

cultivation; and it is of vital importance that this capital be

obtainable at once in sufficient volume and on easy terms. The

world-wide problem caused by the pressure of population upon the

means of subsistence now confronts the United States in the very face

of its matchless natural resources and vast acreage of arable lands

still remaining untouched by the plow. The $385,000,000 of foodstuffs

exported last year barely equaled 76 per cent of the annual interest

charges on the debts the farmers owe.

The cause of the trouble is the lack of capital, and the remedy lies

in financing the farmer and the landowner. This is the indisputable

conclusion logically reached from examination into the actual

conditions and from comparisons furnished by recent European history.

The solution of the problem concerns the general welfare as much

as does the currency and monetary reform, and it is gratifying to

note that it seems destined to go side by side along with this

undertaking. For as soon as the alarm was sounded the best talent of

the nation became enlisted, and now bankers, merchants, professional

men, legislators, and private individuals in town and country, many

impelled purely by patriotic and disinterested motives, have combined

their efforts to better the situation before it pass to the acute and

critical stage.

The only instrument by which land-mortgage banks can finance

themselves, draw money from the public for investment in loans, are the

debenture bonds, but these bonds will not circulate freely nor far from

the place of issue unless they are known to have the same underlying

values and give the same rights to the holder, regardless of whether

they be secured by mortgages in Texas, Massachusetts, or in any other

State. But possessed of these characteristics as guaranties of law,

there is no reason why debentures of large mortgage banks should not be

listed in stock markets and sold, negotiated, and exchanged as readily

as railway and municipal securities, and thus equalize and reduce

interest rates for farmers throughout the country.

For our guidance that we may escape all cost of experience that has

been paid for by others, I am going to give you the benefit of my study

of the Government report upon this important subject and quote it

extensively as the best authority we have.

You must all realize that this almost complete organization of land

and rural credit in advanced European nations was not a haphazard

and spontaneous growth. It was brought about by the insistence of

public and private individuals, philanthropists, scholars, bankers,

legislators, agricultural societies, government commissions, and

national assemblies, all studying and working in a common cause. The

history of their efforts in the middle of the past century reads much

like an account of the agitation which has been started in the United

States by the American Bankers' Association, the Southern Commercial

Congress, the Federal authorities at Washington, and other bodies

and individuals, for financing the farmer, improving agricultural

conditions, and encouraging the movement back to the soil. In Europe

the agricultural banks and credit facilities were created before

agricultural or even general education was attempted. The United

States began at the opposite end. The American colleges and systems

for teaching agriculture are among the oldest and best in the world,

and millions of dollars have been appropriated by the Federal and

State Legislatures since the passage of the Morrill Act in Lincoln's

administration to aid this science in one way or another. Incalculable

good has come therefrom, but the results would have been far greater

if financial education had gone hand in hand with this work. It would

have led to the study and introduction of the rural banking methods of

Europe generations ago, and so familiarized the American farmers with

the uses of credit that the lack of capital and excessive interest

rates would not now be interfering with the agricultural development of

the country.

The development and history of Land Credit banks in Germany is most

interesting and is as follows:

The land-mortgage banks are either joint-stock corporations or

societies of borrowers. These latter are typified by the well-known

German Landschaften, and are the originals of all land banks. Before

them the private money lender reigned supreme. The organization of land

credit, in fact, began with them. They undoubtedly also suggested the

coöperative idea to Herr Schulze, because five, with nearly $60,000,000

of mortgage loans, were in existence in 1848, when he was trying

to start his personal-credit society at Delitzsche. These peculiar

institutions are associations of landowners, and have no shares and

pay no dividends, the profits, if any, going to reduce the loans; and

since they and their borrowers are identical, and managerial services

gratuitous, they have been able to lend money at lower rates than any

other kind of companies.

The establishment of the old Landschaften was the outcome of the

indebtedness and distress of the nobility, and their membership in

Germany is still composed mainly of that class and large landed

proprietors. After the Seven Years' War the nobles, who owned nearly

all the land, lacked the working capital necessary to repair and

cultivate their damaged estates, and so were unable to pay their

creditors. Frederick the Great ordered the suspension of interest on

all estate debts for three years. The period was subsequently extended.

The result was the withdrawal of the money lenders from agriculture,

the rise of interest to ruinous rates, and a financial stringency that

involved the public welfare. In order to relieve the situation this

autocratic King decided to adopt plans that had been submitted by

Herr Bühring, a Berlin business man. Accordingly, in 1769, by a royal

fiat, he forced the nobles of Silesia to join an association whether

they wished to borrow or not, and their lands were made jointly liable

without limit for all loans granted by the association. Loans were

granted only upon the consent of the directorate elected by the members

themselves. Great care was naturally exercised, so no losses occurred,

while immense credit came to the association.

This was the first Landschaft. Others were formed in the same fashion.

Nine more were formed by the Provinces and one voluntarily. Then two

companies were organized on the coöperative principle, so that there

are now twenty-five Landschaften. The mortgages held by them, all on

farm lands, exceed $500,000,000, and the interest rate runs as low as

4 per cent and 3.5 per cent per annum. The bonds by which the money

for these loans were obtained are secured by the mass of underlying

mortgages and general assets of the issuing association, and ultimately

by the unlimited liability of all its members. The collective guaranty

and the fact that loans are made only to members constitute the

characterizing features of a true Landschaft; but there is a growing

tendency to limit this liability and substitute reserves in place of it.

Originally a Landschaft did not give cash to a member in exchange for

his mortgage. It gave him a bond which simply contained a promise to

pay in the event the interest and principal could not be collected from

the debtor. The bond was of the exact size of the mortgage, primarily

secured by it, and made payable to bearer on a few months' notice. In

case of default the holder had to resort to foreclosure proceedings,

so the bonds had only a limited circulation, and were often sold below

par. This was but a slight advance on private money lending. Later the

associations undertook to collect the interest and principal. Finally

they assumed direct responsibility, and began to give cash to members

for their mortgages, raising funds for this purpose by issuing and

selling bonds of even denominations for large and small amounts. The

practice of requiring mortgages to be paid in lump was abolished, and

in place thereof the loans were made repayable by annual installments

running through a long period of years, and the installments were

set aside for redeeming the bonds. These steps brought about a

complete revolution in land credit and marked the beginning of the

land-mortgage business as it is known today. The whole theory of the

organization of land credit is based upon this debenture bond and

system of amortization and sinking funds devised and introduced by the

Landschaften. One without the other two is useless. The three must be

combined, and also coupled with strong management under wise laws

in order to attract a steady flow of cheap money to agriculture. It

is remarkable that this truth has never been realized nor applied in

the United States to farm-mortgage loans. In spite of the example of

practically every nation in Europe for generations, the lending of

money on mortgage in America still remains largely a mere brokerage

business unrestricted by proper governing laws, either by individuals

or corporations, while mortgages continue to be drawn up for three or

five years, when experience shows that the average life of a loan is

far in excess of that period and needs to be renewed time and again,

with added expense to the debtor and trouble for the creditor. Had

the European amortization system been employed the companies dealing

in western farm mortgages between 1890 and 1894 probably would have

escaped the misfortunes that brought them down to ruin.

Amortization is simply a method of paying off a loan by returning a

little of the capital each year. These payments are called annuities

and are composed of the interest and contributions to the sinking

fund and the cost of conducting business. They are calculated for

periods of ten to seventy-five years, and at the end of the period the

mortgaged debt becomes extinguished and the property returns to the

owner free and clear of all encumbrances. The prevailing interest rate

on amortizable mortgages in France at present is 4.3 per cent. But by

adding a little over 3.2 per cent to this, and paying 7.5 per cent a

year, a French farmer can extinguish his debt within twenty years and

obtain a satisfaction piece in full from his creditor. Thus, suppose he

borrowed $10,000. He pays $750 annually twenty times for the interest,

sinking fund and expenses. This makes a total of $15,000, interest

included, and his debt is paid off. A farmer in the Southwestern States

would pay this much for interest alone, and his debt would still be

unsatisfied. Amortization has a two-fold value. It lessens the debtor's

burden year by year and increases in an equal ratio the security

of the lender, provided, of course, the sinking fund created by the

accumulated annuities be properly and honestly kept for the redemption

of the debentures. The Landschaften were very particular in this

respect. Hence, their debentures obtained the confidence of the public,

and through their means they were able to draw capital from all parts

of the country for distribution among their members at the lowest rates

on record. If a holder of a bond wished his money back he had merely

to sell his bond in the open market. In this way fluidity was given

to real estate securities for the first time in history and the dream

of "mobilizing the soil" accomplished at last. For these reasons the

Landschaften hold the most prominent place in the literature on land

credit, and everybody who studies that subject must begin with them.

The old Landschaften, however, have many characteristics peculiar

to their own localities and dates of their foundation. They are in

fact governmental institutions, and their head officers are public

functionaries clothed with summary executive and judiciary powers over

the property, and, to some extent, over the actions of their associate

members. These powers were simply an enlargement of the feudal and

manorial rights possessed by princes in early times, and so, in many

respects, are contrary to modern ideas. But the new Landschaften, which

have adopted the best principles, present points worthy of careful

study. A description of these latter institutions is taken from the

excellent report of Sir F.A. Nicholson to the Madras Presidency in

India.

These new institutions are of different patterns. Several are annexes

to the older societies, but most are independent and resemble ordinary

mortgage banks, except in the essential point that they have no share

capital, earning dividends. They are, as the old societies, simply

syndicates of borrowers formed to supply proprietors with capital on

the lowest possible terms and repayable in the easiest manner. They

are gratuitous intermediaries between the outside capitalists and the

borrowers, and while performing services of the highest importance

in testing the security offered by the borrowers and in guaranteeing

to the public the safety of the capital lent by them, they charge

absolutely nothing for their services beyond a small commission,

perhaps one-fourth of 1 per cent, or even one-tenth of 1 per cent,

to cover actual expenses. It is usual for each association to be

restricted to a particular area of operations within which every

proprietor, whether noble or peasant, may obtain a loan if he can offer

sufficient security. There is always a minimum limit either to loans

or to the value of property on which loans will be given. This is

usually low. In the new Brandenburg Landschaft, affiliated to the old

Kur-und-Neumark Landschaft, loans may be granted on property having a

net income of only $25. The minimum limit is seldom even approached.

Members are those who borrow from the bank. They are generally

responsible in all their property, not merely for their own borrowings,

but for the debts of the society to the outside public. But in some

cases only the property pledged to the society is responsible; in

others they are bound, in case of need, to pay a sum proportionate to

the amount of their own borrowing. There are no shares to be paid up

except in two societies. These two resemble coöperative societies, for

the shares are personal and nontransferable, are of unlimited number,

varying with the number of members, and their value is claimable by a

withdrawing member. The share seems to be demanded simply to provide

a first working capital and the nucleus of a reserve. The amount of

the share is frequently a certain percentage of the amount of the loan

required. Some societies demand an entrance fee of a few cents, which

goes to the reserve. This reserve will be dealt with below.

The societies in general, having no share capital, do not lend their

own funds. The candidate for a loan asks that debentures may be issued

against a mortgage of his property. This is then examined. If the

security is approved the candidate executes a mortgage deed to the

society, which thereupon issues debentures which are placed on the

market and, being sold, provide the funds for the loan. In the old

banks the debentures are simply handed to the borrower, who sells them

for himself. In the new land banks either this is done or the bank

sells them and pays the borrower the value if below par, or if they

sell above par then the face value, the surplus going to the reserve;

or they simply issue debentures on the market and pay the borrower the

amount of the loan as settled. It will be seen, then, that the banks

have no capital and no need for it.

The debentures are for the usual class, secured not by the particular

mortgage on which they are issued, but by the whole mass of mortgages

held by the bank and by all its proper forms of security, viz., the

property of the members, the reserve or guaranty fund, and even the

sinking funds. In some banks a debenture holder has the right (never

needed, however) of requiring a court to assign a particular mortgage

against his debenture as a specific security in case the bank should

fail to pay him his interest or capital due. A debenture holder cannot

demand payment of his debenture, except when it is drawn for payment.

But the bank can call in any at six months' notice, besides withdrawing

them by lot in the usual way. These debentures enjoy an excellent

position, the 4 per cents selling usually at or above par. Since

cheapness of loans is the sole object of the bank, it is customary to

call in debentures selling at a premium and issue a fresh series at a

lower rate.

Loans are usually applied for to the district committee which each

bank has, with a statement of the property, the amount required, and

all documents necessary to prove title and freedom from encumbrance.

Properties may be valued by a special valuation, or a multiple of the

net income as assessed to the land tax may be taken. In both cases,

however, an inspection of the property is necessary unless under a

special rule. Half to two-thirds of the estimated value is allowable

as a loan. The interest paid by the borrower on the loans is that paid

by the bank on the debentures, the bank being merely an intermediary

between the borrower and the actual lending public. But where the

bank pays the loan in cash it charges such interest as it thinks

proper, in order to make up any loss should the debentures sell below

par. Loans are repayable almost entirely by amortization, usually

in about fifty-three years. Some short-term loans are granted, with

corresponding debentures. The bank cannot demand repayment of a loan

except in case of waste, deterioration, or the like. On the other hand,

the borrower is at liberty to repay in whole or in part whenever he

pleases, but must pay the entire interest for the half year in which he

repays. The loan is repaid by an annuity consisting of the interest,

sinking fund (usually beginning at one-half of 1 per cent), with a

contribution to the reserve or guaranty fund, and another for the

expenses of administration. The annuities have totaled 6 per cent, but

they now average around 4 per cent or lower; e.g., interest being 3 per

cent, sinking fund one-half of 1 per cent, guaranty fund one-fourth of

1 per cent, and expenses one-fourth of 1 per cent. Some of the banks

also require a lump payment on the grant of the loan of 1 or 2 per

cent, to be credited either to the working or to the guaranty fund. The

working fund is formed by the contribution made for the expenses of

management and any special sources.

Hungary is the only nation outside of Germany that has a true

Landschaft of the original type. But modified forms exist in Russia,

Austria, Switzerland, Denmark and Roumania, where they have been

useful in supplying agriculture with cheap capital. There is no older

principle in land credit than the Landschaften idea. It has been tested

and proved by over one hundred and thirty years of success, and could

undoubtedly be employed to advantage by water users' associations in

the irrigated regions of the West and in other parts of the United

States where landowners might unite to raise funds for drainage

or other improvements for their common good. Some of the banks of

Switzerland and the credit associations of Denmark, with the laws

governing them, perhaps furnish the best models, as appears from the

reports of the American ministers to those countries that have been

forwarded to the Secretary of State.

The most noticeable fact revealed by the investigation of the European

land-credit institution is the all-pervading presence of the state

in every nation. Most of the older joint-stock corporations have a

public character equal to that of the German Landschaften. Every one

that dates back to 1850 or 1860 was directly organized by the state or

brought into existence by a Government fiat or favoring legislation,

subsidized in some way or other and granted special privileges. The

supervision now exercised over them all is most stringent, going into

the minutest details and varying from direct control to surveillance by

state officials, usually by special laws that impose heavy penalties

for malfeasance or even neglect of regulations. Continental Europe

is accustomed to state intervention. Commercial credit was organized

by means of central banks connected with the Government, and so this

régime was naturally followed in organizing the land credit. For this

reason the results obtained, at least in some instances, cannot be used

by way of comparison to illustrate the possibilities of organization

along the lines of private and independent endeavor.

But whatever may be the opinion entertained for the State intervention

in the land-credit system of the Continent, there can be no doubt

that the working principles and business methods of the European

land-mortgage banks are the best ever devised, and that they will

have to be introduced into the United States if it be hoped to make

the farm mortgage a fluid and popular form of investment and direct a

flow of capital in sufficient volume to agriculture to enable it to

keep pace with the progress of the Nation. The main features of this

system are the limitation of the interest rate that can be charged,

the amortization of the debt, and wise and equitable regulations and

restrictions relative to loans and the issuance of debentures which

protect the farmer from extortion and thriftless borrowing, and at the

same time bring safety and a feeling of confidence to the investing

public. These features, with modifications and additions, appear in

all European land banks, whether they be semipublic, as they are in

France, Spain and Russia, or of a private character, as with some cases

in Germany, or of the mixed type of Switzerland and Italy, but are best

exemplified in the great Crédit Foncier of France--the largest and most

successful land bank in the world.

But Germany has progressed very decidedly beyond the so-called

Landschaften as exemplified by her great mortgage banks which,

though of comparatively recent operation, largely exceed in business

that of the Landschaften type, and it is here that we find many

vital suggestions for our guidance. Germany has general laws under

which these mortgage banks operate, but the rules of operation

and supervision are of the strictest kind. The mortgage banks of

Europe may be classified generally as public or semipublic, and as

strictly private institutions. The first have just been described.

The latter are all those which, whether they consist of lenders or

only of borrowers, operate under general laws and have absolutely

no privileges. The State, however, does not leave these companies

entirely to their own devices. They are limited in the conduct of

their business by strict rules and regulations, and are subject to the

most scrutinous supervision. The best law of this kind is that enacted

in Germany in 1899. It is the last word in legislation for private

joint-stock mortgage banks, and with slight modifications could be

easily adapted to the United States, as it was framed to overcome the

troubles occasioned by the conflict of authority between the sovereign

Provinces of which the Empire is composed. Remarkable as it may seem,

these companies in Germany have outstripped the old established and

specially privileged public banks. They now have $2,618,000,000 loaned

out on mortgage, or over five times more than the Landschaften. The

capital is $170,563,000, the smallest being $238,000 and the largest

$14,000,000. The bonds in circulation amount to $2,548,009,000, with

interest at 3-1/2 or 4 per cent per annum, while the average returns

on mortgage loans are 4.22 to 4.33 per cent per annum. As 6 per cent

and even 14 per cent dividends are yearly declared, the figures again

furnish a favorable comparison with the Landschaften and Crédit

Foncier. The provincial head, however, selects the president of one

of these newer German banks, while the Imperial Government watches

over them all. The supervision is carried out by royal commissioners

and extends to the minutest detail. These inspecting officials have

the right to verify the securities and cash on hand, and demand

information regarding every separate transaction. They may also send a

representative to general meetings of stockholders and to sittings of

boards of directors and take all measures that may seem fit to enforce

the proper conduct of business. They also approve the appointment of

the auditor and assistant auditor, who are charged in each bank with

the duty of seeing that debentures are issued only upon the conditions

and within the limits legally prescribed.

It will be observed that the mortgage business in Germany, as carried

on today, is an evolution. The same fact is evident in the changes that

have taken place in the Crédit Foncier, the greatest mortgage bank in

the world. The history of this great institution is as follows:

It was formed in 1852 under the law enacted that year for organizing

land credit and improving agricultural credit facilities. It was

immediately placed under Government control, given a subsidy, and

granted a monopoly for twenty-five years. The monopoly was not

renewed, but all its original special privileges remain, which perhaps

accounts for its being the only land bank in France. Its relation with

the State is very close, and many of its most important features were

taken bodily from the Landschaften. Inasmuch as the institution has

been the model for all Europe and is now being widely discussed in the

American press, I will describe it at length.

The governor and two subgovernors of the Crédit Foncier are appointed

for life by the President of the Republic. It is subject to the

surveillance of the Treasury Department of the Government, and three

of its directors must be high officers of the department. It may use

the Government treasuries for the receipt of its dues and the deposit

of its surplus funds and enjoys a reduction in stamp and registration

duties.

Its debentures are registered or payable to bearer, and the claim of a

third party to them cannot be made in court except in case of theft or

loss. Trust and public funds may be invested in them. Its mortgages are

exempt from the decennial registration and consequent charges required

of other mortgages. It has a cheap and speedy method of "purging" the

title of real estate in case of disputes. In the event of default the

courts cannot grant the debtor any delay and payments due it upon loans

cannot be garnished or attached. It is allowed summary proceedings for

attaching mortgage property in case of violation of contracts. If dues

are not paid or if the property deteriorates it may attach and sell

the property simply upon notice and publication. During attachment

proceedings it has a right to all returns from the estate. The sale may

be by auction in a civil court or at a notary public's office, if the

court permits, and no adverse claim to the proceeds of the sale can be

allowed until its claims are fully satisfied.

The regulations under which the Crédit Foncier transacts its business

are very strict. The mortgage loans must be first liens. The property

must have a clear and unencumbered title and yield a certain and

durable income. Loans and theaters, mines, and quarries are not

accepted. The amount loaned on any property must not exceed half its

value, or one-third the value for vine-yards, woods, orchards, and

plantations. Factory buildings are estimated without regard to their

value for particular purposes. A borrower cannot bind himself to

pay a greater annuity than the total annual income of the property

mortgaged, while on the other hand the society is not allowed to charge

borrowers 0.6 per cent over the rate at which it obtains money on its

debentures issued at the time of the loans. An excess of only 0.45 per

cent is allowed on loans to municipalities. The outstanding loans and

debentures issued must exactly correspond in amounts.

After paying a 5 per cent dividend the Crédit Foncier must set aside

between 5 and 20 per cent of the balance of the profits each year for

the obligatory reserve, and continue to do so as long as the same

does not equal one-half of the capital stock. The investment of this

reserve is left to the board of directors. The capital stock of the

society must be always maintained at the ratio of one-twentieth or

more of the debentures in circulation and is the primary guaranty of

its obligations, especially the debentures. The capital at present is

$40,000,000, divided into 400,000 shares of $100 each; but authority

has been obtained to increase the same to $50,000,000, represented by

500,000 shares, which will be done before the debentures in circulation

pass the legal limit. One-fourth of the capital must be invested in

French rentes or other treasury bonds; one-fourth in office buildings

of the society, or by loans to French colonies, or in securities

deposited with the Bank of France as a guaranty for advances. Shares

cannot be issued at a price below par. They are nonassessable. The

surplus may be loaned on mortgages or to municipalities or may be used

in other mortgage business allowed by the statutes; and for buying its

own debentures, making advances to borrowers in arrears, or purchasing

mortgaged property in foreclosure; and for acquiring commercial paper

acceptable by the Bank of France or securities to be deposited with

that bank.

The governor of the Crédit Foncier most be the owner of at least two

hundred shares of stock of the society. He receives a salary of $8,000.

The subgovernors must hold one hundred shares each. Their salaries

are $4,000. They perform such functions as are delegated to them by

the governor, and in order of their nomination fulfill his duties

during his absence on account of illness or other causes. The governor

appoints and dismisses all agents of the society and superintends the

organization of the service in Paris and elsewhere. He countersigns the

debentures and signs the share certificates and all other papers and

documents and must strive to promote the interests of the society in

every way. The governor is the head of the board of directors, which

is composed of himself, the two subgovernors, the auditors, and twenty

to twenty-three directors. This body possesses the administrative

powers of the society and is beholden only to the laws and the general

assembly of the stockholders for the proper exercise of the same. The

three auditors are the guardians of the society. Their duties are to

watch, investigate, and make reports. The only power they have is to

call extraordinary general meetings of the shareholders.

The general assembly of the stockholders meets regularly once a year.

It consists only of the two hundred largest stockholders, of whom forty

make a quorum if they hold one-tenth of the stock of the society. Each

member has one vote for every forty shares of stock held, but cannot

cast more than five votes in his own name, nor more than ten in his own

name or by proxy. He has, however, a right to one vote even though his

shares be less than forty in number. The general assembly receives the

report of the governor, and also of the auditors, if any. It elects the

directors and auditors and decides on all resolutions or proposals for

the increase of capital, the amendment of the by-laws and constitution,

and generally on all matters not otherwise specifically provided for.

The only places outside of France where the Crédit Foncier can do

business are Algiers and Tunis. Under a clause in its charter which

allows it, with the sanction of the Government, to enter into projects

for improving the soil, developing agriculture, and to extinguish

existing debts on real estate, etc., the society has been authorized

to finance drainage projects and to advance money on the paper of

the Sous-Comptoir des Entrepreneurs, an incorporated association of

builders. It may also receive deposits up to $20,000,000, one-fourth of

which must be kept in the Government treasury and the balance invested

in Government paper, treasury bonds, or high-class bankable commercial

notes and securities. In connection with its banking house it has large

deposit vaults.

The Crédit Foncier is permitted to take short-term mortgages and does

a big business in that line. But the true purpose of its existence

and the greatest part of its operations are the granting of long

time loans. These are made on mortgages to individuals and without

mortgage to municipalities and public establishments. The periods run

from ten to seventy-five years. The annuities required to be paid

for amortizing the loan for the average period used are so small as

to appear insignificant. The success achieved by the Crédit Foncier

in popularizing the amortization principle for real estate loans is

the chief cause of its great renown. At present its interest rate for

mortgage loans is 4.3 per cent per annum, for public establishments

4.1 per cent, and 3.85 per cent for municipalities. The total annuity,

including both interest and amortization sum, for a twenty-five year

mortgage loan is a little over 6.5 per cent. With this small annual

payment the debt is gradually wiped out, and nothing is left to be

paid at the end of the term. The longer the term the smaller the

annuity, and vice versa. The loans now exceed $870,000,000. Here is an

amortization table of the Crédit Foncier:

_Annuity of a capital of $100, interest at 4.3 per cent, payable

semiannually._

Duration. Annuities.

5 years $22.440405

10 years 12.409111

15 years 9.115217

20 years 7.504843

25 years 6.566976

30 years 5.964436

35 years 5.552593

40 years 5.259040

45 years 5.043495

50 years 4.881753

55 years 4.758395

60 years 4.663140

65 years 4.588881

70 years 4.530558

75 years 4.484483

The Crédit Foncier is obliged to keep the interest and amortization

payments in separate accounts, the latter going to create a sinking

fund for the retirement of outstanding debentures. As stated above,

the amounts of the loans and debentures must balance each other;

consequently, as loans are paid up debentures must be paid off.

Borrowers have the right to pay in advance, which they frequently

exercise, so the proper adjustment of the balance is beyond the control

of the society. It is for this reason that the debentures, although

calculated to be redeemed synchronously with the loans they represent,

have no fixed time for maturity and are recallable at option. In each

issue a certain number are repayable by lots, with prizes for the

lucky holders. A bond last year drew a prize of $40,000. The right to

give prizes at the lottery drawings is one of the special privileges

of the society. The debentures are of two kinds--those representing

the mortgages are called "foncières" and those representing the loans

to municipalities and public establishments are called "communales."

They are issued in series. The smallest denomination is $20. They may

be bought by installments and are the most popular form of investment

in France, being held largely by farmers and poor people in the

cities. The issue of 1912 for $100,000,000 at 3 per cent, payable

within seventy years, was oversubscribed eighteen times. The total

land mortgages and municipal indebtedness in France is figured at

$2,800,000,000. Nearly one-third of this is represented by the loans of

the society.

Such is the Crédit Foncier of France. The control exercised over it by

the State through the appointment of its head officers, the simplified

foreclosure proceedings, and the other judicial, administrative, and

fiscal privileges accorded to it are common practices in continental

Europe. As mentioned above, all the older banks are specially

privileged, and consequently have a practical monopoly of the

mortgage-bond business in some of the nations.

Now, gentlemen, I have gone into these details not to be slavishly

copied, because I think we would make a very great mistake to load down

our legislation with so much detail. It will be far better to allow

the managers to work out a system of operation that will he suited to

our conditions. In this way we will not be handicapped by red tape

that is ill adapted to our situation. The same penal laws that are

in force with respect to our national banks with any additions that

the peculiarities of this business call for ought, it seems to me, to

suffice.

My suggestion would be a comparatively simple organization with broad

powers to the board of directors. In this way we will soon have an

American system of Land Credit Banks superior to any in the world,

even though we do start after all others have begun. Indeed, if we are

wise, this is the very reason why we should surpass all others.

Now, if you will recall with me the points of change and progress made,

you will find that the tendency is away from unlimited liability, as

originally provided, and now toward a dependence upon capital and

reserves solely for protection to the debenture holders.

In my judgment we should adopt the following as the basis of our Land

Credit Bank:

_First_: We should confine the business to loans upon improved

agricultural lands.

_Second_: We should make the institution strictly coöperative, but with

a limited liability to the amount of the paid-up capital.

_Third_: Every local association, or primary unit, should be an

association of men within a restricted locality and the business should

also be confined to the immediate vicinity of the association.

_Fourth_: I do not believe that the membership of a primary unit should

be less than twenty-five, nor more than fifty.

_Fifth_: I think that the capital of a primary unit should not exceed

$25,000, and that the shares should be $100 each. No person should own

more than two hundred and fifty shares, or 10 per cent of the capital.

_Sixth_: All loans made should be recommended by the local association.

In case of a loss by the sale of property taken over, one-quarter of

such loss should be borne by the primary unit, of local association,

making or recommending the loan upon which the loss was made.

_Seventh_: All expenses connected with the examination and

recommendation of a loan shall be paid by the primary unit, or local

association.

_Eighth_: The application for a loan should then go to a state

organization, which should be created by a union of all the local

associations. I suggest a central organization in each state for the

purpose of lessening the expenses over the entire state, as the laws

affecting real estate in the several states have some peculiarities to

those states.

_Ninth_: Each state organization should have charge of all the business

done in that particular state; the examination and final approval of

the security; the examination and approval of the title; the collection

of all interest; the payment of all taxes and insurance, and the final

repayment of the loan.

_Tenth_: The state organization should be a union of all the local

associations in any particular state, and should hold one-quarter of

the capital of all the local associations as its own for the purpose of

carrying on the business of that state.

_Eleventh_: All property upon which loans are made should be conveyed

absolutely to the state institution where located with a waiver of all

rights of foreclosure; but, providing for the advertisement and sale of

the property, as if a judgment had been rendered. This is essential to

save the cost of foreclosure.

_Twelfth_: In case of a loss, as the result of the sale of any real

estate taken over, one-quarter of it shall be borne by the state

organization.

I make this provision because no local association could carry all

its losses, and yet it should be responsible for a sufficient amount

of loss to impose a serious obligation upon the local association

recommending the loan, and also a serious obligation upon the state

institution for having finally approved and completed the loan.

_Thirteenth_: All the expenses of the state institution incurred by way

of caring for the business of all the local associations should be paid

by a percentage charge on all the business done in the state. This is

desirable so that the mortgages shall go to the national organization,

free and clear from any charges and obligations whatever.

_Fourteenth_: I would have a national organization which should fix the

rate of interest to be paid by the borrowers, and the rate of interest

of all the bonds and debentures sold. All bonds and debentures should

be sold by the national organization, which should be under national

supervision for the purpose of giving to the debentures the highest

possible credit wherever they may be offered for sale.

_Fifteenth_: I think that one-half of all the capital of all the local

associations in the United States should be transferred to the national

organization, and be held and treated by it as if it were its own

capital. And such capital shall be holden to the debenture holders as a

guarantee, and for the purpose of securing the best possible credit for

the national organization.

_Sixteenth_: The national organization, and all state associations, and

all local associations, shall be under the supervision, and be examined

by an auditor appointed by the President of the United States.

_Seventeenth_: To secure unqualified success for a Land Credit Bank

in the United States, no business should be attempted until the

capital paid in shall amount to at least $25,000,000; that is, until

the national organization shall have a cash capital of its own of

$12,500,000 in order that its debentures may bear the lowest possible

rate of interest that a large capital with a national organization

under national supervision will insure.

_Eighteenth_: The debentures of a national organization should be free

of all taxes, local or national.

In general these are my recommendations, which I hope will be

incorporated in the measure we are to prepare.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Farmer, I notice that you propose to confine the

loans to agricultural land. Don't you think that a good and equally

helpful business could be carried on by loaning money on city and urban

property?

MR. FARMER: Possibly that is so, but I do not think so, and in any

event, I never would combine these two classes of loans. If we are

to have national Land Credit Banks doing a country and city or urban

business, let them be kept entirely separate. The general business

permitted and carried on by the Crédit Foncier is a just ground for

severe criticism. It is permitted to take deposits. An American Land

Credit Bank should have no such power. It should be confined, in my

judgment, with extreme strictness to loaning money upon improved

agricultural land. Mind you, I do not say that there should be no other

Land Credit Bank to do some other kind of business. That is a matter

for future and separate consideration.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Mr. Farmer, in all that you have said you have not

once even mentioned Credit Unions or Mutual Credit societies. I had

been betting on you to help me out in my fight for a recognition of the

principle of coöperation, but it looks as if you had deserted me.

MR. FARMER: No, Mr. Laboringman, on the contrary, I will do anything

in my power to help you or anyone work out the great saving principle

of coöperation; but since I have been attending these talks two or

three things have stuck in my crop and I could not get them out even

if I tried, and one thing in particular applies especially to the

agricultural societies, called credit unions.

_Mutual credit societies or credit unions are organized to furnish

capital for production; that is, it is commercial capital, or credit

for commercial purposes, not for investment purposes at all. Not

a single dollar of a credit union should ever be loaned upon real

estate. Not a single dollar! Not a single cent!!_ Such a practice would

literally destroy the principle upon which they are founded; mutual

aid to assist in production, not investment. Don't you remember how

Mr. Banker pounded that into us; and convinced us all, too? But more

convincing than anything else as to this great economic truth, that

not one single dollar of credit union money should ever be loaned

upon land, is the history of them. We must not forget that they were

organized to secure personal credit and to depart from that practice

is a perversion of their purpose and just to that extent must result in

failure.

The coöperative idea for personal credit was originated in Germany by

Francis Frederick Schulze, a little before the middle of the nineteenth

century. It passed over into Austria and Hungary in 1851, into Italy

in 1860, into Belgium in 1864, into France in 1883, into Scotland in

1889, and into Ireland in 1894. These dates are given to show the order

of advance and the recentness of the movement in some parts of Europe.

The first German association was formed in 1849 by Frederick William

Raiffeisen. Herr Schulze did not get his started until the following

year.

Herr Raiffeisen was poorly educated but deeply imbued with religious

feelings. He lived among peasants in a sparsely settled and

impoverished locality, and his object was to help the lowest classes.

The associations which grew up under his guiding hand were mutual

societies confined to small farming districts. The thought of profit

was discarded and they were managed by the gratuitous services of their

members. Herr Schulze was a talented writer and speaker, and when he

took up his life work was holding a judicial post in his native town of

Delitzsche. His philanthropy, although intense, leaned to the practical

side. He believed in paid services and fair returns for money. The

associations formed under his leadership were located mainly in towns.

They were managed by salaried officers, and membership was dependent

upon the purchase of shares on which dividends were allowed. But both

kinds were founded upon the fundamental principle of combining persons

together and using the credit created by their united guaranty for

providing funds for members who might wish to borrow.

In the early days the mutual credit associations were formed simply

by articles of agreement in the nature of a partnership contract,

and members were jointly and severally liable without limit for all

the loans that were made. In course of time, when the Government

began to take official recognition of the associations, some of the

followers of Schulze favored a limit to this liability. Hence the

mark of distinction became clearly defined between "Raiffeisenism"

and the "Schulze-Delitzsche" propaganda. The German law, as it now

stands, requires mutual banks to have share capital, but allows them

to be organized upon the limited or unlimited liability plan. All true

Raiffeisen banks, in order to preserve their character, have shares of

only a nominal value and devote dividends to educational or charitable

purposes. In Germany these local banks are grouped under central banks,

which in turn are linked together by two general central banks, and

their funds are made to move freely for agriculture throughout the

Empire. The centralization of the system has also been inaugurated in

France.

Personal credit in agricultural Europe is obtained usually by means of

the coöperative credit associations. They are also used by artisans

and small tradespeople in the towns and cities. These associations are

in fact the only banks which the farmers will patronize for short-time

loans in the nations where they abound in the greatest numbers. With

their aid poverty and usury have been banished, sterile fields have

been made fertile, production has been increased, and agriculture and

agricultural science raised to the highest point. Their educational

influence is no less marked. They have taught the farmers the uses

of credit as well as of cash, given them a commercial instinct and

business knowledge, and stimulated them to associated action. They have

encouraged thrift and saving, created a feeling of independence and

self-reliance, and even elevated their moral tone.

The picture can hardly be overdrawn. Every traveler who visits the

places where these little associations exist speaks in glowing phrases

of the prosperity and contentment that prevail. They are organized

on such simple lines that their management requires only ordinary

intelligence. Failures have rarely occurred. In France and other

countries they hold a record of having never lost a cent. The working

capital and number of members of individual associations are so small

as to be insignificant, yet they do one-third of the banking business

of Italy; while the combined amount of their operations in Germany

equal that of the commercial banks. But the mutual banks, both in town

and country, are looked upon with favor in the financial world because

they keep millions of dollars of petty sums in circulation which,

except for them, would be idle and hoarded. They are, in fact, feeders

for the commercial banking system.

In 1909 in Belgium 458 banks, with a membership of 25,762, had

outstanding (roughly calculated) $4,000,000 of loans; in France

ninety-six regional banks did upward of $25,000,000 of business on a

capital of $2,983,646, while the 2,983 local banks, with a membership

of 133,382 farmers, had $2,622,241 of capital and a record of over

$20,500,000 of operations. There were nearly 6,000 banks in Austria.

The membership was over 725,666, and the loans ran over $86,500,000.

In Italy 690 banks that furnished reports had a working capital of

over $170,091,946. In Germany there is one bank for every 1,600 of the

population, and the total business done was over $4,888,000,000. In

one Province there is a bank for every 3,000 acres of land; and so on

for all other nations that have coöperative credit institutions. The

rate of interest charged was one or two points lower than in commercial

circles, yet these banks, with a few exceptions, made a fair profit on

the turnover of their capital. In some instances it ran as high as 5

per cent and 7 per cent.

With this striking array of figures to show its stability and

usefulness, it is remarkable that the farmers of the United States

have been so slow to adopt this system of banking for temporary loans

on personal security. It has existed in Canada for twenty-two years.

In the Province of Quebec there are a number of mutual banks that

have loaned hundreds of thousands of dollars. But Massachusetts is

the only State in our country that has made an attempt to encourage

its introduction. It already has a law allowing the incorporation of

credit unions. It was passed in 1909 after a careful study of European

legislation, and furnishes an excellent example for the other States.

The first concern to start under this law was the Myrick Credit Union

at Springfield. In twelve months it had one hundred and five members,

a capital of $3,000 and $10,000 of outstanding loans. Interest rates

have been low, yet it paid over 6 per cent dividends on its capital.

Thirteen new unions were formed in 1911 and have $25,000 of capital. A

pamphlet issued by the State bank commissioner gives a comprehensive

description of the fundamental principles that a mutual association for

personal credit must adhere to. I cannot do better than to quote from

it. They are as follows:

_First_: The association shall be organized on coöperative lines.

As the members may be either borrowers or lenders, according to

circumstances, its affairs must be conducted in such a way as to give

fair and equitable treatment to both classes.

_Second_: The association shall be one of persons and not of shares. To

this end each shareholder has one vote, irrespective of the number of

shares he holds. Furthermore, a limit is set to the number of shares or

the amount of deposit which a member may have in the association, in

order that no one person may have a too dominating influence or be able

to damage the association by suddenly withdrawing large sums.

_Third_: Loans shall be made only for the purposes which promise to

result in a saving or a profit to the borrower. Each applicant for a

loan must state the object for which he desires to borrow, in order

that the credit committee, which passes on all loans, may rigidly

exclude thriftless and improvident borrowing.

_Fourth_: As loans are made only to members and as any member may

become a borrower, care must be taken to admit to membership only men

and women of honesty and industry.

_Fifth_: As personal knowledge of the character of the members is

essential, the membership in an association must be restricted to

citizens of a small community, or of a small subdivision of a large

city, or to a small group or organization of individuals.

_Sixth_: Every provision must be made to bring the association within

the reach of the humblest citizen. The par value of the shares should

be small (it averages about $5), and they should be payable in very

small installments. Loans of very small amounts should be made and

should be repayable by installments if desired.

_Seventh_: In making loans it should be recognized that character and

industry are the basis of credit, and a loan may be made to a member

who has not adequate security to pledge for it, provided he can obtain

the guaranty of one or more other members, but no member is obliged to

guarantee the loan of another member unless he desires to do so.

_Eighth_: Borrowers must carry out to the letter the conditions

of repayment and agreed upon at the time their loans are made.

Prompt payment of obligations is a fundamental requirement of these

associations.

It should not be inferred from the great success and good accomplished

that the coöperative credit associations could be taken as models in

their entirety or that the establishment of such societies would act

as an immediate panacea for all the troubles that beset agriculture

in America. They seem to be adapted only for localities where the

population is fixed and settled and welded together in close relation

by community of interests.

Let me call your attention to what the Government report says in

support of this position. The Germans have had their sad experiences

and it would be the height of folly for us to travel over the same

road again, only to learn by our own experience what we can now know

without paying for it.

Too much emphasis cannot be laid on the fact that these small credit

societies are not organized for making loans on real estate. The

deposits and funds received by them are withdrawable on short notice.

This privilege must be allowed in order to attract the capital

needed. But as loans to members yield interest considerably under the

ordinary market rate, the only way they have of paying for the use

of this capital is by making quick and numerous turnovers with it.

In Germany they have taken long-time mortgages, but the practice is

strongly denounced by all students who have investigated into the cause

of the remarkable success of the Raiffeisen and Schulze-Delitzsche

systems as contrary to the theory on which they are founded. Credit is

indispensable to every business. It is the means whereby $1 is made

to do the work of $50, as the saying goes, but its classifications

and limitations cannot be ignored without danger. A loan to acquire

something merely for consumption is not tolerated, no matter what may

be the security offered. The loan must be strictly for a creative

purpose. This is the first cardinal principle, and so rigorously is it

adhered to in Europe that the credit societies invite to their circle

only those who are producers of wealth.

_Another principle is that personal and real credit are inherently and

irreconcilably separate and distinct, and each must have specially

adapted institutions for carrying on its operations. This is only a

reaffirmation of what we have already decided over and over again._

The recognition and observance of these principles have done much

to prevent thriftless debt among farmers, and are undoubtedly the

reasons why the land credit is so thoroughly organized on the European

Continent. A loan on chattel or character security should naturally

be for a short time and for temporary purposes, for such security is

perishable and subject to loss or change. The long-time loan requires

an unchanging and permanent security, and the only thing possessing

this quality is mother earth herself. But when capital is once sunk

in land it becomes fixed and can never be recovered except from the

income created thereby or the amortization sums paid in representation

of that income. A debtor should not be called upon to pay back the loan

in a lump or in advance of his receipts from the land. To do so leads

only to further borrowing, usually on more burdensome terms, when the

mortgage expires. On the other hand, a private individual cannot be

expected to take his money back in driblets or wait long years for its

complete return. So private lending on real estate is a theoretical

and also a practical wrong. The proof of this lies in vast numbers of

foreclosures and the excessive interest rates of farm mortgages in

western United States, where they are largely held by persons. The

smallness of the annual payments and the length of an ordinary loan in

Europe are shown in the tables of the Crédit Foncier, which have been

given already. A glance at them makes it apparent that amortization,

the basic principle of a land loan, can be brought into full play

only by the aid of large corporations or associations with charters

perpetual or lasting a long time.

MR. BANKER: It does not seem to me, under the circumstances, as though

we could treat the Mutual Credit Associations or Credit Unions wisely.

Indeed, I am of the opinion that legislation by us would interfere with

and retard the progress of such associations.

UNCLE SAM: Mr. Laboringman has waited patiently to have his say about

coöperation.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Yes, I have been biding my time, for I have something

to say that ought to interest all of you, as a possibility at least,

and if it is reasonable to do so, I hope that you will include some

sympathetic laws by way of encouragement.

England was the birthplace of modern industrialism, as you all know.

There, too, was started the great movement of modern coöperation.

Small and insignificant was the beginning. In 1844 the Rochdale

pioneers put all their little savings into the pot, and they amounted

to only $140. With this they started a store. By 1845 they had

seventy-four members and $900 of capital, and did $3,500 worth of

business, by keeping their little business open only two evenings a

week. They were an object of derision and all sorts of jibes.

S.P. Orth describes the situation as follows: Last year the British

Government made a careful and complete report on coöperation in

England, and found more than three million persons in the membership

of the various societies, and over three times that number under the

immediate sphere of coöperative influence. That means that one person

in every five in the United Kingdom is now interested or influenced by

this vast association of producers and consumers. During the past ten

years, the increase of membership has been 55 per cent and the trade 75

per cent.

The productive and distributive business alone amounts to $640,000,000.

The retail societies have $200,000,000 of capital. "Last year the sales

of these retail societies totaled more than $352,000,000, or about

$142.50 per member." It is most significant that the societies, in

their own mills and factories, produced nearly 50 per cent of these

goods themselves; that is, production and distribution are going hand

in hand. They began by making boots and butter; now they make cloth,

iron and all sorts of things.

The average profits for the last ten years have been nearly 15 per cent

and there is now a serious discussion whether the cost of articles to

the customer should not be lowered.

In some of the districts, notably some of the mining districts, the

coöperative stores have a virtual monopoly, and their system of banking

or keeping the surplus credits for the customer is a great boon. But

in other very poor districts, keeping up the prices has worked some

hardship. It is now proposed by some of the stronger societies to open

special stores in the poorer districts and cut the prices.

All business, until a few years ago, was done on a strictly cash basis,

but recently the insidious credit system has crept in, and it may lead

to serious consequences.

Last year, out of its surplus, the Union of Coöperative Societies, a

federation of all English coöperativists, voted $230,000 to charity,

$450,000 to education, i.e., libraries, lectures, and concerts, and

$50,000 to propaganda.

The early retail societies found it hard to get good terms from

wholesale houses, owing to the enmity of the private merchants. The

law did not allow them to amalgamate and start a wholesale business of

their own. But in 1862 the law was changed, and at once two coöperative

wholesale societies were organized, the English and the Scotch. They

are the models for the world. The two societies are virtually one,

although maintaining different officers, rules, and stockholders. In

fact, the wholesale societies are the federation of the retail and

productive societies of England and Scotland. The English society

requires the constituent societies to hold one $25 share for every five

of its membership; the Scotch society one $5 share for every one of

its members: i. e., an English coöperative shoe factory of two hundred

members wishing to join the English Wholesale Society would take forty

$25 shares, or two hundred $5 shares in the Scotch Society.

These Wholesale Societies are the grand Clearing House of nearly all

the coöperative shops and factories of the kingdom, and the suppliers

of all the coöperative retail stores.

And they are monumental institutions. In 1907 they had a membership of

more than 2,615,000, a capital of more than $169,000,000, a surplus of

$85,000,000. Their annual sales amount to more than $600,000,000, and

their profits more than $60,000,000.

The English Society is the larger. It is a corporation that not only

engages in wholesale trade but is a manufacturer, banker, importer;

it packs meat, cures bacon, refines lard, binds books, grows tea,

blends coffee, founders iron; it manufactures flour, butter, biscuit,

sugar, pickles, cocoa, tobacco, candles, glycerine, starch, saddlery,

furniture, clothing, corsets, underwear, brushes, crockery, tinplate,

woolens, carpets and almost everything else that an average British

home may need. It deals in coal, apricots, and wheat; has offices

in New York, Toronto, Rouen, France; Denia, Spain; Copenhagen and

Guthenberg, Sweden; has twenty-seven creameries in Ireland, tallow

and oil works in Sydney, Australia; a "bacon factory" in Denmark, a

tea plantation in Ceylon, and fruit farms in Shropshire and Hereford.

Besides, it owns four steamers for the trade between Rouen and

Manchester.

Its main offices on Balloon Street, Manchester, are enormous and

palatial. Together with warehouses and stores, they cover a number

of city blocks. Their offices in London compare favorably with any

private establishment, and for efficiency they are second to none.

Nearly 20,000 men are employed by this society. Some of its factories

are large, e, g., the Leicester Shoe Works employ 1,446 men; the Irlam

Soap Works, 702 men; Long Sight Printing Works, 941 men; the Middleton

Pickle Works, 564, etc.

The chief offices of the Scotch Society are on Morrison Street,

Glasgow. They manufacture umbrellas, tweeds, paislies, oatmeal,

Aberdeen finnan-haddie, and other characteristic Scotch merchandise.

Its capital is about $17,000,000.

Germany and Belgium, too, are furnishing successful coöperative

associations. Mr. Orth describes them so well that I want to read what

he says.

There are about two thousand of the coöperative supply societies among

the farmers, with nearly one hundred and fifty thousand members. There

are also about three thousand coöperative dairies, with two hundred

and thirty thousand members, and one hundred and sixty coöperative

wine cellars and two hundred and fifty-five coöperative warehouses and

grain elevators.

It was natural that retail stores should be established next, on a

coöperative basis. For some reason they did not thrive until about ten

years ago. At that time a split occurred in the coöperative ranks, due

to politics, and two federations or unions of Coöperative Societies

were organized; the General Union or Liberal Union, and the Central

Union or Socialist Union. The former is remaining stationary, the

latter growing by leaps and bounds.

In every large city the coöperative retail society has a central plant.

It usually includes a warehouse and bakery. The one located at Berlin

is a good type. It is situated at Lichtenberg, a suburb. Here you see

splendid buildings, in good architectural style, fitted up in the most

modern manner; telephones to all departments, electricity, central

heating plant, a uniform clock system for keeping time, etc. The whole

plant cost $1,750,000. The great warehouse is full of groceries.

Although only a year in the buildings, they are already overtaxed and

additions are planned. This central supply house looks after the sixty

coöperative grocery stores in Berlin. It has a string of fine delivery

autos. Any one can become a member by paying fifty pfennigs (12-1/2c.)

admission, and forty marks ($10) a year. This, however, is taken out of

his dividends.

The society also owns a fine row of apartment houses, which are leased

to members at a low rental. The goods used are bought in the open

market, or are supplied by the German Coöperative Wholesale Society of

Hamburg. There is very little productive coöperation in Germany. There

are 2,311 retail societies, more than two million members, and more

than $5,000,000 in their reserve fund.

The Wholesale Society had a hard time of it until the spurt in favor of

coöperation began a decade ago. Now it thrives, doing about $12,000,000

business a year.

There are a great many local coöperative building societies, with two

hundred thousand members, and many other evidences that the spirit of

coöperation is abroad in the land. In 1908 there were 4,105,594 persons

actively interested in one form or another of German coöperation. In

1911 the number had increased to nearly five million.

In the little land of Belgium coöperation is at its best; not at

its greatest showiness, nor maximum figures. But here, in this land

of congested population, of illiteracy, of low wages and depressing

conditions, the abject workingmen have taken hold of their own

problems, asking neither sympathy nor favor, and have worked out a

scheme of industrial coöperation that is a genuine achievement.

In 1873 bread was very dear in Ghent. Times were very hard. So high was

the price of flour that many workingmen went hungry. A few of these

workers united to do what they could to supply loaves at cheaper rates.

They had $17 capital. They found an old cellar with an old oven in it,

hired an old baker, and peddled the bread in baskets. Today there is

a fine workingmen's clubhouse in Ghent, called "Vooruit." Across the

façade stands the motto, "The Brotherhood of Workingmen Means Peace on

Earth." This is the outgrowth of the cellar bakeshop. "Vooruit" stands

for everything that is superb in coöperation. Here is not only a large

lecture hall and café and offices of the unions; here is the studio of

Van Biesbroeck, the workman-sculptor; here is a library, and in the

neighborhood are stores, ware-rooms and shops. A few years ago it was

found that many women were ruining their health by the long hours of

service at the looms. "Vooruit" started a coöperative weaving shed,

where the women work eight and three-quarter hours a day.

The bakery now does almost $1,000,000 worth of business a year; it

makes 110,000 loaves a week. The eight thousand members of "Vooruit"

have six drug stores, coal yards, many grocery stores and meat shops,

a dry goods store, and other industries. All done by workmen in thirty

years, workmen who were never highly paid and who trained themselves to

do these things.

They meet every year, the eight thousand members, and vote on the price

of bread. Sometimes it is one cent higher than the commercial rate, but

their dividends more than cover this.

In Brussels is the famous "Maison du Peuple," the House of the People.

It, too, began with a small bakery, employing two men and turning out

five hundred and fifty-two loaves the first week. Today the "Maison"

has twenty-five thousand members, two great bakeries, six warehouses,

four butcher shops, twenty-five grocery stores, and numerous shops

where various articles are made.

This "House," standing on Rue Joseph Stephen, cost $375,000 and was

paid for by the Brussels workingmen out of their coöperative funds.

The café, seating eight hundred people, is an animated place; every

one seems content. The office of the savings bank is doing a rushing

business, women and children bringing in the savings of the family for

the week; the committee rooms are full of workmen planning some new

enterprise. In the evening the lecture hall or theatre is crowded, the

two thousand five hundred seats all taken, to see a play produced by an

amateur company, all members of the "Maison."

All this, and more, in the form of coöperation. In 1907-8 the "Maison"

made a profit of $134,000; of this about three-quarters was distributed

as personal dividends to shareholders. The rest was spent on social

benefits and a reserve fund.

In Belgium, then, you find all the coöperative activities united in

each city under one general management. It includes groceries and

clothing, medical aid, insurance, savings bank, clubhouse privileges,

lectures, libraries, entertainments.

There are one hundred, and sixty-one distributive societies with

119,581 members; sixteen productive societies with 1,583 members. The

Productive Societies include weaving, printing, cabinetmaking, tobacco

and cigars, hardware and bakery. The total coöperative business is

$6,800,000 a year, a large amount when you consider the diminutive size

of the country and the poverty of the people.

The fact that in all of these countries coöperation is growing at a

rate of increase of 20 per cent to 40 per cent proves that a need for

it exists.

Now, Uncle Sam, we are starting these coöperative stores here, and

the question with us and the one we are constantly asking, is what

protection are we going to have from the trusts and monopolies which

can, if permitted to do so, destroy us with low prices at any point,

while they rob the people at some other point, to make up the losses,

while ruining us. What we must have is legislation, to protect us, and

if we can get it into this bill, I want it.

UNCLE SAM: I do not see how any phase of what you have said can be

governed by a financial and banking bill. It is true, that incidentally

you may do a banking business in your coöperative societies. So far

as you do, you ought to conform your practices with whatever we may

decide upon in the way of banking laws. So far as you buy and sell,

or manufacture, you are engaged in production and commerce, and not

in the banking business. Under the circumstances, you are entitled to

an answer, although a little aside from the subject in hand. Let me

tell you, however, right here, and you may set it down as settled.

That, if you start any coöperative associations for the production or

distribution of goods of any kind, you shall have a square deal. I have

been waiting patiently, but getting ready all the while, to put some of

the managers of these monopolies in jail. You can take my word for it.

You are going to have equal opportunities under the operation of just

laws, if there is any way of giving them to you. And if your Uncle

Samuel understands the situation, I think there is. Unfair chances,

special privileges and monopolies cannot naturally and properly have

any place in a country where all men are born free and equal under the

law. The fact is, the law is sufficient now, but there is not a public

sentiment strong enough to compel the courts to put men in jail for

robbing their fellows through the forms of law; even if it is known

that the laws by which they rob their fellows or are permitted or

enabled to rob their fellows were passed expressly for that purpose.

That is the fault of the times through which we have just passed. The

time is now at hand when all this is to be reversed. The people have

come to realize and appreciate the fact that it is ethically, morally,

and justly speaking, as wrong to rob a man through the forms of law,

as for the bully to fell a man in the streets and pick his pockets.

The people are forming new ideals, and the judges are getting new

ideas. These new ideals, and these new ideas, will soon handcuff and

incarcerate the business culprits, the business bullies, just as the

ancient ideals of the people, and the old ideas of the judges have, in

the past, put the physical bully and the material thief in the dark,

dank dungeon. I have altogether too many men, who are always inquiring

how near they can go to the jail door and not get in. You mark my word,

I am going to push some of them in very soon now. What I want is a

nation of men who are imbued with a sense of justice and fair play in

business; and who will regard business relations as moral obligations,

and paramount to the technical letter of the law. When that day comes,

one banker will not want his fellow-bankers to carry his reserves for

him. The principle is the same, whatever the relation of men may be;

therefore, you can take my word for it, that all those who want to

coöperate to secure a greater degree of the profits of their labor, a

greater degree of justice among their fellows, will find Uncle Samuel

coöperating with them, in the preparation and execution of those laws

which will make for a juster Government. Since this Government springs

from the people, and belongs to the people, no part of the people,

certainly no small part of the people, should be able to take unfair

advantages and undue profits, by any legalized special privileges, or

by the power of monopoly. I say to you now, that these should be, and

will be destroyed, and that all men shall be equal before and under the

law. This is the predestined purpose of this Government, and it will

never come into its fulfillment until you learn, my boys, that you are

your brother's keepers.

MR. MERCHANT: Uncle Sam, that's pretty good preaching; but how are you

going to apply it to this banking question?

UNCLE SAM: Did not Mr. Laboringman just appeal to me to find out

whether coöperative societies were going to have a fair show? I have

just told him "Yes," and I intend they shall have it, and I know of

no better place to begin than here and now. I am going to construct

two or three pieces of machinery--a guillotine for the monopolies,

and an electric chair for special privileges, and concoct a barrel of

anesthetics for stealthy, statutory stealing.

MR. LAWYER: But all this kind of legislation must come under the sphere

of the Sherman Anti-Trust Law. I think no one will contend that any

aspect of coöperation, as represented by Mr. Laboringman, should be

incorporated in our banking bill.

MR. BANKER: I agree with both Mr. Farmer and Mr. Lawyer, that we

cannot make any provision for it at this stage of its development

in this country; but who shall prophesy about a movement that has

spread over the world, as this has, and is now growing at such a rapid

rate? It is estimated that at least ten million in Great Britain are

interested in it; more than five million in Germany, and that the

outstanding coöperative investments in Continental Europe must exceed

$5,000,000,000 by this time. Of course, these figures mean some

banking sooner or later, in this country, when the movement once gets

under way.

MR. FARMER: Yes, I agree to that, but any attempt on our part at this

time to legislate in advance, would do more harm than good.

MR. LABORINGMAN: That is probably true, as it might interfere, as you

say, with the movement. All I ask then, is that we have a fair field,

so that we can develop along natural lines, and be protected in the

exercise of our mutual coöperative rights. I thank you, gentlemen, for

giving me, and my particular cause, so much of your time.

UNCLE SAM: Mr. Laboringman, your cause is their cause. Your cause is my

cause. Your cause is our cause. Your cause is the cause of humanity.

The principles upon which your cause rests, pushed to their logical

conclusion, will secure social and industrial justice. There are

many who have taken millions, yes, hundreds of millions, through the

forms of law, but without any ethical right whatever. From them these

millions will be taken away in time, through the forms of law; through

the power of taxation by progressive income and inheritance taxes, and

the injustice of today will be righted by the justice of tomorrow.

MR. BANKER: Uncle Sam, you have suggested a programme outside of

banking legislation; but I must confess incidental to the cause

presented by Mr. Laboringman.

MR. FARMER: Gentlemen, we have stayed longer tonight than on any

previous night, and I must go now. So, good night.

UNCLE SAM: Mr. Farmer has forced an adjournment.

THIRTEENTH NIGHT

THE CLEARING HOUSE

UNCLE SAM: We are on the very last lap tonight, as I understand

the situation. We have had the Standard of Value, Money, Currency,

Exchange, Value, Price, Property, Wealth, Credit, Reserves, the Bank;

and now comes the settlement of the claims against the bank in the

shape of checks, drafts and bills of exchange.

When we finish this conversation we can, I hope, begin to put things

together, that is, make use of our material.

MR. BANKER: Uncle Sam is right, we shall be ready to do some

constructing when we have disposed of the Clearing House, which is

destined to play a gigantic part in the future of American banking.

This is true because the Clearing House is bound to become the

machinery by which all American banks are to coöperate and protect

themselves through their combined strength; and it will be a splendid

exhibition of what true coöperation can accomplish.

The character and origin then of the Clearing House, its present

and prospective function, must be carefully studied by us, if this

assumption is correct.

MR. MERCHANT: The character of the Clearing House, or the principle

upon which it works, is simple enough; although its operations are

vast, and its achievements in times of financial stress have been most

striking, even though not always satisfactory.

The principle of clearing is, as I have just said, simple indeed. If

I have a claim against Mr. Manufacturer, and he has an equal claim

against me, we clear them by exchanging our claims with each other. If

one of you gentlemen should sue another for one hundred dollars, and

the other should make a defense by pleading an offset of one hundred

dollars, and the court should allow both claims, you would clear them

through the court, the one offsetting the other; that is all there is

of the principal involved.

MR. BANKER: Mr. Merchant, you have put this matter more simply than any

book has ever done. Indeed, I had not reduced the transaction to such

simple terms. To put it in the form of a definition, as you stated, it

would read this way: "To offset one claim against another, and pay the

balance, if any, is clearing them."

I had thought that it would be my particular task to explain this

transaction of clearing, and after a good deal of meditation I

had worked out a thought which I am sure is next best, after your

definition; and it will take us one step nearer to the Clearing House,

without getting into any of its complexities. My illustration is this:

if there were but one bank in a town, and all the people did their

business through this single bank, by depositing their money and

checks, and then paid all their bills, with checks on the bank, apart

from any outside business, every debt in the town would be paid by

check, and there would be no need of any money at all as the claims and

debts would be exactly equal, and would always cancel each other to a

cent.

MR. LAWYER: What you have said about one bank in a town is equally true

of two, three or four, or any number of banks, if you assume that every

person in town does his entire business through the banks, providing,

of course, that the banks get together, and offset all the checks and

drafts they receive during the day. There might be something to pay

from day to day for the time being, but all would be adjusted in the

end, without any variation or difference.

MR. BANKER: Precisely so, but when you get those bankers together, for

the purpose of trading checks, you have created a Clearing House.

Stephen Colwell says: "Clearing is beyond all question, the simplest,

the most economical, and when applicable, the most efficient of all

modes of paying debts; it is precisely analogous to balancing accounts."

James G. Cannon, author of the leading work upon the history of

American Clearing Houses, describes a Clearing House "as an office,

established by the banks of a city, where their representatives meet

daily to exchange drafts and checks, and adjust balances." Again, "as a

device to simplify and facilitate the daily exchanges of items, checks,

drafts and bills of exchange, and the settlement of balances among the

banks, and a medium for muted action upon all questions affecting their

mutual welfare."

You would think that the Clearing House was such a simple matter, and

such a great advantage that a Clearing House would have been thought

of, and put into operation as soon as banks got under way, but not so.

Their development and establishment, as we know them today, has been

slow indeed, and the early history of their origin most interesting.

Jevons says: "About the year 1775, a few of the London bankers hired

a room where their clerks could meet to exchange notes and bills, and

settle their mutual debts. The society was of the nature of a strictly

private club; the public knowing nothing about it, and the transactions

being conducted in perfect secrecy. Mr. Gilbart tells us that even in

this form it was regarded as a questionable innovation, and some of the

principal bankers refused to have anything to do with it. By degrees,

however, the convenience of the arrangement made itself apparent, more

bankers were admitted to the Society, and a distinct committee and

set of rules were formed for its management. Although it remains to

the present day a private and voluntary association, unchartered, and

in fact unknown to the law, the Clearing House has steadily grown in

importance, and in the publicity of its proceedings.

"Several important extensions of the clearing work have been made in

the last twenty-five years. After the rise of the London joint stock

banks, subsequent to 1833, they were for a long time refused admittance

to the Clearing House; but in June, 1854, they were at last allowed

to join the Association. The Bank of England long remained entirely

outside of the confederation, but more recently, it has become a

member." (Written in 1875.)

The establishment of Clearing Houses in English cities, outside of

London, did not take place until a century, almost, after that in

London went into operation, or as late as 1872, which was just five

years short of a century later.

As early as 1831 Albert Gallatin presented a plan for a Clearing House

in New York, and so perfectly outlined the scheme, finally adopted,

that I want to read it to you. And I want to impress upon you the fact

that Gallatin was one of the very ablest economists that we have ever

produced.

"There is a measure which though belonging to the administration of

banks, rather than to legal enactment, is suggested on account of its

great importance. Few regulations would be more useful in preventing

dangerous expansion of discounts and issues on the part of the city

banks, than a regular exchange of notes and checks, and an actual

daily or semi-weekly payment of the balances. It must be recollected

that it is by this process alone that a bank of the United States has

ever acted or been supposed to act as a regulator of the currency. Its

action would not in that respect be wanted in any city, the banks of

which would, by adopting the process, regulate themselves. It is one

of the principal ingredients of the system of the banks of Scotland.

The bankers of London, by the daily exchange of drafts at the Clearing

House, reduce the ultimate balance to a very small sum; and that

balance is immediately paid in notes of the Bank of England. The

want of a similar arrangement among the banks of this city produces

relaxation, favors improper expansion, and is attended with serious

inconvenience. The principal difficulty in the way of an arrangement

for that purpose is the want of a common medium other than specie for

effecting the payment of balances. Those are daily fluctuating; and a

perpetual drawing and redrawing of specie from and into the banks is

unpopular and inconvenient.

"In order to remedy this it has been suggested that a general cash

office might be established, in which each bank should place a sum in

specie, proportionate to its capital, which would be carried to its

credit in the books of the office. Each bank would be daily debited,

or credited, in those books for the balance of its account with all

the other banks. Each bank might, at any time, draw for specie on the

office for the excess of its credit, beyond its quota; and each bank

should be obliged to replenish its quota whenever it was diminished one

half, or in any other proportion agreed on. It may be that some similar

arrangement might be made in every other county, or larger convenient

district of the State. It would not be necessary to establish then a

general cash office. Each of the banks of Scotland has an agent at

Edinburgh, and the balances are there settled twice a week, and paid

generally by drafts on London. In the same manner the balances due by

the banks in each district might be paid by draft on New York, or any

other place agreed on."

James C. Hallock, the highest authority in this country upon Clearing

House operations, has so succinctly stated how the checks were disposed

of, before the Clearing House was established, that I am going to read

that to you, and show you two diagrams, which we will keep on file for

future reference. "In 1853, the Banks of New York City organized a

Clearing House, the first in America; until then they had done business

without one. The method had been laborious.

"Each of the fifty-two banks had daily received over its counter, or by

mail, checks on every other bank in town. To collect them the banks had

opened deposit accounts with one another. Each had become a depositor

in fifty-one city banks. Each also had had the others as depositors and

kept fifty-one accounts with them. The pass books used had been of the

ordinary form as 'Merchants' Bank, in account with Chatham Bank.'

"According to the common usage of depositors, each bank would have sent

messengers to fifty-one banks daily, and each would have had fifty-one

messengers come to its own counter from the other banks. They had

done a little better than that. The Chatham Bank, for instance, would

have checks on the Merchants' Bank. It would list them on a deposit

slip, charge the Merchants' Bank with the amount in its pass book, and

place the checks in the book which the messenger would now carry to

the Merchants' Bank, and deliver to its Receiving Teller. The latter

would remove the checks, and having some on the Chatham Bank with

list attached, he would credit his bank with the amount in the pass

book, place the package in it and hand it back, thus refilled to the

messenger.

"This exchange of checks by two banks at the counter of one was a

rudimentary clearing which, like all bank clearings, saved labor, time

and trouble. To deposit these checks in the customary manner would

have required two messengers and two pass books. By this clearing

arrangement one messenger and one pass book sufficed. Perceiving the

sensibleness of this saving, the New York banks had for many years

tacitly agreed that each should send messengers to one-half of the

banks for six months, and the other half for the next six months. They

had thus reduced the number of banks to be visited daily by each from

fifty-one to twenty-six banks, and accordingly reduced the number of

pass books in use by each.

"The accompanying diagram representing the banks arranged in a circle,

with two of them sending messages to twenty-six each, indicates how

toilsome the exchange of checks still was, up to the formation of the

New York Clearing House, which commenced operations on Oct. 11, 1853;

though only two banks are represented as sending, in fact, all were

really sending, or being sent to; for every bank sent to all others

that did not send to it.

[Illustration: Without a Clearing House in New York.

_Diagram showing a Bank Messenger's 26 Trips to Exchange Checks with

other Banks._]

"When two banks exchanged checks the amounts were almost always

unequal, leaving a balance for one to pay and the other to receive.

Every day every bank, if they had settled daily, would have had

fifty-one balances to pay, or receive. They were payable in coin.

Instead of attempting the daily adjustment of accounts, which would

have consumed hours, and caused much annoyance, it had become a tacit

agreement that a weekly settlement of balances should be made after

the exchange of Friday morning. On settlement day, the cashier of

each bank would draw checks for every debt due to him by other banks,

and send out the messengers to collect them. Over fifty porters were

out all at once, wrote a bank officer of the time, with an aggregate

of several hundred bank drafts in their pockets, balking each other,

drawing specie at some places, and depositing it in others, and the

whole process was one of confusion, disputes and unavoidable blunders

of which no description could give an exact impression.

"The second diagram, representing the fifty-two banks in a circle

around the Clearing House, indicates how completely all this

misdirection and waste of energy stopped upon the installation of that

marvelous method which affects such amazing economy. Every bank now

sends straight to a common point. Every bank sends there all the checks

it has on all the city banks, and charges the whole amount against an

imaginary debtor--the Clearing House. Every bank receives there all the

checks all the other city banks have on it, and admits its indebtedness

for the whole amount to an imaginary creditor--the Clearing House. The

balance can now be struck. If the bank loses, it pays the Clearing

House the difference. If the bank gains, the Clearing House pays the

bank; and there is the end of it, reached by the shortest path with the

greatest ease and quickness.

"The principal results may be summarized:

"The Clearing House saved every bank in New York City on the average

twenty-six trips daily to exchange checks with other banks. It

abolished sending to other banks for this purpose. It substituted one

trip to the Clearing House--an economy of 96-1/2 per cent.

"The Clearing House saved every bank in New York the payment or

receipt, mostly in coin, of fifty balances on settlement day (Friday).

It abolished settling at the counter of banks, except for checks,

sent through the clearing and returned 'not good.' It substituted one

payment, or receipt, of a net balance to or from the Clearing House, an

economy of 98 per cent.

[Illustration: With a Clearing House in New York.

_Diagram showing Single Trips to Exchange Checks with all other Banks

in the City._]

"The Clearing House saved the banks of New York all the drudgery,

irritation and anxiety which had made daily settlements impracticable.

It abolished the weekly settlement; it substituted daily settlements to

the Clearing House--an economy of considerable importance.

"The Clearing House saved all the banks of New York the trouble of

keeping accounts with one another. It abolished accounts of city banks

with city banks--closed 2,652 accounts. It substituted one account for

each bank with the Clearing House--an economy of 98 per cent.

"These savings, not to mention others, proved beyond dispute, that

clearing checks economizes."

It was twenty-two years before Gallatin's suggestion was adopted,

and a Clearing House was established, which, as stated, was in 1853.

The first clearing was effected on Oct. 11, 1853, and amounted to

$22,648,109.87. The balances amounted to $1,290,522.28.

Boston followed in the footsteps of New York, and established a

Clearing House in 1856, and Philadelphia in 1858.

The next step in the line of progress, in the matter of bank clearings,

came, as Hallock says, as a result of cheap postage and the railroads

in England, and included country checks.

He says: "Somewhat less than half a century ago London recognized the

fact that the out-of-town check was an indispensable instrument of

civilized man, at least in Great Britain. He would use it, contrary to

custom, and despite the remonstrances of city bankers, who thought only

London drafts should be sent to London.

"A product of modern times and method, country checks came to London

with the railroads. Few at first, when the average postage on a letter

consisting of a single sheet, was nine pence, and another sheet, or

any enclosure, however small, doubled the rate, making the postage

on a letter enclosing a check thirty-six cents, on the average. With

penny postage established in 1840, regulating the rate on a letter by

its weight (one penny per half ounce), without regard to the number of

sheets, or enclosures, country checks began to stream into London.

"In 1858 the city bankers, perceiving their inability to suppress, or

exclude them, decided to adopt the suggestion of some country bankers,

and collect English and Welsh checks through the Clearing House.

"The idea originated in the spring of 1858 with a young country banker,

William Gillett, the son and grandson of country bankers. He visited

the provincial banks, and interested them in the project. When prepared

to carry it out the country bankers met in London on Sept. 29th of that

year, and communicated the plan to the London clearing banks to obtain

their support. The Londoners opposed it; they suggested doubt as to the

utility and feasibility of any change in existing systems. However,

their coöperation being solicited, the London bankers held a meeting at

the Clearing House on Oct. 12th, to take the matter into consideration,

and appointed a special committee to confer with the country bankers.

"Then, on reflection, it appeared to another young man, the son and

grandson of clearing bankers, that the organization of a large and

entirely new establishment, which the country bankers proposed, was

unnecessary, as the London bankers could give them all the facilities

they required, without any great additional labor, or expense. This

junior officer in the private bank of which his father was the head,

has since gained world-wide celebrity in science and literature as Sir

John Lubbock (now Lord Avebury). Even with the aid of such talent and

opportunities as his, it required unflinching resolution to establish

country clearing in London. After devising a method that conformed as

closely as practicable to actual usage in clearing city banks, young

Lubbock had to call at every London bank, at most of them several

times, and explain fully the exact manner in which he proposed to

carry out the system. It was very difficult for him to convince his

brother bankers. Finally the special committee requested him to meet

the principal clerks of the different banks. These clerks unanimously

recommended the adoption of his plan.

"The London bankers then adopted it, and on Nov. 16th submitted it

to their country correspondents. The plan for an independent country

Clearing House was abandoned by the country Bankers' Committee on Nov.

19th, and the clearing of country checks commenced in London on Nov.

23, 1858. In less than eight weeks, after the idea was broached in

London, it was put in practice there."

This system covers 60,000 square miles.

Mr. Hallock says, "Sedalia bankers unconsciously imitated the

London plan, but modified it, as had been done abroad elsewhere;

for out-of-town checks are cleared, not only in London, but also

in other English cities, as Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham,

Newcastle-on-Tyne, Leeds, Sheffield and Bradford, in some eight Scotch

towns and Dublin."

The next advance, which is undoubtedly destined to revolutionize

clearing in the United States, was started in Boston in 1899 by making

New England a free check zone.

Hallock says: "The clearing of out-of-town checks, though opposed for

years by a small minority of Boston banks, was successfully established

at Boston in 1899. The system includes checks on all points in New

England, and maintains a free zone of nearly equal extent.

"Proposed in 1877 and 1883, the Boston movement at first resulted in

a deadlock, based on the supposed importance of having certain city

banks, who declined to come in, participate. After twenty-two years

through another movement started among the Connecticut banks, the

deadlock was broken by substituting the manager of the Boston Clearing

House for any abstaining members, and giving him checks on their

correspondents to collect. The association finally decided that all

checks passed through the out-of-town clearing should be collected by

him.

"The only opposition exhibited by country banks has been in the refusal

of a few to pay the Clearing House in full for their checks, deducting

so-called exchange. Boston checks passed through the Clearing House

are paid in full, or not at all. New England checks should be. This

can be effected, either as in London, by Boston banks returning

checks, drawn on such banks, as not collectible through the Boston

Clearing House, or by the manager, charging to collect checks, bearing

indorsement of the non-par banks, which would cut them off from the use

of the New England free list, now enjoyed by them, without reciprocity;

that is, without being themselves on the free list."

Mr. Charles A. Ruggles, manager of the Boston Clearing House, says: "In

the thirteen years that we have made collections in this way, we have

collected over eight thousand million dollars ($8,000,000,000).

"Our cost now is, and has been for ten years, seven cents for a

thousand dollars. That includes the clerk hire of fifteen men, postage

and stationery, and we collect seven or eight hundred million dollars

a year; furthermore, 90 per cent of the banks in New England remit at

par. We collect 95 per cent of it in twenty-eight hours."

It is an interesting and important historical fact that the country

banks of England and Wales forced the clearing of country checks at

London; so, too, the banks of Connecticut, thirty of them in number,

by combining under the advice and leadership of Mr. James C. Hallock,

succeeded in having the plan adopted by the Boston Clearing House. As

a result New England became a free check zone. I think we should note

in this connection that the father of Mr. James C. Hallock was the

organizer, if not, indeed, the originator of the New York Clearing

House in 1853.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Mr. Lawyer, you talk and talk and talk, when you could

say what you really have to say, in one-tenth of the time, and in about

as many words. We have spent a whole hour in the history of the origin

of the Clearing House, and have just learned what I could repeat in

about two minutes.

_First_: London, in a kind of a sneaking way, began to clear checks

in 1775, and kept a Clearing House in a blind alley. Nothing more was

done in England by way of advance until 1858, when the country banks

of England and Wales, covering a territory of 60,000 square miles, by

threatening to start their own Clearing House in London, compelled the

London banks to clear their checks. Not till 1872, nearly one hundred

years later, did any other city adopt it. But today many cities in

Great Britain are clearing country checks.

_Second_: Gallatin proposed a Clearing House for New York in 1831.

Hallock established it in 1853. Boston and Philadelphia followed in

three and five years, respectively. In 1899, New England became a free

check zone, all checks being received at par at Boston. Since then

several other cities have followed suit. Atlanta, Macon, Nashville,

Sedalia and Kansas City. Now, I have said everything you said. Next!

UNCLE SAM: Mr. Laboringman always gets a "B" line on things.

MR. LAWYER: That is true in substance, but the very fact that Mr.

Laboringman has stated the case so well is the greatest compliment he

could pay us. It is only by iteration and reiteration, word upon word,

and precept upon precept, that has made this whole subject so plain to

all of us. We have made haste by going slowly, and we don't want to get

into a hurry now.

MR. BANKER: I agree with you, Mr. Lawyer, patience has been our best

and truest friend in all these talks, and we should not desert her now.

MR. LABORINGMAN: That's all right, but let us get down, right down to

business. Just where are we at now? And where are we going to in the

Clearing House matter?

MR. BANKER: We are now going to discuss the Clearing House from five

points of view.

_First_: The Clearing House, from its original standpoint--New York

was the pioneer, and is probably our highest type. Its clearings are

certainly by far the largest in the world.

_Second_: The clearing of country checks, of which Boston was the

pioneer in a large way, although preceded in point of time by Sedalia,

Mo., a country city of only 15,231 people in 1900.

_Third_: The examination of all banks clearing through the Clearing

House, of which Chicago was the pioneer, starting June 1, 1906--and

probably the best type, although there are today about twenty cities

following in her footsteps, including the following: Minneapolis, Feb.

1, 1907; St. Paul, May 1, 1908; St. Louis, Oct. 11, 1907; Los Angeles

and San Francisco following upon the heels of St. Louis; Kansas City,

March 1, 1908; St. Joseph, the early part of 1909; Philadelphia, April

5, 1909; New York, 1912, with others, not mentioned, making twenty in

all.

_Fourth_: The centralization of the reserves of the banks at the

Clearing Houses, as a matter of convenience in settling balances, and

carrying on their common business generally, but subsequently for the

purpose of facilitating the issuance of Clearing House certificates.

MR. LAWYER: Let me repeat to you, gentlemen, what may have been stated

before, that there is no law providing for the existence of the London

Clearing House, nor is there a single law in a single state in any way

authorizing or affecting a single Clearing House in the United States.

Therefore, all that they have done has been without any authority of

law. They are a law unto themselves; and it is not at all certain that

that has not been wise. Indeed, I am of the opinion that it has been

most fortunate for the business interests of the country. What do you

think, Mr. Banker?

MR. BANKER: I am of the same opinion; in confirmation let us return to

the consideration of the points suggested.

_First_: The New York Clearing House, as stated, had its first clearing

Oct. 11, 1853. Mr. Cannon says that not until August, 1854, did the

New York Clearing House have a constitution. This instrument, with

the subsequent changes, is in force today, and constitutes as perfect

an illustration of the evolution of law by practice, as can be found

anywhere.

This institution had various homes until it took up its present

quarters in one of the most beautiful buildings in the whole

country--worthy in every way of its use and purpose. It has cost

$1,130,000 and is owned by the Clearing House Banks of New York, under

the name of the Clearing House Building Company.

Mr. Cannon says: "The administration of the Clearing House is vested in

a President, Secretary, Manager, Assistant Manager, and five standing

committees.... The manager under the control of the Clearing House

committee, has full charge of all business at the Clearing House,

but before entering upon his duties, he is required to give bond, in

the sum of $10,000.... Although the Constitution provides for the

appointment of a manager, annually, it is the custom to retain the same

one in office, year after year. As a matter of fact, there have been

only three managers in the whole history of the association.... The

Clearing House committee is clothed with almost absolute power, being

second in authority only to the association itself. The ablest and

most experienced bank officers, therefore, are usually chosen to serve

on it. The committee is elected annually. The association at present,

1912, consists of sixty-three members and twenty-two non-members, and

the United States Sub-Treasury, located at New York. The latter makes

its exchanges only at the Clearing House, its balances being settled at

its own counter. It has no voice in the government of the association,

and pays a nominal sum for actual expenses. The privilege which the

Sub-Treasury enjoys of making its exchanges through the Clearing House

is a matter of great accommodation, both to the Sub-Treasury and to the

banks. The New York post office clears through one of the members, but

renders no compensation to the association for the privilege.

"The membership of the association, since its organization, has been

constantly changing, owing to the admission and expulsion of members

and voluntary withdrawals, as provided by the constitution.... A bank,

the capital of which does not exceed $5,000,000, must pay $5,000; a

bank, the capital of which exceeds $5,000,000, must pay $7,500. Any

member increasing its capital is required to pay in accordance with

those rates."

In 1899, the large number of trust companies that had come into

existence attracted the attention of the Clearing House and the

Clearing House Committee adopted a rule that no trust company could

clear that had not been in existence for at least one year, and that

every trust company clearing through a member shall furnish a weekly

statement of its condition to the manager of the association.

The New York State law did not then provide that any trust company

should carry cash reserves, although state banks were required to

have 15 per cent cash in their vaults. It was tacitly understood that

all banks clearing, should have 25 per cent reserve. Of course the

trust companies could ride the banks, and they took advantage of their

opportunity. This caused great dissatisfaction, and rightly so. On Feb.

11, 1903, the association passed a resolution requiring that every

institution (not a bank required to maintain specified reserves) "shall

after June 1, 1903, keep in its vaults a cash reserve, equal to 5 per

cent; after Feb. 1, 1904, 7-1/2 per cent; after June 1, 1904, not less

than 10 per cent, nor more than 15 per cent, as the association might

determine."

The trust companies kicked and protested, and almost, without

exception, withdrew from the Clearing House; but, after the panic of

1907, the New York legislature passed a law requiring them to carry 15

per cent cash reserves.

On June 13, 1908, the association passed a resolution compelling all

trust companies, who were members, to carry a cash reserve of 25 per

cent, and on Jan. 16, 1908, the association for the first time in its

history made a rule compelling all its members to keep a cash reserve

of 25 per cent.

Every member of the New York Clearing House is required to furnish

to the manager, weekly, for publication, a statement showing its

condition, showing the average amount of loans, and discounts, specie,

legal tender, notes in circulation and deposits. The capital and net

profits are also given, this being the only association which gives the

latter item.

Along the same line of legislation controlling the action or conduct

of its members, the Clearing House committee, having plenary power to

do so, passed a rule--determining just what every member and bank,

clearing through members, should charge for collections.

The rule made some cities free, that is, there were no charges for

collection made compulsory. Some cities were under a fixed charge

of one-tenth of one per cent, and others under a fixed charge of

one-quarter of one per cent. Upon April 3, 1899, this rule became

obligatory, and if any member violated it, the penalty was $5,000 for

the first offense; for the second offense it might be expelled from the

association.[1]

MR. LABORINGMAN: That is precisely the same rule we have in our Union,

only our limit is not so high. We fine a member $5.00 for his first

offense, and for the second offense we take away his card. By Jove,

that is a hot proposition. And these are the very fellows who are

always cussing us because of our Union rules.

MR. LAWYER: I want to tell you something else, gentlemen, that

combination among the banks is clearly in restraint of trade and in

violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Law. Anybody who wants to can bring

those banks to time.

MR. BANKER: Now, gentlemen, don't you perceive that this institution,

step by step, has evolved its own laws, or rules of action, slowly

developing its present system, and regulating and controlling the

conduct of those outside institutions which enjoy its privileges? The

story of this Clearing House is the record of all of them in principle.

They are, each and every one of them, self-centered, self-contained,

and a law unto themselves.

The operation of the New York Clearing House is practically that of all

the others. Its room is sixty feet square. Four rows of desks occupy

the floor. Each member has its own numbered desk separated from its

neighbors' by a wire net work.

At one minute to ten o'clock the manager sounds the gong and all are

instantly ready for the exchange which begins promptly at ten o'clock.

At the expiration of forty-five minutes usually, but sometimes in

thirty-seven minutes, and even in thirty-five minutes, every member of

the association has in its possession all the paper drawn upon itself,

which the other members have credited on their books, and has delivered

all the paper drawn upon all the other members of the association in

exchange which it has credited upon its books.

Mr. Cannon states that the amount delivered by any member has never

been exactly equal to the amount received but has come within one

cent upon a single occasion. To complete the clearing transaction, it

is necessary, of course, for those who owe anything to pay it to the

Clearing House, and for the Clearing House in turn to distribute what

is paid to it among those who are entitled to receive it.

As a matter of convenience for the purpose of settling the balances,

the members of the Clearing House deposit with the Clearing House gold

coin, gold certificates, silver certificates and legal tender notes,

and receive clearing house certificates, therefor, in denominations of

$1,000, $2,000, $3,000, $4,000, $5,000, $10,000, $20,000, $50,000 and

$100,000 each. All notes of a smaller denomination than $5.00 should,

according to practice, be put up in packages of not more than $5,000.

All packages are sealed and marked with the name of the institution

depositing them with the amount, date and kind of money they contain.

The banks, also, deposit at the Sub-Treasury in New York gold coin, for

which certificates are issued by the Assistant United States Treasurer.

These certificates are in two denominations, $5,000 and $10,000 each;

the holders of these certificates are the absolute owners of them.

_It is stated upon high authority that the amount of such money now

deposited at the various Clearing Houses throughout the United States

exceeds the sum of $200,000,000. In other words, that we have today in

the United States centralized our reserves to that extent for certain

purposes._

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, your history of the development of the

Clearing House and your description of its operations have certainly

been very clear, and most interesting. The second point you mention,

the clearing of country checks, will appeal to all the business men of

the country as it has to me for a long time; especially since I have a

great deal of business up in New England, where this practice has been

in force since 1899. I was up there the other day, and my partner took

me to see Mr. Charles A. Ruggles, the manager of the Boston Clearing

House. After he had described the system of clearing country checks,

he handed me a little pamphlet giving the history of its development

in Boston and setting forth its reasons and advantages so graphically,

that I am going to quote from it in telling you gentlemen about it.

Let me say to you that I am confident that when this principle is

fully understood, and carried out, as it soon will be, to its logical

conclusion, checks, precisely like our bank notes, will be par

everywhere in the United States. I am fully aware that you are greatly

surprised at this statement; but take my word for it and remember that

what I have prophesied is going to happen. _Free zones are going to

increase until every check will be free within its own zone, and almost

immediately as a consequence, the zone centers will settle with each

other daily; that is all checks will not only be free in their own

zones, but will be free between all zones, that is all checks will be

par everywhere._

However, let me tell you how it developed in New England. Ruggles

describes it in these words:

"That the use of checks has increased rapidly in the past ten years

is an undisputed fact, and the question of how to handle them to

advantage, or without loss, is a problem that has caused much

discussion. All large cities have had the same experience, and have

dealt with the question in various ways. Rather than ask his bank

to draw exchange, the country merchant sent his check to Boston in

payment of his account, and in this way, he was encouraged by the city

merchants who deposited the check in his bank, where it was received at

par. This continued until the volume handled reached such proportions

as to make the item of exchange quite prominent in the expense account,

which the city bankers sought to reduce by various methods. In many

cases checks were not sent directly to the banks upon which they were

drawn, some other route being selected to avoid exchange charges; as,

for example, a check on Stonington, Conn., deposited in Westerly, R.I.,

only six miles distant, after many days, during which it traveled one

thousand miles, perhaps, passed through Providence, Boston, Newport,

then New Haven and New London and reached its destination bearing the

endorsement of nine banks. Mr. Cannon in his work on Clearing Houses

cites a remarkable case of zigzagging to avoid collection charges;

a check on Sag Harbor, N.Y., paid to a Hoboken firm was eleven days

reaching its destination. Had it been collected through the New York

Clearing House ten days' time, fifteen hundred miles of travel and a

vast amount of clerical work might have been saved."

Here are two diagrams showing the route and the indorsements of the

check to which Mr. Cannon referred, taken from Mr. Cannon's work on

Clearing Houses.

Mr. Ruggles further says: "The subject of the collection of the country

check in a more expeditious and economical method than that then in

force in Boston, was first agitated in 1877, when a committee of five

was appointed to consider the question. A majority reported that the

annual cost to the banks of Boston was two hundred and twenty-nine

thousand dollars for collecting New England checks and recommended

that the business be consolidated, which would very materially reduce

labor and expense. This report was received and placed on file. A

minority report was also submitted in opposition to any change, on the

ground that it would sever the social and business relations which then

existed, and the clerical force required to handle the entire business

would incur so heavy an expense that the cost of collecting would be

as much, if not more, than was the case by the method then existing.

No further action was taken until 1883, when another committee was

appointed to consider the same question. They reported that returns

from all the banks showed that double the business reported by the

former committee was then being transacted and that the probable cost

was four hundred thousand dollars; they suggested that an agency

similar to the Clearing House be established for the purpose of making

the collections. The banks failed to endorse this proposition and the

matter was dropped until 1898, when a committee was appointed by the

Bank Presidents' Association to again consider this important question;

in their report it was recommended that the Clearing House Association

act on the matter and undertake to make the collections. A committee

was appointed by that body, who endorsed the previous report. Their

report was accepted and the Clearing House Association authorized

the Clearing House committee to put in operation the present system,

and the banks of Massachusetts were first addressed on the subject on

April 14, 1899, the result being a conference between the Massachusetts

Bank Cashiers' Association and the Clearing House committee. This

conference revealed a decided difference of opinion at first, but

both sides were brought to a clear understanding of the situation

eventually. The position taken by the Clearing House was that it did

not propose to dictate to the country banker how he should transact his

business or coerce him into acting in conjunction with the Clearing

House; nevertheless, the Boston banks claimed the right to use their

own methods in making collections, and should the country banker decide

to charge exchange, checks on his bank would not be accepted at par

in Boston, and might be collected by express or such other means as

was thought advisable. Comparatively few of the banks in Massachusetts

appeared in opposition when the subject had been fully discussed. At

a second conference the Cashiers' Association asked the privilege of

making payments in New York Exchange if more convenient for them, and

this request was readily complied with. They also asked that they might

ship currency when necessary, at the expense of the Boston banks; this

request was also granted, and in a few months all were remitting at par

and checks from all the Boston banks were being collected through the

Clearing House. On Sept. 21st, Maine was added to the list, followed by

Rhode Island and Connecticut on Nov. 9th, and New Hampshire and Vermont

in January, 1900.

[Illustration:

Fac-simile of the Back of the Check, Showing the Numerous Indorsements

it Bore on Finally Reaching the Bank on which it was Drawn.

_From James G. Cannon's Work on Clearing Houses._]

"The first year the amount collected was $541,000,000 at a cost of ten

cents per thousand dollars; the second year $565,000,000 at a cost of

eight cents; the third year $607,000,000 with cost reduced to seven

cents. Since the opening of the Foreign Department, as we term it, the

average yearly business has been six hundred million dollars, and the

average cost seven cents. The expenses are met by an assessment levied

on the banks based on their daily average business. There are at

present in New England six hundred and thirty-seven banks and trust

companies to whom checks are sent daily, and the number of packages

handled will average five thousand."

[Illustration: Map Showing the Check's Itinerary.

_From James G. Cannon's Work on Clearing Houses._]

MR. BANKER: Mr. Merchant, I am very much surprised that you have made

such a thorough study of this feature of the banking problem, but I

am also equally gratified. You have certainly explained the question

so clearly and fully that no one can fail to be impressed with the

future possibilities of this plan of clearing country checks, and I

am convinced that you are absolutely right that the time is not far

distant when every check in the United States will be par everywhere

precisely as our bank notes are today; and why should they not be so,

since both are identically the same thing in principle.

MR. LAWYER: I can see what a tremendous advantage that would be to

our commerce, indeed, incalculable, and I can see that there is no

substantial difference between a check on a bank and a bank note, which

is a check of the bank on itself; both are mere credits, and as you

say, when fully comprehended and rightly understood, will be treated

in precisely the same way in the exchanges of the country. But it

does seem to me as though we shall have to have a better knowledge of

our banks, and the business houses of the country, too, if this great

reform is to be brought about.

MR. BANKER: That is true, but the bankers of the country have realized

for a long time that their greatest peril came from the unsound

practices and reckless methods of some of their own number and have

already taken steps to protect themselves against such practices.

You, gentlemen, will all of you, no doubt, remember the Walsh failure

at Chicago in 1906. You will also remember that Walsh had control

of three different banks with approximately $30,000,000 resources;

one was a National Bank, under national supervision; one a Trust

Company and one a Savings Bank; both of the latter being under State

supervision. This enabled Walsh to flim-flam the examiners, one

examiner being national and the other state, by juggling the assets

and then finally diverting practically all of the deposits into his

own enterprises; certainly the best part of them was used in promoting

his business schemes. It took this kind of an earthquake to wake up

Chicago and bring into the banking fraternity, or business world, one

of the greatest reforms of the commercial life of the country. I say

commercial world advisedly because about the same time Chicago had an

experience with a fish house that was really the biggest fish story

that was ever told. The sad thing about this fish story was that it was

true and cost the fishermen, the Chicago banks, and the fishermen and

bankers elsewhere, about $3,000,000.

These two experiences capped the climax and illustrated perfectly the

need of just what followed in the Clearing House at Chicago.

This brings me naturally to the third point that I mentioned as

important and vital in the evolution of the American Clearing House.

On June 1, 1906, the Clearing House Association of Chicago, Illinois,

acting upon a resolution introduced by Mr. Fenton, Vice-President of

one of its banks, established an independent system of Clearing House

bank examinations. Only recently the chairman of the Clearing House

used this language:

"The result of our experience in Chicago is most satisfactory and

gratifying. The banks have almost unanimously adopted every suggestion

made by the Clearing House Committee for their betterment and strength.

In several instances the Committee, from its wider knowledge of

the financial situation, has been able to save some of the smaller

institutions from loss by enabling them to take hold of conditions in

time. I cannot properly go into such details as would illustrate the

effectiveness of Clearing House examinations as we have experienced

it, and can only say in a general way that it has been even more

satisfactory than I anticipated it would be before it was undertaken."

MR. LAWYER: Right on this point I want to read to you a letter I

have just received from the Clearing House examiner of Los Angeles,

California.

Dear Sir:

Replying to your inquiry of December 9th, will say that Clearing House

examinations were begun in Los Angeles on May 1, 1908. Since the

inauguration of the system there have been no bank failures, because

the Executive Committee of the Clearing House Association will not

permit banks to reach the danger point.

We have had one instance where, after watching a bank for three years,

giving it a chance to correct its bad methods and put itself in good

condition, the Clearing House finally compelled it to assign all of

its assets to a trustee, and the public was notified that all claims

would be paid on demand....

National and State examinations have improved greatly during the last

ten years, but they will always lack the strongest element--the calm,

clear judgment of the local executive committee, whose demands are

founded on knowledge of the situation, and whose mind is not warped by

political strings.

Yours very truly,

(Signed) John W. Wilson,

_Examiner, Los Angeles

Clearing House Assn._

Mr. Cannon in his admirable work on Clearing Houses, says:

In substantially his own words the Chicago examiners operate under the

following conditions: The examinations extend to all the associated

banks in Chicago, and to all non-member institutions. The work is

conducted with the aid of five regular assistants, each fitted by

experience to thoroughly do that part of the work assigned to him.

The examinations include, besides the verification of the assets and

liabilities of each bank, so far as is possible, an investigation

of the workings of every department, and are made as thorough as is

practicable. After each examination the examiner prepares a detailed

report in duplicate, describing the bank's loans, bonds, investments

and other assets, mentioning specially all those, either direct, or

indirect, to officers, directors, or employees, or to corporations in

which they may be interested. The report also contains a description

of conditions found in every department. One of these reports is filed

in the vaults of the Clearing House in the custody of the examiner,

and the other is handed to the examined banks' president for the use

of its directors. The individual directors are then notified that the

examination has been made, and that a copy of the examiners' report has

been handed to the presidents for their use. In this way every director

is given an opportunity to see the report, and the examiner, in every

instance, insists upon receiving acknowledgment of the receipt of these

notices.

The detailed report, retained by the examiner, is not submitted to the

Clearing House committee, under whose direct supervision he operates,

unless the discovery of unusual conditions make it necessary. A

special report in brief form is prepared in every case, and read to

the Clearing House committee at meetings called for that purpose. The

report is made in letter form, and describes in general terms the

character of the examined banks' assets, points out all loans, direct

or indirect, to officers, directors, or employees, or to corporations

in which they may have an interest. It further describes all excessive

and important loans, calls attention to any unwarranted conditions,

gross irregularities, or dangerous tendencies, should any such exist,

and expresses in a general way the examiner's opinion of each bank as

he finds it.

The circumstances under which the first Clearing House bank examiner

was appointed and the result are well set forth by James B. Forgan,

President First National Bank of Chicago.

"Chicago was the pioneer in Clearing House bank examinations.

"They were inaugurated there in 1906 after the failure of a National

bank and two State banks. These institutions were under the direct

management of one man who was president of the three. The condition of

their affairs when disclosed surprised and appalled the other Chicago

bankers. The liabilities of the private ventures of the president had

gradually accumulated in the three banks until they had absorbed the

entire capital and surplus of all three, amounting to $3,500,000, and

44 per cent of their aggregate deposits of $27,000,000, one-third of

which was public funds.

"The condition in the National bank had developed through a period

of years during which the Comptroller of the Currency, through the

semi-annual reports of his examiners, had been kept fully advised of

what was going on. Among the assets were found nineteen fictitious

loans for $90,000 each represented by so-called memorandum notes.

Each memorandum note purported to be secured by $100,000 of second

mortgage bonds of the Wisconsin & Michigan Railway Co. This road was

controlled by the bank president, and the bonds proved worthless. The

first mortgage bonds of the same road, $952,000 of which (being almost

the entire issue) were also among the assets of the banks, were finally

disposed of at about 23 cents on the dollar. These memorandum notes

did not, on the face of them, even pretend to be the obligations of

bona fide borrowers. The ostensible signatures on them, although in

different names, were all in the handwriting of the clerk who filled

them out and who wrote plainly in red ink across the face of each the

words 'Memorandum Note.' They could not deceive anyone who saw them and

they did not deceive the national bank examiners who reported to the

Comptroller the facts in connection with them.

"Although cognizant of these irregularities and of the accumulating

obligations in the bank of the president's private enterprises, the

Comptroller apparently could not or at all events did not take measures

to stop them by other means than those of expostulation and reproof

until matters became so bad that they simply could not be permitted to

go further.

"When at last drastic measures were decided upon the Comptroller and

the State Auditor, acting together on a Saturday afternoon after the

vaults of the three banks had been closed with time locks set for

Monday morning, notified our Clearing House committee that unless

provision were made for payment in full of the deposits none of the

banks would be permitted to open for business on Monday morning and

they would be put in the hands of receivers.

"Business conditions were strained and the time was therefore

particularly unfavorable for permitting the failure of three prominent

banks. The effects of such a calamity it was feared would have extended

far beyond the confines of Chicago.

"The situation was thus protected from a general disturbance of public

confidence, but it was done at the cost of a very heavy loss, foreseen

at the time and since realized by the participating banks.

"The statements of the National bank made five times a year to the

Comptroller's department, copies of which were rendered to the Clearing

House committee and on which it had implicitly relied, failed to

disclose these conditions.

"I have given you these details of this unfortunate affair because they

show so clearly the limitations of governmental supervision of banks

under our National banking law as it has been interpreted by the courts

and by the legal advisers of the Comptroller's department.

"Let me draw your attention to a few of the legal restrictions which

limit the Comptroller's power to act in such cases.

"1. Under the National Bank Act no obligation due a bank is considered

bad until interest is past due six months and not then if it is secured

or in process of collection.

"2. The Comptroller may appoint a receiver when he concludes that a

bank is insolvent. But here again he has been hampered by the legal

definition of insolvency, which is 'inability to pay current debts as

they mature.'

"3. The making of a National bank report to the Comptroller so long as

it is in accordance with the bank's books, however erroneous it may

be as to actual values, which alone disclose a bank's true condition,

cannot be construed as a misdemeanor.

"These legal restrictions are presumably the reason why some banks

have been permitted to persistently publish to the public the figures

of their statements as rendered to the Comptroller of the Currency

after they are known to have met with heavy losses and have failed to

provide for them by charging them to profit and loss. That this has

been permitted in some cases is notorious. The case of the Chicago

National Bank and a recent one in a large central city [$6,000,000 of

$8,000,000 surplus was charged off] are conspicuous examples because of

their size. Undoubtedly as a rule the published statements of the banks

are reliable, but there are a few exceptions, with which, in view of

the legal restrictions which govern his action, the Comptroller finds

himself unable to cope. These exceptions, however, frequently result in

failures and catastrophes. The Comptroller cannot legally take drastic

measures with such banks until they perform some act of insolvency or

when he believes their capitals to be impaired, which, being a matter

of judgment in regard to the realizable value of their assets, is

frequently difficult to prove.

"These disclosures in connection with the failures of these three banks

showed the associated banks of Chicago that statements so rendered,

which up to that time had been all the Clearing House Committee had to

rely upon and which, as published, form the basis of the standing and

credit of banks with the public, could not be implicitly relied upon.

It was therefore unanimously resolved to adopt a system of supervision,

under which there would be some assurance that such conditions

could never again develop in any bank connected with the Chicago

Clearing House Association. There was therefore organized a bureau of

examination in connection with the Clearing House.

* * * * *

"As to the practical working of Clearing House examinations in Chicago

during the six years of their existence I can only say that it has

proved in every way most satisfactory and successful. There has been

neither friction nor unpleasantness. Bank directors realize the great

benefits derived and are unstinted in their praise of them. They are

greatly assisted by these reports in keeping themselves informed on

the condition of their banks and they readily coöperate with the

Clearing House committee in the correction or elimination of anything

open to criticism. Our experience has been that the banks have almost

unanimously adopted every suggestion made by the committee. I cannot,

of course, discuss such details as would show its efficacy. I can only

say that the results have been most satisfactory to all concerned and

that much good has been accomplished for the Chicago banks individually

and collectively.

"The organization, being entirely voluntary, partakes somewhat of the

nature of a gentlemen's agreement, under which each bank binds itself

to conduct its business under proper methods. The effectiveness of

the method lies in the fact that they are all measured by the same

standard, viz.: that their statements as rendered to the Clearing House

Association must be satisfactory to the committee, in view of the

examiner's reports upon them, otherwise they cannot continue to enjoy

Clearing House privileges."

MR. BANKER: From Mr. Wilson's statement about Los Angeles and Mr.

Forgan's statement about Chicago, it must be perfectly clear to all of

you, as it now is to me, that if we had in this country, say thirty or

forty commercial zones, or free check zones, like New England now has,

that is thirty or forty financial centres, covering all the territory

naturally tributary to them, and so compassing, or covering the entire

country, and these zones, all organized precisely as the Chicago

Clearing House Association is organized for the examination of all the

banks of the United States, bank failures would become a thing of the

past.

MR. LAWYER: Well, let me see now, how you would insure that result,

that is that bank failures would cease. The banks fail very often,

possibly generally, because the officers of the banks have used

the bank's assets in their own schemes, or those in which they are

interested. But bank failures are very often due to fish paper, such as

you described a few moments ago. How would you detect, check and stop

that sort of thing? That is, how would you prevent too much paper from

some one merchant, or manufacturer, getting into the banks?

MR. BANKER: Don't you see, Mr. Lawyer, that if your examination covered

all the banks in a commercial zone, your examiners would always know,

or could very easily find out, just how much paper any business house

had in the banks of that particular zone, couldn't they? Don't you see

that if they observed that a large amount of paper of some business

house had been placed in the banks of that zone, that is, loans

made, or paper sold, they would at once be placed upon their guard

and inquiry, and would proceed to find out just how much paper that

particular business house ought to have, or was entitled to have out,

considering its capital, and the general character of its business?

Don't you see that these bank examiners could insist on knowing all

about the financial condition of any business house in their particular

zone, just as well as the banks themselves could and do insist upon

knowing? If a business house should refuse the bank examiner the

fullest possible information about its affairs, its days would be

numbered as a borrower at the banks of that zone, would they not?

MR. LAWYER: That is just the point. A business that is over expanding

its credit by borrowing, or by selling its paper, will probably be

working some other zone, or several of them at the same time.

MR. BANKER: You might naturally think so until you reflected upon

the situation for a moment. Don't you see that if you had, as I have

just said, thirty or forty such commercial zones, all organized, and

all united into one system, as perfectly as if they were one single

institution, that they could within twenty-four hours know to almost

a dollar how much any business house in the whole United States had

outstanding so far at least as the banks were concerned in all of

them--simply by telephoning or telegraphing to each other?

_You must see that every one of these commercial zones would soon

become the most comprehensive and the most perfect credit bureau in the

entire world, and that taking them altogether, they could and would, by

the most exhaustive methods, not even now fully appreciated, be able

to check the whole commercial situation in the United States in an

incomprehensibly short space of time. Nothing is so essential today as

to know the facts about the situation because of the enormous increase

of trade, and consequent expansion of credit._

MR. LAWYER: It does seem to me, after all, now that you have finished

the details of your plan, that you have in it a perfect check upon

the whole business of the banking world. Humanly speaking, I see no

loophole nor escape whatever.

MR. LABORINGMAN: That looks to me like an all-round scheme. It will

certainly work like the colored man's fish trap, it will catch 'em,

both "agoin' and acomin'," and would give this country the only

practical scheme I've ever heard of for insuring bank deposits; for it

does not seem possible to me for a bank to get into a position where

it ought to fail. Now, gentlemen, if there is one reform in this whole

business that ought to be accomplished it is such an administration of

these banks, as will practically prevent failures. Don't you think so

yourselves? This question is always coming home to the working people,

because a bank failure is a tragedy in their lives.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Yes, Mr. Laboringman, I certainly do agree with you,

and I believe that this plan of having all the banks of the entire

country examined by bankers just as they are now being examined by

the clearing houses instead of politicians, and finding out, as such

clearing house examiners will, not only the condition of the banks,

but the financial condition of every business house as well, will

accomplish what you want. The laboring people are entitled to better

protection than what has yet been given them. This goes to the very

root of things.

MR. MERCHANT: Gentlemen, I have been listening with the greatest

possible interest to the story of the growth of the American Clearing

House and the most marvelous thing about this matter to me is that

this vast system which has not yet been correlated is the product

of experience, and that there is not a single practice of this huge

machine from the Atlantic to the Pacific as it is carried on, or

operated, that is based upon a single statute. Think of the Clearing

House Associations in those twenty cities, actually examining, not only

their own members, but every other bank that clears its checks through

one of their members. Why, gentlemen, today these bank examiners could

cut off my credit at my bank without my knowing it by simply saying to

the banks that my credit was too much extended, and that I ought to cut

it down, and get into a safer position.

MR. FARMER: Well, do you know, I am of the opinion that there is

nothing so important in these days as to have someone going around

and compelling these fellows to pull in their horns. They will never

interfere with anyone as long as he keeps in sight of the shore. It's

a good thing and will do more than anything I know of to keep our

business ship on an even keel.

MR. MANUFACTURER: When Mr. Farmer talked about pulling in their horns,

I thought he was perfectly at home, and talked about something that he

was familiar with; but when he gets to talking about a ship and keeping

close to shore, it strikes me that he's getting out to sea. However,

this proposed supervision and checking scheme strikes me just as it

does him, as the most desirable, wholesome and healthy process by which

we can go on in the future far more steadily, and in the end far more

rapidly than we do now, with our ups and downs, and I am heartily in

favor of it.

But, Mr. Banker, it occurs to me that if these thirty or forty zones

you speak of are going to work so closely together, as you think, and

have outlined, there will be sooner or later a tremendous business

going on between them.

MR. BANKER: Of course there will; and that suggestion brings me

naturally to the fourth point I raised in connection with the

development of our American Clearing Houses which was a combination of

a part of their reserves for their own convenience.

You will remember that I called your attention to the fact that it was

estimated by high authority that the banks belonging to the Clearing

House Associations were now carrying upwards of two hundred million

dollars of their reserves at the various Clearing Houses. It does not

seem to me as though it was taxing the imagination very much to see

how very easy it would be to apply the same principle to the thirty

or forty financial centers that is now being applied to all the banks

included in the Clearing Houses. Of course I realize that the reserves

will have to be upon a correspondingly increased scale, ranging from

one billion to one billion and a half, as things now stand, and that

they will all have to be actually combined, and perfectly mobilized,

precisely as the reserves are, when a Clearing House Association

fortifies itself, to protect all of its banks, and the commercial

interests of any community in times of danger and panic.

MR. LABORINGMAN: What do you mean by Clearing House certificates? I

have seen these things mentioned time and time again in the papers,

and I must say I could not get on to them. I supposed it was just some

huggery-muggery of Mr. Banker, over there, for the purpose of getting

the best of the dear people.

MR. BANKER: On the contrary, just the reverse is true. Clearing

House certificates, commonly so called, are issued only to protect

the people's interest. They are issued for the common good, and are

thoroughly appreciated by all those who understand their use, and the

circumstances under which they are issued. Mr. Laboringman, you have

just asked what a Clearing House certificate is. We all know what a

gold certificate is. It certifies that there are deposited in the

Treasury of the United States as many gold dollars as its face calls

for, and the holder can go and get the gold dollars by presenting

the certificate. In the early part of this evening, we learned that

a Clearing House certificate was issued by a Clearing House whenever

some bank deposited with it gold coin, gold certificates, silver

certificates, or United States Notes; that is, such a Clearing House

certificate is for such a deposit as is made, and entitles the holder

to what it calls for, as was then stated. Now, the popular name,

Clearing House certificate, is applied to something quite different

from the exact, or technical, definition above given.

When we say that a Clearing House has issued Clearing House

certificates, in ordinary, or popular, language we mean "Clearing

House Loan Certificates," because the public never have any occasion

for discussing the usual Clearing House certificates. The Clearing

House loan certificates are issued by a Clearing House upon commercial

paper, bonds, stocks or any satisfactory security. In 1907, collateral

security amounting to $453,000,000 passed through the hands of the New

York Clearing House Committee, of which $330,000,000, or 72.92 per

cent, was commercial paper and $123,000,000, or 27.08 per cent, was

bonds, stocks and short-time railroad paper.

MR. LAWYER: Mr. Banker, if you will allow me, I think that Mr. Cannon

has stated this phase of the question so well that I should like to

read it right here. He says:

"Clearing House certificates are of two kinds, those issued upon the

deposit of gold coin (and in New York City and Boston on gold and

silver certificates and legal tender notes) and those issued upon the

deposit of collateral securities. The former are employed in ordinary

times solely as a method of economizing time and labor and reducing

risk in handling large sums of money. The latter are employed in times

of financial disturbance or panic, and although both are intended for

use solely in the settlement of balances at the Clearing House, the

circumstances that call them forth, the results effected by their use,

and the part they play in banking economy have little or nothing in

common. The certificates issued upon the deposit of gold, etc., are

termed 'Clearing House Certificates,' and those issued upon the deposit

of collateral security are very properly termed 'Clearing House Loan

Certificates,' with which latter only are we here concerned.

"Clearing House Loan Certificates may be defined as temporary loans

made by the banks associated together as a Clearing House Association,

to the members thereof, for the purpose of settling Clearing House

balances. Such certificates are negotiable, as a rule, only among the

members of the association, and are not in any sense to be regarded as

currency. They are not even seen by the business community, and do not

pass from bank to bank except in payment of Clearing House balances.

"To obtain an intelligent understanding of the real character and

purpose of such certificates it will be well to treat somewhat of the

circumstances under which they are issued. In the course of the present

century the United States has undergone periodical derangements of

business affairs, when confidence was displaced by mistrust, when the

payment of debts became difficult, when property values declined, and

business houses failed; when industry and trade were paralyzed, and

general stagnation ensued in all lines of enterprise. In such times

depositors in banks, stricken with fear and sometimes pressed by need,

draw out their deposits, in many cases to such an extent as to render

it difficult or even impossible for the banks to contract their loans

sufficiently to meet the demands thus made upon them. Under our present

currency system no adequate method is provided for expanding the money

volume as occasion demands, whereby the banks can continue their

usual loans and discounts, and thus prevent a panic with all its evil

consequences. Hence it is left in a large measure to the financiers

of each community to work out their own remedy, supplemented by such

mutual assistance as a courteous regard for each other may dictate or

as business relations may demand.

"Quick to see the defects in our currency system, and the desirability

of in some way supplying it, the bankers of New York, nearly fifty

years ago, devised the scheme of issuing Clearing House Loan

Certificates as a method of relief from temporary stringencies.

Subsequently, nearly all the Clearing Houses in the great centers

adopted the same device, and by their heroic resort to the measure

they have at different times relieved the business community of untold

disaster, for which invaluable service they have justly received the

grateful recognition of the entire country.

"The great value of Clearing House loan certificates lies in the fact

that they take the place of money in settlements at the Clearing House,

and hence save the use of so much actual cash, leaving the amount to be

used by the banks in making loans and discounts, and in meeting other

obligations. The volume of currency, to all intents and purposes, is

expanded by this means to the full amount of the certificates issued."

In the history of the past the denominations have varied from 25 cents

to $100,000 in the different associations and in proportions varying

from $50 to $100 of certificates to $100 of collateral deposited.

The total amount of its balances is not always paid in Clearing House

loan certificates by a bank to which such certificates have been

issued. Thus, for example, the debit balance of a given bank may be

$500,000, which in ordinary times would be paid in money or gold

certificates. In a time of panic a part of this sum--say $300,000--is

paid in Clearing House loan certificates and the remaining $200,000

in currency. Another, with the same balance, might pay the whole in

Clearing House certificates, while still another would pay the full

amount without the use of any certificates whatsoever.

The first issue of Clearing House certificates occurred in 1860. In

the autumn of that year there was a rapid shrinkage in bank deposits

and a corresponding contraction in loans and discounts. The situation

grew more and more serious as the end of the year approached. The

presidential election was a disturbing factor of more than ordinary

significance. Immediately succeeding the election of Abraham Lincoln

to the presidency the situation began to assume a critical aspect.

Distrust and uncertainty were universally felt.

In accordance with the authority thus given, the first issue of

certificates was made Nov. 23, 1860, and the beneficial effect was

immediately felt. The banks rapidly extended their loans, deposits

increased, and commercial paper, which formerly could not be sold for

20 per cent, was now freely marketed at 7 per cent and 8 per cent. As

a result of the pressure the association passed a resolution in the

following September, authorizing another issue of loan certificates,

and on Sept. 19, 1861, the first issue was made.

In 1863 the association issued certificates for the third time. The

first bore the date of November 6th, and the largest amount outstanding

at any one time was $9,608,000.

Owing to the prolongation of the war, with the consequent unrest in

business circles, the issue of certificates for the fourth time began

March 7, 1864, and reached its maximum, $16,418,000, on April 20th of

the same year.

No more loan certificates were issued until the year 1873, when for

the first time the Clearing House associations of other cities,

seeing their great practical utility, began to avail themselves of

their use. In the year mentioned the association at New York followed

the precedent established in 1860, and the same course was taken by

the Clearing House Associations at Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore,

Cincinnati, St. Louis and New Orleans. The panic which called forth

such united action was one of unusual severity. It reached its climax

in September, and so severe were its ravages that the New York Stock

Exchange closed its doors on the 20th of the same month, for an

indefinite period, but reopened them ten days thereafter.

The usual resolutions were passed by the Clearing House Association,

authorizing the issue of certificates, and on September 22d the first

issue was made. The amount was fixed at the outset at $10,000,000,

which, with the announcement that the Government would purchase the

same amount of bonds, caused an immediate subsidence of the panic, and

in less than three days its most acute stages were over. During the

two months referred to, certificates to the amount of $26,565,000 were

issued.

New Orleans alone issued certificates in 1879, the amount being

$54,000. New York alone issued certificates in 1884, the amount being

$24,915,000.

The next certificates were issued Nov. 12, 1890, and the issue ceased

December 22d, amounting in the aggregate to $16,645,000; the largest

amount outstanding at any one time was $15,205,000, on December 12th;

and the last certificates were retired February 7, 1891, less than

three months from the date of the first issue. Boston and Philadelphia

followed. Then came one of the memorable panics, 1893.

The issue was commenced June 21, 1893, and ceased September 6th of

the same year, the total issue having been $41,490,000. The largest

amount outstanding at one time ($38,280,000) was attained August 20th,

which amount remained unaltered until September 6th. Then followed

Philadelphia, Baltimore, New Orleans, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Atlanta and

Birmingham. Birmingham to protect its cash issued denominations all the

way from twenty-five and fifty cents up to $1, $2, $5, $10, and all the

larger amounts.

Besides the loan certificates issued in 1893, there was a considerable

amount of emergency circulation taken out by the banks in the

Southeast, under the title of "Clearing House certificates," in cities

where no Clearing Houses existed. In adopting the name of Clearing

House certificates, it was not the purpose of the banks to practice

deception on the people, but to indicate what was really true and

what the term would seem to imply, namely, that such certificates

were temporary loans made by the banks associated together, and that

the banks were pledged for their redemption. The denominations in

the cities referred to were: Albany, Ga., $10, $5, and $1; Chester,

S.C., $10, $5, and $1; Columbia, S.C., $50, $20, $10, $5, $2 and $1;

Danville, Va., $100, $50, $20, $10, $5, $2, and $1; Newman, Ga., $10,

$5 and $1; and Rock Hill, S.C., $5, $2 and $1. There is no doubt that

the relief afforded in this manner was of great public assistance in

the several communities where it was given, effecting results similar

to those accomplished by the actual Clearing House loan certificates in

the great centres. Business houses and corporations came to the relief

of the situation and among them was the New Bedford Mfg. Co., Social

Mfg. Co., Hartford, Conn., Eagle and Phoenix Mfg. Co., Columbus, Ga.,

Swift Mfg. Co., Columbus, Ga., Arnold Print Works, North Adams, Mass.,

Richmond Locomotive Works, Richmond, Va., Minneapolis and Northern

Elevator Co., City of Tacoma, City of Richmond, City of Johnstown, Pa.,

Loomis and Hart Mfg. Co., Chattanooga, Tenn.

So much for panics up to our last. Then came the panic of 1907. Of

this a prominent banker and economist has said: "The truth is that

responsibilities for the panic of 1907 lie at the door of our currency

system. No other adequate cause can be found. We do business by the

modern system of bank credits, but we have failed to supplement this

machinery with the means for readily converting bank credits into cash."

On Oct. 26, 1907, New York issued Clearing House loan certificates. On

Oct. 26, 1907, Chicago also issued Clearing House loan certificates.

On Nov. 6th, Chicago issued Clearing House checks for $1, $2, $5, $10,

amounting to $7,500,000. These checks were secured by Clearing House

loan certificates.

On November 16th, Philadelphia issued Clearing House certificates and

the business houses issued pay checks for wages which were cleared

through the Clearing House.

During the fall many cities issued Clearing House checks in small

denominations which were used for currency. Canton issued pay checks

for $1, $2, $5 and $10, amounting to $200,000, which had no security

back of them.

In November pay checks in denominations of $2, $5, $10, $20 were issued

to the fourteen banks of the Clearing House of Cincinnati.

Cleveland followed Chicago in denominations of $1, $2, $5, $10.

Fargo, Dakota, issued $5, $10, $20, $100 and $500.

Los Angeles issued October 30th "Clearing House certificates or scrip,"

designed as a circulating medium for the general use of the public.

Mr. Cannon records the action taken by the associated banks of Group

No. 2 of the Ohio Bankers' Association, which includes twelve counties,

and is worthy of comment since it offers the first concrete example of

the possibilities of the banks of any particular section of any state,

uniting in an effort to overcome the disastrous consequences resulting

at times from false rumors in panic periods.

MR. MERCHANT: _Now, gentlemen, why all this frightful agony, this

terrific straining, this ever-recurring tragedy and universal ruin,

simply because we persist in being utterly ignorant of the simplest

economic truths which our own actions on every such occasion have

demonstrated--that there is absolutely no difference between a bank

book credit and a bank note credit, except that the people want

something that passes current in greatly increased quantities, when

loaning stops or credit is checked. You have only to go to Scotland,

and note the fact that there has been in operation there two hundred

and seventeen years the vital principle involved, the conversion of

bank book credits into bank note credits, and the current redemption of

all bank credits in gold coin, whenever called for._

Why, gentlemen, if the man who wants to find the cure would only shake

the moss from off his back, and take time to read what I am going to

submit to you now, or pull the cobwebs out of his eyes and go up to

Montreal, or Toronto, or any Canadian city, and see the bank notes come

into the Clearing Houses, with the checks and drafts, he would wonder

why he had been such a complete idiot all his life, when our nearest

neighbor was enjoying perfect immunity from our troubles.

L. Carroll Root, an American economist and historical student of the

first rank, after a most thorough and exhaustive investigation of banks

and banking in New England before the war, concludes his comment as

follows:

"When the National Banking System appeared upon the scene it found the

channels of circulation in New England filled by a State bank currency

of well recognized soundness.

"In general, it was a currency based upon the 'banking principle.' It

was issued against general assets--not against the deposit of bonds.

It was secured in addition, in most of the states, by the further

liability of officers and stockholders, or by a first lien upon all the

assets of the bank, or both. It was limited--rather loosely, we would

now say--to one hundred and twenty-five or one hundred per cent of

the capital. But though issued under the legislation of six different

states, it was in reality a single currency system--made so through the

agency of a commercial enterprise, established and carried on without

the aid of law. The bills of banks in any one part of New England

passed at par in every other part; and for years the notes of New

England banks had been enjoying an extended circulation in the west,

where its reputation found for it ready acceptance. At home, too, its

valuable points were appreciated and its forced transference to the

national system a matter of regret.

"The history of New England bank currency, thus closed, is significant

for two developments which characterize it:

"First, the steady growth, under the teachings of experience, of the

system as to the issue and regulation of bank currency, which has since

then become generally approved among the English-speaking peoples of

the New World. In one direction after another special opportunities for

fraud or exploitation of a confiding public by rash banking developed

their legitimate disasters and prompted the invention of remedies

'to fit the crime.' Conditions were so nearly alike throughout the

New England states that each was prompt to suffer from any financial

disease affecting any other, and equally prompt to adopt, with such

improvements as its own enterprise might suggest, the remedies which

had been found effectual elsewhere. As a result, the complete system,

at the time of its practical suppression by the National Bank Act,

was utilizing nearly every expedient to secure safe and conservative

banking that were then or have since been incorporated in our own

National Banking system, or in that of Canada--the two great plans

which have since been matured.

"A second feature was the development of redemption facilities and

methods. Starting with absolute chaos, assisted by no law, progressing

tentatively as each necessity prompted the invention of new means to

meet it, the result was a carefully buttressed and easily working

system, under which, to an extent never approached in its efficiency

by any plan elsewhere created by law, the bank note currency of New

England was made elastic, safe and ideally convenient and inexpensive

in use.

"For a full generation before the war, the amount of ultimate loss to

noteholders was too small to be reckoned as an appreciable percentage

on the amount of currency outstanding, while the delays and minor

inconvenience in the prompt cashing of the bills of broken banks

were the result rather of the imperfect communication and exchange

facilities of those days than of material defects in the banking system

itself; indeed, so satisfactory had been the workings of what is known

as the 'Suffolk Bank Redemption Plan'--that the need even of the most

modest guarantee fund for instant redemption of broken bank bills was

not felt until after the panic of 1857; and even then the total loss

was petty when compared with the total circulation, and such as the

most moderate plan of subsidiary guarantee would have forever obviated."

MR. MANUFACTURER: That is most astonishing, actually astounding; they

went through identically the same experiences during the first fifty

years of this country that we have been going through during the last

fifty, and they perfected a banking system which we killed by the 10

per cent tax on bank notes. Now we are gradually, whenever necessary,

even in defiance of law coming back to the same principle of credit

currency, for certainly, whatever may be said of the Clearing House

loan certificates, generally speaking, all those $1, $2, $5, $10, $20,

$50 and $100 Clearing House checks were nothing but a pure credit

currency, and we do not seem to have sense enough to see it, and adopt

that principle.

New England redeemed all her currency at the Suffolk Bank at Boston,

the financial centre of that commercial zone. New England did before

the war, precisely in the redemption of her bank currency what she has

been doing since 1899, in redeeming New England checks at Boston. We

must take our hats off to New England. All we want to do is to adopt

the currency system which she worked out, and her free zone system for

check redemptions.

Canada obtained her original banking law by copying the statutes of

Massachusetts before the war. She has improved upon them in detail, but

the great underlying principle is the same.

MR. MERCHANT: The total amount of certificates in one form or other,

cash checks, etc., issued in 1907, was stated by the Comptroller of

the Currency to be $248,279,700. It is a most interesting fact to note

that just prior to the panic Hon. Charles N. Fowler, then Chairman of

the Committee on Banking and Currency, of the House of Representatives,

introduced a bill for the purpose of allowing the banks to issue

$250,000,000 of bank notes of the pure credit currency character, and

urged its adoption, as a measure of relief for the impending crisis.

You will note the amount was only one million and three quarters

in excess of the amount actually issued, or an estimate within

three-fifths of one per cent of the amount actually used.

Never before in the history of the country was such license taken

by the banks of the country as in 1907 in using bank credits in the

form of cash checks indiscriminately; but they demonstrated this

great economic truth that the nearer they approached to a pure credit

currency, the nearer right they were. And they demonstrated this fact

also to the satisfaction of every intelligent man on this question;

that, if this country had been blessed with a credit currency redeemed

through the Clearing Houses every day, precisely as these Clearing

House certificates and pay checks were, the panic of 1907 would never

have marred the commercial history of this country.

With all of our own experience before us, from the establishment of the

banks of Virginia in 1803, is our stupidity to continue. And are we

now to do something possibly more than stupid when we are naturally,

even in defiance of law, as we have seen, finding our way out? If left

alone, we shall soon adopt these same principles, now in practice in

Scotland, Ireland and Canada? Principles which, without statutory laws,

gave New England, before the war, the most perfect banking system that

has ever existed anywhere in this world, all things considered.

MR. FARMER: Then why in thunder don't we adopt it now? I suppose we are

through with the Clearing House now, aren't we? I hope so, for I am due

at the farm. They are waiting for me.

UNCLE SAM: Just hold on a minute. If I understand the facts, you are

all wrong about one thing, and this includes both Mr. Cannon and Mr.

Hallock. The first Clearing House on this continent was not at New

York at all, but it was established at Boston, where I held my first

Tea Party, and it was started in 1818, thirty-five years before New

York got to going. It only took two clerks to do the business for the

first six years. By 1855, just two years after New York started, it

took seventy clerks to do the business, and the redemptions amounted to

four hundred million dollars per year. Transactions in New England in

those days were comparatively very small, and the business was carried

on as it is in France today, very largely with bank notes instead of

checks. You remember, we learned one night that the Bank of France owed

$1,000,000,000 (one billion) in notes, and only one-tenth as much, or

only $100,000,000 subject to check; and that if a bank could issue

notes, as freely as take deposits, the habits of the people would

always determine whether the amount of bank notes was greater than the

deposits.

From 1840 to 1860 the note issue of the 510 banks in New England ranged

from $30,000,000 to $57,000,000, and averaged $43,000,000, while the

deposits ranged from $15,000,000 to $47,000,000, and averaged only

$31,000,000, or the note issue was nearly 50 per cent greater than

the deposits. The note issue then was the main feature of the banking

business, precisely as it is at the Bank of France, and they started a

Clearing House to clear the bank notes and it was called "The Suffolk

Bank," where all the New England bank notes were cleared, precisely

as New England checks and drafts are cleared today. New England was

a free bank note zone before the war precisely as it is a free check

zone today. All notes were par at Boston, as all checks are par today,

and the Suffolk Bank, where the bank notes were cleared, was just

as much a Clearing House as the one they have in Boston today, for

clearing the checks and drafts. There is not the slightest difference

between the two, and the fact that no one of you men recognized it as a

Clearing House, convinces me that you do not yet fully comprehend and

appreciate the fact that there is not the slightest difference between

deposits subject to check, and a true credit currency, or a bank note

issue. This is the great fundamental, economic truth, and unless you

understand and recognize it, you might as well quit now.

MR. BANKER: I thoroughly appreciate what you say, Uncle Sam, and I

think we all do, but you have driven this matter home, so that I

don't think we will ever forget it, or fail to apply it under such

circumstances again, will we, boys?

MR. LABORINGMAN: No, never. That discovery of Uncle Sam's was a centre

shot, a real bull's eye.

UNCLE SAM: The result of this evening's talk is then, as I recall it:

_First_: There is no statutory authority for any Clearing House, either

in England or the United States.

_Second_: The first Clearing House started in London in 1775. The

second Clearing House started in Boston in 1818 under the Suffolk Bank.

The third started in New York in 1853.

_Third_: Clearing country checks was established in London in 1857. New

England became a free zone for country checks in 1899.

_Fourth_: Clearing Houses without any authority of law have adopted

the following functions: (_a_) They have fixed charges for services;

(_b_) they have provided reserves for their convenience; (_c_) they

have forced all those banks, which are members, and all those clearing

through them to submit to examinations; (_d_) they have not only issued

Clearing House certificates for use in settling balances, but for

circulation as currency in denominations of $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50,

$100, to meet the demands of trade.

If you'll give them fifty years more, and will not interfere with them,

they will in actual defiance of law reëstablish the currency system of

New England before the war and now in operation in Canada.

It's too late to detain you a minute longer. You may go now, but

remember that it took your Uncle Samuel to discover the important

historical fact that the first Clearing House established in this

country was the Suffolk Bank at Boston.

Good Night.

FOOTNOTES:

[Footnote 1: Since the above was written New York City has become a

free check zone for a large territory tributary to it.]

FOURTEENTH NIGHT

BANKING IN 1860

UNCLE SAM: This is the fourteenth night, boys, since we began to meet,

and discuss what in a way concerns me far more than any other question

except the morals of the people. The tariff you can change, any time,

any day, and, as I think should be changed schedule by schedule, so

that there would not be any disturbance of business. Nor could corrupt

trades between the various interests be made, if that policy were

pursued. When we take up our money plan we must be sure we are right,

before we adopt it. I mean absolutely right; for there is no hope

apparently of changing our monetary laws when once they get upon the

statute books.

MR. LAWYER: That is certainly true, Uncle Sam, for we've not made a

single substantial change in our National Bank Act since it was passed

Feb. 23, 1863, almost fifty years ago. Of course, we dotted an "i" here

and crossed a "t" there, but that is all.

MR. BANKER: I never thought of that before, but it is literally true.

The only change ever made, worth mentioning, in the National Bank Act

was that made in connection with the funding of the National Debt

in the Act of March 14, 1900. Then Congress adopted word for word a

provision contained in Congressman Fowler's first general Financial

and Banking bill of March, 1897. This provision provided: That the new

bonds should be payable in gold coin and bear interest at the rate of

2 per cent per annum and that the banks could issue circulation up to

par of the bonds, and that the tax of 1 per cent should be reduced to

one-half of 1 per cent. Not another change has been made, and this was

incidental, rather than the direct purpose of the Act.

MR. LAWYER: This indifference, or non-interference with monetary

laws, is not peculiar to ourselves, however. You find the same is true

in England. There has been no change in the English Bank Act since

it was adopted in 1844, although practically all the English banking

economists during the past fifty years have agreed that it is most

faulty in some respects, particularly in its currency provisions.

The same is true of the Bank of France which was established in 1803

by Napoleon, who proved to be as great an economist as he was a

general. The same was true during the first fifty years of our banking

legislation. The same will always be true in every country, for nothing

is ever done, affecting a financial system, until the situation becomes

intolerable as it is in this country today, and as it is fast becoming

in Germany. Of course, the reason is not far to seek; it arises out of

the fact that there is a general fear that any change in the banking

practices, or system of any country, will disturb the existing business

conditions, or arrangements. Hence nothing is ever done, as long as the

people will put up with it. It takes the terrors and wastes of business

misfortune to bring any change however obviously needed; therefore,

we must be very patient, and most thorough in our work of preparing a

measure for the reformation of our present banking practices which have

been correctly described as "archaic," "barbaric" and "the worst in the

world."

MR. MERCHANT: That is right, we must be both patient and thorough; and

to be thorough I think we ought to know what the situation was in this

country in 1860, at the breaking out of the war; because if there is

one fact that has impressed me more than any other, it is this, that

all the real progress we have made during the past fifty years or since

the war, has been either without any law, or in actual defiance of law.

Under these circumstances I think it is of the utmost importance that

we find out if we can what progress, if any, this country had made up

to 1860, which was certainly a breaking up point in banking, as well as

in all other lines.

MR. BANKER: I agree with Mr. Merchant, and ever since we began these

discussions I have taken every opportunity to go back and investigate

the banking situation, before 1860, hoping and expecting that our

experience then would help us now. I have been literally amazed at what

I have discovered in the way of sound banking in many of the states,

and I have been profoundly impressed with the fact that then, too, as

well as now, all that they had secured that was good was the outgrowth

of experience.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I was so greatly impressed with the complete and, as

it seemed to me, practically perfect system that had grown up under

the Suffolk Clearing House, which started at Boston in 1818, that I

have been wondering whether there were not other instances like that

which would help us; for, gentlemen, whatever we may think, or want,

personally, one thing is certain, and that is this, that we must take

things largely as we find them, and legislate as far as possible in

harmony with them, bringing the inefficient, the laggard and the

"sucker" up to the approved standards of our banking experience and

compelling every individual bank to do its part in providing its own

insurance by carrying equal and adequate reserves and by carrying

on its business in accordance with the highest standards of banking

practices today. Then we must bring all of the banks of the country

under the reign of economic law, and into one harmonious whole for the

benefit of all the people. We must protect our gold reserves against

the demands of the rest of the commercial world.

Now, if any one of you has any information about banking conditions

before the war that can possibly be helpful, I hope he will give it to

us for our consideration.

MR. BANKER: I have no hesitation whatever in saying that there were

better banking institutions in the United States in 1860 than there

are today, so far as the principles are concerned upon which they were

operated. But, of course, we must note two things in this connection:

First, banking generally was not nearly as good upon the average as

it is today; nor could you expect it to be. Second, banks generally

were small, and only in a very few states was banking any more under

governmental direction and control than the grocery business, stock

buying or horse trading. The result was that sharpers all over the

country were using the word "bank" or "banker" to swindle the unwary

people and defraud the public generally. Third, in some states the

legislators were so ignorant of economic law that the laws passed by

them only facilitated the schemes of the swindlers in their diabolical

work.

It was the reaction against the disastrous and disgusting experiences

in one state after another because of the rotten conditions prevailing

that some of the states finally passed laws for the establishment of

banking systems, which for soundness and efficiency had never been

surpassed, nor even equalled for the territory covered and services

rendered.

Let me cite you a few instances; I will take first Louisiana.

The State of Louisiana passed a Bank Act which, though erring in one

or two particulars, was nevertheless almost ideal; and under it, the

state in 1860 stood fourth in banking capital, and held more specie

than any other state except one. No limit was placed upon the amount of

credit notes the banks could issue, nor the deposits they could receive

and no security was pledged for their redemption. The virtue and real

substance of the Act was in requiring a coin reserve of 33-1/3 per cent

of all liabilities, deposits as well as notes, and confining the loans

outside of capital to paper running for ninety days, or less.

Not a single bank organized under this law suspended specie payments

during the panic of 1857, and all were conforming to the requirements

of redemption when General Butler marched down the streets of New

Orleans. The capital of the banks in 1860 amounted to $24,496,000, the

$12,115,000, the circulation $11,579,000 and the deposits $19,777,000.

On Feb. 24, 1845, the Legislature of Ohio passed a Bank Act under which

the Ohio State Bank was organized, with the right to establish branches

and to issue credit bank notes. Each bank was required to deposit 10

per cent of the amount of its circulation to create a safety fund to

redeem the notes of any branch that might fail. In 1846 there were

seventeen branches; in 1848 twenty-five branches; in 1849 thirty-eight

branches and in 1850 thirty-nine branches.

The note issues were of a purely credit character, and were

proportioned to the capital as follows: For the first $100,000 of

capital, there might be $200,000 of notes; for the second $100,000 of

capital, $150,000 of notes; for the third $100,000 of capital, $125,000

of notes; for the fourth $100,000 of capital, $100,000 of notes, and

for each additional $100,000 of capital, $75,000 of notes.

The evident purpose of the Act was to give the people a uniform and

sound currency, and the plan succeeded admirably. The State Bank of

Ohio was regarded as one of the soundest in the country.

The essence of the Act was in the requirement that the notes issued

by the respective branches should be redeemed in gold or silver coin,

the lawful currency of the United States, and in the insurance given

of this result by a reserve equal to 30 per cent, of which at least

one-half should be gold or silver and the balance equivalent to gold or

silver coin.

John Jay Knox says: "The banks authorized under the laws of 1845 and

1851 were uniformly successful and furnished a currency for the people,

not one dollar of which was ever lost by the holder thereof."

The capital in 1863 was $5,674,000, specie $3,033,000, circulation

$9,057,000 and deposits $11,697,000.

MR. MERCHANT: I have often heard my father speak of the State Bank of

Indiana. Can you give us the history of that system?

MR. BANKER: Indiana presents the anomaly of having organized the most

admirable system of banking of any state in the Union, and also of

having had a banking system or banking practices at one time so vicious

that under it the banks bankrupted nearly the whole people. The State

Bank of Indiana and its successor, the Bank of the State of Indiana,

stood all the tests of financial panic from 1834 until the banks were

all absorbed by the National Banking System, without closing their

doors for a minute, or losing a dollar to bill holders, depositors or

stockholders. It is a proud distinction for Indiana that its State

Bank was long the model bank of the country. So well were its affairs

managed that in a period of twenty-two years of actual business, the

profit to the state on its $800,000 of stock amounted to three and a

half millions of dollars.

The Bank of Indiana, which became a model, was chartered in 1834, with

a capital of $1,600,000, and the state was divided into ten districts,

afterwards increased to seventeen, there being a branch of the bank in

each.

Under its charter the bank could receive deposits, buy and sell gold,

silver, bullion and foreign coins, discount commercial paper, and issue

bills payable to bearer--a true credit note. A forfeiture of 12-1/2 per

cent was imposed upon all notes not redeemed in coin.

The institution was hardly under way when the panic of 1837 broke upon

the country. The New York banks suspending, compelled the Indiana Bank

to follow in order that it could protect itself. John J. Knox says: "No

bank in the country stood higher than did the State Bank of Indiana

during the panic. In all the western and southern states its notes

commanded a premium, and in the east were taken at a small discount....

Its loans were made in small amounts and scattered all over the entire

state, thus affording the greatest possible measure of relief."

Great as was the success of this splendid institution, the Jacksonian

democrats, coming into power, at once began an assault upon it,

precisely as their leader had laid the axe to the roots of the United

States Bank.

The Indiana democrats failed to destroy the Bank of Indiana, but

succeeded in passing a general banking law permitting banks to be

established upon filing with the auditor of the state the bonds, or

other evidences of debt, of the Federal Government, or of any of the

states, as security for the notes to be issued.

The State of Indiana itself went into the business of issuing notes,

and even plank-road companies issued them. The Indiana state notes

could be had for sixty cents on the dollar and were called "Red Dog."

The plank-road notes and others of similar value were called "Blue Pup."

The Bank of the State of Indiana organized in 1855 with twenty branches

to take the place of the Indiana State Bank, maintained the same high

standard as its predecessor, going through the panic of 1857 without

suspension, although every private bank in the state, except two at

Indianapolis and one at Fort Wayne, went down.

Like its predecessor, the Bank of the State of Indiana fell on evil

times soon after its organization. The panic of 1837 came two years

after the organization of the State Bank; and in 1857, before the Bank

of the State had been in operation quite two years, a great financial

panic swept over the country, precipitated by the failure of the Ohio

Life Insurance & Trust Co. Every bank in the east, except the Chemical

Bank of New York, suspended specie payment, and all in the west, except

the Bank of the State of Indiana and the Bank of Kentucky. The Indiana

Bank weathered the storm, and redeemed all its obligations in gold,

as fast as they were presented. Many of the branches of the Bank of

Kentucky were at remote points from the railroads, and could not be

easily reached by the brokers and other bill holders, but those of the

Bank of the State of Indiana were within easy reach and holders rushed

for the specie.

In 1860 the capital was $3,323,000, specie $1,917,000, circulation

$5,753,000, deposits $1,186,000.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I can tell you all about the Kentucky banks

myself--and I want to tell you there were no better then and there are

no better anywhere today.

The Legislature of Kentucky in the session of 1833-4 granted a charter

to the Bank of Kentucky with $5,000,000 of capital and the privilege

of six branches. Charters were also granted to the Northern Bank of

Kentucky, with a capital of $3,000,000, and the Bank of Louisville,

with a capital of $5,000,000, each institution having the power or

right to issue credit notes to double the amount of their capital.

While the Northern Bank of Kentucky liquidated in 1898 and the Bank

of Louisville was merged into the Southern Bank in 1899, the Bank of

Kentucky had in the latter year a capital of $1,645,000 and a surplus

of $1,103,000, giving indubitable proof that no one had ever suffered

because of its power of note issue. And there the Bank of Kentucky

stands today, occupying the building it purchased from the United

States Bank, a monument to the sound principles upon which it was

founded.

It may be most fittingly observed before passing, that when in May,

1837, the blighting wave of suspension swept from New York across

the country, these three banks of Kentucky held $1,900,000 in specie

against $3,300,000 of notes in circulation--an object lesson for those

who may possibly fear that the banks cannot obtain sufficient gold

today to protect the notes they are permitted to issue.

The panic of 1857, which was severe in many parts of the country, and

which caused great alarm in Kentucky, produced no ill effects on the

banks, all of them continuing to pay in specie, even after the New York

banks had suspended.

In 1860 the capital of these banks was $12,660,000 and the circulation

was $13,520,000.

MR. BANKER: The record made by the Kentucky banks was excellent,

but for organization the State Bank of Iowa, like that of the State

of Indiana, has had no superior anywhere in the world, and humanly

speaking, the administration and working of both was practically

perfect. Iowa in the morning of her statehood was opposed to banking as

a business; her first constitution provided that "the general assembly

shall provide for the organization of all other corporations except

with banking privileges, the creation of which is prohibited."

The Constitution also provided, that "the general Assembly shall

prohibit any person or persons, association, company, or corporation

from exercising the privilege of banking or creating paper to circulate

as money," the penalty for each offense being one year in the county

jail and a fine.

During the intervening years down to 1857, when the new Constitution

was framed, Iowa had suffered so severely from the _bond-secured

circulation_ of Illinois in particular, known as "Wild Cat," "Red Dog"

and "Yellow Dog" money that a provision was incorporated permitting

the legislature to create corporations with banking power, subject,

however, to a vote of the people, and also to establish a State Bank

with branches founded on actual specie basis.

I want to call the attention of you fellows to the fact that they had a

referendum, a state referendum, in Iowa in those days.

It was provided that the branches should be mutually responsible for

each other's notes; that the stockholders should be liable for an

additional amount equal to their stock; that the bank could issue _pure

credit notes for double the amount of the paid-up capital_; that in

case of insolvency the bill holders should have a prior lien over other

creditors and that specie redemption must be maintained.

To secure this solvency beyond peradventure, each branch was required

to deposit with the State Bank either coin, United States stocks or

interest-bearing state stocks at their market value in New York, but

in no case above par. This deposit was equal to 12-1/2 per cent of the

note issue, and was known as "the Safety Fund" to redeem the notes of

the branches in case any of them failed to do so. In addition each

branch must have on hand an amount of coin, equal to 25 per cent of its

notes outstanding and deposits held. Here is a replica of the banking

system of the Bank of the State of Indiana, and it contains all of the

prerequisites of a well-nigh perfect banking system; and the result

proved the soundness of the plan.

This bank was prohibited from paying interest upon deposits. The parent

bank was not a bank of issue or of deposit. It transacted no business,

except with and for the branches.

Certainly there is no bank in the United States today with so good a

charter as that of the State Bank of Iowa.

By an act approved in February, 1862, County Treasurers and the State

Treasurer were authorized to accept the notes of these branches in

payment of taxes, and by an Act approved March 10, 1864, payment of

taxes and the interest and principal on the school fund might be paid

in United States Treasury Notes, National Bank Notes, or _Notes of the

State Bank of Iowa_, thus showing the unquestionable value of the State

Bank Circulating Notes.

When the National Banking System was established in 1865, and the 10

per cent tax on circulation was imposed, the life was choked out of

one of the most perfect banking systems that had ever existed; and

every note of the $1,439,000 outstanding on Jan. 2, 1865, was redeemed

without the loss of a single cent to the holders.

The capital was $1,048,000; specie, $389,800; circulation, $1,439,000;

deposits, $2,851,000.

MR. LAWYER: In 1898 I heard an attorney from Richmond speak upon the

State Banks of Virginia so boastfully, that out of pure suspicion I

investigated them, not believing anything he said at the time.

About 1800 there sprung into life in Virginia a system of state banks

based on the old Scotch system under which a half dozen banks of issue

were authorized, with numerous branch banks in every part of the state.

The charter provisions of these banks were the basis of the few laws

that have been enacted in relation to banking since that day.

The first of the banks to be established under state control was the

Bank of Virginia, incorporated by the General Assembly, Jan. 13, 1804,

with a capital stock of $1,500,000 in shares of $100 apportioned; three

thousand seven hundred and fifty shares to Richmond, three thousand to

Norfolk, two thousand two hundred and fifty to Petersburg, one thousand

to Fredericksburg, five hundred and twenty-five to Winchester, four

hundred and fifty to Staunton and five hundred and twenty-five to

Lynchburg.

The Charter provided that the banks should hold real estate and other

effects to the value of $3,500,000, including the capital stock.

The cashier was required to give bond for $50,000; the total amount

of notes to be put into circulation by the banks, together with the

debts, were restricted to $4,500,000, over and above the money actually

deposited in the bank; that is, the issue could be three for one on its

cash capital, and this was the established rate for this class of banks.

The bank was well managed and was highly successful. Its notes, all

payable in gold, had a wide circulation and were at only one-fourth of

1 per cent discount in New York.

Five other banks were established with the power of establishing

branches. These mother banks, six in number, were great institutions,

and held the complete confidence of the people. The law did not require

that they should keep any reserves and they kept none, except the

specie held in their vaults to redeem their notes.

The law provided that the total amount of paper circulation of these

banks should _never exceed five times the amount of the coin in

possession and actually the property of the bank_. If the coin of the

bank was reduced below one-fifth of its circulation, it was required to

stop all discounts until the ratio was restored. As a matter of fact

some of the banks issued as high as 8 to 1.

The banks at such times kept their coin reserve up by keeping the

discounts down.

The banks of Virginia from 1827 to 1860 had a prosperous period,

keeping on an average $10,000,000 of notes in circulation without loss.

It is reported that occasionally drafts drawn on New York were placed

in the safe to make up a balance, and called "coin." Be that as it may,

there is no case on record where a bank of circulation and deposit

failed, and it is claimed by those acquainted with the banking of that

day that no one ever lost a dollar by a Virginia bank note previous to

the war of 1861, and they were at a discount of only one-quarter of one

per cent in New York.

On Jan. 31, 1860, the capital was $16,000,000, specie was $2,943,000,

circulation was $9,812,000, deposits $7,729,000.

The Bank of the State of Missouri was started in 1837, with authority

to issue notes at the ratio of three to one for the specie in its

vaults, and with a branch at each of five considerable towns in

different sections of the state; Lexington, Fayette, Palmyra, Cape

Girardeau and Springfield. Its capital was $3,450,000.

In 1856, when the population of Missouri was eight hundred and forty

thousand and that of St. Louis one hundred and twenty-five thousand,

and the indications of substantial prosperity were to be seen in every

department of business, the bank circulation was only $2,200,000,

although its stock of $1,400,000 specie warranted notes to the

amount of $4,200,000, and a considerable part of its circulation was

doing duty in California, Oregon and New Mexico, whither it had been

carried by emigrants and traders. It is no wonder that under these

circumstances Missouri offered an inviting field for the "Wild Cat"

money issued so profusely by banks in other western states and that

its people became victims of an inconvertible and unreliably currency,

which the bank note reporter quoted at a discount all the way from 5 to

25 per cent.

So valuable were the notes of the banks of the State of Missouri in

California in the '50's that a gang of counterfeiters took advantage of

their popularity, and struck off imitations of them in large quantities.

It was a remedy for this evil, which had become unendurable, and

in response to the persistent demands of the important commercial

interests of the chief city of the state that the legislature, in 1857,

chartered seven banks of issue, with branches conveniently located for

the accommodation of business.

These banks were promptly organized in the spring of 1857, immediately

after the Act authorizing them was passed; for the state was

prosperous, and offered a fair field for legitimate investment. The

monetary crisis which was impending but not discerned fell upon the

country shortly after they had opened for business; but they stood

the strain well; two of them, the Mechanics and the Exchange of St.

Louis, refused to suspend specie payment, and continued to redeem in

coin through the panic; and when the Civil War broke upon the country

four years later, these two banks again refused to join in the general

suspension, and maintained coin payment under all conditions that

followed.

The system of banks organized under the Act of 1857 rendered the

important service of partially displacing the uncertain and variable

currency issued by the banks of other states and territories which had

found so easy a field in Missouri. The legislature had also authorized

the old banks in the state to establish additional branches and to

issue notes for $5.00, and in a short time every considerable town in

the state had a bank, and the notes of Missouri banks, issued at the

rate of $3.00 to every dollar of specie on hand, afforded a local

currency better than that brought in from the outside, which had for

years almost monopolized the field. The "Wild Cat" money nevertheless

made a stubborn contest, and the last of it did not disappear until the

National Bank Act went into operation.

In the wild, reckless period, when almost anything in the shape and

appearance of an engraved bill, with the name of a bank on it, was

good enough to buy public land with, and good enough, therefore,

for all other purposes--and in the latter period when other western

states _authorized banks to issue notes based on various kinds of

bonds_ with the place of redemption out of the way and difficult

of access--sometimes in a forest or in a swamp--the legislature of

Missouri refused to charter institutions to multiply such currency

within the limits of the state.

The notes of the Bank of the State of Missouri were preferred to

specie in New Mexico, Utah and on the Pacific coast, and the same high

character marked the issues of the system of banks authorized by the

general law of 1857.

The capital in 1863 was $11,247,000; specie, $3,666,000; circulation,

$4,037,000; deposits, $3,434,000.

Everything I have just said I have taken from John Jay Knox's "History

of Banking."

During all this varied experience in the west and south, there

was a most conspicuous illustration of a complete banking system

demonstrating and proving every economic principle that is involved

in constructing a financial and banking system for the United States.

It was the Suffolk System of New England. Here were six states, the

laws varying in each. Portions of these states were far more remote

from Boston in those days than any part of the United States is from

any other part today, so far as business relations and convenience are

concerned.

There were no railroads, nor telegraph lines, nor long distance

telephones. Indeed, almost every essential to anything like a sound

banking system as conceived and observed from the standpoint of today

was wanting. There was no law requiring a uniform reserve. There was

no law requiring coin redemption. There was no law requiring bona fide

capital. There was no check upon the amount of notes that might be

issued if a bank was dishonestly inclined.

There were, in 1848, three hundred and six banks, deriving their

authority from six states, and one hundred and fifty-nine of them did

not possess an average capital of $100,000; nor was the average capital

outside of Boston more than $160,000, and including that city, it was

not more than $206,000.

By 1860 there were five hundred and four banks. There are only seven

hundred and forty banks today in the same states. Can any fair-minded,

impartial man deny that the conditions today are vastly in favor of

better results than they were then? One law for all; a bona fide

capital; a required reserve; a system of redemption established by law;

notes furnished by the United States Government; a common national

supervision. These all unite to compel the admission that any system

that could prove its adequacy under such adverse conditions as existed

from 1840 to 1860 would certainly approximate perfection today.

Nowhere in the whole range of banking experience have so many things,

which the student of this subject wants to know, been demonstrated

beyond cavil.

To all intents and purposes the possible issues were without limit. The

actual circulation in 1840 was only 23 per cent of that permitted. The

circulation of 1850 was only 40 per cent of that permitted; and the

circulation in 1860 was only 36 per cent of that permitted.

During every year from 1840 to 1860, except one, the note issues were

greater (and usually nearly double) than the deposits, illustrating

with what certainty and perfect nicety such a system adapted itself to

the ever varying needs of the people who were fortunate enough to have

it, and how it invariably, with peculiar fitness, met the needs of the

rural districts where currency and not checks was especially required.

The States of New Hampshire and Vermont had bank capital amounting to

$8,150,000 in 1850, and notes outstanding amounting to $7,300,000,

while Boston with $33,200,000 of capital had only $7,500,000 of notes

outstanding.

_A marvelous exhibition of this interplay and interchange of bank book

credits and bank note credits occurred in the six New England States as

a result of the panic of 1857. The authorized note issue of the five

hundred and ten banks constituting the Suffolk System with capital

ranging all the way from $25,000 to $500,000 each was $131,000,000.

In 1856, the year before the panic, the note issue amounted to

$50,000,000, and the deposits amounted to $32,000,000. In 1857, as

the result of the panic, the note issue rose to $55,000,000 and the

deposits dropped to $25,000,000; in 1858, one year after the panic, the

note issue had fallen to $36,000,000, and the deposits had risen to

$47,000,000, or there had been a conversion of $20,000,000 of bank note

debts into deposit debts. The exigency for cash had disappeared and the

depression had come._

Do not fail to observe three important facts in this connection:

_First_: That although the banks were authorized to issue $131,000,000,

they never exceeded $57,000,000, which was the highest point of

circulation, and that was reached as the result of the panic of 1857,

and that they averaged $43,000,000 from 1840 to 1860.

_Second_: That there was a perfect adaptation of the deposits and note

issues to the peculiar and ever changing demands of the people during

the panic, and during the depression in trade that followed the panic.

_Third_: That the number of banks in New England in 1856, the year

before the panic, was four hundred and ninety-five, and in the year

1858, the year after the panic, there were four hundred and ninety-nine

banks, or four more banks the year after the panic than there were the

year preceding the panic, an unquestionable tribute to the principle of

current coin redemption.

Now, mark this, that the very heart and the very soul of the Suffolk

System was in the fact that the notes were redeemed in Boston in coin.

So good were these notes considered to be throughout the entire west,

that at Buffalo, Chicago, Milwaukee and all commercial points in the

then far west, they were always taken at a premium of from 1 to 5 per

cent. It was not the size of the bank of issue that made them good and

desirable, but the fact that they were redeemed in coin in Boston.

When the soundness of this system is tested by a comparison with that

of the national banks, the result more than justifies the assertion

that the Suffolk Bank System of New England was incomparably better

than the National Bank System; for, when the conditions during the

twenty years from 1840 to 1860 are compared with those of the past

thirty years, all must admit that argument is futile and the conclusion

is inevitable.

Mark this, that while a tax of one-eighth of 1 per cent of all the

notes in circulation would have paid all the notes of the banks that

failed under the Suffolk System from 1840 to 1860, it would have taken

a tax of one-fifth of 1 per cent on all the notes outstanding issued by

the national banks to pay the notes of the failed national banks.

In confirmation of what I have said in praise of the Suffolk System let

the bank commissioners of Connecticut, Vermont, Maine, Massachusetts

and the _New York Courier and Enquirer_ testify.

"The currency of this state is of the first order and can not be

improved, being equal to gold and silver. This is strong language, we

admit, yet perfectly true, for every bill holder can on demand convert

his bills into coin." (Connecticut Bank Commissioners' Report, 1841.)

"The bills of any country bank, redeemed at par in any commercial city,

will always be current throughout the extent of region whose business

channels flow to that city. Hence, New England money is worth more in

the cities of New York and Philadelphia than the bills of their own

country banks. Vermont bills have uniformly borne a premium in the

eastern cities without loss, while bills of their own states are at a

heavy discount." (Vermont Bank Commission's Report, 1852.)

"The 'Suffolk System,' though not recognized in our banking law, has

proved to be the great safeguard to the public. Whatever objections may

exist to this 'system' in theory, its practical operation is to keep

the circulation of our banks within the bounds of safety. No sound bank

can have any well-founded reason for refusing to redeem its bills in

Boston, and a bank that is not sound can not long do business under

that system and ceases to be in good credit when it is 'thrown out at

the Suffolk.'" (Maine Commissioners' Report, Dec. 31, 1857.)

"If there was no check upon circulation there might be some danger,

but the frequent redemptions at the Suffolk Bank and the rapid

communications between different parts of the country will prevent any

greater circulation than the natural business wants of the country

will sustain.... Indeed, this system of par redemption seems to be

a most perfect regulator upon all the New England banks. It would

seem somewhat surprising that something has not been adopted in other

parts of the country that should produce the same beneficial results."

(Connecticut Bank Commissioners' Report, 1848.)

"The charters of the banks have been renewed. If the laws by which

they are constituted the agents of the people to provide a currency,

and by which their faithfulness in the discharge of such agency is

secured, remain unchanged, there is every reason to believe that the

currency of Massachusetts will be for the next twenty years what it

has been for the twenty years past--as perfect as any in existence, as

perfect as in the nature of things it can be. No reasonable man, no

practical man, no man who is not bound hand and foot in the fetters of

mere theory, can desire for the people a currency better adapted to

meet all the circumstances of a business community than that which has

been furnished by the banks of Massachusetts for the last quarter of a

century." (James B. Congdon, cashier Merchants' Bank, New Bedford, in

memorial to Governor of Massachusetts, 1851.)

"We said that the Massachusetts currency was apparently unsecured. In

reality their bank paper is well secured. The experience of the last

fifteen years has demonstrated that the losses from bank issues in the

State of New York are four or five times greater than in Massachusetts.

The system of the latter is better than our own." (_New York Courier

and Enquirer_, 1854.)

"It is by no means wonderful that a system which has stood the test

of time and struck its roots so deep as to have become incorporated

with and formed a part of our banking system should be abandoned

with hesitation for one which is new and untried." (Maine Bank

Commissioners' Report, 1865.)

"The State parts with these objects of her care and solicitude with

many regrets, but with a just pride in their career, inspired by the

belief that their capital has been highly instrumental in promoting the

prosperity of the state, and that they have furnished as good a paper

currency, based on individual credit, as any part of the country has

ever enjoyed." (Massachusetts Banking Report, 1865.)

MR. LAWYER: _If, as we have gradually come to understand and firmly

believe, the true service of a bank is to furnish credit to its

customers, as they want it, and in such form as they need it, then

these institutions which you have been describing were certainly far

better suited to the purposes of their day than any banks we now have

in existence._

Two things seem to have been present in all of these various

institutions: ample coin reserves, which ranged from 20 to 33 per

cent, to meet any demand for credit redemption and perfect freedom

in changing bank credits from the form of book credit to the form of

note credit, and the form of note credit to the form of book credit,

according to the desires and needs of the customers of those banks.

As a result of interchangeability of book and note credits, a bank

could always protect its coin reserve, for if the customer was just

as well satisfied to take the bank's notes, instead of coin, or its

reserves, it must be apparent to all of you that the cost to the bank

would only be from one-sixth to one-fourth as great, and that the bank

would have several times as much credit to loan, and at the same time

be in a much stronger position.

Let me illustrate what I mean by calling your attention to what happens

over in New York every fall. Let us suppose that the New York banks owe

the country banks, say $500,000,000 and that the country banks call

for it from July to January for the purpose of moving the crops. The

banks of New York with the right kind of a currency system would not

need to disturb the situation in New York at all because they could

send their correspondents their credit notes, or cashier's checks, for

$500,000,000. You see the New York banks would simply convert a deposit

credit subject to check or draft into a note credit. The amount of the

debt would remain the same, the amount of the reserves would remain

exactly the same; but, instead of the country banks continuing to keep

the deposits subject to check at the banks, they would take the notes

which would serve their purpose, because they could in turn send the

notes into the corn and cotton fields, to help harvest and gather the

crop; and, just as soon as the notes had served their purpose, they

would be returned to the country banks and by them in turn sent on to

the New York banks, and would have been reconverted into book credits.

Not a single dollar of actual money would have been used in the whole

transaction, and yet the country would have been served just as well,

as though every bank note sent out had been a gold certificate.

On the other hand, if the New York banks should continue to be as they

are today compelled to ship the $500,000,000, they would have to call

loans and shift conditions until they could scrape up $500,000,000

with as little injury as possible to their customers and send it west;

nearly every dollar so sent out is reserve money of some form, gold

certificates, silver certificates and United States notes. Now mark

this, the credit notes cost the bank only the interest on the reserves

behind the notes; but when the banks ship out their reserves, the cost

must necessarily be four or five times as much, to say nothing of the

injury they have done to the business conditions in New York. And so

this same principle runs on throughout all of our banking business

today from one end of the country to the other.

MR. MERCHANT: Well, Mr. Lawyer, your entire argument goes to

demonstrate with mathematical certainty that the country banks would

never have any occasion whatever to send to New York for currency, as

they would create their own currency by converting bank book credits

into bank note credits to meet all ordinary demands, a fact that not

only accentuates, but proves more conclusively what you are saying, and

reinforces your argument.

Should we be fortunate enough to secure a right kind of banking

system in this respect, we could almost double our bank reserves,

that is, make them twice as large, and yet make two or three times

as much profit on that part of the banking business, growing out of

the substitution of credit notes for reserves, and at the same time

be vastly better able to protect the balance of our business from

disturbance due to the fact that we are compelled to use reserve money

for currency purposes. This now seems to me a very simple matter when

you once have grasped it.

MR. BANKER: In this connection I want to call your attention to this

fact, and I want to note that it is a very important fact which was so

obvious in connection with every single statement of capital, specie,

circulation and deposit, that has been given, when referring to the

banking systems before the war, and that's this: that the note issues

did not begin to average one-half the authorized amounts, proving

conclusively that the currency of these banks invariably adapted itself

to the exact needs of the people.

Notes Outstanding Possible Issue was Per Specie Held Deposits

Cent of

Possible

Issue

Louisiana

$11,579,000 No limit except $12,115,000 $19,777,000

33% Coin Reserve

Ohio

$9,057,000 $10,000,000 About $9,057,000 $11,697,000

Par

Indiana

$5,753,000 No limit but a $1,917,000 $1,186,000

12-1/2% penalty for

failure to redeem

in coin

Iowa

$1,439,000 $2,096,000 70% $389,800 $2,851,000

Virginia

$9,821,000 $14,725,000 70% $2,943,000 $7,729,000

Missouri

$4,037,000 $10,998,000 38% $3,666,000 $3,434,000

Suffolk System

$44,000,000 $131,000,000 30% $10,058,995 $41,208,000

_Can anyone doubt, after noting these figures, that the note issues of

the various banking systems kept as perfect pace with the requirements

of trade, as checks and drafts do? Certainly it is perfectly evident

that the bank notes came and went precisely as all bank credit should._

MR. LAWYER: While all these splendid banking systems were snuffed out

by the 10 per cent tax upon circulation, the sound principles upon

which they were all founded are still most successfully exemplified by

the Canadian Banking System which you will remember took its charter

from the statutes of Massachusetts.

There are today 27 banks in Canada, with 2,000 branches. The general

principle of the Canadian Banking System is identical with that of the

Virginia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa and Missouri banks.

It is true there are some differences in matters of detail. The amount

of notes that can be issued regularly is that of the capital of the

bank. The notes are a first lien upon the assets of the bank, including

a double liability of the stockholders; the bank notes are also secured

by a guarantee fund of 5 per cent, which is contributed by the banks

issuing the notes; there is a provision that the notes shall bear

interest at the rate of 5 per cent until notification of redemption.

No holder of a Canadian bank note has ever lost a cent since these

provisions have been in force.

You remember that we have a chart which shows very graphically with

what marvelous accuracy, year in and year out, month in and month out,

day in and day out, the Canadian Bank note currency meets the actual

requirements of trade; no more, no less, but always just adequate.

The precision with which the currency rises and falls with the demands

of trade is the result of the daily redemption of all bank notes,

concurrently with the checks and drafts, through the Clearing Houses,

or over the counters of the banks, or at the points fixed by law for

note redemption for the purpose of keeping the notes at par, all over

Canada.

We want to keep this diagram here on file, because it speaks louder

than words possibly can.

MR. BANKER: One striking characteristic of the Bank of the State

of Indiana and the State Bank of Iowa was that the parent, or home

institution, did no business at all, except for the branches, and

examined and supervised them. Hugh McCulloch, the president of the Bank

of the State of Indiana, said, "that the soundness of the bank was due

to the frequent examinations."

Another feature to be found in both these systems, and so far as I know

peculiar to them, was this: that all the branches were responsible

for the failure of any one of them; but the branches did not share in

each other's profits. The result of this law was to make every branch

the watch dog of every other branch; there was only one instance in

which the home, or parent institution, took charge of a branch in

either state, and that was in 1860. The executive committee of the

State Bank of Iowa having heard that one of the branches had made

some unsafe investments, "promptly took charge of its affairs, and

authorized a reorganization, calling upon other branches for such aid

as was required, which was given so that the branch, with no delay, and

without loss of a cent to its customers, or note holders, or suspension

even of its legal business, was again put on a firm and solvent basis."

Undoubtedly this plan of supervision by the parent, or home

institution, which did no business, was a wise precaution. Mark this,

it is precisely the same principle put into operation that is now being

followed by twenty of our Clearing Houses, and was then, and as I

believe it will prove now, a practical guarantee of all the liabilities

of all the banks that are subject to such examinations and supervision.

The most significant fact, and the one to be noted particularly, is

that the parent, or home institution, like the Clearing House, only

acted for the branches, precisely as the Clearing House acts for its

members, and examined and supervised them. Economically this principle

is absolutely sound. Historically, it is of essential importance

because here history is repeating itself, after a lapse of fifty years,

and in both instances this protective principle and practice has grown

out of precisely the same conditions--the unsound and dangerous methods

of certain members of the banking fraternity itself.

MR. MERCHANT: Gentlemen, the astounding thing to me is that when this

country had once learned and practiced so sound, complete and perfect a

banking system, it should have lost it.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I don't think that that is at all strange when you

remember that it only existed in a few states and consider just how we

lost it. You will remember that the Virginia banks which were founded

upon the old Scotch system started in 1804, and worked perfectly

until the war broke out. The other banks, or systems of banks, were

established from time to time, some of them as late as 1857, and as Mr.

Banker remarked several nights ago, modeled very largely after the two

United States banks, the charter of the last of which expired only in

1837.

From a close study one can discover both of these two systems combined

in some instances. In this way we were gradually working out a national

system precisely as we are today under new and vastly more varied

conditions, but the war coming on, destroyed all that had been done.

You will remember that Secretary Chase, desiring to sell Government

bonds for the purpose of carrying on the war, secured legislation

which put a tax of 10 per cent upon all bank note issues and compelled

banks desiring to issue currency to buy Government bonds as a basis

of their circulation. As a result, he produced a currency of uniform

appearance that was of equal value everywhere and a great blessing

to the country. This condition was a very great and most agreeable

change in the currency experience of the country, because there had

been practically no legislation except in a few states that in any way

controlled banking practices, or currency issues. The result was that

we had "Blue Pup Money," "Red Dog Money," "Wild Cat Money," "Yellow Dog

Money" and every other kind of "Dog Gone Money," that could be gotten

up with paint and paper to fool and defraud the people. On top of this

situation there arose a terrific political prejudice engendered through

political controversy toward a Central Bank. The conditions brought

about by the legislation, secured by Chase, have kept up the present

régime until it has become so utterly intolerable, because utterly

unsound economically, and so disturbing to the general welfare as to

compel immediate consideration and reconstruction.

It is really the first time since the Civil War that the finances and

banking of the country have become a serious question outside of the

acute phases presented in the Government issues, or the Greenback craze

of 1875 and the silver hallucination of 1896. Today, the question is

not a specific one, or a mere detail, but one of fundamental principles

and of a most comprehensive character. It involves the whole subject

of governmental finance and banking and it is well that it should; for

our business is so vast now, almost 50 per cent of the banking power

of the world being within our borders. Our annual productions are

approximately thirty-five billions. Our annual clearings will pass the

fabulous mark of $170,000,000,000 (one hundred and seventy billions).

So that every recurring financial disaster will be worse, if possible,

than the one going before it.

MR. BANKER: Right you are, Mr. Manufacturer, and this is true because

the principles involved are as fundamental and immutable as the law of

gravitation; and if we persist in our folly, when dealing with these

enormous volumes of credit, the destruction that is sure to follow

will be on a scale with that of worlds in collision.

MR. MERCHANT: That seems to describe the situation somewhat graphically

and impressively, but I must say truthfully. We are undoubtedly "up

against it" as the boys say. Only the other day I was talking with a

president of one of the largest national banks in the country, and he

told me that unless something was done very soon, he would get out of

the business, because he could not stand the strain; but the bankers'

troubles are no worse than those of every business man, and it seems

to me as though we were on a perpetual strain, and living in a sort of

terror of what may happen at almost any time. The business atmosphere

is unnatural. Certainly this cannot be necessary.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Well, I don't see anything very strange or unnatural

about this thing, if it is as you have already stated that there have

been no changes in your banking laws worth speaking of, since 1863.

Look at your railroad development. Fifty years ago the locomotive that

weighed thirty-five tons was a whopper, but now they turn them out

weighing one hundred and thirty-five tons. We used to have thirty-five

and fifty-pound rails, and our ties forty inches apart. Now we have

a hundred-pound rail, yes, one-hundred-and-fifteen-pound rail, with

the ties twenty-five inches apart. The other day, I counted one

hundred cars with one hundred thousand pounds capacity each, every one

loaded full in a single train. Now, what would you think of running a

hundred-ton engine, and that kind of a train of cars over a railroad

built fifty years ago? Ties only eight inches thick and forty inches

apart, on a corresponding road-bed. Why, men, I can tell you we don't

want a single-track railroad of that character now, with a switch out

every ten miles to let trains pass; but we want a four-track road,

with twelve to fifteen-inch ties, only twenty-five inches apart, and

equipped with signal and block systems of the latest type, and most

perfect automatic operation.

UNCLE SAM: Gentlemen, when it comes to getting down to brass tacks, and

hitting the thing plump square between the eyes, Mr. Laboringman gets

away with all of you. Now, can you beat that as an illustration of our

financial and banking needs? If you will construct a banking system

up-to-date, and just add to these domestic requirements the necessary

provisions growing out of the fact that I am now a world power, I

should have said, I am the world power, and prepare an international

financial and banking system, we shall meet the demands of this

new century; but otherwise I shall find myself wholly incapable of

protecting the very foundation of commercial credit, my gold reserves,

when the test comes.

MR. BANKER: Mr. Laboringman and Uncle Sam have laid down the right

kind of a program in telling terms, if not explicit. It is clearly

up to us to work out a plan as comprehensive and perfectly adapted

to our needs today, as were the banking systems of Louisiana, Ohio,

Indiana, Kentucky, Virginia, Iowa, Missouri and the Suffolk Banking

System of New England was to the needs of those various sections of the

United States at that time; for they were practically perfect from the

standpoint of economic principles and the needs of those times. The

principles upon which they were founded are eternal and are just as

applicable today as they were then. The principles have not changed,

although the conditions have, and that most amazingly.

FIFTEENTH NIGHT

OUTLINE OF BILL

UNCLE SAM: For nearly four months, for this is our fifteenth night, we

have been studying the principles of economics and the practices of

banking, and we have gone over with the greatest care the experiences

of American banking institutions from the beginning.

No body of men could have been more faithful in attendance, nor

more sincere in their desire to know the facts, and understand the

fundamental principles as they are; nor more determined to get to

the bottom of things; nor more ready to yield, and renounce even

hoary-headed fallacies when it was demonstrated that you were wrong,

than you have been.

All of you seem to have possessed that high moral courage essential to

the progress of the world, ready acknowledgment of error, even though

the confession bore heavily upon the stability of your opinions. You

seem to have utterly forgotten, if you ever possessed it, that false

sense of courage that ever impels us to deny that we are wrong, however

apparent our error may be. You have pursued the only course that leads

on to progress. Your inquiries have always been: What are the facts?

What are the principles involved? What does experience show? What is

it wise to do under the circumstances? What principles, practices and

methods will give us the very best financial and banking system in the

world?

MR. MERCHANT: Uncle Sam, if our work under your tutelage has inspired

you with the belief that our aims and purposes have been unselfish and

patriotic, as you have just intimated, the measure of our achievement

will be limited only by our capacity for the great task in hand.

Certainly without unselfish devotion, and a sincere desire to do

patriotic service, however great our abilities, our work should, and

would in the long run, be a failure; even though it might upon the

surface seem to be suited to the ends sought, because ulterior motives

and selfish purposes, like murder would soon out.

MR. BANKER: It's a source of satisfaction to me to have had a part

in this work so far and I shall be content if the public will only

accord us their confidence in our good faith, and afterwards show their

interest in the public welfare by the same persistent study of this

question that we have given it.

Two things are perfectly clear to my mind. First, this question will

never be settled upon right principles until the public takes it up in

earnest, and discusses it to a finish, as they did the gold standard in

1896. Congress will never legislate upon this question broadly as they

should, until they are convinced that the people are practically agreed

and are behind some well established principles and at least approve

the outline of some well considered plan for a financial and banking

system for this country.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I believe that is literally true, with the exception

that if all of us business men and farmers sit idly down until we have

another panic, then the men who have been behind Nelson W. Aldrich

will take advantage of the opportunity afforded by the conflagration

of credit and like the looters, human ghouls, jackals and hyenas that

robbed the dead and dying, after the San Francisco fire, will rush

in, and, before the public are aware of it, will put something over,

probably the same old scheme, concocted in behalf of the special

interests of this country, fooling the people by changing its name, and

having it introduced by some innocent member of Congress from an out of

the way place, and under unsuspected auspices. Such a possibility makes

it our duty to present in concrete form the result of our study.

MR. BANKER: That is a true prophecy; if the people of this country

remain indifferent, and allow another panic to come, without having

made a study of this question, these conspirators will undoubtedly

carry out their plot yet. Therefore, I agree with Mr. Manufacturer that

it is our duty to start such a discussion, if possible, as will save

the people from such a dire calamity.

MR. FARMER: I suppose that I shall be largely responsible for the

measure of interest the farmers take in this subject. I want to tell

you now that this band of political pirates, and the secret forces of

the special interests, are not going to board this ship, without ample

warning, so far as I am personally concerned.

MR. BANKER: Before we get down to business and actually attempt to draw

a bill, I think we should review the facts and situation from beginning

to end, so that we may have a sort of sky line to guide us in that work.

The banking situation before 1860, the growth of the business of the

country since and the development by the slow processes of evolution of

that great mass of practices without the aid of law, and to some extent

in absolute defiance of law, constitute the condition to which we must

apply those great fundamental principles of economic law, if we would

be wise, and hope to succeed in so great an undertaking by convincing

the people, not only of our sincerity, but of our wisdom as well.

It is estimated that there was in the United States in 1860

approximately $300,000,000 of gold, and that our banking resources

were approximately three billion dollars ($3,000,000,000); in other

words, that the gold represented about 10 per cent of our banking

resources. Today we have banking resources in excess of twenty-five

billion dollars ($25,000,000,000) and our gold is only one billion

eight hundred and fifty million dollars ($1,850,000,000), or our gold

represents only about 7 per cent of our banking resources. In other

words, our gold reserves today are not as strong as they were in 1860

by at least 33 per cent.

Another matter of importance about which I am sure we all agree is

this: that there were in several of the states in 1860, banking

systems which were vastly superior to anything we have today. This

was particularly true of the banks of Virginia, Indiana, Iowa, Ohio,

Kentucky, Missouri and the Suffolk System of New England. As a proof

of this contention, which no man who knows anything about the subject

will attempt to controvert, I have only to state that identically the

same banking principles are in operation in Canada today that were in

operation in those states. Canada, you will remember, took her system

from the statutes of Massachusetts. Will any man in the United States

deny that Canada has a vastly superior banking system to anything we

have in the United States? Will any man assert that any country in the

world has a better banking system than Canada has today? If so, let

him name it. All the Canadian people, and all the Canadian bankers, so

far as I have been able to learn, are completely satisfied, indeed,

proud of their system. Is there one single business man, or one single

banker, in the United States, who would have the audacity to expose his

ignorance by stating upon a public platform that we have any banking

system at all in the United States? And if he did, would he not be

compelled to admit that it was one of the worst in the world, and as a

panic breeder that it easily stands in first place?

MR. MERCHANT: I do not see how it could be otherwise, when you recall

some of the facts brought to our attention during these talks.

The National Bank Act was passed Feb. 23, 1863, just fifty years ago,

and we have literally refused to pass a single paragraph that would

enable the bankers of the country to adjust themselves to the vastly

changed conditions. Think of it, then we had only three billion of

banking resources! Today we have more than twenty-five billion. Then

our savings were comparatively a mere pittance, while they are today

six billion five hundred million dollars ($6,500,000,000). The trust

feature of the banking business, as followed today, had not even been

heard of. Then by a tax of 10 per cent, we destroyed the natural

note-issuing function of the banks simply because Secretary Chase

wanted money to carry on the war. There were no laws to regulate

banking in this country, except in a few of the states, where they had

developed banking systems as perfect as any that have ever existed

anywhere. The United States Government would have been just as much

within its rights and power, and just as wise, economically speaking,

if it had at the same time, and for the same purposes, imposed a tax

upon the deposits that were not made in the national banks. For, as we

have seen, there is absolutely no difference between bank book credits

and bank note credits. A bank is just as fit to issue a bank note as it

is to take a deposit. If a bank is not fit to issue a note, which is

nothing but a cashier's check, it is unfit to take a deposit.

Again, however important it may have been to pass suitable banking laws

in the past, there has never been a time when action was so necessary

as now, because of the almost incomprehensible increase in our banking

resources.

The Comptroller of the Currency, you will remember, has just made a

report showing that the increase in our banking resources for the four

years preceding June 14, 1912, reached the surprising and startling

figures of five billion four hundred and three million dollars

($5,403,000,000). The significant meaning of these figures cannot be

appreciated without recalling the fact that the Comptroller's office

shows that the total banking resources of the United States in 1890

were estimated at only five billion four hundred and fifty million

dollars ($5,450,000,000) or only $47,000,000 more. In other words,

the increase in our banking resources in four years ending with June

14, 1912, were almost equal to the entire accumulation of our banking

resources from the first settlement at Jamestown in 1607, two hundred

and eighty-three years ago.

Mulhall, the English statistician, stated that the banking resources of

the entire world in 1890, including the United States, were a little

less than seventeen billion dollars ($17,000,000,000), and estimated

that our banking resources at that time were a little less than seven

billion dollars ($7,000,000,000), or about two-fifths of the total

banking power of the world. Today our banking power exceeds twenty-five

billion dollars ($25,000,000,000), while that of the entire world is

estimated at about fifty-five billion dollars ($55,000,000,000). In

other words, we now have more than 45 per cent of the total banking

power of the world.

Commercially speaking, the last fifty years has been the most marvelous

period in the history of the human race, and the most surprising and

most surpassing period of this most marvelous period are the years from

1890 to 1912.

We now have more than twenty-five million toilers. Our productions in

1912 will exceed thirty-five billion dollars ($35,000,000,000). Our

foreign trade will reach four billion dollars ($4,000,000,000). Our

bank clearings will probably pass the one hundred and seventy billion

dollar ($170,000,000,000) mark. Our total transactions (of all kinds)

will approximate five hundred billion dollars ($500,000,000,000).

Any business expressed in these stupendous figures, and involving every

dollar of our capital, both the commercial and our vast investment

funds, and every day's labor from ocean to ocean, and from Canada to

the Gulf, ought to be commanding most serious attention on the part of

every intelligent and patriotic man. This is more especially so when

we look into the present situation, and discover upon what dangerous

ground we stand, and how imminent a commercial explosion is, and that

our very prosperity at the present time is our greatest peril. Indeed,

that as our prosperity comes on apace, with equal certainty are we

moving onward toward a commercial cataclysm.

Since we have just passed a more or less critical stage, it may be

well to call attention to the fact that any single, untoward incident

of any great importance might have produced a business tragedy, even

so soon after the commercial earthquake of 1907, which hardly left a

single brick undisturbed in the edifice of the most prosperous time in

the history of this or any other country.

The national banks have been confined from the outset to a single kind

or phase of banking, properly known as commercial banking. This was

practically all there was in the way of banking in the United States

in 1863, except the mutual savings banks, of which there are today six

hundred and thirty in the whole country. It's a most remarkable fact

that only thirty-one of these are west of Buffalo.

There are today one thousand two hundred and ninety-two stock savings

banks, with $76,000,000 of capital, owing individual deposits of

$842,000,000. There are thirteen thousand three hundred and eighty-one

state banks, with $459,000,000 of capital, owing individual deposits

of $2,912,000,000, with $250,000,000 additional liabilities. There

are one thousand four hundred and ten loan and trust companies, with

$419,000,000 capital, owing individual deposits of $3,674,000,000, with

$450,000,000 additional liabilities.

Here are sixteen thousand eighty-three stock savings banks, state

banks and trust companies, with $904,000,000 capital, owing individual

deposits of $7,428,000,000. These do not include one thousand

ninety-one private banks reporting to the comptroller of the currency,

nor the mutual savings banks, which bring the total number up to

seventeen thousand, eight hundred and four and the individual deposits

up to $11,198,000,000.

The capital of the national banks is $1,033,570,000; their individual

deposits are $5,825,000,000 and the amount due to banks is

$2,178,000,000.

These vast banking resources are without any general organization

whatever and yet consists of four distinct economic functions, and our

great danger lies in the fact that there is no harmonious development

and unification that we can call a system under one influence and

control. This is absolutely necessary for the safety of banking and

commerce at home, and the protection of our reserves, especially

against adverse influences in unfavorable times from abroad.

MR. MERCHANT: To simplify the matter, so that we can follow it through

to the end, I suggest that we begin with the unit of a banking system:

the bank as we know it today, the individual, independent bank, and

note just what changes we should make in the organization of a bank, to

make it the perfect and complete machine that the people demand, that

they may be served as well today as they were in certain sections of

the United States before the war.

MR. BANKER: That's a good idea; indeed, the only way to be thorough,

and get results. As was pointed out last Wednesday evening, banking

today consists of four distinct functions.

A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS

A SAVINGS BUSINESS

A TRUST BUSINESS

A NOTE ISSUE BUSINESS

_First_: The commercial business: The use of capital in the production

and distribution of consumable commodities--food and clothing and all

the incidental tools and machinery.

_Second_: The savings bank business: The accumulation of the money

saved by the working people of the country. This is distinctly a trust

fund, and belongs to the investment fund of the country, and should be

treated or handled as such.

_Third_: The trust company business: The execution of wills, and the

care of estates; the execution of mortgage trusts, such as railroads

or corporations create; the representation of others in the capacity

of agent or attorney in the complicated business affairs of today; all

such funds are of a distinctly trust character, and the investment

of the money accumulating and growing out of such transactions in

many of the states are specifically provided for by statutes. Such

business cannot be included in the commercial affairs of the country,

economically speaking, because they are essentially trust transactions,

and the funds, generally, belong to the investment class.

_Fourth_: The note issue business: The provision of all the currency of

the country, except the gold coin and gold certificates, which, while

they constitute all of the money of our country, are also used for

currency; and except the subsidiary coin and token coins of the country.

_True bank credit currency is economically identical with checks upon

deposits held by a bank. The bank note is the check of the cashier

against the credit of the bank, while the deposit check is the check

of the depositor against the credit of the bank. The bank note, for

the convenience of the people, is always in even amounts, and passes

without indorsement, while the check of the depositor is for any

amount, odd or even, that may be involved in a transaction, and almost

universally passes only by indorsement._

The people have just as much right to demand that the banks provide

them with a true bank currency, as to meet their checks in any other

way, by cash payment or by draft on some distant city.

Some people have the very erroneous idea that a bank is creating

money when it issues bank notes. It is doing nothing of the kind; on

the other hand, it is only doing something for the convenience and

accommodation of its customers, and serving the public in the matter of

protecting its reserves and so strengthening its credit by increasing

its reserves against its deposits.

_A bank makes less profit in issuing bank notes than it does in taking

deposits and loaning them out._ Now, follow me, gentlemen, and I will

demonstrate this to you beyond a doubt. You gentlemen all know that

the capital of our bank is one hundred thousand dollars; suppose that

I had the right to issue an amount of credit notes equal to my capital

and that I had to pay the Government a tax of 2 per cent upon the one

hundred thousand dollars of notes that I issue. Now, suppose that I

exchange these bank notes for the notes of the farmers and merchants,

who are customers of my bank, which bear 6 per cent interest; it is

clear that outside of other expenses, my profits will be 4 per cent on

one hundred thousand dollars, or four thousand dollars. But, you must

remember this, that I will have to pay the Government for engraving

a bank note plate, $85.00, and will then have to pay the Government

in addition for the transmission of the notes about twenty cents per

$1,000. Now if I should receive deposits amounting to one hundred

thousand dollars and should pay interest on them at the rate of 2 per

cent per annum, and should loan them out at the rate of 6 per cent to

some of my customers, my profits would be 4 per cent, or four thousand

dollars; identically the same profit that I made upon the one hundred

thousand dollars of bank notes; but I do not have the extra expense of

the engraved plate and the cost of the transmission of the notes. Of

course, you understand that the reserves that I carry in both cases

are identically the same--15 per cent; that is, I am carrying fifteen

thousand dollars ($15,000) against the deposits and also fifteen

thousand dollars ($15,000) against the one hundred thousand dollars

of notes. You will see, therefore, that I will make less on the one

hundred thousand dollars of bank credits in the form of bank notes

than upon the one hundred thousand dollars bank credits in the form of

deposits.

MR. MERCHANT: Mr. Banker, I want to thank you for this very clear

explanation of what a bank note really is and why a bank should have

the power to issue it, and more especially for your explanation of the

fact that a bank makes less upon that form of bank credits than upon

a corresponding amount of deposits. _I do not believe there is one

person in a million who understands this question at all. I know we've

all had the insane idea that the right of note issue was some kind of a

special privilege to the bank out of which it would make some enormous

profit; when, as a matter of fact, it is nothing of the kind; but on

the contrary, only a great convenience and accommodation to the people

themselves._ Furthermore, in as much as it will enable the bank to

protect its reserves, by paying out its notes, instead of paying out

its reserves, it will reduce the expense of the bank to that extent

and so reduce the interest rates upon its loans. It will probably at

some time or other of great stress save the bank from closing its

doors, because it can create or obtain cash to meet the local demand,

while otherwise it would have to suspend, although the bank might be

absolutely sound. You see, don't you, that the bank in issuing credit

currency is doing precisely the same thing that the banks did when they

issued cashiers' checks, or Clearing House certificates, in 1893 and

1907.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Mr. Banker, your explanation has certainly been an

eye-opener to me, too. How simple all truth is when you get to it. It

is our ignorance and prejudices that are our curse. Just think what the

application of this simple principle would mean to the United States as

a whole. Every community could be supplied by the local banks with the

necessary currency just as well as deposit facilities and at a cost not

to exceed one-fifth of what it costs today, and not to exceed one-fifth

of what it would cost if the banks had to buy their currency from some

central institution.

MR. BANKER: Well, gentlemen, I was just going to state, when Mr.

Merchant interrupted me, and I am glad that he did, that while a

true bank note and a deposit are economically identical, yet it is a

distinct feature or function of banking, nevertheless, and in working

out our plan should be treated as such.

MR. MERCHANT: If I have followed you, Mr. Banker, and grasped the

situation at our last Wednesday night meeting, banking in the United

States should be carried on in the future like any other business

of four distinct departments; that is, a departmental business.

The accounts should all be kept separate and apart, so that a bank

statement would show the amount of deposits in the commercial

department; the amount of deposits in the savings department; the

amount of deposits in the trust department; and the amount of notes

outstanding at any time.

MR. BANKER: That is it precisely, and the only way that this can be

accomplished is by granting the specific power to the national banks of

the country:

_First_: To continue to do a commercial business.

_Second_: To do a savings business.

_Third_: To do a trust company business.

_Fourth_: To do a note issue business.

This step taken, no bank in the United States, with the rarest

exception, can afford to remain out of the system, and the result

will be to bring the banking business of the United States into one

harmonious whole. The present conglomerate condition will be wiped

out. Holding companies, which are probably the most prolific source of

business iniquity and a curse to the country, generally will cease to

mark American banking as a game of jugglery and sharp practice wherever

the managers of double-headed or triple-headed banks are inclined that

way. Furthermore, unless this is done, you will in the future as in the

past, know little or nothing of the true condition of the banks of this

country as a whole. For what can you know about the true inwardness of

a bank, which is composed of three distinct institutions: a national

bank on one block, with the stock of a trust company located on another

block, and the stock of a savings bank located on still another block,

and the stock of the two institutions lodged in the strong box of the

national bank. The managers of the national bank may be of the very

highest character, and of unquestionable and absolute integrity, and

they might manage their business just as well as if there were no laws

at all. But laws are made for the lawless, not for men of this class.

Laws are made to compel the greedy, the over ambitious, the foolish and

the unscrupulous to toe the line, and maintain certain standards, which

have been established by the highest class of men of the banking world.

You can readily see that a national bank, under national supervision,

with two other institutions under its control, which might be under

state supervision, or under no supervision at all, could engage in

practices that no upright man would stand for; and practices, too, that

usually result in terrific losses, and consequently breed panics.

These powers having been granted to the national banks, the law

should then compel the separation and complete segregation of all

these various accounts, as they are all distinct in their nature or

character, economically speaking. Part of them are active capital, and

belong to the commercial fund of the country, while the others are

passive capital, and belong to the investment fund of the country.

It may be objected by some self-satisfied, selfish, ignorant and

unpatriotic banker, who is doing all of these things now in some

way with ample or even more than satisfactory profits, that the

combination of these different forms of the banking business is

theoretically wrong. But let it be distinctly understood and observed,

and remembered, that we are not dealing with a theory now. Nor are we

organizing something new. We are dealing with an actual, serious and

most dangerous fact, and that is, that the banks of the country are now

doing all these things in a conglomerate way, largely unsupervised and

uncontrolled.

Our unit of banking, the individual, independent bank, should have

its parts coördinated, unified and brought into a system, and under

one common supervision and control. That supervision should not be

political, but should be a supervision of the banks by the banks in the

interest of the people and the banks themselves.

_Now we are also dealing with another most dangerous fact. It is this:

First, the national banks are carrying cash reserves amounting to 17

per cent. The reserves of all the other banks amount to only 5 per

cent; and, excluding the mutual savings banks, the reserves of all the

remaining banks amount to only 7 per cent. The cash reserves of the

banks of the United States should under no circumstances fall below 15

per cent, and under some circumstances they should amount to at least

30 per cent. Second, the reserves, such as they are, are all broken up

into small fragments, and scattered broadcast over the land._

The result is that our reserves lack the element of true reserves,

and are robbed of their efficiency, which is essential to commercial

safety. The highest degree of efficiency and utility of reserves can

only be secured by a centralization of 50 or 60 per cent of our cash

reserves, or say 10 per cent of our individual deposits, and 5 per

cent of our time deposits or savings accounts. In this way, we shall

centralize and mobilize about $1,250,000,000 of our gold, which now

exceeds $1,850,000,000.

It will be observed that the reform here proposed is in perfect accord

with the evolution of all our Anglo-Saxon law. It is merely putting

into statutory form the present universal practices of the country

which have grown up as a result of those new conditions which are

peculiar to ourselves, and compelling conformity with those great

economic laws that cannot be violated or disregarded without suffering

the consequent penalty. Again, it is the only way that each bank can be

compelled to carry its share of the burden of our commerce, and furnish

its share of insurance to the business interests of the country, so far

as sufficient and uniform reserves will do it.

The second great reform, then, that is essential is also in perfect

harmony and accord with the most approved practices of the banking

world.

It will be noticed that here, too, a method or system from approved

practices has grown up, not only without the sanction of law, but in

part actually in defiance of law. I refer to the fact:

_First_: That there is no law in any state authorizing the organization

of the Clearing House, and yet there are over two hundred and fifty of

them in the United States.

_Second_: That there is no law authorizing any Clearing House Committee

to examine the banks composing it. But in twenty cities at least the

Clearing Houses are not only examining their own members, but go even

further than that and insist that no bank shall clear through any

Clearing House bank which does not submit to an examination by the

examiner appointed by the Clearing House. This has been found essential

to the safety of the banking situation in these cities, but is no more

essential in these twenty cities than in five hundred or one thousand

other cities; in fact, essential throughout, and all over every state

of the Union. This has come to be an established practice, and is being

taken up rapidly, all over the United States, and yet there is no law

whatever that authorizes it, suggests it, or by implication justifies

it.

_Third_: With the consent and approval of public officials, both State

and national, but without authority of law, the banks of many of

our Clearing Houses are carrying at all times a large part of their

reserves at their Clearing Houses for their convenience and as an aid

to commerce. Undoubtedly they are doing just what they should do. It

is stated upon high authority that the amount of reserves that are now

centralized and mobilized at the Clearing Houses today will exceed

$200,000,000. This practice is the result of experience, not only in

the times of panic, such as 1893 and 1907, but also for the daily needs

of their gigantic transactions.

_Fourth_: In like manner, not only without law, but actually in

defiance of law, these self-contained, self-centred, self-governing

Clearing Houses, whenever necessity calls for it, very wisely and

properly issue a true credit currency, in principle, at least in the

form of Clearing House certificates which serve all the purposes

of legal currency itself. They are issued in $1 certificates, $2

certificates, $5 certificates, $10 certificates, $20 certificates, $50

certificates and in denominations of $100, $1,000, $10,000, and on up

to as many or more millions. All this is done not only without the

authority of law, but in the latter case in actual defiance of law.

Here then again we have purely as a result of evolution in modern

American banking the second naturally developed unit, the Clearing

House, by combining, coördinating and unifying all the banks, or

simple units, coming within its jurisdiction. They exist without law

and operate without law, and in one respect, as I have just said, in

defiance of law.

This Clearing House unit consists of the following elements:

FINANCIAL CENTRE

(with one hundred banks),

CLEARING HOUSE COMMITTEE

(without law),

CLEARING HOUSE BANK EXAMINER

(without law),

CLEARING HOUSE RESERVES

(without law),

CLEARING HOUSE CERTIFICATES

(in defiance of law).

If this system has been the means of purging the banks coming within

its influence and jurisdiction and strengthening the situation,

wherever adopted, and if no city where it has been in practice, of

which there are now more than twenty, would not give it up, let any

man say why this safe principle should not now be extended until every

bank in the United States is brought within its beneficial influence.

However, this result can only be attained by having a uniform and truly

national banking system.

As was pointed out only a moment ago, that if the national banking

powers mentioned are granted to the national banks, no bank can afford

to remain outside of the system, because the advantages gained by going

into it are so great.

However, if there are bankers, who by running double-headed or

triple-headed institutions believe that they cannot then do some things

that they are now doing, and which they, therefore, probably should

not do, should undertake to argue that banking cannot be brought under

national supervision and control, let them consider the following facts:

_First_: That the United States Government put a tax of 10 per cent

upon all State bank notes and that they died a natural death. Of

course, it is true they were suffocated. But would any one go back to

the days when they had to pay exchange upon a bank note every time they

crossed a State line? Would anybody take a step that would substitute

a local currency for a national currency of uniform character and

quality? Let every antagonist mark this, and remember it well that the

same power that put a tax of 10 per cent upon bank note issues can

also put a tax of 10 per cent upon deposits for any one of a number of

good reasons; for example, it could and should impose such a tax, if

necessary, to compel all the banks of the country to carry their part

of the commercial burden in the shape of equal and adequate reserve.

_Second_: Can any one give a single reason, valid reason, why the

postal savings bank was made a national institution that would not

apply with equal, if not greater, force to the $17,000,000,000

individual deposits of which $6,480,000,000 are savings?

_Third_: Can any one deny that it is interstate commerce for note

brokers to ship millions, yes billions upon billions, of promissory

notes, or so-called commercial paper, from one State to another by

express, mail or freight? Will any one deny that promissory notes are

property? Will any one assert that shipping promissory notes differs

in the slightest degree from shipping eggs, apples, potatoes, cotton,

grain or live stock on the ground that promissory notes are not

property, but that eggs, apples, potatoes, cotton, grain and live stock

are property?

Will any one deny that the same power that passed the "food and drugs

act," giving the Government power to stop the use of poisons in

medicines and food; the "insecticide act," giving the Government power

to prescribe the character of poison to be used to kill bad bugs;

the "plant quarantine act," giving the Government the right to stop

lice from traveling across a State line; the "meat inspection act,"

giving the Government power to insist upon decent meat; the "live

stock quarantine act," giving the Government the right to prevent a

man from driving his cattle under certain conditions over a State

line; the "twenty-eight hour law," requiring shippers to treat cattle

humanely; the "employers' liability act," the "safety appliance act,"

the "white slave act," the "hours of service act," the act regulating

the transportation of explosives; will any one deny, I say, that the

same power that passed all these acts cannot be exercised to protect

forty-seven States in the Union against such bank practices in the

forty-eighth State, as will at any moment throw the entire country into

a panic and destroy all public confidence in our banks and bring in its

wake the destruction of credit and consequently the destruction of vast

property values?

Certainly no one will deny that any State has the power, and that it

is its duty to compel every person, firm or corporation using the word

"banker" or "bank" to submit themselves to jurisdiction, supervision

and control of that State. Every State has the power to protect any of

its citizens against the wrongdoings of other citizens, and one bank or

banker against the evil practices of other banks or bankers.

In eighteen States no bank reserves are now required by law, and

in many States there is no supervision whatever of State banking

institutions by the State. Is it possible that the National Government

has no power to act in the light of these facts when the banking

business of the country is essentially not only one kind of a business,

but, indeed, one single business, each one being a wheel in the great

credit machine?

_It is so interlaced, and so interwoven that one rotten spot map prove

as dangerous to the whole fabric of credit as a box of dynamite under

one's chair. Is it possible, I say, in the light of all these facts,

that there is no redress, no protection to our vast commerce, and to

labor through the National Government? Is it possible that we could be

compelled to continue for a thousand years in the midst of our present

terrors from bad supervision and want of adequate reserves?_

The manufacturers, the merchants, the farmers, the laboring men, and

business interests of every kind have a right to demand and undoubtedly

will demand protection, and demand it now. Unless I misunderstand the

present temper of the American people, they will now demand that their

interests be safeguarded, and that they be protected against the always

impending dangers growing out of the present conglomerate condition of

the banking business.

I assert that this end can only be achieved by extending the same

organization which many of the larger cities have already adopted to

all the natural, financial centres of the country and include with them

all the territory naturally tributary to such centres; in other words,

that we should now extend the same organization to every commercial

zone of the country of which these natural financial centres are the

dominating commercial cities. This diagram will indicate more forcibly

just what I mean than words can convey.

[Illustration: Diagram Illustrating District System of Bank

Organization to Give Stability in Commercial Zones.]

The straight lines are drawn from some centre in a city arbitrarily,

and purposely so, in order to eliminate all political machinations and

gerrymandering in forming the districts for any reason that may arise

from time to time. They are so drawn as to divide the whole number of

banks in the entire commercial zone into seven equal districts. That

is, if there should be seven hundred banks in the commercial zone there

would be one hundred banks in each district.

The one hundred banks in each district organize in precisely the same

way, and as follows:

_First_: Upon coming together the one hundred banks of District No. 1

proceed to organize formally by electing a president and secretary.

Then they select and elect their portion of the "bankers' council"

of the whole zone, which corresponds exactly to the Clearing House

Committee of the financial centre.

The one hundred bankers of each district elect one banker and one

business man from the respective districts, or seven bankers and seven

business men, or fourteen in all, and the fourteen so selected then

proceed to select and elect their president, who shall not be one of

the fourteen so selected by the bankers of the several districts.

These fifteen men so selected constitute the "bankers' council," and

bear identically the same relation to the whole commercial zone as

the Clearing House Committee bears to the banks which constitute the

Clearing House.

_Second_: The one hundred bankers of each district then proceed to

select and elect a banker as a member of the board of control, or seven

in all, whose duty will be, among other things, to examine the banks of

the entire zone precisely as the Clearing House bank examiner examines

the banks of the Clearing House of the financial centre; provided,

however, that the district from which the bankers' council have

selected their president shall accept such president as their member of

the board of control.

Will any one say that with such supervision as this board of control

will give to the banks of the commercial zone, each bank having been

compelled to qualify in the outset--will any one say, I repeat, that

such supervision will not absolutely prevent bank failures?

This is not only important to the depositors of the country but also to

the general business of the country as well.

Thereupon all banks of the zone will transfer to the board of control

a part of their required reserves; that is, 7 per cent of their

deposits and 7 per cent of their note issues will be deposited with the

board of control. Later this should be increased to 10 per cent.

Let us assume that this 7 per cent of their deposits and 7 per cent of

the notes issued amount to $100,000,000, which will be the central or

economic reserve of the commercial zone and be under the control and

management of the board of control.

You will recall that the bankers' council, which bears the same

relation to the commercial zone that the Clearing House Committee bears

to the financial centre of the zone, was composed of seven business

men and seven bankers, who selected their own president. These fifteen

men will select a representative from their respective zones. So

that we shall have a board of directors representing the thirty or

forty commercial zones directly and not indirectly. Each zone will be

represented alternately by a business man and a banker, so that the

board at Washington would always consist of fifteen or more business

men and fifteen or more bankers; the business interests and banking

interests equally, the inside and outside of the bank counter; the

depositors and the banks or the trustees of the depositors.

The next logical and necessary step is a national central gold reserve

if we hope to prevent our gold leaving us at the will of foreigners,

and also if we hope to serve the whole nation, just as the Clearing

House is serving its members today, and as the commercial zone will

be able to serve all of its members, when it has been once organized.

Therefore, as a sequel to the organization of the commercial zones, say

thirty or forty of them in the United States, they in turn will all

unite their gold in one great central gold reserve, which will amount

to approximately $1,250,000,000 (one billion two hundred and fifty

million dollars). We should then have the "American Reserve Bank." The

amount of gold held by this institution would be twice that held by

any other in the world, and would be under the control of a board of

directors which I have just hastily described; I have used and suggest

the name "American Reserve Bank," because we are known the world over

as "The Americans," and, therefore, I think it peculiarly fit to use

the name "American Reserve Bank."

This institution, with the specific powers granted to the individual

banks as outlined, will be able not only to protect each individual

bank, but to protect the reserves of all the banks; that is, the

reserves of the United States against the drafts of the world,

precisely as the Bank of England protects her gold, or adds to it by a

rate of discount; that is, by fixing a price for the use of gold.

MR. MANUFACTURER: By the way, before I forget it, I want to make one

suggestion right here, because it seems to me as though this was the

right place to bring it in, and that is this: I am firmly convinced

that a bank like yours, and all commercial banks, should be allowed

to write their acceptance across the face of notes or drafts, and so

develop what is called a discount market in the United States, such as

they have in other countries.

MR. BANKER: Mr. Manufacturer, I am glad that you have spoken of that

matter, and here is just the place to discuss it. A great many people

are deluding themselves about the matter of acceptances. It must be

remembered that the banks are not going to increase their own capital

by increasing their liabilities through acceptances. Indeed, this

practice would only add fuel to a conflagration of their credits,

unless the banks should confine themselves to accepting only such paper

as had grown out of actual transactions in which the goods had been

sold and delivered, or were actually in transit. Moreover, by way of

assurance, every piece of such paper so accepted by a bank should state

upon its face that the goods for which it was given had been sold and

delivered, or were in transit.

_Such acceptances are absolute agreements to pay a specific sum of

money upon a specific day, and therefore are just as much a liability

as a deposit subject to check, with this disadvantage, that the

property is not within the control of the bank, as the deposits are,

against which a check is drawn, and therefore every bank should carry

precisely the same reserve against its acceptances that it carries

against its deposits._

Acceptances of the approved sort will not necessarily, if at all,

greatly increase production; but they will create a new form of

investment, that is, a guaranteed commercial paper of which billions of

the single name sort are being sold today. Of course, two-name paper

with the acceptance of a bank of high standing will soon bring into

being here, just as it has in London and other financial centres of

Europe, new capital. That is, capital will be attracted to the business

of buying and selling such high-class paper. It will be a profitable

investment for the idle funds of merchants and manufacturers at those

seasons of the year when all of their capital is not occupied in

their business, and also for the banks of the country at those times

of the year when the local demands are not equal to their supply of

funds. It is undoubtedly true that such paper would also soon find a

market abroad, as well as at home, and to that extent would facilitate

American manufacture and commerce. But we must not deceive ourselves

about the fact that the banks will just to that extent increase their

liabilities while they have not increased their actual capital to the

extent of a single cent.

MR. MANUFACTURER: I must confess that I have misapprehended the

effect of an acceptance, but you are certainly right with regard to

it, and unless we should keep the business of the country in a sound

condition, the acceptance business might prove a two-edged sword, and

this emphasizes the fact that we must keep a close watch upon what our

commercial fund is all the time, and prevent it from being transferred

and absorbed in fixed investments, which is always a bane to the

commerce of a country.

We must not forget these three important factors which are always

present here in the United States: first, the vast, undeveloped

resources of our country, and the ever-inviting opportunities; second,

the intelligence, the ambition, the impulsiveness and the optimism of

our people; third, the peculiar, local relations of our twenty-five

thousand, individual, independent banks, which are always in close

sympathy with and affected by the growth and development of their

locality and the varied interests, and the enthusiasm of the people.

The vision of our local banker is largely confined to his immediate

vicinity.

MR. FARMER: How absolutely true that is, and therefore how great must

be our caution in opening up the flood gates of credit, before we know

that we have guarded the situation at every point. I notice that those

banks before the war were all so sound and successful because they

had to get the coin to make redemption with. Here is something I read

in a book yesterday, and it strikes me that it is right in point now:

"Redemption is the breath of life to all credit." You bet I have found

it's death to a fellow who's got to, and can't pay.

MR. BANKER: Yes, and when you realize that credit is the very soul of

trade and commerce, as it is carried on today, how absolutely essential

it becomes that credit be kept within the limits of certain coin

redemption, if we are to have sound business conditions.

MR. MERCHANT: Well, Mr. Banker, how do you propose to keep credit

within safe boundaries, and so insure sound business conditions all the

time?

MR. BANKER: In just two ways:

_First_: By having the reserves of gold on hand in the various banks,

sufficient at all times to prove all commercial credits, say from

5 to 20 per cent, according to the peculiar business and varying

responsibility of the banks to their banking obligations; and in

addition, such a central gold reserve as will to all intents and

purposes be unlimited, so far as any possible demands may be made upon

it--say 10 per cent ultimately of all individual deposits and 5 per

cent of savings deposits. This would give us at the present time about

one billion dollars ($1,000,000,000) of cash reserve, and about one

billion two hundred and fifty million dollars ($1,250,000,000) of gold

in a central reserve to meet the emergencies of commerce.

_Second_: Such a supervision of the banks by the banks themselves as

will keep their assets in liquid form, at least to the extent that

their assets are commercial assets and are liable for individual

deposits on demand.

In this connection I want to call your attention to the fact that not

a single bank has yet failed which has been under the supervision of a

clearing house. You will remember that this principle was adopted in

Chicago in 1906, and that today the banks in at least twenty of our

leading cities are under clearing house supervision.

Gentlemen, I have been a banker, as you know, for about forty years.

I have never been favorably impressed with any of the methods yet

proposed for the guarantee of bank deposits, however desirable the

end sought is, because they have none of them involved the matter

of such supervision as would insure sound banking, and compel every

bank to carry its part of the commercial burden in the way of equal

and adequate reserves. But I am absolutely convinced that there

never need be a bank failure again in this country, if we will only

organize ourselves throughout the length and breadth of the land,

precisely as the Clearing Houses have to protect themselves against the

unsound practices that are always creeping into the banking business

particularly.

MR. LABORINGMAN: Well, Mr. Banker, if that is true, if a bank cannot

fail under the supervision of your proposed organization it will not

cost anything to insure your depositors. Why not relieve the millions

of depositors from the anxiety they always feel about their money in

the banks? For my part, I cannot see the slightest difference between

a workman's compensation act, an employer's liability act and a

bank insurance act. To me they are on all fours with each other. The

business in each case should bear the burden. This is the settled

social policy of the country, and is in perfect harmony with that

social and economic philosophy that has been gaining ground so rapidly

throughout the world in recent years. I cannot see how you can escape

it. I appeal to you men; am I not right about this matter?

MR. MANUFACTURER: That point has never occurred to me in this

connection, but I must say I cannot see any difference whatever between

my carrying an insurance policy to protect my workmen and Mr. Banker

carrying insurance to protect his depositors. Can you, Mr. Banker?

Before you answer me, I want you to do two things: I want you to forget

for the moment that you are a banker and I want you to think twice

before you speak.

I have been so deeply impressed with the points that Mr. Laboringman

has just made, that to me his arguments are unanswerable.

MR. BANKER: I am ready to answer right now and ready to admit that his

arguments are unanswerable.

MR. FARMER: I am glad that you all practically agree upon this very

important, all important, point. I want to tell you something that

happened during the past week. I tackled Mr. Lawyer about a week ago

upon this point and he declared that the guarantee of bank deposits was

an absurdity and unthinkable because it would cost too much.

I went home and wrote to the Treasury department to give me the average

annual deposits in the National banks since 1863 down to date and also

the average annual loss due to bank failures. I have a letter from the

Comptroller of the Currency, gentlemen, which shows this astounding

fact, that an annual tax of 35/1000 of one per cent upon the average

deposits would have paid all the losses due to the failure of National

banks. Think of it! Only a little over 3/100 of one per cent.

MR. LABORINGMAN: 3/100 of one per cent. Jehoshophat! Think of the

misfortune and suffering that might have been saved by the payment of

that mere pittance. _It is an infinitesimal nothing. Think of it: It is

only 3-1/2 cents on every $100; only one-third of one cent on $10, and

one-third of one mill on $1. You would not believe it. But, as I told

you, I am good at figures and you can bet your life that I am right._

MR. FARMER: I want to read the letter of the Comptroller to you men.

TREASURY DEPARTMENT,

WASHINGTON, January 25, 1913.

Mr. Joshua Farmer,

Loraine, New York.

DEAR SIR: Your letter of January 22d is received and in compliance

with your request I take pleasure in furnishing you the following

information with respect to aggregate deposits of active National

banks and the liability of insolvent National banks:

The annual deposits for forty-nine years in active National banks

average $2,555,700,000. The losses sustained by creditors of failed

National banks (actual for closed receivership and estimated for those

not closed) will approximate $44,100,000, or an annual average loss of

$900,000. The average annual loss is, therefore, 0.0352 per cent of

the annual average deposits in active banks.

Of the 525 National banks placed in the charge of receivers, the

affairs of 478 have been finally closed and the losses to creditors

definitely determined.

The liabilities of 478 insolvent National banks

the affairs of which have been finally closed

amounted to $219,357,100

Creditors received in dividends, offsets, etc. 181,215,826

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Loss to creditors $38,141,274

Creditors, therefore, received an average of 82.50 per cent, the loss

averaging 17.41 per cent.

There are now (September 30, 1912) 47 insolvent

banks in process of liquidation by

receivers, with liabilities of $34,314,633

Creditors have received (September 30, 1912) 26,750,925

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Balance due creditors $7,563,708

Creditors of these 47 insolvent banks have, therefore, received an

average of 77.9 per cent. For these receiverships it can safely be

estimated that the loss to creditors will be no greater than in those

banks already closed, namely, 17.4 per cent.

During the past ten years 119 National banks have been placed in

the charge of receivers. The affairs of 78 of these banks have

been finally closed and 41 are yet in the charge of receivers. The

liabilities of these 119 banks, as shown by the enclosed statement,

aggregate $66,804,214. Creditors have received $56,252,544, or 84.20

per cent. If creditors were, therefore, paid no further dividends, the

loss during the ten years mentioned would average only about 15.80 per

cent. It cannot at this time be determined what the ultimate loss will

be to creditors of the 41 insolvent banks which failed since 1902.

Yours very truly,

W.J. Fowler,

_Deputy Comptroller_.

MR. LAWYER: Well, here goes another complete knock-out for me, I am

plumb out, over the ropes this time. I don't know that I can ever

recover from that blow.

MR. BANKER: Just a moment, gentlemen, while I admit that you have won

your fight for the depositors, you must remember that although you have

an insurance that will cover net losses after you have cleaned up the

failures and closed out the assets, you will still have quite a problem

to solve to meet the demands of the depositors when the failure takes

place.

MR. LABORINGMAN: If the depositors in the National banks had been

insured in some way during the past forty-nine years, I do not believe

that we would have had one failure in ten that we have had, and if

you will now protect the banks, as Mr. Banker proposes, through his

supervision by a board of control, I do not believe that we will ever

have another; then why not give our 20,000,000 depositors the benefit

of it, as it will cost nothing and will absolutely prevent runs on your

banks.

MR. MERCHANT: Yes, and also stop the hoarding of money, which is a

curse to any country where it takes place. I am not sure, gentlemen,

but what the adoption of this principle of deposit insurance will do

more to guarantee steady conditions than any other one thing.

MR. BANKER: Well, while the problem has its difficulties, I really

think it is up to us to work it out in some way.

The folly, greedy purpose and unscrupulous methods of some of our

fraternity have not only brought misfortune and overwhelming distress

to their particular neighborhoods but a cataclysm to the whole

commercial world because of the shock to banking credit generally.

MR. MERCHANT: Well, Mr. Banker, how are you going to protect yourself

against those bankers who think that they can do better by remaining

outside of the National Banking System, because they can do a scalping

and scavenger business if left free. Of course, it will be advantageous

for the upright banker to come into the National System.

MR. BANKER: You will remember that in 1865 Congress passed a law

imposing a tax of 10 per cent upon all bank notes, except those based

upon Government bonds. You also know from what has been said that the

notes of all other banks immediately disappeared from circulation.

Congress has ample power, as was pointed out fully the other night,

and should put a tax of 10 per cent, or even 20 per cent if necessary,

upon all deposits a bank may have against which it does not hold the

reserves prescribed by the National laws.

Congress has other methods it can adopt growing out of its

constitutional powers by which every institution in the United States

doing a banking business may be compelled to conduct its affairs upon

sound principles.

MR. MERCHANT: From some statement we were looking at the other night we

learned that the banks of the country were now carrying as a part of

their reserves something more than $100,000,000 of National bank notes.

The fact is that the amount is probably twice that, as the banks of the

country, outside of the National banks, make no distinction in what

they hold as reserves, between gold certificates, silver certificates,

United States Notes and National bank notes. Of course this is nothing

but a scheme of inflation, for there may be other credits based upon

these bank notes which are themselves nothing but debts, aggregating

all the way from $500,000,000 to $1,000,000,000, or more, according to

the percentage of reserves the banks holding them may be carrying.

MR. BANKER: I would impose a tax of 10 per cent per day on every bank

note that any bank in the United States holds as a part of its required

reserves. It would not take long to force the substitution of gold

coin, gold certificates, or other lawful reserves in place of these

I.O. U.'s of the National banks.

MR. MANUFACTURER: During our discussions it has been demonstrated to

me, at least, and I am sure to all, that there is in fact no more

justification, economically speaking, for holding United States notes,

or greenbacks, as a part of the reserve of a bank than National bank

notes. Do you think it is wise to continue these United States notes

indefinitely, as a part of our bank reserves?

MR. BANKER: I certainly do not. They are not only unfit for bank

reserves, but are teaching economic lies every day that they remain out.

You are aware, I have no doubt, that the banks of this country,

generally, are paying interest upon their deposits; probably as much

as 2 per cent upon the average. I would impose a tax of 2 per cent upon

our bank note issues, because banking is carried on upon about that

basis. If a bank pays 2 per cent upon deposits, and 2 per cent upon its

notes outstanding, the burden is precisely the same upon both forms of

bank credits.

I would use a part of this 2 per cent tax upon the bank notes, which

would amount to approximately $25,000,000, for these purposes:

_First_: To pay the expenses of the several commercial zones and the

American Reserve Bank.

_Second: I would pay into the interest department of the United States

Treasury an amount equal to 1 per cent per annum upon the $730,000,000

2 per cent United States bonds; so that the Government could convert

these 2 per cent bonds into 3 per cent bonds, and return them to the

banks to whom they belong._

_Third_: Whatever cash I had left I would use to convert the United

States notes into gold certificates.

In the course of fifteen, at the outside twenty years, I figure, we

would be able to convert all of the United States notes into gold

certificates, and leave our banks with reserves of gold alone, with

the exception of the subsidiary coin, which would, of course, be only

nominal in amount.

No one will deny that this would be a most desirable thing to

accomplish.

MR. FARMER: No, I don't think that anyone would make such a fool of

himself as to argue or contend that that would be a bad thing any way,

and you seem to have a very simple method of bringing it about.

MR. LAWYER: I noticed that you said that the tax of 2 per cent upon the

bank notes would produce about $25,000,000 a year. How do you make that

out, when we have only $750,000,000 of bank notes out? That would give

us only $15,000,000.

MR. BANKER: I am glad you asked that question. You see that if the

banks now outside the National system came into it as they certainly

would, because of the very great advantages it would give them, they

would have to increase their reserves at least 10 per cent upon their

individual or commercial accounts, and 5 per cent upon their savings

accounts. This they would do by simply exchanging their bank notes

for gold coin and gold certificates, as they came in over the bank

counter. The result would be an increase of our bank reserves to about

$500,000,000, and of course a corresponding increase of our bank

liabilities. No one would deny that this would be a sound banking

proposition. For, our individual deposit liabilities, which are now

$17,000,000,000, would be increased to only seventeen billion five

hundred million dollars ($17,500,000,000), an increase of only 3 per

cent, while our reserves, which now amount to about $1,600,000,000,

would be increased by $500,000,000, or nearly 33 per cent.

MR. LAWYER: I see, then, that you propose to increase the note issue

about $500,000,000. This would give us a note issue of $1,250,000,000,

and 2 per cent of this would be $25,000,000.

We had a chart here the other night and some figures, which showed that

the increase and decrease of the bank note currency in Canada amounted

to $3.80/100 per capita every fall, and that every year, for a number

of years, so far as we have the record at least, exactly on the 15th

day of October, it was always at its maximum. Since we are now taking

back from Canada what Canada originally took from Massachusetts, the

principle of a true bank credit currency, we might expect just what

they had in New England, before the war, and what Canada now has every

year, and every month of the year, and every day of the month. That is,

we would have an amount of bank note currency just equal to the demands

of trade; no more, no less, but always just what the business of the

country requires, dollar for dollar, day in and day out. Am I correct?

MR. BANKER: You are absolutely correct. Our variation in the demands

of currency would not differ very much from that of Canada. We might

expect a difference between the maximum and minimum issue of about

$350,000,000 a year, that is, it ought to range from about one billion

dollars to about one billion three hundred and fifty million dollars

during each year, as matters now stand.

MR. LAWYER: Well, if that is true, we should never know one season of

the year from another, so far as the demands of currency are concerned.

MR. BANKER: No, you never would; and the facilities gained by the banks

for adjusting themselves to the changing conditions would enable them

to be far more helpful to their customers than they now are, and yet be

absolutely safe in doing so. You see, I would not limit a bank to an

amount of currency equal to its capital; but subject to the approval

of the Board of Control, where the bank was located, it could issue as

much more, or a total of 200 per cent of its capital. That is twice as

much as its capital; for, there are banks today situated a good deal as

the New England banks were before the war, where the people would use

more bank notes than deposits, if they were permitted to study their

own convenience. This we would find to be true in the newer parts of

the cotton growing country in cotton picking times. Can anyone tell why

a bank, under such circumstances, should not meet the peculiar demands

of its customers, and furnish bank notes at a cost of one-sixth of what

it must be, if the bank is compelled, as it is today, to rediscount its

promissory notes, and buy gold certificates or United States notes to

be used as currency, when its own bank notes would answer every purpose

of currency just as well?

MR. LAWYER: Then I understand also from what you said upon another

occasion that you would allow a bank to use a part of its reserves

during those seasons of the year when the demand for money was

particularly strong, and make up its average reserves when the demand

was slight.

MR. BANKER: Precisely so. Why should not a bank act just like any other

merchant or trader, and adjust its stock of goods to the ever-changing

conditions of its business? Of course I am fully aware that there is

one element entering into a bank's business that is not common to other

mercantile houses, and that is the question of its credit. It must

keep itself in such a position at all times as to preclude the chance

of suspicion arising about its ability to meet its demand obligations.

This point brings me squarely up to the matter of a central reserve.

A bank that is known to be under the supervision of a Board of Control,

which can and ought to know its actual condition, and which has the

power to compel it to so conduct its business, as to be entitled to

consideration and accommodation, whenever it asks for it, and actually

needs it, will certainly have the confidence of the public to an

unbounded degree. Of course, I am assuming that the public are aware

of the fact that the Board of Control in turn has access to the great

central reserve of one billion two hundred and fifty million dollars

($1,250,000,000).

You can imagine that the public under such circumstances would have

absolute confidence in a bank. Indeed, I am of the opinion that as soon

as this organization is effected, bank failures would be a thing of

the past, because the public would soon come to appreciate this, and

look upon every bank in the system as safe beyond the peradventure of a

doubt.

MR. FARMER: There would be every reason for confidence in such an

institution because of its great strength; and yet, if I understand

your plan, as outlined, every one of these individual zones would be

as independent of every other zone as if it were a foreign country. It

would be like a great bank standing alone, of which every bank within

the zone was an integral part, for the purpose of the defense of the

credit of each. Then again, every individual bank would remain just as

independent as it is today, while at the same time it enjoyed the full

confidence which the larger institution would be naturally entitled to.

MR. BANKER: That is precisely the result this coöperative reserve fund

of one billion two hundred and fifty million dollars ($1,250,000,000)

would produce.

MR. LAWYER: _Then, as I understand it, beyond the individual

independent bank, and beyond and behind the individual independent

zone, would be "The American Reserve Bank," standing guard over the

commercial interests of the whole United States, ready at any time to

meet any possible contingency that might arise in any section of the

country, with practically unlimited power to release, hold, or recall

gold from the four quarters of the globe, because it can place a price

upon the use of gold in the form of interest, and so conserve the

general welfare of American commerce and American labor._

MR. BANKER: Now, gentlemen, let me call your attention to five

important results we have achieved in the development of this outline

of our proposed structure.

_First_: You will observe that every bank in the United States will be

completely freed from every dominating influence, because in the last

analysis it will have access to a practically inexhaustible hoard or

reserve of gold, which belongs to itself as much as to any other bank.

_Second_: You will note that every commercial zone is a perfect

and complete self-governing body. Not a single outside person has

anything whatever to do with its affairs. Every person who is in any

way connected with it, is selected by its members, even including

the Deputy United States Comptroller, who will be, as you remember,

the Chairman of the Board of Control, and President of the Bankers'

Council. In principle and in function this organization is identical

with that of the Bank of the State of Indiana, and of the State Bank of

Iowa, in which you will remember the parent, or home institution, did

no business whatever, except for the branches, which it examined and

supervised.

_Third_: You will note that in the matter of issuing currency, it

follows the principle of bank credit currency in operation today in

Canada, with the added power, subject to the approval of the Board of

Control, of doubling the issue to meet unusual demands of trade or in

case of an emergency.

_Fourth_: You will observe that we have planned to reach ultimately a

system of reserves consisting of gold, exclusively, and also to keep

all bank credits, both deposits and note issues, in constant touch with

gold by paying gold whenever called for.

_Fifth_: That in the matter of a strong central gold reserve, you will

observe that the plan follows the principle in force at the Bank of

England where all transactions are in gold, making England the only

truly free market for gold in the world.

Gentlemen, I am convinced that it is the natural right and present

opportunity of the United States to become the financial centre of

the world; but no country can ever become the financial centre of the

world, unless it is a free market for gold. No country can be a free

market for gold, unless its entire credit system is based upon gold,

and gold alone, thereby guaranteeing unquestioned bills of exchange.

Such bills would draw a rate as low as the lowest because protected

by a gold fund of such magnitude, when considered from the standpoint

of its obligations to the commerce of the country, where held, all

conditions being considered, as to insure beyond question its ability

to take and give gold, as necessity requires in international trade,

without endangering its stability, or affecting its credit.

This result can only be achieved by enforcing the discount rate

throughout the country involved; and the discount rate can only be

enforced throughout the country involved by buying and selling bills

of exchange in straight gold transactions. We should not trade one

bank credit for another bank credit, and put this bank credit into our

bank reserves, as the Aldrich scheme proposed, thereby driving gold out

of the banks, and out of the country, and also utterly destroying our

power to control and protect the cash gold reserves of our banks, which

outside of what may be called subsidiary money (from $2 pieces down),

should ultimately and always be _gold and gold alone_.

In conclusion, I submit that the whole plan as we've worked it out

does not introduce a single foreign element but creates out of our own

practices, which have developed out of our own peculiar conditions, a

financial and banking system, founded upon sound economic principles.

It gradually eliminates those errors that have crept into our

financial and banking practices, possibly through supposed necessity,

but certainly through ignorance; and yet, the present incoherent

conglomerate condition is brought to a simplicity and strength that may

safely challenge any country in the world to institute a comparison for

economy, efficiency, strength and safety.

MR. MERCHANT: Gentlemen, if you will achieve the results that you have

outlined in the course of this evening's talk, you will accomplish all

and precisely what Mr. MacVeagh, Secretary of the Treasury, recently

described as the ends that must be attained if we are to bring about a

complete financial and banking reform. These are his words:

"A relief measure reforming the banking and currency system must

include, among its necessary features, provisions for never-failing

reserves and never-failing currency, and for the perfect elasticity

and flexibility of both; for the permanent organization and organized

coöperation of the banks, which are now suffering and causing the

nation to suffer by reason of their unorganized state; for a central

agency, to represent and act for the organized and coöperative

banks--this agency to be securely free from political or trust control,

but with the Government having adequate and intimate supervision

of it; for independent banking units--so independent that no one

bank can be owned, controlled, or shared in in any degree, directly

or indirectly, by any other bank; for the equality of all banks,

National or State, both as to standards and as to functions--so that

every requirement made of a National bank must be complied with

equally by a State bank, and every function or privilege enjoyed by a

State bank shall be enjoyed by a National bank; for the utilization

and the fluidity of bank assets; for the scientific development of

exchanges--domestic and foreign; for foreign banking as an adjunct of

our foreign commerce, and for taking the Treasury Department out of the

banking business."

MR. FARMER: Well, you have forgotten the thing that interests me more,

generally speaking, than all else, and that is the Land Credit Bank,

which we went into last Wednesday night. Of course you intend to

include this when you prepare your bill.

UNCLE SAM: You bet they will, for I think it's about time that the

corn raiser, cotton planter and grain producer and all the rest of the

toilers of the turf, should be getting their money at as low rates as

anybody else on first-class security for a long period of time, and I

am determined to give the farmers of the country the benefit of my good

name to aid them in this matter.

MR. BANKER: Of course we had all agreed to that, and shall include it

in the draft of the bill.

MR. MANUFACTURER: Uncle Sam, I move that Mr. Banker, Mr. Lawyer, and

Mr. Farmer be a committee of three to prepare a bill to be submitted to

us next Wednesday evening.

MR. MERCHANT: I second the motion.

UNCLE SAM: It's a go.

Good Night.

SIXTEENTH NIGHT

DRAFT OF BILL

UNCLE SAM: Well, boys, here we are ready for the report of the

committee on legislation, I suppose you would call it. Are you ready to

report now?

MR. FARMER: Yes, Mr. Lawyer will make our report and speak for the

committee.

MR. LAWYER: Uncle Sam, your committee has been deeply impressed with

the duty you have imposed upon it.

That the solution and settlement of our financial and banking problem

is the most important economic question that has ever confronted the

civilized world must be admitted by all who will take the trouble to

investigate it and institute a comparison between our conditions and

those of any other country at the time when it adopted its financial

and banking system.

In 1803, when the Bank of France was established, the financial

resources of France were without official record, but comparatively

nominal.

In 1844, when the bank act under which the Bank of England is conducted

was enacted, the banking resources of that country were probably in

the neighborhood of $500,000,000. The total note issue of England,

Scotland, and Ireland was less than $200,000,000; the public and

private deposits in the Bank of England were less than $75,000,000; and

the gold in the Bank of England was less than $75,000,000.

In 1873, when the Imperial Bank of Germany took its present form,

industrial Germany was still slumbering; and the bank resources

probably did not exceed $1,000,000,000. The capital of the incorporated

banks was about $425,000,000, the notes were about $325,000,000, and

the reserves held about $30,000,000.

The banking resources of the United States are today more than

($25,000,000,000) twenty-five thousand million dollars and our foreign

trade more than ($4,000,000,000) four thousand million dollars.

The question we are dealing with, therefore, is not only the most

stupendous of its kind, but it must be considered both from a domestic

and foreign point of view. It is from both these points of view that we

have approached the preparation of this measure.

As I proceed to read the bill I shall make some comment by way of

explanation in order that our purpose may be understood.

A bill to establish a complete Financial and Banking system for the

United States of America.

SECTION 1. _Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of

the United States of America in Congress assembled_, That a complete

financial and banking system for the United States of America shall be,

and is hereby, created, organized, and established as follows:

_First_: The commercial zone.

_Second_: The bankers' council.

_Third_: The board of control.

_Fourth_: The American Reserve Bank.

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