MARTIN JACKSON, who calls himself a "black Texan", well deserves to

select a title of more distinction, for it is quite possible that

he is the only living former slave who served in both the Civil War

and the World War. He was born in bondage in Victoria Co., Texas,

in 1847, the property of Alvy Fitzpatrick. This self-respecting

Negro is totally blind, and when a person touches him on the arm to

guide him he becomes bewildered and asks his helper to give verbal

directions, up, down, right or left. It may be he has been on his

own so long that he cannot, at this late date, readjust himself to

the touch of a helping hand. His mind is uncommonly clear and he

speaks with no Negro colloquialisms and almost no dialect.

Following directions as to where to find Martin Jackson, "the most

remarkable Negro in San Antonio," a researcher made his way to an old

frame house at 419 Center St., walked up the steps and through the house

to an open door of a rear room. There, on an iron bed, lay a long, thin

Negro, smoking a cigarette. He was dressed in a woolen undershirt and

black trousers and his beard and mustache were trimmed much after the

fashion of white gallants of the Gay Nineties. His head was remarkably

well-shaped, with striking eminences in his forehead over his brows.

After a moment the intruder spoke and announced his mission. The old

Negro, who is stone blind, quickly admitted that he was Martin Jackson,

but before making any further comment he carried on an efficient

interview himself; he wanted to know who the caller was, who had

directed the visit, and just what branch of the Federal service happened

to be interested in the days of slavery. These questions satisfactorily

answered, he went into his adventures and experiences, embellishing the

highlights with uncommon discernment and very little prodding by the

researcher.

* * * * *

"I have about 85 years of good memory to call on. I'm ninety, and so I'm

not counting my first five years of life. I'll try to give you as clear

a picture as I can. If you want to give me a copy of what you are going

to write, I'll appreciate it. Maybe some of my children would like to

have it.

"I was here in Texas when the Civil War was first talked about. I was

here when the War started and followed my young master into it with the

First Texas Cavalry. I was here during reconstruction, after the War. I

was here during the European World War and the second week after the

United States declared war on Germany I enlisted as cook at Camp Leon

Springs.

"This sounds as if I liked the war racket. But, as a matter of fact, I

never wore a uniform--grey coat or khaki coat--or carried a gun, unless

it happened to be one worth saving after some Confederate soldier got

shot. I was official lugger-in of men that got wounded, and might have

been called a Red Cross worker if we had had such a corps connected with

our company. My father was head cook for the battalion and between times

I helped him out with the mess. There was some difference in the food

served to soldiers in 1861 and 1917!

"Just what my feelings was about the War, I have never been able to

figure out myself. I knew the Yanks were going to win, from the

beginning. I wanted them to win and lick us Southerners, but I hoped

they was going to do it without wiping out our company. I'll come back

to that in a minute. As I said, our company was the First Texas Cavalry.

Col. Buchell was our commander. He was a full-blooded German and as fine

a man and a soldier as you ever saw. He was killed at the Battle of

Marshall and died in my arms. You may also be interested to know that my

old master, Alvy Fitzpatrick, was the grandfather of Governor Jim

Ferguson.

"Lots of old slaves closes the door before they tell the truth about

their days of slavery. When the door is open, they tell how kind their

masters was and how rosy it all was. You can't blame them for this,

because they had plenty of early discipline, making them cautious about

saying anything uncomplimentary about their masters. I, myself, was in a

little different position than most slaves and, as a consequence, have

no grudges or resentment. However, I can tell you the life of the

average slave was not rosy. They were dealt out plenty of cruel

suffering.

"Even with my good treatment, I spent most of my time planning and

thinking of running away. I could have done it easy, but my old father

used to say, 'No use running from bad to worse, hunting better.' Lots of

colored boys did escape and joined the Union army, and there are plenty

of them drawing a pension today. My father was always counseling me. He

said, 'Every man has to serve God under his own vine and fig tree.' He

kept pointing out that the War wasn't going to last forever, but that

our forever was going to be spent living among the Southeners, after

they got licked. He'd cite examples of how the whites would stand

flatfooted and fight for the blacks the same as for members of their own

family. I knew that all was true, but still I rebelled, from inside of

me. I think I really was afraid to run away, because I thought my

conscience would haunt me. My father knew I felt this way and he'd rub

my fears in deeper. One of his remarks still rings in my ears: 'A clear

conscience opens bowels, and when you have a guilty soul it ties you up

and death will not for long desert you.'

"No, sir, I haven't had any education. I should have had one, though. My

old missus was sorry, after the War, that she didn't teach me. Her name,

before she married my old master, was Mrs. Long. She lived in New York

City and had three sons. When my old master's wife died, he wrote up to

a friend of his in New York, a very prominent merchant named C.C.

Stewart. He told this friend he wanted a wife and gave him

specifications for one. Well, Mrs. Long, whose husband had died, fitted

the bill and she was sent down to Texas. She became Mrs. Fitzpatrick.

She wasn't the grandmother of Governor Ferguson. Old Fitzpatrick had two

wives that preceded Mrs. Long. One of the wives had a daughter named

Fanny Fitzpatrick and it was her that was the Texas' governor's mother.

I seem to have the complicated family tree of my old master more clear

than I've got my own, although mine can be put in a nutshell: I married

only once and was blessed in it with 45 years of devotion. I had 13

children and a big crop of grandchildren.

"My earliest recollection is the day my old boss presented me to his

son, Joe, as his property. I was about five years old and my new master

was only two.

"It was in the Battle of Marshall, in Louisiana, that Col. Buchell got

shot. I was about three miles from the front, where I had pitched up a

kind of first-aid station. I was all alone there. I watched the whole

thing. I could hear the shooting and see the firing. I remember standing

there and thinking the South didn't have a chance. All of a sudden I

heard someone call. It was a soldier, who was half carrying Col. Buchell

in. I didn't do nothing for the Colonel. He was too far gone. I just

held him comfortable, and that was the position he was in when he

stopped breathing. That was the worst hurt I got when anybody died. He

was a friend of mine. He had had a lot of soldiering before and fought

in the Indian War.

"Well, the Battle of Marshall broke the back of the Texas Cavalry. We

began straggling back towards New Orleans, and by that time the War was

over. The soldiers began to scatter. They was a sorry-lookin' bunch of

lost sheep. They didn't know where to go, but most of 'em ended up

pretty close to the towns they started from. They was like homing

pigeons, with only the instinct to go home and, yet, most of them had no

homes to go to.

"No, sir, I never went into books. I used to handle a big dictionary

three times a day, but it was only to put it on a chair so my young

master could sit up higher at the table. I never went to school. I

learned to talk pretty good by associating with my masters in their big

house.

"We lived on a ranch of about 1,000 acres close to the Jackson County

line in Victoria County, about 125 miles from San Antonio. Just before

the war ended they sold the ranch, slaves and all, and the family, not

away fighting, moved to Galveston. Of course, my father and me wasn't

sold with the other blacks, because we was away at war. My mother was

drowned years before when I was a little boy. I only remember her after

she was dead. I can take you to the spot in the river today where she

was drowned. She drowned herself. I never knew the reason behind it, but

it was said she started to lose her mind and preferred death to that."

At this point in the old Negro's narrative the sound of someone singing

was heard. A moment later the door to the house slammed shut and in

accompaniment to the tread of feet in the kitchen came this song:

"I sing because I'm happy,

And I sing because I'm free--

His eyes is on the sparrow

And I know He watches me."

The singer glanced in the bedroom and the song ended with both

embarrassment and anger:

"Father! Why didn't you say you had callers?"

It was not long, however, before the singer, Mrs. Maggie Jackson,

daughter-in-law of old Martin Jackson, joined in the conversation.

"The master's name was usually adopted by a slave after he was set free.

This was done more because it was the logical thing to do and the

easiest way to be identified than it was through affection for the

master. Also, the government seemed to be in a almighty hurry to have us

get names. We had to register as someone, so we could be citizens. Well,

I got to thinking about all us slaves that was going to take the name

Fitzpatrick. I made up my mind I'd find me a different one. One of my

grandfathers in Africa was called Jeaceo, and so I decided to be

Jackson."

After this clear-headed Negro had posed for his photograph, the

researcher took his leave and the old blind man bade him a gracious

"good-bye." He stood as if watching his new friend walking away, and

then lighted a cigarette.

"How long have you been smoking, Martin?" called back the researcher.

"I picked up the deadly habit," answered Martin, "over seventy-five

years ago."

420137

NANCY JACKSON, about 105 years old, was born in Madison Co.,

Tennessee, a slave of the Griff Lacy family. She was married during

slavery and was the mother of three children when she was freed. In

1835, Nancy claims, she was brought to Texas by her owner, and has

lived in Panola Co. all her life. She has no proof of her age and,

of course, may be in the late nineties instead of over one hundred,

as she thinks. She lives with her daughter about five miles west of

Tatum, Tex.

"I's live in Panola County now going on 102 year and that a mighty long

time for to 'member back, but I'll try to rec'lect. I's born in

Tennessee and I think it's in 1830 or 1832. I lives with my baby chile

what am now 57 year old and she's born when I's 'bout 'bout 33. But I

ain't sho' 'bout my age, noways.

"Massa Griff fetches us to Texas when I a baby and my brudders what am

Redic and Anthony and Essex and Allen and Brick and my sisters what am

Ann and Matty and Charlotte, we all come to Texas. Mammy come with us

but pappy was sold off the Lacy place and stays in Tennessee.

"Massa had the bigges' house in them parts and a passel of slaves.

Mammy's name was Letha, and we have a purty good place to live and massa

not bad to us. We was treated fair, I guesses, but they allus whipped us

niggers for somethin'. But when we got sick they'd git the doctor,

'cause losin' a nigger like losin' a pile of money in them days.

"Massa sometimes outlines the Bible to us and we had a song what we'd

sing sometimes:

"'Stand your storm, Stand your storm,

Till the wind blows over,

Stand your storm, Stand your storm,

I's a sojer of the Cross,

A follower of the Lamb.'

"We was woke by a bell and called to eat by a bell and put to bed by

that bell and if that bell ring outta time you'd see the niggers jumpin'

rail fences and cotton rows like deers or something, gettin' to that

house, 'cause that mean something bad wrong at massa's house.

"I marries right here in Panola County while slavery still here and my

brother-in-law marries me and Lewis Blakely, and I's 'bout nineteen. My

husban' 'longed to the Blakely's and after the weddin' he had to go back

to them and they 'lowed him come to see me once a week on Saturday and

he could stay till Sunday. I works on for the Lacy's more'n a year after

slavery till Lewis come got me and we moved to ourselves.

"I 'member one big time we done have in slavery. Massa gone and he

wasn't gone. He left the house 'tendin' go on a visit and missy and her

chillen gone and us niggers give a big ball the night they all gone. The

leader of that ball had on massa's boots and he sing a song he make up:

"'Ole massa's gone to Philiman York

And won't be back till July 4th to come;

Fac' is, I don't know he'll be back at all,

Come on all you niggers and jine this ball.'

"That night they done give that big ball, massa had blacked up and slip

back in the house and while they singin' and dancin', he sittin' by the

fireplace all the time. 'Rectly he spit, and the nigger who had on he

boots recernizes him and tries climb up the chimmey."

420259

[Illustration: Richard Jackson]

RICHARD JACKSON, Harrison County farmer, was born in 1859, a slave

of Watt Rosborough. Richard's family left the Rosboroughs when the

Negroes were freed, and moved to a farm near Woodlawn. Richard

married when he was twenty-five and moved to an adjoining farm,

which he now owns.

"I was born on the Rosborough plantation in 1859 and 'longed to old man

Watt Rosborough. He brung my mammy out of North Carolina, but my pappy

died when I was a baby, and mammy married Will Jackson. Besides me they

was six brothers, Jack and Nathan, Josh and Bill and Ben and Mose. I had

three sisters named Matilda and Charity and Anna.

"I 'members my mammy's father, Jack, but don't know where he come from.

I heared him tell of fightin' the Indians on the frontier, and one

mammy's brothers was shot with a Indian arrow.

"The plantation jined the Sabine river and old man Watt owned many a

slave. The old home is still standin' cross the road from Rosborough

Springs, nine miles south of Marshall.

"They was a white overseer on the place and mammy's stepdaddy, Kit, was

niggerdriver and done all the whippin', 'cept of mammy. She was bad

'bout fightin' and the overseer allus tended to her. One day he come to

the quarters to whip her and she up and throwed a shovel full of live

coals from the fireplace in his bosom and run out the door. He run her

all over the place 'fore he cotched her. I seed the overseer tie her

down and whip her. The niggers wasn't whipped much 'cept for fightin'

'mongst themselves.

"I 'members mammy allus sayin' the darkies had to pray out in the woods,

'cause they ain't 'lowed to make no fuss round the house. She say they

was fed and clothed well 'nough, but the overseer worked the lights out

of the darkies. I wasn't big 'nough to do field work, but 'member goin'

to the field to take mammy's pipe to her. They wasn't no matches in them

days, and I allus took fire from the house and sot a stump afire in the

field, so mammy could light her pipe.

"None of our folks larnt to read and write till after slavery. My oldes'

brother was larnin' to read on the sly, but the overseer found out 'bout

it and stopped him. He found some letters writ on the wall of the

quarter with charcoal and made the darkies tell him who writ it. My

brother Jack done it. The overseer didn't whip him, but told him he

darns't do it 'gain.

"After surrender my folks left the Rosboroughs right straight and moved

clost to Woodlawn. My oldes' hired out in Shreveport. When they asks him

what he's worth, he told them he didn't know, but he was allus worth a

heap of money when anyone wanted to buy him from the Rosboroughs.

"The Ku Kluxers come to our house in Woodlawn, and I got scart and

crawled under the bed. They told mammy they wasn't gwine hurt her, but

jus' wanted water to drink. They didn't call each other by names. When

the head man spoke to any of them he'd say, Number 1, or Number 2, and

like that.

"I thunk I heared ghosts on the Driscoll place once, up in the loft of

the house. I heared them plain as day. My step-pa done die there and

might of been his ghost. We moved away right straight, and old man

Driscoll had to burn that house down after that, 'cause wouldn't none

the darkies live in it.

"The only time I voted was when they put whiskey out. I heared a white

man one time in Marshall, makin' a speech on the square. He said he was

gwine tell us darkies why they didn't low us to vote. He didn't tell us,

'cause the law come out and made him git out the wagon and leave.

"This young race is sho' livin' fast, but I guess they's all right.

Things is jes' different now to when I was a boy. When I was a boy,

folks didn't mind helpin' one 'nother, but now they is in too big a

hurry to pay you any mind.

420016

[Illustration: John James]

JOHN JAMES, 78, was born a slave to John Chapman, on a large

plantation in East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana. John took the

name of his father, who was owned by John James. John and his

mother stayed with Mr. Chapman for six years after they were freed,

then John went to Missouri, where he worked for the M. K. & T.

Railroad for twenty years. He then came to Texas, and now lives at

315 S. Jennings Ave., in Fort Worth.

"I doesn't have so much mind for slavery days, 'cause I's too young

then, but I 'members when surrender come and some befo' dat. I 'members

my mammy lef' me in de nursery with all de other cullud babies when she

go work in de field. De old nurse, Jane, tooks care of us.

"Dat were de big place what Massa John have and dere 'bout fifty cullud

families on de place, so it am more'n a hunerd slaves what he own. I's

runnin' round, like kids am allus doin', first one place, den t'other,

watchin' everything. De big bell ring in de mornin' and you'd see all de

cullud folks comin' from dey cabins, gwineter de kitchen to breakfast.

Dat allus befo' daybreak, and dey have to eat by de light of de pine

torch. It am de pineknot torch. De meals am all cooked dere and dey eat

at long tables. De young'uns from six to ten year eats at de second

table and little'r den dat, in de nursery.

"I sho' 'members 'bout dat nursery feedin'. I never forgits how dat

cornmeal mush and milk am served in de big pans. Dey gives we uns de

wooden spoon and we'uns crowds round de pans like little pigs. I can see

it now. Us push and shove and de nurse walk here and dere, tryin' to

make us eat like humans. She have to cuff one of us once in a while. If

she don't, dem kids be in de pans with both feet. When dey done eatin',

dey faces am all smear with mush and milk.

"Massa allus feed plenty rations, only after war starts de old folks say

dey am short of dis and dat, 'cause dem sojers done took it for de army.

"After breakfast I'd see a crew go here and a crew go dere. Some of 'em

spin and weave and make clothes, and some tan de leather or do de

blacksmith work, and mos' of 'em go out in de field to work. Dey works

till dark and den come home and work round de quarters.

"Dem quarters was 'bout ten by fifteen feet, each one, with a hole for

de window dat am not dere and de floor am de ground, and de straw bunks

for to sleep on. In us cabin am mammy and us three chillen and our aunt.

My pappy done die befo' I 'member him. Some kind stomach mis'ry kilt

him.

"One day Massa Chapman call all us to de front gallery. Us didn't know

what gwine to happen, 'cause it not ord'nary to git called from de work.

Him ring de bell and dat am sho' 'nough de liberty bell, 'cause him read

from de long paper and say, 'You is slaves no more. You is free, jus'

like I is, and have to 'pend on yourselves for de livin'. All what wants

to stay I'll pay money to work, and a share of de crop, iffen you don't

want money.' Mostest of dem stays, and some what goes gits into

troublement, 'cause den dere's trouble 'twixt de white folks and de

cullud folks. Some de niggers thinks they am bigger dan de white folks,

'cause dey free, and de Klu Klux, what us call white caps, puts dem in

de place dey 'longs.

"I gits chased by dem white caps once, jus' befo' us leave massa. Dat

am when I's 'bout thirteen year old. I's 'bout a mile off de place

without de pass and it am de rule them days, all cullud folks must have

de pass to show where dey 'longs and where dey gwine. I has no business

to be off de place without de pass. 'Twas a gal.. Sho', day am it. Us

walks down de road 'bout a mile and am settin' 'hind some bushes, off de

plantation. Us see dem white caps comin' down de road on hossback and us

ain't much scart, 'cause us think dey can't see us 'hind dem bushes. But

dat leader say, 'Whoa,' and dey could look down on us, 'cause dey on

hossback. Well, gosh for 'mighty! Dere us am and can't move den us so

scart. One dem white caps says, 'What you doin', nigger?' 'Jus' settin'

here,' I telt him. 'Yous better start runnin', 'cause us gwine try cotch

you,' dey says.

"Us two niggers am down dat road befo' dem words am outten he mouth. Dey

lets de hosses canter 'hind we'uns and us try to run faster. Fin'ly us

gits home and dat de last time I goes off without de pass.

"Mammy moves to Baton Rouge soon after dat and works as de housemaid. Us

stay dere two year and I gits some little jobs and den I goes to work

for de railroad in Sedalia, up in Missouri, and dere I works as section

hand for de Katy railroad for twenty year. Den I gits through and comes

to Texas.

"I works at anything till eight year ago and den I's no count for work

so I's livin' on de pension, what am $15.00 de month.

"I's never married. I jus' couldn't make de hitch. Dem what I wants,

don't want me. Dem what wants me, I don't want, so dere am never no

agreement.

"No, I's never voted, 'cause I done heared 'bout de trouble dey has over

in Baton Rouge 'bout niggers votin'. I jus' don't like trouble, and for

de few years what am left, I's gwine keep de record of stayin' 'way from

it.

420190

THOMAS JOHNS, 508 Knopp St., Cleburne, Texas, was born April 18,

1847, in Chambers Co., Alabama. He belonged to Col. Robert Johns,

who had come to Alabama from Virginia. After Johns was freed he

stayed with his old owner's family until 1874, when he moved to

Texas.

"My father's name was George and my mother's name was Nellie. My father

was born in Africa. Him and two of his brothers and one sister was stole

and brought to Savannah, Georgia, and sold. Dey was de chillen of a

chief of de Kiochi tribe. De way dey was stole, dey was asked to a dance

on a ship which some white man had, and my aunt said it was early in de

mornin' when dey foun' dey was away from de land, and all dey could see

was de water all 'round. She said they was members of de file-tooth

tribe of niggers. My father's teeth was so dat only de front ones met

together when he closed his mouth. De back ones didn' set together. W'en

his front teeth was together, de back ones was apart, sorta like a V on

its side.

"My mother was born a slave in Virginia. She married there and had a

little girl, and they was sold away from the husband and brought to

Alabama. She said her mother was part Indian and part nigger. Her father

was part white and part nigger, but he look about as white as a white

man.

"My brother's names was John, Jake and Dave. My sister's names was Ann,

Katie, Judie and Easter.

"I belonged to Col. Robert Johns. He owned 30 or 35 slaves. We was well

treated and had the same food the white folks did, and didn' none of us

go hongry. Col. Johns didn' have his niggers whipped, neither.

"Marster's place had 500 acres in it. We raised cotton, corn and rice,

vegetables and every sort of fruit that would grow there, a lot of it

growin' wild. We et mostly hog meat, but we had some beef and mutton,

too. When we'd kill a beef, we'd send some to all the neighbors.

"We done a good day's work, but didn' have to work after night 'less it

was necessary. We was allowed to stop at 12 o'clock and have time for

rest 'fore goin' back to work. Other slave owners roun' our place wasn't

as good to dere slaves, would work 'em hard and half starve 'em. And

some marsters or overseers would whip dere niggers pretty hard,

sometimes whip 'em to death. Marster Johns didn' have no overseer. He

seed to the work and my father was foreman. For awhile after old Marster

died, in 1862 or 1863, I forget which now, we had a overseer, John

Sewell. He was mean. He whipped the chillen and my mother told Miss

Lucy, old marster's oldest girl.

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