TILDEN AND A "WORLD" REPORTER

(WHY HE DID NOT TAKE THE OATH AS PRESIDENT)

"_1878-9._

"Last Friday evening a reporter of the _World_ visited Mr. Tilden

in his Gramercy Park mansion, and was accorded a brief interview in

the commodious and well-appointed library of that distinguished

gentleman. Mr. Tilden looked well, and conversed with all his

old-time fire and interest.

"'Of course, I have come to see you by instructions respecting the

story that General Woodford related to Mr. Mines, and that the

latter gentleman has related to the public through the _World_.'

"'I have not read it through. A friend told me of its substance this

morning while I was down-town. But I am averse to talking about

these insignificant matters.'

"'Nothing can be insignificant, Mr. Tilden, that concerns your

relations to the Presidency or its relations to the public. What

the _World_ mainly wishes to know is whether or not you at any time

purposed taking the oath as President.'

"'At any time'--musingly. 'Certainly, if the House had declared me

elected. Then I should have had a certificate--a title. But after

the electoral scheme, which I always opposed, was complete--although

advised that I might so as to raise the question--I never for a

moment entertained the idea of taking the oath of office either

in Washington or in New York or elsewhere. It would have been

ridiculous. I have no evidence of title then--no claim--no warrant.'

"'Then you do not believe General Grant intended to arrest or detain

you?'

"'How can I tell what General Grant intended? All I can tell you

is what I intended as the representative of the people who, by

nearly half a million majority on the popular vote, elected me their

President.'

"'Is there anything more in the story you would wish to speak of?'

"'I have not thoroughly read it. Besides, as the pivot of the story

is my intention to challenge an issue by taking the oath of office,

is not the story substantially disposed of when I tell you that

there is no real pivot?'"

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