Mr. ARCHER. You want me to read----

Mr. HUBERT. Yes; read both of them.

Mr. ARCHER. All right. All right, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, you have read the exhibits we have marked 5092 and

5093. Now, I will ask you if those statements contain the truth as you

knew it?

Mr. ARCHER. Yes, sir; with one correction here in this statement that

is headed by "Federal Bureau of Investigation".

Mr. HUBERT. I think you will find that that is Exhibit 5093.

Mr. ARCHER. 5093, yes, sir. It is not correct when it states that I

remained with Ruby until approximately 3 p.m. I believe that that was

3:30 p.m., as stated in my report. As I recall, when I was interviewed

by the gentleman, I did say 3:30. Now, like I say, it could be my

error, could be theirs, but----

Mr. HUBERT. Were there any omissions from, of fact from those

statements?

Mr. ARCHER. Any what, sir?

Mr. HUBERT. Any omissions of fact.

Mr. ARCHER. Well, I didn't go into every detail. There are several

statements that I didn't include in this report, and of some of the

conversation that took place in the jail and during the time that I was

with Ruby, and then some of the statements that were made downstairs.

By this, I mean when this investigation was made. I didn't have in

mind of any testimony being involved, that it was--more or less an

investigation as to how Ruby got into the basement, and what the

security breakdown was. That my--that was my impression.

Mr. HUBERT. I think you are relating to the fact that both of those

statements omit any statement as to what Ruby told you concerning his

intent to kill?

Mr. ARCHER. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, I wish to afford you an opportunity to state why that

fact, or those facts were omitted from the statements?

Mr. ARCHER. Well, at the time, I just didn't consider them pertinent to

the investigation that was in progress, and I just didn't recall them

as important information at the time. And as I explained, it was in my

mind that it was an inquiry, more or less, as to where I was and what I

was doing, and of an inquiry as to whether there was any negligent on

my part in regards to this security breakdown.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you think that the inclusion in these two statements of

his phrase "Son-of-a-bitch," was more important than his statement of

his intent?

Mr. ARCHER. Sir, at the time, it is like I say, whenever I gave the

statements I had in mind as to what I saw at the time of the shooting,

and that did take place at the time of the shooting, and I didn't go

into great detail as to what took place after we took him into custody,

took him upstairs and searched him and all. In other words, I had

in mind that if anyone wanted to know about it, well, they would be

afforded a chance for me to relate that.

Mr. HUBERT. When, in fact, did they find out that you had this

knowledge?

Mr. ARCHER. I don't recall the exact time or day.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you file another report than those we have here?

Mr. ARCHER. I have another report that is the part mental interview

which was taken, as I recall, from the date, on November 30th, which

was a continuing inquiry as to how Ruby got into the basement of the

city hall. I believe that it was taken by Lieutenant McCaghren and

Lieutenant C. C. Wallace.

Mr. HUBERT. In that statement you did not mention what Ruby told you

concerning his intent either, did you?

Mr. ARCHER. No, sir; I did not at that time.

Mr. HUBERT. When did you first convey that information to anyone at all?

Mr. ARCHER. To Mr. Alexander with the district attorney's office, when

he made a court inquiry at the city hall.

Mr. HUBERT. When was that?

Mr. ARCHER. I don't remember the date, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Well, how long after the shooting?

Mr. ARCHER. I just couldn't say.

Mr. HUBERT. Well, was it before Christmas, for example, or after?

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