Professor Craig: May I add one word? When a stock and scion unite, the

union is really a mechanical one. It is a union of cells, and in that

respect it is simply mechanical, not a physiological union. The

different life types or character of the scion and top do not fuse, but

we have a mechanical union of cells, and that mechanical union is as

clearly shown forth as possible when we make a section through the point

of union. If your type of cell in the stock differs very materially from

the type of structure in the scion, the union is unsatisfactory. If the

types of tissue are much alike, the union is good and you do not have

either overgrowth of stock or undergrowth of scion very much, but you

have what is called a good union. It is to some extent a question of

mechanics, in my judgment, influenced by the cell structure of stock and

scion. If you have a good, smooth union, the two grow equally. Where you

have overgrowth of scion, you usually have a starved root, because the

food which is to be returned elaborated is checked at the point of

union, the root is starved, and you have a short lived tree, because

your root system, which ought to receive its share of the distributed

food, is underfed, finally weakens, and the whole structure fails.

Professor Lake: You may have mechanical union, but you can't have the

after fusion in which you are going to have proper function of stock and

scion.

Professor Craig: Each cell functions after its own kind. It is a

question of passage or transmission of food through that carrier, after

the union is effected. If the character of the two types differs very

much, the transmission of food is checked and is difficult.

President Morris: There is another mechanical point I'd like to ask

about. When the two types of cells differ, will the difference in degree

of capillarity regulate the amount of pabulum distributed, or does it

depend upon negative and positive pressure?

Professor Craig: That is a very difficult question, because it isn't

settled at the present time what credit we should give to capillarity

and what to root pressure in sap circulation.

Mr. Reed: There is another question I would like to ask Professor Craig.

Supposing you have a mechanical union perfected, what is the difference

in the food that different species of the same genus transmit? Has that

been worked out?

Professor Craig: I don't think so. Of course, there is a difference in

the food. That is proven, because there is a difference in the quality

of the food. The tree machine, the tree factory speaking individually,

evidently makes different products, and that is shown by the different

quality of nuts. That is all we know about it.

Professor Lake: That part below the scion still continues to be normal

hickory, and that part above, pecan, so really it is not a matter of

distribution of water supply by gravity or other pressure, but rather a

distribution of the proper amount of elaborated food; and that is

transmitted through the cell itself, not the cell walls. Because this

top makes a food that is different from the normal requirements, or

because the latent character of those cells below does not respond to

the food supply as actively as the part above, is the whole question, it

seems to me. If the cells below functioned as the cells above, there

would be no question about the stock and scion being the same.

Mr. Littlepage: Of course there must be sufficient flow of sap to

distribute food. The hickory root might not send the flow of sap as fast

as the pecan top would like.

Mr. Reed: Is Mr. Lake's point always true, that the stock below the

point of union remains a normal hickory?

Professor Craig: I don't believe there are more than one or two

exceptions noted to that, and those exceptions are recorded under graft

hybrids.

Mr. Reed: A seedling pecan tree owned by Mr. B. M. Young of Morgan City,

Louisiana, was top worked with scions from the McAllister hican some

seven or eight feet above ground, and later on the bark of the pecan

trunk below the point of union became scaly like that of the hican

above.

Professor Lake: That would suggest something worth while, if that part

below would produce fruit like the part above, but I would want to

question a little the modification in bark characteristics being a

direct result of cross grafting.

Mr. Reed: Of course, it was no check--only one instance.

Professor Craig: There are one or two others that are authentic. I have

known a case of plum. Here we have the plum stock, we will say it is

_Prunus Americana_, grafted with _Prunus triflora_, the Japanese, then

later on, _Prunus domestica_ is put on top. I have seen a sprout from

triflora bearing Japanese plums, while the top of the tree bore _Prunus

domestica_, although there was only a small section of stem in there

between our two distinct species. They were perfectly normal.

President Morris: Each elaborates its own kind of food in its own kind

of cell. I would like to hear from Mr. Brown and Mr. Wilcox on this

matter of grafting--the influence of stock on scion.

Mr. Wilcox: We had a good show of stocks, but instead of allowing them

to become established in the pots, we grafted them as they started into

growth after rooting. Had they been established, we would have expected

better results.

Professor Craig: What method do you employ?

Mr. Wilcox: Side grafting.

Professor Craig: Do you mean whip grafting?

Mr. Wilcox: Side whip grafting.

Doctor Deming: I would like to ask Doctor Morris what he thinks of the

practical future of grafting our hickory seedlings with improved

varieties of hickory or pecan, and the method most likely to

succeed,--whether grafting or budding, and at what season. It is

important to learn whether we can so graft or bud our hickory sprouts

that within a few years we can hope to get something from them.

President Morris: We can only make a parallel with the pecan. If we know

that it requires fifteen or twenty years for coming into bearing as a

seedling tree, and if we know that it bears frequently in two, three, or

four years after being grafted we can anticipate analogous action with

other species of hickories. I haven't been able to get testimony from

men who have grafted hickories. One man told me he thought shagbark

grafted upon other shagbark, topworked, came into bearing in seven or

eight years. Another man told me that his came into bearing in a much

shorter time than it would otherwise, while with one particular variety,

the Hale, I think that twelve years has been required for the tree to

come into bearing.

Doctor Deming: I have a communication from Mr. Hales in which he speaks

of a tree grafted in 1880, but doesn't say when it began to bear.

Mr. Littlepage: He told me it has taken some of them twenty years.

Doctor Deming: But the pecan on hickory has been known to bear the

second season, that is, topworked. Can we expect such results in

topworking our own hickories?

Mr. Littlepage: I think so.

Doctor Deming: Are we going to have success in topworking, and by what

method?

President Morris: I believe in the South they can graft, but in the

North we have got to do it by budding. My best results have been late

July or early August. I believe herbaceous budding promises a good deal.

Mr. Rush: Were those buds then of the year previous?.

President Morris: Those were buds from the year of the scion, and

herbaceous stock of the year.

Doctor Deming: Mr. Littlepage has had some success in budding hickory

very early, haven't you?

Mr. Littlepage: I was just stating that I started in last year to bud. I

think it would be possible to make a pecan orchard bear early by budding

into these hickories, ten, fifteen, or twenty years old. This next year

I am going to try hickory on hickory. I am going to try three processes.

I am going to try bark grafting, and whip grafting in the body of the

tree which has been cut off. Then, I have quite a number of hickories

each four or five inches in diameter that I have sawed off and allowed

to put up clusters of water sprouts, and I am going to whip graft some

and put paper sacks over them, and see which is the best.

President Morris: I have found budding the best.

Mr. Reed: Doctor Morris referred to the analogy of the pecan grafted on

pecan as coming into bearing in two years. Do you account for that in

the fact of its being a graft, or the fact that the wood you selected

came from a tree that had the characteristic of early bearing?

President Morris: No doubt that characteristic was transmitted, and

further, no doubt the grafted stock was used from bearing wood. Those

points are all of interest.

Mr. Reed: Does the mere operation of grafting or budding influence

earliness of bearing?

President Morris: Yes, if I understand the question rightly. A tree that

might not bear for fifteen years as a seedling may bear in three years

grafted.

Mr. Rush: I have Persian walnuts that bore two fine nuts the second

year. I have young trees, one about thirty inches, and I am sure it

will be full of nuts next year, unless some providential misfortune

should intervene.

Mr. Reed: At what age did the original trees begin to bear?

Mr. Rush: Those were buds shipped to me from California.

Mr. Littlepage: I am firmly convinced that there is something in the

process of budding or grafting that stimulates the growth. For example,

I have scions that were not over four to eight inches long grafted on

one year seedling pecans which, at the end of this season's growth, were

as much as thirty inches high. All along in the same row where seedling

pecans were not grafted, there is none over eighteen inches high.

Mr. Reed: To have made exact comparison, you would have had to take buds

from your seedling nursery trees, and graft on other trees. You are

comparing these buds from one tree with seedlings of another.

Professor Lake: I would like to ask if you didn't bud or graft the best

stocks in the row too?

Mr. Littlepage: We took the whole row, as we came to it, but that

particular tree might have been on some particularly favorable stock. It

is a matter of a good deal of interest to see why a seedling which

wasn't budded at all didn't grow as high as a scion which was budded in

summer, stratified all winter, then put into the ground in an unnatural

position.

Professor Craig: It is the same principle, I think, which we discover in

pruning. If we prune heavily during the dormant season, the effect is

increased vegetative growth. If we wish to stimulate the growth of an

old tree somewhat debilitated, we go to work and cut off a large portion

of the top. We don't disturb the root. The effect is that with the same

amount of pushing power from the root, we have a decreased area over

which that energy is spread, and it results in apparently increased

growth. I am not quite sure if we were to measure it up in a scientific

way, we would actually find it was increased growth. There are fewer

branches, but they have made greater length. In the case of grafting our

pecans, we cut off our tops, set a two-bud scion in the root, and

usually but one starts and receives all the vigor from the established

root, instead of the vigor being distributed over several buds on the

original seedling top. We have as a result of that concentration of

vitality increased growth. I think that theoretical explanation will

stand fairly well, because it seems to be directly in line with the

effect of winter pruning.

Mr. Reed: I would like to ask Professor Craig to what extent he would

select seed for nursery purposes? What influence would the characters of

the parent tree from which the seed came have on the grafted tree?

Professor Craig: I don't believe that we can expect the characters of

our stock to affect the scion to any extent. I think what the nurserymen

should have in mind and keep in mind is a good, vigorous stock, and as

many stocks as possible,--as he can get out of a pound of nuts.

Otherwise, I don't think it cuts much figure. In that connection there

is a principle which I have discovered by experience, namely, that if

you are growing stocks it is wise to get your nuts as near your own

locality as possible. My experience last year in planting five hundred

pounds of northern grown nuts in a southern locality, and five hundred

pounds of southern grown nuts in the same locality, gathered in that

locality, is that I got fifty per cent more trees from my southern grown

nuts than northern, and trees that were fully thirty per cent better.

Mr. Littlepage: Where were your northern grown nuts stratified?

Professor Craig: They were not stratified. They were planted as soon as

they were received, and they were received within two weeks from the

time they were taken from the trees.

Mr. Littlepage: I am inclined to believe that if your northern grown

nuts had been stratified in the North, and undergone the customary

freezing and thawing, then had been taken up in the spring, you wouldn't

have seen that difference.

Professor Craig: I think that point is well taken.

President Morris: There is no doubt about that. In that same

connection--I would choose nuts for seed purposes of a mean type, for

the reason that nature is all the while establishing a mean. The big

pecan is a freak. If you plant big or small nuts, you don't get big or

small nuts in return. You get both big and little seeking a mean.

Mr. Roper: The large nut will give a better tree. We have tested that

out.

President Morris: Does that work out logically in that way, is it a

comparative matter all the time?

Mr. Roper: We haven't worked that out in the bearing, but in the nuts in

the row, the small nuts did not produce as large trees as the large

nuts. We never tested the mean nuts. We did select some of the very

smallest we had, and planted one of the northern and one of the southern

type. They came up, but the trees amounted to nothing.

President Morris: The idea I meant to convey was that both very small

and very large nuts are freaks, and neither likely to give as good a

tree as mean types. What would you anticipate, Professor Craig?

Professor Craig: I think that would resolve itself on a practical basis

from the practical standpoint. I think the mean or average sized nut

would give you the best results. There is no doubt, as Mr. Roper said,

the very small nut would give you weak seedlings. On the other hand, you

couldn't afford to use the very largest, so that a mean between large

and small would be the natural thing to choose. But we should do nothing

to discourage the planting of the finest specimens, with the possibility

of getting something unusually good. That is certainly the work for

every amateur.

Professor Lake: Does that statement, that you think it doesn't make much

difference about the parent of the nuts for stock, apply to walnuts?

Professor Craig: I haven't had any experience in walnuts.

Mr. Littlepage: I would like to ask Mr. Roper if he knows of any

examples where selection of fine varieties of seed has not resulted in

getting a more productive variety of the plant which he was producing?

Mr. Roper: Only one, and that wasn't in a tree.

President Morris: In regard to coming true to type, I think records have

been made of many thousands of pecans, and I don't know of any instance

where the progeny resembled the parent closely.

Mr. Pomeroy: Maybe someone could explain one of my failures a few years

ago in planting some Persian walnuts. I went to another tree in western

New York, and got a peck or more. They were planted the same day, in the

same ground, and all came up. Those I got from another tree resembled a

hill of beans, and stayed that way for three years. Why wouldn't those

grow? In soil three feet from those, there were trees growing. Those

nuts never did make trees. The nuts were of good size.

Colonel Van Duzee: As a practical nurseryman, I wouldn't think of

planting nuts from a tree that I didn't know individually. We have had

very much better success with nursery stock where we have chosen as seed

medium sized nuts from vigorous trees with which we were acquainted. In

the case of Mr. Pomeroy, I don't think there is any question but that

the history of his tree would account for the failure. In other words,

his nursery stock was undoubtedly from the results of years of slow

growth on the part of the original tree, or unfavorable conditions of

some kind. I don't quite agree with Professor Craig on the question of

the influence of stock, because I believe it is really a very important

point.

President Morris: We are not here to agree upon anything.

Colonel Van Duzee: I can't speak from the scientific standpoint, but I

am quite sure that in the nursery business I shouldn't care to overlook

that influence.

President Morris: When men agree, it means we are on stale old ground

which has been thrashed over.

THURSDAY AFTERNOON, DECEMBER 14, 1911.

President Morris: The meeting is called to order. The first paper this

afternoon will be that by Mr. J. Franklin Collins of the United States

Department of Agriculture, on the chestnut bark disease.

THE CHESTNUT BARK DISEASE.

J. FRANKLIN COLLINS, Washington, D. C.

I presume some of you know as much about certain features of this

chestnut disease as I do myself; for I have only worked over certain

sides of the whole question. I also presume that you are all acquainted

with the fact that this disease, which is known as chestnut blight or

the chestnut bark disease, is without doubt the most serious disease of

any forest tree which we have had in this country at any time, that is,

so far as its inroads at present appear to suggest.

I want to call your attention to certain general historical facts in

connection with the disease, facts which are familiar to some of you,

but unfamiliar possibly to others. The Forester of the Bronx Zoological

Park, Dr. Merkel, discovered in the fall of 1904, or had his attention

particularly called in 1904 to the fact, that a good many chestnut trees

were dying in his vicinity, a number sufficient to have attracted

especial attention. He looked at the matter carefully, and decided that

there was a definite disease on these trees. He handed specimens over to

Doctor Murrill of the New York Botanical Garden; who worked out the

disease, and decided that it was a new fungus which was causing the

trouble. He named it _Diaporthe parasitica_, the name under which it is

generally known today, although there is some question as to whether

that is the one which should be applied to it. This, you remember, was

in 1904--in the fall.

The first publication which appeared on the disease was in 1906, as I

recall it. The publication which then appeared was Doctor Murrill's upon

his investigations. The disease has spread very rapidly since then, so

that today we know the disease in a general area indicated by the red

color on this map. The green area indicates in a general way the natural

distribution of the common chestnut. Since 1904 investigations upon the

geographical range of the disease have been carried on so far as to show

that the disease is now known over approximately the area indicated in

red on that map. The northern limits of the disease are perhaps in New

York State. Further east, it is known as far north as northern

Massachusetts, mainly in the western part, and it is also known in

Boston. There have been two or three cases of the disease found in the

Arnold Arboretum. On the west, we have two cases in West Virginia, and

the most southern station which I know of is in Bedford County,

Virginia. But those are isolated stations beyond the area which is

indicated here. I shall have a little more to say in regard to the

distribution.

Before speaking of that, I want to call your attention to a few points

in regard to fungi in general, points of common knowledge to all who

have studied fungi or mycology. A fungus is a kind of plant which does

not, on account of the absence of the green coloring matter, manufacture

its own food. It is a plant which has, in other words, no green foliage,

and as it has no green foliage, it must obtain its organic or elaborated

food from some other source. The fungi have very aptly been termed the

tramps of the vegetable kingdom, that is, they live on food prepared by

somebody else. They can take certain organic substances and change them

apparently into other organic matter which can be used by the plant. In

the case of this chestnut fungus, we have a fairly typical fungus in

certain respects. We have a vegetative stage of the fungus which is

nothing more or less than a lot of threadlike structures penetrating the

bark of the chestnut, the inner bark or the middle bark, and there

drawing the organic matter from the bark of the chestnut and

appropriating it to its own use. Fungi, like practically all other

plants, have two stages of existence, one the vegetative or growing

stage, the other the reproductive stage. Sooner or later the fungus will

produce the fruiting bodies, after it has obtained a sufficient amount

of food to justify the formation of these more highly organized

structures. In the case of the fruiting body of the chestnut fungus, we

have very small, pinhead-like structures, which come out to the surface

of the bark, the vegetative portion developing through the interior of

the bark. On smooth bark we find that these fruiting pustules are apt to

appear all over the surface. With bark that is sufficiently old to have

ridges and crevices, we find these fruiting bodies only in the crevices.

These fruiting pustules which you will see on this bark are the

structures which produce the reproductive bodies, these latter being

known as the spores. There are two types of spores which are produced by

this fungus. One is the type which is commonly spoken of as the summer

spore, the other the type which is spoken of as the winter spore. The

winter spore is known from the point of view of the mycologist as the

perfect stage of the fungus, that is, it is the more characteristic of

this particular fungus. If we should make a cross section of the bark,

we should find that the vegetative stage is running through the middle

bark, and commonly the inner bark, sometimes in one place only,

sometimes in the other only, sometimes in both. This vegetative stage

later sends up in various ways a mass of tissue which results in the

formation of pustules. These appear on the surface, sometimes more or

less regularly rounded, sometimes rather irregular. In the case of the

summer spore stage, we have inside the pustules a mass of tissue which

is formed into spores. The interior of the spore mass, or at least

portions of it, is somewhat mucilaginous, so that when moisture is

applied a swelling of the interior mass is produced at a certain stage

and something has to break. As a result, we have a mucilaginous mass

pressed out through the break in the shape of a twisted thread, much the

same as if you take a collapsible tube of paste and pinch it.

Now, one of those summer spore threads may contain anywhere from one to

five million spores. I have tried to estimate the number in a thread of

this sort which was about an eighth of an inch long, and by taking a

certain portion of that thread, mounting it in a drop of water, and then

counting over a certain measured area under the microscope, I have

estimated, by multiplying, that there were 2,400,000 spores in that one

thread. So you can imagine how many of these spores may be produced by a

single diseased area which has produced perhaps four or five hundred of

those pustules, each pustule containing anywhere from one to twenty

threads. Each one of those spores may develop a new diseased area,

provided it is transported to a fresh break in the bark of a chestnut

tree. Fortunately, only a very small fraction of one per cent ever

reaches the proper place for growth.

This last is what I alluded to as the summer spore stage. There is a

winter spore stage, or technically, the ascospore stage, which comes, as

a rule, later in the development of the fungus. In this same pustule,

later in the season, certain sacs are formed. These have long necks

which extend to the top of the pustule. These sacs are sufficiently

large to be seen with the naked eye. They are dark colored. Inside

these, we have a lot of smaller transparent sacs or cases in each of

which we get eight spores, sometimes in one row, sometimes in two rows.

Each spore can propagate the fungus.

We have, then, two types of spores, either one of which can reproduce

the fungus under suitable conditions. There is still another way by

which the disease may be kept going. The vegetative stage can survive

the winter and continue growing the following year.

I will say right here that I am planning to give you merely an outline

of this disease, and have time afterwards for questions which I think in

a meeting of this sort are one of the most productive sources of

information.

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