Mrs. PITTS. Well, I don’t know know if he----

Mr. HUBERT. Did he say he had just awakened?

Mrs. PITTS. No; I didn’t ask him that.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you know Mr. George Senator?

Mrs. PITTS. I know of him. I cleaned for him twice.

Mr. HUBERT. He lived in the same apartment, or a different one?

Mrs. PITTS. He was living next door to him when I cleaned for him. He

was 206, and Mr. Ruby was 205.

Mr. HUBERT. Let’s see. This apartment that you were going to clean on

November 24, what was the number of it?

Mrs. PITTS. That was Mr. Ruby. In 205.

Mr. HUBERT. Sure it was not 207?

Mrs. PITTS. That is it. He--206. Senator was right next door.

Mr. HUBERT. Next door, or across?

Mrs. PITTS. No; right against Mr. Ruby’s, and, Senator--and Mr. George

Senator was right at--you’re right, 207. I keep saying 205, but it was

207.

Mr. HUBERT. 207?

Mrs. PITTS. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you know whether or not Mr. Senator and Mr. Ruby were

sharing apartment 207 on November 24, or sometime before that?

Mrs. PITTS. Well, I hadn’t been there in--and seen him. I hadn’t, but

when I had went there and cleaned--started to clean his apartment where

Mr. George used to live, and he had moved out, but when--where did he

move then, I don’t know.

Mr. HUBERT. So, any Sunday you ever went to Mr. Ruby’s apartment, you

don’t know whether Mr. Senator was sharing that apartment or not?

Mrs. PITTS. No; he would come over there when he lived right there next

to him, but, see, when he moved, well, then, I hadn’t been there in a

long time, so, then, I had seven vacant apartments to do just before

this all happened, so, then I----

Mr. HUBERT. Did Mr. Ruby have a two-bedroom apartment?

Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Had you noticed before that both bedrooms had been occupied

by people, that is to say, by cleaning up, by seeing that the beds had

been slept in and so forth, you can tell when the rooms----

Mrs. PITTS. No; the bed was made. Now, the manager told me, but I

didn’t see him there. Now, the manager told me that they must--this man

Senator had moved over there, but then I didn’t see him there.

Mr. HUBERT. He didn’t pay you?

Mrs. PITTS. No, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever talk to Mr. Senator over the phone?

Mrs. PITTS. No, no. I--he called me from his apartment once and talked

to me about coming to clean for him, but he didn’t talk to me, Mr. Ruby.

Mr. HUBERT. Was it possible that the man you spoke to on November 24,

was not Mr. Ruby, but Mr. Senator?

Mrs. PITTS. It sounded like Mr. Ruby, but he just--he started talking

off all right and then he would go, you know, to talking funny to me,

and don’t sound like himself, and hollering and talking loud and that

is something he didn’t ever do.

Mr. HUBERT. You mean kind of mad at you?

Mrs. PITTS. No; it wasn’t mad, but just talking strange, you know how

a person talks strange, kind of. Don’t really understand what they are

really saying, I guess.

Mr. HUBERT. You testified, didn’t you, in Mr. Ruby’s trial?

Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Had you been interviewed prior to that by his attorney?

Mrs. PITTS. Say had I been what?

Mr. HUBERT. Interviewed prior to your testimony in the trial by his

attorney?

Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir; by his--Mr. Belli.

Mr. HUBERT. Mr. Belli? He talked to you?

Mrs. PITTS. He talked to me. He come out there and got me when I was

sitting out there waiting. They had--Mr. Burleson was the one that

talks to me over the phone and told me that I had to come down there.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he ask you whether or not his voice was strange?

Mrs. PITTS. They just told me to tell how he talked to me, so, that is

what I did. That is what he said that they wanted to know. So, that is

what I did.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember that you were interviewed by Mr. Jack

French, special agent of the FBI, around 2 or 3 days after this

shooting occurred?

Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you recall whether you told Mr. French at that time that

you thought that Mr. Ruby’s voice sounded odd the way you testified

today?

Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir; I told him that, but he told me what he was

wanting to know if I had seen any books or letters or papers around

there, and that I didn’t ever look, and----

Mr. HUBERT. But you say you told Mr. French that you thought that Mr.

Ruby’s voice was odd like you testified to today?

Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir; I told him that.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you tell him that, or was the first time that you

testified like that at the time of the Ruby trial?

Mrs. PITTS. Did I do what now?

Mr. HUBERT. I say, are you sure that you told Mr. French about Mr.

Ruby’s strange sounding voice or what----

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