_John Knox._ Madam, as right religion took neither original strength

nor authority from worldly princes, but from the Eternal God alone,

subjects are not bound to frame their religion according to the

appetites of their princes. Oft it is that princes are the most

ignorant of all others in God's true religion, as we may read in

the histories of times before the death of Christ Jesus, as well as

after. If all the seed of Abraham should have been of the religion

of Pharaoh, to whom they were long subjects, I pray you, Madam, what

religion should there have been in the world? Or, if all men in the

days of the Apostles should have been of the religion of the Roman

Emperors, what religion should there have been upon the face of the

earth? Daniel and his fellows were subjects to Nebuchadnezzar, and

to Darius, and yet, Madam, they would not be of their religion: for

the three children said, "We make it known unto thee, O King, that

we will not worship thy gods." And Daniel did pray publicly to his

God against the expressed commandment of the King. And so, Madam, ye

may perceive that subjects are not bound to the religion of their

princes, albeit they are commanded to give them obedience.

_Queen Mary._ Yea, but none of these men raised the sword against

their princes.

_John Knox._ Yet, Madam, ye cannot deny that they resisted: for,

in some sort, these resist that obey not the commandments that are

given.

_Queen Mary._ But yet, they resisted not by the sword.

_John Knox._ God, Madam, had not given unto them the power and the

means.

_Queen Mary._ Think ye, that subjects having power may resist their

princes.

_John Knox._ If their princes exceed their bounds, Madam, no doubt

they should be resisted, even by power. For there is neither greater

honour, nor greater obedience to be given to kings or princes, than

God has commanded to be given to father and mother. But, Madam, the

father may be stricken with a frenzy, in which he would slay his

own children. Now, Madam, if the children arise, join themselves

together, apprehend the father, take the sword or other weapons

from him, and finally bind his hands, and keep him in prison, until

his frenzy be overpast; think ye, Madam, that the children do any

wrong? Or, think ye, Madam, that God will be offended with them that

have stayed their father from committing wickedness? It is even

so, Madam, with princes that would murder the children of God that

are subject unto them. Their blind zeal is nothing but a very mad

frenzy; and, therefore, to take the sword from them, to bind their

hands, and to cast them into prison until they be brought to a more

sober mind, is no disobedience against princes, but just obedience,

because it agreeth with the will of God.

At these words the Queen stood as it were amazed, for more than

quarter of an hour. Her countenance altered, so that Lord James

began to entreat her, and to demand, "What has offended you, Madam."

At length she said, "Well, then, I perceive that my subjects shall

obey you, and not me; and shall do what they list, and not what I

command: and so must I be subject to them, and not they to me."

_John Knox._ God forbid, that ever I take upon me to command any

to obey me, or yet to set subjects at liberty to do what pleaseth

them. But my travail is that both princes and subjects obey God.

And think not, Madam, that wrong is done to you when ye are willed

to be subject to God. It is He that subjects people under princes,

and causes obedience to be given to them; yea, God craves of kings

that they be, as it were, foster-fathers to His Church, and commands

queens to be nurses to His people. And, Madam, this subjection to

God and to His troubled Church is the greatest dignity that flesh

can get upon the face of the earth, for it shall carry them to

everlasting glory.

_Queen Mary._ Yea, but ye are not the Kirk that I will nurse. I will

defend the Kirk of Rome, for I think it is the true Kirk of God.

_John Knox._ Your will, Madam, is no reason; neither doth your

thought make of that Roman harlot the true and immaculate spouse

of Jesus Christ. Wonder not, Madam, that I call Rome a harlot;

for that Church is altogether polluted with all kind of spiritual

fornication, as well in doctrine as in manners. Yea, Madam, I offer

myself further to prove that the Church of the Jews that crucified

Christ Jesus, when it manifestly denied the Son of God, was not so

far degenerated from the ordinances and statutes which God gave by

Moses and Aaron unto His people, as the Church of Rome is declined,

and for more than five hundred years hath declined from the purity

of that religion which the Apostles taught and planted.

_Queen Mary._ My conscience is not so.

_John Knox._ Conscience, Madam, requires knowledge; and I fear that

right knowledge ye have none.

_Queen Mary._ But I have both heard and read.

_John Knox._ So, Madam, did the Jews that crucified Christ Jesus

read both the Law and the Prophets, and heard the same interpreted

after their manner. Have ye heard any teach, but such as the Pope

and his Cardinals have allowed? Ye may be assured that such will

speak nothing to offend their own estate.

_Queen Mary._ Ye interpret the Scriptures in one manner, and they

interpret in another; whom shall I believe? And who shall be judge?

_John Knox._ Ye shall believe God, that plainly speaketh in His

Word: and, farther than the Word teaches you, ye shall believe

neither the one nor the other. The Word of God is plain in itself;

and, if there appear any obscurity in one place, the Holy Ghost,

who is never contrary to Himself, explains the same more clearly

in other places: so that there can remain no doubt, but to such as

obstinately remain ignorant. And now, Madam, take one of the chief

points this day in controversy betwixt the Papists and us. For

example, the Papists allege and boldly have affirmed that the Mass

is the ordinance of God, and the institution of Jesus Christ, and a

sacrifice for the sins of the quick and the dead. We deny both the

one and the other, and affirm that the Mass, as it is now used, is

nothing but the invention of man; and, therefore, is an abomination

before God, and no sacrifice that ever God commanded. Now, Madam,

who shall judge betwixt us two thus contending? There is no reason

that either of the parties be believed farther than they are able

to prove by insuspect witnessing. Let them lay down the Book of God

and, by the plain words thereof, prove their affirmation, and we

shall give them the plea granted. But so long as they are bold to

affirm, and yet do prove nothing, we must say that, albeit all the

world believe them, yet they believe not God, but receive the lies

of men for the truth of God. What our Master Jesus Christ did, we

know from His Evangelists: what the priest doeth at his Mass, the

world seeth. Now, doth not the Word of God plainly assure us that

Christ Jesus neither said, nor yet commanded Mass to be said at His

Last Supper, seeing that no such thing as their Mass is made mention

of within the whole Scriptures?

_Queen Mary._ Ye are ower sair[182] for me, but if they were here

that I have heard, they would answer you.

[182] Too deep.

_John Knox._ Madam, would to God that the learnedest Papist in

Europe, and him whom ye would best believe, were present with your

Grace to sustain the argument; and that ye would patiently abide to

hear the matter reasoned to the end; for then, I doubt not, Madam,

ye should hear the vanity of the papistical religion, and how small

ground it hath within the Word of God.

_Queen Mary._ Well, ye may perchance get that sooner than ye believe.

_John Knox._ Assuredly, if ever I get that in my life, I get it

sooner than I believe; for the ignorant Papists cannot patiently

reason, and the learned and crafty Papists will never come to your

audience, Madam, to have the ground of their religion searched out.

They know that they are never able to sustain an argument, unless

fire, and sword, and their own laws be judges.

_Queen Mary._ So say ye, but I cannot believe that.

_John Knox._ It has been so to this day; for how oft have the

Papists in this and other realms been required to come to

conference, and yet it could never be obtained, unless they

themselves were admitted as judges. Therefore, Madam, I must yet

say again that they dare never dispute, but where themselves are

both judge and party. Whensoever ye shall let me see the contrary, I

shall grant myself to have been deceived in that point.

With this the Queen was called to dinner, for it was afternoon. At

departing, John Knox said to her, "I pray God, Madam, that ye may

be as blessed within the commonwealth of Scotland, if it be the

pleasure of God, as ever Deborah was in the commonwealth of Israel."

[Sidenote: No Results follow the Queen's Conference with Knox.]

Of this long conference, whereof we only touch a part, there were

divers opinions. The Papists grudged, and feared that which they

needed not. The godly, thinking that at least she would have heard

the preaching, rejoiced; but they were utterly deceived, for she

continued in her massing; and despised and quietly mocked all

exhortations.

Some of his familiars demanded of John Knox what he thought of the

Queen. "If there be not in her," said he, "a proud mind, a crafty

wit, and an indurate heart against God and His truth, my judgment

faileth me...."

The Duke D'Aumale returned with the galleys to France. The Queen

entered on her progresses, and in the month of September travelled

from Edinburgh to Linlithgow, Stirling, Perth, Dundee, and St.

Andrews; and all these parts she polluted with her idolatry. Fire

followed her very commonly in that journey. The towns propyned[183]

her liberally, and the French were enriched.

[183] Presented gifts.

[Sidenote: The Prodigality of Edinburgh.]

In the beginning of October, the Queen returned to Edinburgh, and on

the day appointed she was received in the Castle. Great preparations

were made for her entrance to the town. In farces, in masking, and

in other prodigalities, fools would fain have counterfeited France.

Whatsoever might set forth her glory, that she heard and gladly

beheld. The keys were delivered to her by a pretty boy, descending

as it were from a cloud. The verses in her own praises she heard,

and smiled. But when the Bible was presented, and its praise

declared, she began to frown: for shame she could not refuse it. But

she did no better, for immediately she gave it to the most pestilent

Papist within the realm, to wit, to Arthur Erskine. Since that day,

the people of Edinburgh have reaped as they sowed. They gave her

some taste of their prodigality; and because the liquor was sweet,

she has licked of that buist[184] oftener than twice since. All men

know what we mean: the Queen cannot lack and the subjects have.

[184] Brewing.

[Sidenote: The Magistrates of Edinburgh are imprisoned and deposed.]

It hath been an ancient and a laudable custom in Edinburgh that the

Provost, Bailies, and Council, after their election at Michaelmas,

cause public proclamation of the statutes and ordinances of the

town. Therefore Archibald Douglas, Provost, Edward Hope, Adam

Fullerton, Mr. James Watson, and David Somer, Bailies, made

proclamation, according to the former statutes of the town, that

no adulterer, no fornicator, no noted drunkard, no mass-monger,

no obstinate Papists that corrupted the people, such as priests,

friars, and others of that sort, should be found within the town

within forty-eight hours thereafter, under the pains contained

in the statutes. This blown in the Queen's ears, pride and

maliciousness began to show themselves; for, without further

intimation, the Provost and Bailies were charged to ward in the

Castle; and immediately commandment was given that another Provost

and other Bailies should be elected.

Some gainstood the new election for a while, alleging that the

Provost and Bailies whom they had chosen, and to whom they had given

their oath, had committed no offence for which they ought justly to

be deprived. But charge was doubled upon charge, and, no man being

found to oppose the iniquity, Jezebel's letter and wicked will were

obeyed as law. So Mr. Thomas M'Calzean was chosen. The man, no

doubt, was both discreet and sufficient for that charge; but the

deposition of the other was against all law. God be merciful to some

of our own; for they were not all blameless that her wicked will was

so far obeyed.

A contrary proclamation was publicly made, to the effect that

the town should be patent unto all the Queen's lieges; and so

murderers, adulterers, thieves, whores, drunkards, idolaters, and

all malefactors, got protection under the Queen's wings, under that

colour, because they were of her religion. And so gat the Devil

freedom again, where before he durst not have been seen in daylight

upon the common streets. "Lord deliver us from that bondage."

[Sidenote: The Mass is restored.]

The Devil, finding his reins loose, ran forward in his course;

and the Queen took upon her greater boldness than she and Baal's

bleating priests durst have attempted before. For, upon Allhallow

Day, they blended their Mass with all mischievous solemnity.

The ministers, offended, declared in plain and public place the

inconveniences that should ensue, and the nobility were sufficiently

admonished of their duties. But affection caused men to call in

doubt that wherein shortly before they had seemed to be most

resolute, to wit, "Whether subjects might put to their hand to

suppress the idolatry of their Prince." Upon this question, there

convened, in the house of Mr. James Macgill, the Lord James, the

Earl of Morton, the Earl Marischall, Secretary Lethington, the

Justice Clerk, and the Clerk of Register. All reasoned for the part

of the Queen, affirming that the subjects might not lawfully take

her Mass from her. Of the contrary judgment were the principal

ministers, Mr. John Row, Master George Hay, Master Robert Hamilton,

and John Knox....

The conclusion of that first reasoning was that the question should

be put in form, and letters directed to Geneva for the resolution of

that Church. Therein John Knox offered his labours; but Secretary

Lethington, alleging that much depended on the information, said

that he should write. But that was only to drive time, as the truth

declared itself. The Queen's party urged that the Queen should have

her religion free in her own chapel, that she and her household

might do what they should list. The ministers both affirmed and

voted to the contrary, adding that her liberty should be their

thraldom before long. But neither could reason nor threatening move

the affections of such as were creeping into credit, and the votes

of the Lords prevailed against those of the ministers.

[Sidenote: Lord James Stewart is sent to the Borders.]

For the punishment of theft and of reif,[185] which had increased

upon the Borders and in the south, since the Queen's arrival, the

Lord James was made Lieutenant. Some suspected that such honour and

charge proceeded from the same heart and counsel as that by which

Saul made David captain against the Philistines. But God assisted

him, and bowed the hearts of men to fear and obey him. Yea, the Lord

Bothwell himself at that time assisted him. Sharp execution was made

in Jedburgh, for twenty-eight of one clan and others were hanged at

that Justice Court. Bribes, buds, nor solicitation saved the guilty,

if he could be apprehended; and God prospered the Lord James in his

integrity. He also spake with the Lord Grey from England at Kelso,

that good rule might be kept upon both the Borders, and they agreed

in all things.

[185] Robbery.

[Sidenote: The Behaviour of the Queen.]

Before the return of the Lord James, the Queen one night took a

fray[186] in her bed, as if horsemen had been in the close, and the

Palace had been enclosed about. Whether this proceeded of her own

womanly fantasy, or men had put her in fear, for displeasure of the

Earl of Arran, and for other purposes, as for the strengthening

of the guard, we know not. But the fear was so great that the town

was called to the watch. Lords Robert of Holyroodhouse and John

of Coldingham kept the watch by turns. Scouts were sent forth,

and sentinels were commanded, under pain of death, to keep their

stations. Yet they feared, where there was no cause for fear: nor

could ever any appearance or suspicion of such things be discovered.

[186] Fright.

Shortly after the return of the Lord James, Sir Peter Mewtas

came from the Queen of England, with commission to require the

ratification of the Peace made at Leith. His answer was even such as

we have heard before--that she behoved to advise, and then should

send answer.

In presence of her Council, the Queen kept herself very grave, for,

under the dule weed,[187] she could play the hypocrite in full

perfection; but as soon as ever her French fillocks,[188] fiddlers,

and others of that band, got the house alone, there might have been

seen skipping not very comely for honest women. Her common talk was

in secret; she saw nothing in Scotland but gravity, which repugned

altogether to her nature, for she was brought up in joyousness, as

she termed her dancing, and other things thereto belonging.

[187] Apparel of mourning.

[188] Giddy young women.

[Sidenote: The Influence of the Court is felt in the Kirk.]

The General Assembly of the Church was held in the December

after the Queen's arrival. There the rulers of the Court began

to draw themselves apart from the society of their brethren, and

to sturr[189] and grudge that anything should be consulted upon

without their advices. Master John Wood, who had formerly shown

himself very fervent in the cause of God, and forward in giving his

counsel in all doubtful matters, plainly refused ever to assist

the Assembly again. At this many did wonder. The courtiers drew to

them some of the Lords, and would not convene with their brethren,

as had been their former custom, remaining at the Abbey instead.

The principal commissioners of the churches, the superintendents,

and some ministers went to see them at the Abbot's lodging within

Holyroodhouse. Both the parties began to open their grief.

[189] Make disturbance.

[Sidenote: The Ministers reproach the defaulting Lords.]

The Lords complained that the ministers drew the gentlemen into

secret councils without their knowledge. The ministers denied that

they had done anything in secret, or otherwise than the Common

Order commanded them; and accused the Lords, the flatterers of

the Queen we mean, for not having kept convention with their

brethren, considering that they knew the order, and that the same

was appointed by their own advices, as the Book of Discipline,

subscribed by the hands of the most part of them, would witness.

Some began to deny that ever they knew such a thing as the Book of

Discipline; and also called in doubt whether it was expedient that

such conventions should be held; for gladly would the Queen and her

Secret Council have had all assemblies of the godly discharged.

The reasoning was sharp and quick on either part. The Queen's

faction alleged that it was suspicious to Princes that subjects

should assemble themselves and keep conventions without their

knowledge. It was answered that the Church did nothing without

knowledge of the Prince. The Prince perfectly understood that within

this realm there was a Reformed Church, and that they had their

orders and appointed times of convention. "Yea," said Lethington,

"the Queen knew and knoweth it well enough; but the question is,

whether the Queen allows such conventions?" It was answered, "If the

liberty of the Church should stand upon the Queen's allowance or

disallowance, we are assured not only to lack assemblies, but also

the public preaching of the Evangel."

That affirmative was mocked, and the contrary was affirmed. "Well,"

said the other, "time will try the truth; but to my former words

this will I add--take from us the freedom of assemblies, and take

from us the Evangel; for, without assemblies, how shall good order

and unity in doctrine be kept? It is not to be supposed that all

ministers shall be so perfect, but that they shall need admonition,

concerning manners as well as doctrine. It may be that some

shall be so stiff-necked that they will not admit the admonition

of the simple. It may be that fault may be found with ministers,

without just offence committed. Yet, if order be not taken, both

with the complainer and the persons complained upon, it cannot be

avoided that many grievous offences shall arise. For remedy of

these, General Assemblies are necessary. There, the judgment and

the gravity of many concur to correct or to repress the follies or

errors of a few." The majority of the Nobility and of the Barons

assented to this, and willed the reasoners for the part of the

Queen to desire that, if her Grace were suspicious of anything that

was to be dealt with in their Assemblies, she should be pleased to

send such as she would appoint, to hear whatsoever was proponed or

reasoned.

[Sidenote: Discussion concerning the Book of Discipline.]

After that, the Book of Discipline was put forward, with request

that it should be ratified by the Queen's Majesty. That was scripped

at, and it was demanded, "How many of those that had subscribed that

Book would be subject unto it?" It was answered, "All the godly."

"Will the Duke?" said Lethington. "If he will not," answered the

Lord Ochiltree, "I would that he were scraped out, not only from

that Book, but also from our number and company. For to what purpose

shall labours be taken to put the Kirk in order, and to what end

shall men subscribe, and then never mean to keep a word of that

which they promise?" Lethington answered, "Many subscribed there _in

fide parentum_, as the bairns are baptized." John Knox answered,

"Albeit ye think that scoff proper, yet, as it is most untrue, so

is it most improper. That Book was read in public audience, and by

the space of divers days the heads thereof were reasoned, as all

that here sit know well enough, and ye yourself cannot deny; no man

was required to subscribe that which he understood not." "Stand

content," said one, "that Book will not be obtained." "Let God,"

said the other, "require the lack which this poor Commonwealth shall

have of the things therein contained, from the hands of such as stop

the same."

[Sidenote: The Barons sue for Public Order in regard to

Ecclesiastical Benefices.]

The Barons, perceiving that the Book of Discipline was refused,

presented certain Articles to the Council, requiring idolatry to be

suppressed, their churches to be planted with true ministers, and

some certain provision to be made for these, according to equity and

conscience; for, until that time, the most part of the ministers had

lived upon the benevolence of men. Many held in their own hands the

fruits that the bishops and others of that sect had formerly abused;

and so some part was bestowed upon the ministers. But then the

bishops began to grip again at that which most unjustly they called

their own; for the Earl of Arran was discharged of St. Andrews and

Dunfermline, with which, by virtue of a factory, he had formerly

intromitted: and so were many others. Therefore the Barons required

that arrangements might be made for their ministers. Otherwise, they

would obey the bishops no more, nor would they suffer anything to be

taken for their use, more than they did before the Queen's arrival.

They verily supposed that the Queen's Majesty would keep promise

made to them, not to alter their religion. That could not remain

without ministers, and ministers could not live without provision.

For these reasons, they heartily desired the Council to provide some

convenient order in that respect.

[Sidenote: The Council agrees to divide the Patrimony of the Kirk.]

The Queen's flatterers were somewhat moved; for the rod of impiety

was not then strengthened in her and their hands. So they began to

practise; they wished to please the Queen, and yet seem somewhat

to satisfy the faithful. In the end, they devised that the

Churchmen[190] should have intromission with two parts of their

benefices, and that the third part should be lifted by such men as

thereto should be appointed for [the necessities concerning the

Queen's Majesty, and charges to be borne for the common weal of the

realm, and sustentation of the preachers and readers.][191]...

[190] That is, the Papists in possession of benefices.

[191] Knox here quotes, in full, the Acts passed by the Council.

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