THE SOCIAL SCIENCE ASSOCIATION ON THE LABOUR QUESTION

There would be something touching in the way in which people

discuss the question of labour and wages, and in the desperate

efforts made by Mr. Gladstone and other persons of high position to

make love to the workmen, if there was not almost always a touch

of absurdity in such proceedings. Mr. Gladstone, in particular,

never approaches such subjects without an elaborate patting and

stroking of the working man, which is intelligible only upon the

assumption that primâ facie the labourer and the gentleman are

natural enemies, and that they must be expected to regard each

other as such, unless the higher class approaches the lower with

the most elaborate assurances of goodwill and kindness. Such

language as the following appears to us very ill-judged. After

condemning in strong terms the crimes committed by some trade

unions, Mr. Gladstone went on to say:--"Some things the working

men required at their hands. In the first place, it was required

that they should be approached in a friendly spirit, that they

should feel that they were able to place confidence in their

good intentions, that they should be assured that they were not

approached in the spirit of class, but in the spirit of men who

were attached to the truth," etc., etc. What can be the use of this

sort of preaching? Does any human being suppose that any kind of

men whatsoever, whether working men or idle men, are indifferent to

being approached in an unfriendly spirit; or are disposed to deal

with people whom they believe to entertain bad intentions towards

them, or to be utterly indifferent to their interests, or to be

actuated by interests opposed to their own? Such protestations

always appear to us either prosy, patronizing, or insincere. No

one suspects Mr. Gladstone of insincerity, but at times he is

as prosy as a man must be, who, being already fully occupied

with politics, will never miss an opportunity of doing a little

philanthrophy and promoting peace and goodwill between different

classes of the community. Blessed no doubt are the peacemakers,

but at times they are bores.

After Mr. Gladstone's little sermon the meeting proceeded to

discuss a variety of resolutions about strikes, some of which seem

very unimportant. One piece of vigorous good sense enlivened the

discussion, and appears to us to sum up pretty nearly all that

can be said upon the whole subject of strikes. It was uttered

by Mr. Applegarth, who observed that "no sentiment ought to be

brought into the subject. The employers were like the employed in

trying to get as much as possible for as little as they could" Add

to this the obvious qualification that even in driving a bargain

it is possible to insist too strongly upon your own interest,

and that it never can be in the interest either of masters or of

men that the profits of any given trade to the capitalist should

be permanently depressed much below the average profits of other

trades; and nearly all that can be said upon the subject will

have been said. If, instead of meeting together and kissing each

other in public, masters and men would treat each other simply as

civilized and rational beings who have to drive a bargain, and who

have a common interest in producing the maximum of profit, though

their interests in dividing it when it is produced are conflicting,

they would get on much better together. People can buy and sell

all sorts of other things without either quarrelling or crying

over the transaction, and if they could only see it, there is no

reason why they should not deal in labour just as coolly.

The most remarkable feature of the evening was the attack made by

Mr. Ruskin on this view of the subject. Replying to Mr. Dering,

who had said that whenever it was possible "men would seek

their own interests even at the expense of other classes," he

observed [19] that many students of political economy "looked

upon man as a predatory animal, while man on the contrary was an

affectionate animal, and until the mutual interest of classes

was based upon affection, difficulties must continue between

those classes." There are, as it appears to us, several weak

points in this statement. One obvious one is that most animals

are both predatory and affectionate. Wolves will play together,

herd together, hunt together, kill sheep together; and yet,

if one wolf is wounded, the rest will eat him up. Animals,

too, which as between each other are highly affectionate, are

predatory to the last degree as against creatures of a different

species or creatures of their own species who have got something

which they want. Hence, if men are actuated to some extent

at some times, and towards some persons, by their affections,

and to a different extent at other times towards the same or

other persons by their predatory instincts, they would resemble

other animals. Mr. Ruskin's opposition between the predatory and

affectionate animal is thus merely imaginary. Apart from this,

the description of man as "an affectionate animal" appears to us

not merely incomplete but misleading. Of course the affections

are a most important branch of human nature, but they are by no

means the whole of it. A very large department of human nature

is primarily self-regarding. A man eats and drinks because he is

hungry or thirsty, and he buys and sells because he wants to get

gain. These are and always will be his leading motives, but they

are no doubt to a certain extent counteracted in civilized life

by motives of a different kind. No man is altogether destitute

of regard for the interests and wishes of his neighbours, and

almost every one will sacrifice something more or less for the

gratification of others. Still, self-interest of the most direct

unmistakable kind is the great leading active principle in many

departments of life, and in particular in the trading department:

to deny this is to shut one's eyes to the sun at noonday. To try

to change is like trying to stop the revolution of the earth. To

call it a "predatory" instinct is to talk at random. To take from

a man by force what he possesses is an essentially different thing

from driving the hardest of hard bargains with him. Every bargain

is regarded as an advantage by both parties at the time when it is

made, otherwise it would not be made at all. If I save a drowning

man's life on condition that he will convey to me his whole estate,

he is better off than if I leave him to drown. My act is certainly

not affectionate, but neither is it predatory. It improves the

condition of both parties, and the same is true of all trade.

The most singular part of Mr. Ruskin's address consisted of a

catechism which appears to us to admit of very simple answers,

which we will proceed to give, as "the questions were received with

much applause," though we do not appreciate their importance. They

are as follows:--

Question.--"1. It is stated in a paper read before the

jurisprudence section of the National Association for the Promotion

of Social Science, and afterwards published at their office,

that 'without the capitalist labour could accomplish nothing,'

(p. 4). But for long periods of time in some parts of the world

the accumulation of money was forbidden, and in others it was

impossible. Has labour never accomplished anything in such

districts?"

Answer.--Capital is not merely "an accumulation of money." It is

a general name for the whole stock by and out of which things

are made. Labour never accomplished anything without materials

or anything important without tools, and materials and tools

are capital.

Question.--"2. Supposing that in the present state of England

the capital is necessary, are capitalists so? In other words,

is it needful for right operation of capital that it should be

administered under the arbitrary power of one person?"

Answer.--Yes, it is, unless you do away with the institution

of private property. It is necessary for the right operation of

capital that some one or other should have arbitrary power over it,

and that arbitrary power must either be lodged in individuals,

who thereupon become capitalists, or else in the public or its

representatives, in which case there is only one capitalist--the

State.

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