The testimony of Curtis LaVerne Crafard was taken at 9:05 a.m., on
April 8, 1964, at 200 Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C., by Messrs.
Burt W. Griffin and Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the
President’s Commission.
Mr. HUBERT. This is the deposition of Curtis LaVerne Crafard.
Mr. Crafard, my name is Leon Hubert. I am a member of the advisory
staff of the President’s Commission on the Assassination of President
Kennedy, and I have been authorized by the Commission in accordance
with law and regulations to take a sworn deposition from you.
The general nature of the Commission’s inquiry is to ascertain the
facts relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and the
subsequent violent death of Lee Harvey Oswald.
In particular as to you, Mr. Crafard, the nature of the inquiry is to
determine what facts you know about the general inquiry, the death of
Oswald and what you know about Jack Ruby.
Now, you have appeared here today by virtue of a subpena dated April
3, 1964, and issued by the Commission to you to appear here in this
building, room 400, Veterans of Foreign Wars Building, 200 Maryland
Avenue NE., Washington, to be deposed.
When was this subpena served upon you?
Mr. CRAFARD. Last Saturday.
Mr. HUBERT. I think that would have been the 4th.
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. The 4th of April.
Would you rise and be sworn, please?
Raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are
about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth, so help you God?
Mr. CRAFARD. I do.
Mr. HUBERT. Will you state your full name for the record, please?
Mr. CRAFARD. Curtis LaVerne Crafard.
Mr. HUBERT. Where do you live, Mr. Crafard?
Mr. CRAFARD. 1219 Birch Street, Dallas, Oreg.
Mr. HUBERT. How old are you?
Mr. CRAFARD. 23.
Mr. HUBERT. When precisely were you born?
Mr. CRAFARD. March 10, 1941.
Mr. HUBERT. What is your present occupation?
Mr. CRAFARD. At the present time I am unemployed.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, the subpena that you were served with calls for you
to bring any documents that you may have concerning the matter under
inquiry, and I would like you now to make a return, as it is called,
as to the documents you do have so suppose you present those that you
brought with you in response to the subpena.
Mr. CRAFARD. All I had was the subpena from the Jack Ruby murder trial.
Some news clippings from the Ruby trial, and then more or less a diary
I have been keeping for a little while of my own movements.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, Mr. Crafard, concerning the diary about your
movements, do you have any objection if we have photostatic copies made
of the pages on which you have made entries?
Mr. CRAFARD. No objection whatsoever.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you wish to retain the original of this yourself?
Mr. CRAFARD. Unless it is of some use to you.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, it may be, but on the other hand, I don’t want to
take it away from you unless you feel that you don’t want to keep it or
have no use for it yourself.
Mr. CRAFARD. Well, I would like to have the book because it comes in
handy for a lot of things.
Mr. HUBERT. Mr. Crafard, who were your parents?
Mr. CRAFARD. Mr. Hugh Crafard, Mrs. Alice Irene Crafard.
Mr. HUBERT. Are they still living?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Are they living together?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Where do they live?
Mr. CRAFARD. At 1219 Birch Street, Dallas, Oreg.
Mr. HUBERT. Have you any brothers or sisters?
Mr. CRAFARD. I have one brother living. He is in the Army stationed in
Los Angeles, Calif.
Mr. HUBERT. What is his name?
Mr. CRAFARD. Edward D. Crafard.
Mr. HUBERT. Is he married?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Does he have children?
Mr. CRAFARD. Two.
Mr. HUBERT. You don’t have any other address for him than that which
you have given us?
Mr. CRAFARD. I can’t give you the address. All I know he is stationed
there in the Army.
Mr. HUBERT. You don’t know what organization in the Army?
Mr. CRAFARD. The Missile Corps, antiaircraft.