Mr. HUBERT. Is that what you had in mind?
Mr. CLARDY. That and the FBI agent, Mr. Hall, then came up and talked
to Ruby off and on until the time that he was taken to Captain Fritz'
office.
Mr. HUBERT. How long a period was that?
Mr. CLARDY. Sir, he was up there probably within 15 to 20 minutes after
we had taken Mr. Ruby upstairs. Agent Hall was, and he talked to Mr.
Ruby at considerable length until he had several telephone calls. I
don't know who they were from or what they was about, but, that he was
called to the telephone several times while he was up there.
Mr. HUBERT. And Mr. Sorrels was present also?
Mr. CLARDY. Mr. Sorrels had left before Mr. Hall come up there. Sorrels
had talked briefly to Mr. Ruby. I say, "briefly," he--approximately 10
minutes.
Mr. HUBERT. Let's see if I can get the time sequence. Within 15 minutes
after Ruby was brought to the top--to the fifth floor, Mr. Hall came?
Mr. CLARDY. Uh-huh.
Mr. HUBERT. And interviewed him, with some interruptions by telephone
calls, for approximately what, now, an hour and a half?
Mr. CLARDY. I'd say Mr. Hall was up there 3-1/2 hours.
Mr. HUBERT. Three and a half hours.
Mr. CLARDY. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, in the 15 minutes or so before Mr. Hall came, Mr.
Sorrels came?
Mr. CLARDY. Mr. Sorrels came.
Mr. HUBERT. And stayed about 10 minutes?
Mr. CLARDY. Mr. Sorrels came up just very briefly. Very shortly after.
Mr. HUBERT. Is that what you meant when you mentioned a little while
ago that there was some omissions from your statement?
Mr. CLARDY. That is what I had reference to; yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you have reference to any other omissions?
Mr. CLARDY. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Then, let's put it this way. You have already stated
that what is in these records, these three exhibits, 5061, 5062, and
5063, are true and correct; that you did not want to modify or change
anything that you had previously said. That it was some omissions, and
now, do I understand you to say that the omissions that you previously
spoke of is what you just testified to?
Mr. CLARDY. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Are there any other omissions that you know of?
Mr. CLARDY. None that I know of.
Mr. HUBERT. So, that by taking Exhibits 5061, 5062, and 5063, together
with your deposition today, is it fair to state that there is on record
everything you know about the assassination of Oswald?
Mr. CLARDY. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, other than the interview that you had with me earlier
today, have you been interviewed by any member of the Commission staff?
Mr. CLARDY. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, the interview you had with me was prior to lunch, is
that correct?
Mr. CLARDY. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Can you state now whether there are any inconsistencies
between your deposition and what we discussed at the interview to which
I have just referred?
Mr. CLARDY. Nothing other than the--you were referring to those
previous statements?
Mr. HUBERT. No; I am referring to any inconsistencies between what you
testified today and the interview we had this morning?
Mr. CLARDY. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, have you provided, or had--or did you provide in that
interview this morning any material as to which you have not testified
to in this deposition?
Mr. CLARDY. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Is there anything else at all that you would like to state
that has not been said in one way or another by you?
Mr. CLARDY. Sir, the only thing that I could add in any way, that I can
think of, would be that the--Mr. Ruby appeared to be normal on that day.
Mr. HUBERT. Then do you think you knew him well enough to be able to
judge whether he was normal or not?
Mr. CLARDY. From his expressions or the way he talked led me to believe
that the man was normal, that he knew what he was doing.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, other than that observation then?
Mr. CLARDY. It wouldn't be anything that I could think of that I would
add.
Mr. HUBERT. All right; if you do think of anything, I want to ask
you to please feel free to come forward and state it, because quite
frankly, a person will forget something, and if you do remember
anything, don't hesitate to come forward with it, even though you might
say to yourself, "Well, I have already said there is nothing more, and
now I am coming back to add something." I ask you not to feel that
way, but on the other hand, to feel free to come forward, because the
Commission wants to know all the facts, and we want to get the facts,
even though you may not recollect them until after this deposition is
over. I trust you will do that?
Mr. CLARDY. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. All right, then, thank you very much. I want to thank you
personally and on behalf of the Commission for your assistance. Thank
you, sir.