Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you hear anybody say anything?
Mr. MONTGOMERY. There was--just fixing to say there was just kind of a
roar, you know, people hollering and everything.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Before you heard this shot, did you hear anybody say
anything?
Mr. MONTGOMERY. All these newspaper reporters were hollering, “Why did
you shoot the President?” And all that stuff.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. GRIFFIN. Back on the record. Now, what did you say happened when
you heard the shot?
Mr. MONTGOMERY. Well, Officer Graves was on Oswald’s left and I went
around Officer Graves to try to help get--and, of course, when I got
around there several officers had hold of him, and I grabbed him around
the throat, and was applying a choke hold on him, and, of course, we
drug him off to one side over on the cement there on the ramp.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What kind of struggle was he putting up?
Mr. MONTGOMERY. He was putting up a struggle--with so many officers on
him, it wasn’t too much, could have--couldn’t have been too much.
First time we put him down it was right here [indicating].
Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, don’t put an “X” there. Block that “X” off. Make a
circle, or something. You want to put a little arrow to that and say it
was Ruby?
Mr. MONTGOMERY. Right here [indicating].
Mr. GRIFFIN. Okay; now, what did you do when you got him down on the
cement at that spot?
Mr. MONTGOMERY. As soon as we got him down here we made a--I
didn’t--some of the other officers was making a search for the pistol,
and “Blackie” Harrison was standing there and we had--held him down on
the ground, and I told Ruby--not Ruby--told “Blackie” Harrison, “Better
get him inside the jail office.” At which time we all picked him up and
brought him inside the jail office.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you hear “Blackie” say anything either before or after
the shooting, or during the struggle?
Mr. MONTGOMERY. Not that I recall, no.