The topworking of trees in the five-acre block at Philema has been

generally successful where incompatibility is not a problem.

Bearing-size trees topworked one spring will generally produce a few

nuts in the second subsequent growing-season. Growth the first year

after grafting will frequently be as much as 12 feet long and very

stocky. Both cleft grafting and inlay bark grafting have been practiced,

the latter method proving to be the more satisfactory from all

standpoints. In this method of grafting scaffold limbs from 1 to 6

inches in diameter are cut off square across. Scions 6 to 8 inches long

are prepared by making a slanting cut 2 to 3 inches long and ending

about three-fourths through the scion at its basal end. A strip of bark

just wide and long enough to receive the scion, with about one-half of

the upper end of the bevel showing above the cut surface of the stub, is

then removed from the stub. The scion is then nailed into place with

5/8-inch nails and painted over with melted grafting wax. Two or three

scions are required for most stubs. This work is done just as growth is

starting in the spring and the bark is slipping well. The scions may

generally be cut directly from the trees, but sometimes they may need to

be cut several days earlier and stored in damp material in a

refrigerator to keep them dormant.

In south Georgia the Chinese chestnut normally begins growth soon after

March 1, but in some years it has started as much as a month after this

date. Between south and north Georgia there is a differential in the

time growth starts in the spring of one to two weeks. This differential

also carries over into the date of blossoming and the date the harvest

period begins. In south Georgia pollination generally occurs during the

latter part of April and early part of May, and the harvest period

begins about 100 days later. The peak of harvest averages 185 days after

the initiation of growth in the spring. Dormancy comes only after the

first frost sufficiently heavy to kill the leaves, usually about two

months after nut harvest is completed. This period between harvest and

leaf fall is undoubtedly an important factor in the annual bearing habit

of the chestnut in the Southeast since it permits the food reserves in

the tree to be replenished after the crop is mature. This is true under

favorable conditions but does not hold under conditions of crowding, low

soil fertility, or premature defoliation. For best growth and production

the tree should be in foliage approximately nine months out of the year.

+ORCHARD MANAGEMENT+

The planting of chestnut trees in the Southeast should be done as soon

as possible after the trees become dormant in the nursery. They should

be planted on fertile soil which is well drained but not subject to

serious drought injury. The Chinese chestnut cannot withstand a high

water table, or free standing water, but appears to be somewhat

resistant to drought injury when once well established. The chestnut

trees have not yet reached an age at which their largest potential size

has been attained, but trees of 50-foot spread have been observed. It

appears likely, then, that orchards should be planted at 50 to 60-foot

distances on the square, unless closer planting and subsequent thinning

is resorted to in order to build up high nut production per acre at an

earlier age of the orchard. Planting distances of 25 x 25 feet, 30 x 30

feet, 25 x 50 feet, and 30 x 60 feet are recommended for this reason,

but only if the orchardist will plan to thin the stand at 10 to 15 years

of orchard age and at later intervals as required. In no case should the

branches of adjacent trees be allowed to touch as under such conditions

competition between trees will reduce the yield per tree and nut size,

and induce alternate-year bearing.

In planting the young tree it is usually advisable to fill the hole in

which the tree is to be set with top soil, packing it firmly around the

roots as the hole is being filled. Usually no fertilizer is used at the

time of planting, although mixing about a handful of bone meal with the

soil around the roots has given a higher percentage of living trees and

has increased growth the first year. A shallow basin around the tree to

facilitate watering when necessary during the first growing season, or

the application of a mulch around the tree, or both, will be helpful in

obtaining a high percentage of living trees and good growth. Adding

water at the time of planting is good insurance that the soil will be

well settled around the roots. A wrap of newspaper tied loosely around

the trunk of the young tree will aid in preventing winter injury and

sun-scald.

Under conditions of little or no care the seedling chestnut tree will

generally develop several trunks as a result of the forcing of multiple

sprouts from near the ground line. The tree should be trained to one

trunk, as such a form seems to be less susceptible to winter injury

while young and makes a much more desirable orchard tree when older.

Pruning of the young trees subsequent to the development of the head at

a 4 to 5-foot height should be confined to the removal of crossing

branches and those so near to the ground as to interfere with the

necessary cultivation and harvesting work under the tree.

Most soils in the Southeast are somewhat low in fertility and must

receive good care if chestnuts are to grow well. The annual application

of commercial fertilizers is generally required as is the growing of a

winter green manure crop, preferably a legume. One of the most

satisfactory systems is to plant hairy vetch, Austrian winter peas, or

blue lupine[6] in late October or early November, applying broadcast at

the time of planting from 400 to 600 pounds per acre of a 0-14-10 or

0-14-7 fertilizer mixture. This green manure crop should then be disced

in by April 15 of the following spring, with subsequent shallow

cultivations at about six-week intervals through the growing season. The

ground should be clean by the middle of August to facilitate harvesting

the nuts. If such a system of culture is not feasible, as on too steep

slopes or around buildings, mowing or mulching can be used to advantage,

but the trees must be given annual applications of a complete fertilizer

mixture, such as 4-8-6, 6-8-8, or 5-7-5. These should be made each year

about a month before growth starts at a rate of 2 to 3 pounds for each

year of tree age. This should be broadcast under and slightly beyond the

spread of the branches.

It has not yet been found necessary to spray the trees for the control

of any disease or insect. This does not indicate that control measures

may not be required at some time in the future, for it is the history of

horticultural crops when planted in any concentration that diseases and

insects increase in number and degree of injury. As yet, the chestnut

weevil has not been found at the lower elevations in the Southeast.

In a few plantings a condition causing some premature defoliation has

been observed at infrequent intervals. The condition begins as a leaf

scorch which may or may not develop to the point where the leaf drops.

It is thought to be caused by some mineral deficiency or unbalance

associated with erratic weather conditions, but the exact cause is yet

unknown. A leaf spot disease has been observed but has caused no

appreciable defoliation and no control measures have been thought

necessary.

[Footnote 6: Blue lupine is winter-hardy only in the warmer coastal

areas, not adapted north of Columbus, Georgia, Meridian, Mississippi, or

Shreveport, Louisiana. Ed.]

+Harvesting and Nut Storage+

Harvesting of Chinese chestnuts has proved to have definite requirements

if the nuts are to be obtained in the best possible condition. The nuts

are quite susceptible to rots of several kinds and must be properly

handled to keep losses at a minimum. They are also very easily and

quickly injured by exposure to the sun, with the consequent, high

temperatures and drying. If the nuts are to be stored for any length of

time, as is necessary when they are to be used for seed purposes and as

will be necessary when they are to be marketed for eating purposes

during the Thanksgiving and Christmas holiday seasons, it is paramount

that they be picked up from the orchard at not more than two-day

intervals. Cleaning up all dropped nuts at daily intervals is most

desirable.

At the end of each day the harvested nuts must be placed in cold storage

at temperatures between 32 deg.F. and 45 deg.F. It has been found that a nearly

air-tight container is required in order to maintain a relative humidity

of 100% and prevent too much drying of the nuts. A 50-pound tin lard can

with one 20d nail hole in the side near the lid has proven to be a good

container for large quantities and these same cans also make good

shipping containers merely by wiring on the lids. One-gallon friction

top syrup cans with a single nail hole in the side make a good container

for smaller quantities. In air-tight containers the nuts do not decay

but germination capacity is quickly destroyed and bitter flavors develop

quite rapidly. Nuts to be used for eating purposes shortly after harvest

may be stored at lower relative humidities but should be placed in cold

storage. A loss of about 15% in weight from the fresh weight of nuts is

necessary to reach proper eating quality. Nuts dried to this extent are

sweet and palatable but cannot be stored for any length of time and fail

to germinate well when planted.

The experimental study of chestnut storage problems is being continued

with the hope of working out still better methods. The manner of

marketing chestnuts so that they will reach the consumer in a desirable

condition also is still to be worked out, but it appears possible that

retail cold storage and packaging in moisture-proof bags which are

pervious to CO_{2} and O_{2} give promise at present. Probably the most

promising aid to an increased storage life of chestnuts will come

through the selection of trees for propagation and planting that produce

nuts of superior resistance to storage rots. There is rather great

variation among seedlings in this respect, some being-quite superior,

although no completely resistant seedlings have yet been found.

+Discussion and Conclusions+

The perishable nature of the nuts of the Chinese chestnut has probably

been the greatest drawback to an earlier acceptance of this crop as an

adjunct to the horticulture of the Southeast. It has been only in the

past few years that enough has been learned about the harvesting and

storage requirements to permit the storing of these chestnuts so that

they can be marketed in an orderly manner either for eating or for seed

purposes. Storage losses through periods up to six months have been held

to less than 10% for a mixture of nuts from all the trees at Philema.

Storage tests of nuts from individual trees have shown a range in

keeping quality from no loss after six months' storage to nearly 100%

loss. By culling out the trees producing nuts with a high rate of

spoilage under the best storage conditions it should be possible to

reduce storage losses to a minimum. Every grower of seedling trees

should follow this same process of culling out or topworking trees

producing nuts of poor keeping quality if the industry is to grow and

prosper, since otherwise the offering of spoiled nuts for sale to the

consumer will soon destroy the demand for the nuts.

There is no question but that the Chinese chestnut tree is very well

adapted to the Southeast. It has proven to be healthy, vigorous, and

productive. Yield records at Philema show actual yields of more than

1,000 pounds per acre and potential average annual yields of 1,500 or

more pounds per acre are not out of reason. In 1947, in the Brown tract

at Philema, if all the trees that bore nuts had been collected into a

solid block the yield per acre would have been nearly 2,500 pounds.

Crowding of the trees in the Brown tract is becoming serious at 11 years

of age with a 25 x 25 foot spacing. Alternate-year bearing is becoming

apparent and the stand of trees must be thinned immediately. Because of

such potential yields and because rather extended storage of nuts of

varied keeping quality is now economically possible the future of the

chestnut industry in the Southeast is very promising.

The selection and propagation of selected seedlings is desirable as a

means of advancing the industry at a more rapid rate. The propagation of

selected seedlings offers a problem because of lack of compatibility

between some stocks and scions. Since the chestnut is almost completely

cross-pollinated it may be necessary to develop special plantings of two

or three selections as a source of seed nuts for the production of

stocks. Such plantings might possibly produce seedlings of quite uniform

and desirable characteristics, but this prospect, is not very promising.

Certainly, the evidence points to the conclusion that scion selections

must be worked on stocks of the same strains if incompatibility is to be

held at a minimum.

There is a further problem in the propagation of varieties on seedling

rootstocks in the nursery. Only one propagator appears to be having much

success in this art but others must learn it. Topworking of older trees

by the inlay bark graft is generally successful and older seedling

orchards can be worked over to improved selections without difficulty so

long as the stocks are of compatible strains. Time will be required to

work out the details of the solution for this problem but they will be

worked out.

In the selection of improved seedlings for propagation the strictest

attention should be paid to the important characteristics of tree

vigor, precocity, productiveness, nut size, attractiveness, and keeping

and eating quality, and type of bur opening. These characteristics have

been previously discussed but it is well to emphasise their importance.

The tree that comes into bearing at an early age seems likely to be more

productive in later years. The nuts should be no smaller than 45 nuts to

the pound and be attractive to the eye of the buyer. Most individuals

prefer nuts with a bright and shining surface free of fuzz and with a

fairly rich mahogany or chocolate color. Keeping quality is, of course,

of great importance and should be carefully determined. Eating quality

is generally good but distinctly superior selections may be found in the

future. For the most part eating quality is dependent on the proper

curing of the nuts. The type of bur opening is more important than

usually considered, as it materially affects the satisfactory harvesting

of the nuts. From the commercial standpoint it appears that the most

desirable bur should drop from the tree with the nuts still in it but be

well split so that the nuts can be readily removed. Such a bur type

prevents exposure of the enclosed nuts to the hot sun while on the tree

and reduces injurious drying to a minimum yet permits rapid gathering of

the nuts in the burs for later mechanical separation. Nuts that drop

free from the burs are more subject to injury by drying and require more

hand work in gathering. Burs that do not split readily would be more

difficult to separate mechanically; and mechanical aids will be

necessary for the economical daily gathering of the nuts in commercial

orchards.

If is encouraging to note that many of the present new plantings in the

Southeast are being made by orchardists rather than hobbyists. Many home

owners are planting a few trees but the acceptance of the Chinese

chestnut for commercial production by men already growing other orchard

crops portends the future success of the industry. The hobbyist has been

of great service and should be given full credit for his far-sighted

interest in a crop that now has commercial promise, especially in the

Southeast. Much experimental work is still needed by both State and

Federal agencies and by individuals. This work needs be concerned now

more with details of refinement rather than with basic possibilities of

the crop.

* * * * *

President Davidson: Mr. Carroll D. Bush, of whom I am sure you have

often heard and whom very few of you, including myself, have met, of

Grapeview, Washington, will now tell us something about the Marketing of

Chestnuts on the Pacific Coast. Mr. Bush.

Marketing Chestnuts on the Pacific Coast

CARROLL D. BUSH, Grapeview, Washington

Mr. Bush: Friends of the Association: There are so many here that I have

known through correspondence that I have welcomed this opportunity to

say something to you today. I don't think that I will add very much to

anything that has been said. I hope perhaps we will have some ideas from

what we have been doing on the Coast.

We were in the nursery business near Portland, and during the war we

went out of it, but we are working back in trees again[7], and all this

time we have been preaching the gospel of nut trees, and we find that we

can't preach a gospel unless there is some reward. There is no market

for chestnuts in our section of the country, and yet we had quite a few

of them around Portland. We could not talk about chestnut trees when

there was no market. Buyers there had been offering as low as three

cents a pound or not buying them at all, and we, ourselves, had quite a

few nuts to sell. So I took a trip up to Seattle and found a commission

man there that would take our nuts and arranged with him, and we have

sent nuts to Seattle ever since that year and got a very good price.

Then a neighbor had me send some of his, and we are still sending nuts.

+Introduced on Mid-West Markets+

The next year through Carl Weschcke of St. Paul I got in touch with a

reliable Minneapolis firm. They evidently had been burned and they were

somewhat skeptical. They said if we would send a sample there they would

look them over. So I went out and picked up a mixed sample and shipped

to Minneapolis, and they said if we could send nuts as good as the

sample they could use some.

We began to send them. When we shipped them we made sure we sent nuts

that were considerably better than the sample, and the rewards for

shipping there were also very good. Then we went on to Chicago, and we

have been shipping to Chicago over since. At this time I am out here to

find a little more market for some of the nuts that we have in Oregon.

At first we put the nuts in cold storage at about 32 degrees, expecting

to get a better price on the Thanksgiving market. We found out that we

were making a mistake and that the earliest nuts on the market brought

us our best price. So now we are shipping just as early as we can ship.

We first adopted the western cranberry box as being open enough to allow

a little drying off and tight enough so that it wouldn't allow too much

and yet we didn't get any mold. We were very much afraid of that,

because a good many of the California chestnuts had molded on the way to

market. Later we turned to the splint bushel basket, and lately we have

been in favor of the half-bushel basket. There seem to be buyers who

don't like to stock up more than a half bushel at a time, chestnuts

being of a rather high price. They dry out too fast.

We found that cold storage above 32 degrees keeps chestnuts in good

condition with little dry-out. One dealer in Oregon we know of wraps his

cold storage nuts in waterproof paper, keeps them that way clear on into

January. A very little mold will develop on chestnuts kept in storage

from 32 to 35 degrees, but not enough so we take any precaution. We have

had a few batches that people have stood in sacks on damp nights, and

they started to mold, especially on the open end, and we find we can

kill the mold with Clorox. We have just used a little Clorox in water.

We think this would prevent mold from developing on all nuts if they

were put through a chlorine bath. We haven't taken the trouble to do

that. I might say our walnuts, and filberts have been put through a

chlorine solution, and, of course, after a chlorine solution is used you

have to put the nuts through water again and wash that off.

We have on our place a nice washer. We have graded the European

varieties, which we handle mostly, into three grades: standard, fancy,

and extra fancy, by size. All our grading has been done by hand, except

we expect to have a simple grader this year.

[Footnote 7: Mr. Bush informed the secretary by letter, early in 1949,

that he did not then have any nursery stock ready for sale at his Eagle

Creek, Oregon, nursery. From that location about 10 years ago he

introduced, under numbers, three selections of Chinese chestnuts grown

from seed imported in the early 30's. Two of these, in 1941, were named

Abundance and Honan. The Abundance is now considered one of the most

desirable varieties from Oklahoma to Pennsylvania, while Honan is

slightly less desirable.--Ed.]

+"Sweet" Nuts Sell Faster+

We have a few "sweets." All of those on our farms are Riehl varieties,

hybrids, I think. All of our European chestnuts have an astringent

pellicle, heavy with tannic acid. We classify as sweets any of those

that have a pellicle that is sweet enough to be eaten. We label these

the sweets and mark them as they go into the market. And while, I say,

we don't seem to get a better price for the sweets than for the

European, they do sell faster. There are some people in the eastern

cities that are grabbing these in preference to the large ones. While

the large nuts sell very well, I suppose they go to the Italians and

Europeans who are used to cooking them, and out on the West Coast

nothing but the large nut goes; the larger the better. In the Seattle

market we try to send in large nuts.

We also grade out all "cracks" by hand. They mold easily, and we have a

lot of cracked nuts in our climate there, but we have been able to

dispose of all of these through the Seattle market where they move off

very fast and are lower priced.

+California Supplies Distant Markets+

Last winter we went to California and looked into the chestnut market

there. We found them in the Sierras and found them growing in the Coast

Range without irrigation, but the largest growers were in the San

Joaquin Valley near Stockton. The largest grove was 30 acres at Linden

owned by Caesar De Martini. He gave us our best insight into California

chestnut growing. He used to grade and package his own, and he still has

his cylinder grader. It has three different size holes, one inch, one

and a quarter and one and a half. Anything that goes through the

one-inch hole is discarded as a cull. That leaves three sizes, the size

that goes through the one and a quarter, the one and a half, and the

size that goes out the end, which is, of course, a class of jumbos.

All the chestnuts in California, I think, now go to buyers to do the

grading and packing much as De Martini worked out. All of the California

nuts have to be soaked in water just as Mr. Jones does, as they come to

the packer dried out. The largest buyer that we found in California

shipped about seven carloads, and he shipped them all over the world,

the Philippines, Honolulu, Alaska, and other places where the chestnut

hasn't been growing.

+Early Autumn Best Marketing Season+

Now, I am going to sum up what our experience has been and what we

recommend as general from our experience. Your experience may be

different. We clean the nuts, wash them, if necessary, grade them; large

and small nuts do not sell well together. We would pack in baskets, half

bushel for sweets. We are trying to make that half bushel basket the

mark of the sweet nut in the markets where we sell, so that when a buyer

comes in there and sees a half bushel basket he knows that's sweets.

Then we ship as wet as possible, and they dry out on the way. And just

as fast as we can get those nuts off the ground we pack them and ship

them. Our greatest trouble now is, of course, the imported chestnut.

They are beginning to come in in great quantities, and they hit the

market in Chicago last year at about the 20th of October, and we tried

to beat that line if we possibly can with our nuts, because just the

minute the carloads of chestnuts come in on the East Coast the market

drops right down.

Without question we could use some of the preparations that we use on

filberts to put a gloss on the chestnut, run them through, I think it is

a paraffin mixture, put a gloss on the shell and give us a better

chestnut in the market, make it look nicer and, of course, make it sell

better.

+"Stick-tight" Burs Preferred for Pacific Coast+

I disagree, I think, with two of the former speakers in regard to the

chestnut that falls free from the bur. I would prefer a chestnut that

sticks tight to the bur. We have threshers out there that thresh them

out. We can pick up those nuts in the bur with a shovel or fork, throw

them into the wagon, take them in the wagon, thresh them out. You have a

cleaner nut, you don't have to pick around on the ground with rubber

gloves that we use, which is easy enough, but it certainly adds a great

deal of work as compared to threshing them out easily after they are

once picked up.

I thank you.

* * * * *

President Davidson: Thank you, Mr. Bush. We are glad to have that

western angle. It is going to be very useful to us.

Next on the program is a paper on the Control of the Chestnut Weevil,

the author of which is absent, but I believe Mr. Gravatt is going to

read that.

Chestnut Weevils and Their Control with DDT

E. R. VAN LEEUWEN

United States Department of Agriculture, Agricultural Research

Administration, Bureau of Entomology and Plant Quarantine, Division of

Fruit Insect Investigations.

Failure of the American chestnut to resist the chestnut blight has

resulted in the planting of a few blight-resistant species obtained from

foreign lands. These foreign chestnuts would now be planted more

extensively in certain districts, were it not for the fact that the nuts

are injured by two species of weevils, for which heretofore there has

been no practical control.

The 1947 season marks the fourth year of the experimental use of DDT for

control of the chestnut weevils. During these years our knowledge of the

spray and how best to use it has been advanced by conducting laboratory

and field tests. Unfortunately, few chestnut orchards now exist in the

Eastern States, and the scattered plantings consist mostly of a large

number of Asiatic seedlings, some of which had to be top-worked to other

Asiatic species and varieties. Many of these trees are grown for

ornamental, shade, or timber purposes rather than for nut production.

Owing to these conditions and to a series of spring frosts since 1945,

it has been impossible to conduct insecticide experiments on an adequate

basis of replicated plats.

Although much is to be learned regarding time of application of the

sprays and the proper dosage, the use of DDT can be recommended as a

standard practice, because it has proved highly valuable in protecting

chestnut trees from heavy losses due to the chestnut weevil. It is the

purpose of this paper to discuss some of the experiments that have been

made with DDT and the observations made on the time of egg deposition.

+Nature and Extent of Injury+

The worms attacking chestnuts are the larvae of two very similar species

of weevils, one larger than the other. The adults are medium-sized

beetles having extremely long, slender beaks. With these they drill

through the husk of the nuts, making openings through which they insert

their eggs into the nuts. From these eggs the familiar worms develop.

Weevil injury varies greatly in different chestnut-growing localities.

It is not unusual for 50 to 75 percent of the nuts to be wormy, and

often infestation reaches 90 to 100 per cent. The small weevil does the

most damage, but there are indications that this may not always be true.

Because the mouth parts of the adult are situated at the end of an

extremely long and slender beak, it can obtain most of its food from

beneath the surface of the host plant. For this reason, stomach poisons

applied to trees have not been eaten by these weevils, and hence have

been of no practical value. As DDT kills by contact, it is necessary

only for the body of the insect to come in contact with DDT.

+Life Histories of the Weevils+

In the vicinity of Beltsville, Md., the adults of the large chestnut

weevil[8] leave the soil about August 15. The date will vary, of course,

with season and locality. Both males and females soon begin to feed by

piercing the burs with their long beaks. Mating begins soon after the

weevils collect on the trees, and egg laying follows shortly. The eggs

hatch within a few days and the worms develop within the nut. A few of

the worms will complete their growth and leave before the nuts fall, but

most of them emerge from the nuts after they have fallen. The worms then

enter the soil, where they build cells and remain until they change to

pupae the following summer. This weevil has a one-year cycle, or one

generation a year.

The life history of the small chestnut weevil[9] is somewhat similar,

except that in the vicinity of Beltsville the weevils leave the soil

late in May or early in June, when the trees are in bloom. Several weeks

later the females deposit eggs in the nuts. At Beltsville, egg laying

begins late in August and continues for several weeks. After the nuts

have fallen from the tree, the full-grown larvae leave them and enter

the soil. Earthen cells are constructed at a depth of 4 to 12 inches,

where some of the larvae remain for two winters.

The small chestnut weevil completes its life cycle in two years, and a

small percentage requires three years, whereas the large chestnut weevil

completes its transformation from egg to adult in one year. The large

weevils pass the winter as larvae, whereas the small weevils pass one

winter as larvae and the second winter as adults. With the few

individuals of the small weevil which require three years for

transformation, the first two winters are passed in the ground as larvae

and the third in the same location as adults. This habit of the small

weevil complicates control measures, as one season's spraying with DDT

does not reduce the entire infestation of weevils.

[Footnote 8: +Curculio proboscideus+ Fab.]

+Proper Time for Spray Applications+

Application of DDT sprays at the proper time is very important. An

examination in 1944 of many unopened chestnut burs disclosed the fact

that eggs of the small chestnut weevil were being deposited many weeks

before the burs would open. It was also noted that great numbers of the

larvae were leaving the nuts soon after the burs cracked open. Evidently

these full-grown larvae had hatched from eggs deposited several weeks

before the burs split.

In 1945, 1946, and 1947, cloth bags were tied over developing burs at

various intervals during the season to prevent further egg laying in the

nuts. At harvest time, the bags were removed and the nuts examined.

Occasionally adults were hidden among the spines of the burs and were

inadvertently enclosed in the bags; therefore, all nuts in bags

containing female adults that might have continued ovipositing were

discarded. The data in Table 1 show the approximate time prior to which

the nuts were infested.

Because of difficulty in obtaining sufficient burs for bagging, and

other orchard conditions, the results of these studies were far from

conclusive. They indicated, however, that many eggs had been deposited

in the nuts before the burs had reached maturity. They also suggested

that the seasonal histories of the two species are closely parallel. At

Glenn Dale, Md., and Fairfax, Va., the small weevils predominated,

constituting about 69 to 90 per cent of the total numbers taken. At

Elkton, Md., only 42 per cent of the weevils were of the small species.

[Footnote 9: Curculio auriger Casey.]

Table 1. Results of studies to determine the time of oviposition of the

chestnut weevils.

Nuts Infested with

Date of Total Small Large Wormy

Bagging Nuts Chestnut Chestnut Nuts

Nuts Bagged Weevil Weevil

Year and Orchard

Number Number Number Percent

1945 July 9 52 2 5 13

Glenn Dale, Md. Aug. 1 46 4 2 13

Aug. 15 107 18 11 27

Fairfax, Va. Aug. 21 110 22 13 32

Sept. 12 123 63 11 60

1946 July 12 65 0 0

Glenn Dale, Md. July 18 40 0 0

July 26 67 0 0

Aug. 1 71 0 0

Aug. 9 29 1 0 3

Aug. 14 88 3 2 6

Aug. 23 53 18 2 38

Aug. 29 53 23 11 64

Fairfax, Va. July 26 98 0 0 0

Aug. 15 168 0 0 0

Sept. 4 164 139 16 95

1947 Aug. 15 54 5 1 11

Glenn Dale, Md. Aug. 25 38 8 0 21

Sept. 2 24 7 1 33

Sept. 9 42 18 4 52

Sept. 15 56 29 7 64

Sept. 22 90 27 11 64

Sept. 29 143 83 22 73

Fairfax, Va. Aug. 26 35 9 1 29

Sept. 10 58 25 4 50

Sept. 28 50 35 7 84

Oct. 7 217 177 22 92

Elkton, Md. Aug. 21 139 11 13 17

Sept. 4 83 22 25 57

Sept. 18 116 21 35 48

Oct. 1 108 31 44 69

+Spray Experiments in 1944+

Shortly after adults of the large chestnut weevil first appeared in the

orchards in 1944, six trees isolated from other chestnuts were selected

for treatment. Five trees were sprayed with from 1 to 5 pounds of

technical DDT plus 1/2 pound of sodium lauryl sulfate to 100 gallons of

water, and the sixth tree was left untreated as a check. A thorough

application of a coarse, drenching spray at a pressure of 400 pounds per

square inch was used in an attempt to force the DDT between the many

spines of the burs. The DDT used was very coarse, and difficulty was

experienced in getting a proper suspension. This formula was used,

however, in preference to one which contained other ingredients that

might have formed a protective coating over the particles of DDT. Heavy

rains prevented later spray applications.

Adult weevils obtained by jarring untreated trees were then confined in

screen cages placed over the lower branches of the trees. At the end of

each cage was a cloth sleeve which was tied to the limb to hold the cage

in place. The treatments used and the results are given in Table 2.

Table 2. Percentage mortality of chestnut weevils placed in field cages

on trees at different intervals after they had been sprayed with with

DDT, 1944.

Strength of

DDT (lb. per Small Chestnut Weevil Large Chestnut Weevil

100 gal.) 48 Hrs. 96 Hrs. 144 Hrs. 48 Hrs. 96 Hrs. 144 Hrs.

1 0 61 100 25 50 100

2 19 69 100 0 34 100

3 4 50 100 0 40 100

4 27 87 100 0 50 100

5 18 50 100 30 46 100

Check 0 0 0 0 7 7

Although the results obtained the first few days in the cages containing

treated foliage were somewhat irregular, because of the small numbers of

tests made, all weevils were killed within 6 days. The results indicate

definitely that DDT is toxic to the adults of both species of weevils.

No consistent differences between species were noted.

As the matured nuts dropped from the treated trees, daily collections

were made, and one-third of each collection was used as a sample in

determining the percentage of wormy nuts. At the time the nuts drop, the

holes in the shell through which the eggs were inserted are very

difficult to detect. The nuts were therefore held in wire baskets to

permit most of the larvae to emerge before the final examination. All

nuts not showing exit holes were cut open to find out whether they were

wormy. The marked increase in clean nuts after all treatments indicates

that DDT is a promising insecticide for use against the weevils. The

treatment and infestation records for the sprayed trees and the check

tree are given in Table 3, which also includes the results obtained in

later years.

+Spray Experiments 1945 to 1947+

Spring frosts in 1945 destroyed 95 per cent of the crop of chestnuts in

the Eastern States. Only six trees of different species and ages in the

Government orchard at Glenn Dale, had sufficient nuts for experimental

purposes. Applications of a 50 per cent DDT wettable powder in the

proportions of 4 and 6 pounds plus 1/2 gallon of summer oil as a sticker

to 100 gallons of water were made on August 20 and September 9.

Spring frosts again damaged the orchards in 1946, destroying about 80

per cent of the possible chestnut crop, and leaving only eight trees in

the Government orchard that were suitable for experimental purposes. The

remaining trees having a small scattered crop were disregarded. A

mixture consisting of equal parts by weight of DDT and kaolin 41 was

used in the strength of 2 pounds of DDT to 100 gallons of water. The

time and number of applications were varied.

Table 3. Results of spray tests with DDT against chestnut weevils,

1944-1947.

Larvae Emerging from Sample

Reduction

Nuts Small Large Wormy of

DDT (per Application in Chestnut Chestnut Nuts Injured

100 gal.) Sample Weevil Weevil Nuts

Year

Pounds Number Number Number Percent Percent

Government Orchard, Glenn Dale, Md.

1944 1 Aug. 14 533 1896 21 44 42

2 646 402 45 25 67

3 712 421 5 18 76

4 951 814 5 22 71

5 1844 850 10 16 79

0 976 3238 100 76

1945 2 Aug. 20 & Sept. 9 660 434 38 30 57

3 305 285 58 22 69

0 297 1164 61 70

1946 2 Aug. 15 & 30, Sept. 11 621 131 12 9 90

2 Aug. 15 & 30 371 171 23 19 79

2 Aug. 30 & Sept. 11 292 87 21 26 71

2 Aug. 15 & Sept. 11 949 553 190 43 53

2 Aug. 30 1267 1407 98 43 53

2 Aug. 15 1212 3207 66 43 53

2 Sept. 11 368 1832 53 58 36

0 870 5364 134 91

1947 2 Aug. 13 & 29, Sept. 12 4084 3817 234 30 66

2 Aug. 13 & 29 2618 4255 151 52 40

2 Sept. 12 3029 9498 402 79 9

2 Aug. 13 2639 5049 198 51 41

0 974 4714 121 87

Van Reynolds Orchard, Elkton, Md.

1947 2 Aug. 21, Sept. 4 & 18 1153 264 64 14 84

2 Sept. 4 & 18 338 5 118 67 23

2 Aug. 21 & Sept. 18 149 18 59 34 61

2 Aug. 21 & Sept. 4 669 102 12 51 41

2 Sept. 18 324 63 129 77 11

2 Sept. 4 270 303 67 56 36

2 Aug. 21 500 192 127 57 34

0 338 152 118 87

Sprays containing DDT were applied in two orchards in 1947, the

Government orchard at Glenn Dale, and the Van Reynolds orchard at

Elkton, Md. Spring frosts injured 50 per cent of the chestnut crop at

Glenn Dale and 70 per cent at Elkton, and as a result only a few trees

suitable for tests were available. The remaining trees were not

sprayed. Four pounds of the standard mixture of equal parts of DDT and

kaolin were used to 100 gallons of water in all applications.

In Table 3 will be found information on the quantities of DDT used, the

schedules followed, and the results obtained during the period 1944

through 1947.

These results indicate clearly the effectiveness of DDT in chestnut

weevil control, in spite of numerous discrepancies brought about by the

small number and variability of the trees available for the tests. As

might be expected, programs of three applications were more effective

than those of only one or two. Of the single applications, those put on

during the latter half of August were much more effective than those

made during the first half of September, presumably because most of the

eggs had been laid by the early part of September.

These experiments gave fairly exact information on the relative

abundance of the two species of weevils. At Glenn Dale the small

chestnut weevil constituted 92 to 98 per cent of the population; at

Elkton, 61 per cent.

The matured nuts that fell from count trees were collected daily, and

one-third of each lot collected was used as a sample for determining the

percentage of wormy nuts. It was possible, therefore, to obtain a rough

estimate of the numbers of larvae produced on each tree. In 1946, from

1,863 nuts on a tree sprayed three times, 429 larvae emerged; and from a

comparable unsprayed tree having 2,610 nuts 16,494 larvae emerged. In

1947, 1,350 larvae were produced on 9 trees with an average crop of

1,361 nuts sprayed three times, compared with 14,505 larvae from 2,922

nuts on an unsprayed tree. These figures indicate that DDT sprays bring

about large decreases in the numbers of weevils and that the proper use

of DDT sprays on all host trees over a period of a few years would

doubtless reduce the infestation to a point where fewer applications

would be necessary for effective control of the chestnut weevils.

+Tentative Recommendations+

For the benefit of those who wish to try DDT for chestnut weevil

control, the following tentative recommendation is made:

Thoroughly apply +to all parts of the tree+ 2 pounds of DDT in 100 gallons

of water. For example, use 4 pounds of a wettable powder that contains

50 per cent of DDT, or 8 pounds of one that contains 25 per cent of DDT.

Make three applications, the first about 30 days before the first nut is

due to drop, and the second and third after intervals of 12 days. Unless

the entire bur, especially that portion near the stem end where most of

the feeding punctures are made, +is thoroughly covered+ with a film of

DDT, the weevils may feed without being affected by the insecticide. In

handling DDT, one should use the same care as with such well-known

poisons as lead arsenate, Paris green, calcium arsenate, and nicotine.

* * * * *

Mr. Gravatt: I might say that Mr. Van Leeuwen has used only a small

section of our experimental orchard, and right near-by would be large

sections not used. The weevils are not killed quickly by the DDT, they

are somewhat resistant, and so we think quite a number of weevils come

over and deposit eggs before they are killed by this DDT, because they

don't lose any time getting to work on the nuts. He hopes to have much

better results where the entire orchard is sprayed. This year we

sprayed our entire orchard twice, and it is a real pleasure to go out

there now and gather up nuts and not be eating weevils when we do eat

them.

President Davidson: Well, Mr. Gravatt will now give us a talk on

Diseases Affecting the Success of Tree Crop Plantings, and I am sure we

all are on our toes to hear about that. Mr. Gravatt.

Mr. Gravatt: I only ask a few minutes to show a few slides.

(Slides shown.)

Diseases Affecting the Success of Tree Crop Plantings

G. F. GRAVATT and DONALD C. STOUT

Division of Forest Pathology, Plant Industry Station, Beltsville,

Maryland.

Mass plantings of many trees of the same kind frequently result in an

increase in the severity of insect pests and diseases. Leaf diseases,

for instance, spread quickly through such plantings when weather

conditions favor growth of the causal organisms. Plants on sites

unfavorable to a specific tree species also are responsible for disease

increases. Chinese chestnuts grown on a site where they are subject to

early-fall and late-spring frosts will fail. Not only will crops be

reduced by the killing of buds or blooms, but the twigs, or even whole

trees, may be killed by freezing. The blight fungus develops rapidly on

such injured trees and may mislead people into thinking that the blight

fungus is the primary cause of the killing.

Still another factor that determines the damage by diseases, and thus

the success or failure of nut tree plantings, is the ignoring of soil

and fertilizer requirements. Trees weakened by drought, because they are

on a site having a soil too shallow for good root growth, are much more

subject to attack even by weakly parasitic fungi than those growing on a

site with deeper soil. Innumerable dying twigs and branches with fungi

growing on them are sent to the U. S. Department of Agriculture or State

experiment stations with requests that the disease be identified, when

the real trouble is lack of water for the roots. Weak trees are much

more subject to winter injury than vigorous ones.

Trees require a good supply of plant food materials and water to produce

profitable crops. Tho heaviest bearing chestnut trees we have observed

were grown in an irrigated orchard in California and in a poultry yard

in the East where chicken droppings actually formed a mulch under the

trees. However, if you wish to kill a young chestnut tree quickly, just

apply a very heavy application of chicken manure; the point is that

trees must become adjusted to chicken manure by gradual applications.

Another way to damage a tree is to keep it growing late in the fall by

cultivation and fertilizers so that it does not harden off properly.

Many plantings, representing heavy investments, fail because of lack of

organic matter in the soil. This is related to water-holding and

water-supplying capacity of the soil, and lack of proper fertilizer. Dr.

Harley L. Crane and his assistants, in their work with tung and pecan

trees, have shown the vital need for certain elements on some soils.

Trees weakened by the lack of these elements are early prey for some

diseases. The element most frequently deficient is nitrogen, but

sometimes boron, copper, or iron is lacking; or the elements are not in

balance, because of the excess of some, or the lack of others.

By adjusting the various soil, water, and site factors necessary for a

continuous, vigorous growth of trees, many so-called disease conditions

are eliminated. Many fungi and viruses, however, will attack trees in

the pink of condition; a few of the more important of these are treated

in the following sections.

+Chestnut Blight+

The destruction by blight of the native stands of the American chestnut,

and of the small eastern orchard industry based on European and American

chestnuts and their hybrids is almost complete. Blight has been found in

the planted European chestnut orchards of the Pacific Coast from time to

time, but it has been kept under control by eradication. Chestnut trees

or nuts from the eastern States, where blight is common, should not be

shipped into the Rocky Mountain or Pacific Coast States.

Finding the Asiatic chestnuts resistant to the blight, the Division of

Forest Pathology sent R. Kent Beattie to Asia to make selections of

chestnuts for introduction into this country. Later Peter Liu, a Chinese

collector who worked with Mr. Beattie, continued to select Chinese

chestnuts for introduction. These introductions, together with the

earlier ones made by the Division of Plant Exploration and Introduction,

were grown at Chico, Calif., Savannah, Ga., and Bell, or Glenn Dale, Md.

Altogether some 300,000 chestnut trees, of pure species and hybrids,

were distributed to cooperators for forest and orchard plantings. (Fig.

1.) These constituted a fine lot of material from many parts of Asia as

a basis for selecting the best ones for our use. Private nurseries and

State game and forestry departments are now growing these chestnuts and

the Division of Forest Pathology has discontinued general distribution

of trees to cooperators.

Chinese chestnuts have proved to be the most valuable for forest,

orchard and ornamental use. The Japanese chestnut is being discriminated

against because of the poor quality of its nuts. Orchardists having

mixed plantings containing Japanese chestnuts are advised to top work

the trees or remove them, if the seed is to be used for plantings. In

fact, for orchard plantings, nuts should be used only from the best

individual trees of the Chinese chestnut.

The Chinese chestnut should be planted on sites with good air drainage

as it is very susceptible to injury from early-fall or late-spring

freezes. Many persons think their trees have been killed by the blight

when the primary cause of the trouble was injury to the trunk by

freezing followed by growth of the blight organism over the injured

parts. This fungus may grow for many years in the outer layers of the

bark without doing any material damage to the tree. An important factor

in resistance of the Chinese chestnuts to the blight is to keep the

trees growing vigorously. Avoid late growth in the fall as this favors

fall freezing damage.

[Illustration: Figure 1.--F1 hybrids between the Chinese chestnut and

the American chestnut.]

+Nut Spoilage+

In the Southern States one of the most serious problems with some

selections of the Chinese chestnut is the spoilage of the nuts. Marvin

E. Fowler made a study of this trouble at Savannah, Ga., and found that

most of the trouble in that restricted area was caused by a

Gleoesporium-like fungus that infects the nuts at the tip.[10] Because

spraying experiments did not give control, the more susceptible trees

have been removed. In most parts of the South, however, this fungus is

not the primary cause of nut spoilage and the limited work so far

carried out has not revealed the cause. Part of the trouble may be due

to physiological break-down. As individual trees vary greatly in

susceptibility to this deterioration of the nuts, orchardists are

advised to top work or eliminate the more susceptible trees. Some people

have believed that exposure of the nuts to the hot sun while in the bur

or on the ground may cause damage. The market for Chinese chestnuts can

be ruined by shipping nuts that are partly spoiled by the time they

reach the consumer.

[Footnote 10: Gravatt, G. F., and Marvin E. Fowler. Diseases of chestnut

trees and nuts. Northern Nut Growers Assoc. Rept. (1940) 31: 110-113.

1941.]

+Phytophthora Root Disease of Chestnut+

Phytophthora root disease, caused by _Phytophthora cinnamomi_, is

treated briefly here, and interested nut growers can consult the

detailed earlier article.[11] Briefly, this fungus is considered as

introduced into this country over a hundred years ago. It killed the

chestnut and chinkapin growth over large areas in the southern States.

Asiatic chestnuts are highly resistant to this disease, and when grown

on well-drained soils have not been damaged. Our test plantings of

Chinese chestnuts growing in the same soils where susceptible trees of

American and European chestnuts were killed, continue to make a vigorous

growth. The European and American chestnuts and their hybrids growing in

the western States are in danger from this fungus as it has now been

reported in the West. This same fungus sometimes kills thousands of

young nursery trees of the black walnut, but these epidemics are usually

brought on by unusual weather conditions. Poor soil aeration, induced by

excessive rainfall and poor drainage, makes ideal conditions for damage

to the walnut and other hosts by _Phytophthora_. Even the very resistant

Chinese chestnut roots are invaded by the fungus when the soil remains

waterlogged for extended periods.

+Brooming Disease of Walnut+

A systemic brooming disease, observed on planted walnuts as early as

1917, has been the subject of considerable discussion during recent

years, because it has now spread widely into the native black walnut

growth. In 1932 Waite published that he had been observing the disease

for some 15 years but that "it was unknown on the black walnut in the

wild in this country or on planted trees away from the Japanese walnut."

The disease has continued to increase in prevalence in recent years and

is now widely distributed in native black walnut growth in Tennessee,

Virginia, District of Columbia, Maryland, Delaware, and New Jersey. This

extensive spread into the native growth during the last 15 or 20 years

and the fact that reports indicate that all of the early cases of the

disease were found near nursery-grown trees offer some evidence that the

disease is an importation from another area or continent into the

eastern black walnut zone. From the literature and oral reports, it

seems that the disease is now present also in North Carolina, West

Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, Ohio, and Michigan. Surveys probably

would uncover the disease among native wild and planted walnuts in other

States.

[Footnote 11: Crandall, B. S., G. F. Gravatt, and M. M. Ryan. Root

diseases of Castanea species and some coniferous and broadleaf nursery

stocks, caused by Phytophthora cinnamomi. Phytopathology 35: 162-180.

Illus. 1945.]

+Economic Importance and Hosts+

The black walnut is a valuable native forest tree, widely but not

abundantly distributed in the eastern United States. It is extensively

planted as a forest tree. The numerous plantings and natural stands

around farm homes, along fences, and in pastures are also very valuable.

More and more grafted ornamentals, and orchards of black walnut are

being planted. For these the per-tree investment is high.

[Illustration: Figure 2.--The brooming disease of walnut. Severe

brooming on Japanese walnut.]

The ultimate effect of the brooming disease on the black walnut is not

known. Dr. Waite stated, "Trees even moderately attacked soon become

worthless for nut production." Some affected black walnut trees,

however, continue to produce small crops of nuts. Visible symptoms have

been known to disappear. In addition, some seedlings, and probably large

trees also, are infected without showing symptoms. Such observations

indicate the complex nature of the disease. Detailed studies are needed,

but at present this Division is not in position to do more than limited,

part-time work on the disease.

The butternut, a widely distributed forest tree of minor importance, is

seriously injured or killed by this disease. The disease severely

damages or kills the Japanese walnut, which has been planted to a

limited extent but is of little importance. According to Dr. Waite's

report, the Persian, or English, walnut is attacked, but very few trees

of this species are planted in the eastern States. Precautions should be

taken to prevent the introduction of this disease into areas where it is

not now present, particularly the western states.

Symptoms expressed by infected trees are viruslike, and Hutchins and

Wester[12] were able to produce the brooming symptoms on a small number

of trees by means of bark patch grafts, indicating that the brooming

disease probably is caused by a virus.

[Illustration: Figure 3.--Brooming disease on black walnut. Ascending

type, upright, sucker growth is typical of this species.]

+Description of Symptoms+

The entire range of symptoms of the brooming disease has not been

determined. Symptoms are recognizable during mid-July but they are most

pronounced during September and October. Curling and cupping of

leaflets, chlorosis, narrowing and basal tapering of leaflets appear to

be associated with early stages of the disease. On severely affected

trees there are distinct broomlike growths at branch terminals, along

primary or secondary branches, or on the main stem to the ground line

(Fig. 2). The broomlike growths are formed by the continuing abnormal

development of normally located buds into short, succulent branches.

Upright, suckerlike branches appear on primary and secondary branches

and on the main stem of the affected tree. (Fig. 3).

The broomed parts usually die back during the dormant period following

their appearance. The dead brooms on trees that appear to be healthy

during the early months of the growing-season indicate that the trees

are infected. Usually the diseased trees, even those severely affected,

exhibit normal growth during the early summer months.

Evidence that walnut trees may be infected for a considerable time prior

to appearance of recognizable symptoms was obtained when 37 per cent of

a total of 300 severely pruned trees exhibited brooming disease

symptoms. These trees had looked healthy until they were pruned.

Unpruned control trees showed a 4 per cent increase in disease during

the same period.

[Footnote 12: Hutchins, Lee M., and Horace V. Wester.

Graft-transmissible brooming disease of walnut. Phytopathology. 37 (1):

11. (Abstract) 1947.]

+Summary+

There is strong evidence that a virus disease is active among certain

species of walnut in central and eastern United States. The disease

exhibits distinctive symptoms and appears to damage infected trees,

sometimes severely, over several growing seasons. Present data indicate

that recognizable symptoms of the disease may not appear for some time

after infection, unless the host is subjected to severe shock. Thus,

nursery stock may be one means of spreading the disease into new areas.

It is recommended, without experimental work to back up the

recommendation, that walnut nurserymen remove infected trees in the

vicinity of their nursery sites.

Investigation of this disease to the present time has been limited.

General observations indicate that severely broomed trees produce poor

nut crops. Mortality caused by the disease appears to be quite low among

black walnut trees. Butternut and Japanese walnut trees are, in general,

more severely affected by the disease than the black walnut and many

seem to be killed by it, although the killing process is slow. As a

result of experience with other virus diseases, orchardists who have

only a few infected trees among their black walnuts are advised to

remove them. Whether the disease can be kept under control by repeated

roguing is uncertain. If an owner has just a few trees of value as

ornamentals as well as nut producers, one hesitates to advise him to

remove a lightly infected tree until more information is obtained

concerning the disease.

This Division will welcome information from persons having experience

with the brooming disease of walnut, as it is in a position to do only a

limited amount of work on the disease.

+Persimmon Wilt+

Persimmon wilt is very destructive to the native persimmon (Fig. 4). It

is caused by the fungus _Cephalosporium diospyri_, which was described

in 1945 by Bowen S. Crandall[13]. The fungus grows in the wood of the

trees, producing discolored streaks. Most trees are rapidly killed,

with yellow, wilted leaves making quite a contrast to the normal green

trees.

This disease was found in spots from central Tennessee south to the

Gulf, east into Florida, and up the coast into North Carolina. The

American persimmon seemed to be in danger, as this quickly killing

disease appeared to be spreading. The limited work on this disease was

discontinued because of the war and the transfer of Mr. Crandall to

Peru. However, this summer Mr. Crandall and the senior writer spent two

weeks surveying some of the old infections and nearby territory, and

were pleased to note that the disease had made very little progress into

new territory. On several small areas where the disease was present some

six years ago practically all of the larger trees had been killed, but

some new small trees were coming up. At Chattanooga National Park, where

the wilt was rampant about six years ago, it is continuing to kill

trees, but many new ones are coming up. No northward extension of the

disease in Tennessee or North Carolina was noted in the limited time

spent in inspection.

[Illustration: Figure 4.--Small persimmon trees killed by the wilt.]

What does the disease mean to the grower of grafted persimmons, both

native and Oriental? The Japanese or Chinese persimmons do not grow as

well on their own roots, although they are quite safe that way as these

two species are very resistant to the wilt. In the East, most of the

Oriental persimmons are grafted on American root stocks, and trees in

one case were killed by the wilt fungus getting in on the susceptible

root stock. No attempts to control the wilt have been made, and these

recommendations are based on procedure with other diseases and on

knowledge of the spore production of this fungus. An owner of a valuable

planting of grafted trees in a region where the disease is present

should watch his trees for the first indication of trouble. The planting

will be safer, if there are no nearby native trees; and if native trees

are growing nearby and cannot be removed, they should be given a general

inspection. Prompt removal and burning of any infected trees found is

advisable. The fact that usually fungus spore production does not take

place until after the tree has been dead for a while makes the prospect

for control better than with most diseases. Care should be taken not to

bring in scions or trees from infected areas.

Most members of the Northern Nut Growers Association have only a few

grafted persimmon trees, usually located outside of the infected zone

and therefore in little danger. Persimmon scions and trees should not be

shipped from infected to healthy regions. The disease has not been

reported in nurseries, but it could occur there because it attacks small

trees.

[Footnote 13: Crandall, Bowen S. A new species of +Cephalosporium+ causing

persimmon wilt. Mycologia 37 (4): 495-498. 1945.]

+Thyronectria Disease of Honeylocust+

Honeylocust is widely distributed both in native stands and in

plantations. Some farmers plant this species or leave native trees in

their pastures for the pods, which have a high sugar content, up to 38

per cent. J. C. Moore, of the Alabama Agricultural Experiment Station,

reported preliminary tests indicating a per-acre yield of livestock feed

equal to that of oats.

In many areas the growth of honeylocust is seriously affected by a

canker and twig fungus, _Thyronectria austro-americana_. The disease

often kills many twigs and branches and sometimes results in death of

the tree. In most areas it causes only slight injury. Bowen S. Crandall

and Jesse D. Diller have made a few observations on the prevalence and

damage by this disease, which is present from New England south into the

Gulf States and west into the Great Plains States.

The fungus causing this disease is morphologically somewhat similar to

the chestnut blight fungus, having two spore stages produced in

reddish-brown pinhead-size fruiting bodies on the bark. Cankers are

produced on the smaller branches, but they usually are not noted until

some of the affected ones wilt and die. In the exposed outer wood of a

branch cut above or below the canker there are reddish-brown streaks

several inches long, indicating that the fungus has grown in the

vascular system.

As no control experiments are known, recommendations are based on

general knowledge of sanitation. If an owner has only a few valuable

planted trees, he should cut off the diseased parts a foot or more back

from the lower edge of the affected bark and burn or bury them in the

soil. If he has many trees scattered over extensive pasture areas, it is

questionable whether any action other than elimination of the more

susceptible trees is justified. We will be interested in the results

obtained from control work.

* * * * *

President Davidson: Now I will turn over the chairmanship of the meeting

to Mr. Chase, who will have charge of the Round Table Discussion.

Round Table Discussion on Chestnut Problems

SPENCER B. CHASE, Presiding

_Panel of Experts_: Max E. Hardy, Carroll D. Bush, H. F. Stoke, G. F.

Gravatt, J. C. McDaniel.

Mr. Chase: Gentlemen, in the last hour and a half we have heard perhaps

more about chestnuts from qualified specialists than we will ever hear

in any meeting of ours, and we requested each one to withhold questions

until this point. So now we will have some questions from the floor,

please.

Mr. Slate: What is the present status of breeding chestnut species for

timber purposes?

Mr. Gravatt: The prospects are coming along. We have one cross between a

none-too-promising Chinese chestnut and an American chestnut, with a

good bunch of hybrids and they are different from other hybrids. It

looks like they will stand up against blight. They will have blight

canker growth from 10 feet down to the ground but it doesn't go into the

cambium region. It is too early to evaluate the hybrids, but they do

have the upright form and rapid growth of the American chestnut.

Now when we take these first-generation hybrids, cross them back with

the Chinese and get more resistance, as we have done so many times in

the past, we lose that rapid and more upright growth habit of the

American chestnut. But we have a lot more work to do before we are ready

to say anything final on this question.

Dr. Arthur H. Graves, formerly at the Brooklyn Botanic Garden is now

consulting pathologist at the New Haven, (Conn.) Experiment Station. We

have been working with him and partially supporting his chestnut

breeding for a good many years. He has a lot of hybrids up there. We

expect to have something later, but have nothing to release yet.

A Member: Do you have any sprays to control diseases and insect pests in

the tree that when they go into the soil won't destroy our ground

friends?

Mr. Chase: Mr. Gravatt?

Mr. Gravatt: I don't know what insects you are after, in the first

place. We have a lot of trouble with Japanese beetles. Around

Washington, Dr. Crane's and my plantings there would be defoliated if

they weren't sprayed for Japanese beetle control, and it is the same way

with filberts.

A Member: The same sprays have a tendency to work against most of the

pests, do they not? Of course, DDT will take one, the arsenate of lead

takes another, Black Leaf 40 another, but if we had a spray that we can

use around on--well, not limited to the chestnut--that would be

neutralized in the earth. Now, we have a good deal of friendly bacteria

and insects in the soil that we want to keep.

Mr. Gravatt: I would say that I am a pathologist, and insect work is out

of my line.

Mr. Chase: Does anyone else have a comment on that? Dr. Cross, did you

hear the question?

Dr. Cross: I didn't get his question.

Mr. Chase: Would you stand and repeat your question?

A Member: Is there a spray that we can use for combating the insect

pests of our trees that when it is washed off and goes into the soil

doesn't kill our soil friends. We have the friendly bacteria in the

soil, as well as insect and worm life. Do we have a spray that will be

neutralized as it hits the soil so we can spray the tree and not kill

our lower friends?

Dr. Cross: Sorry, Mr. Chase, that's beyond me.

Mr. Gravatt: You are thinking of arsenate of lead poisoning the soil

where you keep on spraying with it?

A Member: Yes.

Mr. Gravatt: I think DDT may build up a little in the soil, but it is

broken down, isn't it, Dr. Crane?

Dr. Crane: Yes, DDT is broken down and it is not a fungicide and it is

not a bactericide. It is an insecticide that kills insects through

affecting the nervous system, according to my understanding of it. I am

not an entomologist, but that's what the entomologists say. So far we

haven't any evidence to my knowledge of any build-up of DDT in soils

that has been detrimental. I don't know what the situation would be if

DDT was used to the same extent as arsenate of lead. It was not uncommon

for some growers to put on anywhere from 6 to 15 lead sprays in a season

in order to control codling moth, as they used to do in certain apple

orchards, particularly in the West.

I was talking to Dr. Van Leeuwen just a day or two before I had to leave

for the meeting, and he is not ready yet to say anything about it, but

he has already tested some very promising insecticides as far as the

control of weevil is concerned. This DDT and some of the other new

insecticides are very easily decomposed, and, of course, that's one of

the disadvantages of them. Under certain climatic conditions they would

need to be less readily decomposed to give control over a longer period.

I know that we have not had enough experience to know all about those

new spray materials.

Mr. McDaniel: There has been one instance reported where DDT _in the

soil_ was injurious to fruit plant growth. That was Goldsworthy's and

Dunegan's work on strawberries. Where they used large amounts of

technical DDT in the soil, they found that it inhibited the growth of

the strawberry plant. I believe that's the only instance I've heard of,

where soil application of DDT hurt growth of fruit plants. Benzene

hexachloride, and some other chlorinated hydrocarbons, and parathion

actually appeared to have a stimulating effect on the berry plants.[14]

Mr. Frye: Why would there be any more danger of affecting the soil in a

chestnut orchard than there would in the apple and peach orchard by

spraying seven, eight and ten times? That's the only question that

arises with me.

Mr. Chase: Let's get back to chestnuts specifically, now, gentlemen.

Mr. Kays (Oklahoma A. & M. College): Since I don't come from a chestnut

area, my impression of the nut samples supplied by Mr. Moore of Auburn,

was: "I'd like them if they had salted them." I am wondering if it

wouldn't have affected their rancidity if they had been treated--salting

material added, prior to or in the process somewhere along the line.

Mr. J. C. Moore: I'd just like to say I have tried putting salt in the

water, to boil the nuts with salt, and then I have tried shelling them

and sprinkling salt, and I find that salt does not add anything to the

flavor. Tasting the nuts raw, I, too, get the impression salt is what I

want, but I haven't been able to add it satisfactorily. I don't say that

it cannot be done.

Dr. MacDaniels: Mr. Chairman, in view of the whole situation of chestnut

incompatibility of stock with scion, what would be the position that we

in the Northern Nut Growers Association can take in advising people what

kind of chestnuts they should plant? Should they be encouraged to try to

get grafted trees? What should be our position?

Mr. Chase: Mr. Stoke, would you care to comment on that?

Mr. Stoke: You are asking me to stick out my neck, and it seems as if I

have always done that. The Chinese chestnut is in the Johnny Appleseed

stage, in my opinion, and we are investigating to find out the best

varieties, that is, the best specimen, best performance, best quality,

best in blight resistance, growth, and other qualities and when we

winnow out all we have and arrive at the best, we are going to

find--now, this is just my personal opinion--I will say that for myself

I'd rather have one acre of the best selections we have budded or

grafted--asexually propagated, than five acres of seedling trees as a

financial good bet, because I say that one acre of our very best produce

virtually as many nuts as five acres of seedlings. I have trees from

seed I imported through the Yokahama Nursery Company, and I think it

came from Korea. The nuts run very small, and compared with those I am

sure the others will pay much better, and I think it would be profitable

to pay three or four or five times as much for your trees if you get

good trees of good, known varieties and grafted or budded.

Don't misunderstand me. We shouldn't ask the American public to wait

until those can be furnished, because they won't wait, and they

shouldn't. But I say as a commercial proposition, to plant trees

commercially, I would exercise caution and I would encourage my

customers to exercise caution unless they are willing to follow up and

do their own top working later on, and a Chinese chestnut doesn't top

work as readily as a black walnut.

Mr. Chase: I don't believe that's quite the answer he wanted. The

comment that I think Dr. MacDaniels is after is what position should the

Northern Nut Growers Association take in regard to planting seedlings or

planting grafted stock. Is that the point?

Dr. MacDaniels: Yes, it seems to be seedlings against grafted stock.

Mr. Stoke: May I answer? I don't think the Northern Nut Growers

Association should take _any_ position. They should present the facts

and let the buyer decide. I don't think we need to go on record, and I

don't think we should. There is too much diversity of opinion.

Dr. MacDaniels: Between ourselves--and this is not an academic

question--we get continual inquiries regarding the Chinese chestnuts and

what should they plant and where can they get the trees, and so forth.

It isn't good enough in most of these cases to write several pages

explaining what the whole situation is, the _if's_, _and's_, and

_but's_. But I just wonder what the opinion is of the people who know

best in this regard. Who has a good orchard of 20-year-old grafted

Chinese chestnuts? Where are they? I don't know: I am asking for

information.

Mr. Chase: Dr. Drain, are those trees you have grafted trees or seedling

trees?

Dr. Drain (University of Tennessee): They are seedling trees. They have

produced a rather nice quality nut, and we have enjoyed propagating

seedlings from them. That's really all we know. We haven't grafted any.

Mr. Chase: Mac, would you care to comment on this?

Mr. McDaniel: I am ashamed to say that at present we have no grafted

chestnut trees on my own north Alabama farms. We have about 50 trees

that are 8-year-old seedlings from imported (Chinese) nuts, growing next

to a commercial peach block, and find the production quite variable on

the different trees. I am aiming at top-working most of these with the

named varieties, beginning this year. At present I can't answer the

question of seedlings vs grafted trees. I have been advising people who

are interested in trying them in Tennessee that _for their first

planting_ (to test the adaptability of their locations) they can get the

seedlings generally quite a bit cheaper than the grafted trees. With the

experience we have had over the State and the high mortality of trees,

both grafted and seedling--killing of the tops and in some cases the

whole tree--the seedling might be best economically _to begin their_

experimenting with. I am _not recommending_ that anyone plant seedlings

commercially, but just in a small way for trial. They are well worth a

trial anywhere peaches are doing well. When we find a _suitable site_,

then is the time to think about using the more expensive grafted trees.

Pres. Davidson: I just want to give a little bit of my experience along

that line. Way back in 1934 I planted a few seeds that I got from Amelia

Riehl. They were nuts of the Riehl hybrids. [Ed. note: Mostly

American--European crosses.] She named one Dan Patch and another

Gibbons. They are now about 13 years old. Each of them is bearing burs

this year. They have borne burs, a few of them, in the past, but no

nuts. So far in 1948, the burs that have fallen to the ground, of

course, have no nuts, but whether the burs that are still on the trees

have nuts I don't know. I want to know whether those trees are

normal---whether a hybrid of that kind is likely to be sterile or not.

That's another matter that might be discussed. Anyhow, you are taking a

chance, no question about that, when you plant seedlings.

Mr. Stoke: Mr. Chairman, if you will pardon me for saying one more word,

here is a suggestion I will make. Now you can check for yourself. The

whole thing hinges on whether we can get _permanent_ grafts on the tree

and get the characteristics in the grafted tree that the parent has--in

the good selected tree. Now you take the reports sent us by Mr. Hemming;

you take the reports of the station at Albany--of individual trees in

those plots. You take the worst trees and you will find they are nothing

but boarders. You take the best and you will find they are very

profitable. You take the average and it will fall somewhere in between.

Now, why keep a lot of boarders that don't pay--free boarders--or why

use run-of-mine seedlings, _if_ we can graft successfully--and some

people like to dispute that--and produce nothing but the best? And you

can check it on any of those tables. [Mr. Hardy's paper.] We have a few

tables in our former Reports. You can check it and figure it out for

yourself.

Dr. Crane: To clear up this situation I wanted to ask Mr. Hardy a

question, and then I wanted to make a statement. In this report from the

1938 and 1940 planting at Albany, Georgia, in the Brown tract in 1947

there were 188 trees that bore crops, but that planting consisted of

274 trees planted in 1938 and 60 trees planted in 1940. Why weren't

those 274 trees plus those 60 trees represented in the 100 with the

yield records of 1947?

Mr. Hardy: Dr. Crane knows the answer, so I will let him ask the

question and answer it, too.

Dr. Crane: In 1936 we planted 1,000 trees of the same Peter Liu

selections on the Station farm at Beltsville, Maryland. They were of the

same number and letter designations as others that were distributed to

cooperators. Out of the thousand trees that we planted on the Station

farm some of them came into bearing at four and five years after

planting. But the nuts were small in size and were not much good. With

one or two exceptions, out of that planting there were none bearing

satisfactorily to suit us after ten years. In 1945 we applied the ax,

because a Chinese chestnut tree, from an orchard standpoint, if it's not

in bearing in ten years after planting is not worth keeping. We haven't

got time to wait. So out they came. And in addition to that we have had

other trees that have done the same thing.

Now, out of this 274 plus the 60 at Albany, Georgia, we have three trees

that we now figure are good enough to be raised to a variety status,

plus possibly two or three more. Now, you can figure your percentage of

good trees when you plant seeds.

Dr. Overholser: Mr. Chairman, may I ask a question, whether these three

seedlings to which they propose to give variety status have been

propagated in sufficient number that they are able to give distribution

in other areas.

Mr. Hardy: Dr. Overholser, they are not available yet in quantity. That

same answer is part of the answer I wanted to make to Dr. MacDaniels.

The present situation in the chestnut industry is that there are very

few nurserymen who know how to propagate nursery grafted trees

successfully. There is going to have to be quite a bit of work done on

that. If some of you here know how to do it, I would like to know,

myself. There are a lot of nurserymen who would like to know, according

to the reports I have, how to graft or bud a nursery chestnut tree.

As long as the situation is that way I would say to recommend seedling

trees because of their low price, but--and every grower who has trees

can fall in line with this--the seeds should be from properly culled-out

orchards of the highest type, leaving nothing in there producing nuts or

pollen but what is the highest type. I think all of you who have more

than one type of chestnut in your plantings should cull them all down to

the pure _Castanea mollissima_. I don't mean by cutting out the whole

tree, but go ahead and top-work them. If they won't take the top, _then_

cut them out. But if you can top-work them and the grafting is good, you

can increase your planting of good trees in that manner.

The improved quality of the seed will improve the quality of seedlings

going to the buyer, and the chances of a higher percentage of good

seedlings showing up will be greater. I think it will improve the

industry through a period of years.

Dr. MacDaniels: I think I agree with his position. In fact, that's

exactly what we are telling the inquiries that come in: At the present

state of our knowledge, better try seedling trees.

But I didn't hear anybody get up and say they had an orchard of

20-year-old grafted chestnut trees. I have tried to get them, I have

grafted successfully, I suppose, 7 or 8 different varieties on many

different Chinese stocks that I have bought, or had given to me, and

numbers of grafted trees. I have nothing left. They grow fine, 7 or 8

feet the first year, 3 or 4 feet the next year, then they go along for a

while and then they die. In other words, there is an unsolved problem

there, so that it seems to me at the present state of our knowledge we

had better admit it and say, "If you are an amateur, you better get the

best seedling trees that you can and wait awhile."

Mr. J. C. Moore: I just want to give some data on some of the class work

at Auburn with Chinese chestnuts. We were studying Chinese seedlings,

and we attempted to bud those Chinese chestnut seedlings, and on some of

the larger seedlings we top-worked. We had some 3-year-old seedlings,

and we top-worked the limbs. We put in patch buds, and we put in T-buds

or shield buds, and in practically every case on some of the trees the

buds stuck beautifully.

In June and again in August, with another class, we had the same

results, either with T-bud or shield bud or patch bud. Some of the

seedlings wouldn't take the buds at all. I can't think why one seedling

would take 100 per cent of the buds and another seedling growing right

by it wouldn't take any buds.

Mr. Weber: The oldsters here will remember Colonel C. K. Sober, one of

our former members who propagated what he later named the Sober's

Paragon chestnut. It was a grafted tree and apparently it was grafted

successfully on native stocks, and it grew until the blight got it.

Dr. MacDaniels: I am not talking about European or American, I am

talking about Chinese chestnuts.

Mr. O'Rourke: It may affect the nursery industry. The nurserymen are

looking to the Northern Nut Growers Association, Federal bureaus and

State experiment stations to guide them in the propagation of desirable

trees. We know now that the Chinese chestnut is becoming quite

prominent, is becoming quite popular in many sections of the country,

and many nurserymen are now getting requests to supply the public in

their states with Chinese chestnuts. They, in turn, would like to know

what they should do. If they sell Chinese chestnut trees which have been

propagated vegetatively and they only grow five, eight, 10 or 15 years

and then die, it's going to come back on the nurserymen. They should

like to know whether they should do that or whether they should rely

upon seedlings which they can develop into pure lines as best they may.

Now, that really is a serious question. I am wondering from what Mr.

Hardy has told us today if it may not be an understock problem, and if

it is an understock problem--if there are certain strains of understock

which are compatible with certain scions, possibly we should ask for

some investigations, some more research to be done in this direction.

Then possibly, on the other hand, we should also ask that certain

investigations be carried out so that we will have some idea of the

inheritable characters that may be "fixed" through seed selection. I

really think that this seed selection should be very seriously

considered, and that nurserymen in particular and the public in general

would benefit greatly by such consideration.

Mr. Hardy: Mr. Chase, may I make this suggestion: I think it is

something that a number of individuals could try, perhaps they should be

backed up by agricultural institutions, either Federal or State. We are

all interested and concerned with stocks, and I think a large part of

our trouble with grafting chestnuts is a stock-scion relationship.

We have some top-worked trees 13 years old that are just as healthy,

just as normal as they can be. We have some top-worked trees of various

ages below that. The graft-union is good; they are just as healthy and

continue to be as productive and vigorous as the parent tree. Where

there is incompatibility we run into difficulties very shortly. To a

large extent I think we are involved with two problems in the trouble

with incompatibility, or perhaps I should say the dying, of grafted

trees. One is a stock-scion relationship, the other a mechanical

problem.

I think there are these two types of incompatibilities. Now, as to the

mechanical part--that can be improved through developing the art of

grafting or budding, whichever works out best. The other will require

quite a lot of study, perhaps the development of certain strains of the

root stocks for certain scion varieties.

I have made this suggestion to two or three. I have started the work

myself by putting out with friends two or three or four trees. After

they get up to a size where I can top-work them, I will top-work with

two varieties. Perhaps I will put Nanking and Kuling on two trees at one

particular place. Two or three miles away I will put Kuling and Meiling

on two others. At another place I will put Nanking and Meiling. I will

get reciprocal pollination, because the chestnut is necessarily

cross-pollinating.[15] I can then plant seedlings from both parents,

each pollinated by the other. Then by grafting those varieties onto

those seedlings stocks I can find out whether there is any reason to go

into the work of developing seed orchards of two varieties whereby

Meiling pollinated by Kuling may produce the best, most vigorous, most

uniform seedlings on which Kuling can be propagated. And by propagating

Kuling on such seedlings--the seedlings of such inheritance--we may get

100 per cent of good grafts.

The industry needs a lot of help, and I think it is a matter of time

until those things are worked out, but it is going to take time and

money and plenty of good effort to work out that problem. I think it

probably should be worked out.

Mr. Bush: I don't like the word "incompatibility", and I hardly believe

in it, and I presume most of you know that. I have Chinese on European

stock, and it has been there for 20 years or more, _grafted high_. I

have Chinese on Japanese grafted _under the ground_. I think a good deal

of our damage is done from wind, from cold, and from sun on the graft

_just above the ground_. I suspect that grafting at that point is what

is the matter with many trees in the TVA plantings and others that had

low survival. Of late years when I did the grafting (in the last five or

six years) I cut the stock underneath the ground and stuck the graft

under the ground and seemingly I got far better results. Some of those

graft failures showed up. I laid that largely to mechanical damage, and

again with the Japanese, particularly, I laid it on the time when the

sap comes up. Call it what you will, but the timing of the growth of the

two trees is different and we had trouble there. I have grafted some

very widely different kinds of chestnuts on the tops of other chestnuts,

and am getting them to grow. When we see the break start, we take a twig

from below and break and put it above, cut through the cambium and nail

it on and they will heal over and the defect disappears. So, again, it

seems to be mechanical.

Mr. McDaniel: I believe from observations on a number of trees,

particularly Dr. Richards' in West Tennessee, that a large part of our

so-called incompatibility in this State is due to winter injury _to the

stock_. So what Dr. Richards meant, evidently, was that he was rather

successful in getting a "take" from last summer's propagation but the

stock then failed below the union this spring. I saw his trees, and they

had the typical discoloration of bark and the dying of various bark

areas--these girdling the whole tree in a number of instances. [See

Richards' paper in this report.] I would agree in general with what Mr.

Bush has just said, but there are certain other instances in which we

think the only word for what we see is "incompatibility."

Mr. Slate: What are the prospects of planting those low-grafted trees

rather deep?

Mr. Bush: I think that if the roots started to die the grafted tree

would start a root above the graft. The sap is going up from the root.

It will go down and the root will start above the graft and go out above

the graft, thus getting the tree on its own root.

Mr. Stoke: Since we got onto grafting, do you mind if I say a word? Here

is a four-branch, top-worked specimen that I chopped off and brought

with me. This first tree limb was still alive and had nuts on it, the

second was dying and a third dead. This fourth union was still alive,

but it was badly damaged, too. That's Illinois 31 -4 on Japanese. Here

is another graft of Illinois 31 -4 on Japanese in a small tree, and if

that's poor union, I am no grafter!

Mr. Hardy: Mr. Stoke, may I ask you this: Is this [small graft] on the

same tree as this? [Indicating larger tree first referred to.]

Mr. Stoke: No. Those four grafts, you see, all went bad. This one is in

perfect condition. But I am having a hard time keeping that Illinois 31

-4 alive. I had a union on _mollissima_ three inches in diameter and as

perfect as this, two years ago. Last year it began to bulge at the point

of union. The top wasn't feeding back to the root, and this year it is

in bad condition,--foliage very small and it put on a very full crop of

burs which will never mature, and it's going to pass out. It is about

four inches in diameter now.

Last year to try to beat this thing I cut out the crown of a small

_mollissima_ at the below-ground level and put in several grafts of this

same Illinois 31 -4, and I got a nice growth, at least four feet high.

When I dug it up to transplant it--it was right in my garden--I found I

had a large callus more than an inch and a half in diameter at the union

but no roots. I reset it, and I haven't ventured to see whether it was

all right or not. This spring I tried again.

I have four little trees, one as high as my head, the others smaller. I

grafted each one on branch roots just as they lay in the ground. Didn't

dig them up and they grew nicely, and along in July I went around and

spaded them deeply and thought perhaps that would produce roots. About a

week ago I examined one. I have a magnificent callus but no roots yet

above the union. What the ultimate results will be I don't know.

With that particular hybrid I want to try one more thing. I want to grow

seedlings of the European chestnut, cut them below the ground, graft

Illinois 31 -4 on the root and it may make a union that will not fail,

because the European is a very robust grower, and by being grafted under

the ground the stock will be away from blight organisms.

[Editor's Note: Mr. C. A. Reed is naming this variety (Ill. 31-4)

"Colby" in honor of the originator, Dr. Arthur S. Colby.]

Mr. Hirschi: I would like to say I put on hybrids similar to that

Illinois 31 -4 and they grew the first year, and just made a bulky knot

right at the point of union and died the second year.

Mr. McDaniel: What was that combination?

Mr. Hirschi: That was _mollissima_ stock.

Now, speaking about the varieties--this is in Oklahoma--I have tried

practically all the older varieties and I have tried some Abundance

grafts this last year. I have some Abundance grafts that are two years

old that are producing. They have the most vigorous growth of anything,

and in our climate we have to have vigor.

I grafted a lot of the Abundance scions on Hobson seedlings. I started

out to grow an orchard from Hobson seedlings, and I found out that out

of 50 splice grafts of Abundance that I put in Hobson seedlings in 1948,

forty-eight grew, and they were put on rather late, in April. That's a

little late for us. I have the idea--I don't know whether I am right or

not--that if the Abundance proves out as our best variety, we can grow

seed for stock of the Abundance and then graft the Abundance back on the

seedling from Abundance. If there is so much to this incompatibility, I

should overcome it by doing that very thing.

Personally I think it is a crime that thousands of trees--almost

millions--are being put out by nurserymen as seedling trees, and if you

will note in their price lists they have "6 to 12 inches" and "12 to 18

inches", "2 to 3 feet" and "3 to 4 feet." I venture to say that those

are probably all the same age. How would you like to plant some of those

12-inch trees? Somebody is going to get hurt!

Mr. Bush: I'd like to say that you can propagate the Chinese chestnut by

layering if you want to, and that will put it on its own. Put a wedge on

it or girdle it and keep it damp through the summer.

Pres. Davidson: I think Dr. MacDaniels' question is still not answered.

I do think that if a nurseryman sells a seedling he ought to definitely

_say that it is a seedling_ and not merely that it is a

"blight-resistant chestnut," or something of that sort. He should

actually tell the public what he is selling.

Now, then, there seem to be reasons why in some instances a man is

justified in planting seedlings when it comes to Chinese chestnuts, but

when it comes to the black walnut or filbert or some of these other

things, they are still selling seedlings without labelling them as such.

I think we should be on record against that practice, because it takes

us five or six years, or ten years sometimes, to find out that we have

been gypped, and it is so easy to gyp the public when you can't find out

about it any sooner than that.

Mr. O'Rourke: I quite agree with Mr. Davidson that the nurserymen should

state that a seedling is a seedling when it is a seedling. And I am sure

Mr. Hirschi will corroborate that the American Association of Nurserymen

is exerting all the influence they can to that end. Is that right, Mr.

Hirschi?

Mr. Hirschi: Yes.

Mr. Bregger: I would like to ask, if planters for some years yet will

have to rely on seedlings, is there a chance that from certain parents

or certain varieties we can get a larger percentage of good seedlings

than from others? How much has it been studied and is there a known

result from the parent trees in the percent of what their seedlings can

do?

Dr. Crane: I wish I could answer that one. It is a matter of time, to

find out the seedling characteristics reproduced by a certain

descendant. But we know that there is a difference in _uniformity_ of

trees in the way they grow, but as far as bearing is concerned, and the

type of nut produced, we haven't had enough time yet.

It's just like this: We have made selections for rootstocks in which we

have selected trees that were good, strong and vigorous--the most

vigorously growing trees that we have known about, and yet at the same

time produced a small nut or medium-sized nut that we could use for the

production of rootstocks. And we have made progress on that, and we have

demonstrated that there is a very marked difference between the

graftability or budability of seedlings from certain parent trees. We

have demonstrated that some varieties are much easier to propagate than

are others. But as for the proper combinations of stock and scion, we

still haven't got enough data to recommend any. We know that there are

differences, but it is going to take quite a long while, at least four

or five years or more, before we know.

Now, there is just one other thing that comes up on propagation. We have

found that if you bench-graft and make the graft into the transition

zone between root and top just like the old method that the apple

propagator used when he piece-root grafted and then plant deep, you can

get a hundred per cent of the grafts to grow. In such cases the scion

may root and the top will be on its own roots.

Well, there are a lot of these tricks to learn as time goes on. I don't

think that we should worry too much about this graft union problem. We

know that this Carr variety is a bear-cat. It is the one that gave us so

much trouble. When we tried to propagate that one we had a real, nasty

cat by the tail. But on the other hand, in answer to Dr. MacDaniels'

question if we go out to Dr. J. Russell Smith's plantings up at Round

Hill (Virginia), we can see a lot of the oldest grafted trees that I

know of anywhere in the country, and the unions are just as smooth and

just as slick as anyone would want to see. They are not 20 years old; I

don't think there was ever a _mollissima_ chestnut grafted 20 years ago.

The first grafting that I know of was about 15 years ago, maybe 18.

Mr. Stoke: In 1932.

Mr. R. C. Moore: Thomas Jefferson grafted European chestnuts.

Dr. Crane: No, I am talking about Chinese chestnuts. We didn't get in

any Chinese chestnuts until 1906. We have this problem of

incompatibility or graft union trouble, in apples, but do you hear

anybody hollering about it? We have it in peaches, plums and cherries.

One of the most important diseases they have out in the Pacific

Northwest and California on Persian walnuts, is what is called "black

line disease." We mustn't get excited about graft union failure. That

has been used, in my opinion, by a lot of people, to discourage the

propagating of grafted chestnuts. There are thousands of people in the

United States who are spending good money for seedling trees, and some

of them are going to get stung. We in the Northern Nut Growers

Association are going to have this thing backfire on us, just as true as

I tell you. I know there are some nurserymen today that are planting

unknown chestnut seeds, and they are selling the trees as Chinese

chestnut. They are planting seed out of mixed orchards, too, that have

_C. seguinii_ and _C. henryi_ and _C. crenata_ trees in them. The _C.

crenata_ Japanese has been introduced in the United States for over 70

years and it has never made the grade.

You know, there has been many a thing that has been promoted in the

United States--big for a few days and then she backfired, and then it

took the industry 50 or a hundred years to recover. You can sell people

gold bricks once, but you can't sell them gold bricks _all_ the time!

Mr. McCollum: Last year after Mr. Hemming's speech--you know, he is the

nurseryman who sells seedlings over on the Eastern Shore--I asked him if

he had been selling those long enough to have heard from customers.

"Yes," he said he had, "all satisfied." Now, I don't know anything about

that.

Dr. Moss: I am not an expert. They say an expert is someone who, the

more he studies, knows less about practically nothing at all. That's a

good deal my shape. I planted before the war Chinese seed in Kentucky

and a good many of those put on burs in the nursery row. I gave them

away in the community. Out of the whole bunch, some of them 20 feet

tall, I know of one outstanding nut in that bunch and it's off by

itself, apparently a self-pollinizer[16], and puts out a crop of good

nuts.

Dr. Cross: I should like to ask Dr. Crane if it would not be possible to

investigate the situation in China rather than wait to work this out.

Certainly, the Chinese have sufficient knowledge of grafting and

propagation to have been working on this long ago, and since these came

from there, let's look into that phase of it.

Dr. Crane: I did investigate the situation in China when I was there.

Unfortunately in China, although it is one of our oldest countries and

longest civilizations, they don't do much grafting. They grow their

trees from seed, but they have certain seed trees that they select their

seed from, and within a community, within a valley, you will have a

certain type of chestnut. They call them varieties. They are not

varieties. That's the situation. Most all of them are different, but

they have accomplished the fixing of certain characteristics.

Now, in South China the nuts are larger in size, they are stronger

growing trees than they are in the North. I think that we will find that

that's the situation in this country. The Chinese chestnut is one that

does have a high heat requirement, just like pecan, and grown under

conditions where they have high heat they are bigger in size and make

more growth and probably they come into bearing sooner.

But I didn't see anything grafted in China, and I was all over the

country from the most northern parts to the most southern parts where

chestnuts are produced. I could make a lot of observations myself, but I

had to talk through interpreters, and sometimes you couldn't tell what

the interpreter meant. But as near as I could tell, they were all

seedlings. When he would tell me there was such-and-such a variety, I

would ask him what it meant in English. He didn't know. When I found

how they were propagated I found they planted the seed. When I found

where they got the seed it was from a certain seed tree.

So we have within the valleys what they call varieties, but they are not

varieties, only seedlings grown from certain seed trees.

Now, with the Japanese, on the other hand, the situation is different,

because they propagated by budding and by grafting. I got a number of

the Japanese publications of propagation methods and their stocks, and

so forth, translated into English, and their problems are just the same

as we are going through right here now. They propagate true varieties by

asexual methods, but the Chinese do not to any extent at all.

Dr. Cross: Have the Russians got any?

A Member: That's the question I ask. Do we have any seed trees in this

country that are better than other seed trees?

Mr. Porter: Could the gentleman tell us whether the Chinese graft _any_

chestnuts.

Dr. Crane: Yes, they do so, I was told.

Mr. Porter: Well, the industry spends a lot of money, so do other

people, and so on, in a proper way to investigate that. Why don't you

find out where in that country they have been doing it?

Dr. Crane: I didn't see any grafted chestnut trees over there.

A Member: You said they grafted, and then you say, "I didn't see any."

Dr. Crane: That's quite right, and I talked to their best horticultural

authorities that they have. Practically all of it is produced by seed

and not by budding or grafting. It is just exactly as I said with the

Persian walnut. China has no varieties of Persian walnuts, although

sometimes you will find some farmer that will bud or graft his trees.

Mr. Porter: They graft up on the limb?

Dr. Crane: Yes, sir. Once in a while you will find one. They have a few

real horticulturists. I met one man over there that would compare very

favorably with Liberty Hyde Bailey.

Mr. Stoke: Dr. MacDaniels asked for concrete evidence. He wanted to know

where there was an orchard with 20-year-old grafted Chinese chestnut

trees. They haven't been planted that long, but I would like to give him

concrete evidence in my own experience.

In 1932 I got scions from the Department, got what ultimately became

known as the Hobson, from Jasper, Georgia. I grafted a tree in my front

yard which is still bearing nicely, and in fact I have got two grafts on

that tree about four feet from the ground, and it is very nice with

perfect union. At the same time I grafted a Carr right at the side of my

house that also has a perfect union about the same height from the

ground. I grafted a scion sent me by Dr. Morris as Morris' best (which

was pretty poor), and it is still living. At the present time I have

perhaps five Carr trees that will average six inches or more in

diameter. The oldest is the one by the side, of the house. The rest of

them were grafted about 1935. One out of those five, when it got to be

about six inches in diameter, in fact, about three years ago, it went

bad. It is girdled and dead. It was grafted about as high as this table

from the ground. The others are sound, and you'd find it very difficult

to find where they were grafted.

I have Hobson, perhaps a dozen trees anywhere from six to 16 years old,

and I have not had a failure on a Hobson that really was once healed

over properly and got to bearing, not one. That's concrete evidence,

Doctor, and that's all I wish to say.

Rev. Taylor (Alpine, Tenn.): Mr. Gravatt was about to answer a question

about our seed trees, wasn't he?

Mr. Gravatt: Would you repeat that question?

Rev. Taylor: Are some seed trees better than others in the high per cent

of good seedlings they produce?

Mr. Gravatt: Well, McKay has done some work and published it to show

that on seedlings of certain trees you get higher percentage of bud

takes than on others.

Mr. Chase: I think the question is a little confused. I think what you

are after is, are there parent seed trees from which seed can be planted

that would produce a good quality of seedlings.

Rev. Taylor: Yes, of good productive seedlings. No grafting to it.

Mr. Chase: I think that was answered. Apparently there are.

Rev. Taylor: Apparently there are in China, as Dr. Crane brought up.

Mr. Chase: He further brought up that those things are in the process of

being tested here now, and he hopes for some information in--what was

that?

Mr. Gravatt: We had Professor Beattie over in Japan, China, and Korea

for two or three years, and he found in Japan that there were certain

selections there, certain grafted varieties that they used for seed

stock. We imported those into this country. We were getting ready to go

ahead with the Japs. We also brought in a hundred varieties of Japanese

chestnuts. But the Japanese varieties didn't do well here. What would

produce well over in Japan didn't produce well here. But a number of

those scions that we grafted in 1932 and 1933 are still living. We have

had very good success with top-working chestnuts in our orchards. We

have some grafts there of pure Chinese chestnuts top-worked on some

worthless Japanese. Some of those have been there for 12 and 14 years,

with perfect unions. But we do receive a number of reports of trees

dying from blight and various other and sundry other causes and when we

examine them quite frequently these have died back to where the trees

had been grafted.

Rev. Taylor: I could enlarge on that question just a little bit to tie

in with what Mr. O'Rourke said. If the nurserymen are going to propagate

seedling trees for the trade for some time yet, where should they be

advised to obtain their seed to get the best possible seedling trees?

Mr. Gravatt: In a lot of our regional distributions we sent out

mixtures. In other places we would send out related seedlings, as "MY,"

"MZ," or "MAX," to different individuals. We have advised all

nurseryman, all of our cooperators, to eliminate the Japanese; eliminate

the hybrids. It gets down to pure Chinese. We have also advised again

and again to take out the more worthless trees and propagate seed from

the beat. But there are a lot of hybrid seeds with mixed parentage going

into nursery trees.

Mr. McDaniel: How many people are going to take out trees now when they

can sell the seeds for at least 50 cents or maybe even $2.00 a pound?

Mr. Gravatt: That's it. However, you take any of those Chinese trees

over there at the Eastern Shore Nurseries, for example--nuts from all 19

of them have been sent over here, and they are all good eating. I have

been over a lot of the seedlings of Hemming's trees. Mr. Hemming has

several hundred at his own place. I have been over other orchard

plantings. There is lot of variability among those seedlings. They are

not as uniform as the parent tree, for some reason. Why, I don't know.

Mr. Chase: Mr. Howell, as a nurseryman, has propagated the Chinese

chestnut tree. Would you care to make a few comments? Mr. Howell has

Howell's Nursery in Knoxville and at Sweetwater, Tennessee, and I

believe has some of Mr. Gravatt's early seedling trees and has produced

a great quantity of seedlings.

Mr. Bruce Howell: A good many years ago we got from the Department five

trees, and they grew and have all borne good nuts, and all chestnuts we

have propagated since have been grown from seed from those five trees,

and most of them are pretty good. One is a small nut, and among more

recent seedlings we have got two of them that don't bear at all, or

haven't so far. Now, we have got a bunch of them where they were set

several years ago in nursery rows. At each end of each row the trees

there bear very nice nuts, and when you get out through that row, the

crowded trees don't bear at all.

I think those seedlings and those trees practically all make fairly good

nuts and some of them excellent. I have got some samples. About six

years ago I got a pound of imported Japanese I planted. The third year

they bore and they have done very well, and all of them are about the

same size chestnuts. They are as good as any _after_ they are roasted or

boiled. That's about all. A good many years ago, I guess 30 years ago, I

grafted Paragon chestnuts, and they did well until the blight.

Rev. Taylor: Does anybody else have this trouble? In North Central

Tennessee we usually have a warm spell about the Middle of February,

plowing time. We expect it every year. And then these Chinese chestnuts

are the quickest trees to let the buds swell, and the bark softens up

all the way to the ground on the young ones. Then we nearly always have

a pretty hard freeze, afterward. So, for several years after our

experimental planting was set out there they would get killed clear to

the ground next year. Is that something others have the same experience

with? How do you go at correcting that?

After our trees got to be three or four or five inches in diameter they

didn't kill back that way. The bark seemed to be tougher.

Mr. McDaniel: That's very common experience in Tennessee and, I might

say, in north Alabama.

Rev. Taylor: Nothing you can do about it?

Mr. McDaniel: On some sites it is not nearly so bad as it is in other

locations. A northern or eastern slope with good elevation seems to be

best.

Mr. Frye: I have had some trouble and maybe, had a good education about

frost pockets. If you get them in high elevations you escape that. I had

that trouble two years ago. I got some Chinese trees from Dr. Smith, set

them out. They were his best seedlings, three of them, and they started

beautifully. I transplanted them. Just about that time they got nipped

off. Did that three times and failed to come out the third time.

Pres. Davidson: One other remedy for that that I remember reading about,

I am not quite sure in which of our Reports--maybe Mr. Becker was the

author, and that is this: He said that he cultivates until August after

which he plants cover crops, and he sows cover crops that grow and they

hold back this vegetative growth in the late part of the year, and it is

really the late vegetative growth that causes the destruction. After he

adopted that plan he had very much less winter killing in his

plantation. That might be one way of helping the situation.

Mr. Hardy: We have had some killing. Usually in the second year or the

first year after we get killing down to the ground, if we will keep the

stock pruned back to one shoot that one will make sufficient growth,

become hardy enough to withstand any cold, or perhaps sun scald. Also

wrapping the trunks of the trees with newspaper helps to prevent the

variations in temperature, which in our section is what causes the cold

injury. We don't have sufficient cold to cause absolute low-temperature

injury, but we do have sudden drops just as you do in Tennessee,

apparently, and wrapping with paper does help iron out those changes.

Mr. McDaniel: Wouldn't you suggest the paper wrap in the summer as well

as the winter and spring?

Mr. Hardy: Yes.

Mr. Stoke: It is not only the planter of the trees that has sorrows

along that line, but the nurseryman does also. I had some nursery

seedlings growing on flat land, and they looked all right, passed the

winter. When I went out to graft them I found that on these small stocks

anywhere from the size of a lead pencil to the size of a finger, the

cambium was discolored. It wasn't black nut brown. Any attempts I made

to graft those failed, and yet many of those same trees grew on. They

were stunted somewhat for a year or two, and they left a brown ring at

that annual growth.

I would say that the best guarantee against that kind of thing is to

plant your chestnut orchards--and the nurseries--to plant on land that

is well air drained. _Select the same site as you would for peaches._

Mr. Chase: I will say that we should have allowed more time for

discussion. However, we have used up our alloted time for this period.

Supper is at six o'clock, and we are due back here at 7:30. I don't know

how you folks feel about this little session, but I certainly did enjoy

it.

[Footnote 14: --Goldsworthy and his associates published several items

along this line in 1948 issues of +Plant Disease Reporter+. His October

15, 1948 item reported a similar result of 25% technical DDT (with 75%

clay) inhibiting growth of seedling peach roots on 1-year budded Elberta

trees. As low as 25 pound per acre application affected growth in quartz

sand cultures, whereas with certain soils, no significant difference was

noted until an 800 lb. per acre level of the DDT was reached. It was

surmised that possibly some unknown constituent in the technical DDT was

responsible for the suppression of new root growth, and consequent

slowing down of top growth. In the case of Blakemore strawberries, and

also with peaches, this effect has persisted for at least two crop

years. Goldsworthy and Dunegan say, "How many other economic crop plants

may be injured is unknown, but it appears certain that some caution is

necessary in the promiscuous use of the chemical on ... plants, either

as ... sprays or as soil additions...." In these experiments, of course,

the DDT-containing material was in direct contact with all the roots.

Spray residues ordinarily would be present only in the surface layer of

the soil, and should have much less effect on tree roots in that

case.--J. C. McDaniel.]

[Footnote 15: --Dr. McKay of the U. S. D. A. found one tree only about

2.5% fruitful to its own pollen.--Ed.]

[Footnote 16: --There is a possibility of pollination from American

chestnut sprouts in his vicinity.--Ed.]

Let's adjourn.

(Whereupon, at 5:30 p. m. the meeting was adjourned, to reconvene at

7:30 o'clock p. m. of the same day.)

+Evening Session+

President Davidson: The meeting will come to order, please. We first

have the pleasure of hearing from Dr. C. A. Moss of Williamsburg,

Kentucky, on Greetings from a Kentucky Nut. Dr. Moss.

Greetings from a Kentucky Nut

DR. C. A. MOSS, Williamsburg, Kentucky

I am glad to see all of these beautiful ladies here this evening. We

just had dinner, and I presume I should make an after-dinner speech. I

have always wanted to attend a Northern Nut Growers Association

convention. I am more or less of what you might call a convention addict

and speak on any occasion on slight provocation. I attended a convention

at Quebec earlier this year, and after that I went on to Rio de Janiero

in South America and attended another convention, but this privilege of

being able to attend the Northern Nut Growers Association tops all the

rest.

I am reminded of the tale of the man who rushed into the sheriff's

office in Texas, and his gun was smoking, and he says, "I have killed a

man." The sheriff said, "Who did you kill?" "Oh," he says, "I don't know

his name. He is one of these after-dinner speakers." "You are in the

wrong room," the sheriff said. "Go back in the hallway three doors to

the right to the bounty room. They pay $5 a head for those."

My family fortunes, if there be any, were founded on nuts. My father

when he was 16 years old was raised on Straight Creek near Pineville,

Kentucky, some hundred miles away from Lexington, and they gathered up a

wagonload of the old chestnuts, he and a hired man on my grandfather's

place, and they took an ox team and took them to Lexington to peddle

them out. It took them three weeks to make the return trip.

I come from Whitney County, Kentucky. It was named after old Colonel

Whitney, the man who built the first brick house in Kentucky. It was in

the fall of the year, and the mortar was freezing, and they mixed

whiskey with their mortar to keep it from freezing.

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