STATEMENT OF T. CHALKLEY HATTON, OF MILWAUKEE.

Mr. TAWNEY. You are here on the invitation of the commission, and

the invitation was extended to you because of your experience in the

matter of sewage treatment in the city of Milwaukee and also because

of the efficiency with which we are advised your plant is being

operated. Give such information to the commission as you are prepared

to give us concerning the method you have in use there, and also as

to its efficiency and operation. We will be very glad to have you

give us any opinion, based on your knowledge and experience, that you

care to.

Mr. HATTON. It may be that I can best describe this process and

the results we are getting from it by giving you the situation in

Milwaukee, which is somewhat, as I take it, comparable with some of

the situations here. We discharge the crude sewage from the city of

Milwaukee into three rivers, from whence it flows into Lake Michigan,

and 3½ miles away from the harbor entrance we take our water supply,

in a depth of 50 feet. At the present time the water supply is being

partially or entirely sterilized by the use of liquid chlorine. There

is at the present time about an average of sixty millions of sewage

per day being discharged into Lake Michigan.

Mr. TAWNEY. Sixty million gallons?

Mr. HATTON. Yes; and during this time the lake for an area of about

25 square miles has become polluted, B. coli being retained in that

entire surface of the lake; and at all times we find the presence

of B. coli at the intake of our water supply, but the treatment of

liquid chlorine has, with one exception, enabled us to sterilize the

water with about twenty-eight hundredths to thirty hundredths part of

liquid chlorine. Last February we got a little larger quantity of B.

coli than usual because of four or five days of southeastern storm,

and in spite of the fact that we put all the liquid chlorine in and

more than the water would absorb, we got a typhoid-fever epidemic in

three or four weeks of about two hundred and some odd cases. Now,

that is the situation in Milwaukee, and for the purposes----

Mr. POWELL. Before you pass on, you say 25 square miles has become

polluted?

Mr. HATTON. Yes.

Mr. POWELL. How far into the lake would the pollution extend?

Mr. HATTON. About 5 miles; 3 miles on either side of the harbor and 5

miles from the shore. The city is located on Milwaukee Bay, which is

a long crescent, about 10 miles from point to point.

Mr. POWELL. How far from the outlet of the sewer to the intake?

Mr. HATTON. Three miles and a half; and in addition to that, there is

a breakwater, which is supposed to partially prevent the water from

flowing from the harbor toward the intake.

Mr. POWELL. You pursued your investigations beyond the 5 or 6 miles?

Mr. HATTON. Yes. Prof. Whipple was employed to do that, and he did it

very thoroughly for many more miles than 25 square miles.

Mr. POWELL. Did he discover traces of it farther than that?

Mr. HATTON. Yes; even farther than that; traces of it 6 miles away to

the north of the intake, but faint traces. It was a question with

us, when the matter of sewage disposal came before us, of not only

treating the sewage so that the water could be properly treated by

filtration or chlorination subsequently, but it was also a question

of getting rid of the sludge from any sewage-disposal treatment which

we might put in, because there was no waste ground in the vicinity of

Milwaukee upon which sludge could be disposed of, and the consensus

of opinion of the citizens of Milwaukee was that the sludge should

not be deposited in the lake, no matter how far out. The feeling was

very strong. I might say, in introducing that matter, that in 1910 a

board of consulting engineers advised that disposition of the sludge,

and that feeling had been growing in the minds of the citizens for

three or four years before I went there, until it had assumed the

attitude that it would not be public policy to discharge the sludge

into the lake, no matter how far out, partially due to the large

amount of shipping which is and was expected to come into the harbors

of Milwaukee, and also from the fact that ships did take their water

supply from that lake before entering the city; so that it was a

matter of taking care of our sludge----

Mr. POWELL. Before you pass to that, how does the current compare

with the current in the other Lakes? There is less current in

Michigan Lake?

Mr. HATTON. Yes. The currents are influenced particularly by the

winds.

Mr. POWELL. There is very little setting of the water out toward the

strait?

Mr. HATTON. Very little. The general idea has been advanced, by those

who have studied the matter, that the water passes south on the west

side of the lake and to the north on the east side of the lake,

requiring approximately 10 years to make the entire circuit.

Mr. POWELL. Is there any continuous flow out of the lake, or does it

flow in, on account of evaporation?

Mr. HATTON. I think there is a flow out of the lake. I think the

record was taken some 12 or 14 years by the United States engineer at

that time, and he printed quite an elaborate report.

Mr. TAWNEY. Through the straits?

Mr. HATTON. Yes; but just what that report contains I am not familiar

enough with it to say.

Mr. POWELL. The flow is always out?

Mr. HATTON. Yes.

Mr. MAGRATH. I have an idea that the water works inward sometimes?

Mr. HATTON. Well, it comes down, as I say, on the west side, passes

round Chicago, and comes up on the east side, and passes out in the

straits; at least, that is my opinion.

Mr. MAGRATH. I may be wrong, but I had an idea that the current moved

inward sometimes, and sometimes outward.

Mr. HATTON. Well, possibly so. This is the general tendency of it,

but I think it does sometimes pass out and in, according to the

direction of the winds.

Mr. POWELL. The Chicago Drainage Canal is not equal, I suppose, to

the inflows from the surrounding country. It does not balance it?

Mr. HATTON. Well, I think not. It is claimed here very recently

that the waters taken from the Chicago Drainage Canal have lowered

the waters in the connecting streams some 5 or 6 inches. How true

that is I am not prepared to say. Now, before deciding upon the

method of sewage disposal for Milwaukee we built rather an elaborate

experimental station, in which we tried to put all those modern

methods of sewage disposal now prevalent in this country and abroad,

and I think we had 23 different processes going on there at one

time--one of the largest experimental stations carried on in this

country for sewage disposal purposes.

Mr. MIGNAULT. When was it established?

Mr. HATTON. In the middle of 1914. We have been operating it just

about two years. We tried out in that experimental station the Imhoff

tank, so-called settling tank, sprinkling filters, colloidal tanks,

electrolytic processes, chemical precipitation, chlorination, and

finally, what we called the activated sludge process, which we have

been trying out now for a year this month.

Mr. MAGRATH. Where did that process originate?

Mr. HATTON. Well, that is a question. Mr. H. W. Clarke, of the

Lawrence experimental station of Massachusetts, claims he discovered

it. Dr. Gilbert J. Fowler, of Manchester, England, now of India,

has assumed the discovery of it and developed it in a laboratory

way perhaps further than anybody else up to the time we took care

of it in Milwaukee. He started his experiments in 1914, or late in

1913, and we started our experiments in 1914, late in 1914. But it

has been developed in Milwaukee to a greater extent than anywhere

else, either in Europe or United States. We started with a laboratory

investigation. From thence we went to tanks, holding or treating

70,000 gallons a day each, and from thence we have gone to tanks

treating 1,600,000 gallons a day, which are now being operated and

have been operated since last January. The process, stated briefly,

consists of, first, coarse screening the sewage, running it through

coarse screens, then into tanks of any depth to suit the conditions

and the situation, say from 10 to 20 feet.

Mr. POWELL. That is the residue after the first screening?

Mr. HATTON. That is the raw sewage after it has been coarse screened.

Then the raw sewage is run into these tanks, which have in the

bottom some method of diffusing air which is discharged into the

bottom of the tank at low pressure, just sufficient pressure to

keep the liquor agitated; while in there this liquor passes through

this tank, taking a certain time in accordance with the standard of

purification required, from two hours to four hours, during which

time it is being agitated and aerated by the air. From these tanks it

passes into a sedimentation tank. All of these tanks are practically

one tank divided by a wall separating the aerating tanks from the

sedimentation tank. After settling in the sedimentation tank from 45

minutes to an hour, or an hour and a half, according to the character

of the effluent you require, it then passes out into the point of

final discharge. The sludge which settles out of the liquor into

the sedimentation tank is then pumped back and discharged into the

raw sewage as it enters, or while passing into the beginning of the

aerating tank. The surplus sludge which settles in the sedimentation

tanks is treated otherwise, which I will describe later. The process

is one of aeration and nitrification practically. The sewage does

absorb a great deal of oxygen from the air which is forced into it

through these diffusing methods. The sludge, however, which we return

and keep intimately mixed with the sewage at all times is perhaps

the chief medium of purification, because that sludge is filled

with microorganisms and nitrifying organisms, which really do the

purification work, and that is the reason that it is called activated

sludge, because it is so filled with the nitrifying organisms, and

the more active the sludge is the more rapid and higher degrees of

purification you secure. It is a natural process entirely, simply

intensified by artificial means. To show you the activity of that

sludge, we got the raw sewage, perhaps a million bacteria per cubic

centimeter, in the first aerating tank, within half an hour; the

sludge contains anywhere from fifteen to twenty million bacteria per

cubic centimeter. In this sludge we give the bacteria the natural

environments for their work. We give them food, lodging, and air,

and that is just exactly what aerobic bacteria need, and the desire

is to have intensified the aerobic bacteria, which we have at all

times when the plant is being properly operated. Now, that is a brief

description of it.

Mr. POWELL. That is the only purpose of aeration?

Mr. HATTON. No; there is another purpose of aeration, and that is

the intimate mixture of the sludge with the liquor. That can be

done mechanically with a little bit of air put in; but to do it

mechanically would increase undoubtedly the cost and the operating

expenses. In order to clarify the liquor it is not only necessary

to nitrify it, but it is necessary, as we call it, to scrub it, and

we remove the colloidal matter by means largely of scrubbing. To

describe that in a layman’s way, not in a chemical way, the colloidal

matter in sewage rests in the interstices between the globules

of water, like water rests in the interstices of the sand at the

seashore. Now, if you disturb that sand on the seashore, the water

runs out and the sand becomes free of it. If you scrub the globules

of water together violently, the colloidal matter is detached from

the water and the water becomes clear. That is as near a layman’s

description as I can give you, and we have tried the experiment out

in our experimental station, to see whether there is any odor in that

sewage, and we have thought that there is to a certain extent, not

altogether. Now, the question as to how to dispose of this sludge

is one of the greatest problems in sewage disposal in the world;

and I think if any of you went over to Toronto, which I had the

pleasure of visiting three weeks ago, you would see the difficulty

that Toronto is up against in getting rid of its sludge, as are all

other cities in the United States, whether it be Detroit or Buffalo,

Cincinnati, Philadelphia, or New York--well, I will not say New York

and Philadelphia, because they are out at the ocean, and they have a

chance to get rid of it, but inland cities will have this difficulty.

Mr. POWELL. They are taking it up in New York.

Mr. HATTON. Yes; they may be able to discharge the sludge in the

sea, but inland cities on the Great Lakes or rivers are going to

be up against the proposition as to how to get rid of the sludge.

Then any method of sewage disposal which will enable the cities to

get rid of the sludge, whether it be at a profit, or whether it be

to break even, or whether it be at a loss, and yet to get rid of it

to the advantage of the agricultural element of this country and

indirectly to ourselves, will be that system of sewage disposal which

will undoubtedly meet the conditions of the large cities. That is

the proposition which is primarily confronting us in Milwaukee, as I

started out to say, and in all of this investigation there has been

no doubt evinced in the last three months by the leading consulting

sanitary engineers in the United States who have visited our plant

that the purification of the sewage has been solved within reasonable

cost, but there has been a great deal of doubt in their minds that

the disposition of the sludge has been solved, and I have told them

that within 90 days----

Mr. MAGRATH. Did you say that there was a feeling that the problem

had not been solved?

Mr. HATTON. They felt that the question of the disposal of the sludge

had not been solved, although we had solved the question of the

disposal of the sewage.

Mr. POWELL. They all recognized that the purification of the sewage

could be accomplished?

Mr. HATTON. They all recognized that the purification of the sewage

could be accomplished in that method at a reasonable cost. But now

we have solved practically the question as to the disposal of the

sludge. It is true we have not reached those definite figures of cost

which are necessary to convince the average municipal officer, but

we are proceeding very rapidly, and we have our own figures which

we feel are perfectly safe. In March for 10 days we dewatered this

sludge by compressing. Now, for two weeks we have dewatered the

sludge, and are drying the sludge, and reducing it into the form of a

fertilizer of low grade, which is marketable anywhere in Chicago, and

marketable along the eastern coast, through the chemical company--I

forget the name of the chemical company there, but it is the largest

fertilizing company in that district. They have offered us a yearly

contract for all the sludge of the character that we have submitted

to them that we could produce, based on the market value of the

ammoniacal nitrogen contained in the sludge, the potash, and the

available phosphoric acid. We have been testing this sludge day by

day for two weeks, and we have averaged from that sludge 5 per cent

of ammoniacal nitrogen--about sixty-seven one-hundredths per cent

is available of phosphoric acid, and nine-tenths of 1 per cent of

potash. Altogether that sludge is worth in the market, based on those

ingredients alone, $15 a ton. There is no doubt about reducing it to

a fertilizer basis. We have the apparatus and are doing it.

Mr. TAWNEY. Have you ever undertaken to extract anything else from

this sludge, such as oils?

Mr. HATTON. We have, through the firm of Susenberger & Sons, of

Chicago--no, it was a branch of Susenberger & Sons, of Chicago, which

carries on the fertilizing end of the Susenberger & Sons’ business.

They extracted the fats from the sludge, and turned the residue into

fertilizer. But we do not have more than 2 or 3 per cent fats in our

sewage, and that percentage of fats is not harmful to fertilizer,

and it does not pay to take it away from the sludge. Unless you

get at least 10 or 12 per cent of fat in your sludge, it does not

pay to remove it, as I am told by those who are in the business of

manufacturing fertilizers.

Mr. TAWNEY. Do you know that there is in operation in England now

a plant where they are extracting from the sludge gasoline and

lubricating oils and pitch?

Mr. HATTON. Well, yes; I have read of it in a casual way.

Mr. TAWNEY. And nitrates, and carbolic acid; is that right, Mr.

Phelps?

Prof. PHELPS. Yes.

Mr. HATTON. I never go away without my box, and I want to show you

some samples which I have here.

Mr. POWELL. You sell this stuff for $20 a ton?

Mr. HATTON. No; $15.

Mr. POWELL. What does it cost to put it in a salable condition after

it is taken out?

Mr. HATTON. Six dollars a ton.

Mr. POWELL. You have a profit of $9 a ton?

Mr. HATTON. Approximately $9 a ton. You understand the ammoniacal

nitrogen varies, of course, and that cost is based upon the

ammoniacal nitrogen, and our average is 5 per cent so far. In

wintertime I imagine it will grow less. In July, August, and

September it will grow more. It is true we have a very strong sewage,

containing, for the last month, for instance, 369 parts of suspended

matter. That is a good deal stronger than the average municipal

sewage. It is industrial sewage, largely. Now, I do not want you to

think these samples I am showing you are picked out samples. These

are samples which a good many gentlemen present will tell you they

have seen in our plant that they have visited day by day. This was

taken yesterday at noon and delivered to me in the afternoon. This

is a bottle of the raw sewage, after passing through the half-inch

screen. I am now showing you a bottle of the sewage taken from the

aerating tanks, containing about 25 per cent of activated sludge, the

nitrifying media which purifies the sewage, and I am now showing you

the effluent passing away from the sedimentation tank 4 hours and

45 minutes after it passed into the influent tank. So far as we can

determine, there is a trace of suspended matter in that sewage. Of

course we could not determine whether it was stable or not, because

that takes time. It was taken out yesterday, but my chief chemist,

who brought the samples to me, told me there was no doubt about the

stability of that liquor.

Mr. MIGNAULT. Have you analyzed it to determine whether there

subsists a certain amount of B. coli?

Mr. HATTON. No; this was taken yesterday; but we do get some B. coli;

we do not get complete sterilization. We attempt to get 95 per cent

reduction of bacteria in our effluent. We have not had occasion yet,

except when our plant was broken down, or the lake was so high that

it backed into our plant, to reduce our standard. We could always get

95 per cent, and we more often got 98 or 99 per cent. I do not know

whether I should show you this box I have here very closely, because

it does not smell very well.

Mr. TAWNEY. You do not deodorize your sludge?

Mr. HATTON. No. I am showing you now a sample of the pressed sludge.

Mr. TAWNEY. The reason I ask that is that I saw a sample of pressed

sludge recently, treated by the process I mention in operation in

England, where there was absolutely no odor to it at all.

Mr. HATTON. There is no odor in this sludge until it has been out in

the air 24 hours. Then it begins to get very odorous. That is the

pressed sludge ready for the dryer. When that came out there was

no odor except an earthy odor. I am showing you now a sample of the

dried sludge ready for the fertilizer.

Mr. TAWNEY. That is in ground form?

Mr. HATTON. No; that is not ground. That is just as it comes out

of the dryer. Some of it would have to be ground no doubt; we are

expecting to grind it.

Mr. MIGNAULT. The dried sludge has no smell?

Mr. HATTON. The dried sludge has no smell. There it is; it has been

on my desk for a good long while. We obtain about half a ton of this

dried sludge per 1,000,000 gallons of sewage treatment. It means that

we would get about $7.50 per 1,000,000 gallons out of our sludge, and

spend from $3 to $4 getting it out of the sewage, making a profit of

from $3 to $4.

Mr. POWELL. The process of sedimentation in that bottle has just

taken three minutes and a half.

Mr. HATTON. That is where we were deceived in designing our

sedimentation tanks. As a matter of fact, there is a lot of finely

suspended matter, and it is that finely suspended matter which takes

the time to settle. But I want to draw your attention to the absence

of colloidal matter, and I want to say also that, outside of broad

land irrigation, or slow sand filtration, I think I am justified in

saying there is not any other method of sewage disposal process which

will so effectually take the colloidal matter out of sewage, and

make the sewage at least satisfactory, ethically, to all the cities

and municipalities. I am quite sure if you can discharge an effluent

of that kind in any of the rivers and waters between Canada and the

United States that no citizen of Canada or no citizen of America

can possibly object. He goes largely by what he sees, not by the

ingredients which some chemist tells him are in the water.

Mr. TAWNEY. Have you any of the by-products you extract from the

sludge?

Mr. HATTON. We do not attempt to extract any by-products. We propose

to sell the sludge as a fertilizer in the shape I have shown to

you in this box. I might say that there is no other process of

sewage disposal at present in common use in America favorable to

this locality comparable with this process, except Imhoff tank and

sprinkling filters, followed by final sedimentation.

Mr. TAWNEY. What is this process called?

Mr. HATTON. Activated sludge. We tried out the Imhoff tank process

with chlorination in this same sewage, and found the cost a little

bit less than the cost of this process, without finally disposing of

the sludge. We also tried out Imhoff tank, followed by sprinkling

filters, and found the cost much more than this process. We also

found, in our climate of Milwaukee, that, instead of averaging two

and a half million gallons, or getting two and a half million gallons

per acre per day through sprinkling filters in wintertime, there were

three months that we could not get more than a million and a half.

We also found that up to the present date we have not been able to

dry sludge in the open air coming from the Imhoff tank from the first

of last November up to the present day, and in making our estimates,

we do not believe we could get three months in the whole year in

this climate--I am speaking of Milwaukee--when we could dry sludge

effectually from the Imhoff tank or any other sedimentation process.

We have too much rain in June to dry sludge, and the only way we

could possibly dry Imhoff tank sludge was by covering with glass,

heating the place, as suggested by a gentleman in Cleveland, Ohio.

Mr. MIGNAULT. How long does the drying process last?

Mr. HATTON. Well, that is all according to the weather. If the

weather is very nice and warm, and we have the sun, and not too damp,

it will dry out in about two weeks; it will dry into a spadable

condition in five to six days in good dry weather, but if there is

a little bit of rain comes along overnight, or if it is alongside a

lake, and there is considerable moisture or damp, it may take two or

three days longer.

Mr. POWELL. How do you dry the sludge?

Mr. HATTON. In a drier, an industrial drier, just the same as they

use in the packing houses in Chicago and many of the breweries and

many other places throughout the United States in industrial works.

Mr. MIGNAULT. Does it require much space?

Mr. HATTON. No; the amount of land which we have laid out to treat

a hundred million gallons a day, which is the quantity we will have

to treat, is 20 acres; that is, including our pumping stations,

our ministration houses, sludge-disposal houses, and everything

concerned. In fact, to be distinct, this system can treat from ten to

twelve million gallons of sewage per acre per day.

Mr. TAWNEY. What does it cost?

Mr. HATTON. The cost of the treatment?

Mr. TAWNEY. The installation?

Mr. HATTON. About the same as the Imhoff tank. I say that because

we worked out the Imhoff tank layout, and also our activated sludge

layout, upon the same ground, and it broke even as to cost.

Mr. MIGNAULT. When you say you make a profit on the sludge, in the

disposal of it, what cost do you consider?

Mr. HATTON. I did not catch that.

Mr. MIGNAULT. When you say you make a profit out of the disposal of

the sludge, what cost do you consider? The cost of the drying----

Mr. HATTON. The cost of the drying, the cost of the dewatering,

the cost of the freight and the overhead charges of the machinery

necessary to dewater and to dry, and the attendance cost--all those

have to be taken into consideration.

Mr. POWELL. You take the raw sewage that comes from the tank?

Mr. HATTON. We take the raw sewage as it comes from the sedimentation

tank containing 97 per cent of water and deal with that.

Mr. POWELL. That all enters into cost?

Mr. HATTON. Yes.

Prof. PHELPS. That is $6?

Mr. HATTON. Yes.

Prof. PHELPS. Would you tell us the cost of the aeration in preparing

the sludge?

Mr. POWELL. That would be taken into account as against some other

system.

Mr. HATTON. I think I have that. I will read to you from a copy of

the Second Annual Report of the Sewage Commission of the City of

Milwaukee of 1915:

The cost of the activated sludge, continuous flow, with a

removal of 95.5 per cent bacteria--

I say that because the cost of the operation and the plant depends

entirely upon the character of effluents you want to secure. A lower

grade of effluents lowers the first cost and operating cost, so this

is based on a removal of 95.5 per cent, which is our standard----

The disposal of sludge in cost per million gallons, $3.

The interest and depreciation on the cost of the plant,

based at 7½ per cent, $2.81. Cost of operation, exclusive

of sludge, $2, making a total cost of $7.81 per million

gallons treated.

From this $7.81 must be taken the value of the recoverable sludge,

which, as I stated to you, so far in our investigations has been $3

per million gallons, or making a total net cost of $4.81 per million

gallons, which includes overhead charges.

Mr. TAWNEY. What was the cost of your Milwaukee plant?

Mr. HATTON. Well, we have a 1,600,000-gallon plant now. The aggregate

cost of our total plant is estimated to be about two and a half

million dollars--will be that much.

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