"This talking has made me thirsty, Socrates, and I am going to seek for

truth in the wine, where the proverb says it may be found. I shall talk

no more."

"Well, then, I shall ask my question of Euripides, if you will allow

me."

"Ask, by all means!" said Philip; "but if your questions are to be about

knowledge and virtue I shall go and sit with the flute-girls, and we

shall talk of something that we can understand."

Socrates settled himself more comfortably upon the couch, and, taking up

one of the ribbons which Lysis had brought, turned it about his fingers.

"Protagoras is going to tell us whether we can have any knowledge of the

gods or not," he said; "but let us enquire into their nature, assuming

that we know them, for the present. Shall we examine your own conception

of God, Euripides? It will clear matters up if we are able to say what

the gods whom we seek to know are like."

"Very well, Socrates," said Euripides.

"You live at the centre of things, Euripides," said Socrates; "and every

aspect of our modern thought is clearly reflected in your work. This is

one reason why I have always been an admirer of your plays; but it has

its drawbacks, for sometimes you reflect two distinct and opposed

theories, so that your meaning is not quite clear. Your treatment of the

myths is, in reality, a criticism of the myths, is it not?"

"Yes."

"The dramatist takes a myth as his material, and by working upon it,

criticising it, rejecting some features, and developing others, he will

make it into a play, and not only does he deal with the myth itself in

this way, but he also examines and criticises each character in it,

using the same method, so that his play is not only a representation of

the myths but a criticism of them as well. Now I have lately been

reading your Hippolytus again, so that we shall take that as an example.

The myth is very simple: Aphrodite wishes to be avenged upon Hippolytus,

who neglects her worship in preference for the worship of Artemis; and

in order to compass the death of the young man she stirs up an unholy

passion in Phædra. Hippolytus refuses the love of Phædra, and, in

despair, she kills herself, leaving a writing behind which accuses

Hippolytus of having forced her. Theseus, discovering this writing,

calls down upon Hippolytus one of the three curses which Poseidon has

promised him to fulfil, and Hippolytus is slain. Then Artemis reveals

the truth to Theseus, and before Hippolytus dies Theseus is forgiven by

him.

"This story is full of improbable and supernatural conditions, the

jealousy of Aphrodite, the apparition of Artemis, and the intervention

of Poseidon. We no longer imagine the gods as beings with the same

passions as men; but the passions and strife of the gods are the

essential feature of some myths. Do you think, Euripides, that the

makers of myths in the old days simply dragged in the gods, in order to

explain any tragedy which was quite inexplicable in itself, and that

they attempted to alleviate in this way the sense of waste with which a

tragedy fills us?"

"It seems a plausible supposition, Socrates. If men cannot relate an

event to any known cause, they consider it sufficiently explained if it

be attributed to a deity."

"And so it happens," said Socrates, "that many evil deeds are attributed

to the gods; the death of Hippolytus, for instance, to the jealousy of

Aphrodite. Do you think, Euripides, that the makers of myths and the

common people believe that evil is not inherent in the action itself,

but depends upon the quality and nature of the agent?"

"Yes," answered Euripides; "they imagine that actions are permissible in

gods which would not be permissible in man; that the gods have a right

to do evil, since they have the power. On the contrary, I maintain, that

a god is all goodness, and that if he revenged himself on man, or were

guilty of jealousy and hatred, he would cease, by that fact, to be a

god."

"And is it because you hold this opinion that you make the action in

your play of Hippolytus, as far as possible, move independently of the

gods?"

"How do you mean, Socrates?"

"I mean, Euripides, that your play seems to present two sides: the

action as it is presented in the original myth, and the action which is

the result of your criticism. There are some people who say that if you

are not content with the myths, you should invent your own stories; but

this would defeat your object which is purely critical, and which aims

at presenting another version of the story. You seem to say to yourself:

the myth presents the gods as beings with the same appetites, passions,

and desires as mortals, and so I shall treat them. They are to you mere

characters in the play, and even subordinate characters at that. You

introduce Aphrodite to speak the prologue, and thus, ostensibly

following the myth, make her responsible for the catastrophe. But at the

same time you show that the catastrophe is directly precipitated by the

hastiness of Theseus; a fatal flaw which he himself recognises, and

laments when it is too late. He was over-hasty to use the gift of

Poseidon, he says; but Hippolytus answers that if he had not used that

method of revenge, he would have found another. Theseus implicitly

agrees to this, when he says that some lying spirit had blinded him to

the truth, and thus the guilt is flung back upon Aphrodite, whom Artemis

promises to punish by slaying Adonis. In reality, Euripides, the lying

spirit is not Aphrodite, but Phædra; and you take care that Artemis

should point this out. Thus, at every part of the myth where the action

of the divinities is supposed to be clearly visible, you present us with

another version and another cause; and, by this means, not only do you

make the development of the plot more plausible, and fill us with

admiration for your genius, but ultimately you remove the responsibility

from the gods, by showing that the action of the play is not dependent

upon them. Aphrodite seems to be only the incarnation of Phædra's

desire, and Poseidon of a father's curse. Artemis, it is true, has a

separate existence, and is not merely the personification of a mortal

passion; she exists in order that she may reveal the truth to Theseus,

and for that purpose, had you not been bound by tradition, the nurse

would have done as well. You say, too, in one of the choruses that the

thought of the gods consoles your grief, and that your hope clings to

the belief in a supreme reason; but that when you consider the deeds and

the fate of men you are confounded. Do you think, Euripides, that the

whole evil of life comes from man alone, and that the gods are not

implicated in it?"

Protagoras smiled. Euripides leaned forward, looking at Socrates with

bright eyes from beneath his bent brows.

"The words of the chorus, Socrates, mean that when I consider the

wretchedness and the doom of men, I doubt the existence of a supreme

reason, or at least waver in my belief."

"Of course I see that," answered Socrates; "but if you accept the idea

of a universal mind animating all things, why should the misery and

wretched conditions of the life of men dissipate this idea? Your play

shows that it is man's own folly, and not the anger of the gods, that

punishes him with misfortune. Theseus in ignorance calls down the doom

of death upon Hippolytus, and thus brings evil upon himself. It is the

lust of Phædra, and the blind anger of Theseus, which are responsible

for the death of the innocent; but is it better to have suffered

unjustly as Hippolytus suffered, or to die in shame, despised, as Phædra

died, or to live as Theseus lived in misery, though forgiven?"

"I agree to what you have said of my play," answered Euripides, his

worn, melancholy face illuminated with a smile; "and I agree, also, that

it was my purpose to deny that the gods do evil, and to make people

dissatisfied with the myths. I misunderstood the reason for your use of

what the chorus says about the Supreme Mind; the doings of men seem to

me to be more the result of the conditions of life than of their own

wickedness. If men err it is through ignorance; but they suffer quite

independently of their deserts. It is through my sympathy with mankind

that I am led into doubt. Man struggles all his life with the

fluctuations and vicissitudes of fortune; his pleasures are but phantoms

and visions which elude his grasp; the one certainty before him is

death: an unknown terror. Why has he been set among this play of

circumstance, over which he has no control, but which whirls him away

like a dead leaf upon the ripples and eddies of a river? The best

happiness we can find in life is resignation, a folding of the hands, a

withdrawal into the interior peace of our own minds, the serene heights

which the Muses inhabit. Those who have gained that sanctuary have at

least the happiness which comes from a knowledge of the limitations of

life; they have learned to desire little, to delight in natural and

simple things, the bright air, the coolness of forests, wind rippling

the waves of corn and setting the poplar leaves a-tremble; but, alas!

behind even this serenity of mind is the shadow of human suffering. So

few are the wise, and so many the miserable! We would not, if we could,

cut ourselves off from the dumb herd of humanity, with its obscure

sufferings, its vague desires, its inarticulate and eternal pain."

"I should not ask it of you, Euripides," said Socrates gently.

He had a real love for Euripides, a real admiration for the mind which

through its own tumult and discord had come at last into the possession

of peace, and to the vision of a clear hope.

"If mankind with its blind follies makes me doubt the existence of a

God," continued Euripides, "its miseries make me believe in one. I am

not an enemy of knowledge; I have sought it with diligence all the days

of my life; but we have other needs. We suffer with one another; there

is a trouble and perplexity in the world from which we cannot escape,

and to which we cannot refuse sympathy, pity, and love. Religion does

not take into sufficient account the fact, that however diverse are the

activities of men, all suffer alike. We have the corporate religious

unity of the State, and it presents to us the noble and lofty ideas of

the Olympian deities. Do you remember, Socrates, the fable which

Protagoras made for you, describing how at first men had only the arts,

and warred among themselves until Zeus sent them the gifts of justice

and reverence?"

"Yes; I remember it. I cannot, of course, remember all that Protagoras

said," answered Socrates. "Long speeches puzzle me. But I remember that

it was beautiful."

"It was at my house," said Callias, with some pride.

"Well, Socrates, it seems to me that justice and reverence were not

enough. Man needed something more. So the worship of Demeter and

Dionysos was revealed to him. I have sometimes meditated writing a play

about Dionysos, the enthusiasm of wine, of poetry, the Deliverer, who

uplifts the heart of man; or about Demeter, the Earth, the herbage and

the ripe corn, through whom we are kin, not only with each other but

with the beasts of the field, the cattle grazing in their fat pasture,

and the young fawn couched among the briars and thickets of the forest.

These divinities seem closer to us than the ruler of the sun or the lord

of the sea. They move gently among us, coming and going with the

seasons, filling our granaries and wine-jars with their mystical gifts;

corn and wine, their very bodies and blood, through which we enter into

a close and intimate communion with them, and become indeed their

children, or even themselves, as when their spirit possesses us

entirely, and with a wild enthusiasm we range through the wooded hills,

clothed in spotted fawn-skins, crowned with dark ivy, shaking the

thyrsus in the air, and leaping to the sound of timbrels and pipes, and

the brazen cymbals of the Great Mother.

"The Olympian divinities have given to man the knowledge of the arts,

and instilled into him the principles of justice and of reverence; they

are untouched by the sense of our human mortality.

"Of old, the poets say, they visited mortals; and coming to a house at

dusk in the guise of huntsmen or travellers would rest that night to

share the evening meal, and at dawn depart again, leaving behind them

strange gifts. Now they come among us no more. But these divinities of

our own delightful earth, how different they are! Our mortality, our

labours, and our desires are part of their ritual. They have shown man

that he is one with that earth from which he derives his being, and

which receives him again, after the toils and vicissitudes of life, as

with the gentle enfolding arms of a mother; and that through it he is

one also with them. They give him, in the recurrence of seed-time and

harvest, the symbolism of the vine and the vintage, the return of

Spring, coming with frail, delicate flowers, and troops of swallows, in

the first flush of green over the ploughlands, hints and foreshadowings

of some such resurrection for himself; until death ceases to be a

nameless terror to him, but is like a little interval of sleep not

entirely barren of dreams. How natural they are too!

"We should not be surprised if we met with Demeter, clad in blue

raiment, in a cornfield, as the dawn was breaking. It would not seem

strange to see her, plucking the golden ears, and weaving them into a

garland for her head; or resting beside a well of bright water, and

looking over the misty fields with quiet, thoughtful eyes. It would not

seem strange if Dionysos appeared suddenly to us, coming through the

shadowy woods between the straight stems of the pines, light in his

eyes, and the wind lifting the hair from his cool brow; or to meet him

leading his troop of delirious worshippers by the banks of Asopus, or up

the steep glens of Cithæron. If she, Earth, be a mother to us, he is

like an elder brother, born of a mortal woman, and so closer to us. It

is true, Socrates, that the myths dealing with him contain much that is

revolting, and are full of tragic and sinister episodes; but behind the

veil of man's weaving is a figure of singular beauty, wild but gentle; a

divinity who promises to the restless and troubled spirit of man joy in

life and peace after death."

His words made an impression upon the company. There was silence for the

moment.

"Well, Euripides, I shall not question you any further to-night," said

Socrates. "We have agreed that the idea of divinity is exclusive of all

evil; and now Protagoras will probably tell us that the philosophic

question of the present time is not whether the gods are good or evil,

but whether they exist at all."

Protagoras made no further delay. He had a roll of parchment in his

hand, but scarcely referred to it. There was a movement among the guests

as he began, for all were curious to hear what he had to say.

* * * * *

"We cannot know whether the gods exist or do not exist; the matter is

too obscure, and man's life too short. If they exist, it must be in some

manner peculiar to themselves, for we cannot find any trace of their

presence in the world. They are not present to us as objects to be

perceived by the senses; if they move among us at all it is by stealth,

and without leaving so much trace as a ship leaves upon the waves. But

man has always believed that they are close to him, and has come to

imagine them as haunting every green corner of the earth, each well, and

wood, and hill, the blue depths of the sea and the wide regions of the

air. We have a God to preside at our sowing and at our harvest, at our

setting-forth and at our home-coming; there are gods of flocks and

herds, of vineyards and olive groves, of rivers and of the sea. Poetry

has peopled the air with them, and given to Aphrodite a team of

sparrows, and to Hera a team of peacocks, and to grey-eyed Athene an

owl. Indeed, it is strange, so familiar and frequent are they in our

thoughts, that we should ever question their existence; yet the moment

we seek for any tangible evidence of their presence in the world we are

at fault, and the more we consider them the more shadowy and elusive

they become. The whole notion of divinity is constantly changing in our

minds, adapting itself to new conditions of life, varying its form as

our knowledge becomes deeper; but always becoming more spiritual, less

tangible, until it seems to be nothing but that wandering breath which

quickens all things into life.

"At first we imagined the gods as the incarnation of some natural force,

like Aphrodite, the foam-born, whom all living creatures obey; or

Demeter, the Earth-mother, who produces all the fruits and harvests, and

the grass and flowers of the field. Stripped of the mystery and beauty

with which the poets have clothed them, these are but the conditions of

man's life, his begetting and sustenance; we must seek behind them for

that idea of the supreme reason, who is not only the cause but the end

of all things, not only the source of existence but the principle from

which spring our notions of truth, of wisdom, of justice, and all those

ideals which reconcile us to life and bid us hope in the ultimate

realisation of the good. It is not sufficient for us to find a cause

from which existence is derived, for even if that were laid bare to us

we could not find in it our ultimate satisfaction, unless it conformed

to the idea of divinity, which, as Socrates and Euripides have agreed,

is exclusive of all elements of evil. Is it possible to have this

knowledge? There are two insuperable difficulties.

"The first is in the nature of man's knowledge, which is not constant or

common, but variable and peculiar to each individual. Each man is the

measure of all things. To him, things are what they seem; truth, what he

thinks true; justice, what he thinks just; good, what he thinks good.

Coldness or heat, light or darkness, colour, sound, smell, touch, taste,

are all equally matters of opinion. There is no truth external to the

individual. The second difficulty is that even if all men had a fixed

and common standard of truth, we can find no evidence of the action of

any divinity in the world, no evidence of a supreme reason dominating

all things. The world seems to obey certain blind and unreasonable laws;

but the life of man, the life of all things, outside the mere routine of

tides and seasons, seems to be subject only to chance: and whether we

live or die, our fate is the result of an accident. We are merely the

idle foam upon the surface of the waves of being; an accident, and not

the reason of the waves. Perhaps the whole reason of life is unconcerned

with us; having a different aim to what we imagine, we ourselves being

only the dust of a sculptor's workshop, the superfluous marble which he

chips off from the hidden image of his desire.

"It is certain, that if there be a God he is careless of the fate of

man. For, if there were a God, since he must be just and good, we should

find the prayers of the good man answered, and evil would be punished in

the world. As it is the evil men prosper, and the good gain no reward;

evil and good, what are they but our points of view? It is for this

reason that we doubt the existence of any but a mechanical cause for the

universe; because we have had no experience of good triumphing in the

external world. Diagoras of Melos, being taken into the Temple of

Poseidon and shown the offerings dedicated there as memorials of

answered prayers and in fulfilment of vows, looked at them with tears:

'They reckon those who were saved,' he said; 'they forget those who

perished.' Yes; one is more touched by the thought of what was not hung

in the temple, than by the sight of what was. We think of the smallness

of the temple, and of the largeness of the sea.

"Let us state our position with clearness. We are not concerned with the

existence of the gods, but with our knowledge of their existence. It

would be equally foolish in us to deny, as to affirm, their existence.

There may be a supreme reason acting upon the world, whose ends we

cannot understand, whose action we cannot comprehend. It may be that the

world exists for some other purpose than for the realisation of our own

dreams. Perhaps we are only the superfluities, the parings of ivory, the

winnowed husks from the threshing, by-products in the creation of

something more perfect; and perhaps the confused and obscure sense of an

ideal, which works in us and is at once our desire and our despair, is a

dim consciousness of the growth of this beauty, a desire and a despair

of being one with it. But, if we could escape for a moment from the

tyranny of our own selves, the illusion of our own momentary existence,

we might learn to rejoice in the knowledge, that beauty exists, if not

in us, at least somewhere in the world. If that knowledge were ever

present with us, I think that we might be content. Content even to

suffer, to realise that everything that ever lived has died for an idea,

that all life is a martyrdom; but, alas! we have not even this

knowledge. Our life is a dream of shadows. Our knowledge is but a focus

of wandering ideas, burning a moment in a white heat, ere they pass

again, diffused widely, into the unknown.

"The sense of divinity, which moves in us, may be but a hope born of

this trouble and perplexity, a desire that at some future time the

fragments of our being shall be collected again and fashioned into a

whole. We cry out that we need not be wasted, to drift forever as dust,

blind, dumb, and inarticulate, yet with a dim consciousness of a life

stirring beyond us and alien to us. Let us share in it. Let us have a

share in the world's sunlight and the sweet air. We have personified

this hope, and given it an extended significance which seems to breathe

and move in all things. Each individual finds his justification in God;

and it follows that his God must be merciful, just, and good; but, at

the same time, the notions of justice and good are entirely peculiar to

the individual. God is thus a realisation of self, a self who triumphs

and will be justified, even through his misery. The very practice of

virtue is an accusation against the gods, an affirmation that if the

good perish then God is evil.

"I am a maker of myths, one who fashions out of perishable things a

thought which, through its informing truth, exists independently of

time. I think of man as of one who is blind, dumb, and without hands.

Sitting alone in this physical darkness a thought comes to him of what

his life might have been if he had been born whole; and he imagines

himself as a man with hands, a voice, and sight, creating a whole world

out of his pleasure. This other man, who moves like a creature of light

through the dim passages of his mind, becomes, as it were another self;

but through his greater power, a being of joy living eternally, a

strong, triumphant, beautiful figure; and consequently external from,

and different to, the man. And the blind, dumb, handless man, bowing his

head in the darkness, says: 'It is God.'

"For the gods which we have imagined are immortal men, and man a mortal

God. They differ from us in nothing but the gladness and eternity of

their actions. They move delightfully on the wings of the wind; through

the great tumult of waters their feet are swift and sure; their voices

have a music that is like the fierce motion of dancing, yellow flames.

God is simply our own selves, made whole, and removed from the devouring

years. God is our weakness searching after strength, our blindness,

thirsting after light; our desire seeking for a voice, and we worship

him. We worship him because he is ourselves; but we seek him, always, as

if conscious of our own weakness and worthlessness, beyond ourselves, in

the external world, Our God is hidden in the deeps of the sea; in the

shadows of the forests; in that blue heaven beyond the stars. He is very

subtile, moving on stealthy feet, through unknown ways. We seek him, but

we find him not. He is swifter than we are, and when we pursue him he

flies away into the darkness; and when we cry out that we have lost him

he comes close to us again, filling our hearts with a silent sweetness.

So it is ever with us; when we seek to clasp him he eludes us; but in

the silence of night we imagine that he is not very far away and that a

little thing would suffice to allure him to us, to reveal him to sight.

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