"Iffen we took sick, old Aunt Becky was de doctor. They was a building

like what they calls a hospital and she put us in there and give us

calomel or turpentine, dependin' on what ailed us. They allus kep' the

babies there and let de mammies come in and suckle and dry 'em up.

"I never heered much 'bout no war and Marse Greenville never told us we

was free. First I knows was one day we gwine to de fields and a man come

ridin' up and say, 'Whar you folks gwine?' We say we gwine to de fields

and then he say to Marse Greenville, 'You can't work these people,

without no pay, 'cause they's as free as you is.' Law, we sho' shout,

young folks and old folks too. But we stay there, no place to go, so we

jes' stay, but we gits a little pay.

"After 'while I marries. Allen Kelley was de first husban' what I ever

owned and he die. Houston Edmond, he the las' husban' I ever owned and

he die, too.

"Law me, they used to be a sayin' that chillen born on de dark of de

moon ain't gwineter have no luck, and I guess I sho' was born then!"

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[Illustration: Sam Kilgore]

SAM KILGORE, 92, was born a slave of John Peacock, of Williams

County, Tennessee, who owned one of the largest plantations in the

south. When he was eight years old, Sam accompanied his master to

England for a three-year stay. Sam was in the Confederate Army and

also served in the Spanish-American War. He came to Fort Worth in

1889 and learned cement work. In 1917 he started a cement

contracting business which he still operates. He lives at 1211 E.

Cannon St., Fort Worth, Texas.

"You asks me when I's born and was I born a slave. Well, I's born on

July 17, 1845, so I's a slave for twenty years, and had three massas.

I's born in Williamson County, near Memphis, in Tennessee. Massa John

Peacock owned de plantation and am it de big one! Dere am a thousand

acres and 'bout a thousand slaves.

"De slave cabins am in rows, twenty in de first row and eighteen in de

second and sixteen in de third. Den dere am house servants quarters near

de big house. De cabins am logs and not much in dem but homemade tables

and benches and bunks 'side de wall. Each family has dere own cabin and

sometimes dere am ten or more in de family, so it am kind of crowded.

But massa am good and let dem have de family life, and once each week de

rations am measure out by a old darky what have charge de com'sary, and

dere am allus plenty to eat.

"But dem eats ain't like nowadays. It am home-cured meat and mostly

cornmeal, but plenty veg'tables and 'lasses and brown sugar. Massa

raised lots of hawgs, what am Berkshires and Razorbacks. Razorback meat

am 'sidered de best and sweetest.

"De work stock am eighty head of mules and fifty head of hosses and

fifteen yoke of oxen. It took plenty feed for all dem and massa have de

big field of corn, far as we could see. De plantation am run on system

and everything clean and in order, not like lots of plantations with

tools scattered 'round and dirt piles here and there. De chief overseer

am white and de second overseers am black. Stien was nigger overseer in

de shoemakin' and harness, and Aunty Darkins am overseer of de spinnin'

and weavin'.

"Dat place am so well manage dat whippin's am not nec'sary. Massa have

he own way of keepin' de niggers in line. If dey bad he say, 'I 'spect

dat nigger driver comin' round tomorrow and I's gwine sell you.' Now,

when a nigger git in de hands of de nigger driver it am de big chance

he'll git sold to de cruel massa, and dat make de niggers powerful

skeert, so dey 'haves. On de next plantation we'd hear de niggers

pleadin' when dey's whipped, 'Massa, have mercy,' and sich. Our massa

allus say, 'Boys, you hears dat mis'ry and we don't want no sich on dis

place and it am up to you.' So us all 'haves ourselves.

"When I's four years old I's took to de big house by young Massa Frank,

old massa's son. He have me for de errand boy and, I guess, for de

plaything. When I gits bigger I's his valet and he like me and I sho'

like him. He am kind and smart, too, and am choosed from nineteen other

boys to go to England and study at de mil'tary 'cademy. I's 'bout eight

when we starts for Liverpool. We goes from Memphis to Newport and takes

de boat, Bessie. It am a sailboat and den de fun starts for sho'. It am

summer and not much wind and sometimes we jus' stand still day after day

in de fog so thick we can't see from one end de boat to de other.

"I'll never forgit dat trip. When we gits far out on de water, I's dead

sho' we'll never git back to land again. First I takes de seasick and

dat am something. If there am anything worser it can't be stood! It

ain't possible to 'splain it, but I wants to die, and if dey's anything

worser dan dat seasick mis'ry, I says de Lawd have mercy on dem. I can't

'lieve dere am so much stuff in one person, but plenty come out of me. I

mos' raised de ocean! When dat am over I gits homesick and so do Massa

Frank. I cries and he tries to 'sole me and den he gits tears in he

eyes. We am weeks on dat water, and good old Tennessee am allus on our

mind.

"When we gits to England it am all right, but often we goes down to de

wharf and looks over de cotton bales for dat Memphis gin mark. Couple

times Massa Frank finds some and he say, 'Here a bale from home, Sam,'

with he voice full of joy like a kid what find some candy. We stands

round dat bale and wonders if it am raised on de plantation.

"But we has de good time after we gits 'quainted and I seed lots and

gits to know some West India niggers. But we's ready to come home and

when we gits dere it am plenty war. Massa Frank jines de 'Federate Army

and course I's his valet and goes with him, right over to Camp

Carpenter, at Mobile. He am de lieutenant under General Gordon and befo'

long dey pushes him higher. Fin'ly he gits notice he am to be a colonel

and dat sep'rates us, 'cause he has to go to Floridy. 'I's gwine with

you,' I says, for I thinks I 'longs to him and he 'longs to me and can't

nothing part us. But he say, 'You can't go with me this time. Dey's

gwine put you in de army.' Den I cries and he cries.

"I's seventeen years old when I puts my hand on de book and am a sojer.

I talks to my captain 'bout Massa Frank and wants to go to see him. But

it wasn't more'n two weeks after he leaves dat him was kilt. Dat am de

awful shock to me and it am a long time befo' I gits over it. I allus

feels if I'd been with him maybe I could save his life.

"My company am moved to Birmingham and builds breastworks. Dey say Gen.

Lee am comin' for a battle but he didn't ever come and when I been back

to see dem breastworks, dey never been used. We marches north to

Lexington, in Kentuck' but am gone befo' de battle to Louisville. We

comes back to Salem, in Georgia, but I's never in no big battle, only

some skirmishes now and den. We allus fixes for de battles and builds

bridges and doesn't fight much.

"I goes back after de war to Memphis. My mammy am on de Kilgore place

and Massa Kilgore takes her and my pappy and two hundred other slaves

and comes to Texas. Dat how I gits here. He settles at de place called

Kilgore, and it was named after him, but in 1867 he moves to Cleburne.

"Befo' we moved to Texas de Klu Kluxers done burn my mammy's house and

she lost everything. Dey was 'bout $100 in greenbacks in dat house and a

three hundred pound hawg in de pen, what die from de heat. We done run

to Massa Rodger's house. De riders gits so bad dey come most any time

and run de cullud folks off for no cause, jus' to be orn'ry and plunder

de home. But one day I seed Massa Rodgers take a dozen guns out his

wagon and he and some white men digs a ditch round de cotton field close

to de road. Couple nights after dat de riders come and when dey gits

near dat ditch a volley am fired and lots of dem draps off dey hosses.

Dat ended de Klux trouble in dat section.

"After I been in Texas a year I jines de Fed'ral Army for de Indian war.

I's in de transportation division and drives oxen and mules, haulin'

supplies to de forts. We goes to Fort Griffin and Dodge City and

Laramie, in Wyoming. Dere am allus two or three hundred sojers with us,

to watch for Indian attacks. Dey travels on hosses, 'head, 'side and

'hind de wagon. One day de Sent'nel reports Indians am round so we gits

hid in de trees and bresh. On a high ledge off to de west we sees de

Indians travelin' north, two abreast. De lieutenant say he counted 'bout

seven hundred but dey sho' missed us, or maybe I'd not be here today.

"I stays in de service for seven years and den goes back to Johnson

County, farmin' on de Rodgers place, and stays till I comes to Fort

Worth in 1889. Den I gits into 'nother war, de Spanish 'merican War. But

I's in de com'sary work so don't see much fightin'. In all dem wars I

sees most no fightin', 'cause I allus works with de supplies.

"After dat war I goes to work laborin' for buildin' contractors. I works

for sev'ral den gits with Mr. Bardon and larns de cement work with him.

He am awful good man to work for, dat John Bardon. Fin'ly I starts my

own cement business and am still runnin' it. My health am good and I's

allus on de job, 'cause dis home I owns has to be kept up. It cost

sev'ral thousand dollars and I can't 'ford to neglect it.

"I's married twict. I marries Mattie Norman in 1901 and sep'rates in

1904. She could spend more money den two niggers could shovel it in. Den

I marries Lottie Young in 1909, but dere am no chillens. I's never dat

lucky.

"I's voted ev'ry 'lection and 'lieves it de duty for ev'ry citizen to

vote.

"Now, I's told you everything from Genesis to Rev'lations, and it de

truth, as I 'members it.

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[Illustration: Ben Kinchlow]

BEN KINCHLOW, 91, was the son of Lizaer Moore, a half-white slave

owned by Sandy Moore, Wharton Co., and Lad Kinchlow, a white man.

When Ben was one year old his mother was freed and given some

money. She was sent to Matamoras, Mexico and they lived there and

at Brownsville, Texas, during the years before and directly

following the Civil War. Ben and his wife, Liza, now live in

Uvalde, Texas, in a neat little home. Ben has straight hair, a

Roman nose, and his speech is like that of the early white settler.

He is affable and enjoys recounting his experiences.

"I was birthed in 1846 in Wharton, Wharton County, in slavery times. My

mother's name was Lizaer Moore. I think her master's name was Sandy

Moore, and she went by his name. My father's name was Lad Kinchlow. My

mother was a half-breed Negro; my father was a white man of that same

county. I don't know anything about my father. He was a white man, I

know that. After I was borned and was one year old, my mother was set

free and sent to Mexico to live. When we left Wharton, we was sent away

in an ambulance. It was an old-time ambulance. It was what they called

an ambulance--a four-wheeled concern pulled by two mules. That is what

they used to traffic in. The big rich white folks would get in it and go

to church or on a long journey. We landed safely into Matamoros, Mexico,

just me and my mother and older brother. She had the means to live on

till she got there and got acquainted. We stayed there about twelve

years. Then we moved back to Brownsville and stayed there until after

all Negroes were free. She went to washing and she made lots of money at

it. She charged by the dozen. Three or four handkerchiefs were

considered a piece. She made good because she got $2.50 a dozen for men

washing and $5 a dozen for women's clothes.

"I was married in February, 1879, to Christiana Temple, married at

Matagorda, Matagorda County. I had six children by my first wife. Three

boys and three girls. Two girls died. The other girl is in Gonzales

County. Lawrence is here workin' on the Kincaid Ranch and Andrew is

workin' for John Monagin's dairy and Henry is seventy miles from Alpine.

He's a highway boss. This was my first wife. Now I am married again and

have been with this wife forty years. Her name was Eliza Dawson. No

children born to this union.

"The way we lived in those days--the country was full of wild game,

deer, wild hogs, turkey, duck, rabbits, 'possum, lions, quails, and so

forth. You see, in them days they was all thinly settled and they was

all neighbors. Most settlements was all Meskins mostly; of course there

was a few white people. In them days the country was all open and a man

could go in there and settle down wherever he wanted to and wouldn't be

molested a-tall. They wasn't molested till they commenced putting these

fences and putting up these barbwire fences. You could ride all day and

never open a gate. Maybe ride right up to a man's house and then just

let down a bar or two.

"Sometime when we wanted fresh meat we went out and killed. We also

could kill a calf or goat whenever we cared to because they were plenty

and no fence to stop you. We also had plenty milk and butter and

home-made cheese. We did not have much coffee. You know the way we made

our coffee? We just taken corn and parched it right brown and ground it

up. Whenever we would get up furs and hides enough to go into market, a

bunch of neighbors would get together and take ten to fifteen deer hides

each and take 'em in to Brownsville and sell 'em and get their

supplies. They paid twenty-five cents a pound for them. That's when we

got our coffee, but we'd got so used to using corn-coffee, we didn't

care whether we had that real coffee so much, because we had to be

careful with our supplies, anyway. My recollection is that it was fifty

cents a pound and it would be green coffee and you would have to roast

it and grind it on a mill. We didn't have any sugar, and very rare thing

to have flour. The deer was here by the hundreds. There was blue

quail--my goodness! You could get a bunch of these blue top-knot quail

rounded up in a bunch of pear and, if they was any rocks, you could kill

every one of 'em. If you could hit one and get 'im to fluttering the

others would bunch around him and you could kill every one of 'em with

rocks.

"We lived very neighborly. When any of the neighbors killed fresh meat

we always divided with one another. We all had a corn patch, about three

or four acres. We did not have plows; we planted with a hoe. We were

lucky in raisin' corn every year. Most all the neighbors had a little

bunch of goats, cows, mares, and hogs. Our nearest market was forty

miles, at old Brownsville. When I was a boy I wo'e what was called

shirt-tail. It was a long, loose shirt with no pants. I did not wear

pants until I was about ten or twelve. The way we got our supplies, all

the neighbors would go in together and send into town in a dump cart

drawn by a mule. The main station was at Brownsville. It was thirty-five

miles from where they'd change horses. They carried this mail to

Edinburg, and it took four days. Sometimes they'd ride a horse or mule.

We'd get our mail once a week. We got our mail at Brownsville.

"The country was very thinly settled then and of very few white people;

most all Meskins, living on the border. The country was open, no fences.

Every neighbor had a little place. We didn't have any plows; we planted

with a hoe and went along and raked the dirt over with our toes. We had

a grist mill too. I bet I've turned one a million miles. There was no

hired work then. When a man was hired he got $10 or $12 per month, and

when people wanted to brand or do other work, all the neighbors went

together and helped without pay. The most thing that we had to fear was

Indians and cattle rustlers and wild animals.

"While I was yet on the border, the plantation owners had to send their

cotton to the border to be shipped to other parts, so it was transferred

by Negro slaves as drivers. Lots of times, when these Negroes got there

and took the cotton from their wagon, they would then be persuaded to go

across the border by Meskins, and then they would never return to their

master. That is how lots of Negroes got to be free. The way they used to

transfer the cotton--these big cotton plantations east of here--they'd

take it to Brownsville and put it on the wharf and ship it from there. I

can remember seeing, during the cotton season, fifteen or twenty teams

hauling cotton, sometimes five or six, maybe eight bales on a wagon. You

see, them steamboats used to run all up and down that river. I think

this cotton went out to market at New Orleans and went right out into

the Gulf.

"Our house was a log cabin with a log chimney da'bbed with mud. The

cabin was covered with grass for a roof. The fireplace was the kind of

stove we had. Mother cooked in Dutch ovens. Our main meal was corn bread

and milk and grits with milk. That was a little bit coarser than meal.

The way we used to cook it and the best flavored is to cook it

out-of-doors in a Dutch oven. We called 'em corn dodgers. Now ash cakes,

you have your dough pretty stiff and smooth off a place in the ashes and

lay it right on the ashes and cover it up with ashes and when it got

done, you could wipe every bit of the ashes off, and get you some butter

and put on it. M-m-m! I tell you, its fine! There is another way of

cookin' flour bread without a skillet or a stove, is to make up your

dough stiff and roll it out thin and cut it in strips and roll it on a

green stick and just hold it over the coals, and it sure makes good

bread. When one side cooks too fast, you can just turn it over, and have

your stick long enough to keep it from burnin' your hands. How come me

to learn this was: One time we were huntin' horse stock and there was

an outfit along and the pack mule that was packed with our provisions

and skillets and coffee pots and things--we never did carry much stuff,

not even no beddin'--the pack turned on the mule and we lost our skillet

and none of us knowed it at the time. All of us was cooks, but that old

Meskin that was along was the only one that knew how to cook bread that

way. Sometimes we would be out six weeks or two months on a general

round-up, workin' horse stock; the country would just be alive with

cattle, and horses too. We used to have lots of fun on those drives.

"I tell you, I didn't enjoy that 'court' at night. They got so tough on

us you couldn't spit in camp, couldn't use no cuss words--they would

sure 'put the leggin's on you' if you did!"

Uncle Ben hitched his chair, and with much chuckling, recalled the

"kangaroo court" the cowboys used to hold at night in camp. These

impromptu courts were often all the fun the cowboys had during the long

weeks of hunting stock in the open range country.

"Oh, it was all in fun. Just catch somebody so we could hold court! They

would have two or three as a jury. They would use me as sheriff and

appoint a judge. The prisoner was turned over to the judge and whatever

he said, it had to be carried out exactly. The penalty? Well,

sometimes--it was owing to the crime--but sometimes they would put it up

to about twenty licks with the leggin's. If they was any bendin' trees,

they would lay you across the log. They got tough, all right, but we

sure had fun. We had to salute the boss every mornin', and if we forgot

it...! They never forgot it that night; you'd sure get tried in court.

"We camped on the side of a creek one time, and we had a new man, a sort

of green fellow. This new man unsaddled his horse by the side of the

creek and he lay down there. He had on a big pair of spurs, and I was

watchin' him and studyin' up some kind of prank to play on 'im. So I

went and got me a string and tied one of his spurs to his saddle and

then I told the boss what I'd done and he had one of the fellows put a

saddle on and tie tin cups and pots on it and then they commenced

shootin' and yellin'. This man with the saddle on went pitchin' right

toward that fellow, and that man got up, scared to death, and started to

run. He run the length of the string and then fell down, but he didn't

take time to get up; he went runnin' on his all-fours as fur as he

could, till he drug the saddle to where it hung up. He woulda run right

into the creek, but the saddle held 'im back. We didn't hold kangaroo

court over that! Nobody knowed who did it. Of course, they all knowed,

but they didn't let on. But nobody ever got in a bad humor; it didn't do

no good.

"I've stood up of many a bad night, dozin'. It would be two weeks,

sometimes, before we got to lay down on our beds. I have stood up

between the wagon wheel and the bed (of the wagon) and dozed many a

night. Maybe one or two men would come in and doze an hour or two, but

if the cattle were restless and ready to run, we had to be ready right

now. Sho! Those stormy nights thunderin' and lightnin'! You could just

see the lightnin' all over the steers' horns and your horse's ears and

mane too. It would dangle all up and down his mane. It never interfered

with =you= a-tall. And you could see it around the steer's horns in the

herd, the lightnin' would dangle all over 'em. If the hands (cowboys) or

the relief could get to 'em before they got started to runnin', they

could handle 'em; but if they got started first, they would be pretty

hard to handle.

"The first ranch I worked on after I left McNelly was on the =Banqueta= on

the =Agua Dulce= Creek for the Miley boys, putting up a pasture fence. I

worked there about two months, diggin' post holes. From there to the

King Ranch for about four months, breaking horses. I kept travelin' east

till I got back to Wharton, where my mother was. She died there in

Wharton. I didn't stay with her very long. I went down to =Tres Palacios=

in Matagorda County. I did pasture work there, and cattle work. I worked

for Mr. Moore for twelve years. Then he moved to Stockdale and I worked

for him there eight years. From there, after I got through with Mr.

Moore, I went back to =Tres Palacios= and I worked there for first one man

and then another. I think we have been here at Uvalde for about

twenty-three years.

"I've been the luckiest man in the world to have gone through what I

have and not get hurt. I have never had but two horses to fall with me.

I could ride all day right now and never tire. You never hear me say,

'I'm tired, I'm sleepy, I'm hongry.' And out in camp you never see me

lay down when I come in to camp, or set down to eat, and if I =do=, I set

down on my foot. I always get my plate in my hand and eat standin' up,

or lean against the wagon, maybe.

"When Cap'n. McNelly taken sick and resigned, I traveled east and picked

up jobs of work on ranches. The first work after I left the Rio Grande

was on the =Banqueta=, and then I went to work on the King Ranch about

fifty miles southeast (?) of Brownsville. It wasn't fixed up in them

days like it is now. But the territory is like it was then. They worked

all Meskin hands. They were working about twenty-five or thirty Meskins

at the headquarters' ranch. And the main =caporal= was a Meskin. His wages

was top wages and he got twelve dollars a month. And the hands, if you

was a real good hand, you got seven or eight dollars a month, and they

would give you rations. They would furnish you all the meat you wanted

and furnish you corn, but you would have to grind it yourself for bread.

You know, like the Meskins make on a =metate=. You could have all the

home-made cheese you want, and milk. In them days, the Meskins didn't

have sense enough to make butter. I seen better times them days than I

am seein' now. We just had a home livin'. You could go out any time and

kill you anything you wanted--turkeys, hogs, javalinas, deer, 'coons,

'possums, quail.

"I'll tell you about a Meskin ranch I worked on. It was a big lake. It

covered, I reckin, fifty acres, and these little Meskin huts just

surrounded that big lake. And fish! My goodness, you could just go down

there and throw your hook in without a bait and catch a fish. That was

what you call the =Laguna de Chacona=. That was out from Brownsville

about thirty-five miles. That ranch was owned by the old Meskin named

Chacon, where the lake got its name.

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