COMMISSARIAT OF LABOUR

February 28th.

This morning I went round to the Commissariat of Labour,

to see Schmidt, the Commissar. Schmidt is a

clean-shaven, intelligent young man, whose attention to business

methods is reflected in his Commissariat, which, unlike that

of Foreign Affairs, is extremely clean and very well

organized. I told him I was particularly interested to hear

what he could say in answer to the accusations made both

by the Mensheviks and by the Extremists on the Left that

control by the workers has become a dead letter, and that a

time will come when the trades unions will move against

the state organizations.

Schmidt answered: "Those accusations and suggestions are

all very well for agitational purposes, but the first to laugh

at them would be the trades unions themselves. This

Commissariat, for example, which is the actual labour

centre, is controlled directly by the unions. As Commissar

of Labour, I was elected directly by the General Council of

the Trades Unions. Of the College of nine members which

controls the whole work of the Commissariat, five are

elected directly by the General Council of the Trades

Unions and four appointed by the Council of People's

Commissaries, thus giving the Unions a decisive majority

in all questions concerning labour. All nine are confirmed

by the Council of People's Commissaries, representing the

state as a whole, and the Commissar is confirmed by the

All-Russian Executive Committee."

Of course control by the workers, as it was first introduced,

led speedily to many absurdities and, much to the

dissatisfaction of the extremer elements, has been

considerably modified. It was realized that the workers in

any particular factory might by considering only their own

interests harm the community as a whole, and so, in the

long run, themselves. The manner of its modification is an

interesting example of the way in which, without the

influence of tanks, aeroplanes or bayonets, the cruder

ideas of communism are being modified by life. It was

reasoned that since the factory was the property, not of the

particular workmen who work in it, but of the community

as a whole, the community as a whole should have a

considerable voice in its management. And the effect of

that reasoning has been to ensure that the technical

specialist and the expert works manager are no longer at the

caprice of a hastily called gathering of the workmen who

may, without understanding them, happen to disapprove of

some of their dispositions. Thus the economical,

administrative council of a nationalized factory consists of

representatives of the workmen and clerical staff,

representatives of the higher technical and commercial

staffs, the directors of the factory (who are appointed by the

Central Direction of National Factories), representatives of

the local council of trades unions, the Council of Public

Economy, the local soviet, and the industrial union of the

particular industry carried on in the factory, together with, a

representative of the workers' co-operative society and a

representative of the peasants' soviet of the district in

which the factory is situated. In this council not more than

half of the members may be representatives of the workmen

and clerical staff of the factory. This council considers the

internal order of the factory, complaints of any kind, and

the material and moral conditions of work and so on. On

questions of a technical character it has no right to do more

than give advice.

The night before I saw Schmidt, little Finberg had come to

my room for a game of chess in a very perturbed state of

mind, having just come from a meeting of the union to

which he belonged (the union of clerks, shop assistants and

civil servants) where there had been a majority against the

Bolsheviks after some fierce criticism over this particular

question. Finberg had said that the ground basis of the

discontent had been the lack of food, but that the outspoken

criticism had taken the form, first, of protests against the

offer of concessions in Chicherin's Note of February 4th,

on the ground that concessions meant concessions to

foreign capitalism and the formation in Russia of capitalist

centres which would eventually spread; and second, that the

Communists themselves, by their modifications of

Workers' Control, were introducing State Capitalism

instead of Socialism.

I mentioned this union to Schmidt, and asked him to

explain its hostility. He laughed, and said: "Firstly, that

union is not an industrial union at all, but includes precisely

the people whose interests are not identical with those of

the workmen. Secondly, it includes all the old civil

servants who, as you remember, left the ministries at the

November Revolution, in many cases taking the money

with them. They came back in the end, but though no

longer ready to work openly against the revolution as a

whole, they retain much of their old dislike of us, and, as

you see, the things they were objecting to last night were

precisely the things which do not concern them in

particular. Any other stick would be as good to them.

They know well that if they were to go on strike now they

would be a nuisance to us, no more. If you wish to know

the attitude of the Trades Unions, you should look at the

Trades Union Congress which wholly supported us, and

gave a very different picture of affairs. They know

well that in all questions of labour, the trades unions have

the decisive voice. I told you that the unions send a

majority of the members of the College which controls the

work of this Commissariat. I should have added that the

three most important departments-the department for

safeguarding labour, the department for distributing labour,

and that for regulating wages-are entirely controlled by the

Unions."

"How do politics affect the Commissariat?"

"Not at all. Politics do not count with us, just because we

are directly controlled by the Unions, and not, by any

political party. Mensheviks, Maximalists and others have

worked and are working in the Commissariat. Of course if

a man were opposed to the revolution as a whole we should

not have him here, because he would be working against us

instead of helping."

I asked whether he thought the trade unions would ever

disappear in the Soviet organizations. He thought not. On

the contrary, they had grown steadily throughout the

revolution. He told me that one great change had been

made in them. Trade unions have been merged

together into industrial unions, to prevent conflict

between individual sections of one industry. Thus

boilermakers and smiths do not have separate unions, but

are united in the metal-workers' union. This unification

has its effect on reforms and changes. An increase in

wages, for example, is simultaneous all over Russia. The

price of living varies very considerably in different parts of

the country, there being as great differences between the

climates of different parts as there are between the countries

of Europe. Consequently a uniform absolute increase

would be grossly unfair to some and grossly favourable to

others. The increase is therefore proportional to the cost of

living. Moscow is taken as a norm of 100, and when a new

minimum wage is established for Moscow other districts

increase their minimum wage proportionately. A table for

this has been worked out, whereby in comparison with 100

for Moscow, Petrograd is set down as 120, Voronezh or

Kursk as 70, and so on.

We spoke of the new programme of the Communists,

rough drafts of which were being printed in the newspapers

for discussion, and he showed me his own suggestions

in so far as the programme concerned labour. He wished

the programme to include, among other aims, the further

mechanization of production, particularly the mechanization

of all unpleasant and dirty processes, improved sanitary

inspection, shortening of the working day in employments

harmful to health, forbidding women with child to do any

but very light work, and none at all for eight weeks before

giving birth and for eight weeks afterwards, forbidding

overtime, and so on. "We have already gone far beyond

our old programme, and our new one steps far ahead of us.

Russia is the first country in the world where all workers

have a fortnight's holiday in the year, and workers in

dangerous or unhealthy occupations have a month's."

I said, "Yes, but don't you find that there is a very long way

between the passing of a law and its realization?"

Schmidt laughed and replied: "In some things certainly,

yes. For example, we are against all overtime, but, in the

present state of Russia we should be sacrificing to a theory

the good of the revolution as a whole if we did not allow

and encourage overtime in transport repairs. Similarly,

until things are further developed than they are now, we

should be criminal slaves to theory if we did not, in some

cases, allow lads under sixteen years old to be in the

factories when we have not yet been able to provide the

necessary schools where we would wish them to be. But

the programme is there, and as fast as it can be realized we

are realizing it."

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