Mr. HUBERT. That would be an objectionable joke?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; because there would be no question in anybody’s mind.
Mr. HUBERT. Is that a specific example, or one that you were using?
Mr. CRAFARD. An example; the joke was not told in the club.
Mr. HUBERT. From what you have told us as a generalization it would
seem to be this, that any joke that left it to the imagination of
the listener would be all right with Jack, but if it was specific he
objected to it.
Mr. CRAFARD. That is right. It was pretty well acceptable all over the
country that way. You take even with a party joke. If a party joke
leaves in a person’s mind in most places, leaves it to a person to
imagine it themselves, it is acceptable. But if there isn’t any doubt
it doesn’t make it acceptable in a mixed party.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Larry, did you learn anything that would indicate whether
Jack’s attitude about these jokes was based on any concern about what
the local law-enforcement people would feel about having such jokes
told in his club?
Mr. CRAFARD. No; I don’t--I can’t think of anything that would make me
feel that way.
Mr. HUBERT. Was it your impression of his being perturbed, as the way
you put it, was sincere or possibly just part of the act?
Mr. CRAFARD. It seemed pretty sincere to me.
Mr. HUBERT. He never did tell you, man to man, that he objected to
these?
Mr. CRAFARD. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Jack tell any jokes himself?
Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t recall of any. I think a couple of times he got on
the stage and tried to M.C. and fell sort of flat.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How about privately; was Jack the kind of person who would
joke and tell jokes?
Mr. CRAFARD. He never did that I know of.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Was Jack the kind of person who would sit around with the
comedians and talk with them in between acts and so forth?
Mr. CRAFARD. No; Jack was the kind that the only time he would say
anything to the comedians was if he done something he didn’t like, and
if Jack wanted the comedian to do something he would say something to
him.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever notice any traits of physical violence in Ruby?
Mr. CRAFARD. The one time I noticed any traits of physical violence at
all, there was a guy came to the club who was pretty well polluted,
and I think Ralph Paul was sitting right near the door, and he started
giving the doorman a bad time.