Mr. RICHEY. Was around 10 o’clock.
Mr. HUBERT. What fixes 10 in your mind?
Mr. RICHEY. Like I say, it was about the time they were expecting them
to bring Oswald down in the building. That was when the chief of police
told us they would be bringing him out, and we were looking for him,
because I was up there on a camera, with a camera on the ramp.
Mr. HUBERT. Had you gotten any kind of alert standby?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir. There was no alert of any kind. It was just the
time that they had given us the night before, actually.
Mr. HUBERT. Anyhow, you say that your recollection is that the last
time you saw him, which was when you saw him beyond the Commerce Street
ramp, was approximately an hour or a little better from the actual
shooting?
Mr. RICHEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. That is the last time you remember seeing him?
Mr. RICHEY. That was the end of it.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he seem at that time to be walking away from your truck?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir; he was standing.
Mr. HUBERT. He was just standing?
Mr. RICHEY. He was standing.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you see any police near him?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir; not near him. They had one policeman out on the
ramp.
Mr. HUBERT. But when you saw him, it was after all the crowd had been
moved over?
Mr. RICHEY. They were across the street.
Mr. HUBERT. From the side of the street where your truck was, to the
opposite side of Commerce Street?
Mr. RICHEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Were there many other people like this man walking around
in that area?
Mr. RICHEY. There was just occasionally newsmen, because they were
congregating in the basement and they would come by.
Mr. HUBERT. But this man whom you have identified as Jack Ruby; did he
have any kind of paper or press badge which you observed in the nature
of a press badge?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir; not that I saw, because there was a lot of newsmen
that didn’t have passes. Some of our crew didn’t even have passes, WBAP.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember when the armored truck pulled in there?
Mr. RICHEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Was that before or after the last time you saw the man you
have identified as Jack Ruby?
Mr. RICHEY. I believe that was the--I believe the armored truck pulled
in after I saw him the last time, because there was one pulled in and
backed in, and the other one parked on the street.
Mr. HUBERT. You think that the last time you saw Ruby was before?
Mr. RICHEY. Before any of that happened?
Mr. HUBERT. Before any of that happened.
Mr. RICHEY. Yes, sir; I believe it was.
Mr. HUBERT. All right; Mr. Richey, have you been interviewed by any
member of the President’s Commission prior to this occasion?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Have you anything else to say in any way?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir; I don’t know of anything.
Mr. HUBERT. I think you said that you really didn’t hear Ruby say
anything?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. I notice that this statement which has been identified as
5316--let me ask you: You were interviewed by the FBI?
Mr. RICHEY. Yes, sir; that was 2 or 3 days, I believe, after.
Mr. HUBERT. You were interviewed at the same time as Mr. Walker and Mr.
Smith?
Mr. RICHEY. Yes; and there were some others.
Mr. HUBERT. Was that an individual interview?
Mr. RICHEY. Not in our case. We were all together in the studio of WBAP.
Mr. HUBERT. You weren’t taken aside separately and individually?
Mr. RICHEY. Not when the FBI talked to us.
Mr. HUBERT. Each of you gave your story and the FBI agents made notes?
Mr. RICHEY. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he ever ask you to check the notes or any draft?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir; I have never heard or seen them since.
Mr. HUBERT. You were on duty with the truck during the day of Saturday,
November 23?
Mr. RICHEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Would it be possible that the man you saw and identified as
Jack Ruby would have been seen by you on the 23d rather than the 24th?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir; I don’t recall seeing anyone that even looked like
him on the 23d. That one morning is the only morning that I recall
seeing anyone that even looked like him.
Mr. HUBERT. On the 24th, I think you testified the crowd had been moved
over on the other side of the street?
Mr. RICHEY. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Had that been done on the 23d?
Mr. RICHEY. No, sir; no one bothered. There weren’t too many around
on the 23d. Mostly newsmen was all that was around on the 23d. There
wasn’t any crowd, really, but they started congregating on Sunday
morning on both sides of the ramp.
Mr. HUBERT. It was after they had begun to congregate that you saw this
man you have identified as Jack Ruby?
Mr. RICHEY. Yes, sir; and then they moved the other people across, and
I still saw him after they moved the other people across the street.
Mr. HUBERT. All right, sir. Thank you very much.