"I belonged to George Harper, he was Judge Harper. The' was my father,

mother and two boys. He brought us from Mississippi, but I don' 'member

what part they come from. We settled down here at Gonzeles, on Peach

Creek, and he farmed one year there. Then he moved out here to Medina

County, right here on Hondo Creek. I dont 'member how many acres he had,

but he had a big farm. He had at least eight whole slave families. He

sold 'em when he wanted money.

"My mother's name was Mary Harper and my father's name was Ike Harper,

and they belonged to the Harpers, too. You know, after they was turned

loose they had to name themselves. My father named himself Grant and his

brother named himself Glover, and my grandfather was Filmore. They had

some kin' of law you had to git away from your boss' name so they named

themselves.

"Our house we had to live in, I tell you we had a tough affair, a picket

concern, you might say no house a-tall. The beds was one of your own

make; if you knowed how to make one, you had one, but of course the

chillen slept on the floor, patched up some way.

"We went barefooted in the summer and winter, too. You had to prepare

that for yourself, and if you didn' have head enough to prepare for

yourself, you went without. I don' see how they done as well as they

done, 'cause some winters was awful cold, but I always said the Lawd was

with 'em.

[Handwritten Note: 'used']

"We didn' have no little garden, we never had no time to work no garden.

When you could see to work, you was workin' for him. Ho! You didn' know

what money was. He never paid you anything, you never got to see none.

Some of the Germans would give the old ones a little piece of money, but

the chillen, pshaw! They never got to see nothin.'

"He was a pretty good boss. You didn' have to work Sunday and part of

Saturday and in the evenin', you had that. He fed us good. Sometimes, if

you was crowded, you had to work all day Saturday. But usually he give

you that, so you could wash and weave cloth or such. He had cullud women

there he kep' all the time to weave and spin. They kep' cloth made.

"On Saturday nights, we jes' knocked 'round the place. Christmas? I don'

know as I was ever home Christmas. My boss kep' me hired out. The slaves

never had no Christmas presents I know of. And big dinners, I never was

at nary one. They didn' give us nothin, I tell you, but a grubbin' hoe

and axe and the whip. They had co'n shuckin's in them days and co'n

shellin's, too. We would shuck so many days and so many days to shell it

up.

"We would shoot marbles when we was little. It was all the game the

niggers ever knowed, was shootin' marbles.

"After work at nights there wasn't much settin' 'round; you'd fall into

bed and go to sleep. On Saturday night they didn' git together, they

would jes' sing at their own houses. Oh, yes'm, I 'member 'em singin'

'Run, nigger, run,' but it's too far back for me to 'member those other

songs. They would raise up a song when they was pickin' cotton, but I

don' 'member much about those songs.

"My old boss, I'm boun' to give him praise, he treated his niggers

right. He made 'em work, though, and he whipped 'em, too. But he fed

good, too. We had rabbits and possums once in awhile. Hardly ever any

game, but you might git a deer sometimes.

"Let 'em ketch you with a gun or a piece of paper with writin' on it and

he'd whip you like everything. Some of the slaves, if they ever did git

a piece of paper, they would keep it and learn a few words. But they

didn' want you to know nothin', that's what, nothin' but work. You would

think they was goin' to kill you, he would whip you so if he caught you

with a piece of paper. You couldn' have nothin' but a pick and axe and

grubbin' hoe.

"We never got to play none. Our boss hired us out lots of times. I don'

know what he got for us. We farmed, cut wood, grubbed, anything. I

herded sheep and I picked cotton.

"We got up early, you betcha. You would be out there by time you could

see and you quit when it was dark. They tasked us. They would give us

200 or 300 pounds of cotton to bring in and you would git it, and if you

didn' git it, you better, or you would git it tomorrow, or your back

would git it. Or you'd git it from someone else, maybe steal it from

their sacks.

"My grandfather, he would tell us things, to keep the whip off our

backs. He would say, 'Chillen, work, work and work hard. You know how

you hate to be whipped, so work hard!' And of course we chillen tried,

but of course we would git careless sometimes.

"The master had a 'black snake'--some called it a 'bull whip,' and he

knew how to use it. He whipped, but I don' 'member now whether he

brought any blood on me, but he cut the blood outta the grown ones. He

didn' tie 'em, he always had a whippin' block or log to make 'em lay

down on. They called 500 licks a 'light breshin,' and right on your

naked back, too. They said your clothes wouldn' grow but your hide

would. From what I heered say, if you run away, then was when they give

you a whippin,' prob'bly 1500 or 2000 licks. They'd shore tie you down

then, 'cause you couldn' stan' it. Then you'd have to work on top of all

that, with your shirt stickin' to your back.

"The overseer woke us up. Sometimes he had a kin' of horn to blow, and

when you heered that horn, you'd better git up. He would give you a good

whippin' iffen he had to come and wake you up. He was the meanest one on

the place, worse'n the boss man.

"The boss man had a nice rock house, and the women didn' work at all.

"I never did see any slaves auctioned off, but I heered of it. My boss

he would take 'em there and sell 'em.

"They had a church this side of New Fountain and the boss man 'lowed us

to go on Sunday. If any of the slaves did join, they didn' baptize them,

as I know of.

"When one of the slaves would die, they would bury 'em on the land

there. Reg'lar little cemetery there. Oh, yes, they would have doctors

for 'em. If anybody died, they would tell some of the other slaves to

dig the grave and take 'em out there and bury 'em. They jes' put 'em in

a box, no preachin' or nothin.' But, of course, if it was Sunday the

slaves would follow out there and sing. No, if they didn' die on Sunday,

you couldn' go; you went to that field.

"If you wanted to go to any other plantation you had to git a pass to go

over there, and if you didn' and got caught, you got one of the worst

whippins'. If things happened and they wanted to tell 'em on other

plantations, they would slip out at night and tell 'em.

"We never heered much about the fightin' or how it was goin.' When the

war finally was over, our old boss called us all up and had us to stand

in abreast, and he stood on the gallery and he read the verdict to 'em,

and said, 'Now, you can jes' work on if you want to, and I'll treat you

jes' like I always did.' I guess when he said that they knew what he

meant. The' wasn't but one family left with 'im. They stayed about two

years. But the rest was just like birds, they jes' flew.

"I went with my father and he hired me out for two years, to a man named

Riley, over on the Seco. I did most everythin', worked the field and was

house rustler, too. But I had a good time there. After I left 'im, I

came to D'Hanis. I worked on a church house they was buildin'. Then I

went back to my father and worked for him a long time, freightin' cotton

to Eagle Pass. I used horses and mules and hauled cotton and flour and

whiskey and things like that.

"I met my wife down on Black Creek, and I freighted two years after we

was married. We got married so long ago, but in them days anything would

do. You see, these days they are so proud, but we was glad to have

anything. I had a black suit to be married in, and a pretty long shirt,

and I wore boots. She wore a white dress, but in them days they didn'

have black shoes. Yes'm, they had a dance, down here on Black Creek.

Danced half the night at her house and two men played the fiddle. Eat?

We had everythin' to eat, a barbecued calf and a hog, too, and all kinds

of cakes and pies. Drink? Why, the men had whiskey to drink and the

women drank coffee. We married about 7 or 8 in the evenin' at her house.

My wife's name was Sarah Ann Brackins.

"Did I see a ghost? Well, over yonder on the creek was a ghost. It was a

moonlight night and it passed right by me and it never had no head on it

a-tall. It almost breshed me. It kep' walkin' right by side of me. I

shore saw it and I run like a good fellow. Lots of 'em could see

wonnurful sights then and I heered lots of noises, but that's the only

ghost I ever seen.

"No, I never knowed nothing 'bout charms. I've seen 'em have a rabbit

heel or coon heel for good luck. I seen a woman one time that was

tricked, or what I'd call poisoned. A place on her let, it was jes' the

shape of these little old striped lizards. It was somethin' they called

'trickin it,' and a person that knowed to trick you would put it there

to make you suffer the balance of your days. It would go 'round your leg

clear to the hip and be between the skin and the flesh. They called it

the devil's work."

420118

[Illustration: James Green]

JAMES GREEN is half American Indian and half Negro. He was born a

slave to John Williams, of Petersburg, Va., became a "free boy",

then was kidnapped and sold in a Virginia slave market to a Texas

ranchman. He now lives at 323 N. Olive St., San Antonio, Texas.

"I never knowed my age till after de war, when I's set free de second

time, and then marster gits out a big book and it shows I's 25 year old.

It shows I's 12 when I is bought and $800 is paid for me. That $800 was

stolen money, 'cause I was kidnapped and dis is how it come:

"My mammy was owned by John Williams in Petersburg, in Virginia, and I

come born to her on dat plantation. Den my father set 'bout to git me

free, 'cause he a full-blooded Indian and done some big favor for a big

man high up in de courts, and he gits me set free, and den Marster

Williams laughs and calls me 'free boy.'

"Then, one day along come a Friday and that a unlucky star day and I

playin' round de house and Marster Williams come up and say, 'Delia,

will you 'low Jim walk down de street with me?' My mammy say, 'All

right, Jim, you be a good boy,' and dat de las' time I ever heared her

speak, or ever see her. We walks down whar de houses grows close

together and pretty soon comes to de slave market. I ain't seed it

'fore, but when Marster Williams says, 'Git up on de block,' I got a

funny feelin', and I knows what has happened. I's sold to Marster John

Pinchback and he had de St. Vitus dance and he likes to make he niggers

suffer to make up for his squirmin' and twistin' and he the bigges'

debbil on earth.

"We leaves right away for Texas and goes to marster's ranch in Columbus.

It was owned by him and a man call Wright, and when we gits there I's

put to work without nothin' to eat. Dat night I makes up my mind to run

away but de nex' day dey takes me and de other niggers to look at de

dogs and chooses me to train de dogs with. I's told I had to play I

runnin' away and to run five mile in any way and then climb a tree. One

of de niggers tells me kind of nice to climb as high in dat tree as I

could if I didn't want my body tore off my legs. So I runs a good five

miles and climbs up in de tree whar de branches is gettin' small.

"I sits dere a long time and den sees de dogs comin'. When dey gits

under de tree dey sees me and starts barkin'. After dat I never got

thinkin' of runnin' away.

"Time goes on and de war come along, but everything goes on like it did.

Some niggers dies, but more was born, 'cause old Pinchback sees to dat.

He breeds niggers as quick as he can, 'cause dat money for him. No one

had no say who he have for wife. But de nigger husbands wasn't de only

ones dat keeps up havin' chillen, 'cause de marsters and de drivers

takes all de nigger gals dey wants. Den de chillen was brown and I seed

one clear white one, but dey slaves jus' de same.

"De end of dat war comes and old Pinchback says, 'You niggers all come

to de big house in de mornin'. He tells us we is free and he opens his

book and gives us all a name and tells us whar we comes from and how old

we is, and says he pay us 40 cents a day to stay with him. I stays 'bout

a year and dere's no big change. De same houses and some got whipped but

nobody got nailed to a tree by de ears, like dey used to. Finally old

Pinchback dies and when he buried de lightnin' come and split de grave

and de coffin wide open.

"Well, time goes on some more and den Lizzie and me, we gits together

and we marries reg'lar with a real weddin'. We's been together a long

time and we is happy.

"I 'members a old song like dis:

"'Old marster eats beef and sucks on de bone,

And give us de gristle--

To make, to make, to make, to make,

To make de nigger whistle.'

"Dat all de song I 'member from dose old days, 'ceptin' one more:

"'I goes to church in early morn,

De birds just a-sittin' on de tree--

Sometimes my clothes gits very much worn--

'Cause I wears 'em out at de knee.

"'I sings and shouts with all my might,

To drive away de cold--

And de bells keep ringin' in gospel light,

Till de story of de Lamb am told.'"

420064

[Illustration: O.W. Green and Granddaughter]

O.W. Green, son of Frank and of Mary Ann Marks, was born in slavery

at Bradly Co., Arkansas, June 26, 1859. His owners, the Mobley

family, owned a large plantation and two or three thousand slaves.

Jack Mobley, Green's young master, was killed in the Civil War, and

Green became one of the "orphan chillen." When the Ku Klux Klan

became active, the "orphan chillen" were taken to Little Rock, Ark.

Later on, Green moved to Del Rio, Texas, where he now lives.

"I was bo'ned in Arkansas. Frank Marks was my father and Mary Ann Marks

my mother. She was bo'n on the plantation. I had two brothers.

"I don' 'member de quarters, but dey mus' of had plenty, 'cause dey was

two, three thousand slaves on de plantation. All my kin people belonged

to Massa Mobley. My grandfather was a millman and dey had one de bigges'

grist mills in de country.

"Our Massa was good and we had plenty for to eat. Dere was no jail for

slaves on our place but not far from dere was a jail.

"De Ku Klux Klan made everything pretty squally, so dey taken de orphan

chillen to Little Rock and kep' 'em two, three years. Dere was lots of

slaves in dat country 'round Rob Roy and Free Nigger Bend. Old

Churchill, who used to be governor, had a plantation in dere.

"When I was nine years ol' dey had de Bruce and Baxter revolution. 'Twas

more runnin' dan fightin'. Bruce was 'lected for governor but Baxter

said he'd be governor if he had to run Brooks into de sea.

"My young Massa, Jack Mobley, was killed in de war, is how I come to be

one of de orphan chillen.

"While us orphan chillen was at Little Rock dere come a terrible

soreness of de eyes. I heard tell 'twas caused from de cholera. Every

little child had to take turns about sittin' by de babies or totin'

them. I was so blind, my eyes was so sore, I couldn't see. The doctor's

wife was working with us. She was tryin' to figure up a cure for our

sore eyes, first using one remedy and den another. An old herb doctor

told her about a herb he had used on de plantations to cure de slaves'

sore eyes. Dey boiled de herb and put hit on our eyes, on a white cloth.

De doctor's wife had a little boy about my age. He would play with me,

and thought I was about hit. He would lead me around, then he would run

off and leave me and see if I could see. One day between 'leven and

twelve o'clock--I never will fergit hit--he taken me down to de mess

room. De lady was not quite ready to dress my eyes. She told me to go on

and come back in a little while. When I got outside I tore dat old rag

off of my eyes and throwed hit down. I told the little boy, 'O, I can

see you!' He grabbed me by de arm and ran yellin' to his mammy, 'Mama,

he can see! Mama, Owen can see!' I neva will fo'git dat word. Dey were

all in so a rejoicin', excitable way. I was de first one had his eyes

cured. Dey sent de lady to New York and she made plenty of money from

her remedy.

"Things sure was turrible durin' de war. Dey just driv us in front of de

soldiers. Dere was lots of cholera. We was just bedded together lak

hogs. The Ku Klux Klan come behind de soldiers, killin' and robbin'.

"After two or three years in de camp with de orphans, my kin found me

and took me home.

"My grandfather and uncle was in de fightin'. My grandfather was a wagon

man. De las' trip he made, he come home bringin' a load of dead soldiers

to be buried. My grandfather told de people all about de war. He said

hit sure was terrible.

"When de war was over de people jus' shouted for joy. De men and women

jus' shouted for joy. 'Twas only because of de prayers of de cullud

people, dey was freed, and de Lawd worked through Lincoln.

"My old masta was a doctor and a surgeon. He trained my grandmother; she

worked under him thirty-seven years as a nurse. When old masta wanted

grandmother to go on a special case he would whip her so she wouldn't

tell none of his secrets. Grandmother used herbs fo' medicine--black

snake root, sasparilla, blackberry briar roots--and nearly all de

young'uns she fooled with she save from diarrhea.

"My old masta was good, but when he found you shoutin' he burnt your

hand. My grandmother said he burnt her hand several times. Masta

wouldn't let de cullud folks have meetin', but dey would go out in de

woods in secret to pray and preach and shout.

"I jist picked up enough readin' to read my bible and scratch my name. I

went to school one mo'ning and didn't git along wid de teacher so I

didn't go no mo'.

"I 'member my folks had big times come Christmas. Dey never did work on

Sundays, jist set around and rest. Dey never worked in bad weather. Dey

never did go to de field till seven o'clock.

"I married in 1919. I have two step-daughters and one step-son. My

step-son lives in San Antonio. I have six step-grandchillen. I was a

member of de Baptist church befo' you was bo'n, lady.

420394

Dibble, Fred

Beaumont, Jefferson Co. Dist. #3

ROSA GREEN, 85 years old, was born at Ketchi, Louisiana, but as

soon as she was old enough became a housegirl on the plantation of

Major "Bob" Hollingsworth at Mansfield, Louisiana. To the best of

her knowledge, she was about 13 when the "freedom papers" were

read. She had had 13 children by her two husbands, both deceased,

and lives with her youngest daughter in Beaumont. Their one-room,

unpainted house is one of a dozen unprepossessing structures

bordering an alleyway leading off Pine Street. Rosa, a spry little

figure, crowned with short, snow-white pigtails extending in

various directions, spends most of her time tending her small

flowerbeds and vegetable garden. She is talkative and her memory

seems quite active.

"When de w'ite folks read de freedom paper I was 13 year old. I jes'

lean up agin de porch, 'cause I didn' know den what it was all about. I

war'nt bo'n in Texas, I was bo'n in Ketchi, but I was rais' in Manfiel'.

Law, yes, I 'member de fight at Manfiel'. My ol' marster tuk all he

niggers and lef' at night. Lef' us little ones; say de Yankees could git

us effen day wan' to, 'cause we no good no way, and I wouldn' care if

dey did git us. Dey put us in a sugar hogshead and give us a spoon to

scrape out de sugar. 'Bout de ol' plantation, I work a little w'ile in

de fiel'. I didn' know den like I see now. Dese chillen bo'n wid mo'

sense now dan we was den. Dey was 'bout ten cullud folks on de place. My

ol' marster name Bob Hollingsworth, but dey call 'im Major, 'cause he

was a major in de war, not de las' one, but de one way back yonder. Ol'

missus work de little ones roun' de house and under de house and kep'

ev'yt'ing clean as yo' han'. The ol' marster I thought was de meanes'

man de Lawd ever made. Look like he cuss ev'y time he open he mouth. De

neighbor w'ite folks, some good, some bad. My work was cleanin' up 'roun

de house and nussin' de chillen. Only times I went to church when day

tuk us long to min' de chillen. When de battle of Manfiel' was, we didn'

git out much. When de Yankees was comin' to Gran' Cane, my w'ite folks

dig a big pit and put der meat and flour and all in it and cover it over

wid dirt and put wagon loads of pine straw over it. It was 'bout five or

six mile to Manfield and 'bout 49 or 50 mile to Shreveport. My ol'

marster tuk all he niggers and went off somweres, dey called it Texas,

but I didn' know where. De ol'er ones farm. Dey rais' ev'yt'ing dey

could put in de groun', dey did. My pa was kirrige(carriage) driver for

my ol' missus. He was boss nigger fo' de cullud men when marster wan't

right dere. My father jis' stay dere. See, dey free our people in July.

Dat leave de whole crop stanin' dere in de fiel'. Dey had to stay dere

and take care of de crop. After dat dey commence makin' contraks and

bargins. I was 22 years ol' when I marry de fus' time. Both my husban's

dead. I had 13 chillen in all.

"De fus' time I went to church, missus tuk me and another gal to min' de

chillen. I never heared a preacher befo'. I 'member how de preacher word

de hymn:

'Come, ye sinners, po' and needy.

Weak and wounded, sick and so'.'

"I couldn' understan' it, but now when I look down on it I sees it now.

I bleeve us been here goin' on fo' year' right yere in dis house."

420078

[Illustration: William Green, (Rev. Bill) (A)]

[Illustration: William Green, (Rev. Bill) (B)]

WILLIAM GREEN, or "Reverend Bill", as he is call by the other

Negroes, was brought to Texas from Mississippi in 1862. His master

was Major John Montgomery. William is 87 years old. He has lived in

San Antonio, Texas, for 50 years.

"I is Reverend Bill, all right, but I is 'fraid dat compliment don't

belong to me no more, 'cause I quit preachin' in favor of de young men.

"I kin tell you my 'speriences in savin'--mis'ry dat was, is peace dat

is. I tells you dis 'spite of bein' alone in de world with no chillun.

"I is raised a slave and 'mancipated in June, but I 'members de old

plantation whar I is born. Massa John Montgomery, he owned me, and he

went to de war and git kilt. I knowed 'bout de war, though us slaves

wasn't sposed to know nothin' 'bout it. I was livin' in Texas then,

'cause Massa John moved over here from Mis'sippi. In dat place niggers

was allus wrong, no matter what, but it was better in dis place. We used

to think we was lucky to git over here to Texas, and we used to sing a

song 'bout it:

"'Over yonder is de wild-goose nation,

Whar old missus has sugar plantation--

Sugar grows sweet but de plantation's sour,

'cause de nigger jump and run every hour.

"'I has you all to know, you all to know,

Dare's light on de shore,

Says little Bill to big Bill,

There's a li'l nigger to write and cipher.'

"I don't know what de song meant but we thought we'd git free here in

Texas, and we'd git eddicated, and dat's de meanin' of de talk about

writin' and cipherin'.

"Well, when I is free I isn't free, 'cause de boss wants me and another

boy to stay till we's 21 year old. But old Judge Longworth, he come down

dere and dere was pretty near a fight, and he 'splains to us we was

free.

"'bout five year after dat I takes up preachin' and I preaches for a

long time, and I works on a farm, half and half with de owner. I has a

good life, but now I's too old to preach.

420041

[Illustration: Pauline Grice]

PAULINE GRICE, 81, was born a slave of John Blackshier, who owned

her mother, about 150 slaves, 50 slave children, and a large

plantation near Atlanta, Georgia. Pauline married Navasota Grice in

1875 and they moved to Texas in 1917. Since her husband's death in

1928 Pauline has depended on the charity of friends, with whom she

lives at 2504 Ross Ave., North Fort Worth, Texas.

"White man, dis old cullud woman am not strong. 'Bout all my substance

am gone now. De way you sees me layin' on dis bed am what I has to do

mos' de time. My mem'randum not so good like 'twas.

"De place I am borned am right near Atlanta, in Georgia, and on dat

plantation of Massa John Blackshier. A big place, with 'bout 150 growed

slaves and 'bout 50 pickininnies. I doesn't work till near de surrender,

'cause I's too small. But us don't leave Massa John, us go right on

workin' for him like 'fore.

"Massa John am de kind massa and don't have whuppin's. He tell de

overseer, 'If you can't make dem niggers work without de whup, den you

not de man I wants.' Mos' de niggers 'have theyselves and when dey don't

massa put dem in de li'l house what he call de jail, with nothin' to eat

till deys ready to do what he say. Onct or twict he sell de nigger what

won't do right and do de work.

"Us have de cabin what am made from logs but us only sleeps dere. All us

cookin' done in de big kitchen. Dere am three women what do dat, and

give us de meals in de long shed with de long tables.

"To de bes' of dis nigger's mem'randum, de feed am good. Plenty of

everything and corn am de mostest us have. Dere am cornbread and

cornmeal mush and corn hominy and corn grits and parched corn for drink,

'stead of tea or coffee. Us have milk and 'lasses and brown sugar, and

some meat. Dat all raise on de place. Stuff for to eat and wear, dat am

made by us cullud folks and dat place am what dey calls se'f-s'portin'.

De shoemaker make all de shoes and fix de leather, too.

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