Mr. DEAN. All right.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you hear, between the time that you saw Ruby move
toward Oswald and the time that you reached him, did you hear anything
said?
Mr. DEAN. No, sir.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, what did you do when you reached Ruby?
Mr. DEAN. Well, I ran to assist, whatever I could do, or assist the
officers, not knowing exactly what had happened--or I knew that there
had been a shooting. However, they had enough men that were subduing
him, and I asked the question, when they had him on the floor inside
the jail office, "Who in the world is it?" And----
Mr. GRIFFIN. Couldn't you tell by looking at him?
Mr. DEAN. No; at the time I couldn't see him because there were so
many over him. And they were--well, his face was hidden from me by the
amount of officers that were around him. I said, "Who in the world is
it?" And evidently I was talking loud over all the other voices, and
evidently Ruby heard me and said, "I am Jack Ruby. You all know me."
Mr. GRIFFIN. And how long did you remain with Jack Ruby there in the
jail office?
Mr. DEAN. I immediately walked around to where Oswald was laying.
Mr. GRIFFIN. And how long did you remain there where Oswald was?
Mr. DEAN. Oh, maybe--less than a minute. I saw that the doctor--there
was an emergency doctor working on him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did you go from there?
Mr. DEAN. I went back out to the basement, out to where the shooting
happened.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do out there?
Mr. DEAN. I was trying to keep all the people in. I heard Captain
Talbert say, "Don't let anyone out." And I was echoing his instructions
to the men on the ramp, to not let anyone in or out, no one.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did there come a time while you were down there in
the basement that you were interviewed by TV men?
Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir; that was after I had--just some few minutes, I
don't know, that several newsmen had--or did interview me, yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember which TV station that was?
Mr. DEAN. Tom Pettit is with NBC, I believe. I did know one of the
local men, Bob Huffaker. He is with KRLD-TV. But there were several. I
don't know----
Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, there was also a time, undoubtedly, that
you were interviewed, or somebody quoted you in the newspapers, and
there was a great to-do about this, as I understand, in the police
department. Somebody claimed----
Mr. DEAN. Misquoted me, yes, sir.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, was that at this particular TV interview; was that
when you made the statement?
Mr. DEAN. The newspaper article that appeared, the news or the writer
of that story told me that he wrote that story from my initial
interview that was given shortly after the shooting, yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, do you recall talking with that man down there?