Mr. HUBERT. No? Do you mean----

Mr. LANE. We have carbons. See, like on this receipt. That is a carbon

receipt. Well, you would stamp it one--or both could be stamped at the

same time.

Mr. HUBERT. But, both have to actually be put in the machine, don’t

they?

Mr. LANE. Right.

Mr. HUBERT. I notice the times on those documents are in terms of

minutes.

Mr. LANE. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. There is nothing to indicate the fractions of minutes

involved?

Mr. LANE. No.

Mr. HUBERT. Would you be willing to say that the time that these

transactions took place could not have been earlier than 11:17 a.m., of

November 24, nor later than 11:18?

Mr. LANE. Yes; I would be willing to state that.

Mr. HUBERT. But, you can’t tell whether it would be 11:17 and a half or

something of that sort?

Mr. LANE. No.

Mr. HUBERT. You do know that the clock mechanism had turned already to

11:17, but it had not yet turned to 11:18?

Mr. LANE. That’s correct.

Mr. HUBERT. After you had handed Mr. Ruby his change and the original

receipt, of which 5119 is a copy, what did he do?

Mr. LANE. He turned immediately from the counter, went through the door

and went out and turned to the left.

Mr. HUBERT. How much distance is there between the counter and the door?

Mr. LANE. Oh, approximately 8 or 10 feet.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, he went out the door that opened on Main Street?

Mr. LANE. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. And he turned to his left?

Mr. LANE. To the left as you are facing the street.

Mr. HUBERT. In what direction would he then--towards what street would

he then be going?

Mr. LANE. Toward Harwood Street.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he stay any appreciable length of time in the office

after you had handed him the change and the receipt?

Mr. LANE. No, he did not spend anytime--he went straight to the door.

Mr. HUBERT. He simply accepted the change and the receipt. Do you know

what he did with them?

Mr. LANE. I have no idea. I mean, he had them in his hand.

Mr. HUBERT. He didn’t put them in his pocket?

Mr. LANE. Not immediately.

Mr. HUBERT. You didn’t see him put them in his pocket?

Mr. LANE. No, I did not.

Mr. HUBERT. Could you observe him after he left the office and turned

to his left?

Mr. LANE. No, after he turned he would be out of sight--the shades were

drawn on that side, and I just saw him turn, and that was the last I

saw of him.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he seem to be walking fast, slow, medium?

Mr. LANE. Just ordinary gait.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, I notice on Exhibit 5118, another time, which seems to

be 1963, November 24, p.m., 12:26. What does that mean?

Mr. LANE. That is the time that the money order was put into the wire

in the upstairs office----

Mr. HUBERT. Well, explain what you do after the application is

accepted, the money received, the change given back, the receipt given

to the customer?

Mr. LANE. I put it in a tube, suction tube that takes it directly

upstairs to be transmitted.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you endorse anything on the application at that time?

Mr. LANE. I endorse nothing. I have done all that before.

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