DISCUSSION

DR. SMITH ELY JELLIFFE, New York: Dr. Southard has heretofore launched us

upon very large subjects. I can well recall in one of his previous

communications the fascinating correlations drawn between structural changes

and the character of the psychological signs. In dementia praecox

particularly, he has shown us how auditory symptoms group about temporal

atrophies and optical signs with the occipital and so forth and so on. He

now proposes to thrust us into a larger and much more intricate sphere of

activity as to the representation in the cortex of other changes which as he

has described are inframicroscopical or inframacroscopical. In other words,

there must be some type of correlation between the projection in the

cerebral structure of the organ itself which is cerebrally represented and

certain mental signs. If I see what Dr. Southard has been thinking about,

we are certainly engaged in a very fascinating topic. It is well known from

the standpoint of topographical cerebral correlation that the brain is

nothing but a series of body symbols, as it were. Adler has entered this

field and approaches the problem by saying that the inferior organ, liver,

kidney, or what not, is related to a similar defective cerebral

representation of the organ, thus introducing into the nemological mechanism

the task of compensating for the defective structure. Dr. Southard wishes to

try to map out these defects in the cerebral structures and thus reason

backwards to the somatic inferiority. I confess he lifts me into ideal

regions. Such stimuli are enjoyable and provocative of development.

DR. TOM A. WILLIAMS, Washington, D. C: I conceive Dr. Southard's purpose

somewhat differently from Dr. Jelliffe whose thought seems to be somewhat

like that of Henry Head when he published his paper in reference to

hallucinations, corresponding to various head zones in correspondence with

different visceral areas and with special sense organs, eye, ear and so on.

I have conceived Dr. Southard as being a direct chemical in line with

Folius' pathology researches. If that is the case we have a great many

clinical cases which might be underlined with his central thought.

PRESIDENT HALL: It is almost too good to be true if Dr. Southard has really

made connections between delusions of personality and the great topic of

character. It illustrates the old Hippocratic saw, "God-like is the man who

is also a philosopher." Character might almost be called a name for all the

mysteries of psychology, and from Mill's ethology and the old phrenologies

of temperament that Wundt adopts with slight modifications, we have really

made little progress. It seems to me very significant that Dr. Southard

should interest himself, as his paper leads one to judge he does, in such

problems as Shand's somewhat abstract work, and should seek correlations

with legal characterology like that of Roscoe Pound. It would be of great

interest to know whether Dr. Southard obtained his differentiations purely

from pathological cases or whether, accepting Shand or Pound or both, using

their distinctions as apperceptive organs, he unconsciously reads their

distinctions into his cases. His paper, at any rate, is a genuine

contribution as well as an encouragement to those who seek to correlate the

normal with the abnormal.

DR. JAMES J. PUTNAM, Boston: I only want to express my warm sympathy with

Dr. Southard's scheme. This careful working out of correlations one would

say is a good method of scientific research and must lead to something. I

think Dr. Southard would rather avoid the suggestion of CAUSES for the

results that he found, but the METHOD appears safe and profitable.

DR. JOHN T. MACCURDY, New York: As another psychoanalyst it gives me

pleasure to hear this paper. As a psychoanalyst, and one who has done most

of his work with the delusions. of the insane, I must say that I have felt

all along that psychoanalysis fails utterly when it tries to account for the

manifest content of a delusion. We can trace the psychological stages from

the manifest content in varying delusions back to a more or less constant

unconscious striving-- the latent content. The tendency of this latent

content to appear as delusions depends on a defect of adaptation, which must

have a physical basis probably of a general nature. The delusions, in many

cases, are symbols of the latent content. From a psycho-analytic standpoint,

the problem presented in Dr. Southard's paper is "Why is a certain symbol

chosen in one case and another in another individual?" It may well be that

specific organic factors operate here. One could imagine that the mechanism

is purely psychological. In a hepatic condition, for instance, the attention

of the patient may be directed to that part of the body which is affected by

the pathological process in the liver and that for this reason the ideas

which appear refer to generations in that region. At least we may hope for

definite and interesting results from elaboration of the method outlined by

Dr. Southard's statistics.

DR. SOUTHARD: I am rather astonished and well pleased at the cordial

reception of my little statistical work on delusions and upon the elaborate

discussion. As to Dr. Hall's question whether my data were collected to

prove the a priori contention concerning the correlation of unpleasantness

with lesions below the diaphragm, I would say that I expressed a suspicion

of this correlation in my paper on "How Far is the Environment Responsible

for Delusions," (Journal of Abnormal Psychology, June-July, 1913). I was

stimulated to finish my article by the appearance of Shand's book on "The

Foundations of Character" and the articles on "Personality" by Prof. Roscoe

Pound which have been appearing in the Harvard Law Review.

"Dyslalia Viewed as a Centre Asthenia" was the title of a paper read by Dr.

Walter B. Swift, Boston.[1]

[1] Reserved for Publication.

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