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SLAVE NARRATIVES

_A Folk History of Slavery in the United States

from Interviews with Former Slaves_

TYPEWRITTEN RECORDS PREPARED BY

THE FEDERAL WRITERS' PROJECT

1936-1938

ASSEMBLED BY

THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS PROJECT

WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

SPONSORED BY THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS

_Illustrated with Photographs_

WASHINGTON 1941

VOLUME XVI

TEXAS NARRATIVES

PART 2

Prepared by the Federal Writers' Project of the Works Progress

Administration for the State of Texas

INFORMANTS

Easter, Willis 1

Edwards, Anderson and Minerva 5

Edwards, Ann J. 10

Edwards, Mary Kincheon 15

Elder, Lucinda 17

Ellis, John 21

Ezell, Lorenza 25

Farrow, Betty 33

Finnely, John 35

Ford, Sarah 41

Forward, Millie 47

Fowler, Louis 50

Franklin, Chris 55

Franks, Orelia Alexie 60

Frazier, Rosanna 63

Gibson, Priscilla 66

Gilbert, Gabriel 68

Gilmore, Mattie 71

Goodman, Andrew 74

Grant, Austin 81

Green, James 87

Green, O.W. 90

Green, Rosa 94

Green, William (Rev. Bill) 96

Grice, Pauline 98

Hadnot, Mandy 102

Hamilton, William 106

Harper, Pierce 109

Harrell, Molly 115

Hawthorne, Ann 118

Hayes, James 126

Haywood, Felix 130

Henderson, Phoebe 135

Hill, Albert 137

Hoard, Rosina 141

Holland, Tom 144

Holman, Eliza 148

Holt, Larnce 151

Homer, Bill 153

Hooper, Scott 157

Houston, Alice 159

Howard, Josephine 163

Hughes, Lizzie 166

Hursey, Moses 169

Hurt, Charley 172

Ingram, Wash 177

Jackson, Carter J. 180

Jackson, James 182

Jackson, Maggie 185

Jackson, Martin 187

Jackson, Nancy 193

Jackson, Richard 195

James, John 198

Johns, Thomas 201

Johns, Mrs. Thomas 205

Johnson, Gus 208

Johnson, Harry 212

Johnson, James D. 216

Johnson, Mary 219

Johnson, Mary Ellen 223

Johnson, Pauline,

and Boudreaux, Felice 225

Johnson, Spence 228

Jones, Harriet 231

Jones, Lewis 237

Jones, Liza 241

Jones, Lizzie 246

Jones, Toby 249

Kelly, Pinkie 253

Kilgore, Sam 255

Kinchlow, Ben 260

Kindred, Mary 285

King, Nancy 288

King, Silvia 290

ILLUSTRATIONS

Facing page

Anderson and Minerva Edwards 5

Ann J. Edwards 10

Mary Kincheon Edwards 15

John Ellis 21

Lorenza Ezell 25

Betty Farrow 33

Sarah Ford 41

Louis Fowler 50

Orelia Alexie Franks 60

Priscilla Gibson 66

Andrew Goodman 74

Austin Grant 81

James Green 87

O.W. Green and Granddaughter 90

William Green, (Rev. Bill) 96

Pauline Grice 98

Mandy Hadnot 102

William Hamilton 106

Felix Haywood 130

Phoebe Henderson 135

Albert Hill 137

Eliza Holman 148

Bill Homer 153

Scott Hooper 157

Alice Houston 159

Moses Hursey 169

Charley Hurt 172

Wash Ingram 177

Carter J. Jackson 180

James Jackson 182

Martin Jackson 187

Richard Jackson 195

John James 198

Gus Johnson 208

James D. Johnson 216

Mary Ellen Johnson 223

Pauline Johnson and Felice Boudreaux 225

Spence Johnson 228

Harriet Jones 231

Harriet Jones

with Daughter and Granddaughter 231

Lewis Jones 237

Lizzie Jones 246

Sam Kilgore 255

Ben Kinchlow 260

Mary Kindred 285

EX-SLAVE STORIES

(Texas)

420285

WILLIS EASTER, 85, was born near Nacogdoches, Texas. He does not

know the name of his first master. Frank Sparks brought Willis to

Bosqueville, Texas, when he was two years old. Willis believes

firmly in "conjuremen" and ghosts, and wears several charms for

protection against the former. He lives in Waco, Texas.

"I's birthed below Nacogdoches, and dey tells me it am on March 19th, in

1852. My mammy had some kind of paper what say dat. But I don't know my

master, 'cause when I's two he done give me to Marse Frank Sparks and he

brung me to Bosqueville. Dat sizeable place dem days. My mammy come

'bout a month after, 'cause Marse Frank, he say I's too much trouble

without my mammy.

"Mammy de bes' cook in de county and a master hand at spinnin' and

weavin'. She made her own dye. Walnut and elm makes red dye and walnut

brown color, and shumake makes black color. When you wants yallow color,

git cedar moss out de brake.

"All de lint was picked by hand on our place. It a slow job to git dat

lint out de cotton and I's gone to sleep many a night, settin' by de

fire, pickin' lint. In bad weather us sot by de fire and pick lint and

patch harness and shoes, or whittle out something, dishes and bowls and

troughs and traps and spoons.

"All us chillen weared lowel white duckin', homemake, jes' one garment.

It was de long shirt. You couldn't tell gals from boys on de yard.

"I's twelve when us am freed and for awhile us lived on Marse Bob

Wortham's place, on Chalk Bluff, on Horseshoe Bend. After de freedom

war, dat old Brazos River done change its course up 'bove de bend, and

move to de west.

"I marries Nancy Clark in 1879, but no chilluns. Dere plenty deer and

bears and wild turkeys and antelopes here den. Dey's sho' fine eatin'

and wish I could stick a tooth in one now. I's seed fifty antelope at a

waterin' hole.

"Dere plenty Indians, too. De Rangers had de time keepin' dem back. Dey

come in bright of de moon and steals and kills de stock. Dere a ferry

'cross de Brazos and Capt. Ross run it. He sho' fit dem Indians.

"Dem days everybody went hossback and de roads was jes' trails and

bridges was poles 'cross de creeks. One day us went to a weddin'. Dey

sot de dinner table out in de yard under a big tree and de table was a

big slab of a tree on legs. Dey had pewter plates and spoons and chiny

bowls and wooden dishes. Some de knives and forks was make out of bone.

Dey had beef and pork and turkey and some antelope.

"I knows 'bout ghostes. First, I tells you a funny story. A old man

named Josh, he purty old and notionate. Every evenin' he squat down

under a oak tree. Marse Smith, he slip up and hear Josh prayin, 'Oh,

Gawd, please take pore old Josh home with you.' Next day, Marse Smith

wrop heself in a sheet and git in de oak tree. Old Josh come 'long and

pray, 'Oh, Gawd, please come take pore old Josh home with you.' Marse

say from top de tree, 'Poor Josh, I's come to take you home with me.'

Old Josh, he riz up and seed dat white shape in de tree, and he yell,

'Oh, Lawd, not right now, I hasn't git forgive for all my sins.' Old

Josh, he jes' shakin' and he dusts out dere faster den a wink. Dat

broke up he prayin' under dat tree.

"I never studied cunjurin', but I knows dat scorripins and things dey

cunjures with am powerful medicine. Dey uses hair and fingernails and

tacks and dry insects and worms and bat wings and sech. Mammy allus tie

a leather string round de babies' necks when dey teethin', to make dem

have easy time. She used a dry frog or piece nutmeg, too.

"Mammy allus tell me to keep from bein' cunjure, I sing:

"'Keep 'way from me, hoodoo and witch,

Lend my path from de porehouse gate;

I pines for golden harps and sich,

Lawd, I'll jes' set down and wait.

Old Satan am a liar and cunjurer, too--

If you don't watch out, he'll cunjure you.'

"Dem cunjuremen sho' bad. Dey make you have pneumony and boils and bad

luck. I carries me a jack all de time. It em de charm wrop in red

flannel. Don't know what am in it. A bossman, he fix it for me.

"I sho' can find water for de well. I got a li'l tree limb what am like

a V. I driv de nail in de end of each branch and in de crotch. I takes

hold of each branch and iffen I walks over water in de ground, dat limb

gwine turn over in my hand till it points to de ground. Iffen money am

buried, you can find it de same way.

"Iffen you fills a shoe with salt and burns it, dat call luck to you. I

wears a dime on a string round de neck and one round de ankle. Dat to

keep any conjureman from sottin' de trick on ma. Dat dime be bright

iffen my friends am true. It sho' gwine git dark iffen dey does me

wrong.

"For to make a jack dat am sho' good, git snakeroot and sassafras and a

li'l lodestone and brimstone and asafoetida and resin and bluestone and

gum arabic and a pod or two red pepper. Put dis in de red flannel bag,

at midnight on de dark of de moon, and it sho' do de work.

"I knowed a ghost house, I sho' did. Everybody knowed it, a red brick

house in Waco, on Thirteenth and Washington St. Dey calls it de Bell

house. It sho' a fine, big house, but folks couldn't use it. De white

folks what owns it, dey gits one nigger and 'nother to stay round and

look after things. De white folks wants me to stay dere. I goes. Every

Friday night dere am a rustlin' sound, like murmur of treetops, all

through dat house. De shutters rattles--only dere ain't no shutters on

dem windows. Jes' plain as anything, I hears a chair, rockin', rockin'.

Footsteps, soft as de breath, you could hear dem plain. But I stays and

hunts and can't find nobody nor nothin' none of dem Friday nights.

"Den come de Friday night on de las' quarter de moon. Long 'bout

midnight, something lift me out de cot. I heared a li'l child sobbin',

and dat rocker git started, and de shutters dey rattle softlike, and dat

rustlin', mournin' sound all through dat house. I takes de lantern and

out in de hall I goes. Right by de foot de stairs I seed a woman, big as

life, but she was thin and I seed right through her. She jes' walk on

down dat hall and pay me no mind. She make de sound like de beatin' of

wings. I jes' froze. I couldn't move.

"Dat woman jes' melted out de window at de end of de hall, and I left

dat place!

420054

[Illustration: Anderson and Minerva Edwards]

ANDERSON AND MINERVA EDWARDS, a Negro Baptist preacher and his

wife, were slaves on adjoining plantations in Rusk County, Texas.

Anderson was born March 12, 1844, a slave of Major Matt Gaud, and

Minerva was born February 2, 1850, a slave of Major Flannigan. As a

boy Andrew would get a pass to visit his father, who belonged to

Major Flannigan, and there he met Minerva. They worked for their

masters until three years after the war, then moved to Harrison

County, married and reared sixteen children. Andrew and Minerva

live in a small but comfortable farmhouse two miles north of

Marshall. Minerva's memory is poor, and she added little to

Anderson's story.

"My father was Sandy Flannigan and he had run off from his first master

in Maryland, on the east shore, and come to Texas, and here a slave

buyer picked him up and sold chances on him. If they could find his

Maryland master he'd have to go back to him and if they couldn't the

chances was good. Wash Edwards in Panola County bought the chance on

him, but he run off from him, too, and come to Major Flannigan's in Rusk

County. Fin'ly Major Flannigan had to pay a good lot to get clear title

to him.

"My mammy was named Minerva and her master was Major Gaud, and I was

born there on his plantation in 1866. You can ask that tax man at

Marshall 'bout my age, 'cause he's fix my 'xemption papers since I'm

sixty. I had seven brothers and two sisters. There was Frank, Joe, Sandy

and Gene, Preston and William and Sarah and Delilah, and they all lived

to be old folks and the younges' jus' died last year. Folks was more

healthy when I growed up and I'm 93 now and ain't dead; fact is, I feels

right pert mos' the time.

"My missy named Mary and she and Massa Matt lived in a hewed log house

what am still standin' out there near Henderson. Our quarters was 'cross

the road and set all in a row. Massa own three fam'lies of slaves and

lots of hosses and sheep and cows and my father herded for him till he

was freed. The government run a big tan yard there on Major Gaud's place

and one my uncles was shoemaker. Jus' 'bout time of war, I was piddlin'

'round the tannery and a government man say to me, 'Boy, I'll give you

$1,000 for a drink of water,' and he did, but it was 'federate money

that got kilt, so it done me no good.

"Mammy was a weaver and made all the clothes and massa give us plenty to

eat; fact, he treated us kind-a like he own boys. Course he whipped us

when we had to have it, but not like I seed darkies whipped on other

place. The other niggers called us Major Gaud's free niggers and we

could hear 'em moanin' and cryin' round 'bout, when they was puttin' it

on 'em.

"I worked in the field from one year end to t'other and when we come in

at dusk we had to eat and be in bed by nine. Massa give us mos' anything

he had to eat, 'cept biscuits. That ash cake wasn't sich bad eatin' and

it was cooked by puttin' cornmeal batter in shucks and bakin' in the

ashes.

"We didn't work in the field Sunday but they have so much stock to tend

it kep' us busy. Missy was 'ligious and allus took us to church when she

could. When we prayed by ourse'ves we daren't let the white folks know

it and we turned a wash pot down to the ground to cotch the voice. We

prayed a lot to be free and the Lord done heered us. We didn't have no

song books and the Lord done give us our songs and when we sing them at

night it jus' whispering to nobody hear us. One went like this:

"'my knee bones am aching,

my body's rackin' with pain,

i 'lieve i'm a chile of god,

and this ain't my home,

'cause heaven's my aim.'

"Massa Gaud give big corn shuckin's and cotton pickin's and the women

cook up big dinners and massa give us some whiskey, and lots of times we

shucked all night. On Saturday nights we'd sing and dance and we made

our own instruments, which was gourd fiddles and quill flutes. Gen'rally

Christmas was like any other day, but I got Santa Claus twict in

slavery, 'cause massa give me a sack of molasses candy once and some

biscuits once and that was a whole lot to me then.

"The Vinsons and Frys what lived next to massa sold slaves and I seed

'em sold and chained together and druv off in herds by a white man on a

hoss. They'd sell babies 'way from the mammy and the Lord never did

'tend sich as that.

"I 'lieve in that hant business yet. I seed one when I was a boy, right

after mammy die. I woke up and seed it come in the door, and it had a

body and legs and tail and a face like a man and it walked to the

fireplace and lifted the lid off a skillet of 'taters what sot there and

came to my bed and raised up the cover and crawled in and I hollers so

loud it wakes everybody. I tell 'em I seed a ghost and they say I crazy,

but I guess I knows a hant when I sees one. Minerva there can tell you

'bout that haunted house we lived in near Marshall jus' after we's

married." (Minerva says, 'Deed, I can,' and here is her story:)

"The nex' year after Anderson and me marries we moves to a place that

had 'longed to white folks and the man was real mean and choked his

wife to death and he lef' the country and we moved in. We heered

peculiar noises by night and the niggers 'round there done told us it

was hanted but I didn't 'lieve 'em, but I do now. One night we seed the

woman what died come all 'round with a light in the hand and the

neighbors said that candle light the house all over and it look like it

on fire. She come ev'ry night and we left our crop and moved 'way from

there and ain't gone back yit to gather that crop. 'Fore we moved in

that place been empty since the woman die, 'cause nobody live there. One

night Charlie Williams, what lives in Marshall, and runs a store out by

the T. & P. Hospital git drunk and goes out there to sleep and while he

sleepin' that same woman come in and nigh choked him to death. Ain't

nobody ever live in that house since we is there."

Anderson then resumed his story: "I 'member when war starts and massa's

boy, George it was, saddles up ole Bob, his pony, and lef'. He stays six

months and when he rid up massa say, 'How's the war, George?' and massa

George say, 'It's Hell. Me and Bob has been runnin' Yankees ever since

us lef'.' 'Fore war massa didn't never say much 'bout slavery but when

he heered us free he cusses and say, 'Gawd never did 'tend to free

niggers,' and he cussed till he died. But he didn't tell us we's free

till a whole year after we was, but one day a bunch of Yankee soldiers

come ridin' up and massa and missy hid out. The soldiers walked into the

kitchen and mammy was churnin' and one of them kicks the churn over and

say, 'Git out, you's jus' as free as I is.' Then they ramsacked the

place and breaks out all the window lights and when they leaves it look

like a storm done hit that house. Massa come back from hidin' and that

when he starts on a cussin' spree what lasts as long as he lives.

"'bout four year after that war pappy took me to Harrison County and

I've lived here ever, since and Minerva's pappy moves from the Flannigan

place to a jinin' farm 'bout that time and sev'ral years later we was

married. It was at her house and she had a blue serge suit and I wore a

cutaway Prince Albert suit and they was 'bout 200 folks at our weddin'.

The nex' day they give us an infair and a big dinner. We raises sixteen

chillen to be growed and six of the boys is still livin' and workin' in

Marshall.

"I been preachin' the Gospel and farmin' since slavery time. I jined the

church mos' 83 year ago when I was Major Gaud's slave and they baptises

me in the spring branch clost to where I finds the Lord. When I starts

preachin' I couldn't read or write and had to preach what massa told me

and he say tell them niggers iffen they obeys the massa they goes to

Heaven but I knowed there's something better for them, but daren't tell

them 'cept on the sly. That I done lots. I tells 'em iffen they

keeps prayin' the Lord will set 'em free. But

since them days I's done studied some and I preached all over Panola and

Harrison County and I started the Edward's Chapel over there in Marshall

and pastored it till a few year ago. It's named for me.

"I don't preach much now, 'cause I can't hold out to walk far and I got

no other way to go. We has a $14.00 pension and lives on that and what

we can raise on the farm.

420219

[Illustration: Ann J. Edwards]

ANN J. EDWARDS, 81, was born a slave of John Cook, of Arlington

County, Virginia. He manumitted his slaves in 1857. Four years

later Ann was adopted by Richard H. Cain, a colored preacher. He

was elected to the 45th Congress in 1876, and remained in

Washington, D.C., until his death, in 1887. Ann married Jas. E.

Edwards, graduate of Howard College, a preacher. She now lives with

her granddaughter, Mary Foster, at 804 E. 4th St., Fort Worth,

Texas.

"I shall gladly relate the story of my life. I was born a slave on

January 27th, 1856, and my master's name was John J. Cook, who was a

resident of Arlington County, Virginia. He moved to Washington, D.C.,

when I was nearly two years old and immediately gave my parents their

freedom. They separated within a year after that, and my mother earned

our living, working as a hairdresser until her death in 1861. I was then

adopted by Richard H. Cain, a minister of the Gospel in the African

Methodist Church.

"I remember the beginning of the war well. The conditions made a deep

impression on my mind, and the atmosphere of Washington was charged with

excitement and expectations. There existed considerable need for

assistance to the Negroes who had escaped after the war began, and Rev.

Cain took a leading part in rendering aid to them. They came into the

city without clothes or money and no idea of how to secure employment. A

large number were placed on farms, some given employment as domestics

and still others mustered into the Federal Army.

"The city was one procession of men in blue and the air was full of

martial music. The fife and drum could be heard almost all the time, so

you may imagine what emotions a colored person of my age would

experience, especially as father's church was a center for congregating

the Negroes and advising them. That was a difficult task, because a

large majority were illiterate and ignorant.

"The year father was called to Charleston, South Carolina, to take

charge of a church, we became the center of considerable trouble. It was

right after the close of the war. In addition to his ministerial duties,

father managed a newspaper and became interested in politics. He was

elected a delegate to the Constitutional Convention of South Carolina in

1868. He was also elected a Republican member of the State Senate and

served from 1868 to 1872. Then he became the Republican candidate for

the United States Representative of the Charleston district, was elected

and served in the 45th Congress from March 4, 1877 to March 3, 1879.

"You can imagine the bitter conflict his candidacy brought on. A Negro

running for public office against a white person in a Southern state

that was strong for slavery does not seem the sensible thing for a man

to do, but he did and was, of course, successful. From the moment he

became delegate to the Constitutional Convention a guard was necessary

night and day to watch our home. He was compelled to have a bodyguard

wherever he went. We, his family, lived in constant fear at all times.

Many times mother pleaded with him to cease his activities, but her

pleadings were of no avail.

"In the beginning the resentment was not so pronounced. The white

people were shocked and dejected over the outcome of the war, but

gradually recovered. As they did, determination to establish order and

prosperity developed, and they resented the Negro taking part in public

affairs. On the other side of the cause was the excess and obstinate

actions of some ignorant Negroes, acting under ill advice. Father was

trying to prevent excesses being done by either side. He realized that

the slaves were unfit, at that time, to take their place as dependable

citizens, for the want of experience and wisdom, and that there would

have to be mental development and wisdom learned by his race, and that

such would only come by a gradual process.

"He entered the contest in the interest of his own race, primarily, but

as a whole, to do justice to all. No one could change his course. He

often stated, 'It is by the Divine will that I am in this battle.'

"The climax of the resentment against him took place when he was chosen

Republican candidate to the House of Representatives. He had to maintain

an armed guard at all times. Several times, despite these guards,

attempts were made to either burn the house or injure some member of the

family. If it had not been for the fact that the officials of the city

and county were afraid of the federal government, which gave aid in

protecting him, the mob would have succeeded in harming him.

"A day or two before election a mob gathered suddenly in front of the

house, and we all thought the end had come. Father sent us all upstairs,

and said he would, if necessary, give himself up to the mob and let them

satisfy their vengeance on him, to save the rest of us.

"While he was talking, mother noticed another body of men in the alley.

They were certainly sinister looking. Father told us to prepare for the

worst, saying, 'What they plan to do is for those in front to engage

the attention of ourselves and the guard, then those in the rear will

fire the place and force us out.' He was calm throughout it all, but

mother was greatly agitated and I was crying.

"The chief of the guard called father for a parley. The mob leader

demanded that father come out for a talk. Then the sheriff and deputies

appeared and he addressed the crowd of men, and told them if harm came

to us the city would be placed under martial law. The men then

dispersed, after some discussion among themselves.

"Father moved to Washington, took the oath of office and served until

March 4th, 1879. He then received the appointment of Bishop of the

African Methodist Church and served until his death in Washington, on

Jan. 18th, 1887.

"I began my schooling in Charleston and continued in Washington, where I

entered Howard College, but did not continue until graduation. I met

James E. Edwards, another student, who graduated in 1881, and my heart

overruled my desire for an education. We married and he entered the

ministry and was called to Dallas, Texas. He remained two years, then we

were called to Los Angeles. The Negroes there were privileged to enter

public eating establishments, but a cafe owner we patronized told us the

following:

"'After a time, I was compelled to refuse service to Negroes because

they abused the privilege. They came in in a boisterous manner and

crowded and shoved other patrons. It was due to a lack of wisdom and

education.'

"That was true. The white people tried to give the Negro his rights and

he abused the privilege because he was ignorant, a condition he could

not then help.

"My husband and I were called to Kansas City in 1896 and from there to

many other towns. Finally we came to Waco, and he had charge of a church

there when he died, in 1927. We had a pleasant married life and I tried

to do my duty as a pastor's wife and help elevate my race. We were

blessed with three children, and the only one now living is in Boston,

Massachusetts.

"I now reside with my granddaughter, Mary Foster, and this shack is the

best her husband can afford. In fact, we are living in destitute

circumstances. It is depressing to me, after having lived a life in a

comfortable home. It is the Lord's will and I must accept what is

provided. There is a purpose for all things. I shall soon go to meet my

Maker, with the satisfaction of having done my duty--first, to my race,

second, to mankind.

* * * * *

Note: The biography of Richard H. Cain is published in the

Biographical Directory of the American Congress.

420008

[Illustration: Mary Kincheon Edwards]

MARY KINCHEON EDWARDS says she was born on July 8, 1810, but she

has nothing to substantiate this claim. However, she is evidently

very old. Her memory is poor, but she knows she was reared by the

Kincheons, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and that she spoke French

when a child. The Kincheons gave her to Felix Vaughn, who brought

her to Texas before the Civil War. Mary lives with Beatrice

Watters, near Austin, Texas.

"When I's a li'l gal my name Mary Anne Kincheon and I's born on the

eighth of July, in 1810. I lives with de Kincheon family over in

Louisiana. Baton Rouge am de name of dat place. Dem Kincheons have

plenty chillen. O, dey have so many chillen!

"I don't 'member much 'bout dem days. I's done forgot so many things,

but I 'members how de stars fell and how scared us was. Dem stars got to

fallin' and was out 'fore dey hits de ground. I don't knew when dat was,

but I's good size den.

"I get give to Massa Felix Vaughn and he brung me to Texas. Dat long

'fore de war for freedom, but I don't know de year. De most work I done

for de Vaughns was wet nuss de baby son, what name Elijah. His mammy

jes' didn't have 'nough milk for him.

"Den I knit de socks and wash de clothes and sometimes I work in de

fields. I he'ped make de baskets for de cotton. De man git white-oak

wood and we lets it stay in de water for de night and de nex' mornin'

and it soft and us split it in strips for makin' of de baskets.

Everybody try see who could make de bes' basket.

"Us pick 'bout 100 pound cotton in one basket. I didn't mind pickin'

cotton, 'cause I never did have de backache. I pick two and three

hunnert pounds a day and one day I picked 400. Sometime de prize give by

massa to de slave what pick de most. De prize am a big cake or some

clothes. Pickin' cotton not so bad, 'cause us used to it and have de

fine time of it. I gits a dress one day and a pair shoes 'nother day for

pickin' most. I so fast I take two rows at de time.

"De women brung oil cloths to de fields, so dey make shady place for de

chillen to sleep, but dem what big 'nough has to pick. Sometime dey sing

"'O--ho, I's gwine home,

And cuss de old overseer.'

"Us have ash-hopper and uses drip-lye for make barrels soap and hominy.

De way us test de lye am drap de egg in it and if de egg float de lye

ready to put in de grease for makin' de soap. Us throwed greasy bones in

de lye and dat make de bes' soap. De lye eat de bones.

"Us boil wild sage and make tea and it smell good. It good for de fever

and chills. Us git slippery elm out de bottom and chew it. Some chew it

for bad feelin's and some jes' to be chewin'.

"Sometimes us go to dances and missy let me wear some her jewl'ry. I out

dances dem all and folks didn't know dat not my jewl'ry. After freedom I

stays with de Vaughns and marries, but I forgit he name. Dat 'fore

freedom. After freedom I marries Osburn Edwards and has five chillen.

Dey all dead now. I can still git 'round with dis old gnarly cane. Jes'

you git me good and scared and see how fast I can git 'round!"

420266

LUCINDA ELDER, 86, was born a slave of the Cardwell family, near

Concord Deport, Virginia. She came to Texas with Will Jones and his

wife, Miss Susie, in 1860, and was their nurse-girl until she

married Will Elder, in 1875. Lucinda lives at 1007 Edwards St.,

Houston, Texas.

"You chilluns all go 'way now, while I talks to dis gen'man. I 'clares

to goodness, chilluns nowadays ain't got no manners 'tall. 'Tain't like

when I was li'l, dey larnt you manners and you larnt to mind, too.

Nowadays you tell 'em to do somethin' and you is jes' wastin' you

breath, 'less you has a stick right handy. Dey is my great

grandchilluns, and dey sho' is spoilt. Maybe I ain't got no patience no

more, like I use to have, 'cause dey ain't so bad.

"Well, suh, you all wants me to tell you 'bout slave times, and I'll

tell you first dat I had mighty good white folks, and I hope dey is gone

up to Heaven. My mama 'long to Marse John Cardwell, what I hear was de

riches' man and had de bigges' plantation round Concord Depot. Dat am in

Campbell County, in Virginny. I don't 'member old missy's name, but she

mighty good to de slaves, jes' like Marse John was.

"Mama's name was Isabella and she was de cook and born right on de

plantation. Papa's name was Gibson, his first name was Jim, and he 'long

to Marse Gibson what had a plantation next to Marse John, and I knows

papa come to see mama on Wednesday and Sat'day nights.

"Lemme see, now, dere was six of us chilluns. My mem'ry ain't so good no

more, but Charley was oldes', den come Dolly and Jennie and Susie and me

and Laura. Law me, I guess old Dr. Bass, what was doctor for Marse John,

use to be right busy with us 'bout once a year for quite a spell.

"Dem times dey don't marry by no license. Dey takes a slave man and

woman from de same plantation and puts 'em together, or sometime a man

from 'nother plantation, like my papa and mama. Mamma say Marse John

give 'em a big supper in de big house and read out de Bible 'bout

obeyin' and workin' and den dey am married. Course, de nigger jes' a

slave and have to do what de white folks say, so dat way of marryin'

'bout good as any.

"But Marse John sho' was de good marse and we had plenty to eat and wear

and no one ever got whipped. Marse John say iffen he have a nigger what

oughta be whipped, he'd git rid of him quick, 'cause a bad nigger jes'

like a rotten 'tater in a sack of good ones--it spoil de others.

"Back dere in Virginny it sho' git cold in winter, but come September de

wood gang git busy cuttin' wood and haulin' it to de yard. Dey makes two

piles, one for de big house and de bigges' pile for de slaves. When dey

git it all hauled it look like a big woodyard. While dey is haulin', de

women make quilts and dey is wool quilts. Course, dey ain't made out of

shearin' wool, but jes' as good. Marse John have lots of sheep and when

dey go through de briar patch de wool cotch on dem briars and in de fall

de women folks goes out and picks de wool off de briars jes' like you

picks cotton. Law me, I don't know nothin' 'bout makin' quilts out of

cotton till I comes to Texas.

"Course I never done no work, 'cause Marse John won't work no one till

dey is fifteen years old. Den dey works three hours a day and dat all.

Dey don't work full time till dey's eighteen. We was jes' same as free

niggers on our place. He gives each slave a piece of ground to make de

crop on and buys de stuff hisself. We growed snap beans and corn and

plant on a light moon, or turnips and onions we plant on de dark moon.

"When I gits old 'nough Marse John lets me take he daughter, Nancy Lee,

to school. It am twelve miles and de yard man hitches up old Bess to de

buggy and we gits in and no one in dat county no prouder dan what I was.

"Marse John lets us go visit other plantations and no pass, neither.

Iffen de patterroller stop us, we jes' say we 'long to Marse John and

dey don't bother us none. Iffen dey comes to our cabin from other

plantations, dey has to show de patterroller de pass, and iffen dey

slipped off and ain't got none, de patterroller sho' give a whippin'

den. But dey waits till dey off our place, 'cause Marse John won't 'low

no whippin' on our place by no one.

"Well, things was jes' 'bout de same all de time till jes' 'fore

freedom. Course, I hears some talk 'bout bluebellies, what dey call de

Yanks, fightin' our folks, but dey wasn't fightin' round us. Den one dey

mamma took sick and she had hear talk and call me to de bed and say,

'Lucinda, we all gwine be free soon and not work 'less we git paid for

it.' She sho' was right, 'cause Marse John calls all us to de cookhouse

and reads de freedom papers to us and tells us we is all free, but iffen

we wants to stay he'll give us land to make a crop and he'll feed us.

Now I tells you de truth, dey wasn't no one leaves, 'cause we all loves

Marse John.

"Den, jus' three weeks after freedom mama dies and dat how come me to

leave Marse John. You see, Marse Gibson what owns papa 'fore freedom,

was a good marse and when papa was sot free Marse Gibson gives him some

land to farm. 'Course, papa was gwine have us all with him, but when

mamma dies, Marse Gibson tell him Mr. Will Jones and Miss Susie, he

wife, want a nurse girl for de chilluns, so papa hires me out to 'em and

I want to say right now, dey jes' as good white folks as Marse John and

Old Missy, and sho' treated me good.

"Law me, I never won't forgit one day. Mr. Will say, 'Lucinda, we is

gwine drive you over to Appomatox and take de chilluns and you can come,

too.' Course, I was tickled mos' to pieces but he didn't tell what he

gwine for. You know what? To see a nigger hung. I gettin' long mighty

old now, but I won't never forgit dat. He had kilt a man, and I never

saw so many people 'fore, what dere to see him hang. I jes' shut my

eyes.

"Den Mr. Will he take me to de big tree what have all de bark strip off

it and de branches strip off, and say, 'Lucinda, dis de tree where Gen.

Lee surrendered.' I has put dese two hands right on dat tree, yes, suh,

I sho' has.

"Miss Susie say one day, 'Lucinda, how you like to go with us to Texas?'

Law me, I didn't know where Texas was at, or nothin', but I loved Mr.

Will and Miss Susie and de chilluns was all wrop up in me, so I say I'll

go. And dat how come I'm here, and I ain't never been back, and I ain't

see my own sisters and brother and papa since.

"We come to New Orleans on de train and takes de boat on de Gulf to

Galveston and den de train to Hempstead. Mr. Will farm at first and den

he and Miss Susie run de hotel, and I stays with dem till I gets married

to Will Elder in '75, and I lives with him till de good Lawd takes him

home.

"I has five chilluns but all dead now, 'ceptin' two. I done served de

Lawd now for 64 years and soon he's gwine call old Lucinda, but I'm

ready and I know I'll be better off when I die and go to Heaven, 'cause

I'm old and no 'count now.

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[Illustration: John Ellis]

JOHN ELLIS, was born June 26, 1852, a slave of the Ellis family in

Johnson County near Cleburne, Texas. He remained with his white

folks and was paid by the month for his labor for one year after

freedom, when his master died and his mistress returned to

Mississippi. He worked as a laborer for many years around Cleburne,

coming to San Angelo, Texas in 1928. He now lives alone and is very

active for his age.

John relates:

"My father and mother, John and Fannie Ellis, were sold in Springfield,

Missouri, to my marster, Parson Ellis, and taken away from all their

people and brought to Johnson County, Texas.

"My marster, he was a preacher and a good man. None of de slaves ever

have better white folks den we did.

"We had good beds and good food and dey teaches us to read and write

too. De buffalo and de antelope and de deer was mos' as thick as de

cattle now, and we was sent out after dem, so we would always have

plenty of fresh meat. We had hogs and cattle too. Any of dem what was

not marked was just as much ours as iffen we had raised dem, 'cause de

range was all free.

"Some of de fish we would catch out of dat Brazos River would be so big

dey would pull us in but finally we would manage to gits dem out. De

rabbits and de 'possum was plentiful too and wid de big garden what our

marster had for us all, we sho' had good to eat.

"I's done all kinds of work what it takes to run a fa'm. My boss he had

only fourteen slaves and what was called a small fa'm, compared wid de

big plantations. After our days work was done we would set up at night

and pick de seed out of de cotton so dey could spin it into thread. Den

we goes out and gits different kinds of bark and boils it to git dye for

de thread 'fore it was spinned into cloth. De chillun jes' have long

shirts and slips made out of dis home spun and we makes our shoes out of

rawhide, and Lawdy! Dey was so hard we would have to warm dem by de fire

and grease dem wid tallow to ever wear dem 'tall.

"We had good log huts and our boss had a bigger log house. We never did

work long into de night and long 'fore day like I hear tell some did. We

didn' have none of dem drivers and when we done anything very bad old

marster he whoop us a little but we never got hurt.

"I didn' see no slaves sold. Dat was done, I hear, but not so much in

Texas. I never did see no jails nor chains nor nothin' like dat either,

but I hears 'bout dem.

"We never worked Sat'days and de colored went to church wid de whites

and jine de church too, but dey never baptized dem so far as I knows.

"We had lots to eat and big times on Christmas, mos' as big as when de

white folks gits married. Umph, um! One of de gi'ls got married once and

she had such a long train on dat weddin' gown 'til me and my sister, we

have to walks along behind her and carry dat thing, all of us a-walkin'

on a strip of nice cloth from de carriage to de church. We sho' have de

cakes and all dem good eats at dem weddin' suppers.

"I nev'r hear tell of many colored weddin's. We jes' jumps over de broom

an' de bride she has to jump over it backwards and iffen she couldn'

jump it backwards she couldn't git married. Dat was sho' funny, seein'

dem colored gi'ls a tryin' to jump dat broom.

"Our boss, he tells us 'bout bein' free and he say he hire us by de

month and we stays dere a year and he dies, den ole miss she go back to

Mississippi and we jes' scatter 'round, some a workin' here and some a

workin' yonder, mos' times for our victuals and clothes. I couldn' tell

much difference myself 'cause I had good people to live wid and when it

was dat way de whites and de colored was better off de way I sees it

den dey is now, some of dem.

"I seem jes' punyin' away, de doctors don' know jes' what's wrong wid me

but I never was use to doctors anyway, jes' some red root tea or sage

weed and sheep waste tea for de measles am all de doctoring we gits when

we was slaves and dat done jes' as well.

"My wife she been dead all dese years an' I jes' lives here alone.

"Chillun? No mam, I never had no chillun 'fore I was married an' I only

had twelve after I was married; yes mam, jes' nine boys and three girls,

but I prefers to live here by myself, 'cause I gits along alright."

420945

[Illustration: Lorenza Ezell]

LORENZA EZELL, Beaumont, Texas, Negro, was born in 1850 on the

plantation of Ned Lipscomb, in Spartanburg County, South Carolina.

Lorenza is above the average in intelligence and remembers many

incidents of slavery and Reconstruction days. He came to Brenham,

Texas, in 1882, and several years later moved to Beaumont, where he

lives in a little shack almost hidden by vines and trees.

"Us plantation was jes' east from Pacolet Station on Thicketty Creek, in

Spartanburg County, in South Carolina. Dat near Little and Big Pacolet

Rivers on de route to Limestone Springs, and it jes' a ordinary

plantation with de main crops cotton and wheat.

"I 'long to de Lipscombs and my mama, Maria Ezell, she 'long to 'em,

too. Old Ned Lipscomb was 'mongst de oldest citizens of dat county. I's

born dere on July 29th, in 1850 and I be 87 year old dis year. Levi

Ezell, he my daddy, and he 'long to Landrum Ezell, a Baptist preacher.

Dat young massa and de old massa, John Ezell, was de first Baptist

preacher I ever heered of. He have three sons, Landrum and Judson and

Bryson. Bryson have gif' for business and was right smart of a orator.

"Dey's fourteen niggers on de Lipscomb place. Dey's seven of us chillen,

my mamma, three uncle and three aunt and one man what wasn't no kin to

us. I was oldest of de chillen, and dey called Sallie and Carrie and

Alice and Jabus and Coy and LaFate and Rufus and Nelson.

"Old Ned Lipscomb was one de best massa in de whole county. You know dem

old patterrollers, dey call us 'Old Ned's free niggers,' and sho' hate

us. Dey cruel to us, 'cause dey think us have too good a massa. One time

dey cotch my uncle and beat him most to death.

"Us go to work at daylight, but us wasn't 'bused. Other massas used to

blow de horn or ring de bell, but massa, he never use de horn or de

whip. All de man folks was 'lowed raise a garden patch with tobaccy or

cotton for to sell in de market. Wasn't many massas what 'lowed dere

niggers have patches and some didn't even feed 'em enough. Dat's why dey

have to git out and hustle at night to git food for dem to eat.

"De old massa, he 'sisted us go to church. De Baptist church have a shed

built behind de pulpit for cullud folks, with de dirt floor and split

log seat for de women folks, but most de men folks stands or kneels on

de floor. Dey used to call dat de coop. De white preacher back to us,

but iffen he want to he turn 'round and talk to us awhile. Us mess up

songs, 'cause us couldn't read or write. I 'member dis one:

'De rough, rocky road what Moses done travel,

I's bound to carry my soul to de Lawd;

It's a mighty rocky road but I mos' done travel,

And I's bound to carry my soul to de Lawd.'

"Us sing 'Sweet Chariot,' but us didn't sing it like dese days. Us sing:

'Swing low, sweet chariot,

Freely let me into rest,

I don't want to stay here no longer;

Swing low, sweet chariot,

When Gabriel make he las' alarm

I wants to be rollin' in Jesus arm,

'Cause I don't want to stay here no longer.'

Us sing 'nother song what de Yankees take dat tune and make a hymm out

of it. Sherman army sung it, too. We have it like dis:

'Our bodies bound to morter and decay,

Our bodies bound to morter and decay,

Our bodies bound to morter and decay,

But us souls go marchin' home.'

"Befo' de war I jes' big 'nough to drap corn and tote water. When de

little white chillen go to school 'bout half mile, I wait till noon and

run all de way up to de school to run base when dey play at noon. Dey

sev'ral young Lipscombs, dere Smith and Bill and John and Nathan, and de

oldest son, Elias.

"In dem days cullud people jes' like mules and hosses. Dey didn't have

no last name. My mamma call me after my daddy's massa, Ezell. Mamma was

de good woman and I 'member her more dan once rockin' de little cradle

and singin' to de baby. Dis what she sing:

"Milk in de dairy nine days old,

Sing-song Kitty, can't you ki-me-o?

Frogs and skeeters gittin' mighty bol!

Sing-song, Kitty, can't you ki-me-o?

(Chorus)

Keemo, kimo, darro, wharro,

With me hi, me ho;

In come Sally singin'

Sometime penny winkle,

Lingtum nip cat,

Sing-song, Kitty, can't you ki-me-o?

Dere a frog live in a pool,

Sing-song, Kitty, can't you ki-me-o?

Sure he was de bigges' fool,

Sing-song Kitty, can't you ki-me-o?

For he could dance and he could sing

Sing-song, Kitty, can't you ki-me-o?

And make de woods aroun' him ring

Sing-song, Kitty, can't you ki-me-o?'

"Old massa didn't hold with de way some mean massas treat dey niggers.

Dere a place on our plantation what us call 'De old meadow.' It was

common for runaway niggers to have place 'long de way to hide and res'

when dey run off from mean massa. Massa used to give 'em somethin' to

eat when dey hide dere. I saw dat place operated, though it wasn't

knowed by dat den, but long time after I finds out dey call it part of

de 'Underground railroad.' Dey was stops like dat all de way up to de

north.

"We have went down to Columbia when I 'bout 11 year old and dat where de

first gun fired. Us rush back home, but I could say I heered de first

guns of de war shot, at Fort Sumter.

"When Gen'ral Sherman come 'cross de Savannah River in South Carolina,

some of he sojers come right 'cross us plantation. All de neighbors have

brung dey cotton and stack it in de thicket on de Lipscomb place.

Sherman men find it and sot it on fire. Dat cotton stack was big as a

little courthouse and it took two months' burnin'.

"My old massa run off and stay in de woods a whole week when Sherman men

come through. He didn't need to worry, 'cause us took care of

everythin'. Dey a funny song us make up 'bout him runnin' off in de

woods. I know it was make up, 'cause my uncle have a hand in it. It went

like dis:

'White folks, have you seed old massa

Up de road, with he mustache on?

He pick up he hat and he leave real sudden

And I 'lieve he's up and gone.

(Chorus)

'Old massa run away

And us darkies stay at home.

It mus' be now dat Kingdom's comin'

And de year of Jubilee.

'He look up de river and he seed dat smoke

Where de Lincoln gunboats lay.

He big 'nuff and he old 'nuff and he orter know better,

But he gone and run away.

'Now dat overseer want to give trouble

And trot us 'round a spell,

But we lock him up in de smokehouse cellar,

With de key done throwed in de well.'

"Right after dat I start to be boy what run mail from camp to camp for

de sojers. One time I capture by a bunch of deserters what was hidin' in

de woods 'long Pacolet River. Dey didn't hurt me, though, but dey mos'

scare me to death. Dey parole me and turn me loose.

"All four my young massas go to de war, all but Elias. He too old.

Smith, he kilt at Manassas Junction. Nathan he git he finger shot at de

first round at Fort Sumter. But when Billy was wounded at Howard Gap in

North Carolina and dey brung him home with he jaw split open, I so mad I

could have kilt all de Yankees. I say I be happy iffen I could kill me

jes' one Yankee. I hated dem 'cause dey hurt my white people. Billy was

disfigure awful when he jaw split and he teeth all shine through he

cheek.

"After war was over, old massa call us up and told us we free but he

'vise not leave de place till de crop was through. Us all stay. Den us

select us homes and move to it. Us folks move to Sam Littlejohn's, north

of Thickettty Creek, where us stay two year. Den us move back to Billy

Lipscomb, de young massa, and stay dere two more year. I's right smart

good banjo picker in dem day. I kin 'member one dem songs jes' as good

today as when I pick it. Dat was:

'Early in de mornin'

Don't you hear de dogs a-barkin'?

Bow, wow, wow!

(Chorus)

'Hush, hush, boys

Don't make a noise,

Massa's fast a-sleepin'.

Run to de barnyard

Wake up de boys

Let's have banjo pickin.'.

'Early in de mornin'

Don't you hear dem roosters crowin'?

Cock-a-doodle-do.

"I come in contac' with de Klu Klux. Us lef' de plantation in '65 or '66

and by '68 us was havin' sich a awful time with de Klu Klux. First time

dey come to my mamma's house at midnight and claim dey sojers done come

back from de dead. Dey all dress up in sheets and make up like spirit.

Dey groan 'round and say dey been kilt wrongly and come back for

justice. One man, he look jus' like ordinary man, but he spring up 'bout

eighteen feet high all of a sudden. Another say he so thirsty he ain't

have no water since he been kilt at Manassas Junction. He ask for water

and he jes' kept pourin' it in. Us think he sho' must be a spirit to

drink dat much water. Course he not drinkin' it, he pourin' it in a bag

under he sheet. My mama never did take up no truck with spirits so she

knowed it jes' a man. Dey tell us what dey gwine do iffen we don't all

go back to us massas and us all 'grees and den dey all dis'pear.

"Den us move to New Prospect on de Pacolet River, on de Perry Clemmons'

place. Dat in de upper edge of de county and dat where de second swarm

of de Klu Klux come out. Dey claim dey gwine kill everybody what am

Repub'can. My daddy charge with bein' a leader 'mongst de niggers. He

make speech and 'struct de niggers how to vote for Grant's first

'lection. De Klu Klux want to whip him and he have to sleep in a holler

log every night.

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