CHAPTER XXIII.

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CONTENTS

OF

THE THIRD VOLUME.

CHAPTER XXIII.

Death of Mr. Thomas Grenville--Russian Measures in Poland--French

Overtures to England--The Confidential Correspondence on the

Spanish Marriage--Relations with France--Hostility of Lord

Palmerston to France--Visit to Paris--Princess Lieven's Version

of the Transaction--Lord Cowley's Opinion--Conversation with

M. Guizot--M. Duch‚tel's Opinion--The exact Truth as to the

Spanish Marriage--Conversation with M. Thiers--A Dinner at M.

Thiers'--Further Argument with M. Guizot--Character of Queen

Christina--Papers laid before the Chamber--Relations of the

British Embassy with the French Opposition--At the Tuileries--Mr.

Baring's Opinion--Debate in the Chamber of Deputies--Mrs.

Austin's Salon in Paris--Debates in England--Bad Effect of Lord

Normanby's Intrigues with Thiers--Another Misunderstanding--M.

de Tocqueville--Ball at the HÙtel de Ville--Animosity of Guizot

and Lord Palmerston--A Call at the Sorbonne and at the HÙtel

Lambert--Change of Government in Spain--Farewell Visit to M.

Guizot--Effect of the English Blue Book--Conversation with M.

Thiers _page_ 1

CHAPTER XXIV.

Return to Paris--Possibility of a Tory Government--Hostility

to Lord Palmerston--Lord Aberdeen's Dissatisfaction--The

Duke's short View of the Case--Sir Robert Peel's Repugnance

to take Office--Lord John Russell--Further Disputes of Guizot

and Lord Normanby--The Quarrel with the Embassy--Lord Stanley

attacks the Government--The Normanby Quarrel--Lord Palmerston

threatens to break off Diplomatic Relations with France--Sir

Robert Peel's Opinion of Lord Palmerston--Mr. Walter--The

'Times'--The Normanby Quarrel made up--Mr. Greville's Opinion

of his own Journals--Income of the Royal Family--Lord George

Bentinck--Lord Normanby's _…tourderies_--The Government gains

Strength--The Irish Poor Law--The Czar places a large Sum with

the Bank of France--State of Ireland--Lord George Bentinck

as a Leader--Foreign Affairs--Archbishop Whately--Birthday

Reflexions--Lord Dudley's Diary--Power of the Press--Mr.

Disraeli and Mr. Moxon--The Defence of the Country--Troubles

in Portugal--Illness of Lord Bessborough--The Duke of

Wellington on the Army--Spain and Portugal--Abolition of the

Lord-Lieutenancy contemplated by Lord John--Difficulty of

abolishing the Lord-Lieutenancy--Deaths of Lord Bessborough

and of O'Connell--Lord Clarendon's Appointment--The End of

O'Connell--The Governor-Generalship of India--Sir James Graham

thought of--Failure of Debates on the Portuguese Question--The

Duke's Statue--The Governor-Generalship of India offered to

Sir James Graham--Sir Robert Peel's Position--Failures of the

Government--The Duke of Wellington's Popularity--Opinion in

Liverpool--Bitter Hostility of Mr. Croker to Peel _page_ 50

CHAPTER XXV.

Panic in the Money Market--The Bank Act--Sir Robert Peel's

Authority--Suspension of the Banking Act of 1844--Death of

the Archbishop of York--Meeting of Parliament--Irish Coercion

Bill--Opinion of the Lord-Lieutenant--Weakness of the Irish

Measures--Sir Robert Peel on the Bank Charter Act--The Duke of

Wellington on the Defences of the Country--English Catholic

Affairs at Rome--Illness of Lord Chancellor Cottenham--Bishop

Hampden's Appointment'--Chloroform--Lamartine's 'Girondins'--The

Hampden Dispute--Death of Lord Harrowby--Taxation--Leadership of

the Opposition--The Hampden War--Scenes in Spain--Visit to Lord

Melbourne--Lord Melbourne at Windsor--Burnham Beeches--Letter to

Cobden--Leadership of the Opposition--Views of Sir James Graham

on the Colonies--Archbishop Sumner--Baron Alderson--Diplomatic

Relations with Rome--Weakness of the Government--Bad Effects of

Lord John's Speech 99

CHAPTER XXVI.

The Revolution in France--Princess Lieven's Narrative--Lamartine's

Position--M. Guizot in London--Proposed Addition to the Income

Tax--Sir Robert Peel spoken of--The State of Paris--The

King's Narrative to Lady Granville--The State of France--The

Convulsion in Europe--State of Ireland--Lord Palmerston invites

Guizot to Dinner--M. Delessert on the State of France--The

Revolution in Vienna--Fall of Metternich--State of England

and Ireland--Lamartine's Reply to the Irish--The Duke's

Preparations--Contemplated Measures of Repression--Lord John

Russell's Coldness--Defence of the Public Offices--Failure of

the Chartist Demonstration--Scene on April 10th--Effect of

April 10th abroad--Measures of the Government--Measures of

Relief for Ireland--Louis Philippe's Defence of the Spanish

Marriages--Lord Palmerston's Conduct in Spain--Lord Clarendon

on Ireland--Lord Palmerston's Affront in Spain--The West India

Interest--Conversation with Sir James Graham _page_ 132

CHAPTER XXVII.

Anarchy in France--Another Omission of Lord Palmerston's--His

Spanish Interference attacked--Sir H. Bulwer's Account of his

Expulsion from Madrid--Conviction of John Mitchell--Lord Grey

objects to Palmerston's Conduct--Mirasol's Mission--Death

of Princess Sophia--Weakness of the Spanish Case--Further

Evasions of Palmerston--The Queen's Attachment to the Orleans

Family--Blunders and Weakness of the Government--Danger

of a Tory Government and a Dissolution--Disturbed State

of London--The Spanish Debate--Measures taken against the

Chartists--Perturbation of Society--Abolition of the Navigation

Laws--The Oaths Bill--Chartist Demonstration--Lord John's

West India Bill--Isturitz leaves England--Sir Henry Bulwer's

Intrigues in Madrid--Lord Clarendon's Distrust of the Irish

Catholics--Dangerous Position of the Government--Prospect

of a Tory Government--Attitude of the Peelites--Lord Grey's

Defence--Defeat of Sir J. Pakington's Amendment--Ferocious

Contest in Paris--Improved Position of the Government--Louis

Philippe's Opinion of the French Generals--Endsleigh--The West

of England--State of Ireland--State of England--Suspension

of the Habeas Corpus Act in Ireland--Collapse of the Irish

Insurrection--Sir Robert Adair--Lord Hardinge's Appointment

to Ireland as Commander-in-Chief--Lord Hardinge in India--The

Sikh Battles--A Chartist Establishment--Capture of Smith

O'Brien--Sicilian Independence--The Sale at Stowe--Anecdote of

Peel and Huskisson--Lord Clarendon on Ireland--Lord Palmerston's

Conduct to Austria and Italy--Debate on Foreign Affairs--State

of France--Irish Troubles--Charles Buller's Schemes for

Ireland--Close of the Session--Death of Lord George Bentinck--Lord

George Bentinck's Political Career--At the Jockey Club 177

CHAPTER XXVIII.

Louis Blanc on France--The Catholic Priesthood--Failure of

Scheme for Ireland--Evils of Total Repeal of Duties--Reaction

in Prussia--A Message from M. Thiers--Conversation of Louis

Philippe with Lord Clarendon--Dinner at Mr. Reeve's--Death of

Lord Melbourne--Death of Charles Buller--Their Characters--Plans

for Ireland--A Dinner of Historians--Election of Louis

Napoleon as President of the French Republic--Death of Lord

Auckland--The Saturnalia of 1848--The Admiralty offered to

Sir James Graham--Graham declines--Lord Palmerston's Attacks

on Austria--Grounds of Sir J. Graham's Refusal--Opening of

Parliament--Debate in the Lords--Debate in the Commons--Mr.

Disraeli the Leader of the Tories--The Irish Policy of the

Government--Lord John Russell limits the Suspension of the

Habeas Corpus Act to Six Months--The Irish Grant--Dreadful State

of Ireland--Admiral CÈcille Ambassador in London--The Ceylon

Committee--Affair of the Sicilian Stores--The Fall of Hudson,

the Railway King--Sir Charles Napier's Appointment to command in

India--The Sicilian Arms _page_ 235

CHAPTER XXIX.

Difficult Position of the Government--A Cloud in the East--Italian

Affairs--Suppression of a Despatch--Sir Charles Napier goes

to India--Sir James Graham's Alarms--Lord John Russell's

Position--Battle of Novara--Opposition to the Repeal of the

Navigation Laws--Sir James Graham's Pusillanimity--State of

France--Conflicting Views on Irish Relief--Lord John contemplates

a Peerage--Interview of Lord Clarendon with Sir Robert Peel--The

Navigation Bill--Maiden Speech of Sir R. Peel's second Son--An

omission of Lord Palmerston's--Lord Palmerston's Opponents--Lord

Palmerston's Defence--A Trip to Scotland--Dr. Candlish's

Sermon--History of the Debates on Foreign Affairs--Extension

of the Suffrage--The Queen's Visit to Ireland--A Council

at Balmoral--Prince Albert's Conversation--Lord Aberdeen's

Views--Lord John's Defence of Lord Palmerston 278

CHAPTER XXX.

The Case of Gorham _v._ the Bishop of Exeter--Death of Lord

Alvanley--The Session opened--State of Parties--Clouds

arise--The Greek Affair--The Ceylon Committee--The Removal of

Lord Roden--The Pacifico Affair--Lord Clarendon arrives--The

Dolly's Brae Debate--The Irish Encumbered Estates Act--The Greek

Affair--Conversation with Sir Robert Peel--The Roden Affair--The

Queen's View of Lord Palmerston's Foreign Policy--Debate on Mr.

Disraeli's Motion--Mr. Gladstone's Equivocal Position--Grillon's

Club--Precarious Position of the Government--The Gorham

Judgement--The African Squadron--Ministerial Troubles--The Greek

Dispute--Lord Campbell Lord Chief Justice--Negotiation between

the Branches of the House of Bourbon--The French Ambassador

recalled from London--Lord Palmerston's Prevarications--The Case

of the French Government--Intention to remove Lord Palmerston

from the Foreign Office--First Speech of Mr. Stanley--Sir James

Graham's Schemes of Reform--Debate in the Lords on the Greek

Dispute--Effects of the Division--Lord Palmerston's Great Speech

300

CHAPTER XXXI.

Accident to Sir Robert Peel--Triumphant Success of Lord

Palmerston--Death of Sir Robert Peel--Sir James Graham's

Position--Lord Palmerston's Policy--Lord Palmerston's

Ovation--Death of Mr. Arbuthnot--Death of King Louis

Philippe--The Papal Hierarchy in England--German Affairs--Papal

Aggression--General Radowitz invited to Windsor--Papal

Aggression--Conversation with Lord John Russell--And with

Lord Palmerston--Mr. Green's Lecture--Visit to Brocket--Bear

Ellice--Lord Melbourne's Papers _page_ 347

CHAPTER XXXII.

Difficulties ahead--Lord John Russell resigns--Conduct of

the Opposition--Lord Stanley waits on the Queen--Sir James

Graham's Views--Ministerial Negotiations--Lord Stanley attempts

to form a Ministry--Lord Stanley fails--The Whig Ministry

returns to Office--Sir James Graham stands aloof--Dislocation

of Parties--Embarrassments arising from the Papal Aggression

Bill--Weakness of the Government--Relations of Sir James Graham

and the Whigs--Debate on the Papal Aggression Bill--A Measure

of Chancery Reform--Lord Stanley at Newmarket--Hostility of

the Peelites--Opening of the Great Exhibition--Defeats of the

Ministry--The Exhibition saves the Government--M. Thiers in

London--Close of the Season--The Jew Bill--Overture to Sir James

Graham--Which is declined--Autumn Visits and Agitation--Lord

John Russell's Reform Bill--The Creed of a Capuchin--Kossuth's

Reception in England--The Kossuth Agitation in England--Mr.

Disraeli on Lord George Bentinck--Sir James Graham's Fears of

Reform--Dangers from Lord Palmerston's arbitrary Conduct--Case of

Greece--Case of Sicily--The Coup d'…tat of the 2nd December 377

CHAPTER XXXIII.

Disraeli's Life of Lord George Bentinck--An approaching

Storm--Peel's Conduct on the East Retford Franchise in 1830--Death

of Mr. Luttrell--Dismissal of Lord Palmerston--Lord Clarendon

declines the Foreign Office--Lord Granville takes the Foreign

Office--Causes of Lord Palmerston's Dismissal--Effects of the

Change--The Complete Story--Lord John negotiates with the

Peelites--Whigs and Peelites--Lord Normanby's Relations with

Louis Napoleon--Foreign Policy of the Country--Thiers' Account of

the Coup d'…tat--Further Details on Palmerston's Dismissal--Lord

Normanby's Recall--Lord John's Explanations--Change of

Government--Lord Derby's First Ministry--Lord Palmerston's

Position--Discredit of the Derby Government--Disraeli's Speech on

the Budget 423

CHAPTER XXXIV.

The Trial of Strength--Defeat of the Government--Shuffling of

Ministers--The No-Popery Cry--Dissolution of Parliament--Character

of the Derby Government--The Ministers--The Opposition--A

Difficult Situation--Public Indifference--Results of the

Elections--Macaulay's Election--Policy of the Opposition--Scheme

of a Coalition under Lord Lansdowne--Lord Derby at

Goodwood--The Herefordshire Election--Sir James Graham's

View of the Situation--Death of Count D'Orsay--Difficulties

of Reconciliation--Lord John Russell's Position--A Divided

Opposition--Lord Granby's Dissatisfaction--Lord John Russell

on Reform--Lord Cowley's Proxy--A Plan to catch Lord

Palmerston--Death of the Duke of Wellington _page_ 452

* * * * *

APPENDICES.

APPENDIX A. DEFENCES OF THE COUNTRY 481

APPENDIX B. THE ANTI-PAPAL AGITATION 486

INDEX 493

A JOURNAL

OF THE

REIGN OF QUEEN VICTORIA.

FROM 1837 TO 1852.

CHAPTER XXIII.

Death of Mr. Thomas Grenville--Russian Measures in Poland--French

Overtures to England--The Confidential Correspondence on the

Spanish Marriage--Relations with France--Hostility of Lord

Palmerston to France--Visit to Paris--Princess Lieven's Version

of the Transaction--Lord Cowley's Opinion--Conversation with

M. Guizot--M. Duch‚tel's Opinion--The exact Truth as to the

Spanish Marriage--Conversation with M. Thiers--A Dinner at M.

Thiers'--Further Argument with M. Guizot--Character of Queen

Christina--Papers laid before the Chamber--Relations of the

British Embassy with the French Opposition--At the Tuileries--Mr.

Baring's Opinion--Debate in the Chamber of Deputies--Mrs.

Austin's Salon in Paris--Debates in England--Bad Effect of Lord

Normanby's Intrigues with Thiers--Another Misunderstanding--M.

de Tocqueville--Ball at the HÙtel de Ville--Animosity of Guizot

and Lord Palmerston--A Call at the Sorbonne and at the HÙtel

Lambert--Change of Government in Spain--Farewell Visit to M.

Guizot--Effect of the English Blue Book--Conversation with M.

Thiers.

[Sidenote: CHARACTER OF MR. THOMAS GRENVILLE.]

_December 19th, 1846._--On Thursday evening at seven o'clock Mr.

Grenville died, after a week's illness which was no more than a severe

cold or influenza. If he had lived till the 31st of this month, he would

have completed his ninety-first year. I had only known him with any sort

of intimacy for the last five or six years, during which I saw a good

deal of him. He was a remarkable man, not so much from great ability as

from a singular healthiness of mind and body and the greenness of his

old age. I never saw so old a man in possession of such mental and

bodily faculties; his only infirmity was deafness; till about a year ago

he used to walk vigorously; he never had an illness till the one with

which he was attacked the year before last, and from which he recovered

entirely though with strength somewhat impaired. His memory was

remarkable; his cheerfulness, vivacity, and kindness of disposition

delightful. He evinced an affection for his relations and a cordiality

to his friends that were pleasant to behold, and he was not only

entirely free from the moroseness and captiousness which so often attend

old age, but he blended an extreme suavity of manner and sweetness of

temper with the high-bred politeness of the more ceremonious age in

which he had flourished. He was certainly the most amiable and engaging

specimen of an old man I ever beheld. I do not conceive that his

abilities were ever first-rate, and latterly (whatever may have been the

case early in life) he entertained very strong prejudices and often very

unreasonable ones; these prejudices caused him to act in some instances

in a manner inconsistent with the urbanity of his disposition. He never

could endure the Reform Bill or forgive its authors; he never would set

his foot in Holland House after that measure; and he estranged himself

from all his old political friends, even those with whom he had been the

most intimate, not indeed absolutely quarrelling with them, but

desisting from all intimacy. He was a scholar and a well-informed man,

and he retained till the last all his literary tastes and habits; he

loved the society of literary men, and to the last entered with zest and

spirit and unimpaired intelligence into all questions both of literature

and politics. It is difficult to say what the exact colour of his

political opinions was. He used to be a Whig; but he was, at all events

latterly, a moderate anti-reforming Whig, with a horror of organic

changes and not fond of any changes, disliking free trade and disliking

Cobden more; favourable to Catholic emancipation and the establishment

of a Catholic Church, but abhorring O'Connell who was his _bÍte noire_,

and in his eyes the incarnation of all evil and mischief. He never was

married, but when he was young he was desperately in love with the

Duchess of Devonshire, and he never married because her image remained

enthroned in his breast, and he never could find any other woman to be

compared with her. For many years he was a poor man, and he never became

a rich one till the death of Lord Glastonbury, who left him an estate

and a great deal of money; the estate, which was entailed on his nephew

George Neville, he generously gave up to him at once. He lived

hospitably and handsomely, and was, I am told, very generous and

charitable. His greatest expense was in books; he had collected a

library of extraordinary value, and which for the size of it has always

been reckoned the most complete of any private collection. It continued

to interest and occupy him to the last, and he never ceased to add to it

as occasion offered; he was, indeed, one of the last of the great

collectors, of the bibliomaniacs; he collated every book himself, and

placed in the title-page of each, in his own handwriting, an account of

the book, where purchased, and its history when of any interest. His

society in latter years was restricted, and he was not fond of making

new acquaintances unless he fell in with them by accident, when he was

easily approachable and always disposed to carry them on. He had

constantly dinners and very agreeable ones, and it was wonderful to see

him at ninety years old doing the honours of his table with all the

energy, gaiety, and gallantry of a man in the prime of life. A happier

life and an easier death it would be difficult to discover; his life was

extended to nearly a century without any intermission of bodily health,

any decay of mental faculties, and, what is more extraordinary and more

valuable, without any deadness or coldness of human affections. He was

blessed with affluence, with the love of rational and elevating

pursuits, and with ample leisure and power to enjoy them. He was a

philosopher, a gentleman, and a Christian, and he lived in constant

social intercourse with the relations to whom he was attached, or the

friends of his predilection, to all of whom he was an object of the

deepest respect and affection. A life so tranquil and prosperous was

terminated by a death no less easy and serene; his indisposition was not

such as to interfere with his usual habits; he rose at his accustomed

hour and dressed himself to the last, even on the day of his death. He

had always a book, latterly the Prayer Book, before him, and his mind

was undisturbed and unclouded. He dined and went to sleep in his chair,

and from that sleep he never awoke.

_December 20th._--On Friday morning an article in the 'Times' announced

that the Emperor of Russia was going to annex Poland to his empire,

putting an end to the last vestige of Polish nationality. Yesterday

morning the 'Chronicle' declared this report was exaggerated, if not

erroneous, and that all that was contemplated was the abrogation of

custom-house regulations between the Russian and Polish frontiers. The

history of these contradictory articles is this: On Wednesday at the

Cabinet dinner Palmerston brought this piece of news, communicated to

him by Bunsen, who was in a great state of alarm and indignation, and

said that Metternich was equally alarmed and eager to do something. The

Austrian and Prussian proposals were severally these: Metternich wished

for a declaration that the annexation of Cracow should not be used as a

precedent, but considered as an exceptional case. Bunsen suggested that

a naval demonstration should be made in the Baltic by us, of course in

conjunction with Austria and Prussia. These two Powers now begin to see

what an egregious folly they have committed in the Cracow affair, and

are filled with shame and terror. The next morning, Friday, Palmerston

saw Brunnow, and he asked him whether this story was true. Brunnow said

he was glad he had asked him, and that he could assure him he had never

heard one word of it and did not believe it, that he believed it to be a

mere fiscal regulation which would be advantageous to the Poles and not

agreeable to the Russians, but that the reported political move he

disbelieved. He had, however, written to Nesselrode to ask what the

real truth was. Palmerston, without doubt, on this sent the article to

the 'Morning Chronicle;' there is a phrase at the end of it about Guizot

quite Palmerstonian. It is amusing to see the two papers moved by

different ministerial interests. John Russell told me at Windsor

yesterday that he believed the first account. It certainly seems to me

that it is a very bad piece of policy of the Emperor's, if true; he has

accomplished the absorption of Poland already in fact, and what can it

signify to him to do so in form? By degrees he has stripped the Poles of

almost all national distinctions, and he has only to go on as he has

been doing for some time past to complete his work; nobody opposed,

nobody remonstrated with him at each successive violation of those

privileges which all Europe guaranteed; and now the Powers, who

patiently and tamely endured the most flagrant violations in fact, are

ready to explode with indignation at an announcement of them in form.

[Sidenote: RUSSIAN MEASURES IN POLAND.]

James Rothschild is come over here, partly on his own concerns, and

partly on Louis Philippe's, who is very intimate with him and talks to

him often and confidentially. He has been with our Ministers, at least

with Lord Lansdowne and Lord Clarendon (I do not know if he has been

with any others), and said a great deal about the King's intense desire

to be well with England again, asked if we wanted to get rid of Guizot,

and intimated that if his fall would facilitate the reconciliation he

would be sacrificed without scruple. They have no doubt whatever that he

is authorised by the King to convey this to our Government. Clarendon

told him that Palmerston would not walk across the room to get rid of

Guizot, and did not care one farthing whether he was in or out; but that

he was not surprised that they should fancy he might desire it, knowing

as he did that they had left no stone unturned to bring about his

removal from the Foreign Office, so far as they were able to say or to

do anything to that end.

_December 24th._--Jarnac was with me for three hours yesterday, and I am

going to him to-day to see some of his papers. The whole of our

conversation resolves itself into this: he said that they really had

believed that the Coburg marriage was _imminent_; that they had given

ample and repeated notice (especially in the note of February 27) that,

if ever they saw this, they should act accordingly, consider the Eu

engagement at an end, and take their own line; that they never could get

Palmerston to put on paper distinctly that we did not and would not

encourage this match. This, involved in a vast deal of phraseology, and

many minute details, with a great deal of false reasoning, and facts

contradictory of each other, made up his whole discourse. I endeavoured

to pin him down to one or two points, from which he was always trying to

escape, and to cover his retreat by verbiage.

I have made up my mind to go to Paris, Lady Normanby having offered to

take me in at the Embassy: this temptation decides me.

_December 25th._--Yesterday I was with Jarnac for three hours and a

half, reading papers. He showed me everything: the copy of the famous

despatch of July 19 (Palmerston to Bulwer), which was (as they say) the

_fons et origo mali_; all Guizot's private letters to him, and his to

Guizot; _ditto_, between him and the king; his _procËs-verbaux_ of

conferences with Palmerston; copy of the note of February 27 (on which

they so much rely); the letter of Guizot's which was sent to John

Russell, and John's admirable answer; Jarnac's own rejoinder; Guizot and

the King on this correspondence: in short, he gave me to read all that

was material, and that I had time to read in these three or four hours.

At all events, I believe I am now as completely in the possession of the

case on both sides as it is possible to be, and all this information and

knowledge has not changed my opinion.

It is clear that we have been jockeyed by France in a very shabby,

uncandid, underhand way. Guizot's private letters, admirably written,

bear on them all the stamp of sincerity and conviction, and are

calculated to impress anybody with the belief that he was sincere, and

that he thought he was doing what he had a right to do as regarded

England, and what it was his duty to do as to France. But where rights

and duties are clear, there is no need of concealment; everything may

be, and ought to be, open and above board; and besides the object of

defeating a Coburg scheme and securing the Spanish bride, there was that

of preserving the _entente cordiale_, which he could not expect to do,

acting as he did.

[Sidenote: THE SPANISH MARRIAGES.]

When disentangled from all its envelopments of verbiage and mutual

insinuations, the case resolves itself into one of two very simple

points, and lies in a very narrow compass:--The new ministers came into

office about July 7; it was then about a fortnight afterwards that

Jarnac spoke to Palmerston about the Queen of Spain's marriage (not a

word about the Infanta _de part ou d'autre_). Palmerston had written to

Bulwer on the 19th, and he read this despatch to Jarnac, and gave him a

copy of it (confidentially) to send to Paris. This was the despatch on

which they ground their whole case. It treated of two subjects: the

marriage of the Queen, and the internal government of Spain. It was very

able, very sound, but it was extremely imprudent to communicate it to

the French Government. The substance of it was this: that we always had

considered the marriage as a Spanish question, in which no foreign power

had any right to interfere. That there were three candidates left in the

field (Trapani and young Carlos being out of the field), 'Prince of

Coburg and two sons of Don Francisco;' that we only desired that the

Queen might take whichever of them would most conduce to her own

happiness and the good of Spain. We neither supported nor objected to

any of them; that therefore there were no instructions to be given to

Bulwer, as it was only necessary to refer to those of his predecessor,

on which he would continue to act. Then came a severe criticism on the

Spanish Government, and the overthrow of all law and constitutional

rights, still desiring Bulwer not to interfere in any way, but not to

conceal the sentiments of the English Government thereupon. This was

very strong, very bitter, and necessarily very offensive to the Spanish

Government, and to their abettors and protectors at Paris; however

true, and however fit to be written by Palmerston to Bulwer, it was not

wise to put it in the hands of the French Minister.

After the communication of this despatch, various letters and

conversations passed with remonstrances, and not without some vague

threats. Jarnac at once objected to what was said about the Prince of

Coburg, complained it was different from the understanding with

Aberdeen, and asked if it could not be _reconsidered_. The reply was

that it was already gone. Guizot's reply to the receipt of this despatch

was confirmatory of Jarnac's objections, and the latter made various

attempts to obtain from Palmerston something on paper to the same effect

as the verbal assurances which Palmerston gave him. Palmerston replied

(as Jarnac reported) that he could not do this without consulting his

colleagues. In the meanwhile (I don't exactly recollect the date),

Jarnac spoke to the Duke of Bedford and Clarendon, and had an interview

with John Russell. From all of these he admits, as well as from

Palmerston himself, he received the most positive assurances that we did

not, and would not, support the pretensions of the Prince of Coburg, and

that we had no thoughts of departing from the principle laid down by

Lord Aberdeen. It was certainly very imprudent of Palmerston to show

this despatch of the 19th, and it is clear to me that he did it for the

pleasure of provoking the French Government, and showing them what we

thought of the whole management of Spanish affairs. It was, in fact, a

covert and indirect but a bitter attack on them. Next, he was

inexcusable for not giving them in writing that which they required, and

for allowing nearly five weeks to pass away after their urgent demand

for it, before he wrote (on August 28) the despatch, which did not reach

Madrid till long after the marriages had been settled and proclaimed.

The despatch of the 19th, which Bulwer was not desired to communicate to

the Court of Spain, having been placed in Guizot's hands, he forthwith

sent it to Bresson, who lost no time (but without Bulwer's knowledge) in

communicating it to the Spanish Ministers, to whom it was sure to be

most offensive. Taking dates into consideration, it is difficult to

doubt that at the same time, or very shortly after, Bresson was ordered

to settle the marriages of both princesses, for this despatch is dated

July 19, and on August 28 the 'Gazette' at Madrid published the Royal

announcement of the Queen's marriage. Not one word, however, was ever

hinted to our Government of any such instructions being given or being

contemplated. In one of Guizot's letters to Jarnac he gives him to

understand that, much as he is dissatisfied, he shall do nothing fresh;

and, during the whole of this interval, Jarnac continued to press

Palmerston for some positive and written disclaimer--that is, he did

when he had the opportunity, for during a considerable part of this time

Palmerston was sailing with the Queen. There was, indeed, one letter of

Guizot's hinting at his taking a line of his own, 'une politique

isolÈe;' but this was too vague (if it were communicated, which is not

clear) to excite any serious apprehension in anybody's mind. It is,

however, clear that well-informed persons did think it imprudent of

Palmerston not to give the French Government at once the satisfaction

they demanded, and, as I have before said, both Normanby and William

Hervey wrote over very strongly on the subject.

[Sidenote: BREACH OF THE ENGAGEMENT.]

At last, early in September, the news came like a thunderclap that both

the marriages were settled and declared; and then began the feeling of

indignation and resentment which broke up the intimacy between the two

Courts, and infused such bitterness into our diplomatic relations. The

war of notes began, and the world will judge whether Palmerston or

Guizot had the best of it. The flimsiness of their pretext for breaking

an engagement they admit to have made is the more obvious the more it is

considered; and that it was a pretext, and one of which they wanted to

avail themselves, is evident from the care they took to make no previous

allusion to the note of February 27, which they have since endeavoured

to turn to so much account. This was a note not delivered but read to

Aberdeen, in which they said that, if the Coburg marriage appeared to be

imminent, they should hold themselves disengaged from their pledges.

They now pretend that they forgot this note was not delivered, and did

not know that Palmerston was not cognisant of it, but they never took

any opportunity of finding out whether he was, nor of renewing to him

the menace or intimation it contained. This omission and their secret

instructions to Bresson, while they not only kept us in the dark, but

did their best to blind us, are sufficient to convict them of duplicity

and bad faith. Palmerston, on his side, may be blamed for imprudence and

negligence. The way in which it was taken up here, and especially the

things Palmerston said, exasperated Guizot prodigiously, and no doubt

the King still more; and it was under this irritation that he wrote his

letter (September 15) to Jarnac, containing a bitter philippic against

Palmerston, his whole character and policy, and a comparison between him

and John Russell, much to the advantage of the latter. This letter

Jarnac was instructed to send to John Russell. He told me that he was so

well aware of its imprudence that he remonstrated against the order, and

delayed several days to obey it. His remonstrance was disregarded, and

he was desired to give the letter to John Russell. He took it, however,

to Palmerston, told him he had a letter which he was charged to show to

John Russell, but, as it contained matter relating to him (Palmerston),

he thought it right to place it in his hands that he might read it first

and forward it to Lord John after. Palmerston said he did not want to

see it, and would not look at it. On this he sent it to Lord John, who

showed it to Palmerston, and wrote Jarnac an admirable but very severe

answer, commenting in strong terms on the conduct of France, and

expressing his entire concurrence with Palmerston in every particular.

This reply must have been gall and wormwood to Louis Philippe, and very

disagreeable to Guizot. Jarnac wrote an answer to Lord John, rather a

rigmarole, but defending the King. This answer seems to have had great

success at Paris, whatever it may have had here, for there were letters

from both the King and Guizot; the first thanking his champion in very

warm terms, and the latter praising his zeal and eloquence.

[Sidenote: THE RUPTURE.]

The estrangement was now complete, and resentment openly testified. The

two Courts were _brouillÈs_; the Ministers collectively, Palmerston

individually, and Normanby at Paris, all put themselves in a cold and

forbidding attitude. Our refusal to join with France in the Cracow

affair was received as a hostile expression, and it is evident that the

King and Guizot have been getting more and more uneasy at the

estrangement, in which we persist. It is, however, not easy to discover

how far the Monarch and the Minister are acting in real conjunction, and

whether the former is faithful or false to the latter. Guizot's conduct

and the tone of his letters do not entirely correspond; the latter

evince a strong desire to obtain a sufficient security about the Coburg

alliance, and certainly strenuous efforts were made by Jarnac to extract

some document which might have been so considered; while, if we judge by

his acts, it would seem that all the French wanted was a pretext for

concluding the marriage, and such a written assurance as he kept

demanding would have counteracted their clever scheme of deception and

fraud. It strikes me as very possible that the King and Guizot were not

acting together; that the intrigue was the King's, which Guizot did not

dare or could not defeat or obstruct, but that while he was obliged to

work out the King's design, he would have been really glad if we had

given such clear and formal assurances as would have rendered the

execution of the plan impossible. I did not conceal from Jarnac my

opinion that he had failed to make his case any better; he was not a

little mortified at the admiration I expressed of John Russell's letter,

in which I in vain attempted to get him to join.

The next morning, just as I was setting off to Badminton, he came to me

in consequence of letters he had received from Paris, in which he was

informed that Normanby had openly said that the two countries could

never be on good terms again till Guizot was turned out and we had

obtained a renunciation from the Duchess de Montpensier; this they

believed, and that it was the echo of sentiments entertained here. I

told him I did not believe a word of it, either that Normanby had said

it, or that anybody here wanted to turn Guizot out; that lies of this

sort were always rife on such occasions, and I had just heard a story of

Louis Philippe's abusing our Queen at the tea-table at Neuilly, which I

had no doubt was just as false as the one he had told me, and they might

be set against one another. He then asked if our Government were not

going to lay papers before Parliament in which Guizot would be

implicated, and if so, if they would not first give him a copy of them,

and he glanced at the printed papers to which I had referred in my

conversation with him. He said in Aberdeen's time such things were

always done in concert, and each Government previously communicated to

the other everything it meant to publish, but of course this could not

be the case now. I told him I did not believe anything was decided about

papers; I knew of none, and what he saw in my hands was nothing but the

notes of the recent correspondence printed at the Foreign Office by the

Government press for the exclusive use of the Cabinet, to whom it would

have been too long a process to send written copies; that such was the

practice here with regard to all important papers of any length.

_Broadlands, December 30th._--I came to town on Monday from Badminton,

where I went to spend Christmas. When I got back I wrote a long letter

to the Duke of Bedford giving him an account of my communications with

Jarnac and my opinion of Palmerston's conduct of the affair. I told him

I was going to Paris, begged he would show Lord John my letter, and said

that if he (Lord John) wished me to say anything or to take any

particular tone, to let me know. I received an answer this morning, cold

enough. Lord John only replied that as I was coming here it was not

necessary for him to see me. There was a very foolish passage about our

relations with France, 'that there could be no reconciliation, and the

spirit of Lord John's letter to Jarnac must be maintained.' The sort of

disposition they evince, half desirous to make it up, and half to

_bouder_ on, seems to me exceedingly little and unwise.

[Sidenote: PROPOSED REVIVAL OF THE SALIC LAW.]

Yesterday I found Clarendon at the Board of Trade, and had a very long

conversation with him; he is now all for trying to make something of the

proposal to get the Salic Law re-established in Spain, having in the

first instance scouted it. It was first proposed to him by Baron Billing

as a solution of the difficulty; he at once rejected it as impossible.

Now he has changed his mind, and he wrote to Palmerston and Lord John to

say so, and to propose writing to Billing to ask whether he had made

this proposal with the knowledge and assent of Guizot, and if the French

Government was prepared to assist in procuring such a settlement at

Madrid. Lord John expressed doubts, and thought nothing would come of it

but some fresh falsehood and deceit. Palmerston thought the plan a good

one, and that it was worth while to write to Billing, which Clarendon

had done, and he showed me the letter. I think the scheme utterly

chimerical, and so I told him; in fact, it strikes me as one of the most

absurd and impracticable that ever entered the mind of man. I stated the

different objections that occurred to me, one (not the least) being that

no Spaniard would be likely to support a measure almost sure eventually

to produce another civil war. He said that before Olozaga left Paris he

had been to William Hervey, who asked him if he would be willing to

support such a measure. He replied that he would, and he thought all the

Progressista party would likewise; but while he now looks to this as a

possible solution of our difficulty, Clarendon is very anxious by some

means to restore a good understanding, and he begged me to tell Guizot

that if his language in the King's Speech and in the Chambers was

moderate, he would compel a corresponding moderation here, but at the

same time he informed me that it was Palmerston's intention to supply

Thiers with information to use against Guizot; and he said this without

any expression of disapprobation. It was at the end of our conversation,

but the next day, upon reflecting on this, I wrote him a very strong

letter denouncing the impolicy and the danger of such a communication to

such a man. I might have also urged the immorality of it, and its

inconsistency with the profession of not wanting to injure Guizot or

turn him out; the more I think of this the more shocked I am. If it is

done, and Thiers exhibits good information, the French Government will

know well enough how he came by it.

[Sidenote: LORD PALMERSTON ON THE SPANISH MARRIAGE.]

Here I have had a long conversation with Lady Palmerston, from which I

infer that Palmerston's fixed idea is to humble France and to make her

feel her humiliation, and, in order to do so, to connect himself more

closely with the three Powers, who appear to be ready to do anything for

him if he will break with France. She abused Aberdeen, and said he had

made his agents all over the world act in subserviency to the French;

this system Palmerston considers it his mission to put an end to, and I

gather that he means on the contrary to thwart and oppose France

whenever and wherever he can. She told me that these Powers were now

better disposed than ever to us, and regarding France as the most

encroaching Power, only wanted to join us in keeping her down. I took an

opportunity of telling Palmerston that Bunsen and Prince Albert want to

have a pamphlet written about Cracow and German affairs, and that the

former had proposed to Reeve to write it; Reeve said he had no objection

provided Palmerston was first consulted and approved, and this he wrote

to Bunsen.[1] I told Palmerston that Reeve wished him to be apprised of

this. He said he was much obliged to me for giving him an opportunity of

thinking of it, but that his impression was that it would be better not

to write anything, as Cracow was now an affair settled and done, and it

was not desirable to say anything offensive to the three Powers, whose

co-operation with us was essential in the far more important concern of

the Spanish marriages. From this I infer that he means to continue to

wage war on the Montpensier marriage, and to form a sort of preparatory

league against France. I am greatly alarmed at the spirit he evinces,

and fully expect we shall sooner or later get into some scrape. This

evening (31st) I had a long conversation with him, in which he discussed

Jarnac's communications with me (which I had told Lady Palmerston) and

with him. He declares he gave him the verbal assurances he asked for as

strongly as possible, and he does not believe anything else he might

have done would have produced any effect in arresting the progress of

the intrigue at Madrid. The French pretend that the Spanish Court

insisted on having Montpensier, and that the Queen only consented to

marry her cousin on condition that the King gave his son to the Infanta;

that this match was therefore a Spanish and not a French object. He said

that Villa Franca (Montemolin's man) told him that when he was at Paris

Louis Philippe said to him that he wished the Count de Montemolin to

marry the Queen; that he had only to renounce his claims, which would be

a mere form, as he would declare himself King as soon as he was married,

and that he contemplated the restoration of the Salic Law, which at all

events he should insist on, as far as the Infanta was concerned,

whenever the Duke de Montpensier married her. Palmerston's present idea

is that this restoration of the Salic Law may be effected, and that the

Spaniards will adopt such a course. I pointed out the difficulty and the

levity of such a proceeding: enacting a law one day which cuts off the

contingent rights of Don Carlos and his family and lets in Ferdinand's

two daughters; then abrogating this law and restoring the former course

of succession, but preserving only one of the sisters thus let in and

excluding the other, and excluding also the heir under the abrogated law

now again to be restored, thus re-establishing the law but not

re-establishing the rights which that law conferred. All this would make

such a mass of confusion and contradictions, and abrogating some rights

and creating others so partially, arbitrarily, and capriciously, that

the certain result would be a future state of uncertainty, rivalry, and

strife. He did not say a word to me of my journey to Paris, nor I to

him.

[Footnote 1: [No pamphlet was written, but the substance of the Prince's

views on the seizure of Cracow was published in an article in the

'Edinburgh Review,' vol. lxxxv. p. 261.]]

_London, January 2nd, 1847._--Returned from Broadlands yesterday; I had

written from thence to Clarendon, and told him my impressions. He

thinks that part of what was said of Aberdeen is true. English agents

everywhere _were_ made subservient to the French, and to such an extent

that they did not dare complain of any French misconduct, because they

knew they should be reproved and run the risk of being humiliated in

their public capacities, and he attributes to this _laissez faire_ of

Aberdeen's much of Louis Philippe's success in his intrigues, and the

uncomfortable state of things in Europe. He had been over to John

Russell at Chorley Wood, and found him in no state of bitterness, but

sick of foreign affairs and the plots and intrigues he had been so

troubled with, and so absorbed with the much more important subject of

Ireland that he could take no interest in the former. In short,

Clarendon has in great measure succeeded in dissipating my alarm. He

recommends that I should advise moderation, and give the French

Government to understand that a moderate tone there will secure one

here, and he has sent me a letter for Duch‚tel, with whom he wishes me

to communicate confidentially.[2]

[Footnote 2: He endeavoured to tranquillise me about the information to

Thiers, and said of course it would be given with great caution. It did

not tranquillise me, however, and my soul was prophetic. What mischief

has resulted from this false and profligate step! (February 21st).]

_January 3rd._--I saw M. de St. Aulaire and Jarnac yesterday, and had

much conversation with both. St. Aulaire said he saw he had nothing to

do but remain _les bras croisÈs_, and say as little as possible.

I go to-night.

[Sidenote: M. GUIZOT'S EXPLANATION.]

_Paris, January 6th._--Arrived here yesterday morning at half-past

twelve o'clock, travelling all night from Boulogne. I had no sooner got

here than Normanby put into my hands a box of papers, copies of his

despatches to Palmerston, containing details he was anxious I should

know, and filling up gaps in the history of the Spanish affair. The most

essential of these papers are despatches to Palmerston, giving an

account of two interviews with Guizot, and as to which there could be no

mistake, as he read to Guizot his letter, giving the details of one of

them (the most important). Guizot acknowledged its general accuracy, and

made a verbal amendment or two in it. I take for granted these papers

will be published. Normanby is very anxious they should, and justly

considers that unless they are, the strength of our case will never be

known. There are certain things contained in them which Guizot never can

explain away satisfactorily, and which must leave a stain on his candour

and good faith. On August 28 Normanby formally proposed to Guizot a

joint action in favour of Enrique; he replied that this would suit him

perfectly, and that he would write to Bresson and instruct him

accordingly. On that very day the announcement of the two marriages

appeared in the Spanish Gazette. Normanby of course subsequently asked

for an explanation of this extraordinary conduct. Guizot seems to have

lost his head in the excitement of his exploit, for he replied that

hearing nothing to satisfy him, and on the strength of his note of

February 27, 'J'ai agi'--that is, that he had already acted

independently and hostilely long before the day on which he pretended

that he would give instructions to Bresson to act conjointly with us. He

endeavoured to excuse this duplicity by saying that Bresson had acted on

general, not on particular instructions; but this was inconsistent with

his 'J'ai agi.' Then about the time of the celebration of the marriages,

he had said they would not take place at _the same time_; again, on

being pressed on this point, he said he had meant that they would not

take place _together_, and that such had not been the intention when he

said so. Jarnac told me the other day that he had heard great stress was

laid on this by us, and that we meant to make it a matter of grave

charge. I said I did not believe it was so seriously considered, and

doubted that much more was thought about it, though at first it had been

considered as a proof of insincerity; but I find that it is of

importance, for upon the expectation thus conveyed by Guizot rests

Palmerston's defence for one of the weakest points of his case, his long

silence after hearing of the marriages being settled. Palmerston's

conduct and his delays throughout have been quite inconceivable, and

certainly will, if not weaken his case, draw considerable censure upon

him if it all comes out. There was, in the first place, his neglect and

obstinacy in not giving in writing the assurances he had given verbally;

next, as to the proposal of joint action, Jarnac came to him, intending

to make the proposal, but in consequence of the despatch of July 19 he

did not make it. He then went to Paris, and on his return he did make

it. He could get no answer, and none was sent till August 22. Bulwer was

then instructed to propose Enrique, and the French Government was

invited to instruct Bresson to co-operate, but he allowed a month to

elapse before he wrote this instruction; then when the conclusion of the

marriages was imparted to him, he suffered three weeks to elapse before

he took any notice, and then sent his protest. It never would have been

effectual, but the only chance for him would have been an instantaneous

remonstrance by return of post. All these delays, such tardiness,

coupled with other slight circumstances, give some colour to the

proceedings of the French Government, and, to a certain degree, help out

their case. Normanby is fully conscious of the damage thus done to ours,

and the only excuse for the last delay is, that Palmerston was reposing

on the assurance that the marriage of the Infanta was not to take place

at the same time with that of the Queen; but this, when examined, will

appear hardly any excuse.

[Sidenote: PRINCESS LIEVEN ON THE QUARREL.]

I called yesterday afternoon on Madame de Lieven, who was very glad to

see me, and we forthwith broke into the subject, without, however, any

sort of agreement. She abused Palmerston, and said if Aberdeen had been

in office it would not have happened. As to argument, she really had

none to offer, but repeated over and over that 'we had departed from the

agreement with Aberdeen;' and if not, 'pourquoi nommer le Cobourg?' She

said all Europe was against us, that we had with little dignity knocked

at the doors of the three Powers who turned their backs on us, and that

we had done good to France and harm to ourselves by this useless appeal,

as they were now more alienated from us and better inclined to the

French, and that they all thought us in the wrong. She said much about

Normanby, his _greenness_ as ambassador, and the follies he committed;

asking advice of different people, and very incompetent people too; and

she repeated the story Jarnac had told me of his saying we never should

have harmony restored till Guizot was turned out and the Infanta had

renounced, which, she said, had been told her by Apponyi, who had heard

it from Normanby himself. She had got other stories of the same kind,

and a heap of little charges of holding communications with Thiers,

MolÈ, and others hostile to the Government. She said that the King was

very angry with our Queen for having said that he had broken his word,

and never would be reconciled to her till she had withdrawn that

accusation. I said that between his word and hers I could not for a

moment doubt, and that I suspected he would have a long time to wait if

he did so till she withdrew the charge she had made. She said Guizot was

very strong, the King very firm, the marriage very popular, and that

they all desired nothing so much as to make known all that had passed,

secure that in so doing they should have public opinion all the world

over on their side. We parted wide as the poles asunder, but very good

friends.

_January 7th._--Guizot appointed me at four o'clock yesterday, but when

I went there he was not returned from the Council. I called again and

saw him for a moment; but as he said he had his courier to despatch, and

'avait ‡ me parler sÈrieusement,' he begged me to go to him to-day at

half-past four.

I called on Lord Cowley,[3] and had a long conversation with him. He is

impatient for a reconciliation, and thinks that far too great importance

has been attached to the question itself. He blames Palmerston severely

for his despatch of July 19, and thinks that more warning and menace

were held out than I had conceived;[4] that _his_ communications ought

to have satisfied Palmerston that the French Government were in an

excited state and prepared to do something unless he prevented them.

This makes his delays still more inexcusable. He also fancies that it

would never have happened if Aberdeen had remained in office.

[Footnote 3: [Henry, Lord Cowley, younger brother of the Duke of

Wellington (born 1773), had been Ambassador at the Court of France under

the late Government. He resigned on the fall of Sir Robert Peel's

Administration, but remained as a private gentleman in Paris until his

death, which took place in April 1847, shortly after this interview.]]

[Footnote 4: Miraflores came to Paris for (see _post_) the purpose of

getting something settled. He told the King that Trapani was out of the

question, the two sons of Don Francisco de Paula almost impossible from

the Queen's dislike of both, especially of Don Enrique, on account of

his insolent letter to her from Bayonne. If, therefore, His Majesty

would not give them his own son, he entreated him to leave them alone

and let them choose for themselves. The King answered very angrily, said

he would not give the Duke de Montpensier, still urged one of the

Spanish Princes, but above all recommended delay, and to take time for

consideration. This Miraflores told to Lord Cowley, who wrote it home to

Palmerston. This is the communication which Palmerston alludes to in his

long note, but he is very incorrect in his allusion.]

At night to the Opera, where I met Thiers and was introduced to MolÈ. I

am to call on Thiers to-morrow afternoon. MolÈ told Normanby that he was

very uneasy about two things,--the arrest of Olozaga in Spain, and the

intervention of the Austrians in Italy, which he expected to take place.

MolÈ, by Normanby's account, speaks very disparagingly of Guizot, and,

by Madame de Lieven's, very contemptuously of Normanby. It is amusing

enough to hear all the stories the people here tell and the opinions

they express of one another.

[Sidenote: DISCUSSION WITH M. GUIZOT.]

_At night._--This morning I called on Madame de St. Aulaire, whom I

found, and Madame de Gontaut, whom I did not; then, Madame de Lieven.

Much talk on the old subject, and the fire of my tongue extinguished the

fire of hers, for, without the least convincing her, I reduced her to

silence. The great gun I brought to bear on her was Aberdeen's despatch

to the Duke de Sotomayor, which proved that Palmerston had in no way

departed from the system of conduct pursued by Aberdeen. From her I went

to Guizot, and was with him for an hour and a half. We began with an

agreement that we should be mutually frank and sincere. He went through

the whole case and exhibited all his causes of complaint and suspicion

against Palmerston, that when he came into office he never said a word

(in public or private) expressive of a desire to be on good terms with

France, neither in his speech at Tiverton, nor in the House of Commons,

nor to Jarnac; that he never alluded to the Spanish question nor sought

to establish or confirm an understanding thereupon with France; that the

despatch he wrote to Bulwer (19th), which contained instructions for his

conduct, was not imparted to the French Government; and that when Jarnac

spoke to him, and Palmerston showed him the despatch, it was already

gone. All this apparent reserve and uncommunicativeness excited

suspicions that he was not well disposed and, above all, not going to

tread in the footsteps of Aberdeen. I defended him by saying that he

ought to have considered Palmerston's situation--just come into office,

encumbered with business, occupied with questions of much more urgent

importance in the House of Commons. Nothing new having occurred about

Spain, he contented himself with desiring Bulwer to abide by his

predecessor's instructions, and really had nothing to say on the

subject; that it was his habit to write in a rather familiar, offhand

style, and his despatch to Bulwer, which was not intended to be

published or communicated, was of that description, but that it meant

nothing; and when asked, and the objection urged to the obnoxious

passage, he gave the most positive assurance that no change of policy

was contemplated. Guizot insisted that it did not signify what he meant;

that the question was, what impression it was calculated to convey. Then

he went into the various delays, and the impossibility of getting an

answer from him; all of which served to confirm his suspicions that a

different and hostile policy was already in active operation, that the

note of February 27 gave him a right to act, _le cas ÈchÈant_, and that

in a letter to Jarnac (which he gave me to read) he plainly indicated

his intention by saying that if England adopted _une politique isolÈe_,

he would adopt one also, and he asked me whether I would not have

understood what this meant--and that it meant, what he afterwards did. I

said I did not mean to acquit Palmerston of much negligence and

tardiness; that I thought he ought to have at once come to a

satisfactory understanding with France about the marriages; that he was

greatly to blame in all his delays, but that he did him less than

justice; that Palmerston was not the bitter enemy of France which he

supposed, and that he was reposing all along on the faith of the

engagements which Aberdeen had communicated to him, never thought the

matter pressed, nor had the least idea that they took it so seriously;

that he must remember we did not regard Spanish affairs with the deep

interest and attach to them the same importance they did. He said he was

convinced that Palmerston came into office with a resolution to overturn

French influence all over the world; that he fancied (as many others

did) that Aberdeen had sacrificed the interests or the dignity of

England to the French Government, while he himself had continually been

charged with doing the same thing in France: charges which destroyed

each other. But that this was Palmerston's idea, and that he was

resolved to oppose France everywhere, to display his independence; that

this was especially his object in Spain, where he wanted to raise the

Progressista and depress the Moderado party as the most effectual means

of substituting English for French influence; that the real reason he

supported Don Enrique, and called him 'the only fit husband,' was that

he was the head of the Progressista party, and his being chosen as the

Queen's husband would be a great encouragement and triumph to it; that

this party was the enemy of Christina and of the present government, and

for this reason our choice was obnoxious to them; that except for these

reasons he had no objection to Don Enrique, and long ago had desired

Bresson to get him recalled in a despatch which he showed me; that he

was convinced that Palmerston not only had determined to act in the way

he had stated, but that he thought he could intimidate France.[5]

[Footnote 5: I said that the idea of _intimidating_ France had never

entered his head, that he was _un homme de coeur_ himself, and knew

that France was too great and too powerful to be intimidated by anyone.]

[Sidenote: M. GUIZOT DEFENDS THE SPANISH GOVERNMENT.]

I replied that he was entirely mistaken: that he exaggerated

Palmerston's disposition and mistook his position; that in Melbourne's

time he did what he chose in his own department, but that was not now

the case; that all important affairs were decided by the Government, and

that John Russell was far from having any bitter feeling against France,

and had always entertained sentiments of esteem towards Guizot

personally; that neither he nor anyone else (not even Palmerston) wished

to see him out of office. It was true that they did think there had been

on different occasions and in various places an undue succumbing to

France, but that there was no desire to commence a general struggle

against French interests; that they would certainly see with pleasure

the Liberal party in Spain again lift up its head, and some such

reaction as should promise a Government disposed to act in a

constitutional manner, and put an end to the despotism that now

prevailed. He said that he considered this the best and most

constitutional Government that Spain had ever had; that it was far more

so than Espartero's; that every change had been effected in a legal,

constitutional manner by the Cortes itself; while all former changes,

especially the expulsion of Queen Christina, had been effected by

violence. I said I was amazed to hear him say so, and begged to ask him

how the Cortes itself was constituted, and whether it had not been

packed by stratagem and force, and by the most unscrupulous use of

despotic power--the municipalities having been suppressed and all free

opinion overborne. He only replied that the municipal question was made

the instrument of the Queen's deposition, and that it had been voted by

the Cortes.

It is very difficult to record accurately a conversation in which we

often diverged and then returned to the same topic. I pressed him hard

on his want of openness and confidence, and urged that when the two

countries had been so long on such terms of amity, and the two

Sovereigns also, that before he proceeded to act in so serious and

decisive a manner and which could not fail to offend England, he ought

to have left nothing vague, but have said distinctly and at once what he

intended to do. He ought, if he took the note of February 27 as his

justification, to ascertain that Palmerston was cognisant of that note.

Why did he not as soon as he came into office renew to Palmerston the

notice he had thought it necessary to convey to Aberdeen, and why not

say frankly that he regarded the state of the case to be such that,

acting on the right he had reserved to himself, he should send

instructions to Bresson to conclude the marriages. His answers to this

were very weak. He said that it was not his business to look after

Palmerston's affairs, and that he had a right to conclude, since

Aberdeen had communicated with him, that he had imparted to him this

note; that he showed confidence to those who showed confidence to him,

and that he did not think Palmerston had acted towards him in such a

manner as to require such confidential communication on his part. His

real reason was (though I did not think it necessary to charge him with

it), that if he had given notice to Palmerston, the latter would have

sent off to Madrid and probably counteracted his scheme. He insisted

that his letters to Jarnac, and the conversation he had had with Lord

Cowley (which he repeated to me word for word as Lord Cowley had done),

were warning enough and were sufficient indication of his intentions.

Besides that Bresson's instructions were general, he had had them above

a year with a discretionary power to act upon them whenever he had

reason to believe the Coburg marriage was _imminent_, which case he

contended had arrived. I said if its imminence arose from our despatch,

Bresson had himself created it, inasmuch as he had shown it to the

Spanish Government. He said that was not true, that Bresson had given

him his most positive assurance that though he had spoken of it to

different people he had never shown it to the Spanish Ministers. He

spoke with great energy of the King's feelings and of his own,

especially at the strong language that had been applied to him

personally, and of his having been accused in a formal document as well

as in a letter, of _bad faith_; that it was impossible to transact

business with any confidence and in a useful manner with those who

charged him with bad faith. Such accusations were intolerable. He then

spoke of his letter to John Russell; that he had only intended to call

his attention to the difficulty of going on with Palmerston while he put

such a tone into the discussions; that it was absurd to suppose that he

had ever thought or dreamt of effecting Palmerston's removal from

office. He excused this letter very clumsily, and said he had not

expected any answer to it (being evidently to the last degree nettled at

that which he had received). I admitted that this letter was very

imprudent, that it was very strong, and spoke of Palmerston in terms he

was likely to feel and not easily to forgive; that he should have

recollected what a situation he placed John Russell in, who really was

compelled to answer it as he did, or to quarrel outright with

Palmerston; that if he had not answered it as he did, the indignation

and resentment of Palmerston would have been very great, and he would

probably have resigned; and that he might have found means of conveying

his sentiments in some manner less dangerous and offensive. He insisted

on the clear intention of Palmerston, from the despatch, the delays, and

various circumstances, to depart from the engagement with Aberdeen. I

said that we could prove that Aberdeen himself had laid down precisely

the same rule of conduct on which Palmerston had acted, and expressed

the very same sentiments; that they were recorded in a former despatch

addressed to the Duke de Sotomayor for the information of the Spanish

Government; that this was very different from the letter to Bulwer which

was neither to be shown nor any thing done upon it, but was a reply to

two important questions: the first, whether if the Spaniards chose a

husband for the Queen not a Bourbon prince, such choice would be

displeasing to England; and secondly, if France attempted to coerce

their choice, whether England would support them. His reply was plain

and decisive: viz. that their choice would not be objected to by

England, whatever it might be; and that while it was impossible to

conceive that France ever would attempt coercion, if she did, Spain

would have the 'sympathy' of England and of all Europe. He said he had

no copy of this despatch, and did not well recollect its contents. I

said, 'But you have seen it.' He 'had not had it in his hands, it had

been read to him.' He was evidently much put out by the citation of it.

[Sidenote: EFFECT OF LORD PALMERSTON'S DESPATCH.]

After a great deal more talk he spoke of his intentions. First, however,

he complained of our refusal to join with him in the Cracow affair, and

that we had done so in an offensive manner, giving him to understand

that his breach of the Treaty of Utrecht made it improper to join with

him in enforcing that of Vienna, but that, nevertheless, he was resolved

to observe the greatest moderation and to evince no _rancune_; that he

should lay the papers he thought necessary before the House of Peers,

and make such a statement of the whole case as he was convinced would

prove to demonstration to France, to Europe, and even to many people in

England itself, that he was clear and blameless in the transaction; that

he might deceive himself, but that such was his sincere belief; that he

should, however, do this in language of moderation and with an earnest

desire to avoid furnishing any fresh matter for irritation; that he

should continue his endeavours to act towards England in a friendly

spirit, and he should not be deterred by her past conduct from offering

to communicate and consult with her on all those subjects which it was

desirable they should consider with reference to their mutual or common

interests. He said he had a great deal more to say to me, hoped to see

me again, and that I would dine with him, and so we parted.

_January 10th._--On Friday I called by appointment on Duch‚tel. There is

nothing of much interest to record of my conversation with him. He

talked in the same strain as Guizot, expressed great desire for

reconciliation, confidence in the goodness of their case, said their

majority was stronger and more secure than ever, and any change of

government impossible.

[Sidenote: LORD COWLEY'S VIEW OF THE CASE.]

Yesterday morning I went to Lord Cowley, who showed me his letters to

Palmerston giving him an account of the state of the Spanish question

and of his conversations thereupon with the King and Guizot. These

communications ought certainly to have drawn Palmerston's attention to

the subject, and have induced him to lose no time in coming to some

understanding with the French Government. At the same time the anxiety

of the King to gain time, and his urgent recommendations to Miraflores

to have patience, may have misled Palmerston and made him think there

was no danger. It is clear to me that what they took alarm at was

Miraflores' communication; that they really did believe the Coburg

alliance was _imminent_, and that when it was followed up by

Palmerston's despatch of the 19th their fears were still more increased.

They all along suspected both Palmerston and Bulwer; and they did, in

truth, think that between Christina's impatience, the difficulty of

finding an eligible Bourbon, the probable intrigues of Bulwer, and the

suspected co-operation of Palmerston, unless they settled the matter

themselves _somehow_ it would be settled in the way they most dreaded.

They knew, or at least they thought, that their difficulty would be very

agreeable to Palmerston, and that it was not likely he would help them

out of it. In this state of things I have no doubt that Guizot wrote to

Bresson and told him to settle the affair if he could, and that Bresson

was furnished with fresh instructions on which he did act, and not on

the old discretionary ones on which they now pretend that he acted. Lord

Cowley thinks Christina told Bresson that if he would at once strike a

bargain and give the Duke de Montpensier for the Infanta, Don Francisco

should have the Queen; that he instantly accepted this proposal, sent it

off to Paris by telegraph, where it was confirmed at once. Whether this

was the exact mode or not, or whoever took the initiative, I believe

this is the way it was done; certainly the King seemed anxious to put

the question off. Lord Cowley thinks he expected to be able to bring

back Trapani. Guizot's vehemence (for he spoke much more strongly than

the King) ought to have alarmed Palmerston. The mischief has arisen from

Palmerston being careless and thoughtless, Guizot suspicious and

alarmed.

Yesterday morning at two o'clock I called on Thiers by appointment,

found him in a very pretty apartment full of beautiful drawings, copies

of Italian frescoes, pictures, bronzes, books and _cahiers_ of MS., the

sheets (much corrected and interlined I could see) of his work. These he

told me were his 'seul dÈlassement,' and that politics never interrupted

his literary labour. We then talked about the present state of affairs,

and very amusing he was, sparing nobody and talking with his usual

abundance and openness. He said he had read the notes that had passed

between Palmerston and Guizot; that his own opinion was that Guizot

would break down on the _procÈdÈs_, but that at all events it was a

quarrel _‡ outrance_; that each accused the other of bad faith, and

could only justify himself by fixing that imputation on his antagonist;

that moderation became impossible when such charges were bandied, and he

had read with astonishment the strong things contained in these notes;

that if Guizot had the worst of this encounter he would fall, not

however by the desertion of the majority, not by this Chamber, but

through the King. 'You must not,' he said, 'believe what you hear of the

strength of the Government and of its security; don't believe all Madame

de Lieven tells you; c'est une bavarde, une menteuse, et une sotte; vous

l'avez beaucoup connue, vous avez ÈtÈ son amant, n'est-ce pas?' I

defended myself from the imputation, and assured him that though she had

had lovers when first she came to England I never had had the honour of

being one of them. He then said he would tell me what would happen: the

King _se faisait illusion_ that the Whig Government could not stand; but

when he found out that this was an error _il aurait peur_; and if we

continued to refuse to be reconciled, he would get rid of Guizot. The

present Chamber would not overthrow him, but the King would. 'Savez-vous

ce que c'est que le Roi? Le mot est grossier, mais vous le comprendrez.

Eh bien, c'est un poltron.'[6] I said I was surprised to hear this, for

we thought he was _un homme de coeur_, and had given proofs of his

courage very often. 'Non, non, je vous dis qu'il est poltron, et quand

il se trouvera dÈfinitivement mal avec vous il aura peur; alors il

suscitera des embarras ‡ Guizot; il y a quarante ou cinquante hommes

dans la Chambre, je les connais, qui tourneront contre lui, et de cette

maniËre il tombera, pas par la Chambre, encore moins par vous.' He said

the accusations had been so strong that each Minister was bound to prove

his own case and the _mauvaise foi_ of his adversary, and Guizot would

stand or fall by the result of the explanations. 'Vous pouvez Ítre s˚r

que ce que je vous dis est la vÈritÈ, d'autant plus que ce n'est pas moi

qui lui succÈderai, c'est MolÈ. Cependant je vous parle franchement, et

je vous avoue que je serais enchantÈ de sa chute; d'abord parce que je

le dÈteste, et aprËs, parce que l'alliance anglaise est impossible avec

lui; c'est un traÓtre et un menteur qui s'est conduit indignement envers

moi, mais je ne serai pas ministre.' However, he could afford to wait;

he was forty-eight years old, and his health excellent. As long as the

King was in no danger he would never send for him; as soon as he was he

would send for him. The King could endure nobody who would not consent

to be his tool; he would never take office without being his master, _et

j'en viendrai ‡ bout_; he would rather continue in his independence than

take office on any other terms. He told me he had seen the notes, and

was amazed at the sharpness of their contents. We then went out

together, and walked to the Faubourg St. HonorÈ, talking about his book,

Napoleon, etc.

[Footnote 6: [Louis Philippe was certainly not wanting in physical

courage, but in moral courage he appeared in his later years to be

deficient. M. Thiers was in the habit of using exaggerated language, and

he disliked the King; for M. Thiers' great defect was that he could not

_serve_ anyone. The Revolution of February 1848 proved that there was a

good deal of truth in these predictions. But the want of resolution

which M. Thiers imputed to the King arose solely from his honourable and

consistent aversion to violence and war.]]

[Sidenote: CONVERSATION WITH M. THIERS.]

_At night._--I have been dining with Thiers, and met Odilon Barrot,

Cousin, RÈmusat, Duvergier de Hauranne, Mignet, and several others I

can't remember. They were all prodigiously civil to me, and with Cousin

and Mignet I had a great deal of conversation. Palmerston's note arrived

this morning. It is very clever and well done, but too long, and his

_polÈmique_ about the Treaty of Utrecht in my opinion _dÈplacÈe_ and

mischievous. But he is determined to urge this point, and is

endeavouring to get the Allied Powers to join with him in a protest or

some formal expression of opinion upon it. I don't believe they will

ever do this; but if they did, it would probably produce most serious

consequences. His policy in this is perfectly inconceivable to me.

Normanby read it to Guizot this afternoon, and at the same time offered

him the despatch of the 19th July (to Bulwer), and Aberdeen's to

Sotomayor to publish with the other pieces, _both or neither_, but he

refused them. I had another furious set-to with Madame de Lieven, who is

the most imprudent woman I ever saw; but we always part friends.

Normanby has shown Thiers several papers, and MolÈ _many more_ he tells

me. I have begged him to be cautious.

[Sidenote: FEAR OF THE COBURG MARRIAGE.]

_January 12th._--I called on Guizot yesterday by appointment; found him

more stiff and reserved than the first time, and not apparently in good

sorts. He did not appear to have anything particular to say, but

reverted to the old topics; that he would not go again over the same

arguments; but it was clear that from the beginning Lord Palmerston had

a fixed policy which he had immediately begun to carry out: to raise the

Progressista party in Spain, and destroy the Moderado and French

influence with it; that we fancied ourselves obliged to substitute

English for French influence there as an indispensable security for our

power in the Mediterranean; and we appealed to the Treaty of Utrecht;

that great changes had taken place since that time. It was true France

had acquired Algeria, and through it a certain power in the

Mediterranean; but that we had acquired Gibraltar, Malta, and Corfu,

which we had not been possessed of before, and which were quite

sufficient to secure our power there. He said a great deal more of

Palmerston, for he still insists, and either believes, or at all events

pretends to believe, that Palmerston was bent on the Coburg marriage,

and doing his utmost to bring it about. He really thinks it was sound

policy on his part, and for that reason was pursuing it. I again and

again assured him he was mistaken. 'You forget,' I said, 'that when this

affair began, Palmerston had not been ten days in office, was

overwhelmed with business, and had many other things more pressing to

occupy his attention. He had found an understanding concluded with

Aberdeen, which he accepted. He had no thoughts of doing anything; he

knew of nothing urgent that had occurred, and the truth is, _il n'y

pensait pas_.' 'Comment!' he said, rather angrily, 'il n'y pensait pas?

Est-ce que vous nous prenez pour dupes que vous voulez nous faire croire

cela? 'I said I believed it was so; that this Spanish question which was

of such deep interest to them was of much less interest to us; and

'why,' I said, 'if you considered the matter so urgent, if you knew what

was going on in Spain (which Lord Palmerston did not), and considered

the marriage you so feared to be _imminent_, why did not you go at once

to Palmerston and tell him so?' 'Ce n'Ètait pas ‡ moi,' he replied, 'de

faire l'Èducation de Lord Palmerston.' 'No,' I said; 'mais c'Ètait ‡

vous de faire vos propres affaires, and to communicate frankly with him

when you wanted his assistance.' He would not allow this. I said, since

I had been here and had seen and heard a great many things I did not

know before, I had become convinced that his alarm about the Coburg

marriage was perfectly sincere, that he really did believe it was likely

to take place, and that the real object of the King had been to get the

Spanish Court to wait and not insist on an immediate marriage; that it

was not the despatch of July 19, but the mission of Miraflores and what

he had said to the King which had really alarmed them. He said this was

not exact; it was not that which had given them the alarm, but from

various circumstances they were convinced that the Coburg marriage would

have been settled offhand if they had not taken decisive steps to

prevent it; that this marriage it was impossible for France to tolerate.

There was already a Coburg in England, another in Portugal, and to have

had a third at Madrid would have been to make Spain a part of Portugal,

and to have exhibited to all the world the triumph of English over

French influence; that this combination which we wanted to bring about,

they were bound to defeat, and then again assuming that _our Court_ was

bent on it, he said: 'Le fait est que vous Ítes meilleurs courtisans que

nous.' I told him that I was assured the Court had never sought this

alliance, and that Prince Albert had long ago written to his cousin to

say that he must not think of it, as it was impossible.

I then asked him why Christina had been so impatient to conclude a

marriage of some sort, and why she could not wait as the King had

advised. He said, for reasons partly personal and partly political; that

Queen Christina was a very extraordinary woman--'trËs habile, avec un

esprit trËs impartial'--that she had no prejudices, and he had heard her

talk of her greatest enemies, of Espartero even, without rancour and

with candour; that she had great courage, patience and perseverance, and

never quitted a purpose she had once conceived; that royalty was irksome

to her, and government and political power she did not care about except

so far as they were instrumental to the real objects of her life, which

were to live easily, enjoy herself, and amass money for her children,

who were numerous, and whom she was very anxious to enrich; that she was

aware of the precarious nature of her influence, and felt the necessity

of connecting herself with, and obtaining the support of, one of the

great Powers--England or France--the latter by preference, but the

former if not the latter; that she had, therefore, always wanted the

King to give her his son for the Queen, and when he refused this, she

had got angry and turned to the Coburg alliance and the English

connexion; that besides, the young Queen was impatient to be married,

and that if they had not found her a husband, she would infallibly have

taken a lover. 'Vous ne savez pas ce que c'est que ces princesses

Espagnoles et Siciliennes; elles ont le diable au corps, et on a

toujours dit que si nous ne nous h‚tions pas, l'hÈritier viendrait avant

le mari.' For these reasons she was impatient to conclude, and she

infallibly would have concluded the marriage with the Prince of Coburg

if we had persisted in refusing the Duke de Montpensier, and had not

effected some other arrangement. She trusted that the King, her uncle,

would have accepted _the fait accompli_, and at all events that she

should have been secure of English support.

[Sidenote: THE FRENCH PAPERS.]

I then said that after all what was now most important was to look to

the future, that our quarrel must be fought out, but that a short time

would bring those discussions to an end. What was to happen then? I

believed and hoped that he was not likely to be _renversÈ_ here, and I

was satisfied Lord Palmerston would not be in England, and how were the

affairs of the two Governments to be conducted between them? If Spain,

which had once been a military _champ de bataille_, was henceforward to

be a political _champ de bataille_ between the two countries, I did not

see how any _entente_ was possible. Must this last for ever? or was it

impossible that the two Governments should unite in bringing about a

better state of things in Spain, and giving to her in reality something

of the freedom and independence which she possessed in name? He seemed

by no means disposed to enter on this subject, and as I thought I

observed in his manner some symptoms of a desire that our conversation

should terminate, I rose and took leave of him. He was very civil, but

rather formal and ceremonious on my going away.

_Paris, January 13th._--This morning we read in the newspapers the

_piËces remises_ by Guizot to the Chamber of Peers, and among them, to

our great surprise, an extract of Palmerston's despatch to Bulwer of

July 19, Guizot having refused Palmerston's offer to place it (with

Aberdeen's to Sotomayor) at his disposal. Normanby immediately wrote him

a very strong note complaining of this publication after what had passed

between them. In the afternoon I saw Madame de Lieven, who made very

light of it, and treated it as a frivolous complaint. Bacourt, who was

there, endeavoured to find excuses for Guizot, but was obliged to

confess that he had no right to use this without our permission. When I

got home I found Guizot's reply had come. He said he had given nothing

more than he had quoted in one of his notes, and had done no more than

produce the English version of what he had quoted in French, and he

asserted his right to do this. He finished, however, by saying that if

Normanby would send him the two despatches, he would add them to the

other documents. Normanby wrote back word that he regretted he should

have produced this extract in a manner calculated to give a false

impression of the tenor of the despatch, sent him the documents, and

hoped, as he was going to publish more, he would produce Palmerston's

last note. There has been a schism here in the Opposition; Billault,

Dufaure, and thirty or forty deputies have separated from Thiers, and

are preparing to join MolÈ if Guizot falls. It seems clear that neither

party will take our side on the marriage question, and that the

Government will not be attacked at all in the Peers, and very probably

very feebly in the Deputies.

_January 16th._--For the last two days I have been sightseeing, HÙtel

Cluny, Churches, Notre-Dame, Saint-Germain l'Auxerrois, the Gallery of

the Louvre, and all day yesterday was at Versailles. I had not seen it

for above thirty years, and was struck with the vast dimensions and the

ugliness of the building; it is, however, interesting on the whole.

I dined with Guizot on Friday; had very little talk on politics. He came

into one of the rooms where Bacourt and I were talking and joined us. I

then said that though I had come here without any mission I had come not

without the hope of being able to take back with me something which

promised a renewal of good understanding. Guizot said he was ready to be

on good terms with us, but he could _do_ nothing of any sort or kind,

and this he repeated in a very peremptory tone. He was probably (though

very civil to me) not in the best of humours in consequence of the

article which had appeared that morning in the 'Constitutionnel'

(Thiers's paper), with a circumstantial and quite accurate account of

what has recently passed between Guizot and Normanby about the

despatches. This, which could only come from the Embassy, has shocked I

suppose everybody, and made Guizot and his friends indignant. Normanby

was himself very much annoyed when he read the article, and at once

perceived the bad effect it would have. He said he did not know how it

got there, but he suspects Thiers who probably sent it or caused it to

be sent; however, both William Hervey and Craven are so hot and so

unreserved that the Opposition paper might very easily get over it.

Normanby has told Thiers and MolÈ everything, and Thiers came twice in

three days to the Embassy. All this is well known, and Normanby passes

for an ambassador in constant and confidential communication with the

enemies and rivals of the Ministers. In spite of all this, within the

last two days I have found a less excited tone. We had, however, our own

complaint to make, which probably kept them more quiet about the

'Constitutionnel.' When all the papers came out it appeared that Guizot

had published another fragment that he had no right to do of one of

Palmerston's despatches, about 'the only fit husband.' This had been

read to him, but no copy given to him, and he took the words down with

his pencil at the time. These words he published in a formal official

shape. His excuse is the same, that the words had been quoted in one of

his notes.

[Sidenote: AT THE TUILERIES.]

_January 19th._--Went last night to the Tuileries; the King was very

civil, but did not talk to me on any subject. We were there only twenty

minutes. I saw all the Princesses, the Duchesse de Montpensier decidedly

the best; she is a pretty, plump little thing, and looks three or four

years older than she is. The Duchesse d'OrlÈans is still in mourning.

The King looks very well, and is grossly caricatured by 'Punch;' he is a

very good-looking old gentleman, and seems to have many years of life in

him still.

Normanby saw Guizot on Sunday about the affairs of the Plate, when he

took the opportunity to speak to him about his second extract (from the

despatch which was not communicated to him); he made the same sort of

excuse as for the other, and reminded him that he had taken the words

down in pencil.

Went last night to a ball at the Duchesse de Galiera's, where I met

Francis Baring,[7] who told me a good deal about French politics. He

says Thiers is quite out of the question, and that his own errors and

the schism in his party hare demolished him. Billault and Dufaure are

making a second opposition. He thinks Guizot has more to fear from the

effects of the very grave financial embarrassment which exists, and that

if he got the country into any political difficulty in the midst of it

he might be sacrificed, but MolÈ is a man without courage; the majority

is the King's majority on the whole, but still Guizot has many followers

and is not without power. It would not, therefore, be quite so simple

and easy to dismiss Guizot unless some good opportunity presented

itself. Everybody here will support the Government in its present

contest with us. He said he should not dare to speak a contrary language

to his wife, who would tear both his eyes out if he did. He thinks we

were right to decline joint operation in the affair of Cracow, but that

it is an enormous blunder to make so much of the Treaty of Utrecht; that

it would have been wise to have made a protest, the more vague and

general the better, but reserving to ourselves to take any course we

thought fit in respect to Spanish marriages and successions, keeping all

treaties and laws bearing on the subject in reserve, to be used or not

according to our discretion. This is what I have always thought: the

Treaty of Utrecht, the renunciations, the laws of Spain, and the other

treaties between Spain and Austria furnish materials for a very good

argument such as an astute counsel might turn to excellent account; but

Palmerston has made the Treaty so prominent, and has been so decisive

and peremptory, that he has got into a position where he can neither

advance without danger nor recede without discredit. I saw the other day

his protest at Madrid against the marriage in which he declared that

England would _never_ acknowledge the issue of the Duchesse de

Montpensier as heirs to the crown of Spain.

[Footnote 7: [Mr. Francis Baring had married Clara, the daughter of

Maret, Duc de Bassano, and was well versed in French affairs.]]

[Sidenote: THE DUC DE BROGLIE'S SPEECH.]

_January 21st._--Was at Madame de Lieven's on Tuesday afternoon when

Guizot came in from the Chamber. He said the Duc de Broglie had spoken

for an hour and a half _avec un grand succËs_. The next morning I read

this successful speech, which was as bad as it well could be, and

calculated to make matters worse with us. The Queen's Speech arrived

yesterday, and was thought very moderate, as it is, but very ill

written. In consequence of the passage about Cracow none of the

Ambassadors of the three Courts would appear at the _sÈance royale_.

Yesterday Guizot spoke for two hours, and certainly very adroitly in

reference to his position and his object; being quite sure of whatever

he said being accepted as all-sufficient by the Chamber, he could afford

to glide over the difficult points and not attempt to grapple with them,

and he carefully abstained from saying anything irritating or offensive

to us, sparing even Palmerston as much as he could. I went to Madame de

Lieven to-day, when she asked me what I thought of the debate. I said,

'If you want my candid opinion, I will give it you. Le discours du Duc

de Broglie a ÈtÈ mauvais; il est indigne de lui et de la rÈputation

qu'il s'est acquise; il n'est ni juste, ni vrai, ni sage. S'il avait eu

le dÈsir d'envenimer l'affaire, ce que je ne crois pas, il n'aurait pas

pu parler autrement.' I then said that the speech of M. Guizot was of a

very different character, that I did not attach much value to his

argument, and that he had eluded all the real difficulties of the

question, but that he had contrived to make a defence which was quite

sufficient for his purpose here (though if it had been addressed to an

English Parliament or court of justice it might have been easily

answered), and to do so with a perfect reserve and moderation, and

without allowing one word to escape him of a violent or offensive

character; that it was very clever, very adroit, admirably adapted to

the occasion, and I thought would produce a salutary effect _chez nous_.

She was much pleased, and expressed her satisfaction that I thought

this; when I said she must not forget that I said so always with a

reserve as to the argument, and that I only meant to speak of the tone;

that as to the value of the speech in reference to the question at

issue, I agreed entirely with the 'Constitutionnel.' She laughed at

this, affected to treat it with derision, and said that all the world

knew the articles in that paper came from the Embassy, which I treated

with derision in my turn. Guizot then came in, but only stayed a moment;

she told him that I admired his speech, but would tell him more of what

I had said when he came to her in the evening. I then told her of the

absence of the Ambassadors at the House of Lords, which struck her

prodigiously, and she would hardly believe it. We afterwards talked of

the future and how matters could be got right, and we both agreed that

where 'la confiance avait ÈtÈ ÈbranlÈe' entirely, it was very difficult

to restore it. I said the only way I knew was to act with mutual truth

and good faith, to have no _dessous des cartes_ on either side, and then

by degrees each party would discover that the other really was doing so,

and by degrees confidence might revive. But the notion of Palmerston's

hatred of Guizot is so strong, of his independent power in the

Government and his disposition to use it, that it is very difficult to

bring them into anything like a quiet and confiding state of mind. I

told her it was an error to suppose Palmerston was so powerful and that

he could drag his colleagues with him unreasonably, and that if they

found him wantonly and unfairly endangering the peace of the two

countries, they would force him to desist or to go. Guizot's speech

seems to have been received very favourably by most people for one

reason or another, and it certainly was very able and judicious.

I dined to-day with Madame Graham (a dull party), and went afterwards to

Mrs. Austin's, where I met M. de Tocqueville, Mignet, Alfred de Vigny,

M. de Circourt, Mr. Wheaton, and several others whose names I cannot

recollect. There was also a Mr. Schwabe, who has been travelling all

over Spain with Cobden, and has a great deal to say about the country

and the people. He says there is a sprinkling of Free Trade tendencies,

but not at Barcelona. They were well received everywhere, and by nobody

better than by the French consuls (especially Lesseps at Barcelona),

whom they found advocates of Free Trade. The country appeared miserably

desolate and depopulated, but they were told that the improvement within

the last ten or twelve years was prodigious. The Infanta's marriage was

unpopular, French influence on the wane, and he is convinced that if the

country is only left alone, the feeling of Spanish independence will be

enough to provide an opposition to French influence.

[Sidenote: THE DEBATE IN ENGLAND.]

_January 24th._--On Friday the newspapers brought the English debate on

the Address, which has made a great sensation here. The speeches,

especially Lord Lansdowne's, all so moderate and expressive of an

earnest desire for a reconciliation with France. Everybody, those who

hoped and those who feared, were astonished; Guizot delighted, but

taking it coolly. We think that Lansdowne's tone was too low, that he

was too _empressÈ_, and that it will be misunderstood at Paris. Then the

'Times' has been writing articles abusing Palmerston and giving out that

public opinion is all against him, and inclines to Guizot, doing all the

mischief it can. These articles were received with a great deal of

chuckling by Guizot and his people, and the low tone taken by Government

and others corroborated their impressions. John Russell spoke very

properly, very conciliatorily, but with more of firmness. There was a

ball here on Friday night, where I had some conversation with MolÈ,

Cousin, Duvergier, and Francis Baring. All are struck with our

discussion. MolÈ, who wishes for reconciliation and rejoices at the

spirit that has been evinced, told me he thought Broglie's speech very

bad, and Guizot's very good and discreet, but that the latter was

already triumphing. 'Avez-vous vu,' he asked him, 'les journaux anglais?

Eh bien, vous voyez qu'on recule.' Cousin said that it was impossible

for them to say anything for us in the Chamber when we did not seem

disposed to say anything for ourselves. Duvergier said the same thing,

and he with Thiers and his people are excessively disgusted and

disappointed at the ground appearing to be taken from under their feet.

M. de Beaumont said to me last night, 'Il paraÓt que vous avez mis bas

les armes.' They now write from England that it is probable there will

be no discussion in either House, a conclusion so impotent and

discreditable that I hope it will not end thus. Palmerston can never

permit this; both he and the Embassy and Thiers will cut a ridiculous

figure enough.

With great imprudence and impropriety, in my opinion, Normanby, with

Palmerston's concurrence, has been in confidential communication with

Thiers for the purpose of enabling the latter to attack the Government

in the Chamber, it being of course expected and understood that we were

to make a strong case against Guizot at home. All the world here knows

of this connexion and blames it. Guizot is of course indignant at it,

and it renders all communication between him and Normanby as cold and

distant as possible. Thiers is as sulky as a bear; he knows that his

alliance with the Embassy has done him no good, and now it seems

unlikely to enable him to do anybody else any harm. It is clear to me

that we are in great danger of cutting a contemptible figure and

something more, for nothing can be so impolitic as to create a belief

here that the people of England are resolved to submit to anything

rather than go to war, and that the French Government may follow their

own devices without hindrance, for if the Minister for Foreign Affairs

(especially Palmerston) remonstrates and complains he will probably not

be supported at home. The fact is, Palmerston's mismanagement of his

case and his most unwise persistence in his argument about the Treaty of

Utrecht have ruined him and given _gain de cause_ to Guizot. I must say

that I begin to think no reliance is to be placed on him, and that he

really is a very bad and dangerous Minister. It appears that before the

Session opened Lansdowne wrote to Palmerston and desired to know what he

meant to do, what to insist on, and, in short, how they stood. He wrote

back word that he had no thoughts of insisting on any renunciations, as

it was clearly impossible to obtain them, and that he was ready to go on

with France amicably and frankly on all matters of common interest,

though of course there could not be the same confidence as heretofore.

On this Lansdowne made his speech. But yesterday morning in the midst of

all these honeyed words there arrives a letter from Palmerston to

Normanby desiring him to go and complain formally of the affair of the

extracts, and particularly that what he did publish was not textually

correct, and that Guizot's _excuses_ were not satisfactory. Normanby

never told me of this till the evening when he had done it. He went to

him and read the letter, and Guizot was very angry and said _excuses_

was not a proper word between gentlemen, and that it was difficult to

carry on communications when such expressions were used. Normanby said

he could only answer for the English word in which sense he ought to

have understood it.

[Sidenote: M. DE TOCQUEVILLE.]

_Evening._--I saw the despatch this morning; it was short enough, but it

would have been better not to have read it to Guizot. This evening,

however, Normanby met him at Madame de Lieven's, when he told him he

thought it not worth while to write to Palmerston what had passed

between them yesterday, as he had misunderstood the meaning of the

_English_ word. Guizot said as that was the case he had nothing to say,

and thought too it would be as well to say nothing to Palmerston about

it. So this matter is in a manner blown over, but the same _animus_ will

probably generate fresh things of the same kind.

This morning I called on Tocqueville and sat some time with him and his

wife, an Englishwoman. He looks as clever as he is, and is full of

vivacity, and at the same time of simplicity, in his conversation. He

gave me an account of the state of parties in France substantially the

same as I had heard before; the schism of Billault and Dufaure, to whose

section he belongs; they could not go on any longer with Thiers, who, he

says, does not command above twenty or thirty votes, and is out of the

question. He had formerly belonged rather to Odilon Barrot than to

Thiers; said the marriage question was most decidedly popular in France,

because considered as having given us a check which had paid off old

scores, and that the being now _quits_ had rendered a future good

understanding more easy; and never did he remember so general a

disposition to be on friendly terms with us, and to act in concert with

us; he thinks the King could turn out Guizot and make another

Government, but that he is not likely to do it.

I went last night to a ball at the HÙtel de Ville, where amongst many

fine people were all the _bourgeoisie_. It was a magnificent ball and

very well worth seeing, many of the women very good-looking and all well

dressed. There must have been two thousand people there, and the house

extraordinarily fine. From thence to a ball at Madame Pozzo di Borgo's,

the most beautiful house I ever saw, fitted up with the greatest luxury,

and _recherchÈ_ and in excellent taste. There were to be seen all the

exquisitely fine people, the cream of Parisian society, all the Faubourg

St. Germain, the adherents of the old and _frondeurs_ of the new dynasty

who keep aloof from the Court, and live in political obedience to, but

in social defiance of, the ruling powers. They are knit together by a

sort of compact of disloyalty to the _de facto_ sovereign, and if any

one of them suffers himself or herself to be attracted to Court the

offender immediately loses caste, is treated with the utmost scorn and

indignation, and if a man very probably does not escape without some

personal quarrel and is sure to be deserted by his friends.

[Sidenote: M. GUIZOT AND LORD NORMANBY.]

_January 26th._--Yesterday morning the 'Morning Chronicle' came with a

bitter and violent article against Guizot's speech in the Chamber; the

courier at the same time brought copies of our printed papers, and I

took one to Madame de Lieven. There I found Guizot furious at this

article, which he said he was sure had been dictated by Palmerston

himself. I said I was as much shocked at it as he was, and that Normanby

regretted it very much, but that I was persuaded Palmerston had had no

hand in it, and no knowledge of it; that he had written to Lord

Lansdowne the day after his speech saying he entirely approved of it and

agreed in all he said, and it was impossible he should have at the same

time written such a letter and sanctioned such an article, but that I

was sorry he had not taken means to prevent such diatribes, and inspired

the 'Chronicle' with a better spirit. It was preaching to the winds. His

dislike of Palmerston is so great, and his conviction of the reciprocity

of the sentiment so rooted, that he will not allow himself to doubt. I

left them because I was engaged, and promised to return in the

afternoon to her. When I did return I found the perusal of the papers

had made a great impression on her. She said there were many curious

things she did not know before. I said 'Certainly, so I told you,' and I

then pointed out to her certain letters and asked her if they did not

prove to demonstration, first, that the proposal of a Coburg came

entirely from Madrid and was the desire of the Spanish Court; secondly,

that we had constantly refused to lend ourselves to it; and thirdly,

that if we had answered the appeal to us according to the disposition

they always had imputed to us, the marriage might have been made. She

was obliged to own that it was so, but then again returned to the old

question 'Why, then, did you name him?' I said once more for the

fiftieth time that it never had entered into the head of Palmerston or

of anybody else that _the mention of his name_ would have raised such a

notion or suspicion in them or in anybody, and that it was wonderful

they would not see that if he had had the intention and that this letter

contained the expression of it, the last thing he would have done would

have been to show it to them. She then talked again about the

'Chronicle' and the difficulty of going on, of the unsatisfactory

relations between the Foreign Office and the Embassy, and of the great

difficulty of ever restoring them to such a condition as they ought to

be in for any useful purpose. 'How,' she asked, 'could M. Guizot open

his mind to Normanby, or talk confidentially to him, when he knows he is

intimately connected with the Opposition, and that what he says may be

repeated the next moment to Thiers and appear in the "Constitutionnel"

on the following morning?' This is the real embarrassment, and it is not

easy to see how it is to be got over. Guizot and Normanby are on civil

terms, and that is all. When they meet on business they discuss the

particular matter in hand, and never anything more; to William Hervey

Guizot does not speak at all; when they meet at Madame de Lievens,

Guizot appears not to see him. She says that I am the only Englishman to

whom he can talk openly, and consequently they are very sorry for my

departure.

After I left her in the morning I drove all over Paris: to the

University to see Cousin, who lives up a staircase just like a Bencher

or a Collegian. He was not at home, nor anybody there to answer the

bell, so I stuffed my card through a crevice in the door. He is a Peer.

Then to Prince Czartoryski's, who lives in a great old house in the Isle

St. Louis, close to the Pont d'Austerlitz. The establishment is curious

and interesting. The Princess told me she wanted a house which was

spacious and cheap, and not therefore in the fashionable and dear part

of the town. They were fortunate enough to find this, which exactly

suits them. It was the hotel of the Duc de Sully, and there was formerly

a subterraneous passage with a communication to the Arsenal. It

afterwards fell into the hands of Lambert, a great financier, and is

still called the HÙtel Lambert. Madame du Ch‚telet had it, and they show

the apartment which Voltaire occupied for many years. At the Revolution

it became a shop or _magasin_, I forget of what, but no change was made

in the building. The Czartoryskis found it all _dÈlabrÈ_ and dirty,

bought it very cheap, and spent twice as much as the purchase-money in

restorations. It is a great fine house, handsome staircase and gallery,

very vast, with court and garden, and a delightful airy prospect towards

the river and the Jardin des Plantes. The thick coat of dirt which was

cleared away had preserved the original painting and gilding, which have

come out, not indeed bright and fresh, but still very handsome, and they

have furnished it in a corresponding style. It is not, however, for the

purpose of being well lodged that they have thus provided themselves,

but to perform a great work of beneficence and charity. The Princess has

converted the whole of the upper stories into a great school for the

daughters of distressed Polish officers and gentlemen, where they are

lodged, fed, clothed, and educated, and what is left of their fortune

they spend in this manner. She took me all over the apartments; they are

like those in a very well-regulated pauper school, clean to an extreme

nicety, but modest and economical. The girls crowded about her to kiss

her hand. There they are prepared to become governesses; the Princess's

daughter is their 'Professeur d'Anglais,' she told me. It is a very

striking sight and well worth support. I went from thence to the Place

Royale; then to where the Bastille formerly stood, and down the whole

length of the Boulevards, which is the way to see this curious town.

[Sidenote: FALL OF THE SPANISH GOVERNMENT.]

_Wednesday._--Yesterday morning news came that the Spanish Ministry was

out; a majority in the Cortes on the question of the Presidency,

composed of Progressistas and discontented Moderados, turned them out.

The movement is anti-French and said to be brought about by a coalition

of the two brothers against the Queen-mother. Guizot is evidently

disconcerted by it; Madame de Lieven affects a supreme indifference; she

told me that Sotomayor was making a Government, a _Moderado_ Government,

that he had proposed to Mon to remain. Mon would not without Pidal (his

brother-in-law), and the others were willing to have Mon, but would not

have Pidal, because the two would make the Cabinet too French. They now

acknowledge that 'sans contestation vous n'avez jamais voulu ni rien

fait pour le Cobourg.' I asked her whether this was Guizot's opinion,

and she said 'parfaitement.' This is incomparably cool. After having had

the most reiterated assurances _before the fact_, which they utterly

disregarded, and did not choose to believe, now that the fact is

accomplished, and it suits their purpose to make it up, they acknowledge

that they were in error, and acted on a mistaken notion.

I went last night to Madame de Circourt, who has a brilliant salon, but

I knew none of the people; then to Madame de Girardin, where were people

of a totally different description.

_Thursday._--I prevented Normanby from going to Thiers' salon the night

before last, and yesterday morning I gave him to understand as

delicately as I could that all his communications with him and others in

opposition to the Government were noted, reported, and much resented. He

is, however, still impressed with the notion that Guizot may be got out,

and that his connexion with his opponents may conduce to that object,

in my opinion a dangerous error.

Kisseleff gave me an account of what had passed between him and Guizot

about the despatch which he read in the Chamber. Kisseleff said it was

very irregular and improper, but he did not think it had done any harm.

Kisseleff received it the morning of the debate in the Peers, and took

it to Guizot, telling him it might be of use to him to know the

contents. Kisseleff left it with him to read at his ease, and begged him

to return it directly, giving him no authority to produce it. Guizot

read it _in extenso_. He said afterwards that he believed it was the

best thing he could do for France and Russia too. Strange that a man so

formal should be so loose in his transaction of business.

_Friday._--I saw Guizot yesterday, my last day; he is very sorry I am

going, being the only Englishman he could speak to; he does not see how

he can go on with Normanby in his notorious relations _avec tous ses

ennemis_; then as to the press, the 'Morning Chronicle;' Palmerston's

connexion with it is so notorious that one might as well try and

persuade him day was night as that Palmerston was not concerned in the

'Morning Chronicle.' I told him frankly that I regretted both the

appearance and the existence of intimacy between the Embassy and the

Opposition, that it was exaggerated, but that I could not be surprised

at its producing an effect on him. I did not think it worth while to go

again into the case or to triumph over the effect produced by our blue

book; I only said 'that he now admitted himself that he had been wrong

about Palmerston before, and that this might inspire him with more

confidence for the future;' but he said, 'No, he did not admit it; that

Palmerston had come into office with the resolution of attacking him

anywhere; that the Marriage question in Spain was merely subsidiary to

that object, and he had only put forward Don Enrique in order to set up

the Progressista party against him and French influence.' He said the

greatest danger proceeded from _les agents subalternes_; that he had

given a proof of his resolution to act justly by at once recalling the

French Consul at the Mauritius, for which he was well aware he should

be attacked here, but that it was right, and he had therefore done it.

He said he would communicate with me, but he thinks the disposition of

the other Ministers of little consequence so long as Palmerston's are

what they are. All our conversation ran on this; his on the difficulty

of going on after all that had passed, mine on the necessity of trying.

I said what I could for Normanby, and assured him he would find him

personally easy to deal with. I then went to Madame de Lieven, who

followed in the same strain, and said what is true enough, that

Normanby, once having let himself drop into Thiers' hands, will find it

difficult to get out again. This has always struck me. I have said what

I could to Normanby, but I came too late for that. I am certain they are

very uneasy at the effect produced both in England (even in the midst of

its apathy) and here by the publication of our papers. Here it is

unquestionably great, although they have not yet been distributed fully.

I met Cousin last night, who was vehement on the subject, and told me,

if he had been aware of their contents, nothing should have prevented

his replying to the Duke de Broglie. Tocqueville told me that they had

produced a very great effect; that men like himself who approved of what

had been done were inexpressibly shocked at the way in which it had been

done, and at the revelation of so much that was false and dishonourable

in the conduct of the French Government.

[Sidenote: THE EMBASSY AND THE OPPOSITION.]

_Saturday._--Just setting off to London and not sorry to leave Paris,

where I am, after all, a fish out of water. I have been most kindly and

hospitably entertained, interested, and amused, but the excitement of

the particular question once over, I feel that I have no business here,

that I am not fit for the society, and should never take root in it; the

exertion required, the stretch and the continual alacrity of attention,

would be intolerable. I have fallen in here with Scrope Davies, a social

refugee, whom I have not seen these twenty-five years, almost the last

remnant of a circle of clever men of the world, and once the intimate

friend of B.

Yesterday I went about taking leave and went to both the clubs: with

Mrs. Austin to M. de Triqueti's studio, and then of course to Madame de

Lieven. At the clubs I learnt the confirmation of what I had been led to

believe the day before, the extraordinary impression made here by the

publication of our blue book. It quite surprised me, not because I do

not think it very strong; but having been myself long ago convinced and

familiar with most of the details, I did not know that people here were

so little prepared for what they had seen. There can be no doubt of the

reality and vivacity of the impression. Francis Baring told me that men

who had before told him they thought Guizot had the advantage, now came

to tell him how entirely their opinions were changed; in short, if it be

any advantage, it has done our case infinite good and prodigiously

disconcerted the Government. I found Madame de Lieven very low and full

of resentment, especially for the publication of Normanby's conversation

with Guizot, which she said must make their personal relations still

more difficult and unpleasant. It is, however, this document which has

produced the strongest effect of all. I told her all I had heard, and

that Guizot must make up his mind to be bitterly attacked in the Chamber

by Lamartine, Billault, and Thiers. She said that she had no doubt of

his coming triumphantly out of the fight.

[Sidenote: BITTERNESS OF M. THIERS.]

Last night there was a party at the Embassy, at which Thiers and

Duvergier were present. Thiers had been with Normanby in the morning. He

made an attack on me for believing all Madame de Lieven told me; said I

was 'une Èponge trempÈe dans le liquide de Madame de Lieven,' and tried

his best to persuade me that Guizot was weak, his majority not worth a

rush, and that the King could and would get rid of him whenever he found

himself in any sort of danger. 'Tell Lord Palmerston,' he said, 'when he

speaks, to say "beaucoup de bien de la France, et beaucoup de mal de

Monsieur Guizot."' I said I should give him one-half the advice and not

the other, and that Palmerston's wisest course would be to hold moderate

language, tell his story, and leave everybody to draw the inferences. I

have no doubt he will make a very powerful speech and present an

admirable _rÈsumÈ_ of the whole question. But this new vigour infused

into the Opposition, which will bring on an acrimonious debate, though

it may cover Guizot with mud, will not shake him from his seat. I told

Thiers he was quite mistaken in supposing that I took my opinions from

Madame de Lieven or believed one half she told me, but nevertheless I

could not believe that the King would part with Guizot if he could

possibly help it, for he would look in vain for so supple an instrument,

and one so well able to defend him and his measures in the Chambers.

However, Thiers thinks of nothing but mischief, of gratifying his own

personal passions and resentments. He has evidently persuaded Normanby,

and I have no doubt Normanby tries to persuade Palmerston of the same.

The cool people here meanwhile tell me that Guizot will not be turned

out, and I am inclined to believe it. I leave the Embassy in certainly a

very painful and unbecoming condition. Normanby seems not to care who

sees his intimacy with Thiers, and he has none whatever with Guizot.

They do not and cannot converse on anything but the merest matters of

business, and their relations get worse, and seem likely to do so; the

obstacles to an understanding sufficiently frank to be useful appear

almost insurmountable. Thiers, having got Normanby into his clutches,

will not easily let him go again, and the resentment of Guizot will

hardly be appeased, nor do I see any chance of their ever being on

really good terms. So ends my _mission_, and it only now remains for me

to give the truest account I can of the state of affairs here to those

whom it most concerns to know it; but then it will be very difficult for

them to adopt any decisive and satisfactory course.

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