"Did you ever stop to think that thinking don't do any good when you do

it too late? Well, that's how it was with us. If every mother's son of a

black had thrown 'way his hoe and took up a gun to fight for his own

freedom along with the Yankees, the war'd been over before it began. But

we didn't do it. We couldn't help stick to our masters. We couldn't no

more shoot 'em than we could fly. My father and me used to talk 'bout

it. We decided we was too soft and freedom wasn't goin' to be much to

our good even if we had a education."

The old Negro was growing very tired, but, at a request, he instantly

got up and tapped his way out into the scorching sunshine to have his

photograph taken. Even as he did so, he seemed to smile with those

blurred, dead eyes of his. Then he chuckled to himself and said:

"'Warmth of the wind

And heat of the South,

And ripe red cherries

For a ripe, red mouth.'"

"Land sakes, Felix!" came through the window from sister Ella. "How you

carries on! Don't you be a-mindin' him, mister."

420096

[Illustration: Phoebe Henderson]

PHOEBE HENDERSON, a 105 year old Negro of Harrison Co., was born a

slave of the Bradley family at Macon, Georgia. After the death of

her mistress, Phoebe belonged to one of the daughters, Mrs. Wiley

Hill, who moved to Panola County, Texas in 1859, where Phoebe lived

until after the Civil War. For the past 22 years she has lived with

Mary Ann Butler, a daughter, about five miles east of Marshall, in

Enterprise Friendship Community. She draws a pension of $16.00 a

month.

"I was bo'n a slave of the Bradley family in Macon, Georgia. My father's

name was Anthony Hubbard and he belonged to the Hubbard's in Georgia. He

was a young man when I lef' Georgia and I never heard from him since. I

'member my mother; she had a gang of boys. Marster Hill brought her to

Texas with us.

"My ole missus name was Bradley and she died in Tennessee. My lil'

missus was her daughter. After dey brought us to Texas in 1859 I worked

in the field many a day, plowin' and hoein', but the children didn't do

much work 'cept carry water. When dey git tired, dey'd say dey was sick

and the overseer let 'em lie down in de shade. He was a good and kindly

man and when we do wrong and go tell him he forgave us and he didn't

whip the boys 'cause he was afraid they'd run away.

"I worked in de house, too. I spinned seven curts a day and every night

we run two looms, makin' large curts for plow lines. We made all our

clothes. We didn't wear shoes in Georgia but in this place the land was

rough and strong, so we couldn't go barefooted. A black man that worked

in the shop measured our feet and made us two pairs a year. We had good

houses and dey was purty good to us. Sometimes missus give us money and

each family had their garden and some chickens. When a couple marry, the

master give them a house and we had a good time and plenty to wear and

to eat. They cared for us when we was sick.

"Master Wiley Hill had a big plantation and plenty of stock and hawgs,

and a big turnip patch. He had yellow and red oxen. We never went to

school any, except Sunday school. We'd go fishin' often down on the

creek and on Saturday night we'd have parties in the woods and play ring

plays and dance.

"My husband's name was David Henderson and we lived on the same place

and belonged to the same man. No, suh, Master Hill didn't have nothin'

to do with bringin' us together. I guess God done it. We fell in love,

and David asked Master Hill for me. We had a weddin' in the house and

was married by a colored Baptist preacher. I wore a white cotton dress

and Missus Hill give me a pan of flour for a weddin' present. He give us

a house of our own. My husband was good to me. He was a careful man and

not rowdy. When we'd go anywhere we'd ride horseback and I'd ride behin'

him.

"I's scared to talk 'bout when I was freed. I 'member the soldiers and

that warrin' and fightin'. Toby, one of the colored boys, joined the

North and was a mail messenger boy and he had his horse shot out from

under him. But I guess its a good thing we was freed, after all.

420007

[Illustration: Albert Hill]

ALBERT HILL, 81, was born a slave of Carter Hill, who owned a

plantation and about 50 slaves, in Walton Co., Georgia. Albert

remained on the Hill place until he was 21, when he went to

Robinson Co., Texas. He now lives at 1305 E. 12th St., Fort Worth,

Texas, in a well-kept five-room house, on a slope above the Trinity

River.

"I was born on Massa Carter Hill's plantation, in Georgia, and my name

am Albert Hill. My papa's name was Dillion, 'cause he taken dat name

from he owner, Massa Tom Dillion. He owned de plantation next to Massa

Hill's, and he owned my mammy and us 13 chillen. I don't know how old I

is, but I 'members de start of de war, and I was a sizeable chile den.

"De plantation wasn't so big and wasn't so small, jus' fair size, but it

am fixed first class and everything am good. We has good quarters made

out of logs and lots of tables and benches, what was made of split logs.

We has de rations and massa give plenty of de cornmeal and beans and

'lasses and honey. Sometimes we has tea, and once in a while we gits

coffee. And does we have de tasty and tender hawg meat! I'd like to see

some of dat hawg meat now.

"Massa am good but he don't 'low de parties. But we kin go to Massa

Dillion's place next to us and dey has lots of parties and de dances. We

dances near all night Saturday night, but we has to stay way in de back

where de white folks can't hear us. Sometimes we has de fiddle and de

banjo and does we cut dat chicken wing and de shuffle! We sho' does.

"I druv de ox, and drivin' dat ox am agitation work in de summer time

when it am hot, 'cause dey runs for water every time. But de worst

trouble I ever has is with one hoss. I fotches de dinner to de workers

out in de field and I use dat hoss, hitched to de two-wheel cart. One

day him am halfway and dat hoss stop. He look back at me, a-rollin' de

eye, and I knows what dat mean--'Here I stays, nigger.' But I heered to

tie de rope on de balky hosses tail and run it 'twixt he legs and tie to

de shaft. I done dat and puts some cuckleburrs on de rope, too. Den I

tech him with de whip and he gives de rear back'ards. Dat he best rear.

When he do dat it pull de rope and de rope pull de tail and de burrs

gits busy. Dat hoss moves for'ard faster and harder den what he ever

done 'fore, and he keep on gwine. You see, he am trying git 'way from he

tail, but de tail am too fast. Course, it stay right behin' him. Den I's

in de picklement. Dat hoss am runnin' away and I can't stop him. De

workers lines up to stop him but de cart give de shove and dat pull he

tail and, lawdy whoo, dat hose jump for'ard like de jackrabbit and go

through dat line of workers. So I steers him into de fence row, and

dere's no more runnin', but an awful mix-up with de hoss and de cart and

de rations. Dat hoss so sceered him have de quavers. Massa say, 'What

you doin'?' I says, 'Break de balk.' He say, 'Well, yous got everything

else broke. We'll see 'bout de balk later.'

Massa has de daughter, Mary, and she want to marry Bud Jackson, but

massa am 'gainst it. Bud am gwine to de army and dat give dis boy work,

'cause I de messenger boy for him and Missy Mary. Dey keeps company

unbeknownst and I carry de notes. I puts de paper in de hollow stump.

Once I's sho' I's kotched. Dere am de massa and he say, 'Where you been,

nigger?' I's sho' skeert and I says, 'I's lookin' for de squirrels.' So

massa goes 'way and when I tells you I's left, it ain't de proper word

for to 'splain, 'cause I's flew from here.' I tells Missy Mary and she

say, 'You sho' am de Lawd's chosen nigger.'

"De 'federate soldiers comes and dey takes de rations, but de massa has

dug de pit in de pasture and buried lots of de rations, so de soldiers

don't find so much. De clostest battle was Atlanta, more dan 25 mile

'way.

"When de war come over, Bud Jackson he come home. De massa welcome him,

to de sprise of everybody, and when Bud say he want to marry Missy Mary,

massa say, 'I guesses you has earnt her.'

"When freedom am here, massa call all us together and tells us 'bout de

difference 'tween freedom and hustlin' for ourselves and dependin' on

someone else. Most of de slaves stays, and massa pays them for de work,

and I stays till I's 21 year old, and I gits $7.00 de month and de

clothes and de house and all I kin eat. De massa have died 'fore dat,

and dere am powerful sorrow. Missy Mary and Massa Bud has de plantation

den, and dey don't want me to go to Texas. But dey goes on de visit and

while dey gone I takes de train for Robinson County, what am in Texas.

"I works at de pavin' work and at de hostlin' work and I works on de

hosses. Den I works for de Santa Fe railroad, handlin' freight, and I

works till 'bout three year ago, when I gits too old for to work no

more.

"But I tells you 'bout de visit back to de old plantation. I been gone

near 40 year and I 'cides to go back, so I reaches de house and dere am

Missy Mary peelin' apples on de back gallery. She looks at me, and she

say, 'I got whippin' waiting for yous, 'cause you run off without

tellin' us.' Dere wasn't no more peelin' dat day, 'cause we sits and

talks 'bout de old times and de old massa. Dere sho' am de tears in dis

nigger's eyes. Den we talks 'bout de nigger messenger I was, and we

laughs a little. All day long we talks a little, and laughs and cries

and talks. I stays 'bout two weeks and seed lots of de folks I knowed

when I was young, de white folks and de niggers, too.

"I's too old to make any more visits, but I would like to go back to Old

Georgia once more. If Missy Mary was 'live, I'd try, but she am dead, so

I tries to wait for old Gabriel blow he horn. When he blow he horn, dis

nigger say, 'Louder, Gabriel, louder!'

420308

ROSINA HOARD does not know just where she was born. The first thing

she remembers is that she and her parents were purchased by Col.

Pratt Washington, who owned a plantation near Garfield, in Travis

County, Texas. Rosina, who is a very pleasant and sincere person,

says she has had a tough life since she was free. She receives a

monthly pension of fourteen dollars, for which she expresses

gratitude. Her address is 1301 Chestnut St., Austin, Tex.

"When I's a gal, I's Rosina Slaughter, but folks call me Zina. Yes, sar.

It am Zina dat and Zina dis. I says I's born April 9, 1859, but I 'lieve

I's older. It was somewhere in Williamson County, but I don't know the

massa's name. My mammy was Lusanne Slaughter and she was stout but in

her last days she got to be a li'l bit of a woman. She died only last

spring and she was a hunerd eleven years old.

"Papa was a Baptist preacher to de day of he death. He had asthma all

his days. I 'member how he had de sorrel hoss and would ride off and

preach under some arbor bush. I rid with him on he hoss.

"First thing I 'member is us was bought by Massa Col. Pratt Washington

from Massa Lank Miner. Massa Washington was purty good man. He boys,

George and John Henry, was de only overseers. Dem boys treat us nice.

Massa allus rid up on he hoss after dinner time. He hoss was a bay, call

Sank. De fields was in de bottoms of de Colorado River. De big house was

on de hill and us could see him comin'. He weared a tall, beaver hat

allus.

"De reason us allus watch for him am dat he boy, George, try larn us our

A B C's in de field. De workers watch for massa and when dey seed him

a-ridin' down de hill dey starts singin' out, 'Ole hawg 'round de

bench--Ole hawg 'round de bench.'

"Dat de signal and den everybody starts workin' like dey have something

after dem. But I's too young to larn much in de field and I can't read

today and have to make de cross when I signs for my name.

"Each chile have he own wood tray. Dere was old Aunt Alice and she done

all de cookin' for de chillen in de depot. Dat what dey calls de place

all de chillen stays till dere mammies come home from de field. Aunt

Alice have de big pot to cook in, out in de yard. Some days we had beans

and some day peas. She put great hunks of salt bacon in de pot, and bake

plenty cornbread, and give us plenty milk.

"Some big chillen have to pick cotton. Old Junus was de cullud overseer

for de chillen and he sure mean to dem. He carry a stick and use it,

too.

"One day de blue-bellies come to de fields. Dey Yankee sojers, and tell

de slaves dey free. Some stayed and some left. Papa took us and move to

de Craft plantation, not far 'way, and farm dere.

"I been married three time. First to Peter Collinsworth. I quit him.

Second to George Hoard. We stayed togedder till he die, and have five

chillen. Den I marries he brother, Jim Hoard. I tells you de truth, Jim

never did work much. He'd go fishin' and chop wood by de days, but not

many days. He suffered with de piles. I done de housework and look after

de chillen and den go out and pick two hunerd pound cotton a day. I was

a cripple since one of my boys birthed. I git de rheumatis' and my knees

hurt so much sometime I rub wed sand and mud on dem to ease de pain.

"We had a house at Barton Springs with two rooms, one log and one box. I

never did like it up dere and I told Jim I's gwine. I did, but he come

and got me.

"Since freedom I's been through de toughs. I had to do de man's work,

chop down trees and plow de fields and pick cotton. I want to tell you

how glad I is to git my pension. It is sure nice of de folks to take

care of me in my old age. Befo' I got de pension I had a hard time. You

can sho' say I's been through de toughs.

420286

TOM HOLLAND was born in Walker County, Texas, and thinks he is

about 97 years old. His master, Frank Holland, traded Tom to

William Green just before the Civil War. After Tom was freed, he

farmed both for himself and for others in the vicinity of his old

home. He now lives in Madisonville, Texas.

"My owner was Massa Frank Holland, and I's born on his place in Walker

County. I had one sister named Gena and three brothers, named George and

Will and Joe, but they's all dead now. Mammy's name was Gena and my

father's named Abraham Holland and they's brung from North Carolina to

Texas by Massa Holland when they's real young.

"I chopped cotton and plowed and split rails, then was a horse rider. In

them days I could ride the wildest horse what ever made tracks in Texas,

but I's never valued very high 'cause I had a glass eye. I don't 'member

how I done got it, but there it am. I'd make a dollar or fifty cents to

ride wild horses in slavery time and massa let me keep it. I buyed

tobacco and candy and if massa cotch me with tobacco I'd git a whippin',

but I allus slipped and bought chewin' tobacco.

"We allus had plenty to eat, sich as it was them days, and it was good,

plenty wild meat and cornbread cooked in ashes. We toasted the meat on a

open fire, and had plenty possum and rabbit and fish.

"We wore them loyal shirts open all way down the front, but I never seed

shoes till long time after freedom. In cold weather massa tanned lots of

hides and we'd make warm clothes. My weddin' clothes was a white loyal

shirt, never had no shoes, married barefooted.

"Massa Frank, he one real good white man. He was awful good to his

Negroes. Missis Sally, she a plumb angel. Their three chillen stayed

with me nearly all the time, askin' this Negro lots of questions. They

didn't have so fine a house, neither, two rooms with a big hall through

and no windows and deer skins tacked over the door to keep out rain and

cold. It was covered with boards I helped cut after I got big 'nough.

"Massa Frank had cotton and corn and everything to live on, 'bout three

hundred acres, and overseed it himself, and seven growed slaves and five

little slaves. He allus waked us real early to be in the field when

daylight come and worked us till slap dark, but let us have a hour and a

half at noon to eat and rest up. Sometimes when slaves got stubborn he'd

whip them and make good Negroes out of them, 'cause he was real good to

them.

"I seed slaves sold and auctioned off, 'cause I's put up to the highest

bidder myself. Massa traded me to William Green jus' 'fore the war, for

a hundred acres land at $1.00 a acre. He thought I'd never be much

'count, 'cause I had the glass eye, but I'm still livin' and a purty

fair Negro to my age. All the hollerin' and bawlin' took place and when

he sold me it took me most a year to git over it, but there I was,

'longin' to 'nother man.

"If we went off without a pass we allus went two at a time. We slipped

off when we got a chance to see young folks on some other place. The

patterrollers cotched me one night and, Lawd have mercy on me, they

stretches me over a log and hits thirty-nine licks with a rawhide loaded

with rock, and every time they hit me the blood and hide done fly. They

drove me home to massa and told him and he called a old mammy to doctor

my back, and I couldn't work for four days. That never kep' me from

slippin' off 'gain, but I's more careful the next time.

"We'd go and fall right in at the door of the quarters at night, so

massa and the patterrollers thinks we's real tired and let us alone and

not watch us. That very night we'd be plannin' to slip off somewheres to

see a Negro gal or our wife, or to have a big time, 'specially when the

moon shine all night so we could see. It wouldn't do to have torch

lights. They was 'bout all the kind of lights we had them days and if we

made light, massa come to see what we're doin', and it be jus' too bad

then for the stray Negro!

"That there war brung suffrin' to lots of people and made a widow out of

my missis. Massa William, he go and let one them Yankees git him in one

of them battles and they never brung him home. Missis, she gits the

letter from his captain, braggin' on his bravery, but that never helped

him after he was kilt in the war. She gits 'nother letter that us

Negroes is free and she tells us. We had no place to go, so we starts to

cry and asks her what we gwine do. She said we could stay and farm with

her and work her teams and use her tools and land and pay her half of

what we made, 'sides our supplies. That's a happy bunch of Negroes when

she told us this.

"Late in that evenin' the Negroes in Huntsville starts hollerin' and

shoutin' and one gal was hollerin' loud and a white man come ridin' on a

hoss and leans over and cut that gal nearly half in two and a covered

wagon come along and picks her up and we never heared nothin' more.

"I married Imogene, a homely weddin' 'fore the war. We didn't have much

to-do at our weddin'. I asks missis if I could have Imogene and she says

yes and that's all they was to our weddin'. We had three boys and three

gals, and Imogene died 'bout twenty years ago and I been livin' with one

child and 'nother. I gits a little pension from the gov'ment and does

small jobs round for the white people.

"I 'lieve they ought to have gived us somethin' when we was freed, but

they turned us out to graze or starve. Most of the white people turned

the Negroes slam loose. We stayed a year with missis and then she

married and her husband had his own workers and told us to git out. We

worked for twenty and thirty cents a day then, and I fin'ly got a place

with Dr. L.J. Conroe. But after the war the Negro had a hard struggle,

'cause he was turned loose jus' like he came into the world and no

education or 'sperience.

"If the Negro wanted to vote the Klu Kluxes was right there to keep him

from votin'. Negroes was 'fraid to git out and try to 'xert they

freedom. They'd ride up by a Negro and shoot him jus' like a wild hawg

and never a word said or done 'bout it.

"I's farmed and makin' a livin' is 'bout all. I come over here in

Madison County and rents from B.F. Young, clost to Midway and gits me a

few cows. I been right round here ever since. I lives round with my

chillen now, 'cause I's gittin' too old to work.

"This young bunch of Negroes is all right some ways, but they won't tell

the truth. They isn't raised like the white folks raised us. If we

didn't tell the truth our massa'd tear us all to pieces. Of course, they

is educated now and can get 'most any kind of work, some of them, what

we couldn't.

420052

[Illustration: Eliza Holman]

ELIZA HOLMAN, 82, was born a slave of the Rev. John Applewhite,

near Clinton, Mississippi. In 1861 they came to Texas, settling

near Decatur. Eliza now lives at 2507 Clinton Ave., Fort Worth,

Texas.

"Talk 'bout de past from de time I 'members till now, slave days and

all? Dat not so hard. I knows what de past am, but what to come, dat am

different. Dey says, 'Let de past be de guide for de future,' but if you

don't know de future road, hows you gwine guide? I's sho' glad to tell

you all I 'members, but dat am a long 'memberance.

"I know I's past 80, for sho', and maybe more, 'cause I's old 'nough to

'member befo' de war starts. I 'members when de massa move to Texas by

de ox team and dat am some trip! Dey loads de wagon till dere ain't no

more room and den sticks we'uns in, and we walks some of de time, too.

"My massa am a preacherman and have jus' three slaves, me and pappy and

mammy. She am cook and housekeeper and I helps her. Pappy am de field

hand and de coachman and everything else what am needed. We have a nice,

two-room log house to live in and it am better den what mos' slaves

have, with de wood floor and real windows with glass in dem.

"Massa am good but he am strict. He don't have to say much when he wants

you to do somethin'. Dere am no honey words round de house from him, but

when him am preachin' in de church, him am different. He am honey man

den. Massa could tell de right way in de church but it am hard for him

to act it at home. He makes us go to church every Sunday.

"But I's tellin' you how we'uns come to Texas. De meals am cook by de

campfire and after breakfast we starts and it am bump, bump, bump all

day long. It am rocks and holes and mudholes, and it am streams and

rivers to cross. We'uns cross one river, musta been de Mississippi, and

drives on a big bridge and dey floats dat bridge right 'cross dat river.

"Massa and missus argues all de way to Texas. She am skeert mos' de time

and he allus say de Lawd take care of us. He say, 'De Lawd am a-guidin'

us.' She say, 'It am fools guidin' and a fool move for to start.' Dat de

way dey talks all de way. And when we gits in de mudhole 'twas a

argument 'gain. She say, 'Dis am some more of your Lawd's calls.' He

say, 'Hush, hush, woman. Yous gittin' sac'ligious.' So we has to walk

two mile for a man to git his yoke of oxen to pull us out dat mudhole,

and when we out, massa say, 'Thank de Lawd.' And missus say, 'Thank de

mens and de oxen.'

"Den one day we'uns camps under a big tree and when we'uns woke in de

mornin' dere am worms and worms and worms. Millions of dem come off dat

tree. Man, man, dat am a mess. Massa say dey army worms and missus say,

'Why for dey not in de army den?'

"After we been in Texas 'bout a year, missy Mary gits married to John

Olham. Missy Mary am massa's daughter. After dat I lives with her and

Massa John and den hell start poppin' for dis nigger. Missy Mary am good

but Massa John am de devil. Dat man sho' am cruel, he works me to death

and whups me for de leas' thing. My pappy say to me, 'You should 'come a

runaway nigger.' He runs 'way hisself and dat de las' time we hears of

him.

"When surrender come I has to stay on with Massa Olham, 'cause I has no

place to go and I's too young to know how to do for myself. I stays

'bout till I's 16 year old and den I hunts some place to work and gits

it in Jacksboro and stays dere sev'ral years. I quits when I gits

married and dat 'bout nine year after de war end.

"I marries Dick Hines at Silver Creek and he am a farmer and a contrary

man. He worked jus' as hard at his contrariness as him did at his

farmin'. Mercy, how distressin' and worryment am life with dat nigger! I

couldn't stand it no longer dan five year till I tooks my getaway. De

nex' year I marries Sam Walker what worked for cattlement here in Fort

Worth and he died 'bout 20 year ago. Den 'twas 'bout 13 year ago I

marries Jack Holman and he died in 1930. I's sho' try dis marrin'

business but I ain't gwine try it no more, no, suh.

"'Twixt all dem husbands and workin' for de white folks I gits 'long,

but I's old and de last few years I can't work. Dey pays me $12.00 de

month from de State and dat's what I lives on. Shucks, I's not worth

nothin' no more. I jus' sets and sets and thinks of de old days and my

mammy. All dat make me sad. I'll tell you one dem songs what 'spresses

my feelin's 'zactly.

"I's am climbin' Jacob's ladder, ladder,

I's am climbin' Jacob's ladder, ladder,

Soldier of de cross; O-h-h-h! Rise and shine,

Give Gawd de glory, glory, glory,

In de year of Jubilee.

I wants to climb up Jacob's ladder, ladder,

Jacob's ladder, till I gits in de new Jerusalem.

"Dat jus' how I feels."

420143

LARNCE HOLT, 79, was born near Woodville, in Tyler County, Texas, a

slave of William Holt. He now lives in Beaumont, Texas.

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