WILLIAM BATES.

Birmingham.

_Fides Carbonarii_ (Vol. iv., pp. 233. 283.).--In reply to QUERIST as to

this saying, E. H. D. D. states that it originated in an anecdote told by

Dr. Milner, or some other controversial writer. A coal-porter being asked

what he believed, replied, "What the church believes:" and being asked what

the church believed, replied, "What I believe."

Now I find the same meaning given by Henry {524} de Bellingen, in his

_Etym. des Prov. Français_, printed at the Hague, 1656. His words, as

quoted by Leroux de Lincy, are as follow:

"On fait un conte qui a donné l'origine à ce proverbe. Un charbonnier

estant enquis par le diable de ce qu'il croyait, luy respondit:

'Toujours je crois ce que l'église croit.' De là est venu que lorsqu'on

a voulu marquer qu'un homme avait une foi ferme, mais sans science, on

a dit: 'La foi du charbonnier.'"

Also, in P. J. Le Roux's _Dictionnaire Comique_, 1750:

"_La foi du charbonnier._ Quand on parle d'une foi implicite, qui fait

croire à un Chrétien en général tout ce que l'église croit."

In Landais' _Dictionary_, 4to.:

"_La foi du charbonnier_, foi simple et aveugle qui ne raisonne pas."

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